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what makes 4chan different from reddit?

4chan:
> m00t listens to the users and posts with us
> mods take care of stuff when m00t is busy
> board culture is respected but not enforced
> mods ban people interfering with discourse (see all GR's to confirm)
> don't act like a whiney faggot or face ridicule

Reddit:
> no m00t
> anyone can pretend to be a mod
> board culture is respected and enforced
> mods ban to control the discourse
> act like a whiney faggot or face ridicule

I would like some honest reaction from the other chansters here, how many people are upset with how the mods here are exercising their authority?

>stupid question, I know, and yes I've browsed /q/ and know the answer
just looking to see how divided this site really is on what's happening.

>have a nice day.
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are you autistic
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>>688623 (OP)
> m00t listens to the users and posts with us
He doesn't at all

> mods take care of stuff when m00t is busy
they are making this place worst delete post they don't like

> board culture is respected but not enforced
Mods and /q/ have killed board culture unless you enjoy generals

> mods ban people interfering with discourse (see all GR's to confirm)
Mods ban anyone they don't like on topic or not

> don't act like a whiney faggot or face ridicule
Look at /q/


At this rate reddit is a much better site and Moot knows this, he is forcing the mods to come down hard so he can increase ad money
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>>688634
that's exactly how I feel about it, currently.
that's not how it used to be though.

more replies please, speak up while we still can.
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>shooping in debate training points all over
>basing them off anonymous posts
>asuming from the word go they are all mods
>muh 4chan is a sellout since year 2012, sellout since year 2008, sellout since year 2005, X since year Y
You are a street propaganda salesman, everything you've said, you've backed with wild asumptions and absolutely no proof
Then you've done a real good job filling up the graph with baby's first guide to debates in order to not look stupid
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It seems like all boards are visited are complaining about excessive moderation. I know that there are actual shitposting groups that want to allow meme-spam and offtopic, but it bugs me that I have no way of knowing what kind of threads are deleted and whether the ones I catch were the cause of moderation or self-deletion.
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>>688676
4chan has always over-moderated since the beginning, hence the term: '4chan tier moderating'
Its impossible to make an adjusted case for every single post ever done on the website, to remain attentive enough and/or unbiased enough
This does not, at all, justify overmoderation, but that's why /q/ exists, to point out these flaws on a case by case basis, and from that, eventually seek a way to improve the overall moderator standards

However, this eventually leads to a point, where mods start not moderating at all, anything other than what causes massive butthurt among the population
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>>688671
moderator in the .jpg has openly stated he works on Thursday and Friday. https://archive.foolz.us/q/thread/685625/#q686017
nice try though.
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>>688738
So let me get this straight, you absolutely didn't address a single thing I said, and instead followed with a non-sequitour of pointing out that there's an anonymous poster, who implicitly claimed being a mod, that allegedly works on thursdays or fridays?

I don't buy it
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>>688734
>4chan has always over-moderated since the beginning, hence the term: '4chan tier moderating'

Are you fucking retarded?

The common consensus for a very long time on nearly every board was

>/[insert board here]/
>mods

Git out
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>>688763
enjoy your blue pill.
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Is that picture a silent cry for help? Do you want to show us that you desperately need psychiatric treatment? Because if you honestly believe anything of your own paranoid, incoherent and irrational conspiracy gibberish, you must be sufffering from a severe mental disoder. Please ask your parents to escort you to the nearest psychiatric hospital. You can be cured -- with medication.
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>>688778
>Are you fucking retarded?
Personal attack
>The common consensus for a very long time on nearly every board was
Ad populum

>Git out
You first

>>688782
Enjoy forever appealing to emotion and being entirely incapable of critical thinking
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>>688789
He is just being an interested party in favor of reddit (be it SRS, or not), or an agent provocateur making a sloppy case for the rest of 4chan to suddenly give more reasons to dislike reddit
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>>688804
lel.
enjoy your ad hominems, refusal to look at my objective critical thinking, continued complaints from chansters, board purges, increasing control of permissible intellectual content, and declining userbase.

you can stop trolling now, i'm not going to bite.
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>>688623 (OP)
6OwqqTDF isn't a mod; she's just someone who knows how to game the system. One of the tactics she's openly talked about using is repeatedly reporting posts. The way the report system currently works, you can re-report a post once the report is deleted. Each time a post is reported, it's likely that a different mod or janitor receives the report, and there's a chance that mod will ban you for it.

If she did become a mod, 4chan would be in deep shit.
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>>688832
>my objective
By definition a person cannot be objective, you are being subjective and you are convinced of owning the absolute reason, which makes you a Fire Eater

>continued complaints from chansters
The posters have complained about things since times inmemorial, and have indeed left to roost in other board communities before, sometimes returning, sometimes leaving for good
This is not an exceptional period, but rather the norm

>board purges
Every once a while, bullshit hits a critical level and the website goes final solution as a way to stop it, there could be a better way, but it has not been found yet (although you are encouraged to give your ideas as to how on here)

>increasing control of permissible intellectual content
You can thank the US government for that

>declining userbase
You can refer to moot's posts on the number of unique IPs posting since 2004, and see how if anything, it has increased every passing year

>trolling
Your cognitive dissonance is getting pathetic
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>>688855
I politely asked you to stop trolling.
you aren't contributing to the discussion, you aren't offering up your own opinions, you are simply attacking the OP.

naow, stop trolling and a) start talking or b) leave
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>>688863
>I politely asked you to stop trolling
Your appeal to pity won't save you

>you aren't contributing to the discussion
How am I not contributing to the discussion by pointing out that you are being severely partisan?
If you have something against someone, address that someone, don't make it your personal crusade against an entire website, because you aren't any better than whoever you may believe is attenting against you freedom of speech

MEANS DO NOT JUSTIFY ENDS

>naow, stop trolling and a) start talking or b) leave
I will not be hogged into making a false choice, step it up
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I meant, ENDS do not justify means, inb4 I am hunted down for a mere gramatical technicism
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>>688872
elevated from troll status to faggot.
well done, 5 posts of shit-tier discourse.
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>>688887
>elevated from troll status to faggot
Now you are just trying to depreciate the worth of my posts by projecting your own homophobia

>well done, 5 posts of shit-tier discourse
Because everything that doesn't cowtow to the partyline discourse HAS to be shit-tier
Of course, its an opinion, and you are entitled to having an opinion, but your opinion on the current subject is absolutely wrong
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>>688853
>If she did become a mod, 4chan would be in deep shit.

Why? Because shitposters like you would get banned? That's what everyone would consider an improvement.
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> m00t listens to the users and posts with us
No he doesn't. Plus he's so out of touch with the site it's ridiculous.

> mods take care of stuff when m00t is busy
Welcome to any website with admins and moderators. Shame neither one wants to do their job on this site.

> board culture is respected but not enforced
Tell that to /a/ which is 'assimilate or leave' Also almost all board culture is shit on this site.

> mods ban people interfering with discourse (see all GR's to confirm)
The only board rule that actually gets enforced fast and consistantly is 15 which is fucking ridiculous. Once again welcome to any website on the internet.

> don't act like a whiney faggot or face ridicule
/r9k/ never gets redicules, and let's not forget that most board culture which you already praised revolves around whining (/v/,/a/,/jp/,/mlp/)

>Reddit
> no m00t
This is bad how? Moot likes to think he's a cool epic troll when the fact of the matter is that he's just the biggest shitposter of them all.

> anyone can pretend to be a mod
You see this all the fucking time on this site and nothing gets done. The difference is that on reddit ALL subreddits have their own moderation chosen by the creator. Hell they even have a subreddit to get moderation. If you pretend to be a mod on reddit you'll get banned quickly.

> board culture is respected and enforced
Stop using board culture like it's a good thing. Board culture just epic maymays which people revolve their browsing experience around. Almost all epic maymays will get you banned on any non-maymay subreddit.

> mods ban to control the discourse
That's what mods are suppose to do, and why you get quality discussion on reddit, meanwhile here you have people pretending their married to cartoon characters.

> act like a whiney faggot or face ridicule
You were really grasping for straws on this one, once again see /r9k/, /v/, /a/, /jp/, /mlp/

sage'd
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>>688892
>doesn't get it
this thread is not your personal battle-ground.
this is an open thread for people to voice their opinions on current 4chan administration.

>start talking like a human being
>leave
pick one.
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>>688887
>can't handle the free speech
>resorts to pitiful infantilism

Are you sure you want to be on 4chan?
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>>688896
10/10, monitoring for interest
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>>688738
If it's true at all, it probably means working at an actual paying job.
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>>688896
>he's so out of touch with the site it's ridiculous
Citation needed, because so far the complete opposite has been demonstrated with all the stuff that keeps getting rolled in

>Shame neither one wants to do their job on this site
You couldn't be more one sided than this, and still haven't produced anything to back your argument

>Tell that to /a/ which is 'assimilate or leave'
There's a lot of both assimilating, and introducing taste, but every last opinion cannot be cattered and have its dick sucked
>Also almost all board culture is shit on this site
A gross generalization

>/r9k/ never gets redicules
Have you been on any board for more than 5 minutes? R9K is regarded as the absolute beta

>This is bad how? Moot likes to think he's a cool epic troll when the fact of the matter is that he's just the biggest shitposter of them all
As if you had not demonstrated that you are entirely incapable of critical thinking you further show how much you are against moot without producing a single shred of evidence of him shitposting actively

>The difference is that on reddit ALL subreddits have their own moderation chosen by the creator
The synonim of subreddit isn't board, its circlejerk

>Hell they even have a subreddit to get moderation
A circlejerk of circlejerkers, definitely a beehive of critical thinking and not a hugbox

>and why you get quality discussion on reddit
Non-sequitour

>meanwhile here you have people pretending their married to cartoon characters
Straight out of the pocket ad hominem

>You were really grasping for straws on this one
You've been picking on straws on your entire post too, not that this is an argument, am just pointing it out
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>>688921
the ban occurred 30 seconds after her titty comment.
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>>688904
>this thread is not your personal battle-ground
This board is not your personal battleground
>this is an open thread for people to voice their opinions on current 4chan administration
This is so far given your opinions and complete lack of critical thinking a circlejerk of critics who could find straws even on a diamond

>>start talking like a human being
>>leave
>pick one.
As if you hadn't made it any more clear that you are absolutely not interested in an actual exchange of ideas instead of demonizing whoever doesn't agree with your pathetic discourse
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>>688931
0/10
trolls gonna troll.
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>>688930
Which titty comment?
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>>688942
You aren't even addressing a single thing I've said since I began posting on this thread, and yet you 'welcome' people posting their opinions here

It is clear from this that you only want to circlejerk with people who've got complaints regarding the website, keep trying to play the victim in hopes of finding somebody who sympathizes with your appeals to emotion

And that you are projecting every last thing you are, among them, a troll
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>>688949
the first paragraph in OP's pic
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Mods are too lenient. The short ban lengths that come from the templated bans are fine, but the mods seem too reluctant to increase those bans (or escalate them from warns to bans, or whatever) with repeat offenses.

Similarly, the mods seem a bit off-track when it comes to certain things: too quick to say "it's just 4chan" and shrug their shoulders when dealing with shitposting and trolling, yet obsessive and harsh when it comes to things like underage users.

I think the moderation on 4chan is fine. It has room for improvement, but in no case is that improvement "backing down" or lessening the amount of moderation that takes place -- it's simply focusing their efforts better.

>>688955
You are OP.
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>>688961
yes, I am. did you find what you were looking for in the picture?
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>>688963
>not checking id's
lel time for me to stop posting.
i'll be here monitoring the thread if anyone needs me.
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>>688955
So she reported you and then responded, and the first mod that came by said "this thread is shit, let's ban the OP." Or some mod banned you independently. She's definitely not a mod. She's even been banned here before.
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>>688963
I was just confused as to why you were referring to yourself in the third person.
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>>688975
plausible.

I remain skeptical; the amount of SRS-tier, SJ, echochamber content moderation is obscene and posters like 6Owqq shitpost and troll at their leisure without recourse.
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>>688975
Either 6OwqqTDF receiving the banhammer or 6OwqqTDF going on /q/ and imitating someone who had received the banhammer:
https://archive.foolz.us/q/thread/655611
https://archive.foolz.us/q/thread/676800
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>>689012
>>689012
>link1
>not him

>link2
>no ban
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>>689020
People change IP addresses.
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>>689024
true, but your thread-id is based on your MAC address, not your ip.
that said, there are ways to mask your MAC, and if you have 2 machines that works as well.

what makes you think first link is him?
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>>689065
>true, but your thread-id is based on your MAC address, not your ip.
No, it isn't. MAC addresses don't even get sent to 4chan.

>what makes you think first link is him?
Same writing style and content. That said, it could also be 6OwqqTDF imitating the first poster.
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>>689065
>thread-id is based on your MAC address
My IP just changed because its assigned dynamically, I am (>>688872)
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>>689074
>>689095
but I get different thread ID when using different routers (ie: different ip's)
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Oh, my God, I didn't even look at the OP image, but holy shit, are you insane.
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>>689101
What do you mean, you do know every post and thread has a different number, right?
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>>689101
>different ID
>different ip's
Did you miswrite that? That's exactly what you would expect if poster ID is based on IP.
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are there really mods that are from SRS?
how did they get mod status?
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>>689106
it's accurate.
if I switch from my primary internet connection to my secondary I still retain the same thread ID on /q/.
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it's been a long time since i've seen an image this autistic
piss off OP
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>>689109
They don't.

/pol/ just like to spew bullshit from time to time because people fall for it constantly.
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>>689109
No, moot told them to piss off. That's why he made /s4s/

>>689152
>autistic

Can we get this word b&? Aspies like this shitposter have no fucking idea what it means.
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>>689181
>no fucking idea
lel.
you'll shit yourself when you learn I had to draft it twice.
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>>689181
The word is a stapple cultural export product of 4chan, I hope you understand

It is also extremely and lethaly practical, in fact, there's no reason for it to not be used to call out any intrincate but otherwise purposeless complication of a simple matter in real life
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>>689183
>>689188
In what way? It doesn't make any sense, an aspie wouldn't care about shit like this. They have little empathy or or care about how anyone would talk to them. It makes no sense, just call him a retard.

Also autism as an insult has been used long before 4chan, it's time you stopped using it. Might as well start calling them Einstein and Bill Gates (who are actual aspies).
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>>689194
>an aspie wouldn't care about shit like this
The whole point of calling someone autistic because of being over complicated, is that autists focus on details and have a brain power that outmatches that of normal humans due to how they can just channel every last effort on a single thing at once

This makes them otherwise anormal, because since the autist cannot fully comprenhend more than one thing at once, he'll just get scared real hard when the environment changes around him

This is why autism is a legitimate insult, and actual autists should just be referred by another term, just the way one says retard but isn't going after insulting people who have actual learning deficits

You won't stop swearwords by banning them, the dog doesn't wag the tail, just like price fixing doesn't stop the economy from buckling up and encourages its own self-destructive demise
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>>689181
>Can we get this word b&?
As long as people shift to things like "catbrain" or "rainman" rather than "a$$3.14" I would enjoy such a ban. So I say ban it on a trial basis and see how it works out.
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>>689194
autism of 4chan means you went out of your way to talk in great detail about some inane topic that no one gives two shits about.

see: >>689188

but I was banned so what the fuck else was I going to do with my time?
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>>689217
>but I was banned so what the fuck else was I going to do with my time?
You do know the ban applies to a certain IP and there's absolutely no username nor login you are attached to, right?

Just a heads up, and welcome to 4chan, I guess
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>>689221
eh, why would I turn a 1day ban into a permanent one when I can create gems like >>688623 (OP)
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>>689227
>permanent one
Really?
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>>689229
>1day
Really?
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>>689257
Not to lie, and am not the type of people who encourages others to act outside the rules, but you've got one hell of a siege mentality if you simply cannot reset your IP and go ahead posting as if nothing happened
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Dear OP. You have been posting in this thread for almost 12 hours without a break. All your posts are nothing but psychotic ramblings. Please get help.
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>>689259
I can. I chose not to.
If the mods have an aneurysm I might choose to, but I'm not going to get bent out of shape over a 24hour ban.
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>>689272
>I can. I chose not to
Then you are just doing it out of a massochistic desire to get handled around and then cry wolf to everybody, probably to attention-whore

>If the mods have an aneurysm I might choose to
This is 4chan, attention whoring went passe back in 2005

> I'm not going to get bent out of shape over a 24hour ban
It just takes turning your router on and off, if you are browsing 4chan from an university dorm, or office, well then you are fucked
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>>689274
>crying wolf
there are a lot of people seeing wolves other than me. mod deletion threads are plastered all over /q/.
there were always complaint threads, but rarely like this. I can't remember a time when boards were purged to 10 active topics.

ehh, you don't care i'm not sure why you post but w/e.

>>689268
I've been playing Tribes all day. Thanks for caring.
pic related
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>>689277
>here are a lot of people seeing wolves other than me
Welcome to the pack then, a few months ago I was banned repeatedly on /int/ over /pol/ discussion and because the marroqui mod kept deleting 'anti-islamic' posts

I just reset the router and give them the middle finger repeatedly when they do that, but can't be arsed to do anything more, the complaints will pile until they get kicked if they are being cunts so am not concerned

And that cunt did get his ass kicked

>ehh, you don't care i'm not sure why you post but w/e
I've been up all night on Zimmerman's case, so I kept this tab open
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>>689280
you concealed your position beautifully.
a pleasure to make your acquaintance, anon.
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>>689297
You are welcome, lol


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