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The next 4chan Q&A/PMQ will be held on /q/ at 8:00PM ET on Sunday, May 12th.

I'll be spending the night answering questions/listening to feedback this coming Sunday. Don't know what a PMQ is? It's detailed towards the end of this news post.
Simply, it's the opportunity to ask me any questions you'd like, provide feedback, complain, et cetera until I fall asleep or jump off a bridge.

If you can't make it Sunday night and have a question/comment, feel free to send it to moot@4chan.org or on AIM at MOOTCHAT.

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/i/ has been really abandoned and dull lately because the art program (shi-painter) is not working, I do not know how it is not working its just that there's some text that pops up whenever anyone tries to submit something. If anyone can fix shi-painter, then /i/ would probably be a little bit more lively.
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Administrator Replies: >>579840 >>585875 >>586404 >>586440
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rip /i/
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>>567236
No, we can make it a little more lively
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Never been to /i/ but it seems like a cool board, would be a shame if this didn't get fixed
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>>567244
Yeah there has been alot of complaining on the board about how it has been getting ignored so much, /i/ needs a little more attention.
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bamp for OP
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>>567385
I dont even go to /i/ but it's a rare occasion that someone asks for help on /q/ with a legitimate site problem. So I will bump for you OP.
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bumpin because /i/ is cool
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>>567585
>>567244
Not OP. But just another den/i/zen. it's true. The drawing application has been broken for so long, I've lost count of the months. There are so many artists that don't even bother showing anymore. And I can't help but to think that it's for this fact. Something really needs to be done. By this point, after so long, I would just be nice to have some contact. To let us know that there's at least an effort to fix this mechanical problem. It's painful just being completely ignored.
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bump for real problem
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>>567848
>>567208 (OP)
:( and I was just saying in this other thread that the dev team was doing a bang up job recently...

I never go to /i/ but you guys seem like the tiny little beating heart of 4chan. Or the pancreas or something. Idk but you should have your board working right for sure. Moot has a sticky in there saying he loves you guys.

Have a bump
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>>567978
4chan has a dev team?
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Bump before bed.
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Another bamp for OP
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It's even more insulting because moot went there to advertise his iPad app but didn't bother to fix /i/
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bumping it up
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This is a cr/i/sis.
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original bumpy bump
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At least moot acknowledges you as a board for creative input. Do you know how it feels to have your little sister praised by your father whilst he completely forgets you exist?

It's not a good feeling man ;__;
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I find it hilarious that moot claims one of his favorite boards is /i/ when it is SO fucking broken and always has been.

"every time i come back to i after a few weeks, it's broken again and theres a new fix. im tired of this, moot keeps breaking it, the target keeps moving, i'm not changing anything on my end 4chan keeps changing. i'm sick of it"

That pretty much sums up how I feel about /i/. Seriously moot get your fucking act together. Abd to add insult to injury he goes ahead and promotes hist ridiculous drawquest crap on /i/. Are you fucking serious?
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Bumpan. This thread needs to be seen.
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Keep on bumping.
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Don't mind me.

BUMP
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boompin it up man
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>>569034
Java is shit. He's not going to fix it.
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>>570662
Why not? Every other oekaki site has a working version of shi?
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You would seriously think Moot would have a better app on /i/ considering Canvas.
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>>570664
>Java is shit

Literally all there is to it. The only reason he hasn't switched it over to some sort of inlay version of Canv.as is because of all the accusations of Jewry that would occur as a result.
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>>570698
What does canv.as have to do with anything?

Just make Shi work.
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>>570701
I bring it up because Canv.as works, and the shi painter doesn't. It's apparently too much of a hassle to fix.

If everyone on /i/ could come to a consensus that they just want something to draw with, and not specifically a fixed version of the shi painter, I'm sure he would listen.
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>>570715
We want shi-painter, or another comparative application. It doesn't really matter. I never tried canvas. But if it doesn't have all the options that shi does, then I wouldn't be for it. Or any other application for that matter.
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>>568152

No, it's really just Moot programming everything.
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Nothing to see here.

Bump
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bumping once more

Pls, moot
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Desperately bumping.
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Final bump from me.
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not from /i/ but I support this thread
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bumpyyy
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Seriously moot, if you have enough time to fuck around with /v/ you have enough time to try to fix /i/
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>>572655
>moot
>fixing anything
bump
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Bumper.
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moot pls, help them
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God, you guys are tearing my heart strings ;__;
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>>573456
Moot = Claus
/i/ = Hinawa
/i/ users = Lucas.
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Bumping to page 0
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please moot don't ignore us
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Pray 4 /i/
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supporting the cause
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the thread is elready 6 days old and still no response
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Entire board is based on that app isn't it?
Bump in hope of help for /i/.
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The thread went a whole week without admin attention. Given the benefit of the doubt, that Moot is simply too busy to check on /q/. I'd still say it's more likely that shi will never get fixed.

If any one else wants to take up the cause, then your efforts will be appreciated. However, this is my final bump.
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>>577208
well I'm staying.
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Day 8; evening;
Still no response. I have hope they will come soon.
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Mr OP. ever think of looking at the FAQ, my child?


contact a moderator on IRC at #4chan @ Rizon. Moderators are channel ops (@), half-ops (%), and voiced users (+).
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>>577671
>>>/i/404436

if only it was THAT easy
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>>577856
That post made me sad.

/i/ has been a part of 4chan since day 1. ;_;
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>>577375
Me too because as >>577661 said, we just need hope.
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Dawn of day 10
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Find me a drop-in replacement for Shi-Painter and I'll look into it.

>>577861
>/i/ has been a part of 4chan since day 1. ;_;
No it hasn't.
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>>579840
yes it has newfag
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>>579840
I've not given it much thought. First thing that comes to mind is Chibipaint. Perhaps that could work?
http://www.chibipaint.com/
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>>579857
>ChibiPaint is still the "alpha stage" of its development. Which means it's not finished and will continue to evolve as the development continues.
>Latest release: 0.7.11.2 (01/27/2008)

Its vaporware/abandonware. Maybe we can get a capable programmer to build further on the source code though, seeing as it's missing some shi-painter features wich are vital to the board culture.
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>>579840
Why don't you hire a dev to create one? I'm pretty sure somebody from your Canv.as exploits would be capable.
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>>570698
Well java IS shit. Do not make new software in java. In fact, if you don't play minecraft, you should uninstall java right now (I'm serious).
See: http://java-0day.com/ (a 0-day means a vulnerability that can be exploited by anyone to install stuff in your computer, even if it's fully updated). Even a flash or a native app would be better.

Convince an HTML5 guru to make a painter app (or find one) and you're done.
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>>579840
how about this?

http://www.ninechime.com/products/
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I hope there's something new or at least there would be a fix. I really like /i/ despite the slow pace of it.
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>>579840
Mootykins, if you're still listening to us, can you add the ability to embed flashes into the thread instead of having to open it full screen in another tab?
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>/i/ - Invasions
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>>580300
No.
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>>580300
not now, not later, not ever.
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>>579840
Not to spoon feed you or anything, but talk to the admin to Paint Acquaint.
He at least developed an applet to save on the site, and server hosting.

timnuwin@gmail.com

If you're to lazy for that then can you at least update the stickies? They're outdated and misused at this point.
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I found 4chan long ago purely because of /I/ and subsequently discovered /m/ and /tg/.
Yet I can't go there because of that goddamn socket issue.
I just want to doodle cute girls doing questionable things again.

First time I've seen a legitimate site issue on /q/, and it's been struggling for days to even be noticed, and when moot appears, he tells us to fix it.
Come on, there's only like twenty of us but come on.
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fourteen days.
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We also need to stop people coming in from sfw boards to dump their porn.

But firstly, replace shi painter.
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>>584184
It's one thread, very organized and noninvasive.

PS: Fix it, moot, you know you want to.
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day 16
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>>579855
meanwhile at day 1
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>>585637
In day 1 Anime and Random were the same board.
I've only been here 5 years and even I know that
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>>585637
>meanwhile at day 1
This wasn't day one.

>>585861
I'm proud.
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>>585875
Hi, moot. Have you gotten a chance to check out the programs we linked?
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>>585637
>/g/ - guro

I don't know what is more disgusting, that or the neckberds who inhabit /g/ now.
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>>580285
>Mootykins, if you're still listening to us, can you add the ability to embed flashes into the thread instead of having to open it full screen in another tab?
We can definitely do this for /f/. Not sure if we want to do it for off-site SWFs, but we'll consider it.

Any consensus on what the best oekaki replacement software is?
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>>586404
I like the canv.as setup...
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>>586404
what's your opinion on MLP on /f/, it often is pretty annoying when people post it and don't mark it as such. Personally though I wish they didn't post that stuff at all.
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>>586404
"consensus"? No...
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>>586426
>I like the canv.as setup...
Can't port that, it's proprietary/not portable.

>>586427
>what's your opinion on MLP on /f/
Against the rules -- report it.
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>>586440
>it's proprietary
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>>586440
> Against the rules -- report it.
but then where the fuck can we do it?
....consider giving /mlp/ a small flash board pu top then maybe?
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>>586490
>2 mlp boards
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>>586504
not what I was implying. I meant a section up top of /mlp/ on /mlp/ that acted like /f/ but smaller.
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>>586504
Hetchel!
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>>586440
>>what's your opinion on MLP on /f/
>Against the rules -- report it.
What's your opinion on flashes not directly pertaining to Japanese culture, i.e. the majority of uploaded flashes?
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>>586511
Oh, when you said up top I thought you were referring to the board directory.
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>>586490
>....consider giving /mlp/ a small flash board pu top then maybe?
No. It would be used for nothing but pony porn flashes.
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>>586490
perhaps consider this,
make a flash thread on /mlp/ and just link flash animations from sites like swfchan or dagobah
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>>586490
Or how about you stop watching that show, there are others you can watch but you have to watch the one moot hates and be a special snowflake.
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>>586677
>the one moot hates
you mean the one that 99% of 4chan hates

the reason that rule 15 exists is that for one, it doesn't belong on other boards and because it was being shitposted everywhere. They should be thankful moot even gave them a board.
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Why the fuck are you cockmunchers talking about MLP? This is about /i/, gtfo.
Now which oekaki can we all agree that is the best? Can someone post some that we should test?
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>>586679
I agree. even this thread got derailed by horsefuckers complaining. Moot should ban the fuckers on sight.
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>>586686
I don't know any other comparable programs. All I've seen are either worse than shi. Or a modded version of shi. It appears as if many sites use a modded version that works for them.

Or they just copy this >>580061
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>>579840
How much would you be willing to pay for a modern HTML5 Shi-Painter replacement?
People don't really do this stuff for free anymore since they can put a little more effort and hustle in and get phat VCbucks instead.
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>>586711
There has to be some wild dude out there with a passion for art, and enough coding prowess, who can put it together for free... right?
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It`s just going to break apart every time there is a change in the infrastructure, i`m guessing.
Is there any way to log the process, to find out what cog falls out of the machinery every time?
If we can`t fix it or easily replace it, then can we at least make fixing it easier?
Regardless, thanks for everything Moot.
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>>586440
>mlp on /f/
>against the rules
why? if it is a flash shouldn't it be allowed on the board? if not, where are the nor/mlp/eople going to put their flashes?
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>>585637
>lolikon
why did we ever get rid of that board?
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>>586735
moot got tired of CP dumps.
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>>586730
On external flash hosters.
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So these are our only two options?
http://www.chibipaint.com/

http://www.ninechime.com/products/
(Wacintaki Poteto)

Anyone know which is better? If not, fuck it, just choose one, Moot
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>>586771
In order to use Wacintaki Poteto, he will essentially have to set up a completely different board. Unless he knows how to mod it to work on the site.
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>>586771
Gonna throw in my vote for Chibi. It's fairly straight forward and quite friendly.
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>>586771
I vote chibipaint.

For /i/!
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I visited some sites, and it seems chibipaint doesn't allow you to view animations, but there is also PaintBBS that we can try. I dont know if it is the same as shi-painter though.

http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA016309/paintbbs/pbbs.html

If paintbbs fails, we just go with chibipaint.
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I agree with >>587041

Try paintBBS. if it doesn't work immediately just go with Chibipaint, seeing it seems to be the easiest solution.

If the majority of /i/ reject it we can look into a supported replacement, but as of now, anything that isn't shipainter is an improvement
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>>587383
it has only a few tools.
I for one really like that shi has a lot of them
if only paintbbs also had that, it would be perfect


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