You're a faggot and I hope you get a permabanan

>>1071436
>Dynamic IP
>Permaban
pick one

>>1071436

go reply to a misogyny thread, you lodestoner

Sounds like a good time to Occupy

>graduated with B.S. in May 2011
>hired as a flight instructor 6 weeks later
>flight instruct for 6 months
>hired as an airline pilot last week
>only 22 years old, feelsgoodman.jpg

> graduated with BS in 2010
> got teaching job in Japan, initially upset because i wasn't in the area i wanted
> mfw when I was offered a permanent career in Japan by a local businessman
> bye bye Americafags!!

no really I have no idea what to do since my career never really happened in this economy

should I go back and finish a different degree? what's a foolproof occupation?

>>1071454
Permaban would be better for you.

>Major in biochemistry
>No problems finding jobs straight out of college.
>Friend majored in physics and astronomy
>No problems finding jobs straight out of college.

Science majors.

Enjoy not being a student anymore faggots!!

HAHAHA

Completing 4th year then Honors then Masters then PhD here.

By the time I'm done I will have lived 7+ glorious years of study and hedonism and can kill myself and die happy.

>>1071511
Hell yes. I just got my MS in applied physics. Bitches bending over backwards for me to work for them.

>skip school at 17 years because I can't stand all those faggots anymore
>get into audio engineering
>start own business as film/exhibition music composer
>have own 2floor house with big pool, 2 bikes, new car at 21
>get married and kids by the age of 25
>former class teacher calls me
>10 year class reunion
>rent lamborghini for the lulz
>most of the girls I went to school with are single nigger moms
>most guys are alcoholics or drug addicts
>all jelly as fuck
turned out better than expected

just keep on with your lives fellow anons, there is hope

>Majored in business but the only thing I enjoy is writing
>I have no faith in myself to write something that would make money so I'm sticking with business because I'll have a job when I graduate
>will forever be stuck in an accounting job
>will want to kill myself every day thinking of how I wasted my life
>that feel

>>1071557
The lot of the "business" or "economics" student.

You reap your just reward you scum. I refuse to even speak to business students at uni.

>>1071564

I didn't know what to do and my dad pushed me into it because it was his major

I kept telling myself eventually I'd find a class I liked

Holy shit was I wrong and it's too late to start over with a new major now

>>1071571
If you cared that much you'd transfer to a new degree and study what you wanted.
Enjoy 45 years of monotony and then death

40 years of livin' then death.

DEATH

Is it true you can become successful with the right connections?

I think I'm going to try networking like a motherfucker and hope someone likes me.

Make yourself useful. Join the military.

>majored in psych and philosophy
>got fired from my temp job for over sleeping due to a bender the night before
>yeah

>>1071638
>useful
>military

>got my BA in marine biology/limnology
>dont even know what jobs to apply to or what I am supposed to do
>apply to a 6 month job in research to antarctica
>they accept me after interview
>turn it down cos shit pay and harsh environment

Hurr durr, I got an Arts Degree coz I hate money...

Hur, WHy can't I find a job????!?!!!??

is there any hope for liberal arts majors?

I mean, I've seen success but, only when you reach the phD level by becoming a professor or kissing ass

Engineering Master race here.

Companies gargle cocks for engineers, to the point of disbelief.
>mfw 45 Engineering students in one year group in the one City university, in a city of 360,000 people.

>study engineering
>have no fear of unemployment

>>1071975
>>1071913

Languages fag here.

>One of the most employable majors

I ain't even mad.

Looking at going into Advertising and Marketing for an MA.

Thoughts?

>get a BA in history
>lol no jobs fuck you
>start applying any places at all
>no job history, 23yo
>get alot of calls back, shit load of interviews
>Get a job as a luggage handeler
>i was offered a teachers job in high school but I turned it down cos the pay was way less
>its part time and I work like 20h week
>get paid 1800+e/month before taxes
>offered me a full time job but I am too lazy to work that much
>hard work but keeps me in shape
>lost alot of fat and gained alot of muscle in the past 4 months
>fly free or with some nice -80% discounts

>>1071868

oh lord i'd take that so quick

how many motherfuckers say they went to ANTARTICA?

How many motherfuckers are gonna say "hm he went to antarctica.. nah he's a soft bitch, im not gonna hire him."

>that feel when majoring in accounting

I'll get a job easy, but I'll also be doing the same thing nearly everyday for 50 years. Office drone here I come.

If you are living with your parents and they don't ask you to provide rent or food costs then what you can do is uphold your end of the keep by cooking for them and keeping the house clean thus freeing up time for them. They will appreciate it and will be less inclined to see you in a negative light.

Meanwhile, there are plenty of resources online with which you can take advantage of to better yourself. There are literally hundreds if not thousands of sites which will give you a solid understanding and background in numerous topics all applicable to the real world and improving your skill set and employability.

Just think, if you were to spend just 5 hours a day learning a foreign language you would be near fluent in 3 months.

Spend your time wisely and you can benefit massively.

>>1072598

Here are some links to help you:

https://sites.google.com/site/scienceandmathguide/
http://oedb.org/library/beginning-online-learning/200-free-online-classes-to-learn-anything
http://phet.colorado.edu/en/simulation/circuit-construction-kit-dc
http://dspace.mit.edu/
http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/web/courses/visits/index.htm
http://freescienceonline.blogspot.com/
http://code.google.com/edu/
http://hackety-hack.com/
http://www.khanacademy.org/
http://lifehacker.com/5739492/learn-the-basics-of-design-this-weekend
http://lifehacker.com/5744113/learn-to-code-the-full-beginners-guide
http://www.lindau-nobel.org/LecturesOnline.AxCMS?ActiveID=1173
http://pathmicro.med.sc.edu/book/video.htm
http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/electrical-engineering-and-computer-science/6-00-introduction-to-computer
-science-and-programming-fall-2008/video-lectures/
http://rsob.royalsocietypublishing.org/
http://royalsocietypublishing.org/search
http://selfmadescholar.com/b/self-education-resource-list/
http://www.sixtysymbols.com/
http://www.ted.com/
http://newpackettech.com/Resources/Susskind/
http://webcast.berkeley.edu/courses.php
http://www.site.uottawa.ca/~diana/iti1120/
http://www.compadre.org/osp/

You may think your life is over but it is only just beginning.

Choose a topic, draw up a timetable, stick to it, and learn.

You will improve massively and you can face yourself in the mirror and say you didn't waste your time during your unemployment - if anything you came out better during your time in unemployment then you did spending at college.

>masters degree in math
>any job i want
>300k starting

>being interested in the military my entire life, grew up as a base brat.
>join the Canadian army reserves, go to university.
>Study what I love rather than something I hate
>Get degree, join the army as an officer.
>Earn money, fuck bitches.

Feelsgoodman.

>>1072644
gonna be there in one year
feelsgoodman.tiff

>physics major
>math and biochemistry minors
>already working as a research aide in uni after just 2 years of enrollment
>guaranteed graduate school acceptance

Feels good, man.

>>1072710

Brotip from a current, PhD holding academic: You are being used. It won't "feel good man" when you're in your late 20s being paid jack shit as a graduate researcher, slowly realizing that to get a job as a real researcher you'll have to put in 6 more years as a postdoc after your graduate.

>>1072710
Same position, only in chemical engineering, joined a research team in my sophomore years. Fuck yeah, carbon nanotubes.

>in high school realize how much I like dead things
>graduate and go to college, majoring in Funeral Services
>work my ass off and graduate
>spend 9 months working in a shitty call center before I get my big break
>professor from college remembers me and wants to hire me to work in his funeral home
>by chance it happens to be one of the best places to work in the city
>get treated like upper management; even have my own office and a group of attendants to order around
>my already considerable pay will more than double in less than a year
>just turned 24 and am pretty much set for life

It's more than possible, you just have to keep working towards it

College? Murrifat detected.

>>1072760
So I've been told by pretty much every professor I've talked to about it. I've accepted that fact as money is the least of my worries and am in absolutely no rush. Believe it or not, some of us chose majors out of personal interest as opposed to which yields the largest income.

>>1072789
>>1072789
Have you ever became intimate with a deceased person?

>>1072824

I have had an entire arm inside a few. I regularly slice them open and dig around. I've swabbed eyeballs, sutured scalps, packed nasal cavities, even washed hair. I've scrubbed and prepared countless bodies, but I've never attempted to have sex with one. That said, I do feel like I have been intimate with them though. You don't look at a person's spine through their empty chest cavity and not walk away feeling connected to them.

>Study Philosophy in college
>inb4 hahaha no job ever
>worked in a liquor store all through school
>drank a lot in college learned a lot about beer wine and spirits
>came home to live with parents
>2 months of part timing in liquor store offered a management position at another
>4 months later got a better job for a liquor store chain
>45k a year to hang out with my employees on friday and saturday and get buzzed at work
>life into easy mode

Alcohol is a great thing

>>1072800
>money is the least of my worries and am in absolutely no rush. Believe it or not, some of us chose majors out of personal interest as opposed to which yields the largest income.

Sure, I believe it. I'm surrounded by a bunch of graduate students, postdocs and professors that made that choice. You wouldn't believe the intellectual knots they (we) tie ourselves in trying to justify our choice. Some people just get on Zoloft. A lot more than you think do that.

But sure, join us. There are tons and tons of postdocs that pay NIH scale (35k a year or so working 60 hour weeks) that you can get after 6-8 years of doctoral study (15-20k a year if you're lucky), assuming you complete the program (50% washout rates). Heck, if you're a good postdoc, you can get a second postdoc to really prepare yourself for a professorship. You'll need the preparation. One of the positions I applied to (and didn't get, ah well) had 680 applicants. (FYI, it pays about 70k a year).

>>1072824
Dat pic. What's the name of comic? Do tell.

>>1072867
you win this thread.

anyone trying to beat you must start a new thread

>>1072902

> UK Student
> Bsc Psychology with Cognitive Neuroscience - fees paid
> Msc Human Computer Interactionism - fees paid and granted a stipend
> PhD In HCI - Fees Paid, industry sponsored 20kGBP a year to live on
> 24kGBP job if I want it in department
> 35k Industry Job in the offering. Starting.

I'm sorry, what were you saying? I can't hear you above my zero debt and job opportunities.

>>1072902

> 6-8 years to get a PhD
> MFW British students get one in 3-4 on average

And seriously guys, it's not like your research is twice as good. What the fuck takes you so long?

>>1071557

I'm not sure whether I should let you in on this highly secretive information but...

You do realise you can have a job, AND write at the same time, right?

If you have that little of a backbone that you still don't know what major you should have picked, then you'll be the kind of guy that goes "Oh I'll finish my novel this year no hurry" for 10+ years, but as you seem unaware of the ability to write and have a job, I'm just letting you in on the possibility

>engineering 2011
>HURR NO JOB EXPERIENCE
>DURR YOU ARE NOT PROVEN
>LOLOLOLOL JUST NETWORK WITH NOBODY THAT YOU KNOW TO GET JERB

damn it.

>>1071529
>>get into audio engineering

How'd you do that?
I've never really had any clear goal in life, basically going to uni this september just because, but I've recently become very interested in the idea of the field.

>>1075411
>>1075411

wait 3 to 4 years to get a phd? Does this include undergrad and masters or have I landed myself in bizarro world

>>1075475

Undergrad is 3 years typical, 4 with placement. Masters is 1 year.

to all you science grads how did you get your first job after your degree? job fairs at college? networking with professors? did you have to go out and approach them?

>>1075363
fuck yeah HCI

I want to get into that, UI/UX design, interaction design or something similar. What kind of work do you do?

>>1075475

Oh, were you including undergrad as total time?

We can go undergrad-PhD direct if we like. PhD's take three years (most people spend a bit of time writing up after that) and Undergrad the same.

You don't need a masters to do a PhD, and they don't make you do classes to 'count as one'. You're doing your own independent research from day 1. And you get funded, so you don't go into debt whilst getting one (a PhD anyway, Undergrad is now becoming expensive).

That's actually the reason I did mine in the UK. I looked into getting one in the US and it was like

> Take 5 years
> Cost you many thousands of dollars

or

> take 3-4 years
> get paid to do it

Not a hard choice in the end.

>>1075510
oh

I thought you got everything INCLUDING the phd within 4 years. That would be weird.

>mechanical engeering student

>pretty much guaranteed a high pay job

>>1075521

I'm more research focused. My stuff has been on decision making (psychological background) as applied to AI and cyber influence. It was the sort of thing where the problem I was facing didn't have a theoretical baseline to work from, so I did that research and reapplied it into the area of HCI.

Where are you and what're you studying at the moment? HCI's a decent field to look into for work etc - you don't need a PhD to get a good job, I know a lot of classmates who are doing well having gone into industry with the masters doing consulting and stuff.

FWIW the best HCI people tend to have a psychology background, but the most employable ones tend to have computer science. Make of that what you will.

>>1075548

Ha! That would be fucking impressive is what that would be.

Graduated in May, tried to find an analyst job for a few months. No one I wanted to work for was hiring. Decided to be an SAT tutor for $40 an hour.

I've applied to one grad program that I know is perfect for me. Drove there on Sunday (10 hours), interviewed on Monday, drove back on Tuesday. Now I'm just waiting for my decision. Should be good, my GPA and GMAT were both reasonably higher than the already-high average for the program.

I'm going crazy waiting though... Can't wait to move the fuck out of Florida and never come back.

>>1075620
what did you graduate in?

>>1075571
I'm doing a digital media type degree. Design ... computing multimedia type stuff. Very interdisciplinary. I did psych as an elective. I'm going to be doing computer science and physics after this degree.

I'm looking at volumetric displays, gesture-based interfaces, OCR, motion tracking, facial recognition, AI and all that stuff. It's been a quiet field but I think it's going to explode in a few years.

>be Europe
>graduate
>don't have hundreds of thousands of dollars of debt
HAHAHA

>>1075629

Sociology. Stupid decision but I can write like a motherfucker now. Luckily there are some top tier business programs that target these students because they know they are intelligent and good at... learning. One year intense curriculum, and stellar job placement rates in the top firms.

Can't wait to take out the huge loan and get out of here.

>>1075636

Oh, it will. HCI is a massive, growing field of ever-increasing importance right now. I mean, yes, it will reach saturation point eventually, but it's growing in industry and research right now. The more people use technology, the more the call for understanding how they use it and applying that will rise.

You sound like you're in the right general area, although I'm not sure why you'd be throwing physics in there (I'm not dissing physics, I'm just saying that it seems a weird mix). If I were you I'd look to at least try to get some specifically psychology HCI stuff in there. Your elective is hopefully a good grounding, but don't underestimate the importance of understanding things like experimental design, statistics and such in the social science. Physics and Comp sci won't get you that in the way you need it - I speak from the experience of helping to tutor a few of my masters coursemates in that way.

(Oh, and they helped me with programming - it was a mutual learning thing)

>>1075678

Sociology gets a bad rep, but it's not entirely justified.

On its own, it's not great for getting you a job. As entry into all sorts of very employable postgrad courses it's damn useful though - has that mix of writing, research and stats that's a valued skillset.

So don't beat yourself up unduly.

>>1071306
> don't have any qualifications past college
>40k job starting as web developer
>failed university 3 times for 12 years
Feels good man, holy shit it feels good to put that shit behind me

>become civil servant
>comfy desk job, nice colleagues because no pressure and competition
>waste tax money for a living

Fuck the common people.

Hey guys, seems like a good thread to ask. I'm about finish my diploma thesis in biochemistry and not sure what to do next. Is it better to go directly into the industry or should I first get a PhD? I don't want to stay in academia for the rest of my life since as >>1072902 said, the pay is shit and I want to make good money in the future. The problem is that most jobs require a few years of experience in the field even for entry-level positions which is completely retarded but the reality of things.

>>1075947

Depends what you're trying to do and where you want to go.

realistically, most industry research positions require a PhD, whichever industry we're talking about. I know more than a few people who've had to put their career on hold and go get a PhD in order to get higher on the path they wanted. So if that's what you know you want to do...

But that said there are plenty of positions that don't need that. You might want to go into the buisness or management side of things, where a degree in the subject is useful but you don't need a PhD. Or application - if you want to be like an engineer running around on projects again the PhD isn't necessary a lot of the time.

If you don't know, don't jump into a PhD. That's a big step and may not be what you want. Instead try to get industry experience with placements, whilst applying your ass off for whatever low level positions you can find. Your first job will suck, but it'll be your first job. Once you get some experience you can move up, and at that point you'll know if you want to get the PhD and go down that path.

>>1075363
As long as you get along with people in your faculty STAY THE FUCK THERE.

Holy shit there is nothing more soul destroying than working in a business that isnt your own

>>1075655
you really must get all your info on america from the internet. its PISS-EASY to get scholarships here if you have half a brain. in addition to that, anyone with over 100k dollars of debt seriously fucked up big time. most people shouldn't even be topping 50k.

I'm getting my masters in information systems, no computer science background. What do

>>1076119

I'm thinking about it. But the industry job is more research than it is industry - besides, I'm doing the interview even if I don't take the job. If I hate the vibe I'll bugger off. Or maybe they'll hate me and decision made that way!

There's part of me that would stay put but, well, as much as I like my uni I also want to go other places and do other things. If I want to come back my supervisor and other people in the dept would probably re-hire me anyway, but there's a definite feeling of needing to move on. I've been there for many years (masters and PhD) now. New sights are needed.

Plus the industry job would look fucking amazing on a CV due to where it is. Even if I only did it for a year.

>>1076205
> most people shouldn't even be topping 50k.

Seriously, that's enough reason right there. Most european places will leave you with NO debt.

Up until this year, we were similarly happy in the UK. Stupid fucking funding changes.

>>1076266
become a lecturer?

>>1076289

Again tempting. I do like the Academic life.

But there are lots of opportunities to come back to uni and do that after a year or two dabbling in industry. Competitive, sure - but everything is. I'm happy to embrace what life offers me right now.

>graduate with associates degree in multimedia
>want to be a graphic designer
>push carts at a grocery store part time
>sleep, video games, 4chan, working out

>>1076105
I see, thanks for the input. It's not that I dislike research and laboratory work but the conditions for scientists are terrible right now. I mean the pay is enough to survive but the amount of time and work you have invest into your degree just isn't appreciated enough afterwards. In general I do want to get a PhD, my only concern was weather the firms would still hire you even after staying for such a long time in academia. I was thinking of doing my PhD and at the same time a correspondence course in project management. Maybe this will help to get into the industry later on.

>Hate school
>Suck at math
>Love money and everything to do about it
>Going to school within the next year for Finance
>All I gotta do is eat that shit up how I use to eat and sleep WoW
>Time to spec in the Finance tree
>Once I get 40 talent points (2 points average per year) I'll be able to own a nice beach house and a lambo or two.

That feel when I won't be spending a damned dime and will probably end up paying some bitch to have my kid.

>No marriage
>No whining cunts
>Have dat dosh
>Have my kid

That feel, man

>do a 2 year business diploma
>should atleast get me into an entry level job
>specialize in creative marketing
>all marketing agencies who are hiring entry level shit want 2-5 years experience from an agency
>fuckfuckwhatthefuck
>can't get interviews
>work at a storage facility as an assistant manager
>blow my brains out

Should I go back and get my degree, it's another 2 years but I don't know what the fuck else to do.

>>1076460
Want to blow my brains out*

>>1076380
>Be bad at math
>Still expects to manage to become a master of finance

I think i can see a flaw with your plan there.

>>1076559
Not really, just have a better sense of seeing math in my mind now by applying it to currency situations. That, and never paid attention in school.

>That feel when you hate showing your work on paper but you can't see the math in your head and you fail because you try to do the shit mentally but you just can't see the math, doing it visually in your mind.

Ironically.. when I apply it to money, all the shit makes perfect sense, it's like math goggles to me.

>Be european
>Hate math with a passion
>Don't want to study medicine or law because hate studying, don't want to waste that much time on studying
>Go for a BA in politics
>think i might have made the right choice because i have a knack for it and could see myself as being a corrupt, rich, filthy politician
>realize my lack of ambition to compensate for horrible degree
>realize politics is a bad degree to get into politics with (i'm serious)
>read all this crap about how getting a BA dooms you to a mcdonalds job

I'm pretty boned, aren't I?

>>1076851
Politicians are often lawyers. You could be a political critic maybe.

>>1077222
What i read from your post:
>You could earn enough money to ride a bike, at most

Or am i depressed for nothing?

Honestly, everyone who would know these things keeps telling me degrees mean very little in real life, beyond the average secure middle-class life.

My own brother, who is 38 at this point, studied creative writing or some such crap. It took him 10 years to graduate, failing 6 different universities and when he did, he graduated a crap university with crap grades.

He now owns a huge media company and runs several businesses which i have no idea of. And he's as lazy as I am.

I mean really, do degrees matter in real life?

>>1071975
what liberal art?

I'm graduating with a degree in history. i want to teach inner city school kids so i applied for a sort of teach for america lite. I got in. They pay ain't great but i get a 5 grand grant at the end of it, its great experience, its what I want to do and most importantly ITS NOT RETAIL.

It can be done, be smart, always look, take low jobs that are tangentially related in order to build contacts (i took a volunteer job at college teaching english to recent immigrants.)

>>1071627
absolutely. My current job and the job i start in august are all dress rehearsals for the real job i'll apply to. All this while working 40 hrs a week in retail.

Undergrad pharmacy student.
Hello Master of Pharmacy degree with 100% employment :D