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Did you know /q/ is the mods' personal trolling and shitposting board?

Moderator Reply: >>717543
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Yes, but I don't care. I was never affected by the so-called "abuse of their powers"/"shitposting" of mods.
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>>717210
What boards do you normally visit?

Seems like kind of a crapshoot. Some boards are lucky winners with mods/janitors that don't frequently train wreck the place. Others dominate their boards and feel like the users deserve it because the users post things the janitor doesn't personally like.
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Can you search by ID on foolz now?
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>>717204 (OP)
>He is a mod
I would sooner think he knew the trick to bypassing the robot.
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>>717204 (OP)

a friendly reminder that, janitorial staff is mainly SRS-tier "I will remove/ban everything I don't like" type of people who dwell on /q/ and lobby against /pol/ all day err day.
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>>717218
There's a new trick now ?
I knew about alt 0173 and alt 255 but it doesn't work anymore.

If he's really in the team that's disgusting.
Seems like they are all as shitty as MQr.
Who probably wasn't fired, btw.
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>>717204 (OP)
context is important, i would like to have actual links to the posts.
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Good detective work OP.

No seriously, good job.
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>>717224
>context is important,
pic related tells you why it isn't
>i would like to have actual links to the posts.
check the archive
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>>717222
I don't know if you notice Moot's Q&A regarding this whole thing, but all he did is sticky a thread where he shitposted and mocked people who don't like the fact that 4chan's moderators have no scruples or balanced, defined goals.

When the mods were basically not a thing, it would have been funny since people only got randomly banned on the rare occasion.

Now janitors and mods sometimes rearrange entire boards and make sweeping rules about what kind of content will be allowed, banning anyone who doesn't like it. They rebuild the communities around themselves or the sort of content they want, regardless of how widespread their preferences actually are.

We're entering an era where the mods have a lot of control and influence, but it seems like the only thing Moot orients them to do is stop "shitposting", which is any goddamned thing they want.
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Good work OP.
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I think I found another moderator, or a wannabe moderator.

Search "vqElPqiH"
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>>717227
>check the archive
i'm lazy ans have other things to do, like telling /tv/ why they should stop shitposting in /m/'s pacific rim generals
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>>717229
Actually I totally agree with you.
I made several posts about it but cryssie doesn't care anyway.
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>>717229
The whole thing about moot mocking the posters in that sticky startled me too, but I can kind of understand him. It's just satire to show how many people have too much paranoia because of this event and take it way too seriously.
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>>717235
Unless you can see them doing things that are impossible for normal users, it's difficult to tell if someone is a moderator or not at this point.

There were inevitably going to be people that realized the potential to troll with this. Now that we know for sure the moderators and janitors will shitpost and flame with sockpuppets, any retard who shitposts and flames will seem suspiciously like 4chan staff.

It's just frustrating that the "tell" is that the person is a shitposter, since it seems like a lot of 4chan staff is getting nailed for being the worst offenders for shitposting. It's stupid that we can't tell the difference between a confrontational dumbass and someone who has the power to ban people.
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>>717245
It is kind of serious, though.

4chan is densely populated and people talk A LOT. The place is a rumor mill, and I visit here for news on a ton of things. It's also a great way to test the climates on recent events.

If it becomes the personal sandbox to a few select people, though, then a lot of that functionality is lost.
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>>717251
I definitely agree, that it's a serious issue, but he explained it thoroughly in the first sticky, so I don't really get mad, because he's poking fun at some people in the second "stand-up comedy" one.
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Isn't it the same trick people use to bypass nigger and faggot word filter before on /b/ ?
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>>717254
He kind of dances around the issue, though.

Like I say, the "tell" that someone is a mod is the fact that they're not so great, socially speaking. That is not a good situation.

It'd be one thing if you could sniff out a mod based on the way they socially engineer people. For example, if the mods that got caught were always posters trying to trick you into admitting you evaded a ban or breaking some other rule, but we're not even seeing cleverness here. Our mods/janitors just appear to be legitimately retarded - or at least the ones getting their pants yanked down certainly are.

And Moot's take appears to be, "It's okay. This is a retarded website".

It's a huge website. It's retarded on the surface, but there's a lot that lays beneath that veneer, and there's a reason big companies like Microsoft and Sony are hiring viral marketing teams to argue with people here. It's not as retarded of a website as he thinks it is.
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I think that there's probably a better way to make this site work than by giving his friends so much power and so little direction. Advertisers aren't going to come to Moot, especially if they feel like his own userbase doesn't trust him.

I know 4chan isn't really profitable, according to Moot. I can understand how he's gotten in this situation, but the place is an untapped mine. A delicate one - you wouldn't want to strip the place because the geology would collapse and everyone would hate the place.

I think if Moot wants this site to make him rich, though, he should probably hire a marketing consultant who can help 4chan reach other to other social businesses.

Things like E3, Evo, and so on would benefit from moderated stickies reporting on their events. Moot could add in features to those stickies you don't normally see, like video embeds and streams.

On a related board, that sort of advertising would be organic to the community and also helpful to the company that would pay 4chan. /mlp/ has scads of conventions that can't afford as much, but who could definitely recognize the benefit of a sticky providing detailed social coverage.

The site does need structure, but not like it has now. We don't need mods trying to decide which of their favorite subjects people will discuss next. We need mods who can calmly organize crowds of people to make things like the above be possible.

We need mods who can actually talk, for one thing. As it is, I don't think many people really respect or want to talk to 4chan's current police forces - not as we've come to know them.
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Ladies and gentlemen, it's quite clear that the moderation and janitorial staff have proven their lack of worth to the site. The people could handle their own problems against shitposting and rule breaking, but they cannot let go. It's the same with the federal government.

I think that mods, when posting, must always wear their denotation, in order to fix the Gish galloping for the mods. Of course, in ID marked boards, they should remain static as well

I think that Moot's jokes are a tad sour and he needs to practice his material.

I also find it displeasuring that people are banned for posting the screencap of MQr outside of /q/, and the use of >>>/rules/8 as a justifiable response.

Furthermore, if moot were the professional the media makes him out to be, he would fire anyone who practices the Gish galloping and patriot cheering, and provide us with the ability to counter such people fairly.
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>>717257
>>717270
>>717273

Nobody is forcing you to stay. You're free to create your own *chan and show moot how it's done. I won't be holding my breath.
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>>717293
So often is this the fatal perspective of a failed project leader.
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>>717293

Let me put this into a form that your tiny brain can understand (unless you're another janitor shill, in which case fuck off).

4chan is like a really badass sandwich shop you've been going to for many years. Service is excellent, and the food tastes awesome.

However, the sandwich shop gets too popular, and the owner has to hire extra help in order to keep up. The problem is, the extra help are a bunch of douchebags who screw up orders, spit in the food, take forever to serve people, and a whole array of other bad business practices.

When we complain to the staff, thy laugh in our face and tell us we're the ones who are wrong.

Now making a competing sandwich shop might be the fanciful, movie-grade solution. But I don't want that. I want my old sandwich shop back, and to do that you gotta show the owner that his newly hired staff are a bunch of fucking asshats.
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>>717297
Tomatos versus Sandwiches. It's on.
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We didn't need Jangate to know that.
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>>717297
You make the assumption he's hired more Mods since the start of 4chan.
He's hired more Janitors, sure, but he's said time and time again, he's never hired more mods. Ever.
So you're kind of fucking retarded.
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>>717297

Well, guess what fag, you're not entitled to the sandwich shop of your dreams (unless you make your own). This is moot's shop and he's been providing you with decent sandwiches for free, for years. The very least you could do now would be to show a little gratitude. You're not the first disgruntled customer to bitch and whine about the service, and you won't be the last. Moot know how to run his shop, and even if he didn't, it wouldn't be your place to correct him. What you want is irrelevant.
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>>717312
Every time there's been a new janitor intake all the previous janitors that hadn't managed to get themselves fired were upgraded to mod status.
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>>717315
Hello, moderator shill!
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>>717315
That's a nice way to try to dodge the subject of 4chan's decline in quality.
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>>717318

Oy vey! The goyim know!

Shut it down!
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>that picture

Wow OP you are paranoid as fuck.

So what if mods post on this board? They're completely right. Mods and janitors are doing their very best to improve the quality of the boards and all you do is complained like a spoiled child.
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>>717320
>QeqzQ7S0
>Qeq
Top qeq
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>>717318
>waah why won't you join us while we circlejerk and bitch about moot while still posting on his site??
>shiiiiill!!!!

>>717319

I've been here since at least 2008 and I haven't noticed a significant decline in quality in the boards I visit. Assuming quality did decline overall, it would be the users' fault. So blame yourself.
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So can it be assumed that nobody in this thread has ever shitposted before?
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>>717431
Goddamn it, just look at those posts.
It's fucking obvious this retards is a janitor.

Now I have a reason to believe most people defending janitors here are janitors themselves.
What the fuck are you doing moot?
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>>717431
He hates reddit. That makes him 90% better than the other mods.
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But mods were always fags. Seriously, if you just take the axiom "mods=fags" and live with it, 4chan improves.
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>>717438
This is bait don't reply, he's changing goalposts to avoid talking about the main subject.
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>>717443
Sure, I'm shifting the goalposts, but it works into my point. Even if this guy is a mod or janitor [proof?], he's also a 4chan user. Calling people retarded and posting reaction images is just a shibboleth on 4chan, and I think you're reading too much into it if you think this sort of behavior is unorthodox or unexpected. Everyone shitposts on occasion, and being banned for it is just part of the game.
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>>717458
>I have a new IP address
>nobody will know it's me
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I think enough is enough. The easiest solution is to bar mods or janitors from posting in /q/ without stating that they are a mod or a janitor.

They simply cannot be trusted to remain objective or polite while posting anonymously.
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>>717462
>only one person can have a dissenting opinion

gg.
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>>717441
Mods on 4chan have always been fags, but they were fags that barely ever showed up, and the running joke was that there were no mods.

Now the whole site is beneath their thumbs and it's changing to reflect what they want, and 4chan's mods/janitors are not visionaries or leaders unto themselves. They're not out for the public good. They're out to force people to "stop liking what I don't like".
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>>717463
> The easiest solution is to ban mods or janitors
Fixed that for you.

I still believe that replacing the mods/janitor who see and treat their users like Kleenex would be a huge improvment.
How could it possibly get worse ?
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>>717463
Janitors should be able to use their capcodes on /q/.
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>>717458
>People getting punished for no reason other than because I wanted to do it is just part of the game!
I've seen a few janitors spinning things like this quite a lot, but yours is the voice of corruption. No corrupt leader ever turns corrupt to specifically be evil. His eyes don't turn bright red or catch fire - he doesn't find himself growing horns or a goatee.

A corrupt person is just somebody who abuses their power because it makes them feel good. However you explain it afterward is just applying logic so you can keep doing it and can continue to feel good.
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>>717474
Well, if we banned mods and Janitors, then how would they respond to our posts, wiseguy?

>>717476
Completely agree. There is no reason why a janitor's anonymity should extend to /q/ when they use it to sockpuppet.
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>>717470
Well, I haven't seen too much of what you're talking about in my own personal experience. What I personally don't like is users insisting that things they don't like are off topic and a rule violation.
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>>717431

Question.

That first post. You can't make an image post like that without being muted for being 'unoriginal' right? Unless it was a mod making that post...
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>>717481
> Well, if we banned mods and Janitors, then how would they respond to our posts, wiseguy?
I'm talking about replacing them gradually.
Not just banning them from /q/.
Banning them from /j/.

Replacing the dangerous ones with fresh (but oldfaggish) meat.
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>>717490
What if someone manages to post ascii control characters ?
Technically ascii, but non-printable.

I'm brobably saying bullshit, but shouldn't that be possible with the appropriate tools ?
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>>717491
That's not really going to accomplish anything. moot probably has his own internal purges.

And banning them from /j/ on what grounds? You act as if they can get away with anything. They can get away with certain things, but not simply anything. To pretend that janitors are never fired is ridiculous.

And lastly, oldfags are probably no better than newfags when it comes to moderating. In fact, they might be worse, as their the ones with an opinion on how the board should be run. Mods should never be the ones who determine the culture of a board.
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>>717507
From what chrrysie said they are, and will, only be fired in case of inactivity. That's what is written in th sticky.

But people like MQr are on the countrary too active.
And they are still here.
With their wonderful opinions about creative people.

>>717501
Okay. The idea was that control character are probably removed on the client-side by the web browser, and I though that the server may not be deleting them at all, since it is still ASCII.
But yeah I'm not surprised that it was already tried.
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>>717533
>implying that wasn't on purpose
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>>717533
I am dealing with this janitor presently. He should not have posted, as per moot's instructions.
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>>717543
Get moot to consider >>717476
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>>717501
A double-post like that was a trap for a clumsy mod. That happened once the other night, too. They get a bit of lag, don't realize the post went through once, and they submit again.

Double-post.

No way to deny they're a mod after it happens. Only mods and janitors can delete posts here, so there's no way to go back on it, and only a mod could accidentally double-post anywhere on 4chan without waiting for the timer to tick down between posts.

You'd think they'd at least be smart enough to turn off administrator privileges, but it just goes to show how much they want to polish the banhammer.

Whatever. It's hard to be sure unless they do something stupid, but the mods stick out like sore thumbs. They're the only ones who think it's cool to be a total faggot with the power, since none of the rest of us have the power to go corrupt with it.
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>>717543
>I AM DEALING WITH THIS ROGUE JANITOR, CITIZENS! DO NOT BE ALARMED. I JUST GOT HERE AND HAVE ALWAYS HAD THIS MUSTACHE.
Ah! Haha!

Okay. Gotcha. Yeah, I'm sure that "janitor" is feeling a little silly right now. You our trust, to the utmost sincerity.
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>>717561
>>717566
>four posts apart
Is this supposed to be irony?
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>>717431
Sounds like I_AM_ABIB or whatever his name is going by spooky's IRC logs. Why is he always so angry?
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>>717572
I don't get it. What are you talking about?
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>>717576
Look at the ID. Read the posts.
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>>717579
I still don't get it.
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>>717579
I don't get it either. Four posts apart from what?
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>>717576
>>717579
>>717580
Gah nevermind, I'm an idiot. /q/ is too slow sometimes.
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So when a mod catches a janitor double-posting then deleting his posts on /q/, what do you guys think they do with them? Or should do with them?

I think the janitors have to give the mod their pot of gold! But they're always really tricky about it, and the mod gets bamboozled by some clever scheme the janitor thinks up on the spot.

So nobody will get disciplined and it'll be like there wasn't a janitor. Only a mod, thankfully. Thanks, mod!
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>>717543

So the jannies still shill here despite moots calls otherwise.

Great...
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>>717600
Dude, it is not a janitor.

That all happened way too quickly. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, too, but I don't think janitors can delete their posts from boards they aren't assigned to.

That's a mod who just "caught" himself.
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>>717543
Define "dealing".
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How do you search ID on foolz, anon?

Teach my uneducated self please
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>>717606

Unless you have beta access, you're stuck with search-by-site (query site:archive.foolz.us in Google).
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>>717602
>That's a mod who just "caught" himself.
This.
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>>717607
Fuck

Anyway, screencapped

Quality staff you have there, moot
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>>717607
>You don't deserve better moderation! I'll spit in your food if I want because my work and you deserve it!
>You should be grateful I take the opportunity to spit in your sandwhich! Just be glad you can't see everything we say about you people behind closed doors, or what we do to the food where nobody can see!
>This is practically one of us! There's no reason to talk down on him.
We know it's you.

Okay! You've completely lost what little fear and respect you ever had. At least when were faceless we could give you the benefit of the doubt, but once the mask is off and we see all the nasty things you said to justify being a bad mod, it's really hard to empathize with you.

All I see is a jerk with power. You are just a regular dope. One of us. Except you're not really a very valuable member of the community, and yet you can ban people and delete their comments.
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>>717616
How much do these guys get paid for keeping the site (relatively) clean again?

4chan was never meant to be a polished, professional website. It's funny and enjoyable - that's the point. Stop taking everything so seriously.
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>>717625
>How much do these guys get paid for keeping the site (relatively) clean again?
Is this a serious question? I know some people out there don't realize this, but the staff doesn't get any money for their job.
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>>717626
Dude you're fighting a losing battle.

Janitors are the new Jews. Anyone who disagrees with them is gonna be called a janitor now. Who knows, we might even have Jew janitors in the future. If the mod confirms who you are then they'll just say that the mods are in on it too.

It's only a matter of time before moot is accused of having a hand in 9/11.
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>>717621
>The problem is too much shitposting
Look, here's another thing. It's starting to become really easy to tell who's who based on talk like this. The mods/janitors seem to have this vendetta against "shitposting". Most of us accept that there is such a thing, but it's a vague area of simply "things I don't like".

For you guys, though, it's a whole culture. Everything you do is to stop "shitposting", which is nothing. It's a total ghost chase. "Shitposting" is whatever you think it is or whatever you want it to be, so no matter what you do, anything you delete could be a shitpost with the right mental gymnastics.

But I just keep seeing it. "Shitposting". "We have to stop the shitposting". "There's too much shitposting".

That's part of your orientation, isn't it? When they bring you on board, they tell you that you're fighting an ocean of shit or something, and it's up to you to stop it. That way, every horrible thing you do seems like a crusade for the greater benefit. You feel like being a mod means you have a higher perception for quality somehow, because only you can prevent the boards from being overwhelmed by shit.

And you guys are the "shit leaders". You tell everyone what shit they're going to work with. They're going to work with your shit. You force shit on people.

Your job is a farce. You're corrupt, and you're trained from the ground up to be corrupt by a corrupt core.
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>>717628
That was my point. The asshole I replied to seems to think that moot should be holding intervals and cutting salaries or some bullshit. It's a website with volunteers. A job that I sure as hell would not even consider volunteering for.

>When they bring you on board, they tell you that you're fighting an ocean of shit or something, and it's up to you to stop it.

No I'm pretty sure it's like arriving at an oil spill and moot giving you a spoon while people scream at you pointing out all of the oil.
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>>717635
>Managing a crowd of people is like trying to clean up an oil spill!
You guys are truly fucking lost. You should not be managing people.
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>>717638
I'm not managing anyone you paranoid sack of shit
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>>717635

More like some idiot janitors thinking they can light the metaphorical oil spill and torch the coastline. Then yuck it up when a coastal city gets burnt to the ground
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>>717642

Multiple janitors have been busted shilling here, including one in this thread.

I think we all have a right to be suspicious at this point.
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>>717639
Look, I don't care what you can show me with a screen shot or whether or not you're a mod.

The idea that "shitposting" is a real thing that could be quantified or fought against is a mentality that the mods and janitors have been trying to support, and it's a bunk idea.

When you hire police officers, you don't tell them to go out and arrest people who are "bad". You train them about the laws, let them know what is and is not allowed to within the letter, and you let them know that common infractions are often better off getting a warning.

Being a police officer is not a feel good kind of job a lot of the time. They're not allowed to just shoot or arrest people they don't like because they can justify those people as being "bad". They just keep the peace. Talk to people, settle petty disputes, and try to keep anyone from doing anything criminal.
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>>717431
reading this the janitor sounds like a pretty cool guy
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>>717626
>>717639

Some more deleted posts, hmmmmmmmmmmm
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>>717654
The guy is a ban-evader.
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>>717654
He's been banned more than a thousand time.
His posts are deleted on sight.

The witch hunt's getting ridiculous.
Just as moots predicted.

He's (moot) still a faggot for not taking this seriously.
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>>717658
>He's been banned more than a thousand time
Just how?
Doesn't one side get tired?
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>>717660
I don't think you understand how easy it is to ban evade/how much fun people have doing so.
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>>717660
He has a software on his router iirc.
He just click on a button and comes back.
Changing is IP takes literally a few seconds.

Everyone knows that bans are innefective. But this guy is on a whole different level.
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>>717662
>He has a software on his router iirc
call /g/, I'm dying
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>>717655
>>717658
How do you know, anons?
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>>717664
Because he posted his steam and IRC handle, which he also uses as his trip?
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>>717543
kick his ass out of the program. Don't need janitors that shitpost everytime they post. Although that girl he posted sure was silly!

10 bucks say janitors /v/
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>>717661
I understand it, the effort just seems way exaggerated.
>>717662
>software on his router
I think you wanted to say he has a software to reset his router, you described a firmware (basically the OS of your router).
>>717664
Look his post up on the archives,
http://archive.foolz.us/a/search/text/%28user%20was%20banned%20for%20this%20post%29/username/tali/
Guess that is him.
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>>717669
>http://archive.foolz.us/a/search/text/%28user%20was%20banned%20for%20this%20post%29/username/tali/

>May 29 02:03:55 2013
>May 29 20:31:25 2013
>May 29 20:32:54 2013

hoary shet lamo
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>>717678
Those are just the public ones.

http://archive.foolz.us/a/search/username/tali/deleted/deleted/
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>>717685
yeah I know. but it's still funny.
>(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
less than two minutes later
>(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

proof bans are fucking pointless.
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>>717693
Tali is really one of the posterchildren for why the mods need to understand they can only have authority by consent.

When Tali says, "Fuck you, I'm not banned", then he's not banned. A lot of websites are this way. The only time banning someone can keep them away is if they don't care enough to come back, or if they find it too much of a hassle. Or if they can't ban evade do to being too obvious.

Case in point, artists and content contributors. When they get banned, they're out until the ban is up. Artists can't hide their style, and if they come back too early it's a permaban, so it's really not good to imagine them getting banned superfluously.
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>>717697
>Tali is really one of the posterchildren for why the mods need to understand they can only have authority by consent.
It's really only because they're too nice to use range bans to kill disruptive posters. That's how much they love you.
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>>717697
>Artists can't hide their style, and if they come back too early it's a permaban

I don't understand why that matters:
1. Post
2. Get banned
3. Evade
4. Get permabenned
5. Repeat steps 3-5
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>>717685
Apparently 14 pages of deleted posts, on /vg/, too.
>>717697
I read the name quite a few times already, even in moots Q&A thread.
As I've seen the (user was banned for this posts)-ones, again, I remember.
>>715048 this post, actually. The whole thread with new IDs and begging for appeal and answers, but moot seem to ignore him, as the staff does.
>>717703
You greatly underestimated the fact that not everyone has a range.
Not every ISP is rangebound and if you have an ISP which isn't and it makes up the majority of your country, which is also quite active here, do you want to kill an entire country or the majority of it for the sake of getting rid of ONE person?
Which would imply in the first place, that you would be able to get rid of the person afterwards, who knows what happens then.
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>>717703
> Let's ban the whole continent !
> He won't come back this time.
And 7 open proxies later he's back.
You can't ban people. Even range ban won't work.
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>>717710
>permabenned
wow i can't fucking delete my post ever or reply for another 100 seconds.

At least this discourages me from posting on this shitty board.
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>>717715
Or you can just hell ban him

moot should do this shit already
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>>717711
>You greatly underestimated the fact that not everyone has a range.
The vast majority of people do.

The gold medal standard, which 4chan will never do, would be contacting the ISP directly. Most of them have a ToS so restrictive that they can disconnect you if you're shitposting too much. It's just that they never, ever exercise this power.

>Which would imply in the first place, that you would be able to get rid of the person afterwards, who knows what happens then.
He can always resort to proxies, but all that does is make 4chan's list of banned proxies bigger.
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>>717720
Can't. Software doesn't support it.
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>>717720
moot would have to re-write or pay someone to re-write yotsuba and there's no way he would do that.
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>>717720
>>717722
The software could be adapted but it would be a hell of a lot of work and I've seen admins/mods discussing why it's a bad idea in general here at some point
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>>717722
You can add a plugin which detects hellbanns, if they'd ever implement it.
If the page changes anything to prevent you, you can add measures to detect it.
>>717721
You want to contact an ISP on another continent, write a complete abuseletter (hint: they won't take it out of nowhere) and then it would still imply that he is on his real IP, with the speed of these banevades I doubt it's even a dynamic IP.
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>>717716
Just download DelayClose like everyone else.
If you can't stop the people abusing their powers, you can still abuse yours.

>>717720
Explain the concept of hell ban ?
I'm currently posting from a venezuelian/brazilian open proxy found this morning.
You just can't ban people. Even with a range ban, I'll just connect from another country.
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>>717727
>You want to contact an ISP on another continent
This ain't 1800. You don't have dispatch a clipper ship to do it. You press one button and you're done.

>write a complete abuseletter (hint: they won't take it out of nowhere)
They could write a form for such things.

>and then it would still imply that he is on his real IP
If it's a "fake IP" then just ban the whole proxy. You won't have to request anything from the ISP at all.
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>>717728
>Just download DelayClose like everyone else.
link?

>Explain the concept of hell ban ?
You can post, but no one else but you can see your posts. So you don't think you're banned, but you think everyone is ignoring you. You get depressed from the lack of attention and you hang yourself.

Much more effective than today's bans.
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>>717732
You aren't aware of it, right?
I pointed out the option, that the rumors are true, as I don't want to incite even more attention for this faggot here, as he already gained with the recent posts.
You won't get rid as fast as you think, let's say the amount of IPs used up aren't even 2%, judging by his own statements and certain screenshots on the archives.
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>>717744
>You aren't aware of it, right?
Aware of what? Delayclose? I see that shit all over the first seven pages every few weeks?

>You won't get rid as fast as you think, let's say the amount of IPs used up aren't even 2%, judging by his own statements and certain screenshots on the archives.
He's not using up IPs, he's using up open proxies. Every time somebody launches a delayclose attack, 4chan's list of banned proxies gets that much bigger.
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>>717750
Talking about this
http://archive.foolz.us/_/search/boards/a.co.gd.jp.m.q.sp.tg.tv.v.vg.vp.vr.wsg.foolz/text/tali%20ddos/
http://archive.foolz.us/_/search/boards/a.co.gd.jp.m.q.sp.tg.tv.v.vg.vp.vr.wsg.foolz/text/tali%20botnet/
& especially this post
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>>717752
I don't buy that he/she/it actually has access to a real botnet. A shitload of open proxies, sure. Any retard who can use a search engine can do that. You're on 4chan. You should know that a screenshot doesn't prove shit.

If somebody claims "Tali's taken down a Cloudflare servier," that's almost certainly shit, as actual Russian botnet operators with millions of computers have had a hard time to do that.
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>>717758
Well, there is certainly a coincidence in between these tripshits and downtimes of pages, streams and some other things, which is undeniable.
The server admin of r/a/dio posted somewhere a chart of pps incoming and there is a pastebin of them negotiating conditions for this to stop.
Ask them by yourself, maybe this whole botnet talk is exaggerated, but something about it is certainly true.
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>>717768
>Well, there is certainly a coincidence in between these tripshits and downtimes of pages, streams and some other things, which is undeniable.
So she can 404 a radio stream that was only ever meant to serve a few hundred people at a time. Terrifying.

>pastebin
Yeah, and I have a pastebin that shows that tali is moot.

>Ask them by yourself, maybe this whole botnet talk is exaggerated, but something about it is certainly true.
If tali really has a botnet that expansive, she should be able to 404 all of /a/ inside of two minutes trivially, at very low cost. I really doubt it.
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>>717602
>>717614
Samefag.

11
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>4pi6eDna
Jesus I remember this guy shilling hard as fuck in every thread since the leaks
>>713183 →

How the fuck is Moot enforcing this no jan or mod posting anonymously stance?
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>>717934
This is seriously embarrassing, why do they have that need to justify their meaningless position? By doing so they are doing nothing but devaluing the little utility the have.
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>>717543
>4pi6eDna
Well shit he actually might be the /pol/ mod protecting everyone's freedoms
That's disappointing, I really liked that mod
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>>718371
Yep, definitely a mod. Pic related, he can post pics without comment on /q/. And he defends horsefuckers.
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>>718373

Good, he's not one of those braindead mouthbreathers who thinks everyone's problems will go away if /mlp/ is suddenly deleted.
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>>718189 →

>MQr caught promising he'd be worse than Snacks if made a mod

Didn't moot himself say that Snacks was the worst mod he ever had? Why was this guy even a janitor?
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The mods are the reason there even has to be a /mlp/ board. It went from a popular new show to a site-wide temper tantrum because of them. Then, once they established it something the mods don't like, it became a tool for antagonism.

We may have our shitty mods to thank for the pony explosion as much as we can thank the show itself.

> Noo! Ponies are banned! Stop posting them!
A lot of people know the 4chan mods suck. They can't involve themselves with anything without making it a worse experience for everyone.
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>>718393
>The mods are the reason there even has to be a /mlp/ board.
Nope. You can blame mods about a lot of things but pony faggotry was because of the fags who couldn't stand MLP even existing and troll who used them for easy mode trolling.
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>>718401
> I don't like a popular new thing.
Well I guess the mods should make board-wide announcements that we no longer tolerate thing. Unless the mods like thing too, of course.
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>>718417
I don't think you get what I am saying. /mlp/ was not created because mods decide that the board should exist. /mlp/ was created to shut up the large amount of users who bitched and complained about MLP being on their boards. Many other boards were made for similar reasons.
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>>718442
The board was made so the mods wouldn't have to fuck with everyone by making expetions for the community. Now they can delete a certain kind of conte t if it appears anywhere else. You notice the mods being faggots about it here? They want to delete the board itself too.

/mlp/ is a containment board and a protection service rolled into one.

Pony can't go anywhere else because we can't trust our mods to be mature adults towards content they don't relate with.


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