>Freshman year he got into a 'goth' phase and didn't talk to that many people anymore.

There's the problem. Maybe he brought it on himself.

>>1576837

>This is what normals actually believe

>my girlfriend dumped me for someone else
>better go shoot him

Sounds like bullying was justified for someone who was obviously a faggot in the tenth degree

He's the one that only got one person right? Didn't even come close to the high score.

>>1576837
hurr durr, nevermind the fact the kid was bullied

>>1576845
No, as of today he got two, one went brain dead

>>1576837
You know what, I'll put it like this, maybe the kids he shot brought it on themselves.

I actually like that version of it much better.

Everyone gets teased, it's a fact of life.
But this is what happened when no children have discipline.

Normalfags defending the bullies and blaming the victim.

Somehow Im not surprised in the slightest.

>Prayers
>2012

I just never understand why these kids always pick random targets. At least take out the people who you really despise/bullied you.

Also, it seems girls always get spared, when they're mostly the biggest cause of this shit.

>>1576866
But they'll be the first ones to white knight for some bitch who cried rape. Telling you that "you're blaming the victim"

>>1576851
Yes, he no doubt suffered. But being bullied, including my own experiences, is no excuse to make other people suffer. Who hasn't suffered or isn't suffering? Who is he to think that he has suffered more than any one else?

>>1576872

>>Also, it seems girls always get spared, when they're mostly the biggest cause of this shit.

Nope.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89cole_Polytechnique_massacre

Then:
>Get bullied.
>Dad tells you to man the fuck up.
>Man the fuck up.
>Beat the shit out of the bullies.
>Problem solved.

Now:
>Get bullied.
>Told to "turn the other cheek" and ignore it.
>Ignoring it just makes them bully you harder.
>Let negative feelings broil under the surface for years.
>Shoot up the place, then kill yourself like a massive faggot.

I blame feminism.

>>1576872

You're assuming they didn't all tease him. You know that people tend to get into a mob-mentality about this shit.

> See a bunch of guys, seniors/juniors, pick on a freshman because he's roughly a foot shorter than average and thin.
> Won't let him off the ground.
> I was in a "superhero" phase.
> Tackle the first guy I see as hard as I can.
> Everyone pissed, but because I started as big a scene as I can, everybody pussies out to fight with me because "teachers coming."
> Nobody bothers kid anymore.

It usually take ONE FUCKING PERSON to stop this shit. But, silence is consent, is it not? HIs targets probably wasn't random at all.

>>1576872
Yeah that gets me too. I liked (or at least didn't dislike) the vast majority of my class. It was just a select few who made my life hell. It really makes no sense to shoot at people who have done you no harm. (Not that shooting at people period is very rational anyway)

>>1576891
>my face when
Muteblox

>>1576886

How about, because he was getting the shit-end of the stick from everyone else?

Also, apply your logic to the bullies. Why are they making him suffer, again?

>>1576891
Dude, no one cares about shitty shootings in Canada. We're talking about American shootings here.

Everyone just ignored me.

Granted I was a 6'6" strong fat, maybe they thought I would snap and hurt them.

I don't know how to feel about this.

>>1576922

>Granted I was a 6'6" strong fat

They were probably afraid you would sit on them.

But seriously, if you're tall nobody is going to fuck with you.

>>1576917

You mean the shootings with consistent low scores?

>>1576902
I blame single mothers and the dumb fuck retarded law system that encourages them.

>>1576933
well if those explosives had gone off in Columbine, it would have been a whole different story

>>1576948

> I blame single mothers and the dumb fuck retarded law system that encourages them.

That does sound like feminism, though, doesn't it?

Everybody needs to re-read Lord of the Flies--it's what kids are actually like.

In real life, you have something to lose by getting in a fight. You could be sent to jail, lose your job, get knifed/shot, etc. As a kid in school, the worst you're looking at is a free day off. I should know--I racked up three weeks worth of suspensions and an expulsion before I graduated.

Kids are fucking animals because there aren't any goddamn consequences. If bullying was treated like what it is--assault and harassment--then this shit may or may not happen. As it is, the pattern is just going to repeat itself over and over again.

>>1576948

But Lane's [the shooter] family life had been disrupted by divorce and violence, WEWS reported. His parents divorced in 2002, and his father later served time in jail on assault and other charges, according to the station.

>>1576961
>this is what evolutionists actually believe
>mfw
mootblox

>>1576961
>Kids will be kids

is how 99% of society would respond to your statement. But I agree.

I am the 1%

what kind of consequences do you guys propose for bullies?

You guys do realize that if the bully gets in trouble, they're just going to take it out even more on the victim.

>>1576982

Mandatory death penalty.

>>1576907
congrates you probably stopped a shooting.

>>1576982
I'm quite happy to let the school shootings go on. In fact, there should be even more school shootings.

>>1576982

So, it's okay to be a bully because they're going to bully MORE?

WTF is wrong with you?

Any pics of the shooter?

Maybe even from his goth phase?

>>1576972
No, this is an act of god, we brought this on ourselves.
>this is what religious fags believe
>mfw

>>1576982
Easiest solution, tell the parents.
If the bully still acts up, expulsion.
Let the kid be an example to everyone else who bullies.

Problem with all these stories is that the parents (on either side doesn't matter) never know ANYTHING until someone's dead.

>>1576961

If my kids are bullied, I fully intend to have the kids responsible pulled out of school and arrested on assault and battery charges.

Failing that, I'll go and burn their houses down one night while they're asleep.

>>1576982

Same consequences for assualt in real life. Start off with fines, move on to jail (juvie) time for repeat offenders. Nothing scares a motherfucker straight like reality.

>>1576982
How about HIM getting ostracized by everyone else? Bullies have the tacit approval of the other kids, since they do nothing to help the victim/take the bully's side.

Remember that scene on Full Metal Jacket where the sarge catches Gomer Pyle eating a jelly donut and everyone suffers for it?. Yeah, that should be done whenever a bully attacks someone.

>>1576999
>this is an act of god
>we brought this on ourselves.

I don't even
0/10

>>1577001

They do know. People don't suddenly "turn goth" without a fucking cause.

> Also, they should get to know their children/students, you think?

> Not aimed at you, aimed at bully apologists.

>>1576995
When did I say it was okay? I was merely pointing out a fact of the situation.

I don't think bullying is okay at all. I legitimately wanted to know what people would have in mind for a solution.

Actually, bullies should just be forced to go to shitty inner city schools where they will be bullied for being white, get shitty educations, not go to college and be forced to live with their parents for the rest of their lives.

>>1577016
Problem with fines is they are underage and the parents will be responsible for the fine, not the bully.

However, I think taking your idea and putting a twist to it, they should have to do community service at a minimum wage rate until the fine is paid off. Or, if they do have a job, the wages garnished.

>>1577013
what if your kid is an annoying faggot that bugs the shit out of everyone?

>>1577019
>>we brought this on ourselves.
an act of god as punishment to us, because of our sins, hence we brought this in ourselves. Is the sarcasm explained enough?

DUH

>>1577021
see
>>1576965

I have a strong suspicion that's exactly why he turned goth.

>>1577027
And create more criminals and thugs. How about no?

>>1577017
Then do you remember what happened to him, when he kept fucking up?

>>1577043

Theres a difference between socialization of children, a process by which kids learn what is and is not socially acceptable and learn to only do socially acceptable things, and bullying which is targeted assault, harassment, and psychological torture.

>>1577051

No, I think the random beatings for being white in an all black school would really teach some little white fuckup a valuable lesson in what is not acceptable behavior. Maybe just send them there for a semester.

>>1577021
>They do know.
I don't know the story but if what people saying here is true regarding the dad in prison etc, no one would have cared or noticed whether this kid turned goth or not.

>People don't suddenly "turn goth" without a fucking cause.
Agree. Problem is people just think it's a 'phase' kids go through. They never go beyond that.

> Also, they should get to know their children/students, you think?
Yes. Parents don't know their children anymore. Parents 'think' they know their children but this is almost impossible when kids these days spend more time outside of the house and online then they do with their parents.

I could have done drugs in highschool, anything. My parents wouldn't have had the slightest clue because they're rarely ever home. I don't blame them because the bills need to be paid but where do you draw the line between work and raising your children. What's more important?

> Not aimed at you, aimed at bully apologists.
Yep

>>1577079

And for black/mexican bullies...

The zoo, monkey exhibit.

>>1577048
>blame god
>"oh wait we're responsible hurr durr"
have you even read the bible?

>hence we brought this in ourselves
>hence we brought this in ourselves
>hence we brought this in ourselves

not trolling me fagit

Look i don't care what happen to the kid. Divorce, bullied, or what ever. There is no excuse to kill somebody else.

Yeah sure, bullying is shitty and ideally wouldn't happen, but all of you who think he was justified in going on a shooting spree are trolling, right?

>>1577131
I can only speak for myself here, no, I'm not trolling.

The point is, these people need to wake up and realize the "victims" of the shootings weren't really the victims at all. The shooter was the victim. If people would stop turning blind eyes to the bullying and to the cruel treatment that a lot of girls give to guys like this shooter, this stuff wouldn't happen.

As you can see from a lot of people in this thread, the typical bullshit knee jerk reaction is to blame the shooter. Of course, obviously, he IS to blame, but so are all the other kids who pushed him to this point.

As other people have also said, it's sad that a lot of these kids will target random people, but in a lot of ways, everyone is responsible, like it or not. (However, I will argue that in a big enough school a lot of people won't even know who someone else is and wouldn't know/be part of the bullying)

>>1577131

Nope. The only people who have sympathy for dead bullies are probably bullies themselves.

>>1577131
He wasn't justified, but these things don't happen 'just because'. It's a terrible tragedy.

>>1577157
We blame the shooter because 1. He's the one shooting people 2. In this case he didn't attempt to stop the bullies. He didn't tell his parents or tell any authority type.

>>1577157
Just because the killer was himself a victim of bullying doesn't mean his victims weren't really victims.

>>1577160
I was bullied myself, but you need to see the bigger picture here and realise that there are worse things than being bullied, and being killed is one of them.

>>1577013

my head got bashed into a locker in school resulting in a concussion and a trip to the hospital. My mother called the police, guess what happened?

Nothing and I fucking heard about it for the rest of the year.

LOL U CALL PULEESE LOL

Skip step one and just go burn the worthless children.

>>1576821

That kid is such a massive faggot.

>When will the normals learn, actions have consequences?

You are as well

>>1577225
I feel bad that people are unsympathetic to your problem, but the last thing you should do is going around killing people.

>>1577013

>your kid gets bullied
>kill them

What fucking world do you live in?

>>1577225

A better tactic would have been to threaten the school with a lawsuit for failing to provide a safe learning environment.

Administrators will almost always blow cases like this off, UNTIL they risk losing money in court for negligence.

>>1577013

>Failing that, I'll go and burn their houses down one night while they're asleep.

>Someone bullies your son.
>Kill them and their entire family.

Sounds like a completely rational and totally-not batshit insane train of thought, anon!

Bullying happens in every country, yet 95% of the cases in which the "victims" shoot up a school are from USA. You're one fucked up nation

>>1577225

The world is overpopulated and many people are simply worthless. To others and to themselves.

like me

>>1577013
If I can't get them charged with assault/battery (because they're too young), I'd sue the parents to kingdom come if they don't take measures to stop their little shit.

Also, I'd sign up my kid in some martial arts course so he can learn how to properly defend himself, do some exercise, and learn to focus.

>>1577202
As a teenager it is the worse thing you can go through.

>>1577269
Once again, I think being killed by a classmate is probably worse.

>>1577269

No, it's fucking not. You're really sheltered if you believe that

>>1577263
>North America
>Overpopulated

How old are you, 12?

>>1577261
> yet 95% of the cases in which the "victims" shoot up a school are from USA

Make guns as widely available in other countries, watch how school shootings rise.

>>1577269
Who gives a fuck what teenagers think? They're routinely wrong at anything and your post is just another example for this.

>>1577269

>As a teenager it is the worse thing you can go through.

I can think of plenty of worse things for a teenager to experience than getting bullied at school.

>>1577269

Holy shit, no it's fucking not.

How about starving to death under a bridge because your alcoholic father beat you and threw you out of the house?

Or, you know, being shot by some kid in school.

>>1577280
I assume the worse was my random emotions due to puberty.

>>1577286
That's not true at all.
The worst school shootings in Europe (which were way worse than this, btw) happened in Germany, not in countries with gun laws as lax as the Czech Republic or Switzerland.
There's always a legal way to get guns, what matters is if there's a little faggot willing to seize this opportunity.
With enough determination, you wouldn't even need guns, you could also poison the food in the cafeteria or build a bomb or whatever.

There's very little correlation between gun laws and violent crime anyway.

Besides that, I don't think isolated freak incidents like this are a reason to deny everybody the best means of self defense available.

>>1577269
Either you're underage or you never grew up. Reported.

>>1577131

Of course it's it's not justified, but it's not too hard to have sympathy for the shooter, and sympathy for the victims is limited because anyone of them could potentially have stopped this from happening

>>1577437
i find it hard to sympathize with the shooter. Shooting up a school is pretty much cowardly. There are plenty of thing he could of done to stop the bulling, but he didn't.

I'm not feeling much sympathy for the killer here. If he was that goddamn crazy to kill some people, he could have minimized the casualties and just killed himself. If he had gotten bullied and killed himself, I'd sympathize with him. By killing others, he has not only lost my sympathy, but I think he should be tried as an adult and given life in prison. Shit like this is not goddamn okay.

Also to you people saying it wasn't his fault, one kid getting bullied and not bucking the fuck up and being a normal human does not give him the right to murder five people, not only taking their lives but fucking up their family, their friends, his own family, his own friends (if he had any). This child has fucked up many people's lives and he deserves no sympathy, and to pay for his crime.

>>1577437
Yeah, they could have prevented it by not bullying him, and he could have prevented it by not shooting them. Besides, I'm not even sure if all the victims participated in the bullying. It's a tragedy all around, but some people are very eager to absolve the shooter of blame. I think they lack perspective and are too hung up on their own experiences with bullying.

>>1577487
>no punishment for bullies
>full punishment for the guy who felt he had no other way out of his own personal hell

Normalfags, this is why the original /r9k/ hates you. Now get the fuck out and go fuck your girlfriend or play MW2 or whatever it is that you fucks do with your spare time.

Just found out that a kid is now braindead. This could put the death toll up to 2.

>>no punishment for bullies

Yes because being shot isn't punishment enough. Also lets be fair. No one really knows why he did it. We say he was being bullied because people think is the reason. For all we know he could just be some complete psycho.

It's probably because of leftist values. No initiative in one's self, and so on.

>>1577526
2 (probably unrelated) people die and because of that the people who caused this situation in the first place shouldn't get punished? Normalfags gonna normalfag...

>>1576821
This is retarded how everyone on 4chan is making this out like it's "proof" that "bullying" (which doesn't even exist) turns people into murderers and that they shouldn't be held accountable for their actions.

The truth is that the only thing this proves is that the mentally ill shouldn't be allowed to wonder the streets freely. It proves that if this kid hadn't been left alone and if people had taken his literally insane behavior seriously then he'd have been locked up long ago and this shooting never would have happened. This proves that nerds/freaks/weirdos/shut-ins/foreveralones/neckbeards/basement-dwellers are dangerous people and that we SHOULDN'T leave them alone. What we SHOULD do is be cautious and suspicious around them so that we can spot their neurotic, dangerous, violent behaviours in time to stop them before they kill people. This incident proves that freaks should be beat down and cast out of society or locked up or if necessary executed. They are a threat to normal, decent, law abiding people and they need to be exterminated.

>>1577511
You're making this out to be black and white. Of course bullies should be punished. But not by shooting them. No matter how the kid felt, I don't think it can justify shooting people. Also, someone doesn't have to be a normalfag just because he disagrees with you.

>>1577544

I love how normality has become some sort of ill-conceived insult these days. As if not being a complete shut-in with questionable morals and very little understanding of how the world works is preferable to being a functional human being.

>>1577552
>What we SHOULD do is be cautious and suspicious around them so that we can spot their neurotic, dangerous, violent behaviours in time to stop them before they kill people.

Cause-consequence. This is exactly what happened in USA, causing everyone to view introverts with suspicion and instantly either put them on medication or send them away to re-education camps. Tell me, Amerifats, did that make anything better for you guys, huh?

>>1577544
it's almost like you didn't even read the news.

>>1577552
Thread instantly derailed. Greatest porst in /r9k/ history.

>>1577544
>the people who caused this situation in the first place
You can't blame the entire thing on the fucking bullies. I don't know much about this kid. How was his home situation? Maybe we should blame his dad. How was his mental health? Maybe we should blame his psychiatrist. What was his favourite video game? Maybe we should blame that.
Or maybe we should blame the person who pulled the trigger, first and foremost.

>>1577554

>As if *being

And it's not as if anyone knows whether this kid was actually being bullied, or even who really "deserved" to get shot in your twisted world view anyway. The kids who DID get shot were likely completely unrelated to the shooter's maladjustment.

>>1577559
>This is exactly what happened in USA
>send them away to re-education camps

Uhh... You do realize that the US doesn't have "re-education camps", right?

>>1577511
Yeah, cause bullying is pretty goddamn normal child behavior. Yeah, that's wrong, and if I saw the bullying taking place I'd tell them to stop, but everyone's gonna get bullied. Some people for longer than others. And those are the people who need to change. Bullying is a way of weeding out unacceptable behavior in kids, like peer pressure.

When I was a kid I was bullied, sure. Quite a bit, actually, cause I was a bit socially awkward and Jewish in a very French Catholic town. But then when I was sick and fucking tired of the bullying, I told them to knock it the fuck off. I stopped going to speech therapy in school and went to one outside of it. I started hanging out with people outside school, and soon I actually had goddamn friends. And yeah, even then I was goddamn bullied. But i never thought, "Wow people are being so mean >_>. I should fucking murder them." Because I'm not a fucking psycho.

So no, the bullies shouldn't be punished. It's normal kid behavior, and I mean shit, they know that they had a part in this, i think that's punishment enough. They'll be fucked up for life because of this. What isn't normal kid behavior, hell, normal human behavior, is mass murder, and this kid should have manned the fuck up or just lived with it.

Also I don't play MW2 with my girlfriend, we prefer TF2.

>>1577552
>>1577559
What this proves is that the mentally ill need to be taken off the streets and thrown in mental health institutions where they won't be a threat to themselves or (more importantly) to other people. If people took mental illness more seriously and better understood its warning signs then things like this would stop happening.

>>1577559

>This is exactly what happened in USA, causing everyone to view introverts with suspicion and instantly either put them on medication or send them away to re-education camps.

Are you retarded, or just grossly misinformed?

I'm not going to say it's never happened, but it's not nearly as common as you seem to be implying.

>>1577554
And I love how normalfags consider it perfectly fine to make another person's life a living hell, giving them no way to fight back (zero-tolerancy bullying policy, successful litigation being more related to money than justice) and then act surprised when the response actually fits the years of torment suffered.

What is even more funny how normalfags try to suppress knowledge about bullying - all films related to bullying are if not outright censored, then tried to at least made unviewable for school children through various legal and not-so-legal means. Happened with http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0988108/ and the same happened with Bully(2012) [MPAA rating shenanigans] too.

>>1577597
THIS. The only thing this tragedy proves is that we need greater mental health awareness in society.

>>1577611
If people are making your "life" a "living hell" then it's because there's something wrong with YOU.

>>1577511
>Normalfags, this is why the original /r9k/ hates you

No, you hate us because we remind you that you fully deserve your treatment.
The appropriate response to being bullied is to man the fuck up and learn to stand your ground, which means being able to counter verbal insults and to kick someone's ass if they want to beat you up, not to shoot them. Not being a fucking creep would help, too.

Not to mention that shool shooters just kill random people.
If this was about "escaping your personal hell" (what a joke), they'd seek out their bullies first, but they are too much of a pussy to do that.
Grow the fuck up, you insecure manchild. Fapping to someone else going through with your impotent rage and violence fantasies doesn't help you, it just shows that people treat you badly because you are an insufferable, emotionally stunted freak who fully deserves what he gets.

>>1577611
>And I love how normalfags consider it perfectly fine to make another person's life a living hell, giving them no way to fight back
You can tell your,parents,teacher,police,anybody.Also the film your claim is being suppress is actually coming out in movie theathers

>religion
>getting bullied
>facebook poems
>implying not being an introverted fuck makes you normal

>>1577611
>the response actually fits the years of torment suffered
You need to put things into perspective. A school shooting isn't an appropriate response to anything.

>>1577630
If "you" need to make "other" people feel "bad" to make you"r"self feel"bet"ter, there is "something" "wrong" "with" "YOU"

>>1577578
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89lan_School

There were others in Caribbean (employing similar teaching methods for 'troubled teens') too, sadly can't find the link for them right now.

>>1577632

Go fuck yourself. What a fucking retarded mentality you have.

900/10 rage. Wow i fucking hope you get cancer

>>1577641
Also you're fucking stupid. The film is coming out with a R-rating - so anyone who actually needs to see the film (school students) isn't seeing it.

>>1577611

>And I love how normalfags consider it perfectly fine to make another person's life a living hell

B-Back that accusation up. I consider myself pretty normal, but I do not condone mindless cruelty.

The way I see it, we're looking at a case of two very opposite extremes. On the one end you have the people in this thread treating the very concept of normalcy as some kind of disease that drives people to prey upon the weak for their jollies. On the other end, you have people saying any deviant or weird behavior should be punishable by imprisonment and medication.

Both assumptions are completely laughable. Most introverts do not harbor constant homicidal thoughts, and most extroverts do not go out of their way to make the lives of others miserable.

But I will grant you that there are people in power that do very little to fix the problems prevalent in the school system regarding how to handle cases of abuse. I think the real problem here is that we're still using the term "bullying" to describe such cases.

Think about the word for a second. "Bullying" does not sound like a very serious term. It springs to mind images of wedgies in the hallway or kids calling each other names. It's the realm of "immature children", and as a result many adults, especially older ones, have a difficult time taking it seriously.

But if you call it exactly what it is (abuse, assault, harassment), that's when people start taking notice. There's more respect for the gravity of the situation when one uses legal terminology instead of an antiquated word that only serves to make light of the problem at hand.

>>1577656
You're right, maybe we need to look at the true victims: the bullies. If only they'd gotten the help they needed, they wouldn't have felt the need to bully this kid, and this tragedy could have been averted.

>>1577667
>what a fucking retarded mentality you have
I'm not that guy or a normalfag by any standards but seriously, he may have expressed himself poorly but the meat of his argument is solid.
>dealing with bullies by learning self respect and to defend yourself
>not shooting up your school
A lot of kids are bullied, only the fruit loops do shit like this.

>>1577670
The film isn't for students you dick. It's for parents/teacher. So when little jimmy(probably you) get's bullied. The parents and school administration would hopefully do more to stop the bullying.The film doesn't say go head and shoot people.

>mfw never bullied
>mfw I went to a small high school of about 600 and there was never really a problem with anyone being bullied
>unless you were really fucking weird or dun goof'd bad or something

those beautiful delicate flowers are now dead, how could this happen, they brought joy and happiness to everyone around

>>1577689
how about we stop trying to figure out who the true victims are, and just educate everyone on their actions? but, i guess we could just continue being assholes on the internet. that'll probably help.

>>1577684
I noticed this in the Meyers-Briggs threads a lot.
People think;
>introvert means you are a deviant loner
>introvert means you hate all other people
>
>extrovert means you are alpaca as fuck
>extrovert means you automatically have the desire to "bully" the helpless loner introverts

Stop with all of this.

>>1577641
>You can tell your,parents,teacher,police,anybody.

What we have here is someone who never got bullied. I'm from Eastern Europe, so YMMV:
>fighting back - you can fight back 1v1 or even 1v4, but not when your stuff gets destroyed every day when you aren't in class.
>involving parents did nothing - when I asked to take self-defense classes, they told me they had no money (yet they spent loads on my sisters clothes). Involving my mother always made it even worse for a few days, in the end I didn't even bother telling her anything unless she saw some of my stuff broken.
>teachers - they aren't paid to deal with that stuff, so they don't deal with it. As other anons in this thread said, your problems are your problems and nobody else can help you with that.
>police - the few times my stuff got stolen, they took in the application, but couldn't do anything. Sucks to walk home without boots in winter (they were comfy and warm too), but can't be helped. The injury I got (had to go to a surgeon -> instant police case opened) somehow got the charges dropped from prison time to just a warning (erased from record on his 18th birthday). I don't know how that guy's lawyer did it, but kudos to him.
>anybody - who, the newspapers? They only write about this stuff when either a victim or the bullies get killed.

So this is my experience with bullying. Tell me about yours, you egotistical fuck.

>kid pisses of the dog
>dog bites kid
>it's dog fault, need to be put down

Replying to >>1577705 : there's no fucking solid argument about bullying someone who minds their own shit. Just because I don't want to talk to others but I'm focused on school doesn't mean I need to be mentally and physically abused because LOOOL ITS NORMAL AND YOURE A CREEP YOU SURELY DESERVE IT.

but citing >>1577632

>No, you hate us because we remind you that you fully deserve your treatment.
Seriously , i mean REALLY? Do you realy think an introverted person who minds their own business and DOES NOTHING to others DESERVES such a treatment? How the fuck can you think like this? No wonder there is such violence in the world and parents abuse their kids with a smile on their face . Cause they were taught '' NO , I SAY U BAD , I HURT U''.

>The appropriate response to being bullied is to man the fuck up and learn to stand your ground, which means being able to counter verbal insults and to kick someone's ass if they want to beat you up, not to shoot them. Not being a fucking creep would help, too

NO ONE should bully anyone else unless that person was rude , annoying and actually ASKED FOR IT. Being a fucking creep? What fucking chicken's sandwhich shittaki spinach is your fucking problem that you care so much? I've seen plenty of ''creeps'' , i was one myself but HOW ON EARTH do you think bullying is justified for someone who completely minding their business?

Fucking hell , you're the type of person that needs to get a bullet straight in the fuckin nugget. I've been bullied in my life for basically minding my own business. I hope you get cancer , once again.

>>1577776
they have none, you must understand that there are 3 types of people, bullies, bullied and those who allow it. And that third group need to justify it, so that's why it's always bullied kid fault.

>>1577776
aww boohoo. I didn't live in some shit place. I'm also honest with my parents. If i was being bullied. I would of just told them. I wouldn't of tried to get self defense class.I was a bully in school. I bullied kids because i was really angry at the world.

>>1577776
Not that guy, but here's mine:
I may not have been bullied as seriously as you (it rarely got physical), but for years I'd have random people in the hallways throwing insults at me when I didn't even know them. Fighting never solved anything, no one I went to was able to help me, not my parents, nor the school, nor my "friends" (I kinda felt abandoned by them after a while), and it was never serious enough to call the police.

But I didn't shoot anyone, and now, several years later, I am able to put things into perspective and realise that bullying doesn't justify murder. It sucks, but you just have to deal with it.

>>1577824
i hope someone will put a bullet through your head so we can have this thread again

>>1576902
>>1576902
This is so rediculusly true. Ignoring the problem doesn't make it go away, only worse.

>>1577465
Why do you assume he did nothing to stop it?

>>1577807
>here are 3 types of people, bullies, bullied and those who allow it.
What about people who might sympathise, but are powerless to stop people from being bullied, which is probably the largest group? You can't seriously think the world is made up of bullies, their victims, and people who can put a stop to it but look the other way.

>>1577776
I was never bullied, I was the grey man for 18 years.
I saw a fair amount of bullying, and I always tried to stick up for the victim. It was strange, because the bullies were nice people in every other situation.
They could never be out and out aggressive around me or to me, because everyone in the school (pupils, teachers, janitors etc.) all just thought I was a harmlessly nice guy. So whenever I was around, they always had to do that "oh dude dont take it so serious we were only joking" shit (which I hate).
I never really managed to change anyone's attitude or really stop any of the more systemic, calculated bullshit that kids did, but I did once save a younger kid's gameboy and he cried when I handed it back to him. I was proud of that.
Never told teachers about what I witnessed, but always suggested that the victims did. I wanted to help, but I wasn't going to snitch, sorry.

>>1577841

Some people are born more sensitive than others. I'm like that , I cry faster when it comes to something . I deal with bad stuff harder than others. People are different and they're born this way , whether you like it or not. Some cannot simply take the torture anymore and resort to this. Being a bully victim myself ( wasn't a creep , was the kind of girl that doesn't follow fashion , doesn't use make up daily , doesn't dress with different expensive clothes everyday , don't have a car , don't have rich parents ) I wholeheartedly encourage the bullied to kill those who bullied them . NOT the ones that never did anything to them. Bullies deserve the death sentence if the case is very bad (just insults for example don't qualify , but being physically abused and mentally for a very long period of time is definetly valid to be punished through death).

Those who say that bullying ain't no big deal either
1. were bullied in a minor manner
2. were born strong

You cannot change a sensitive person no matter how much . You cannot justify bullying in any way either.

>>1577841
Tell me did you fear going to school for years? Was every hour of your life so stressful you would consider suicide day after day? Were you beaten by groups of people few times a weak? Were your reputation so destroyed that no one would ever consider spending time with you? Did people ridicule you all the time?

If, not then you know shit about being bullied. Sorry, random insult is not the same as knee to the face every day.

>>1577630
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_world_fallacy
Educate yourselves you morons.

>>1577881
The same things that make you assume he was bullied in the first place.

>>1577896
I'm not saying that bullying isn't a big deal, I'm saying murder is an even bigger deal. I'm not saying bullying can be justified, I'm saying murder can't be justified either. Shouldn't bully victims know more than anyone that it's wrong to inflict pain on others? Get over your petty revenge fantasies.

>>1577824
you are piece of shit who deserves all the suffering you'll get in your life.

Sounds like this guy was insane. It's a hard lesson but sometimes the outcast is cast out for a perfectly good reason, even younger people have an innate sense of when someone is dangerous.

>>1577849
They wont. I'm a real nice guy now.Some people even call me a gentleman. That my point. When i was in high school i was just angry for many reason. I did not deserve a bullet in the head for it.

>>1577928
you are stupid, being alive with fucked up brain from bullying for 60 years is worse than death

>>1577938
yeah man I raped that chick cause I was angry. I don't deserve to be put down because I ruined her life mang

you are disgusting

>kid shoots randomly into a crow
>HURR HURR IT WAS THEIR FAULT

I honestly wouldn't give a fuck if he just shot the people who fucked with him.

>>1577905
Yes, yes, no, yes, yes. Also, I guess there was more than random insults. It did get physical from time to time. But it wasn't part of the routine.
Look, let's not play "who was bullied the most". I'm sure we can find someone who's had it even worse than you, but that doesn't automatically invalidate what you're saying.

>>1577016
I agree with this. Unfortunately the punishment system in the USA is a joke. If someone goes to jail. The jails themselves try to keep them in there for as long as possible. Fucking stupid capitalists.

>>1577938
then go find those people whose life you fucked, ask them fucktard if you deserve it

>>1577938
yeah man I raped that chick cause I was angry. I don't deserve to be put down because I ruined her life mang. I'm a perfectly good chap and prison would ruin me

you are disgusting

>>1577958
Look man, I only shot up my school because I was angry, I don't deserve a prison sentence.

>>1577978
Exactly. He should go to prison for killing people, just as a bully should suffer some consequences for being a piece of shit

>>1577965
no if you really had to deal with consequences of bullying for all your life then you would understand that bullied person has every right to kill a bully

>>1577958
yes because rape and bullying are the same thing. I never said didn't deserve some sort of punishment.also if you felt so strongly against bulling. Yet your doing the same thing in your post. I also think you completely missed the point. Most bullies live aren't all they held together. But i guess i'm on /r9k. So i'm going to have at assume to you all bullies are foot ball players and frat boys.

>>1577994
No he doesn't. He has the fight to fight the bully, but kill is a big extreme.

>>1577993
Bullet in the head is a consequence too, and light i would say. Better would be to torture him mentally and physically so he would be scared for life. But can't have that right?

>>1577996
The most incoherent post of the year.

>>1578007
you ever tried to fight like 5 people at once? or someone stronger? every day? how was it?

>>1578013
you just made this thread retarded. "We are against bullying, but let us bully you in an anonymous forum

>>1577286
Take a trip to Finland. The most lax gun laws on earth and there are exactly no shooting in schools. Ever. I think anyway... I'll check...

>>1577994
No, no one has the right to kill anyone. Stop acting like I "just don't understand" and I'd agree with you if I only knew. I'm principally against murder, regardless of my stance on and experiences with bullying.

>>1578039
Because you don't understand, you were never in a situation like that. Try to delude yourself more that there is nothing worse than death

>>1578034
Umm no

You see people bully others for NO reason, or at least they bully people that have done nothing wrong to anybody.

You admitted that you were a horrible piece of shit in high school and you deserve to be called out for it.

>>1577487
Wow. So many logical fallacies and assumptions.

>>1578056
So i'm saying that bully's are emotional wrecks. You don't agree with what i'm saying. So your bullying me. Which goes against your anti bullying stance.

>>1577193
you re a fucking moron if you think that telling on them will make it better it always makes it worse

>i have been through actual bullying not hurr ur such a fag actual physical and metal abuse from the whole school society and i for one am pleased when i see or hear about a school shooting

>>1578055
I said stop it. Consider that, perhaps, there are people who have lived through the same things you have, but reached a different conclusion. Consider that maybe you're letting your emotions guide you too much. Consider that you may be wrong.

And no, I'm not going to prove anything, treat it as a hypothetical if you have to.

Right, let's settle this once and for all, no trolls, just truth.

If you have been bullied, you deserved it. That is the bottom line to this entire argument, and whilst you have every right to revenge, your efforts would be much better spent on analysing where you went wrong and where you fell afoul of society's expectations of you, and using this knowledge to better yourself.

I was bullied. Every day for around 4 years I was beaten, abused and ostracised. For many years after I resented the bullies, and thought 'what did I ever do to deserve it?', but now I realise what valuable lessons I learnt from the experience.

You guys can do the same; circlejerking over some other lowlife who didn't know his place won't bring your lost years back.

If you were too quiet; you deserved it. Speak up and stand up for yourself.
If you were too smart; you deserved it. Not for being intelligent, but I bet you flaunted it. People do not like to know that you are better than them. You must assert your superiority in subtle ways.
If you were ugly/wore cheap clothes; you deserved it. Look after yourself and have some self respect, no one is irredeemable in terms of looks.

See, the problem is that you didn't conform to society's expectations of you. As much as you might like to think that you are individual and that you have a right to be different; you do NOT.

You deserved to be bullied. Shut up and know your place. Surely it made sense to you to CHANGE whatever aspect of yourself that other people disliked?

I learnt from my experience, and I learnt well. I learnt how to superficially adhere to others expectations and then manipulate them from within (an incredibly valuable trait).

All of r9k's problems can be solved with one sentence;

JUST BE FUCKING NORMAL.

I was bullied quite a bit. I also might have done a bit of bullying as well. Kids are animals; vicious, cruel, and unrelenting when there are no consequences for their actions. In high school I didn't get it nearly as bad as a lot of others, but some of the people I knew that got bullied: if they had walked into school and started shooting I wouldn't have batted an eye, it'd have been so obvious it was coming. While all of the adults say they never saw it coming, from the student perspective it would have been incredibly hard NOT to see it coming from a mile away. Shit just sort of stopped right after high school was over. Like someone flipped a switch. That, plus I never saw 99% of them after graduation.

So yeah, I've been on both sides of the issue. I'll usually side with the one who retaliates against the bullying. I have no love for those who bully others, and I didn't even get it that bad.

Article related, another case I thought showed justice: http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2012/jan/03/collier-judge-upholds-stand-your-ground-defense-ca/?partn
er=popular

>>1577632
>The appropriate response to being bullied is to man the fuck up and learn to stand your ground,
have fun being ganged up and beaten on then being expelled from school and working a slave job forever

>yeah 3 fights in middle school equals a ban where i live, not to mention if you mess with one guy you mess with 3-10 guys

not even a fucking fair fight

>>1578079
being an emotional wreck and letting it out on other people doesn't make you any less of a shit person than anybody else who tortures people for no reason.

it's like those child molesters that try to justify their molestation by the fact that they were molested as kids too. doesn't make them any less of a disgusting terrible excuse of human for that fact. neither does it excuse you or the kid from OP, although at least the kid from OP hurt the people that were hurting him in the first place so on a piece of shit subhuman scale you are a level above him

fuck you

>>1578105
and if you write this shit you deserve a bullet to the face, hope you will get it one day and it would be your fault.

>>1577689
Now were getting somewhere... Trace the long list of problems back to the source... Just to find out that they all originated at the very first hardship mankind had to deal with.

>>1578105
4/10 mildly raged

No one can be this retarded surely?

>>1578141
>>1578139

Answer me this;
Could all your problems be solved if you were normal?

I'll help you with the answer; YES.

It's a simple solution, the only reason you fight it is on principle.

>>1577776
I like you. You are a gentleman and a scholar.

>>1578080
yeah they say just tell someone but man in the hood you snitch you get your shit fuced
in the school you snitch you get your shit fucked

hurr telling someone will fix it all

>fuck you niggers

>>1578141
I was never bullied in my life. It's just that your reasoning is so incredibly retarded it doesn't even deserve a response that would explain how many illogical and crazy things you've written.

Thank god the bullying didn't turn you into a murderer, but just a benign fucked up sociopath that spews bullshit on 4chan.

>>1578157
what do you mean by normal you fucktard? because i was normal when i entered school and ended fucked up when i ended it. and if you think bullying is ok then you must accept that it's your fault when bullied kid comes to blow your brain out. cause and effect, shithead

>>1578168
Shooting people also won't fix it, though. It's just another bad idea.

>>1578105
No you dipshit, people harm other people not due to 'being unable to conform', but out of pure spite and malice. It doesn't matter what you do, some shithead will find a reason to harm you and belittle you because it makes him feel good.

It's much easier to put the blame on the victim because that way you don't have to think much, and it's not a good thing to rock the boat, is it?

>>1578177
dead kid wont bully anyone again, seems like shooting fix things

>>1578175
lol ive know a few guys that were really fucked up in the head after being bullied

i fit in with them well being kinda the same but some shit i mean i was like woah man there is no need for that now

I have yet to find anywhere amongst the bully apologists, the justifications for bullying a kid that goes along school and minds his own business. Doesn't talk to anyone, just wants to be left alone and leave others alone.

However, I guess that kid deserves to be bullied, huh?

>>1576821
>>1576821
>>1576821
>>1576821
>>1576821
>>1576821
>>1576821
>>1576821

i hope the shooter gets the death penalty. as a minor. i hope he gets fucking roasted in the electric chair. i want to watch him fry.

what gave him the right to be so much of a pussy that he brings a gun to school and shoot up random people?

what gives him the right to decide who will live and who will die?

what gives him that right to other's lives.

i personally hope this little fucking dumbass rots in prison until he does what he apparently should have done from the outset because he's such a huge fucking pussy: commits suicide.

what a fucking cunt. what a huge fucking cunt.

yes i mad. i lost a sister in the VTech shootings. this shit is too close to home for me.

my condolences to the families in this situation. they're the true victims here. not this self-entitled, pity seeking, attention whoring cunt bastard.

he's no better than the bullies at the school. no, in fact he's worse. he's a fucking coward-ass murderer.

>>1578176

If you're a guy , please have my babies, i fucking love you.


As for this guy:

>>1578105
You'd do a better service to mankind if you killed yourself. No really , i thought in 2012 people would be smarter than this.

>>1578105
bro tell me... what if you can't fucking conform due to having an advantage over everybody else... it's very hard to be just normal. specially if being normal is being stupid, idiotic and to some extent self-destructive. I tried to be normal as much as possible but shit I have to survive too. The way I see it in you're post is people will shun you if you don't live within their expectations. I can't live within others expectations because I have to find ways to survive/live in this world other than BEING NORMAL (SHEEP)... ie being smart, not wasting money on stupid things, saving money, having plans in the future and continuously improving oneself... I'm telling you that MOST NORMAL people don't have those capabilities.

>>1578220

I bet your sister was a little fucking slut . She deserved to get killed . Man , i hope she got roasted nicely. Not die quick , i hope she got shot bad enough to live excruciating pain before she pased out like the little shit she was. <3

going to school to shoot people seems desperate, really, he just should go there pull the gun on them and tell to bite their dick off

>>1578248

you're a little ray of sunshine aren't you. i'm not surprised of this response given the fact that this board idolizes a murderer.

>>1578220
>what gave him the right to be so much of a pussy that he brings a gun to school and shoot up random people?

The American constitution.

>>1578266
I can't say I support her (her attitude seems to be too much over the top even for my taste + she has a cunt), but you are even more retarded for supporting bullies. It's like normalfags can't handle more than 1 level of logic.

quiet kid -> gets bullied -> fucked up mental health -> gets bullied more -> takes revenge on his bullies = OH NO POOR BULLIES WHAT DID THEY EVER DO TO DESERVE THIS

>>1578220
Maybe if your sister had sucked his dick like the good little whore she was, she wouldn't have been killed.

>>1578273

you are so fucking wrong it hurts.

minor owning/carrying a firearm? illegal
bringing firearm to school? illegal again
shooting someone? holy FUCKING shit it's illegal yet again.

your ignorance is astounding.

>>1578288
>>1578248

bullies.

hypocritical bullies.

I used to be bullied hard mentally, never physically though. Telling anyone didn't do anything. But I'm the kind that grows stronger, I used to be a lovely child, happy all the time with a smile. Now I never smile, I can't feel empathy for anyone, it's like I'm surrounded by an impenetrable shell that's keeping me safe.
If I hadn't grown this shell I probably would have killed myself in my teenage years or just shoot up the school.

>>1578286

i'm not supporting bullies. i'm just differing from the consensus here which seems to be that the murderer was justified in his actions. he has no right to take a life.

>>1578298
same, i almost an hero'd but i was fucking stopped i regret not doing still. now i hate the world and live in a steaming ball or anger and evil wanting to see shit in turmoil.

>hurr bullies did this to me durr

>>1578298
I feel the same, this change was forced on me at it won't help in life. Now i have to deal with it till i die, but those little fuckers that bullied me will be normal.

>>1578298
Yeah, shutting in helps a lot when you don't even try to interact with anyone anymore. When I got a computer and Internet, at least then I didn't have to cry myself to sleep each night.

>>1578297
How is it hypocritical? It seems the views of those you reference say the victims aren't victims. It seems to me they're just defending the position that the supposed "shooting victims" really aren't "victims" at all.

However, that's probably over your head, fuck logic here.

>>1578297

You are aware that 'hypocritical bullies' describes a good cross section of 4chan and it's sister sites' userbase right?

If bullying is so wrong I'm thinking /r9k/ shouldn't have taken that iphone picture of that girl getting eaten out and sent it everywhere. (/r/ing that pic actually) Probably shouldn't have done the whole Jessi Slaughter thing either...maybe Chris Chan wasn't a great idea either. I know those are /b/ but you get the idea, everyone loves poking someone else tog et a reaction, everyone is petty and mean when they can get away with it. The only difference here is that the guys on here were on the receiving end.

>8 years of school, being bullied
>going to high school
>dead inside
>"hey anon, why are you always so silent"

>>1578330
r9k isn't a one live person you know

>>1578342
>>"hey anon, why are you always so silent"
>me: "burn in hell you shitbag scumfuck"

sotrm off pissed and bitch on the interwebbs

Fucking peice of shit cowards, if the only way they can stand up to someone is with a gun in their hand.

>>1578324
>>1578324
>>1578324

>hurr durr bullies are bad, now hold on while i bully someone anonymously over the internet.

how is that not hypocritical? or is that logic over your head? because fuck logic right?

and how is taking a life justified? i feel bullied by your attempt to belittle me with that "fuck logic bit," and that was the straw that broke this camel's back. i feel like i deserve the right to shoot and kill you because you made me snap from your bullying, it was more than i could handle in my fragile mental state.

>>1578354

I know, but there aren't that many people on here, this is hardly a big board so realistically it's not that many. That's why I said 'good cross section' and not 'everyone'.

Reading comprehension, how does it work?

Also don't you think the majority of people here can laugh at shit when it's not happening to them?

>>1578362
you dipshit, why you are so brave in group against one weaker person? I'm sure you only bully professional boxers right?

>>1578220

Hey cunt, we all laughed at the VTech shootings... A new high score. Pity you weren't visiting your relative on the day the shooting happened so we'd be rid of you too.

>>1577554
Normality means you are a drone who pays taxes so that you government can develop better ways to control you (MKULTRA) and to commit mass murder ("Defense" spending). You also will spent most of your life working for someone else, doing things you don't want to do so you can buy things you don't really need, have children who will also just spend their lives likewise, ad infinitum, and you in your normalcy and self-absorption are never aware of this.

>>1578372

How was that bullying in any way? The comments were directed at his sister, not him.

Once again, pointing out the fact that his sister isn't such a "victim" that others would like you to believe.

Reading comprehension, what is it.

I'll just let you keep on rage typing though. Because you're showing your true idiotic power levels.

>>1578377
There are many idiots here, just like in rl. But there are ok people too.
I think this post >>1578220 seemed too much like a troll so it got troll responses.

And you are right, people doesn't care about those dead kids because it's not happening to them, but at the same time others laugh at bullied kids. And it's the same, they were never bullied so they can't understand.

Btw what was your sisters name so I can sodomize get rotting corpse, take photos and distrbute them on /b/?

>>1578429
Yeah, because calling someone's dead sister a whore and trivialising her death is in no way bullying. Couldn't be, because it wasn't directed at him personally.

>>1578429
>>1578429
>>1578429

your idiocy is unbounded, as it's your reading comprehension that really needs to be checked. how do you think someone feels when they lose a relative, especially a sibling?

this place is fucking retarded. you all should seriously off yourselves before you do something worse. like continuing whatever "life" you have. it's fucking pathetic. abso-fucking-lutely pathetic what a waste of 80 years of precious time on this planet.

the dunning-kruger effect has reduced your moralities to nonexistence.

>>1578409
Or you are, but just don't care since there's nothing you can do to stop it.

>>1578469

Holy shit, we need to screen cap this guy's post. I think /r9k/ has sunk to the ultimate low level now.

>white knighting for a dead bitch

Holy shit..........

>mfw
>I have no face

>>1578473
Look, it's the person calling people a hypocrite being a hypocrite......how delicious.

>>1578486
you surely meant: white knighting a troll post?

>>1578486
Really, that's the lowest point of this thread?

>>1578473
Is that the one that's kind of like the wisdom of crowds, but in reverse?

>>1578447

I don't think that people are evil or stupid for being hypocrites like that and I certainly don't think they're strictly speaking bullies. The only problem comes when people try and pretend they'd never do that and only evil red-and-white-jacket jock normalfags would.

Fact is that almost anyone will be cruel to someone they don't think of as human, it's why people here can do what they do and why people don't jump in front of a bully's fists to save a victim. That hypocrisy is kind of normal for people, it's why I can look at dead Syrian kids without more than mild distaste but a picture of my grandmother affects me.

Having said that, since /r9k/ seems to have an average unique poster count of around 300 (I think it's 280 today) I certainly think there are few enough users here to kind of pin group behaviour on them. If this was /b/ and we were ranking ten thousand plus unique posters a day then yeah, people would legitimately not be involved but 280 people across a day means a good chunk are simultaneously saying bullies meed to be shot and 'ruining someone's life' online.

>>1578481
Really now. Entropy is the only constant. Every system breaks down, and so will the current one.

Kid gets bullied
>How DARE anyone accuse this kid of being anything other than a helpless, blameless victim of a cruel and uncaring environment?
Kid shoots people
>They totally deserved it

Stay classy, /r9k/.

>>1578517
>>1578447

it was a troll post indeed, but necessary to expose the flaws in the "logic" being used to justify murder.

>guaranteedreplys.jpg

>>1578383
Actually, I was bullied at school, and instead of thinking "I'll make myself into a universally despised piece of shit", I made something of myself.

>>1578528
Oh, but being bullied can ruin someone's life. But so can getting shot. Anyone who is trying to justify either one of these needs to get their priorities straight.

>>1578542

I see no inconsistencies
at all, what's your point?

I asked this question previously and still have yet to get a reply:

>>1578208

Go on, answer it.

>>1578528
It's because this board is full of people who have life fucked because of bullies. And you can't understand it if you aren't in this situation.

Bullies destroy life, and you can't shrug off years of abuse. This makes you full of hate. It's easy to say death is bad if you had ok life. But the more life fucks you over the more you understand death isn't the worse that can happen.

>>1578560
what, some did insult you once? sure you were bullied

>>1578542

We will, thank you.

Bullies are subhuman, they are base animals that have foregone the higher level functioning o of most humans and have reverted to an animalistic state, therefore when they become too much to handle, they should be taken out in the woods (or found in the halls) and shot.

Really I would advocate torture, but we can at least show them compassion and make it quick even though they are incapable of feeling it themselves.

>dresses as a goth
>expects not to get bullied
When will the sub-normals learn, actions have consequences?

>>1578594
Why should I? I am not a bullying apologist. So I guess my answer is no, of course he doesn't deserve to be bullied. Bullying is terrible. But people don't deserve to be murdered, either. You are a murder apologist.

>>1578595

but what if i recognize, and have recognized, that death isn't the worst thing to happen to someone, even though i "didn't go through anywhere near the same mental trauma" as others here?

>>1578595
>And you can't understand it if you aren't in this situation.
Stop doing this. It's so arrogant. People can have different responses to the same situation. Not everyone is you. Plus, even if something is understandable, it doesn't have to be justified.

If I witness any kind of traffic accident whether it involve all vehicles or vehicle(s) and a pedestrian and I don't stop to talk to the police, I can be arrested.

How is this any different than the kids who witness bullies and do nothing to intervene?

I think every kid should be held accountable. Silence is only an enabler to the bullying.

>>1578574
i'm not justifying anything, i just think that life as bullied kid is worse than a death, so killing them was lesser evil

>>1578607
No friends whatsoever at school, had to watch out for fear of getting the crap kicked out of me when I walked home, never had a girlfriend (or a female friend, or any friends at school). Teachers didn't give a shit because I acted like a shit because my life fucking pissed me off so much.

If anyone ever tells you your school days are the best days of your life, then they never amounted to anything.

>>1578629
And as
>>1578631
I can tell you you're totally fucking wrong. Why don't more bullied kids kill themselves, if you're right?

>>1578629
Killing himself would have been the lesser evil, then. Killing others serves no purpose.

I think this is the basic disconnect here. The normal fags still see the bullies as being people, to those who have been chronically bullied, they are animals, having no rights, no feelings, no empathy, no sympathy, and should be dealt with like an errant animal would.

>>1578645
if they were bullies they won't ruin any more lifes

>>1578616
>murder apologist

how am I a murder apologist? My point is stop acting like the "victims" of these shootings are "innocent victims" and the shooter is some evil monster.

You can't have it both ways.

>>1578595

I was bullied too for a while, puberty gave me a rugby player's build though so it didn't last too long. What I mean is that it doesn't take a special breed of monster to be a bully, all it needs is people that don't think of their target as a human being. It's the same mechanism as Anon's various Internet capers it's just that they were on the pointy end of it that time. Fact is most people can be a bully and in the case of the userbase here and on the rest of the sites a lot of them are.

I guess my perspective changed, I used to be exactly like most people here until eighteen but then it suddenly clicked that it wasn't so much that bullies were idiot assholes, it's more that anyone can be an asshole to someone they don't care about.

Mostly it's semantics, as with most news stories I don't actually have an opinion on this shooting one way or the other.

You know what? School should be a haven for kids when home is hell, which I assume is what happened with Lane with his dad in jail and all. People should be encouraging the loners and outcasts to join in their activities and fun instead of bullying them, like you know, decent people? Just... damn, if people like Lane had been accepted at school, he could have been like one of us.

Inb4 "hurr durr, they're kids" I don't think some of you realize that this shit can last in a person for life.

And FYI, bullying is NOT normal. Bullying is the result of having low self-esteem combined with peer pressure and the need to fit in. All of which could have been prevented if school was a place where everyone could help each other out and accept people for who they are, so they can build confidence in themselves.

I feel like if there was some legal consequences involved with kids bullying, this shit could be prevented.

I'm sorry if he felt like an "outcast" but the fact is if you're a weird or annoying or creepy, people arent going to want to hang out with you.

Go ahead and bitch aspies, you're just frustrated that you have to actually make an effort to be social and make friends.

Protip: I was a loner and an outcast most of my life, I only recently attained some friends. It takes work and years of effort to improve yourself.

>>1576859
Too bad its not true. There are assholes everywhere in the world, doesnt mean you shoot them. Grow up kiddie.

>>1578663

you're refusing to recognize that a human life was ended prematurely by murder. take the fucking "victim" doublespeak out of it. one human murdered another human. it's murder.

>>1578663
>You can't have it both ways.
So wait, it's impossible for me to acknowledge that people don't deserve to be shot without being a bullying aoplogist, but it is possible for you to acknowledge that people don't deserve to be bullied without being a murder apologist? Furthermore, aren't you one of the people actually justifying this murder?
They are all victims. Neither can be justified.

>>1578665
Of course people are assholes, but you don't se your neighbors everyday ganging on you before you leave to work. Everyone do some bad things to others, but when they start this doing everyday for years, then they deserve to die.

>>1578668


What part of this can't you and your ilk get:
ueller [a fellow student] described Lane as "a quiet kid. Freshman year he got into a 'goth' phase and didn't talk to that many people anymore. He never egged anybody on. He just went about his business."

>>1576902
>>1576902
I blame "child-worship"

Link related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6wOt2iXdc4

>>1578699

>deserve to die

you are pants-on-head, window-licking retarded if you think you have any right to kill another being except in a case where you life is directly being threatened. you are legally and morally in the wrong. hope your revenge killings feel as good as you hope they will.

>>1578666
I think there were a study that bullying isn't result of low self esteem. It's quite opposite. People who think they are better than others think others are shit and deserve to be treated this way. Kids are like animals, they learn that hurting others can bring them to the top of the pack.

>mfw all the kill bullies/hurt bullies/completely destroy the lives of bullies
>mfw the only people saying this are those faggots that were actually bullied in highschool
>mfw I laugh at how fucking sensitive you faggot are that some dude saying mean things to you actually hurt you
>mfw the assburgers is strong in you all.

>>1578705
I read that. He felt like an "outcast" because no one would hang out with him because he dressed like a clown, and so he offed a couple kids for it.

>>1578699

I don't agree with 'die' because that's way too final, but substitute nearly anything else in there and I'll agree. Self control is something everyone should exercise in situations like that, it's easy to pick on the weak guy but you shouldn't do it.

Having said that my point still stands, a good proportion of people here have taken part in some form of bullying through this board or another, or have stood by and watched while it was done. All I'm saying is that that predatory instinct to pick off those weaker than you is something everyone has, people may be bullies to a greater or lesser extent but pretty much everyone indulges in spiteful cruelty for fun occasionally.

>>1578687

I am a murder apologist. I feel that in some cases murder is justified, this being one of the cases. If I had a kid being bullied and there were no avenues of recourse left to him or I, I would give him all the information that I had about the consequences of killing someone, both legal, personal and spiritual and let the kid decide if he didn't mind throwing his life away. I could engineer some way to help him get a gun and I would give him my blessing to kill his abuser.

>>1576961
I dont know though. It is a fact that when you're an adoloscent, your brain is not as developed as an adult and therefore you have less capacity to make sound judgements.

I dont think getting the legal system involved is the answer

>>1578743
Wouldn't it be easier to transfer him to another school or something? Less effort, less consequences, better chance of starting over... That's what I think of when I think about a last resort against bullying.

>hear about this news yesterday
>tell bro
>"1 dead and 4 injured"
>he responds with "he was a terrible shot"

>>1578742
what do you think bullying do to people? it's not murder so it can't be that bad right?

>>1578743

and you would be in accessory, so you would be thrown in jail. that is exactly where you should be. sequestered off so your lack of morality will be able to be viewed introspectively.

>>1578724

Honestly, I used to bully people and say really mean things in high school, often to losers/betas. At the time I was deeply insecure (and later bordering on psychotic) and insulting randoms at school was an easy outlet for my anger. Most manipulative, antagonistic, antisocial behavior is the result of inner turmoil, powerlessness, and pain -- that's just a fact.

It's funny because a lot of people IRL have told me that I'm known as a major asshole who treats others like shit... but I feel like the victim in a lot of situations, and I've certainly endured my fair share of bullying. Just goes to show you that it's all about your perspective and we all go through suffering, best not to judge anyone.

>>1578743
Im calling bullshit. No decent parent would do that. Im guessing you're around 15-18 and you're trying to be "edgy" and "controversial", do I got you right?

Back in Middle School I was sent to a catholic school here in Portugal. I didn't much care for religion, my parents were catholic but we didn't really go to church everyday. The reason why I went to this school was supposedly because it was really good. It had very good installations, very good teachers and would likely be a good place to grow up. What they didn't tell you however is that it's frequented mostly by rich snobs who will bully the shit out of anyone they pick as a target.

I wasn't exactly rich, but I had a stable income and my grandparents (who actually were wealthy both from their time in africa and from a good retirement plan) so I managed to attend. Now, here's the deal. At the time I was taller than the usual kid, I played video games a lot, I liked fantasy books, I was skinny and I was generally bad at sports. It didn't take long untill I was targeted by most of my class and a couple of dudes who were older than me.
Because I was young and weak, even if I tried to fight back I'd get my ass handed to me. Most of the time because I did this -I- got in trouble and they didn't. My parents still recall coming to pick me up at school and finding my glasses inside a trash container. My parents actually threatened to sue to school for not doing anything about it, at some point they tried to pull the "He's mentally ill" joke on me and got me to see a psychiatrist.

(To be continued)

>>1578743
Are you me? I was actually thinking the same.

However, I think as someone else already previously pointed out, the best way to handle it, would be to acquire an attorney and hit the school for everything they had for not providing a safe environment for my child.

Note, I was 12 so it's not like I could trick a psychiatrist. I went to her office during half a year and the result of her evaluation was that I was a completely normal kid who was suffering from bullying and couldn't do anything about it. By that time, two years had already gone by since I had joined the school and I was going to leave by the next month, I had already started taking self-defense lessons which would've been useful earlier but not now that the teachers were trying to figure out what was going on (Not that it mattered, I was about to leave the school so it was too late and the damage was done)

After that I switched schools, I became an introvert and still have problems making friends (18 now). From time to time there are some bullies who try to give me shit, but I just insult them back because I'm not scared of what they can do to me anymore, their insults don't do shit on me either because I just don't give a damn anymore (after 6 years of Aikidu I already have a black belt. Go figure.). Generally I'm seen as slightly hostile because I don't trust people that much besides a close group of friends. People call me anti-social because I'd rather spend time alone and avoid going with the crowd.

Man up and stand up for yourself? Now I can, pitty it's six years too late. The guys who bullied me are probably still living the good life with their rich parents and will never suffer from what they did to me. Sometimes people just can't fight back, at that point they resort to a weapon.

>>1578780
So you insulted people, so what?

Or did you and your friends follow that one guy and beat the shit of him every day? Did you take his money, and punish him for everything? And do other shit to him?

>>1578765

I mean I would be all up in the schools face before we got to that point, I would have already had kids arrested for assault and battery. I wouldn't have a problem putting anyone older than kindergarten in 'jail' for abusing my kid. This would have to be a major, ongoing, cannot-solve-by-rational-means issue. But I also plan to privately educate my kid. I wag in private schools till college and never endured any bullying at all.

IMO we oughta give self defense lessons to every kid starting from when they're very young. Give every one a "fighting chance", so to speak, to stick up for themselves.

>at school
>being beaten in front of teacher room
>teachers passing without care or with comment like "i see you kids playing"

NEWS FLASH NEWS FLASH NEWS FLASH NEWS FLASH NEWS FLASH NEWS FLASH

THIS JUST IN:
LIFE IS NOT FAIR, WORLD SHOCKED AT NEWS

Geneva, Switzerland: U.N. scientists have come across the shocking discovery that life isn't fair, U.N. officials released from their laboratory in Switzerland earlier today. It seems that every human's life and experiences will be different from others, and that not everything will be all right 100% of the time. Sources close to the officials say that this finding has been a long time coming, and that they really should have seen it.

"I'm speechless," Senior Laboratory Technician Alexei Kolarov said, "all this time that man has been trying to control nature...we've been fighting an uphill battle. It's impossible for us to make sure everything happens equally for every human being in the world, every single time. I just don't understand."

If I had access to a firearm back when I was in school I would have happily shot up the place.

but alas being a citizen of the United Kingdom and that 3 years have passes since I left school all I can do is carry an unfixed blade under 3 inches and hope I meet them in the street.

Because I was alienated and generally treated like shit in school, people kept silent and never helped me. My break times consisted of me spending time on a library computer or walking the school grounds alone.

Yes it's petty but you are the product of your environment.

>>1578855
Self defense is shit if you have to fight against someone who fight often or group of people. When being robbed or attacked is better to give away your stuff, or run if you can. But when you have to go to school you can't do that.

>>1578781

Incorrect, guess again.

Only true heros of r9k. Eh kills alphas and feminists and doesnt afraid of anything.

Hell, these guys in pic didnt kill the people they knew were beta and let them live while they were looking around for people to kill.

lawd bless these 2 men. OP's killer is shit tier.

>>1578863
so what, everyone knows that. this thread is about if those fucktards deserved to die

>>Be the average kid in highschool who wasent affiliated with any cliques
>>Silent but had a strong build which made people intimidated
>>Went around viciously bullying the bullies, even driving one to suicide

At the time I wasent intending to protect the weirdos who were targets of bullying even though it ended up happening anyway but looking back Im glad my actions indirectly made life better for the downtrodden.

>>1578863
Yeah life isn't fair, so you shouldn't complain when the people who make some kids life a living hell get what they deserve.

>>1578863
>LIFE IS NOT FAIR

and that's why we have guns to even everything out

>>1578885
..You think everyone here doesn't already know that.

Every year i praise these two and have a drink in their honor. Fucking heroes.

>>1578895
>downtrodden

do you know who are the downtrodden? sex slaves, child laborers, victims of war crimes

NOT
awkward highschool weirdoes that have victim complexes

PROTIP:
I was bullied all the time as a kid. I got over it. I never shot up my schools.

I've got a great idea.
Someone gets called out for being a bully? They get sent to a local bully school where they can be with their kind, no excuse. Trust me they will all get along.
That way the "victim" can just call them out anonymously and see them get sent away, no questions asked. Because who are you going to believe? the helpless victim or the bully?

But seriously, bullying is out of PURE spite they do this FOR FUN like playing video gaems.
It doesn't HELP the victims at all, if they are quiet, IT WILL MAKE THEM QUIETER. If they are ugly IT WILL MAKE THEM UGLIER.

And the best part is that the victim gets scarred most likely FOREVER while the bully wont even remember their victim.

It's hilarious how this works. Usually bullies are the ones that are the most well off and over privileged and the victims are just poorfags trying to go to school.
You can't just tell a kid to "stop being poor lol!!"

Bullies usually have nothing wrong in their family life except "daddy didn't give me an xbox for my weekly present bawww" and take it out on the little poorfags.

I don't pity bullies at all, they've been spoonfed everything their whole entire life and will keep being spoonfed for the rest of their life.
They have everything handed to them and have been taught to take things away from others because there are absolutely no consequences.

Bunch of goddamn morons arguing over what normal I, and what to do when bullying occurs. Simple solution: man the fuck up hold yourself to a higher standard, and help others achieve that goal. Being a victim is for sandy pussies.

>>1578959
He did man the fuck up. He manned the fuck up and dealt with his problem.

Anyone here have the liveleak video of the columbine shooting with video (supposedly faked) but still fun to watch?

>>1578927
>>1578927
Same. I was bullied every year of my educational life until senior year, and that was when I made two friends who were stoners who only used me to put in to buy weed.

Fast forward, now I have about four solid friends who like me for who I am, feels good man.

Oh lol, some people are telling to man up against bullies. Some bullies around here beat the shit out of the teachers or adults. They know older guys that have criminal record. You can easily be killed, but they mostly break your arms or legs if you go against them. They will never fail class, because school is afraid of them and want to get rid of them.

>>1578941
There already are "bully schools", they just call them schools for "troubled kids". I know kids who got sent to them, and they were all bullies or stoners.

>>1578984
Where the fuck are you? Compton?

>>1578959
I take it you can fight off the entire school with your scrawny child body and not just get beat up even more?

Understand that 100% of the time this isn't a 1 on 1 fair battle otherwise 99% of those people would quite like those odds.

People like you are the ones that haven't experienced horrible, except maybe your pet died out of neglect or something.

>>1578997
or poor people that live around and can't move and will get bullied there

I hate when people say the term "life isn't fair" because that implies we can't do anything as a society to make it fair. We can at least try to change things instead of being lazy.

>>1578997
Well they should make a fuckton more of them and have the kids sent right away.

>>All the posts praising bullies

Im genuinely confused, are most normal fags incapable of feeling empathy or something?

>>1578972

Sound it confirmed fake but video is real but still good.

I warm you its quite disturbing tho.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f51_1175143200
as someone itt said. heros of r9k

I have the vid saved. problem normalfags?

>>1579060

shit thats scary

>>1579007
Poland lol. I still remember one situation from school when some older girls didn't like girls from my class. So they got their older boyfriends to go to school regularly and beat the shit ouf those girls. And no one did anything, School didn't care, those guys weren't from our school or probably any other. Parent's couldn't do anything. It ended after some time, but only because i think those guys didn't want to bother.

>When will the normals learn, actions have consequences?

Seriously op? seriously? this kid FUCKING DIED. Who the fuck doesn't understand consequences? Pretty sure it's the idiot who shot himself.

>>1579053
>normal fags incapable of feeling empathy
So i'm not the only one who has thought of this too?
I'm pretty sure normal fags stretches out to upper middle class white families who have both parents.

So no, they don't feel empathy because they don't experience bad things. They can pretend but it's not the same thing.
Usually people can empathize with others if they experience it, though normal fags are the ones that usually dish that shit out because they are simply bored.

>>1579007
Not >>1578984, I'm >>1577776 - we had a few guys around like that too, some of them were teachers' kids. Luckily I had very little interaction with them, they all went to juvenile prison for beating up homeless guys around town.

>>1578725
>mfw you have no idea how things work
>mfw when you're an entitled asshole who believes his life experience is the only valid, real one.

>>1579060
Shit man, why couldnt I stop smiling while watching that.

>>1579099
Have no idea what shooter you're talking about buddy, the guy in the OP, turned himself in to a passerby after the shootings.

>>1579102
>>1579102
you don't know what you are talking about, for everyone's sake, stop posting

feelings of empathy are reserved for meaningful things, like losing a child in a school shooting, not someone being made fun of for their hairstyle or manner of dress. The things that you are getting "bullied" for are things that really are inconsequential. Unless you were bullied for things that you can't change, like your skin color (though only white people *complain* about shit like this) or your family's religion, you are just a beta with a victim complex. WE ALL WENT THROUGH THAT SHIT, EVEN THE SO CALLED 'NORMALFAGS'. Why is it that you guys are the only ones that are still holding a grudge? I forgave my bullies years ago, and I never looked back or held on to the seething resentment that, judging by the posts in this thread, gives you your reason to live.

Here are some facts that you don't know:
-the 'normals' as you call them, are just regular people. Regular people that don't let childhood experiences haunt them as adults. Get the fuck over it.
-adopting the identity of a subculture makes you an idiot. This is something that you bully other people for now, so why is 'different' when it happens to people that like what you like? (tip: it's because you're a hypocrite)

(cont'd)

>>1579252

-you are a sensitive fuck. Everyone gets called names in school. You don't know shit about 'normal' life, so let me tell you it's the exact same as yours, the only difference is that we are taught to not hold on to grudges. And if you can still remember the faces and names of those that bullied you, then you are living a sad and shitty life. LET GO.

-the things you are complaining about are trivial. The reason we go to school as children isn't just to learn facts, it's to learn how to socialize. You want to spend time on your own, fine, but you still have to know how to navigate through society. Whether or not you think this is stupid, it's true. Being socially awkward is something that you can fix, but it's hard now that you're much older, and judging by the posts so far, no one wants to genuinely improve themselves.


tl;dr WAHH SOMEONE CALLED ME A LOSER NOW I'M GOINGTO TURN THIS ANGER INTO HATE AND KILL PEOPLE BECAUSE I CAN'T DEAL WITH THE HARDSHIP BEING ALIVE

>mfw I was bullied everyday for 6+ years
>mfw I ignored it all, ignored everyone because that is the "right" thing to do
>they even threw garbage at me
>ignore
>shit gets physical and escalates
>I have no face when I don't even stand up for myself and still ignore it.
>eventually people start taking my side in the end of the years and pity me.
>shit cycle happens again in highschool
>be an empty shell of a human throughout

>out of school, now I am always thinking the worst out of people but getting better at being a normal fag.
>My life is the best it's ever been
>bullies have probably failed classes and go into community college while I'm following my dreams.

>that feel when I will be successful and laugh in their faces while their only good times where in grade school.
Sounds cheesy but bully victims, do something awesome with your life.

>>1578725
>"saying mean things"=/=wedgies in school, head in toilet in highschool, set on fire in college without any reason or consequences for the bullies.

No, John. You are the cancer.

I got my ass kicked plenty in my life. The point is I got tired of taking that shit so I changed myself for the better. And I help out my friends that have trouble dealing with assholes, confidence issues. Basically all I said was quit trying to be normal, respect and make yourself stronger. Sory, but I likex to get riled up and talk shit sometimes.

>>1579252

So, when I was in physical education class, it was you that I watched get stripped to your underwear, hung up on a wall hook by said underwear, and left there for three hours because a fucking teacher couldn't be bothered to worry about you?

FUCK YOU! YES I AM FUCKING MAD! YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT BULLYING EVEN IS, LET ALONE HAVE GONE THROUGH IT.

10/10

>>1579280

'saing mean things' IS what most losers in this thread are talking about

>>1579300
>reading comprehension
I bet you were one of these too cool for school people? It shows.

>>1579316
ooh, I bet the internet is the only place where you can type out something like that and not cringe and think about it for hours and then make a greentext thread about it

here, i'll type it out for you again:
most of the things that happened to r9k beta losers are not things that are 'real' in the sense that they weren't as bad as they made them out to be
ever had the shit kicked out of you for "being the wrong color" or having lunch leftovers pelted at you on the bus for the same reason? No? try enduring it for 7 years.

>>1579378
>>1579296
again, shut the fuck up. the reason that I don't let this shit consume my life is because my best years were NOT in school. And if anything, it made me tougher and I feel great about who I am now. I'm sorry I didn't help people like you in middle school, but I was busy dealing with the exact same thing.

So fuck you for being weak and letting it define who you are.

The best part about this shit was he didn't even go to that school; no, he wasn't getting revenge on any bullies. No, he wasn't selectively killing the people that wronged him. He just went to a random highschool and decided "HEY, TIME TO START KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE BECAUSE WAHHHHH." Demented little fuck.

>>1577160
>HURR IF YOU FEEL BAD FOR PEOPLE BEING SENSELESSLY MURDERED YOU'RE A BULLY

Neckbeard logic.

>>1579430
justice comes one way or another if the law cant help you then you have to do it yourself

>>1579268
>>1579252
>tl;dr WAHH SOMEONE CALLED ME A LOSER NOW I'M GOINGTO TURN THIS ANGER INTO HATE AND KILL PEOPLE BECAUSE I CAN'T DEAL WITH THE HARDSHIP BEING ALIVE
>i'll take that's the sum of your post.

You seem upset. I can't even read your posts properly so stopped bout 1/4th of the way.

Normal faggery to me refers to people who haven't seen much of the bad side of life. And that's a good thing for the most part.
It's just that they lack a certain amount of empathy for others because they are not used to being treated badly or hearing about bad things.

I was a normal fag once but then I learned that life is not always fair and all the morals you've learned don't really apply in real life.
So calm down dude, don't flip out on people because they're "baww so mean lolzz".

>>1579461
holy fuck THIS IS WHY PEOPLE PICK ON YOU
>justice

what the fuck do you know about justice? you think that anything that has ever happened to you warrants killing people that had absolutely nothing to do with what 'happened' to you?

>>1579461
>Hurr justice always needs to be served

How's that cognitive bias working for you?

Even if justice has to be served, you're a lunatic if you condone school shootings.

Why do these kids just kill random kids at their school.

If I was in that position where I had a gun I would spend the day acting normally and then when the kids who bully me come around take out the gun and blow them all away. Killing yourself is one way to get out of it or you could try to pin it on another kid, then again if you are desperate to kill then killing yourself shouldnt be a problem.

>>1579378

No, I was the guy trying to stand up for him, and a shit load of good it did me.

The principal was more interested in twisting the events to make it out like I did something wrong, just to keep it hush. It finally got so bad for the kid I had to full out bum rush someone to the ground and hurt him. (I was pretty scrappy for my age, then).

They stopped bothering the kid for a while, physcially. The mental stuff kept up, when I wasn't around.

As a matter of fact, the only way to get rid of bullies is to talk their language, terror. There was a gang of boys that used to walk around my hometown, and try to fuck with me. One day I simply had to grind my heels in and deal with them.

I ended up being paired off with the oldest bully to fight, which was a foot taller than me and three years my senior. Our fight lasted for two fucking hours while people watched this older kid beat the shit out of me.

And boy, was I fucking hurting the next day for school. I had to limp and my eye was swollen shut. Fortunately, I was able to hurt him worse, and he couldn't even get out of bed for two days.

That's what it takes, though. There is no communicating with bullies. You have to scare the fucking shit out of them or hurt them so fucking bad they don't want another round with you. And usually, they're too fucking stupid to understand when they should be scared.

All you normalfags who want to say, "Oh, but it's part of growing up," the killings are going to continue. There are many, MANY kids who can't stand up for themsevles because they are far too weak, and they're just going to be sport for the bullies. YOU'RE A FUCKING ENABLER OF A SYSTEM THAT WILL PRODUCE MURDERERS.

Sleep well.

>>1579500

The system created him.

You're defending a system that creates murders.

Consider it.

>>1579535
What the hell is 'the system', and how am I defending it? You sound like a teenage try-hard.

>>1579500
if it gets the job done then its okay by me maybe if it happens enough it will get trough those thick normalfag skulls of theirs and they'll leave people alone

>>1579549

I sound like a grown up and has actually graduated high-school, youngster.

You, on the other hand, think it's okay for them to continue to churn out killer after killer, and still blame the killer.

PRO TIP:

There was a guy on 4chan who was from that school, even provided pics and shit for source.

He said that one of those kids was a dealer and sold the shooter some fucked up weed.

>>1579410

> shut the fuck up.

Gee, you sound just like a bully!

You sure learned how to be tougher, eh?

>>1579530
says the guy with the victim complex
>The principal was more interested in twisting the events
when you say shit like this, people have a tendency to think that you are full of shit. let people decide for themselves if there was any wrongdoing.
>the only way to get rid of bullies is to talk their language, terror

you know that YOU are the bully now, right?
Why do you let this shit haunt you? are you going to start killing innocents because you have been wronged in an unforgivable way??

>>1579578

What do you mean they sold the shooter some fucked up weed?

How was it fucked up?

>>1579591

> why haunt you, etc..

It doesn't. I stood up for myself.

I do see a lot of "you're a victim, har har!" and "you're the bully, har har!" crap in your post, though.

I only fought those that tried to pick a fight with me.
I stood up for those that were bullied.

What exactly did you do, again? Oh, that's right. Just said: "Oh well, it's a fact of life. No biggie if he's so angry he feels he needs to kill someone."

> slowclap
Good job.

PS: You're post reeks of BS. Go clean it off.

>>1579566
who is the one responsible for killing innocent people?
>the killer
yes, I will blame the killer, they lone ade that decision. Society fucks with everyone, only they decide to do something as fucked up as a school shooting.

>>1579565
>if it gets the job done
You seem to think that an excess amount extreme consequences like school shootings are the only way to stop bullies.
>>1579566
You sound like you're making out school systems as being both the root of the problem, and as a 'system that creates killers'. You're an idiot if you think there is a certain 'system' in the public schools that can turn normal, well adjusted kids into murderers. Not to say the shooter was well adjusted, we still know little about him.

>>1579615
>I stood up for myself.
did you though? because you're reliving here like it's fucking vietnam. seek professional help, please.

The difference between me and you is that I got over it. You're still in high school, reliving that fight for some disturbing reason.

>>1579637

Someone gets into a fight where they sustain heavy injuries.

HURR DURR IT WAS JUST A FIGHT GET OVER IT

Im sure your also the kind of guy that tells rape victims to get over it.

>>1579626
>You seem to think that an excess amount extreme consequences like school shootings are the only way to stop bullies.

it is normalfags don't learn from anything else or they wouldn't be bullying in first place

ITT: we draw the line on who is truly beta and belongs here and who is a normalfag and should leave for /soc/ or some other shitty board and mourn the loss of those killed

I live like an hour from Chardon.
I can't do shit without hearing about this bull shit.

YOU FAGS SHOULD BE PRAYING NOT ARGUING

DEAR LORD DELIVER US FROM THESE NORMALFAGS amen

>>1579651
>sustain heavy injuries.
is this a fucking game on xbox? do you talk like this in real life?

I'm saying he's fucked in the head. I'm saying when he dies he's going to haunt the school. I'm saying that he might have won that fight, but IS CURRENTLY LOSING AT LIFE BECAUSE HE IS CHOOSING TO DWELL ON WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM LIKE GOD HIMSELF WILL DELIVER JUSTICE.

>>1579660
The term 'normalfag' is overused here like the word 'hipster' is in real life to the point where it means something different to everybody. What does it mean to you, and why do you think that everyone who fits the qualifications of a 'normalfag' is a bully.

>>1579665
we draw this line in every thread but normalfags are too stupid to get it.

>>1579626
Bullying isn't new thing. System has failed to stop it and killing bullies is a good idea. If more died they would learn finally.

do we even know if he killed his bully or not

>>1579410
>ever had the shit kicked out of you for "being the wrong color" or having lunch leftovers pelted at you on the bus for the same reason? No? try enduring it for 7 years
I thought this wasn't a contest.

> all years through grade school
>be chinese, not even chinese enough for the chinese students
>racism and Wh1te pryde!1 everyday for the rest of my schooling
>shitty life at home and school
>beat the shit out of by parents
>beat up by kids at school in different fucking groups, it's not even a joke.
>The whole school is literally on the watch to beat my ass and make racist remarks
>I'm not even human to these people they even tell me that asians aren't humans.
>I'm also a female so really I can't fight against like 6 people
>People I didn't even know tripped me, bash me into lockers, sabotage my stuff and homework.
>Get garbage thrown at me even during fucking class and the teachers don't do shit.
>At gym class they SPIT on me and served volleyballs fucking hard right at my face.
>they even try to burn my fucking hair with a lighter if they sit behind me in class.
>No one wanted to be acquainted with me because they didn't want to be bullied as well.

All at a catholic school god dammit. I just ignored the hell out of it all. I didn't want them to get a reaction from me.

>>1579696
bullies, nah, those were some delicate flowers and he was crazy stoner psycho wow addict emo goth faggot

>>1579687
Not sure if Amerifats are online yet, so I'll just presume you are a chav - no, we don't talk like this in real life, because English isn't our first language. Happy now, degenerate scum?

>>1579721
you know this is an english imageboard, right? why are you fucking shit up with your dirty slav bullshit?

>>1576855
Third is dead as of now.

They're showing his hearing on cnn right now.

>>1579696
>reading your story
>have yellow fever
>imagining real-life mixed race Spaghetti-chan
>feel for her
>whyboner.lisp

*virtual-hug* (if you even want anything like this from an asspie fuckup like me)

>>1579734
>not knowing there are other people in the world besides slavs, Brits and Amerifats
>confirmed for chav (possibly pikey) scum

>>1579694
>Bullying isn't new thing.
No, it's not. I never tried to argue that it was
>System has failed to stop it
School don't churn out killers left and right, bullying is only a small part of what makes troubled youth go apeshit and shoot up a school, and even then, schools don't have full control over what happens to a student, nor should they.
>killing bullies is a good idea
Once again, you sound like an angsty teen. No matter how much you swear you had it bad cause 'hurr durr kids at school call me names', death is not an appropriate punishment for even physical bullying.

I was bullied by people who pretended to be my friends, I hung around with them because if I was alone I was a bigger target to the larger crowd. It was physical and mental, they hid my stuff, beat me and alienated me. It left me pretty hollow and callous, I fought back when it got physical but the alienation that followed made me feel like shit. The school did nothing, I was always the one to get in trouble with the authority when I fought back and the people who bullied me were never dealt.

I dealt with it and it twisted my view of the world, I see the worst in people and feel little to no empathy and cannot trust people. I wasn't like this before school, we are products of our environment and as >>1579535 says I would have happily killed my tormentors if I had the guts at the time.

If I see them now I would happily kill them.

>>1579761
but you ARE a slav

>>1579789
Except that I am not and your grasp of the English language is horrible even for a person speaking it as his mother tongue. And what the fuck is up with your functional reading skills - don't they teach anything besides gender studies at your universities anymore?

I've just tuned into CNN. What have i missed? I'm not American btw.

>>1579784
*schools

>>1579817
This is a pretty simple hearing. They are going to transfer him from juvenile to adult court.

Prosocuter Joce is a cunt.

>>1579837
Why? Is he supposed to not prosecute him because he's a beta faggot?

>>1579853
He killed bullies. That a morally correct thing to do.

>>1579873
The prosecutors job is to make sure the law is upheld in his area.

>>1577225
This.

School administration is abso-fucking-lutely useless.

>Bus is noctorious for LOTS of problems
>kids on bus spit at people walking down the street, throw shit, scream and bully everyone
>Bus is actually stopped and a dude jumps out of his car and fucking curses out the bus driver
>Administration constantly goes on about how they'll solve the problem
>Nothing happens, nothing's dealt with
>Problem continues
>Everyone's complaining
>Nobody still does anything

Apply this to every other situation, it's the same shit.

>>1579813
What I love is how wrong you are and how envious you are of things that happen in English-speaking countries.

I am glad you are able to communicate in the world's greatest language, but you don't know shit about what we value. Also, why don't you just post on your people's sad shitty language? I'm sure you'd fit in there

Is /b/ going to raid the facebook accounts of the family members that died? That would be fucking awesome.

>>1579873
>morally correct
excuse me, your 13-year-old is showing

arguably,the only people that deserve death are those that directly cause it ie. killers.

you are just an angry child. Please leave the real world for the adults please.

I had plans to lock the gym doors at school during a class assembly and then lay fire onto everyone while trowing pipe bombs everywhere.

I live in Canada though so getting an automatic machine gun is impossible

>Total victims to a heart breaking three
LMFAO

>>1579935
Brelik killed 100 people and he lived in gun free europe. Step it up son.

>>1579885

>that feel when school administration eats up a huge amount of money but does nothing

>>1579929
LOL faggot. Your autistic christianity is showing.

some people are evil and should be killed, only someone with normal/happy life wouldn't understand that

>>1579954
In University now, if I still decided to shoot up the school I'd just make sure to kill all the women studies majors, maybe one day

>>1579918
>envious you are of things that happen in English-speaking countries
>envy

I don't think that word means what you think it means, but I'll bite for laughs and presume you meant USA+Canada+UK+AU+NZ:
>rampant feminism and it's consequences - political correctness, affirmative action
>retarded gun laws (USA being the exception, so far)
>unlimited immigration
>most media catering to the plebs

Do tell, what's there to envy? There are very few countries that aren't majorly FUBAR at this point (Switzerland, Germany, Finland, South Korea) and that's just because they have a few of these problems, not all of them.

Does anyone have the names of the victims? I want to shitpost and mock the family members on facebook.

>>1579992
there's a reason why you're speaking english and not your shitty mother tongue:

ALL OF THE THINGS YOU LOVE COME FROM HERE

>>1579963
what does christianity have to do with that viewpoint

you got bullied, boo hoo. that doesn't mean that whoever wronged you should die. Stop being a sensitive bitch.

>>1580010
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/28/us-shooting-ohio-urgent-idUSTRE81Q1AD20120228

god speed

>>1580057
Whats the name of the school this happend at?

>hate america
>visit 4chan that is a generally a place filled by people with American Culture

How retarded are you euros?

>>1580112
Chardon High School in ohio. It's the front story in google news.

Boom HEADSHOT

Headshotblox

It's a nigger. Good. This will be even more fun.

>>1580010
I like how this whole thread started out how bullying is wrong and not it's fully of internet bullies

>>1580147
I hope you have a sock puppet to avoid drowning in buttrage.

>>1580127
It's filled with Japanese and pan-Western culture.

There aren't enough differences between western nations (especially Anglosphere ones) these days for hate, and nationalism is profoundly retarded anyway.

Take that 'yuros' shit back to /sp/ LADBANTER

>>1580147
what you are saying is mean and bullying

i'm going to find you and kill you.

this thread reminds me of a greentext story i havent written

>be in high school
>people whose daughter died from the columbine shooting are talking in the cafeteria
>some bullshit about how she saw her death coming
>think, well what about the other victims?
>the presentation is all about her
>ask about the names of the others
> "lol that doesn't matter they didnt predict there death
>bassically wouldn't give me a strait answer
>say im not gonna honor one dead above any others
>get up and leave
>tfw no one stopped me

mfw these people cant even mention the names of the other kids who died in the presentation, show some damn respect

>>1580165
why do you hate your own people so much? you should be taking an interest in curing the sadness of the shithole in which you live rather than try so hard to be a part of something you are not.

>>1580194
I remember that Rachel's Challenge thing. The whole predicting her death with notebook drawings was straight up fucking retarded, I can't believe they actually taught that as a fact. Made me rage.

>>1580175
I thought you were against killing bullies

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>>1580147
please tell me how you're going to derive satisfaction from posting on a facebook page.

>>1580221
tell that to
>>1579873
>morally correct