UK and the Irish.

Finally, something I can sit in my chair and eat my popcorn to

Basque Country/Spain, maybe France a little tiny bit

Taiwan is also another potential flash-point

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>6865

No Egypt/Sudan over the Nile River?

Disappointing, time-traveler.

>Venezuela/Colombia+Potential U.S. intervention on behalf of Colombia

can someone explain this?

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>1549

>>10353105

OP here, i predict that though disputes about geographical features like big-ass rivers are never going to cease, the commercial viability of the nile--and river-based commerce in general--is in a downward trend; i'm not sure it would be powerful enough a force to elicit all-out warfare

im looking forward to the world destroying north korea

shit will be so cash

That sounds boring.
However you forget a one: European civil war. Only 30 years until 50% of the french are muslims. Most of Europe will be islamic in 100 years and some people won't like it.

That map of Europe is so wrong it almost makes me cry.

What does OP think the oil spill will turn out to do?

>>10353113
read:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-h-tucker/chaos-in-caracas-chvez-sa_b_661110.html
http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20100726-708167.html
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/jul/27/venezuela-in-red-alert-after-colombia-row-envoy-sa/

basically:

venezuela probably gives support/haven to a colombian insurgent group called FARC. colombia knows and doesn't like this. they have been known to do cross-border strikes against FARC camps (they did it in ecuador). if they do it against venezuela, the government would take it as a provocation of war.
simultaneously, you have venezuela flexing its control over oil into the u.s. and general agitation. if shit hits the fan in venezuela, the u.s. would be wise to sweep in and help the colombians, with the assumption that they could get control of the venezuelan oil either directly or by proxy (proxy being colombia).

OP, to begin with can you list me 10 of the ongoing conflicts in Africa?

>>10353193

be sort of like the valdez spill, a big rallying point for environmentalists, but after a few years media coverage will focus elsewhere and, though damage will persist, most ordinary people who aren't directly affected (fisherman, marine biologists) will sort of stop caring

> North Korea/South Korea+Japan + U.S. + most of the U.N.
nope
when china gets tired of north koreas foolishness they will invade

>>10353223
i can try:
civil war in nigeria (see the Jos riots)
ethiopia/eritrea unhappiness (not direct conflict)
somaliland/puntland/federal somali government in kenya/pirates multilateral clusterfuck
DRC/nearly everybody around it
Chad/Sudan weird proxy wars

there are more, i suspect, but this is good for a primer

>>10353235
He didn't say China would fight in the war.

Unless you're suggesting China would, alone, invade North Korea, which is as ridiculous as the US invading Israel because it's tired of their shit.

>>10353235

china can't invade. china can't provoke n. korea like the u.s. and the south can, but it can't go too far against their vested interests in the u.n. either. when shit gets real in north korea, where do you think the north koreans will go? not russia. not korea. they're gonna flee across the border, into dandong, dalian, the yanbian prefecture. refugee shitstorm is a perfect reason for china to stay as far away from north korea, militarily, as they can

your map is bullshit. the islamic and christian parts of africa would sooner sink beneath the sea than unite.

>>10353319

dude read the map. its the world in 1942

>>10353312
no way they'd love it. they'd use those fuckers as slave labour, then ship them back after the rebuild.

The Iranian government has been funding a lot of the terrorist activities in Iraq. That's practically a declaration of war in my mind, but the government probably would want to avoid another major conflict given the sovereign debt.

Same thing with Venezuela/Columbia.

>>10353331
in that case the guy who did it can be compared to these faggoty threads we have now wherein people draw fantasy maps of the world which have never and will never exist.

>>10353333
while this would produce lulz, slave labor on such a massive scale can't reasonably be used by a country that wants so badly to be "first-world" like china. more likely, they'd suffer under a bureaucratic nightmare, receive little to no government support, and generally perpetuate a new underclass in china. china doesn't want that at all

>>10353312
> refugee shitstorm
> implying the chinese won't just shoot them all and act like nothing happened

>>10353358

hence why iran can't just outright wage war on the u.s. both sides need some kind of entry point, a legitimate dispute over which they can both reasonably and rationally enter and fight. i think israel provides that opportunity

>>10353380

they can shoot relatively small number of tibetans doing nothing because they can get away with it. they can't shoot millions of civilian refugees from an invaded country and expect nobody to know. it's not that it wouldn't be expedient for them (believe me, it would), but rather that fear of response to that would be much worse than having to contend with these refugees in the first place

I like how OP's map suggested a union between Pakistan and India.

They can't even agree over an actual border for Kashmir.

>>10353096
i thought about including taiwan in the op, but with the taiwanese especially it's tough to differentiate between legitimate provocation and hollow posturing

>>10353175

we are like the only country in the EU that has a native population still making babies.
we must have 15% of immigrants/foreign origins french.The USA has like 15% of afro-americans alone.

but i agree on the civil war, not only in France but everywhere in Europe, far right and even anti-islam parties are getting bigger.

also, US vs Cartels at the border and China invading Taiwan.

>>10353465

hmmm

i expect the anti-muslim movement in europe to be something kind of like white power movements in south africa: deceptively powerful, but markedly tame COMPARED TO what they are capable of doing.

the primary goal of the u.s. is to keep mexican drug cartels in mexico. they do a great job of this in el paso--even though it's a stone's throw away from ciudad juarez, they dont have nearly the same level of cartel activity that juarez does. if the u.s. openly fights cartels, which they sort of do already, it will only be to keep them within mexico's borders

This thread is a little bit scary. I wasn't expecting OP to be so well-reasoned.

>>10353465
You don't have a civil war against 5%(which is about the amount of Muslims in most European countries, leaving out countries like Italy where there has been a historically large amount of Muslims in them) of your population. The US would be pissed, it's pretty much a genocide.

>>10353424
not really. the us will look the other way and when they do, so will everyone else

>>10353551
Wars are very uncommon nowadays because of how expensive they are(there have actually been military theories prophesying that wars will completely stop because of their rapidly growing cost). Most of the wars in OP's post won't happen because their cost far outweighs their possible gains.

>>10353631

i recognize that this is what we do now when the chinese shoot other groups of people, but the numbers of potential n. koreans that would stream into china are too great (and would be subject to too much international scrutiny) to really be killed en masse

>>10353683
no, they will look the other way because they really want north korea to stop its foolishness too, but as long as china says no it won't happen
and china will only stop saying no when the war-to-be is ran by the chinese

>>10353664

well, sort of. wars cost a lot right now, but historically they have acted as catalytic agents for economical growth. war is a necessity, for whatever reason, and the changing nature of war (heavier reliance on technology and subversion) will tend to engender a cheaper war.

>>10353706

the goal of everybody right now is to get north korea to chill the fuck out. if that doesn't work, the chinese are the ones that will be fucked by the aftermath. they have much more to lose from a war in korea than does the us or even japan.

>>10353048
BR here. Months ago I would doubt on any conflict between Chavez and Colombia. They are always bragging and showing off, but they ain't stupid... especially Chavez. He's an actor that knows well the stage he's in...
But this Santos dude gives me the creeps, and Uribe doesn't want to lose his power... Colombia is everytime stronger and... God only knows what could happen.

>>10353706
You're missing the entire point. The reason the world hates North Korea is because of all the human rights it's violated.

Violating the rights of North Koreans because they violated the rights of themselves doesn't make any sense.

>>10353776

i think we'd be willing to overlook the HR violations if they would stop threatening to blow up a pivotal ally of most industrialized nations (s. korea or japan, take your pick)

Black people killing black people over tribal shit
Asians killing Asians over stupid communist shit
Arabs killing Arabs over stupid religious shit
White people killing blacks, Asians, and Arabs even though it isn't their business and other stupid shit.

What else is new?

>>10353372

YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT CHINA WANT.

>>10353775

op here (a lot of responses to things raised in this thead are me, btw), and it's nice to have some local input. in retrospect i should have linked more stuff about santos in that list of links i gave the guy who asked. he's definitely a volatile agent and as colombia begins to assert more active military power i think the situation in the area doesn't bode well.
for what it's worth i'm pretty sure brazil would only act to prevent the war from spilling into its territory

>>10353851
The hispanics fighting the hispanics, I guess.

Venezuela and Colombia have been at each other's throats for five decades. (See: el Golfo Venezolano.) If it hasn't happened yet, it ain't gonna happen now.

>>10353664

but at the same time, they are massively rewarding if the right things happen. I think when water supplies start dwindling a little more, and populations start to increase just a little more, unemployment and government debts are going to avalanche into ideas of invasions/wars

>>10353930

shifts in power have never been quite this strong, though. agitation has always existed, but the men in charge are a lot more dangerous now than they have been in the past

>>10353930

tensions are rising right now and hugo is being a paranoid fuck, he might instigate shit

>>10353775

Nothing will happen, Chavez is the only one being aggressive here. Everyone know that there are guerillas hiding on the venezuelan side of the border but everytime Chavez wants to look like a leader for the party and the poor dumbasses who vote for him, he go crazy and send tank to the border.

inb4 usa vs. russia
It's completely unrealistic and retarded. Go back to playing call of duty, grown ups are talking

>>10353551

Agreed. OP could be some kind of CIA agent or International Relations prof. Shit's nuts

>>10353774
>>10353776
no, nobody cares about north korea violating human rights. they did that since the 1940s.
they fuss so much about them now because they are building nukes

LUXEMBOURG IS INVADING! HOLY SHIT GUYS HELP

>>10354020
despite the fact that north korea as a singular entity didn't exist in the 1950's, you're basically right. see my response at >>10353839
HR violations are always good fodder to gain public support though, although to be honest a war with n. korea would probably be the most popular military action america could make right now

>>10354065

shit, all 5 of them? see if you can kindly ask them to go back, that might work. sometimes they just want attention

Hey OP
I would've thought China would have expanded into Africa.

>>10354144

why? china needs to get stable internally before it can worry too much about external expansion. china can't focus on expansion and keeping the uighurs in check simultaneously and expect to do both effectively

>>10354072
> north korea as a singular entity didn't exist in the 1950's
well, whatever we call it, the same people have been in charge since 1946.

>>10353175

Refer to the picture for why you are wrong

>>10354241

that's true. also i'd like to point out i meant to write "until the 1950s" not "in." oops

>>10354224

Also, China is kicking ass economically because they have enormous cash reserves, virtually no debt and aren't generally going in for speculative financial ventures, ie wars of expansion. They're the only country untouched by the international Bush recession, they're not interested in expansion...yet.

>>10354700
Not interested in expansion?

>Mongolia
>Into the west for oil and other resources
>Even Kashmir
>Taiwan (Though that isn't expansion)

Can anyone tell me if China on that map (United Republics of China) is considered to be under nationalist control by the US? (map from 1942) and not under communist control?

As in, the US expecting the nationalists to rule China after WWII (with American help of course)

>>10354835

>but they can't rationally seek permanent expansion (into africa much less, lol) without a reasonable expectation of internal stability

>>10353891
Brazil wants to be known as a Regional Power and wannabe World Power.
We wouldn't act military, but we would try to say something and not want the US to meddle. Which would be a good way for the US to enforce a "America for the Americans" thing again.

>>10354700
>>They're the only country untouched by the international Bush recession
That's why their economic growth has slowed substantially.
>>they're not interested in expansion
I think you need to read up on what is going on in Africa.

MURRICA, FUCK YEAH!

TAKIN OVER VENEZUELA, NORTH KOREA, AND IRAN, YEAH!

>>10354835

What this anon said: >>10354908

The countries you list have been in China's sphere of influence for...well, decades, if not over a century. An expansionist move like the US into Iraq would be extremely destabilizing economically.

>>10355066
They do not wish to make permanently stay in Africa: Who wants that?

No, it is true China is investing more and more in Africa, because of all the resources. They are using the African lands much as we have done in history (and are still doing). No political expansion or something: They do not want to wave the Chinese flag in Africa or such.

With expansion I mean something like the Tibet expansion/occupation, expanding Chinese territory.

as far as the colombia/venezuela situation, alot of you are overly confident in colombia's actual capabilities. The military and government only control 3 major cities at best and the countryside is lawless. about half the actual land is controlled by cartels and rebel groups. Their military is running basically on fumes. It is only propped up because of plan colombia money.

Chavez wont attack because he needs oil money.

btw I was born in Medellin

War with North Korea would be the new vietnam, and you know what, I want another vietnam, Nam was like the coolest war ever, its basically in the same area too, so jungle combat and all that shit, man it would be so awesome, id get high and kill gooks and fuck hookers then die a horrible death or go home scarred for life, nothing i want more, seriously

>>10355396

colombianfag here

bullshit, yes the government doesnt have full control of the country, but saying that out of 1045 cities the government only controls 3 is complete crap, the government has control over all urban centers no matter how small, when it comes to unpopulated areas Id say the guerilla does control a big part but by no means the majority probably 10% at most.

drug cartels are really weak now a days, the guerilas control most of the drug trade.

>>10355403
North Korea is for 80% composed of mountains, and has a different climate type according to the Koppen classification.

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As far as I know the Colombia/Venezuela conflict is between the US-friendly conservative-right Colombia and the paranoid socialist-left Venezuela.

I cannot confirm this, but since Colombia came under the control of the current president things really got better over there, somebody can confirm this?

>>10355396
>>10355514

Amerifag who grew up in Caracas here.

Colombia and Venezuela have been rattling sabers at one another for decades, primarily over: a) oil rights in the gulf between them; b) immigration, ie, the "dirty Colombians" sneaking over the border into prosperous Venezuela to steal jobs.

I really don't think a pragmatist like Chavez would unhinge his who pan-Colombian (meaning the Americas, or at least the Americas liberated by Bolivar) gambit over a regional conflict with Colombia.

I CAN see the US financing an incursion into Venezuela by rightist paramilitary squads in order to prompt a region-toppling incursion of US funds and, possibly, troops.

Finally, to anon's point about government control of cities: no, anon is right. Those not under control of guerillas are controlled by drug cartels, and then you have rightist paramilitaries (who are to some extent government-backed, although that doesn't count as overt control). Columbia never developed at the pace Venezuela did, so vast tracts of it are untameable wilderness or backwoods rurality.

>>10355403

>Nam was like the coolest war ever
>basically in the same area too
>jungle combat
>get high
>kill gooks
>fuck hookers

Let me guess, you're american and underage?

My face when you can actually define a generation and/or decade in the US by which places they invade.

40s: Europe
50s: Korea
60s-70s: Vietnam
80s: Afghanistan
90s: Iraq
2000s: Iraq AND Afghanistan
2010s: Venezuela (and I'm betting this is purely because the country name is similar to "Vuvuzela", in which case I'd completely support this war)

>>10355811
>80s: Afghanistan

wat

>>10355765

>>10355514 here

dude I live here, I know what Im talking about.

>>10356118

You live in Venezuela or Colombia?

>>10355920
>doesn't know shit about the history of Afghanistan

>>10355765
i can see you don't go to venezuela nowadays because colombia's economy is better than venezuela's you can see that peso is more expensive than bolivar and i do not think so that a war between venezuela and colombia happens i think that chavez is just a mad president who is out of his mind and whole venezuela is not gonna vote for that guy next time at least new colombia's president is gonna end that war

>>10360905

Well, Venezuela's GDP is $319.9 billion per year, compared to Colombia's $243.7 billion per year, making Venezuela's economy 31.24% larger and making their per capita GDP $11,400 per year, vs. Colombia's $5,420. Also, Venezuela's economy has been growing at 4.87% a year with unemployment at 7.4%, as opposed to Colombia's growth rate of 2.53% and unemployment of 11.3%. And that's even taking into account the heavy subsidies Colombia receives from the US just for not being Chavez. So I hate to contradict you, but people still are fleeing from Colombia and crossing the border illegally to take advantage of Venezuela's stronger economy and generous social benefits.

>>10356692
It was the Soviets that invaded Afghanistan in the 80s you fucking retard.

80s is Panama and Grenada.

>>10356692
>has never seen Rambo III


fucking idiot

>>10355778
im a 21 year old canadian

but yeah North Korea is nothing like vietnam, i wuz wrong.. feels bad man :(

I'm betting Iran for the 2010s

>>10354899
Are you trolling? The Communists didn't assume control until 1949...

bampin for more international conflict, yo

>Federated republics of India
>Pakistan

dohohohohoho, I'm sure that will happen

CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?

captcha: Jefferson also
Yes, captcha! Jefferson would love to get in on this shit.

OP how could you ignore Sudan? The referendum is coming up soon; when the South votes to secede there's gonna be war.

>>10363790
pretty much shot that shit down
But what about the Commune system Chavez is trying to push through? It failed when he tried last time.

On an unrelated note, if something like the bombay attacks happens again.

India/Pakistan war will be inevitable. The problems with this are numerous. Firstly because both are nuclear states. i have no doubt that India will win, but at what cost. Also, US intervention is an iffy idea due to the fact that the US is spending lost of money in pakistan to try and gain some kind of control over the taliban (which is so powerful that even government army facilities are used for terrorist training). In other words, the US will probably try to prevent a war with pakistan, but if an all out war was to be declared, the US would have to side against pakistan and deal with losing billions they had invested in trying to fix up the country.

>>10368982
The US is giving aid to Pakistan, but ties are stronger between the US and India. Full open war will not break out; both nations are in a state of secret war currently. The ISI's actions in Afghanistan are part of a proxy war against India; Pakistan wants to limit India's influence in the power vacuum.

>>10369029

this is very interesting, do you have a source for this info? Or any more details on this?

>>10369057
I've read various articles from different sources over the past year or so, can't remember them all. Here's one article that sorta sums it up though
http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D9FA6E3O4.htm

Eternal war in peripheral areas of the Empire. That if you don't consider the on going civil war in Empire cities. All according to plan and nothing new, kid.

>>10369088

much appreciated

tits in return.

>>10364845
I meant that the US were expecting the Kuomintang to win the civil war against the commies AFTER defeating Japan.