Don't worry, the world will end soon enough.

Go back to /new/ faggot

>>11847435
>bigotry against women
>bigotry against homosexuals
>bigotry against Islam
>xenophobia in general
>why won't anyone take us seriously?!?
It's a mystery.

America is made entirely out of immigrants.

Women have always been immoral sluts.

Homosexuality is not some sort of epidemic.

Nor is your masculinity in danger.

Society isn't crumbling, your'e just over reacting.

One man's misfortune is another man's fortune.
>I'll just be over here mopping up all the "empowered and liberated" free pussy from under the noses of my confused and emasculated competitors, evading taxes, bringing success into my life and the lives of those in my favor, and attracting everything that's great because everyone else is too fucked up to stop me.

Just wait 2 years and 2 months and just sit back and watch the apocalypse. No worries.

>>11847459
this anon speaks the truth

DIAF OP

I agreed with you up until you started in with your biased, uneducated, bigoted opinions and began claiming they are facts.

male filth deserve to be exterminated, once we can finally reproduce without males then the perfect society will arise. without males there will be no war, no crime, just the perfection only women can acheive. you have always been obsolete and detrimental man-filth, accept your extinction, it is the only thing you deserve.

I think it all started when we let women vote OP. Seemed reasonable enough, I mean they are god-fearing, and at the time we still had literacy tests and poll taxes to keep the poorest of female mentality out, but it's scientifically proven that women choose security over freedom, and once you start doing that, you get oppression every time, like clockwork.

>>11847459
>bigotry

Orwell rolls in his fucking grave. You really do just repeat newspeak ad nauseum.

What's next?

"Diversity is strength"?

lolololololol

You lost me about 1/3rd in when I realized you're just a buthurt faggot.

While Western civilization is indeed crumbling, i think you mistake for cause what are just symptoms.

>>11847471
>America is made entirely out of immigrants.
Which have eventually integrated into society. Can't say much about the new ones, especially the Muslims...

>Women have always been immoral sluts.
But in the past they were controllable. And then feminism came along and the rest is history.

>Homosexuality is not some sort of epidemic.
Bullshit. Why are there more homosexuals than ever, and at that in the west instead of those backwards nigger countries? And don't give me that "BUT THEY WERE ALWAYS GAY HURR" shit, there's no definitive evidence that homosexuality is in-born.

>Nor is your masculinity in danger.
You ever watch TV? Or go to a large mall? You ever look at those pale skinny-ass men with women's jeans? You tell me if men are still manly these days.

Successful troll is actually right about the first two things.

>>11847511
without males there would be no society, but lucky for you you'll never find out so enjoy your ridiculous little fantasies while being taken care of by male society

Shit changes, bro. You've just gotta learn how to deal. It's funny how you talk about self-reliance, and then proceed to blame everything else for what's wrong.

you should check out plato, spengler, nietzsche

basically things like individualism, cosmopolitanism, democracy, socialism, consumerism, materialism, hedonism are all symptomatic of an ailing society. declining public morals, lack of civic pride, etc. all coincide as the national/ethnic spirit loses significance.

there's a good quote by huxley too:

>City life is anonymous, and, as it were, abstract. People are related to one another, not as total personalities, but as the embodiments of economic functions or, when they are not at work, as irresponsible seekers of entertainment. Subjected to this kind of life, individuals tend to feel lonely and insignificant. Their existence ceases to have any point or meaning.

sort of resonates with nietzsche's idea of the "last man" imho

>>11847447
i think we'll probably wipe out a lot of historic cities, kill 30-60% of the world's population, ruin most of our natural resources, and endure another dark age, but the species will probably survive. even a nuclear winter might not do it.

>>11847511
In the very same way agnostics and atheists will coexist peacefully if theists are wiped out, amirite?

Humans will find something, anything, to fight about. It's not just men, you dumb broad.

>>11847558
In what world is homosexuality bigger than ever?
Do you know fucking nothing about history? Oh, stupid question since you are talking about decline and all kinds of other bullshit.

>>11847558
>Which have eventually integrated into society.
Have you ever been to New York City?

>But in the past they were controllable.
Only because it was basically legal to treat them like animals. Granted, they are animals..

>Bullshit.
Because about 1 in every 25 males are homosexual and the more people there are, the more homosexuals there are?

>You ever watch TV?
I hardly think that how they choose to dress defines their masculinity. Look at the Scots. They wear skirts and still bleed testosterone.

>>11847511

Why are feminist so delusional?

I mean seriously, from what intellectual and political minds do you think the core advancements of society came from? Certainly not from women. The only thing your gender has even remotely accomplished is the liberation of its own oppression.

Children are told they're special because being told that they're going to be meaningless wage-slaves and cogs in a machine they hate would be counterproductive. And would probably go above their heads.

The state of welfare is a bit of a touchy subject; the problem is that people who genuinely need help tend not to be able to get it while people who are just lazy get it easily. I don't think people should be able to mooch without just cause, but it's better to have a few moochers than deprive honestly sick people of help.

"National identity" is bullshit.

Feminism isn't encroaching upon anything. Feminists are apeshit.

There is no universal difference between genders other than basic biological defaults. The only factor that need be taken into consideration for leadership is competence.

Sexual depravity? You're going to bitch about 'sexual depravity' on 4chan?

If a person favors homosexual activity over heterosexual activity, it is his right, and no one is justified in condemning him for it.

There are no universal "values of manhood."

>>11847589
>Have you ever been to New York City?
Yes. It's a horrible festering pile of garbage and shit. By the way, you ever been to Tokyo?

>Only because it was basically legal to treat them like animals. Granted, they are animals..
So you basically agree with me on that issue. Good for you.

>Because about 1 in every 25 males are homosexual and the more people there are, the more homosexuals there are?
And yet as I said, homosexuality is most prevalent in the west. Which happens to be the place where they're most accepted.

No one alive today will see the end of society so stop giving a shit and live it up.


FUCK THE NEXT GENERATION

>>11847706
Yes, I lived in Tokyo and Kyoto for a few months. The amount of men trying to be women is rather astounding there.
My point was, they don't just "become" Americans, they live in America but always still cling to their old nationalities.

Homosexuality is so prevalent in the western countries because everyone makes a big deal out of it there.

OP, ignore the lefties and listen to a kindred spirit.

Have you ever read Julius Evola? Give "Revolt Against the Modern World" a read.

>>11847701
>Feminism isn't encroaching upon anything
>mfw divorce cases end 90% of the time with the woman getting everything
>mfw women are never guilty of false rape charges

Wurst thread on /r9k/

Butthurt leftist tears are so delicious.

>>11847435

simple question?
what's bad about homosexuality? it opposes your pointless beliefs? thats indeed baaaad

lol, have you seen pictures of men in the 18th century? That's when wigs, blush, and hosiery were considered manly.

>>11847837
yet you cant even refute
>>11847701

I have read Evola. The amount of butthurt that he spews is quite comical. "Oh noes, brown people and women actually have power!" "I can't own slaves, burn fags, or beat my wife anymore! Oh the humanity!"
lol

>>11847840
Oh, I don't know, shit like THIS?

Incidentally, fun fact: In the 1970's NAMBLA was actually suppported by a sizable amount of gays, including Allen Ginsberg. The only reason they're outcasts in the "gay community" nowadays is because they'd give a bad image to homosexuals (as if they didn't have one already). No objections at all about morals or children not getting fucked up in the head. They were totally complicit before then.

/r9k/: scared white manchildren

Homos have been around since the dawn of time. Good luck getting rid of them

>>11847919
Because all gays do that right? Derp.

>>11847919

tl;dr man
you have one sentence!
and even the fact that homosexuals supported GAMBLA is no reason to per se condemn homosexuality as a principle.

>>11847970
It's not the end of the journey, but the process. Whether you're making a great work of art or killing millions and millions of people, it's appreciating the act itself, rather than the end, that brings happiness.

>>11847995
>supporting a bunch of boy-molesters doesn't make gays bad
>whatthefuckamireading.jpg

>>11847960
You: lazy butthurt brown

>Supporting boy-molesters

Tell that to the Catholic church

>>11847530
Orwell was a socialist, he rolls in his grave at you misunderstanding his ideals.

>OP hates Muslims
>mfw they "keep women in line"
You can't have both, cunt.

>>11847919

posting this picture on 4chan - the world biggest interactive collection of heterosexual counterparts of these stories - to bedevil homos is so utterly stupid that I can't put it to words..
get a doctor and ask him to count your fucking chromosomes

>>11847919
>Implying bugchasing isn't done by heterosexuals.

>>11848041
oh that must be why he wrote two world-famous books about how horrible socialism is

>butthurt brown

The only butthurt I see in this thread is coming from whites with entitlement and self-esteem issues.

>>11848043
sure they keep them in line, but they're also a lot of sharia laws they practice and will bring to the west, also muslims stealing dem white wimmens

>oh that must be why he wrote two world-famous books about how horrible authoritarianism is

Fixed

>>11848062
>implying that's what he wrote them for
Did you drop out of high school?

>>11848062

facepalm.jpg

read "Homage to Catalonia" you faggot.

>>11848065
nope these are all valid problems, a shame we can't discuss them openly for fear of being ostracized and ignored, I'd love nothing more than to deport you lazy fucks back to wherever you came

>>11848062
He wrote books about the bastardization of socialism when it is hijacked by fascists. Christ you are dumb.

"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism"
- George Orwell, Why I Write

>>11848028

learn to read you mongoloid

>>11848073
But why is that bad if Muslims look down upon gays and limit womens' rights?

>>11847874
>I am a leftist
>I believe my paradigms are destined to last forever, when in fact they register as a tiny blip in history and even the racial victim groups I use to attack and erode the white majority don't believe in them

No, you haven't read Evola. The average American Leftist has read a few Michael Moore books and Jon Jewart's biography, that's about it.

>>11848078
>implying socialism isn't authoritarian by nature
sure is bolshevik revolution in here

Your "ideas" are ostracized and ignored because they are irrational, delusional, implausible, and only apply to people who feel victimized. Not to mention they unpalatable to most modern westerners.

>>11848106
I don't know about you but I don't want to be forced to practice a religion I wish to have no part in. If I dont I would be killed or have to live life as a second class citizen, fuck that.

>>11848106
>no eating pork
>no alcohol
>can't fuck women until you're married (you'll get stoned)
>have to believe in a bullshit sky-daddy and his pedophile prophet

>>11848041
Orwell wasn't a socialist in the sense you're thinking, in fact he was an outcast even within British leftist establishments because he just lost all faith in them. Best comparison for Orwell would be the early communal socialists in early 19th century Europe, before the kike Marx came along.

And I don't think trying to prevent debate with 'hate speech' or 'incitement to religious hatred' bills would really have tallied with his ideals pal.

Go back to watching The Daily Show.

>>11848118
see
>>11848093

Regardless of what you believe, Orwell did not share your beliefs and using him to qualify them demonstrates ignorance.

>>11848078
>Authoritarianism

In a very specific mould. The point of Orwell is that he presents the propaganda system in 1984 as a series of ironic inversions.

The phrase 'diversity is strength' is just another example.

It makes absolutely no sense, just like 'war is peace' it's a total non-sequitur with no substantiation behind it.

>>11848160
>democratic socialism
Doesn't that win the Oxymoron Award of the Century?

>>11848106
It's odd really. People like OP have no problem with Fascism, but if it's brown people that bring that fascism to a country, they go apeshit.

>the racial victim groups I use to attack and erode the white majority

Ah yes, conspiracy theory, the last refuge of the proto-fascist. GTFO, and stop whining

>>11848145
Speaking of Marx, what's funny is he was also against immigration and trade with other cultures because he thought it diluted his own culture and was adamantly against globalization. Seems like you two have a little in common.

>>11848133
But its ok to make women and gays second class citizens.

>>11848093
>bastardization of socialism

Wrong. SU was 'crude communism', read Marx's economic manuscripts. It falls perfectly in line with Marxian dialectic materialism.

1977, in case you're interested

>>11848173
Only if you don't understand that government and economic systems are two separate things.

>>11848182
It's because White people do it better. That is all.

oh buddha please forgive me

>>11848182
What a shocker! People don't want to be ruled by an outside group of people!

in other words, white people don't want to be told what to do and how to behave in their personal life by muslims

>>11848208
guess it depends on how extensively a given government manipulates its economy

> children being taught they are "special"

I *am* special though, OP. I regularly compose philosophical works and I spend a great deal of time contemplating life, usually on long walks or in deep meditation.

I just beat 93% of the people you just generalized.

haters gonna hate.

>>11848187
>conspiracy theory
>1965 immigration act was never rescinded
>jewish activists were never responsible for this
>ADL and SPLC were never instrumental in getting the first AA bills passed
>ADL doesn't form bonds with hispanic groups to protect Jewish interests, by Abraham Foxman's own admission

Wow. Just wow...

You're a Trotskyist commie aren't you? The internationalist type?

>>11848192
>his own culture

Kikery had a solidifed culture in Europe?

I think not pal. There was no 'mass immigration' at that time anyway.

Marx was a lunatic, and trying to divorce him from the left is pitiful.

epsilon delta plus

serious words from serious dudes

>>11848227
Barely passing your bullshit Philosophy 101 class and being a hipster faggot doesn't make you special. Please inhale some hydrogen cyanide.

>>11848196

socialism =/= marxism

>>11847571

>you should check out plato, spengler, nietzsche

Yes, to get their OPINIONS on these issues. Noe of them could have even imagined the world we now live in.

>>basically things like individualism, cosmopolitanism, democracy, socialism, consumerism, materialism, hedonism are all symptomatic of an ailing society. declining public morals, lack of civic pride, etc. all coincide as the national/ethnic spirit loses significance.

And we move on and chnage and ghrow and adapt and survive. The human sory is not some static image.

The only constant is change and the best attitude to have is one of acceptance. Not everybody thinks like you, and as time goes on and generations separate, the rift gets wider and wider. Shit will all work out.

Do you WANT to be a bitter old hateful person?

>>11848219
>in other words, people don't want to be told what to do and how to behave in their personal life by christfags and people with the same though process as them

>>11848252
Actually, those were interchangeable terms until the postwar period.

It's true though, there were European socialists in the 1820s and onwards, before Marx came around, but they were really nothing like him. As I said, the only leftist who could be compared to them from modernity is Orwell.

>>11848252
call it what you want, socialism/marxism/communism/ any leftist ideology is basically about the forced redistribution of wealth, which is undeniably authoritarian.

>>11848269
>grow

Modern breeding patterns are dysgenic. The least intelligent races and classes breed fastest.

Truth!
The radical traditionalists will never understand this, though, and become bitter like Spengler.

>>11848279
We don't want that either. What's your point?

>>11848231
Read the Manifesto of the Communist Party, I love how you keep arguing the documented ideals of historical figures, as if your bullshit conjecture is worth more than writings of the people in question.

Thinks he is something special.

Eugenics is egoism run amock. You think humanity should be controlled, as long as you are one of the controllers.

So people having the stones to speak up for the disenfranchised amounts to a conspiracy? lol, you white nationalist fascists are funny

>>11848314
Uh, I've read the planks of the Communist Manifesto you silly little suburban shitstain, please point out where it talks about the preservation of traditional German culture. That was the nationality Marx masqueraded under, right? Like the Jewess Rosa Luxembourg did?

>>11848318
Wrong, leftism is ego run amok.

What do you think a rejection of your own race and people, and priortizing of another race and people above your own is if not a 'hahaha! I'm so morally altruistic and superior to all you peons' egomania?

>>11848332
>disenfranchised

From having what exactly?

Official racial discrimination laws to enable them to get into university more easily than any other race?

Or from keeping undesirable, unproductive, shitty people out of White countries?

In before 'immigration doesn't cause crime!'

If it doesn't, then go and live in a Haitian or Black African immigrant majority area. Go on then, do it, that's the logical step of a diversity monger if he wants more 'integration'.

Socialism and Communism would never work because of simple human greed, therefore producing people screaming about authoritarianism.

There can never be a true lesser of two evils.

But OP? Values of manhood? Please define these.

>>11848293

Yes, but which survive? Those which adapt best to the world they live in. Who defines acceptable intelligence levels in order to reproduce? Who enforces this? Why? Do you have ANY desire to chase your conjecture all the way down the rabbit hole?

>>11848283

What about the Fabians, what about Russell, what about the left-anarchists and anarcho-syndicalists? Although most socialists where indeed marxist, there are some more exceptions. We most importantly shouldn't forget the post-marxist social democratic parties.

>>11848337
>Like the Jewess Rosa Luxembourg did?
>Jewess

After reading Maus for the first time today, you have no idea how much reading that disturbed me.

>>11848337

We are all the same fucking race *and* people, fucktard, as much as I wish you were not part of this collective, you are.

What an asshole.

>rejection of your own race and people
>prioritizing of another race and people above your own

implying people are not individuals with their own priorities, preferences, and desires.

>>11848397
And then holocaust denial in 3... 2... 1...

>>11848379
>Who defines acceptable intelligence levels in order to reproduce? Who enforces this? Why? Do you have ANY desire to chase your conjecture all the way down the rabbit hole?

Conjecture?

As it stands welfare states encourage the middle class to have few children, and poor subhuman niggers to have as many as they want. The state is -already- encouraging system dependents to have more children at the expense of productive members of society:

>"The best self-interest of the Black community is for it to have its numbers. I could not support a position that would decrease our numbers. In some in-stances, this is what Darwin was talking about, the name of the game is just to be there in the future."

- Morris Jeff, President of the National Association of Black Social Workers.

And as for Africa's artificially high population and birth rate, don't get me started... That's all caused by fucking retarded lefties in MSF and the WFP. Sooner or later they're going to have a Malthusian catastrophe of epic proportions on their hands.

>>11848390
I direct you to the Zapatista communities in southern Mexico, socialist communities, living autonomously. they're a living example of socialist libertarianism... I've been there to check it out, they really make shit work

>>11848390
Russell was a notorious racial realist, I actually like him quite a bit.

Orwell had a falling out with the Fabians for this very reason.

>left anarchist and anarcho syndicalists

I like Bakunin, he was a mild eugenicist, but believed it should be applied to all classes. I loathe Chomsky, he's just a fucking duplicitous liar.

>social democratic parties

Sordid little Cultural Marxist fuckwits who hate European Culture and European Institutions and love anything non-European.

>>11848421

there is by the way no evidence in modern biology for the concept of human races..

>>11848397
I guess the propaganda did it's job then.

Jews are just poor little victims, it's not like the NKVD was staffed by large numbers of Jewish Kommisars who were behind the Katyn Forest Massacre and the forced famine in the Ukraine, right?

All those nations that have thrown them out over the past 4000 years just did it for absolutely no reason.

I SAY WE JUST KILL ALL THE NIGGERS AND JEWS AND THE GOOKS AND PUT ALL WOMEN BACK IN THE KITCHEN AMIRITE

>>11848445
>National Association of Black Social Workers
>the fucking state
Are you even thinking as you're writing your drivel?

>As it stands welfare states encourage the middle class to have few children
Source for this mularkey?

"It is not necessarily the strongest who survive, nor the most intelligent, but those who are most adaptive to change" - Charles Darwin

>>11848429
Listen fuckstick, take a look around you. Every other racial group in the United States is engaging in racial politics, except you dumb White liberals. They're taking you to the fucking cleaners and laughing about it, and you just stand there pompously asserting you have the moral high ground because you're "color blind" or some shit.

When are you going to wake up? When you're 20% of the US population? Will it be ok for Whites to have pride and advocacy groups of their own then? How about 2%?

>>11848445

what exactly makes a 'nigger' 'subhuman'?

opinions of people like you? so there is no chance of theses *human beings* growing into something beneficial and uplifting their communities and their place in society? they're just pond scum to be wiped out? Hitler already tried that and the world disagreed with him slightly.

>>11848421
>We're all the same fucking race *and* people

See my above post, also, you are wrong. There are readily identifiable clusters of points, corresponding to traditional continental ethnic groups: Europeans, Africans, Asians, Native Americans, etc. (See, for example, Risch et al., Am. J. Hum. Genet. 76:268-275, 2005.). This clustering is a natural consequence of geographical isolation, inheritance and natural selection operating over the last 50k years since humans left Africa. Two groups that form distinct clusters are likely to exhibit different frequency distributions over various genes, leading to group differences.

>national identity being muddied up due to immigration (especially in Europe, where secularism is in danger of being replaced by Islamic Sharia)

Wtf? Really? The Jews have taught you well

The only thing that muddied your national identity was your absolute garbage dead end feminist culture

>>11848522
>When you're 20% of the US population?
And this is a bad thing? Why?

inb4 unsourced non peer reviewed racialist bullshit

>it's not like the NKVD was staffed by large numbers of Jewish Kommisars

Yeah, the Caucasian Kommisars didn't have any input

I am so tired of these pathetic heterosexuals

learn to evolve

>>11848470
Wrong. Sorry. Non-superficial traits take no more time to evolve than superficial traits do in genetics.

>>11848522

What about asians?

>>11848525
>what exactly makes a nigger subhuman

Genetic propensity towards violence and stupidity.

>growing into something beneficial

They've been given a few thousand years.

>>11848491
Apparently the Katyn Forest Massacre was based on this guys proposal.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavrentiy_Beria
>Nationality: Georgian
>Religion: Georgian Orthodox
Jew? I don't think so Tim.

>>11848531
>implying sand niggers and sharia is any better than jews

>>11848558

Hey dude I want to take you to compton where you can espouse your views to the poor as fuck people living there

I think they'd love you

ITT

memetics=genetics

>>11848558

yeah bro, because there's scientific evidence that people with african genetics are predisposed to violence and lower average IQ. sure. you just keep on thinking that

>>11848571

Yeah 1-5% of the population isn't going to do anything, all you need to do is put your damn foot down and tell them NO SHARIA LAW, and enforce it.

Kill the dissenters

This is coming from a muslim. 5% of the population (especially when not all 5% agree with each other) isn't hard to counter if you just put your damn foot down.

>Genetic propensity towards violence and stupidity.
2 world wars started by whites (even though you will say Jews, lol)
I guess Whites have a "genetic predisposition" to imperialism and genocide then. How about atomic warfare and environmental degradation?

lrn2logic

>>11848555
There are some Asians who play racial politics, but not many from what I've noticed. Which is why they get slapped around almost as much as Whites (Black on Asian violence, getting screwed over in university admissions etc).

They seem to be developing some racial advocacy groups though.

>>11848537
Kaganovich, Yagoda and Yezhov were all Jews, and all three of them were the top ranking men in the NKVD and for the Ukrainian region respectively.

>>11848532
>And this is a bad thing why?

You really think Latinos and Blacks will treat you as nicely as idiots like you treat them?

You really think the US standard of living will be the same with an 80% black and hispanic population?

You're fucking insane. Truly insane.

>>11848601
>You really think the US standard of living will be the same with an 80% black and hispanic population?
Probably, seeing as the 1% of people who have real power in America and Europe are mostly whites. I don't see that changing any time soon.

>>11848587
There is, they have a lower distributed of CTSD and CHRM2 gene variants on HapMap groupings, transracial adoption studies and twin adoption studies confirm the heritability of intelligence, and androgen research has revealed a genetic basis behind violence and aggression that has racial connotations.

>>11848596
Don't confuse efficiency at killing with willingness to kill. Niggers kill each other by the te

>environmental degredation

Like how the Haitians destroyed the most fertile island in the Carribean by deforestation, without any industry to help them do it?

>>11848526

There are genetic differences between geographically separated human populations (see HapMap).
But that doesn't per se means there are human races.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1275602/?tool=pmcentrez

>>11848565
>Founder of USSR Jewish Anti-Fascist League

LOL. Yeah, he wasn't a jew, of course not....

>>11848546

Read the fucking literature, bro.

>>11848640

Who do you think was buying the shit and funded them?

>>11848601
Western Belarus also played a part.

So tell me the top ranking officials in Belarus?

As it stands, the date was in 1940, when this took place. The fact that Germany AND Russia had both taken parts of Polish territory (Russians were back stabbing) and that the USSR had control of Belarus and Ukraine at the time means nothing to you? Jesus fuck, learn to place things within a timeline.

>Look around you, society is crumbling

mfw we live in the most prosperous and peaceful period in all human history.

Reading that really makes me glad I don't live in England/that part of Europe and what it's becoming.

>Haiti
Are you kidding? The foreign wood and paper industries did most of that with the blessing of Haiti's puppet government. The huge removal of foliage caused the soil to erode massively.

>Don't confuse efficiency at killing with willingness to kill.
way to evade the point. Cortes and Pizarro destroyed 2 civilizations over gold.

>>11848680
>worldwide recession
>two wars in middle east
>implying that's prosperous and peaceful

>>11848710

blame the niggers!!!

Get off the internet, grandpa. I know you don't like change already.

>>11848690
i thought that picture was of a juggalo faggot...

i agree with OP so much.

look at these motherfuckers in society. everybody is having fucking children what is with that fucking shit? why is it that you can just create people? holy fuck some people should be payed to not have kids, some people should be payed to have kids.

health care should be banned, everything except for trauma surgery. diseases will get phased out and all the gays will die of aids like they should.

every system in place has just stopped evolving. we are born into a lifestlye and all told to conform to such a specific path.

i want there to be a nuclear holocaust during my lifetime. i want to watch everybody die. i will survive. i will wander the wasteland being an anti-hero acquiring a massive following. i am 6'5'' 220lbs, look like some type of aryan god king, people would follow me. i would rise up and mercilessly destroy anybody who stepped to me.

>>11848662
>Founder of USSR Jewish Anti-Fascist League
Show me where the fuck it says that. in fact, copy and paste it to me.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Anti-Fascist_Committee
http://www.friends-partners.org/partners/beyond-the-pale/english/61.html

>>11848756
>i am 6'5'' 220lbs, look like some type of aryan god king

>>11848710
re-read it as a cynical outlook on the future

>>11848710

>implying those minor issues contradict my point

Compared to the rest of human history, a larger proportion of the population lives in peace and comfort than ever before.

Sorry, apocalyptic doomsayers, life is better than ever for more people than ever.

>>11848665
I have. The claim that there has not been enough time for evolution to act on non-superficial traits is not scientific. First because nonsuperficial traits take no more time to evolve than superficial traits. More importantly, reasonable selection parameters allow for significant differences to arise between populations in 100 years, much less 100,000. Richard Lynn argues that genetics account for 1.3 SD in intelligence between sub-Saharan Africans and Europeans. Genetic anthropologist Henry Harpending illustrates how a 1 SD difference in a hypothetical trait, with a lower additive heritability than intelligence, could evolve in 500 years:

>Assume time preference has an additive heritability of 25%. Assume that everyone with time preference more than 1 sd above the mean of the distribution has double the fitness of everyone else. About 16% of the population then has twice the number of offspring as everyone else on average.

>After a generation of reproduction the new mean time preference will be increased by (0.2 * .25) or 5% of a standard deviation. In 20 generations, 500 years, time preference should go up by a full standard deviation.

http://scienceblogs.com/gnxp/2007/08/how_fast_do_gene_frequencies_c.php

See also Cochran and Harpending's work on this.

http://homepage.mac.com/harpend/.Public/AshkenaziIQ.jbiosocsci.pdf

Also, Meisenberg put it this way:

>... the argument that the 100,000 years or so since the dispersal out of Africa were insufficient for the evolution of genetic differences is invalid. To create an IQ difference of, say, 15 points between two populations in 100,000 years, natural selection would have to drive their IQs apart by only 0.004 points every generation - about 1% of the selective pressure in late 20th-century America

http://www.mankindquarterly.org/winter2003_meisenberg.pdf

>>11848640
cite your sources and explain how the research applies to your claim that africans are more prone to violence and lower IQ, because it sounds to me like you are drawing conclusions that the research doesn't necessarily support

i've done jail time (genius level IQ) and the black people i met there were a hell of a lot smarter than the average white guy.

>>11848708
>Are you kidding? The foreign wood and paper industries did most of that with the blessing of Haiti's puppet government.

According to lefties like you, African failure for the past 10,000 years is due to 'corrupt governments' or 'corrupt leaders' or 'endemic tribal warfare' etc.

It really boggles the mind how you can identify all the symptoms but completely ignore the ultimate cause.

>Cortes and Pizarro
>killed

In law, you must prove mens rea in order to demonstrate intent. Where is the mens rea in accidentally spreading a disease?

Also, gg at using the Southern Amerindians as an example. They were really peaceful, right? lol. With tens if not hundreds of human sacrifices a year.

>>11848805
We already have genetic explanations for why blacks are more violent than other races.

At one end of the androgen receptor gene, which is alternatively labeled AR or NR3C4, there are varying amounts of the trinucleotide repeats CAG and GGC. Blacks possess less of these CAG repeats.

Fewer CAG repeats causes increased transactivation of the receptor (meaning that the receptor became more activated to increase gene expression), see the research here:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8065934

Cortisol responses are another area that highlight racial differences in behavior. a new study by Way and Taylor has found that the short allele of 5-HTTLPR causes increased cortisol responses to a perceived social threat provided by the Trier Social Stress Test.

http://www.journals.elsevierhealth.com/periodicals/bps/article/PIIS0006322309012724/abstract

Also, a new study by Armbruster et al found that the 7R allele of DRD4 causes lower cortisol responses and that this allele interacted with the long allele of 5-HTTLPR to lower cortisol response to social stress.

http://www.citeulike.org/group/6880/article/6445652

Beaver et al determined that African-Americans have significantly more 7R alleles than whites. The possibility that low cortisol levels in African Americans could be partly genetic has important implications for research on the genetics of violence.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1913922/pdf/1744-9081-3-30.pdf

>>11848805
>jail time
>genius level IQ
>smart black people

>>11848756

we should ban trauma surgery as well. such a measure will diminish the stupid, the careless and the clumsy (and the osteoporotic!!).

>>11848805
Indeed, in 2008 Rajender et al determined that male control subjects average 21.19 repeats, rapists average 18.44 repeats, murderers average 17.59 repeats, and men who murder after they finish raping average 17.31 repeats.

http://www.springerlink.com/content/50x2125530hku64l/fulltext.pdf?page=1

The shortest repeat lengths are associated with a higher degree of violence, earlier criminal records, verbal aggression, assertive personalities, extraversion, neuroticism, and self-transcendence (mystical tendencies).

http://journals.lww.com/psychgenetics/Fulltext/2001/03000/Androgen_receptor_trinucleotide_repeat.4.a
spx

Sjoberg et al proved that higher testosterone levels increased aggressive tendencies in males with the 3R allele that is the most common MAOA allele in black people but did not increase aggression in males with the 4R allele that is the most common MAOA allele in whites.

http://www.nature.com/npp/journal/v33/n2/pdf/1301417a.pdf

>To summarize, African Americans have fewer CAG repeats in the androgen receptor gene, which somehow increases testosterone spikes. Higher testosterone decreases MAOA enzyme levels in those with the 3-repeat allele. Plus, androgen receptor alleles with fewer CAG repeats beget more androgen receptor activity. These receptors translocate to the cell nucleus and down-regulate the MAOA gene. African Americans likely have a significant genetic component to their lower baseline cortisol levels and lower cortisol spikes in response to threats. This further allows higher testosterone levels and decreases MAOA levels directly.

>>11848794
and wikipedia says...

In a critical review of The Bell Curve, psychologist Leon Kamin faulted Lynn for disregarding scientific objectivity, misrepresenting data, and for racism. Kamin argues that the studies of cognitive ability of Africans in Lynn's meta-analysis cited by Herrnstein and Murray show strong cultural bias. Kamin also reproached Lynn for concocting IQ values from test scores that have no correlation to IQ. Kamin also notes that Lynn excluded a study that found no difference in White and Black performance, and ignored the results of a study which showed Black scores were higher than White scores.

sounds like your sources are guilty of what you're guilty of - misrepresenting data and twisting analysis of it to your own ends :|

i hate all you fucking douchbags to, fucking psuedo intellectuals. a fucking free online IQ test told you you were a 'genius' so now you fucking sit around no job fucking sucking your own goddamn motherfucking cocksucking dick.

you fucking idiots are apart of a league of morons i have been fighting my whole life. is there anybody like me in the world?

i wish to fuck i was born in england, 1400's. i would go around skullfucking every cocksucker in the world. my wikipedia article would be goddamn fucking 30 pages long.

fucking the information age.

>>11848864
Alright, so you found a character assassination of Lynn online when his study of worldwide IQs is the most exhaustive in human history. What exactly does that demonstrate? Furthermore, what does that prove about Harpending, Cochran or Meisenberg's work on human evolution?

>n law, you must prove mens rea in order to demonstrate intent.

3 words Indian Removal Act
The catholic church deliberately spread smallpox amongst North American tribes.

So Pizarro executing Atahualpa even though the Inca paid his ransom didn't happen?

>They were really peaceful, right?
I never said they were

Africans choosing to live in their tribal ways is not indicative of failure. As a matter of fact, they have stood by their traditions a lot better than Europeans have!

>>11848910
i guarantee yyou are
>fat
>unshaven
>ungroomed
>shitty in school
>lazy faggot
>proud of procrastinating
>hang out with girls with colored hair
>play magic
>playing fucking world of suckmydickcraft
>fat
>read the huffington post
>piece of shit

and you can go ahead and say 'lol i am a fucking athlete i am fucking coo lol u mad?' but you know i am right you fat fuck kill yourself. do it. fucking do it.

>>11847435
>homosexuality on the rise and unchecked by society, also seeping into mainstream media
I don't think there's more gay people. But gay people are being more open about their sexuality. Why do you think that is a bad thing? Can you give even one valid reason?

I'm gay. I was surrounded by homophobia growing up, and I don't think other people should have to go through what I did.

>>11848907
>>11848910

OK, well, enlighten us with your solution. I can't *WAIT*

>>11848794
>>11848844
>>11848857

thanks for citing your evidence from some suspicious blogs (with reference). you are a real freethinker

Believes that human ability can be condensed into a 3 digit number

>>11848940
>As a matter of fact, they have stood by their traditions a lot better than Europeans have!

Appeal to Tradition.

inafter misogyny.

>>11848971
what's wrong with being gay

>you started aids, i actually still call it GRID. which it was called until faggots go upset
>bathhouses.
>obnoxious as fuck.
>i threw a bannana at a faggot in high school and he killed himself the next day i guess

never really admitted the last point but i just realized how little i care.

>>11848940
The smallpox blankets story is a myth. Not a single death is recorded from smallpox infected blankets, nor is there a single shred of documentary evidence.

And from the time Norsemen landed at L'Anse Aux Meadows, Indians attacked Europeans attempting to drive us off. They attacked Frobisher in the north. They attempted to wipe out all the Maine settlers. "Peaceful Arawaks" killed Spaniard colonists. The colony at Roanoke, destroyed by Indians. They tried to raid and kill settlers all across the Eastern sea-board, torturing missionaries. They made raids on distant outports on the Western frontier. Historians barely recognize these Indian atrocities. I've got my own people to mourn before I start feeling back for the would-be conqueror Indians.

They fought us. We fought them. I must say, for all the conquered peoples of this Earth, the Indians are damn lucky it was Whites who conquered them. Just ask the Amorites, or Asia Minor Greeks, or Anatolian Armenians. They didn't get wel-fare, free education, housing, and a whole bunch of books and professors harping their sad song.

It was a war, and we won.

>So Pizarro executing Atahualpa even though the Inca paid his ransom didn't happen?

Atahualpa was a vicious murderous bastard, which was why half of his people united with the Spanish in the first place.

>Africans choosing to live in their tribal ways is not indicative of failure.
>choosing

So they made a choice between developing cultivation of the seed and civilization and a nomadic lifestyle?

They made a conscious choice to choose the former?

Are you stupid?

> As a matter of fact, they have stood by their traditions a lot better than Europeans have!

Necklacing I guess is a good example.

But they don't have any traditions beyond shit bug cuisine, shit percussion music and shitty spear chucking.

In before you get mad. Oh wait, you already are.

>>11848910
>when his study of worldwide IQs is the most exhaustive in human history
Classic appeal to authority. It doesn't matter if he fucked up his methodology and made shit up on this one issue we're talking about. If he did all this other stuff we can trust him anytime! Woo! Woo!

Tell me what is wrong with these people living a tribal lifestyle?

You were the one all butthurt that Europeans have not kept their cultural traditions alive, yet call my point an "appeal to Tradition"?

>>11848993
>springerlink
>lww
>nature.com
>gnxp
>suspicious

lolwut?

>>11848956
Mad as hell. I'm not even American.

>>11848971
Have you ever heard of the Unreliable Narrator? Cos you're doing a pretty good job being one.

>>11849039
who said anything about american you cunty bastard? do you think you could beat me in a fight? no. i would drag you into the woods and beat you to death with my fists.

>>11849024
>fucked up his methodology

Odd how every single subsequent independent IQ test for racial groups backs up his averages huh?

105 for northeast asians
100 for whites
85 for US blacks
70 for African blacks

I mean, if he was so wrong, why aren't independent survey teams finding blacks in Mozambique with IQs of 100+?

Either it was some lucky fluke, or Lynn was just plain right.

And you still haven't answered my question.

>>11849038
>Europeans have not kept their cultural traditions alive

Except we have, it's just that they're so fucking ubiquitous and universal that you don't notice them. Look at Classical Music for example.

>>11849024
yes!! this anon hit the nail on the head. OP is ignoring the negative information available about the people he's citing - namely that they're probably a bunch of racist jerks - because their research gives his claim some semblance of legitimacy. lrn2methodological rigor


and with that i suggest we stop posting in this thread

>Crusades
>The world is fucked & is ending soon


>WWII
>The World is fucked and is ending soon

>Elvis
>The world is fucked and is ending soon


>Sexual revolution
>The world is fucked and is ending soon

Classic egoism: Why wouldn't people want do things the way I do? It's obviously so much better!

I'm not mad, just intrigued.

>>11849089
>People he's citing

You cited Richard fucking Lewontin.

And for the last time, what is wrong with Harpending, Cochran or Meisenberg's research? That's the meat of the issue here.

>sexual revolution?

faggots in society coming out and not being executed is not on par with WWII you deluded faggot.

you aids baring mudblood still get killed in like 50 different countries.

If they're so alive and ubiquitous, then why is there so much bitching in this thread about western civilization dying?

>>11849019
>shit percussion music
Which inspired composers as high-profile as Gyorgy Ligeti.

Seriously, do you even read about what you're blabbering about?

>>11849019

there's no way you could refute the atrocities that the spaniards committed upon the people of the caribbean islands and of central and south america. they massacred, tortured, raped, and enslaved every native american they could get their hands on. sorry bro, it happened, and it was more brutal than any of us could possibly comprehend

>>11849167
>high profile
>Ligeti

Are you niggers seriously trying to take credit for European Classical now?

In any event, I'm not close minded, I'm meritocratic - Indian and Chinese Classical has some good stuff, but nigger music is just plain fucking garbage.

>>11849039

I skimmed all these papers. None of the writers actually derived the conclusions which you provide here. Instead they are copied and pasted from:

http://theunsilencedscience.blogspot.com/
http://www.gnxp.com/blog/2007/10/james-watson-tells-inconvenient-truth_296.php

I'm in biomedicine myself and I hate people fucking around with my papers.

>>11849017
>you started aids, i actually still call it GRID. which it was called until faggots go upset
AIDS came from the CIA.
>bathhouses.
Um... What? I want a bathhouse.
>obnoxious as fuck.
There are obnoxious heterosexual people, too. I'm guessing you mean flamboyant. Flamboyant guys are adorable. If you don't like them, well, no one is asking you to befriend them. You are being asked to be tolerant, though.
>i threw a bannana at a faggot in high school and he killed himself the next day i guess
You didn't kill him alone. You and probably a dozen other people drove him to kill himself. And everyone else around the world who thinks it is okay to tell gay kids they are abominations, they are going to Hell, they are mistakes, they are mentally deranged, and so forth.

>>11849055
>Have you ever heard of the Unreliable Narrator? Cos you're doing a pretty good job being one.
So, because I'm gay, I'm not allowed to have an opinion on society's acceptance of gay people? That makes no sense.
Exactly what do you mean?

Alright, let me clean this shit thread up. Op your right, fo the most part but sadly that's history. As a Historian (Masters in History BU) that's how Empires collapse - nothing lasts forever say cultural diffusion. In terms of racial intelligence it is for the most part bullshit. IQ really is a mythical subject: half of it being rubbish the other being misinterpreted facts. IQ is a blanket term for a wide variety of traits and functions - often the product of environments. Race is true to an extent: blue frogs, green frogs, red frogs but not to a total biological extent: Toads and frogs.

>>11849202
>going to hell
>aids came from the CIA

typical uneducated faggot. invalid.

>>11849213
im disappoitned to share the same alma mater with this cunty bitch.

i'm going to write a manifesto someday like the unibomber

>>11849189
durr hurr wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gy%C3%B6rgy_Ligeti
>Also important are his Etudes pour piano (Book I, 1985; Book II, 1988-94; Book III, 1995-2001), which draw from such diverse sources as gamelan, one of his favorite jazz pianists Thelonious Monk, African polyrhythms, Bartok, Conlon Nancarrow, and Bill Evans

For the record, I'm a Korean musician. And yes, I've played a few of those Etudes. They're hard as all fuck, I can tell you.

The only thing I have a serious problem is with society being taken over by feminism.

>>11849196
>I hate people fucking around with my papers
>Biomedicine
>Cite's Razib Khan's blog
>Razib Khan is a high profile researcher, whereas he's just a bachelor's student with Walter Mitty fantasies

Is Razib Khan, a Bengali, also an evil racist? How about Bruce Lahn, a Chinese-American? Your PC brigade stopped his research on the evolution of the brain in its tracks.

>It was a triumphant moment for the young scientist. He was up for tenure and his research was being featured in back-to-back articles in the country's most prestigious science journal. Yet today, Dr. Lahn says he is moving away from the research. "It's getting too controversial," he says.

>What Dr. Lahn told his audience was that genetic changes over the past several thousand years might be linked to brain size and intelligence. He flashed maps that showed the changes had taken hold and spread widely in Europe, Asia and the Americas, but weren't common in sub-Saharan Africa.

>Yet Dr. Lahn, who left China after participating in prodemocracy protests, says intellectual "police" in the U.S. make such questions difficult to pursue.

http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB115040765329081636-T5DQ4jvnwqOdVvsP_XSVG_lvgik_20060628.html?
mod=blogs

>>11849213
>IQ really is a mythical subject: half of it being rubbish the other being misinterpreted facts. IQ is a blanket term for a wide variety of traits and functions - often the product of environments.

In respect to what processes or mechanisms is it that persons who perform well on anyone test, in general, also perform well on many other tests, even on tests that are highly dissimilar in content and sensory and motor modalities?

The concept of intelligence depends not on the fact that people can be ranked by this test or that, but rather on the fact that, whatever the test, so long as it is cognitive in the broadest sense, a positive correlation emerges between the ranks for any two tests. If an IQ test were just a rag- bag collection of subjective cognitive tasks that did not all measure a common factor, there could be no positive manifold.

ITT: butthurt whites trying to take credit for something they had no part in creating, and benefit from just as much, if not more than nonwhites. Racial nationalism is ego masturbation, nothing more. You are nothing but your own accomplishments. In the real world, no one cares.

>>11849253
Why do you fucking brown and black subhumans always direct your ire and vitriol towards White pride? Why never Black Pride? Or La Raza? Stop feigning moral outrage.

I never get how people think along race lines - I mean honestly, do you really think that polish guy in MacDonalds is your fucking race brother - I don't. It's your English, Your French, Your Irish, Your German - not white. It's your Ghanese, your South African, Jamaican black, not African Black.

>>11849242
>left China
>says intellectual "police" in the U.S.
this is the most awesome quote of all time

>>11849253
Race is just extended family, of course people take pride in their familial accomplishments.

>>11849267
You built the pantheon?
You fought at the Somme?
You realized the laws of the Universe?
No, so why take credit for such a thing.

>>11849277
>left China after participating in prodemocracy protests

Nice obfuscation, lefty. Everyone knows the left fears HBD research.

>>11849253
also ITT whites trying to point out to butthurt whites that they need to chill with the heil hitler and the eugenics

>>11849253
Because the White Race is a family. We take pride in things as if it was one of our next of kin who had achieved it. We're related by blood, genetics, and history.

Solidarity of this kind are the buildings blocks of culture -- something human beings need to survive and be healthy mentally and emotionally.

Should no person take pride in the successes of people in their own racial background? Every race does that. It's our connection to the past, and in connecting with the past we connect with ourselves now and into the future.

Who would want to give up racial affiliation and subject themselves to no history and no family? Not me.

>>11849267
Having your little kid brother killed by a neo-nazi thug doesn't exactly make you all friendly and warm to white supremacism.

>ire and vitriol towards White pride? Why never Black Pride? Or La Raza?

White priders do enough of that already. This thread is evidence of that. I have been to Stormfront, and 90% of that site is raging against Jews, Blacks, Mexicans, etc. The history part never has more than a dozen viewers.

As I said ALL racial nationalism is ego masturbation, nothing more.

>>11849299

>pantheon is sort of small
>fighting isn't a measure of intellectual achievement
>we know the laws of the universe?

>>11849253
>>11849253
Remember South Africa and your end apartheid now campaign?
South Africa now has the highest murder rate in the world, the most dangerous schools in the world and the highest level of poverty and starvation on Earth.
When it was still controlled by the Whites, there was so much food that they were able to export it.
South Africa was the breadbasket of Africa.
Negros had employment, money and health care.
Now they have nothing.
Good job liberals.

>>11849299
This has actually been a traditional slam on science(in general). Why you didn't invent the lawnmower all by yourself. Someone invented an engine FIRST.

I think its a positive trait basking in the achievements of others...The basics of scientific achievement is standing on the shoulders of giants.

Today, I built a hardwood floor. Does that mean I shouldn't do it because I didn't invent hardwood floor construction? I guess I don't understand the argument. All smart people stand on the shoulders of Giants.

The nonwhites are just jealous cause only us and some of the Asians ever got past the Stone age. Look at the Native Americans they had stone arrowheads before we arrived.

>>11849303

You have a point. If his research is being policed because it is too 'controversial' than that is an issue that should be addressed. But why pin it on the left? I would tend to think that it's dictated by the social mores of the financial contributors to the research itself, corporations, etc. Don't be so sure that the 'left' is behind everything that's unjust. There are more balls in play than you know.

>>11849242

a) if he's such a high profile researcher (what he's not), just cite him as your real source
b) he's a fucking nobody from nowhere imputing shit from other peoples data
c) I'm better than him because I'm white!!!!

>>11849334
i can attest to this.

my famiyl left south africa in 1994, wasn't a coincidence.

niggera can't run a country. they can't fucking do it. stay the fuck out of moscow. douchebags and faggots too

>>11849328
I know what your issue is here. You take issue with white racial pride. That's fine. However, I never see any of you so-called "anti-racists" telling the Latino and black communities that they shouldn't have pride in their racial and/or ethnic heritages. If anything, I see those on the Left as being extremely supportive of non-white racial and/or ethnic pride. Take Black History Month for example. It's a month that those on the Left generally support unconditionally. It's also a month that places a strong emphasis on the entire black population taking pride in achievements of a few blacks. What's the deal with that? Before you say that you disagree with Black History Month to save face, that's not good enough. With that said, I'd appreciate it if you could provide an explanation as to why you ideologically align yourself with those who've been shamelessly promoting racial double standards, while hypocritically preaching racial equality at the same time for the past five decades.

>>1184939
lol no its not

white people aren't a race, they're a giant amalgam of races and ethnicities that have been mixed together by a unending tempest of war and incest across the European continent

you can't say that you're proud of white accomplishments, that'd be like some Japanese dude being proud of the protests in Tienamien square because they were carried out by his fellow "yellow people".

You might be proud of a specific nationality or ethnicity!

Oh wait, you're white and no part of your bloodline is more than 25% pure, enjoy your mutt heritage and total lack of racial identity beyond what is essentially recognied as bigotry.

>>11849319
this is bullshit. you just don't have any personal achievements to take pride in, so you attach yourself to the accomplishments of people you have nothing but skin color in common with. white family? get the fuck out of here with your ridiculous claims. you're a worm.

i'll address this to all the non-white /r/obots here: don't think that all white people think this way, because it's certainly not the case.

>The White race is a family

Tell a Serb and Croat to get along, see where that goes

A Czech and a Russian are a similar as an Amhara and a Khoisan

>>11849319
>Because the White Race is a family
Bullshit. The "white race" is such a huge amorphous group that there are probably more differences between them than in other races. With so many cultures and nations within it's nonsensical to say whites are just a huge monolithic unit.

>>11849355
He's not my source, do you cite secondary sources when they're merely a reference of primary sources? No. Then shut the fuck up

>b) he's a fucking nobody from nowhere imputing shit from other peoples data

Imputing? What exactly did he obfuscate from the links I provided to journal entries? Be specific or shut up.

>>11849303
No, you silly man, what's awesome is that someone who lives in exile from China is expressing concerns about the level of intellectual policing in America.

>>11849361
there's a difference between empowerment and racism moron