how may of you keep making the same shitty thread over and over?

I have strong political views and I have great fun reading/expanding my knowledge and discussing politics with people. The problem is most people cannot be fucked and see it all as shit which for the most part (99%) it is, there are occasionally a politician who is pretty inspiring and truthful though.

I'm agnostic with atheist tendencies (ie, more willing to side with the position of god not existing). politically, I have no idea where I stand. in general I just withhold my opinion on things I believe I'm not sufficiently informed about. this creates an upside of not being an idiot who shouts opinions that are uninformed, but also makes me a very boring person.

I guess that my ideologies are close to cynicism, and one of my greatest inspirations has always been (since I was at least 14) Diogenes of Sinope. I'm rather skeptical about religion and mostly about anything (see "Munchhausen Trilemma"). I'm actually a carefree and easygoing fella. :)

>How many of you don't have any religious or political views?

Unless you were born feral on an island, you'll have views one way or the other.

I'm an atheist with mostly classical liberal views issues.

>If not, how do you react whenever these subjects get brought up?

I react depending on the person or group I'm speaking with. Most people I know have similar views to me, so it's like preaching to the choir sometimes, when having a discussion with them.
The few times I've clashed with an individual at school, I explained my position, why I thought that way, and why I thought the person I was talking with maybe wrong.
I'm not an "I am an atheist, debate me" fag, by any means. I loathe people like that. Throughout my school experience, I mostly kept to myself even when my jimmes got really rustled.

>For the hell of it, what is your philosophy and why do you think that way?

If I had to define my overall life in the present term with a philosophy, it would be probably be hedonism. I really just care about pleasuring myself above any other concerns. I'd like to evolve into a stoic as I gain more wisdom and maturity though. I am this way because this the way my environment and my personal experiences have shaped me. I would probably be a completely different person If I were born in say, China.

>atheist
>believe that government officials are just puppets

As for the upcoming election, I'm not voting because, even without my belief, I don't like any of them and don't think any of them would be good for the country (I'm being a typical amerifat and assuming everyone else is amerifat).

As for people talking about them, I just keep out of the conversation. If they ask me specifically, I'll tell them that I'm an atheist or that I don't believe politics is actually what we see it as. You can't change anyone's opinion on those subjects by arguing. They're too stubborn.

WHAT THE FUCK IT ISN'T POSSIBLE TO NOT HAVE RELIGIOUS OR POLITICAL VIEWS IT JUST DOESN'T HAPPEN FUCK YOU

>>2073155

how is it not possible? That's like saying it isn't possible for someone to have not eaten a slice of pizza.

i use to care about politics until i moved to canada.

athiest, blah blah blah

>>2077519

Canadian politics aren't as serious if you actually live here.

none so to speak other than keeping up with the government when it aries.

liberal, christian, etc

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I believe in mild ammounts of fascisim, support nationalisim and racial realisim.

I usually don't talk about politics even if the subject gets brought up, since it could fuck me over. I will wait until I finish my graduate degree.

I am nihilist, I don't usually talk about it because people say "that shit's depressing, yo". Even among hippy morons there's a belief in an afterlife. I don't want to say something that'd maybe make somebody stop believing in an afterlife.

As for politics, I think right wingers are dumb but liberals are just the biggest douchebags.

i don't care about anything.
I live everday, just to make it through.
These subjects never come up.
I am extremely ignorant but I don't care.
I'm not sad, just greatly misinformed.
I am blind, and sometimes ashamed that I don't really hold a political stance, but in the end, I don't do anything about it.

As for religion, I just don't care either...I don't really believe there is a god...yet, I don't know how this world came to be, and why we're here. I guess some people have the need to fill themselves with something that will give them meaning and whatnot.

I'm an atheist but won't bring it up unless someone asks. Politically and philosophically, I'm pretty nihilistic. In college I discovered my current hero, Max Stirner. Generally I'll vote for libertarian-leaning candidates, even if they have no chance of winning. But I hate discussing politics with people IRL because everyone is so emotionally invested in the topic.

Conservative constitutionalist, if it doesn't obey the constitution, it's a step closer to tyranny.

>>2069388
I tell people I have no religious or political views.

I just don't care about anything outside of my room.

mermp for political banter etc.

Neither. Believe in who you want to believe, so long as you shut the fuck up and be happy when you die. As for politics, the political world is a mess.

Moderate as fuck and agnostic. i don't like affiliating with a party, so I just register Independent. There is no argument out there that can prove to me God exists, but there isn't one to prove he doesn't either. I don't understand why people feel a need to affiliate themselves with a political party/religion besides simply not wanting to think for themselves.

That whole thing came off pretty angsty.. I'm much more chill about this stuff than i probably sound

I have them, but I no longer have any emotional investment in them. I vote locally when it comes up, and that's pretty much the extent of my "activism." I am also willing to discuss the subjects with people who seem to genuinely be interested in an exchange of ideas and are similar to me, in that they aren't so gung ho about it to start turning red and begin screaming. I can honestly say that I don't hate anybody for their religious or political beliefs, I just want people to get along to some degree.

As for the beliefs I hold. I consider myself a Deist, I'm not really into the theories or whatever, but the definition of Deism is closest to my thoughts on the subject. Politically I flip flop a fuck-ton, I can't get comfortable. But I would say I'm some where along a libertarian and a fascist. Sometimes I believe a free market and individualism is the cure to our problems: if people take a pride in themselves and work for themselves we won't bother killing each other since we're too content in ourselves. On the other hand this hyper individualism I see today is sometimes disgusting, and might be the root of all our problems. And then I begin to consider fascism, but I am not totally sure it would need to be racial, though I don't rule it out.

I don't have any religious or political views and I have no philosophy. I even have a hard time forming an opinion on art above "it kept me interested".

I just can't bring myself to care about any of this stuff and I find it really strange that people get really worked up about things you can't prove one way or the other or that don't effect them at all or why you need to explain the world in some way.

When people bring up these topics I just agree with whatever they say since people get pissed when I say I don't care, more so than if I said the polar opposite of their belief, then they'd just have a lively debate with me and not imply I'm an airhead retard.

Well I'm not an amerifat so pretty much no one says stuff like "thank god for this and that" You would get laughed at. I'm not really an atheist just dont believe in god

I have very strong opinions about everything. But I'm not an asshole, so I let people state their points and then try to move the conversation to a subject that doesn't make my ears bleed.

>>2088393
Thing is "Thank God" has become so common that pretty much everyone uses it regardless of their religious belief. So, in America at least, hearing someone say "Thank God" definitely does not mean that they are in any way religious.

>If not, how do you react whenever these subjects get brought up?

If it's religion, I say "Who gives a shit? Stop arguing about it, it's not going to change"

If it's politics I just make fun of Julia Gillard and Kevin Rudd the whole time.

>>2088277

this best describes me very well.

i don't talk about it, i have nothing to discuss.

I used to have strong views but couldn't care less now. Politics are like philosophy-lite, a way to barely skim the surface of ideals while still remaining indecisive and ignorant.

>>2070891

>withhold my opinion on things I believe I'm not sufficiently informed about

This. This is how you're supposed to to do it.

>Relgious views
Atheist

>Political Views
Leftist/Socialist

>>2069388
>>2101169
>>2070891

much respect

congratulations for being perfectly reasonable

views:

Political: dont give a shit, all the cunts are the same, voting wont change shit, but Id like to be in charge of the world.

Religious: I do not believe in a christian God, I believe in master robots (like in the matrix)

don't give a fuckiest.

that's amazing that i'm not alone on this one.

There is too much war-waging, idiocy, secrecy and lies required and too little interest for me to start getting involved in politics, in this short span of life I have left, at the end of which is the only place in time I can learn if any of all these secretive, idiotic and war-waging religions contain truth.

i.e. I can't be bothered.

mermp for more non political guys.

couldn't give less of a shit, stuff like that should only be discussed with people you trust/know well enough to where you can agree to disagree without it turning into some "i know more than you" conversation. I am not friends with people who would bring either subject up out in public

>Political:
I think I'm always right, and whatever I say should be carried on and done without any question or second thought, and whoever does that is wrong.
>Religion:
I don't care.

If it's brought up, I lie or dodge the political one, and express the religion one.

Politically I have some opinions, I just don't care about them.
Arguing about politics isn't going to change anyone's opinions. They're set in stone.
Bringing up politics is just asking for trouble, it's a taboo subject normally.
1 vote is literally nothing when it comes to making a difference. I will never turn on the news and see "Romney wins the presidential race by one single vote!" Why should I bother voting.
No one actually knows what's going on. They just read shit on reddit or huffington post or their community college poli sci class.

Just tell them I don't give a fuck about either. If they continue it just gets awkward and I will try to get them to stop.

I never saw the point in having a specific mode of thinking. If you're not affecting others in a negative way, or infringing upon their freedom, then (in the cases I can think of at this hour) you're fine in my book.

When people bring up religion, I just smile and nod. It's so much easier than telling them what I really think.

politics for me are a living hell to get into. Same goes for religion.

left athiest reportan in.

never had a reason to care about politics that much.

>>2106820

this perfectly sums me up.

I am nihilist, I don't usually talk about it because people say "that shit's depressing, yo". Even among hippy morons there's a belief in an afterlife. I don't want to say something that'd maybe make somebody stop believing in an afterlife and such.

>Political views
Don't be a dick

>Religious views
Don't worry about it

I don't care about politics. For me it's like a weather, can't do anything about it. But i laugh a little at people who think "single vote matters". No. it doesn't. What matters is how much money politics can push into campaigns and groups will react to it.

Nihilism master race reporting

People never accept it, and question me incessantly when I bring it up. As such, I don't.

i use to until i just stopped giving a shit.

i don't know about any of them actually.

I believe in mild ammounts of fascisim, support nationalisim and racial realisim. but that's it.

support no one, don't care for religion.

nillism over here with a hint of hatred.

I have a reasonable knowledge of the UK political system but I'm incredibly apathetic about it. Before the last general election I, like most other students, bought into the whole liberal democrats bullshit.

Since then I've realised that no matter who gets in to power things are just going to get worse for everyone, pointless laws will continue to be made and held up. They're not going to stop starting wars with every arabic country they can vaguely justify.

Now I just don't participate in discussions about it, or if I do I state my pessimistic/realist views and then refrain.

Generally people respect my position and don't dig further than that, I think it's because deep down most people know that I'm right - the people in charge don't actually care about the general populace, they only pretend to do so so they can make a lot of money and secure their own security.

In regards to religion I'm an atheist but I don't have a problem with religious people, if anything I envy them for being able to believe in something that's so obviously false.

>philosophy
NAP, leave-me-alone-ism / leave-you-alone-ism

>politics
1. it rustles my jimmies
2. not going to bang my head against the wall in politics because dissolving authoritarian culture is what actually needs to happen.

I'm a card-carrying member of a trotskyist party

I'm an egoist. I have no views other than that I need to act in my own self-interest in the most effective way.

I have a farily good knowledge of the most popular political and religious ideologies, so I pretend to agree with people to gain rapport and use them for my own goals.

I'm not exceptionally good at it, but it will come with practice.

>>2070870
You beat me to it. Damn.


My philosophy is a mixture of many with a large helping of misanthropy and a dash of nihilism. I'm pretty well read in philosophy and I take parts of many different philosophy. Chances are if I talked to my friends about philosophy they'd get a migraine. No I'm not being arrogant. They're really that stupid.

Religion, I usually just tell them I'm not big on the whole god thing which is funny considering my fiancee is moderately catholic. I just can't believe in something I've seen no proof of. I have a real problem being told how I should act and think. Threat of divine punishment shouldn't drive somebody to think and act well. The definition of right and wrong changes in different circumstances. One can never say this is always right and this is always wrong in every single case. That's what religion tries to do.

Politics has become diluted since it left it's roots in ancient times and lets be honest your opinion is never really considered. You are given two or more options and you vote for the one you partially agree with. In reality you have no say unless you vote with the majority. If you aren't the majority your vote is practically invalid. I'm apolitical and politics for me is pointless.

I tend to tell people I have no opinion to shut them up and so I don't have to get into it with them. Politics and Religion turn good people into shit, friends into enemies and ruin a decent conversation.

>>2133903
Fuck grammar to!

none so to speak, oh well.

derp i don't have any

no none, none at all.

that's me, in a nutshell really....i don't see the point in views.