Because everything is in a general now, there is no room for creativity. It's the same shit day-in, day-out. The days of awesome power ranking, friendly discussion, producing hilarious OC, and having a sports-bar styled website that everyone enjoys are gone. We used to have such a great place to discuss sports. When you wanted to talk about something, you started a thread, and sure as hell there would be a lot of participation. When there was nothing to talk about, people would head over to power ranking threads, space threads, Kornheiser, and various other off-topic threads. But you know what? These threads were fucking enjoyable, and everyone on /sp/ wanted them except for moot (clearly you've shown us you don't want this). These threads are where all of /sp/'s incredibly good content came from, and it's what made /sp/ a local name on 4chan. It's why /sp/ was known as the best board. Moderation fucked it all up.

On topic threads that have historically worked in a certain way have been destroyed, too. /cric/ threads have always had an amazing balance of on topic and friendly bants. This is because it goes with the sport of cricket. It's slow, so there isn't always something to talk about, so accordingly those participating in threads like to go a bit off topic, and it resulted in a thread with massive bro-culture between Aussies and Britbottles. There was a lot of great content produced, and a massive camaraderie formed between Australians and Brits. These threads were fucking amazing, and as a result the Ashes (cricket event) threads were massively hyped and everyone looked forward to them. However, earlier in the week the mod told us exactly how they were going to be run from now on. Half the thread was banned for 3 days because we got a bit off topic. Despite everyone in the thread condoning and enjoying the off-topic discussion, the moderator told us how we should run. This goes against 4chan's philosophy -- or, at least it's old philosophy.

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Yep, RIP /tv/.

/sp/ isn't the only board that went this way. This happened to most other boards. Every board had its own culture, and every board had fun in different ways. Every board (with the possible exception of a few, ie. more populated ones like /b/ and /v/) was able to self moderate, and the users were able to determine the content. Again, this is what made 4chan's boards so good. Yet, for some reason you've decided against that, moot. You've decided to change the way 4chan has operated for years and change what made 4chan good. Now the mods dictate what goes.

I'm going to be blunt: 4chan is awful now. It's a stale, washed-up website. No randomness, no fun, no new content, nothing. /s4s/ is a prime example of how shit the website has become. /s4s/ was supposed to be an April Fools joke, yet, when it was created you saw how amazing the website could be when people got together and were allowed to post what ever they wanted, where the users could dictate the content. Tell me, what was /s4s/'s topic? That's right, there wasn't one -- the users dictated it. And you know what? /s4s/ was good. Those first 12 or so hours were some of the most fun a lot of people have had on 4chan in a long time. And even you realised how good that board was, moot. It's why you kept it. Now, it's just like all the other boards, spouting overused content and forcing shitty memes. But I think it's a good example of how good a board can be if you let the users dictate its direction. I also think it's a good example of how far 4chan has fallen. The fact that you kept the board shows that you want the old 4chan back.

So what's stopping you, moot? What's stopping you from bringing the old 4chan back? It can easily be done. Boards like /sp/ can easily be fixed by allowing the users to self moderate, not by having some faggot sit there 24/7 deleting what ever he feels shouldn't be there. Stopping generals would also be a great way to allowing actual sports discussion to flourish. The same goes for other boards as well. Let the users self moderate. Have the janitors delete pornography and NSFW content from the blue boards but let the users report the posts they don't want. If a thread has 3 reports, but 400 posts. Why delete it? It shows that a lot more people actually want the thread there. If an offtopic thread at 2 in the morning has 450 replies, why the fuck delete it? People obviously want it. Let the users self moderate like in the past. Let us dictate the flow of content on our respective boards. Don't let the janitors do it because they've destroyed the website. We've tried the harsh moderation and it's failed. It's done nothing but turn 4chan into reddit 2.0. No proper discussion, no fun, and no fresh content. The people who don't like it are shitting up the website as well by trying to show their distaste for the moderation. They do this by flooding boards with shitty lel and doge threads. Shit that doesn't belong here either.

So answer me this, moot. I beg you, just give us an answer. Why are you trying to destroy 4chan? When did 4chan become some super serious website? Are you trying to appeal to a larger audience so you can make money to turn a profit for the first time? If that's the case then just fucking let us donate so we can have our old website back. This can honestly not be something you want. You've been here since the start, man. You saw the glory days of 4chan. Why have you gone the other direction and destroyed that?

>b-b-but muh 4chan

If you don't like it, leave. Grow the fuck up otherwise.

> Board Culture

Hello yes newfags plz to, Board Culture is your new excuse to shitpost and its the worst, following the rules isn't hard, /b/ has always existed for your "Culture" and as such I ask you to fuck off

Things were better before you faggots showed up

>>698382
le downboated xD

Allow me to introduce you to a classic, OP:

"TL;DR"

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>>698382
>>698383
No, fuck YOU guys.

This is an image board. We have 10 pages on /sp/. Stop trying to force everything into a General, this is a western message board mentality that imageboards strive to break out out of. Stop this, pls.

>>698382
Nice response, faggot. We shouldn't have to leave. 4chan has operated in a certain way for years. We've all grown accustomed to it and we liked it that way. Newfags like you have no right to come here and change it by begging for faggot moderation like you have.


>>698383
No, I'm not a newfag. Anyone who's been on this website for more than 4 years will tell you that all boards have had their own culture. Culture =/= shitposting. Shitposting is what you have now, where faggots make doge threads to try and stick it to the mods. No one wants this. We just want our old boards back. You don't understand, though because you came here probably 2 years ago (max) and want 4chan to be the website you came from.

good job australia.

I like how there's this thread that's bitching Moot out for too much moderation on /sp/ and then there's the doge thread that's bitching Moot out for too little moderation on /sp/. No pleasing some people.

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>tfw /fit/ is still amazing and has board culture and low moderation
the only board I like

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>>698376

yeah, RIP.

>>698392
No there isn't. Go to /sp/ right now and you'll see exactly what I'm talking about.

There are 8 generals on the front page. The rest of the board is just a spam of threads with nothing in the OP other than some faggot picture and the word "doge". The board is fucking dead.

>>698390
> Culture =/= shitposting

Off-topic culture = shitposting

>>698394

>a board full of faggots
>good

Pick one and only one

Can someone explain to me why football manager 2012/13 threads are allowed on /sp/? They are a vido game general. They should be on /vg/.

>>698397

They moderate generals and let shitty inactive threads rule the roost.

>>698397
Exactly. Generals suck out the point of threads on /sp/. It leaves 9 pages of nothing to discuss. If you want to fix the shitposting problem, kill generals on /sp/, atleast for the major sports.

>>698399
That's not true at all. It just shows that you have no understanding of how the website used to run.

I'm from /sp/, linked by the Australian to here

We need more moderation, fuck off topic posting

>>698399
This.

>tfw no gf threads
>power rankings threads
>worldstar threads
>feel threads

How are any of these related to sports? And please, PLEASE don't give me that board culture bullshit.

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>>698376
We have our memories, I guess.

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RIP /sp/

No more wshh
No more power rankings
No more ass
No more event bowls

It's been a ride, but rulefags and the conclave of Stasi mods won't let us have fun. There's literally no benefit of going here over any other heavily moderated labor camp.

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>>698400
>a board full of faggots
but that's what makes it so good, fun and diverse

they allow video games
they allow waifu / GF text threads
they allow facebook/okcupid trolling
>tfw is allowed

it's the best board by far mang

>>698406
WSHH threads are clearly sports related. You're just stupid if you can't see that.

Why doesn't anyone see that Generals are the root of all these problems?

>>698402
No, Generals hardly receive any moderation at all. Most of them are just filled with outlaws who go to them to shit them up. Generals shouldn't be there in the first place because they go against everything that an imageboard is.

>>698406
You've just shown that you don't know what board culture is. And the fact that you think it doesn't exist just shows you don't belong on 4chan in the first place.

>tfw no gf threads
These are shitposting threads started by faggots to spite moderators.

>power rankings threads
These have been used on /sp/ since the board's creation. Power ranking are semi-sports related because the power rankings started from sport.

>worldstar threads
Something the entire board wants (or wanted before /sp/ was flooded by rulefags and reddit faggots).

>feel threads
>saying this twice.
These are shitposting threads.

You're missing the point. 4chan is not some super serious website where we need to be 100% on topic. Let people go off topic a bit, let us have our fun. That's the entire point of this fucking website.

>OP getting BTFO in his own thread

le downvoted u shitposter fag!!!!!!

if u wanna SHITPOST go to a SHITPOSTING forum like /b/

i come to 4chan for SERIOUS SPORTS discussions and if i need to scroll past one more off topic post to find my desired general thread i'm gonna ~freak out~

4chan is way better now, i only need to post with my trip up in the NFL general thread like once or twice and now EVERY NFL fan has seen my trip and knows that i am an oldfag, before i had to spam in every single NFL thread just to get fans of different teams to recognize me

if u don't like it u can get out u fucking shitposter!

_______________________________

Reddit Army
<<Atheist Alliance>>
President of the /sp/ Philadelphia Phillies Fan Club
PRAY FOR TRAYVON

Can we compromise at no longer deleting event bowls? Tsunami Bowl, Riot Bowl, Get Away With It Bowl, those threads MADE /sp/ and they're always the fastest threads, which show that the vast majority of people want them. Just let us have our event bowls.

>>698408
no more fat americans near me

>>698414

uh, yes they do. 200+ posts getting deleted is moderation, dear friend.

if they weren't getting bombed by mods and janitors then the board wouldn't be in as much of a state

'm from /sp/, linked by the Australian to here

Fuck the mods, Been going on /sp/ since 2009 we didn't want you then and we don't want you now. If the newfaggots don't like board culture they can fuck right on off back to reddit

>>698413
I do, that's why most of my post was talking about generals.

>>698420
You're saying they moderate nothing but generals. Generals shouldn't even fucking be there in the first place.

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Mods = Democrats

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>>698406
>there are people like this and they haven't been uncommon on /sp/ since mid 2012

WHERE DID YOU ALL COME FROM

>>698424

That's your opinion, and no one else's on the entire board. Unstructured discussion is fucking pointless. Generals + splinter threads with less moderation means a healthier board.

>>698414
>No, Generals hardly receive any moderation at all. Most of them are just filled with outlaws who go to them to shit them up. Generals shouldn't be there in the first place because they go against everything that an imageboard is.

THANK YOU anon for pointing this out.

Of all the problems, Generals are the worst. They lead to 9 blank fucking pages of no sports, so it'll be filled with shitposting since newcomers think they can only discuss in generals. So shitposting is amplified by 100x to fill the empty 9 pages since the mindset is that you can't talk about sports elsewhere outside of a general.

I for one, am glad 4chan has died. I can finally go outside.

>>698414
/sp/ was great for a while.
The problem is that at some point people started to think they could post anything on /sp/ and justify it under 'board culture.' It was making /sp/ into /b/ with the occasional sports thread. The mods then went out of control trying to fix things and accidentally fucked it up worse, but don't pretend it was so great before they intervened.

>>698429

so much delusion.

>>698428
>That's your opinion, and no one else's on the entire board. Unstructured discussion is fucking pointless. Generals + splinter threads with less moderation means a healthier board.
>no one else's

So all the people here complaining about the generals are "no one else". Do you even comprehend how image board works? Our opinion is the right opinion because that's how fucking image boards works. How is a board healthy is if it has 9 blank pages due to Generals? Explain this to me, wannabe Modzi?

>>698417
Let us have our event bowls back. Please. This would be a fine compromise. They were part of /sp/ from the start. We self moderate it.

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I'll pitch in with a thought.
/sp/ doesn't need to be 100% unmoderated, but there do need to be limits as to what moderators can do.
Rules to rule the rulers, if you will.
To put it plainly, let's try to leave as little to interpretation as possible, otherwise whatever's left fucks over us as users.

My request is simple.

Keep
>Power rankings and /sp/ culture; off topic banter included

Don't Keep
>Tripculture drama, as can be seen in all the active generals
>Spam
>Obviously illegal or unacceptable content like gore and shit (/b/-tier shit)

The trip culture drama is the worst, because the generals have sucked up serious discussion, and killed it off because too many people care about what Mauer's sex is. I believe that tripping to represent your team is acceptable, but the shit stops when people want to talk about how my farts smell. That's not remotely related to /sp/, sports, or our culture. It's essentially reverse avatarfagging, a banned activity, because people are doing nothing but giving discussion killing attention to someone for no good reason. I'm not saying we remove generals, I'm saying we remove tripcultures. I'm not advocating for forced anon either, we just need to make it a punishable offense to start and sustain this kind of behavior.
Finally, let us have our banter. It will always be there, and sports aren't always on for everyone, if someone wants to have a sports discussion that's not obscure, then there will be discussion. The only possible way those threads could sink is if someone starts spamming, which is unacceptable. Right now OC is all but halted thanks to the current state. Please consider my words, and get back to us, your users
-Anon

>>698426
I don't know, but I wish they would leave. They've successfully destroyed our board.

>>698428
>and no one else's on the entire board
Not true at all. The only people who like the generals are the people who have recently arrived here. The rigid discussion is what has taken all the fun and creativity out of /sp/. It's why the board hasn't produced anything good in a year, it's why there is very little sports discussion. It's why the board is in the state it's in.

You do realise there are 10 pages of threads for a reason, right? We don't need to condense ourselves into 1 and a half fucking pages of threads. If you want to talk about something, make a thread. That's how the board has operated for years.

>Unstructured discussion is fucking pointless
It's not unstructured and never was. You have no idea how the board ran in the past. If anything it was more structured.

>piece of relevant news
>make a thread
>discuss said news
>leave to a new thread

That's how the board used to work.

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Don't even bother trying to argue with these people who defend the nazi modding. They don't even go on /sp/ in the first place.

>>698426
the olympics

>caring this much about 4chan

>>698437

Nice Godwin's Law argument, you massive fucking idiot.

Not everyone thinks the same as you, maybe 1 or 2 people, but I can assure you that the majority are in favour of generals. Dumb shit.

>>698439
It's not rigid though. It's only rigid because of heavy moderation. Moderation in generals happens much more than the shitty one post doge sports threads that you fucking idiots make. They're not creative, so stop doing it.

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>>698426
its some prick who never visited spee. just some fucking janitor that probably patrols some fruity board full of cartoons for Asian kids

>>698441
I'm sick of it, man. I want moot to see exactly how we fucking feel about the state of /sp/. The people who've been here for years. All he is seeing is the fucking /q/ faggots who have been here for a year and want /sp/ to be reddit.

>>698438
This sums it up very well.


>>698444
yeah, I do care. It's the website where I've spent my free time on for the last 5+ years. I like it here, it's the most fun website on the internet, and it's uniqueness is refresing. I'm tired of seeing it being killed by rule faggots and reddit cunts.

>>698444
This. OP confirmed for no life.

>>698445
>Nice Godwin's Law argument, you massive fucking idiot.

>Not everyone thinks the same as you, maybe 1 or 2 people, but I can assure you that the majority are in favour of generals. Dumb shit.

So prove me wrong then. What are we supposed to do with the Generals, and the 9 blank pages of nothing? Please, wannabe mod. Tell me.

>>698439
Also, lol ur a newfag xDDDD

Why are you faggots so immature

>>698449
Not responding to your Godwin's Law bullshit

>>698448
>>698444
>>698448
>>698444
>Frequents /q/ of all fucking boards
>Has any footing in regards to dishing out criticism

>>698445
>the shitty one post doge sports threads that you fucking idiots make
>you idiots
>you

You do realise I have been complaining about those threads as well? Did you even read my massive fucking post? I want /sp/ back the way it was, where culture could flourish. You're so fucking new and retarded that you get culture confused with shitposting. Doge threads are fucking shitposting and retarded. It's a forced meme that started on fucking tumblr. A perfect indication of how shit this website has become. We want the old /sp/ back. You have no fucking idea what it was like because you were never there for it.

>It's not rigid though
Again, you're missing the point because you can't into comprehension or understanding a post. Generals defeat the purpose and setup of the board.

>>698450
>Not responding to your Godwin's Law bullshit

>use term Modzi
>get butthurt over it
>claim some epic Usenet law from the 90's

Oh right, you're not responding because you have no counter. You don't go to /sp/ so you have no fucking idea how the board works.

Kill the generals, let the popular self moderate in the vein of /a/.

>>698450
It's not immaturity. If you actually read my post you would know what I'm talking about when I say you're a newfag. You don't know what the website used to be like. You've been here since 2011, latest, and you think you understand what it used to be like. You think doge threads are culture, you think lel threads are what "shitposters" want. You confused what we want with shitposting. You're an idiot.

>>698451
Truth hurts don't it? /sp/ isn't going to change because a vocal minority can't handle change. It's fine the way it is.Either deal with it or leave. It's that simple.

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Anyone want some? I have enough for everybody.

>>698372 (OP)
>>698374
>>698378
>>698381
Sorry Australia your post is going to fall on deaf ears. They dont care about 4chan anymore and probably wont even respond to this. /q/ueer rats are going to gargle on dicks the entire time and the mods will think they are doing a good job.

RIP /sp/ /tv/ and /v/ its been fun

>>698452

Listen dumb shit, I'm not going to read everything you write because it's just a load of convoluted bullshit and I really don't have time for a shitposter like you. The way /sp/ will be back to the way it was is if moderation in generals stop being so strict. Oh look, ur a new fag lel xDD

>Generals defeat the purpose and setup of the board.
ur New!!!

>>698457
'u mad' now, you fucking retards are incapable of arguing. And there's epic too.

I'll respond like you respond.

U MAD? UJELLY BRO? GENERELS DA BESS FAGLORD. SUCK MAH BALLS, MODZI XDDDD

>>698458
Epic, simply eperino.
>You've been here since 2011, latest
Epic.

I think doge threads are culture. Misquoting me now are you? Fantastic. Go back to /b/.

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>the faggy mods fw he deletes the glorious "Liberalism is a mental disorder" threads

>>698452
> I want /sp/ back the way it was, where culture could flourish.
Before the mods intervened, /sp/ was starting to turn into sports/random. revert it now and it would be all doge, feel threads, and inane, off-topic bullshit (and not the fun kind, the /b/-tier kind).

You guys ask for more moderation and when you get it you want less? You guys had your chance at "self moderation". You fucked up and now you deal with the consequences. Enjoy your shit pile of a board.

>>698465
I don't have a problem with /sp/ being sports and off topic at 2 am in the morning when there aren't any sports on. The challenge comes from moderation to prevent sports/random at all hours.

>>698466
>You guys
Stop this. A handful of faggots dont make up an entire board

>>698463
But...you never answered why....you actually didn't counter me at all. You keep refusing to answer.

Try going on /sp/, kiddo, you might see what we see.

>>698463
>I'm not going to read everything you write
So, you're responding to me, but you didn't even read my original post. If you actually did, you would probably realise we both want very similar things.

>a shitposter like you
Define shitposting. Seriously, what do you think shitposting is?

You've clearly been fucking told because you're just resorting to childish responses and no thought-out responses.

>tfw /mlp/ is getting the same treatment as /sp/ and /tv/

I know how you gents feel.

I hope your janitors stroke out at their computer desks.

>>698469

U MAD BRAH! U JELLY BRAH! U DON'T GO ON /SP/ BRAH! ME GUSTA ROOSTAH! XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

>>698471
Hypocrite. I never advocated doge threads but you said I did. You're the one who made this thread degenerate into shitflinging.

>>698459
>Vocal minority
This thread is on /q/ everyday you smelly dumb waterhead.

Many people have left for greener pastures or flat out left the 4chins altogether. You're such a dicklips, no wonder this site is shitting the bed. Tell me this: do you or have you frequented /sp/?

>There has been a massive push for moderation on /sp/ that no one has wanted.
Stopped reading there.
Off topic bullshit doesn't belong on any board ever, otherwise every board might as well become /b/ 2.0.

>>698459
>vocal minority
>most of /sp/ completely upset over current state of over-moderated, general filled, shit board

Have you not seen all our threads on /q/?

>>698466
No one asked for more moderation. It was a very small group of people who recently discovered /sp/. There has always been a push for more moderation on /sp/. Because of it, retards resorted to spamming the board with shitty threads and that's what led people to cry on /q/. No one wanted what we have now. People wanted the shitty spam to stop and for us to go back to the way /sp/ used to be.

>>698473
I never said you wanted doge threads. I said you confused doge threads with /sp/ culture. You think that I want those shitty fucking threads, and you're wrong.

>>698459
I don't think you frequent /sp/ enough. I post all the time and I am hard pressed to find a day where people don't talk like this.
>>698463
You do realize that belittling your opponent is also making zero effort to refute his statements? Please state your opinion and be honest about how long you've been using /sp/ for. I implore you.

>>698478

Just shut the fuck up already. You and your faggot friend keep 2v1ing me and it's so fucking dull everytime. Just come back with the same ur new and ur dumb bullshit everytime. Braindead fuckfaces.

>>698476
>Stopped reading there

Why? It is true. And people can't stand this new /sp/ 2.0 GANGNAM reddit style shit.. /sp/ was never even remotely close to /b/. You're a fucking moron.

>>698476
You're showing how little you know about the old 4chan. Little moderation led to board being great, not /b/ 2.0. Were you here for the start of /sp/ up until 2011? It was a great board. And it didn't resemble /b/ slightly.

>>698480
Calm down, bro. I'm just saying how majority of /sp/ feels. You think I'm braindead because you're too retarded to actually read my posts.

You are new because you were not there for the old /sp/. Why are you getting mad at me for saying this? You think that we want some shitposting, /b/ 2.0, when in reality we just want what we used to have.

>>698479

2v1 again, pathetic.

>>698480
>Durr don't attack me!!

You're a retard and don't know shit about spee yet want to impose your view on it.

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>>698480
>BAWWWWWWW MY OPINION IS UNPOPULAR STOP GANGING UP ON ME BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

>>>/reddit/

>>698480

>2 on 1 no fair guys :(

Fucking christ...

>>698487
Oh god, my sides. This guy.

>>698487
Dude, are you fucking 12 years old? You want to impose your views on /sp/ but can't even give a proper response when people retort your posts?

>>698493
Hey great post

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>>698462
>/v/
>ever good in all the history of 4chan

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>>698487
>The city of this idiot

captcha: chuckles mpatnt

Mauer you take this board way too fucking seriously.

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>Being so mad about having to follow the rules you wrote and 8 paragraph+ essay about how mad you are

>>698493
Ladies and gentlemen, this is the type of person that has ruined /sp/.

I hope you're seeing this, moot. I hope you are seeing what you've done to this website.

I support the OP

Stahp it moot

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>>698501

>gets mad when people disagree and gang up on him

>>698488

Learn to read, numbnuts.

>>698490
It isn't fair if a gang of /b/tards come in from le epuck raid and call me ratard and mad and dumb and new when it's false and libellous

>>698492
>are u 12 dude xDDD
fucking hell, what else are you going to pull out of this rabbit hat of immature insults? I am giving proper responses, you guys are just shitflinging and forcing this thread into degenerative discussion.

>>698499
le city maymay
Epic.

>>698502
LE LADIES AND LE GENTLEBROS :o) I PRESENT TO YOU LAY EPIC MAYMAY COMIC'

K'M ADDRESING YOU SIR MOOT!

>>698500
>>698501
>board made to discuss things on 4chan about what you like, don't like, etc.
>upset about current state of a particular board

"LOLOLOLO U maddie, why u so serius? >Being this seris on an imageboard"

>>698501
No, it's not about the rules. It's about the fact that this website has been absolutely destroyed and the state of /sp/. Read the "essay" before you say shit like this.

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>>698372 (OP)
i wish i had some sort of clap gif but all i have is this.

Anyway, moot doesn't care. He WANTS it to be reddit 2.0.

Why do you think he got rid of noko and implemented an extension? He wants to make the site more user-friendly for your typical underage /b/-tard so he can sell that 4chan pass bullshit.


And take a good look at the new banners. Top quality eh?

>>698506
Why do you throw such fits and not refute our claims? This isn't helping you at all.

>>698372 (OP)
>>698374

Agreed 100%, /sp/ used to be my place to read and post in great threads (sports or not) and I always had a lot of fun, as did everyone involved. I'm thinking Moot is trying to 'tone down' 4chan in a result to get more interest in selling the website. He's started working in ads and clearly doesn't seem to give a shit about the site anymore.

I completely understood the idea of passes, and I was actually happy to see him make back his money invested in maintaining the website all these years. Now though, everything has fucking changed. 4chan is sterile, the things that made 4chan a great place to spend your time are essentially gone.

Seriously, why the fuck do you want to moderate the shit out of boards when the vast majority of people liked them how they were? Reeks of trying to clean up the site for potential buyers.

>>698476
I understand that you don't want to see /sp/ devolve into people smearing shit on the walls, but slow down. I posted earlier that /sp/ should have moderation, but we simply need to make sure that we have a list set out for the moderators to avoid poor interpretations. Unfortunately nobody has considered this sort of plan, understandably, because there may always be a case that's out of our expectations, but I think we need to make sure that the moderators clearly understand what is good and bad.

I will restate it.

Keep
>Power rankings and /sp/ culture
>Off topic banter

Don't Keep
>Spam
>/b/-tier content such as gore, CP, personal army requests, shock threads, scat, and other revolting content
>Pornographic images (It's a blue board after all)
>Tripculture (Pointless attention to a specific poster when it has nothing to do with sports, like posters trying to determine the scent of my farts)

With this in mind, please tell me what you think of it.

>>698480
Unlike the other guy here who has legitimate concerns, you have contributed virtually nothing. I'm still waiting on you to establish a rebuttal, or much of a platform for that matter. The point of /q/ is to discuss, not to shut the fuck up.

>>698506
/q/ueers ladies and gentleman

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>/sp/ thinking it's elite board

top lyl

Remove the fucking flags moot. They are main problem. People memearrow everything they can >we; >us there is no need for this epic banter.

>>698394
Lucky you, most of the boards I browsed got hit.

>/tv/ - Banned everything, causing an influx of shit
>/mlp/ - Banned Milky, tulpa, fluffy
Even though I didn't like it, removing has thrown everything off.

>>698510

Keyword: our

You're ganging up on me like a bunch of faggots. Of course my argument looks like shit, I'm being silenced and chastised by the majority.

>>698509
That was one of my questions, and I wish moot qould just dignify us with a simple response. If he needs the money, just fucking let us donate.

>>698515
>posting that image as if it means anything
All it does is help my argument. If you read my original posts you would see that I am upset about the doge spam. This shit never used to be on /sp/. Like I said, the state of /sp/ is a fucking disgrace.

>>698512
We never had any of the things in the don't keep pile aside from triptard drama, and that has just escalated because of generals where they circlejerk each other, NFL one in particular.

>>698518
Well, shouldn't that show you something? If the majority of the people in this thread are complaining about something, and no one is backing you up, the writing is clearly on the wall as to what the will of the majority is.

>>698521
I know, but the point is to spell out what mods should be doing. A constitution of sorts, if you will.

>>698518
You're not being silenced, you fucking faggot. It's not hard to respond to us all, really. You're just for the first time seeing how /sp/ actually feels about the state of the website.

>>698521
This. /sp/ was perfectly fine before the draconian moderation. And the only people who think otherwise are people who weren't there to see /sp/.

>>698512

Oh look, more immature bullshit from some faggot who thinks he's got 4chan all sussed out.

>>698523
So you're saying the minority opinion should be completely and utterly ignored?

>>698518
Nahh, your argument is just shit, coming from a faggot.

Git gud r git #rekt

>>698512
Your forgot to get rid of feels. Like every board needs to.

The problem is that there is off-topic banter that is total shit, and it should be removed. However, there's no way for the mods to tell which are which (few actually frequented /sp/), so therein lies the problem. I think moot has said something to that effect.
I would, however, rather that the mods tone it down entirely and allow some shit through than keep things the way they are.

>>698520
>If he needs the money, just fucking let us donate.
He's very independent and probably doesn't care about us.

/v/ has called to a similar fate of a influx of redditors. Hell, just a couple of minuets ago, there was a guy begging for a game on steam. It turns out his steam name is a reddit name and we found out his ponysona and that he was a pathetic casual who plays shit games. We literally have redditors. We share your feels, /sp/. All as one living, breathing, feeling body.

>>698525

Sorry for not responding to your ridiculous convuluted bullshit, you tedious little wankstain on the surface of /sp/'s fine exterior. All we need is a tissue and we can throw you in the bin.

>>698527
>Git gud r git #rekt
This is what I'm dealing with.

>>698518
Instead of whining about it, you could either accept that you have lost or provide an argument and attempt to win someone over to your side. I've spent more time trying to teach you how to argue with us than actually discuss anything meaningful pertaining to the OP. I'm giving you every chance to rebutt my posts, and I'll say it again: Establish your platform, stop getting mad, and try to get back at us with a good argument instead of voicing your frustration at the opposition.

>>698526
The minority opinion, if it is indeed this small, should definitely be tossed aside once it has been considered.

But please, you haven't stated why you think Generals are good. Without the trash /b/-tier condescension and all, I really want to hear it from you why.

>>698526
Dude, what are you even trying? You're not even providing an argument. Why do you continue to post? We just want our old board back and giving proper, thought out posts. All you're doing is making retarded posts like an angry child. You're calling us immature but take a look at yourself. It's fucking sad.

Hi Moot,

>implying you're here

Anyhoo, I'd like to introduce myself as a proud shitposting Australian with a dynamic IP. You can try and ban me if you want, the reality is my router reboots in under 20 seconds. That's pretty much 3 shitposting threads a minute, can your team of faggot janitors keep up? Evidence to date suggests not rly.

P.S It might be nice to free /sp/ a bit, just sayin'.

Yours Sincerely

Rob

>>698516
Fucking faggot janitor kille off PiE

;-;

>>698533
>>698534
>>698535
3v1

Seriously, when are you faggots gonna take me 1 on 1?

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>>698394
/pol/ has great culture and low moderation.
/r9k/ is another board with low moderation, but shit culture.

I usually stay away from /a/ and /v/ now, where it seems as though half of the users there are janitors. They cherry pick discussion threads and remove everything they don't agree with. Off-topic or not, they will delete your post.

>>698536
You are a true warrior and I respect you.

>I broke the rules I agreed to and now I'm upset
Are you assblasted that your "doge" thread got deleted?

>>698536
This is part of what is fucking up /sp/. This is the result of people who hate the moderation, and all it's doing is making /sp/ even worse. It's just a shit feast of generals and lel / doge spam.

>>698540
How about you take the time to respond properly? We'll wait.

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>>698532
>Sorry for not responding to your ridiculous convuluted bullshit, you tedious little wankstain on the surface of /sp/'s fine exterior. All we need is a tissue and we can throw you in the bin.
>This is what I'm dealing with.

Holy faggot, Batman.

>B-B-BUT /SP/ WITHOUT HEAVY MODERATION WAS /B/-TIER

No it wasn't you tremendous faggot /b/ shit starting flooding in when Refmod went ballistic on us.

>>698540
Fun fact: more than one person can express views contrary to yours.

>>698541

Maybe you should change your password from 'isuckdicks' to something that isn't as obvious you massive homolord.

>>698545
LAH FEHDORAY MAHMAY LOL /ARHUTISMH

>>698544
respond to my first post like a mature individual you piece of shit

>>698540
That isn't how an argument works. If your point is actually solid, it can hold up to more than one person questioning it. You don't see world leaders at a press conference just throw up their hands and say
"All of you guys are questioning me! I can only defend my policies if one person is asking questions!"

>>698549
I don't ever remember seeing a person as caboose clobbered as you are...

>>698541
>/pol/ has great culture and low moderation.
Yeah, no. There's definitely a culture, but a culture that gets you banned in other boards can not be qualified as great by site's standards. /pol/ culture is like bronie/dubsfag culture.

>>698549
Dude, you're sitting there throwing insults. You call us immature? My first post way 4 posts long, most of the posts you're responding to have been incredibly well thought out. You just respond with the same shit

>hurr 3v1
>immature
>shitlord homsexual
Friendly reminder to you, moot. This is the type of person you've catered to , while leaving behind /sp/artans who've been here for years.

>>698541
>/r9k/ is another board with low moderation, but shit culture.

in your opinion, most robots love to wallow in that filth

I want dubs back on /v/. They were much better then the useless mods who took the place if dubs. We have to borrow memes from /s4s/ and /mu/ now because mode are awful.

>>698550

They don't call people names there, you massive retarded faggot.

>>698539
>PiE
Which one was that, something in Equestria wasnt it?

>>698554
He doesn't give a shit. Wider audience = more money, regardless of content.

>>>/sp/catalog
Jesus, the generals are the only on-topic threads on that board.
I've never seen such a disgusting shithole, you guys are insulting Reddit why you compare your cesspool to theirs.

>>698557
Oh yes, I'm sure that the golden method that would make Obama finally break would be a reporter calling him a fag. I can't believe that's all the conservative media has needed to do for years!

>>698529
I understand that it's hard to tell, but at times I think we've either got to ignore it or it flies, provided the banter does not follow the criteria listed. If the poster won't let us avoid it, then it falls under spamming. I have no problem at this point eliminating feels threads, because nothing is every really brought to the table from a post really stating ">TFW no gf". I think that threads discussing relationships should be qualified as off topic banter provided they are more specific and well introduced, like "Would you climb a mountain to make a bouquet of wildflowers for your girlfriend?", but if it's introduced with >TFW then the thread is doomed to wallow in shit.
Ultimately my point is simple. We need to give the moderators rules to follow so they don't have to rely on their own uneducated discretion, and also to prevent them from having free reign on /sp/. That is the biggest problem with 4chan as a whole is that moderators are virtually free to delete almost anything at their discretion, and we need to change that.

>>698526
Well if I've got it wrong, what is right? You tell me.

>>698553
The point is, /pol/ and /mlp/ still have culture. It's related to their respective boards and that's a good thing. It's shitty culture, yes, but it's still culture. When you have none of that you get /b/.


>>698560
That's the thing. This is why I want moot to just fucking dignify us with a response. If it's money he's after, PLEASE just let us fucking donate.

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>>698558
Nein, PiE is Ponies in Earth, which has slowed to a fucking crawl and evidently there's only 1 active writer now

>mfw

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I don't think moot is the root of the problem. He's just part of it. We have to work together and find solutions.

>>698565

I don't agree. No culture is better than having one that is inherently terrible.

>>698544
You seem upset brah.

Remind me again how you're politely approaching the over-moderation issue and the results you've achieved so far.

Oh wait, nvm I just remembered. You've not only achieved less than nothing in your crusade, you've also become a poster boy for the continual over-moderation of /sp/ by promoting this faggotry.

/q/ is not a cam-whore repository, pls no more white-knighting. There are no mod privileges on offer here.

>The city of OP

I can report people who shitpost at and within a reasonable time it is dealt with. This has never happened in the history of 4chan. This is fucking great and something 4chan has needed forever.

OP is upset because he can't post whatever he wants on a sports board. That's it. That's all it fucking boils down to. Your refusal to take your off-topic posts elsewhere is pathetic.

Just admit you don't like sports that much. Just fucking admit it right now. You god damn cry babies don't like sports. Broken down to the simplest element, those who don't like /sp/ at this moment just don't like sports.
General threads don't gang up on you and force you to post in them like you pretend they do, the mods don't try to kill the board and make it stale like you pretend they do, the only fucking problem here is YOU. YOU DON'T FUCKING LIKE SPORTS.

I have been here since 2008, when the board moved at a slow crawl. I have to mention this because everytime you faggots go ''OH MY GOD YOU DIDN'T SEE THE EPIC BRO CULTURE ENJOYING YOUR FIRST LE MONTH ON LE 4CHAN REDDITOR!?!?". I've seen the 'bro culture' and it's nothing that can't be replicated on the appropriate boards. Everyone always pretended /sp/ was the best at discussing everything because muh power rankings. But it wasn't.
The air of superiority surrounding this 'bro culture' is obnoxious, I say this as someone who primarily browses /sp/. People from /sp/ would constantly shit talk other boards about being 'more knowledgeable' about their own subject matter, but it wasn't true. You are embarrassingly patriotic about a god damn board on 4chan.

Keep crying bitch nigga. You have to post sports on the sports board and if that bores you then too fucking bad faggot. Nothing is going to change, moot himself agrees that your fucking precious ''current event bowls'' and other equally over-hyped shit are fucking retarded. Get over it and quit acting like you are fighting for some revolution you fucking NERDS.

>>698562
You fucking retarded faggot. This shit is exactly what I'm talking about. We don't want this fucking spam. The state of /sp/ incorporates everything. Read my fucking post, you dogshit.

>>698389
i love the guy that is like

>wait till they sleep

this is exactly what happesn which fucking sucks for ausfag hour

because ausfag hour is the middle of the night for the US so when we get usually post thats when all the fucking shitposting outlaws trying to stick it to the mods come out of the fucking woodwork

like i understand what they are trying to do i get it but for me it sucks i just want to post in /afl/ and /cric/ but the whole board is just filled with fucking le doge...

fuck sake

just free /sp/ so i can post in piece rather than get inundated by the outlaws.

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One problem is the moderation is inconsistent. I've seen perfectly valid threads deleted on a janitors whim.

The second is the some of the new board specific rules, banning actresses pretty much entirely on /tv/ is just stupid, and has led to the shitspam of /hr/. GR15 is the biggest joke ever, and really only serves to validate the Anti-Brony Brotherhood idiots, and give power to the /b/read.

>>698566
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>>698571
see

>>698372 (OP)
>>698374
>>698378
>>698381


>>698572
Dude, I'm watching sport right now. Super rugby semi finals. Footy is on next, and I'm going to be watching that, too.

There is no way you could possibly prefer the /sp/ of today to early 2010. Go there now and its just 10 generals and the rest of the 10 pages just filled with "doge". This is dogshit. Worse than ever before.

>>698416
a look into the mind of a trip

thank you based anon

>>698566
I remember now, I knew that thread, it was alright, I read a few of the fics.

I used to have fun on /jp/. We used to play MMOs together, we used to talk together, we used to have fun together. Now the only reason to go there anymore is browse through the VN thread briefly and leave.

Fucking hell even /a/ has taken buyfag threads and idolm@ster from us, nobody posts vocaloids anymore, or Nijiura maids, or Japanese chat rooms, and I can't remember the last time Hong Meiling posted a doujinshi or we had an effort at translating something.

It gets some of its flair back when there's a Reitaisei or Comiket but not like it used to.

Honestly, I think /q/ itself is to blame. By allowing all the newfags a voice they successfully changed all the boards into normalfag garbage.

>>698565
>Putting /pol/ and /mlp/ together
Der Juden in our midst....

>>698579
So your response is to come crying to /q/.........?

I bet you scream and run away from insects too.

>>698583
No, it's more the face that each board should have it's own culture. They're not similar in any way, which is good.

>>698582
My touhoubro has a point.

as does this guy >>698578

>>698573
Spam like this happened all the time before mods.

Costanza was spammed every fucking day when it peaked. "Yuros eat semen" was spammed every fucking day when it peaked. Offtopic power rankings was spammed every fucking day when it peaked.

If you are pretending that this Doge this is a direct result of general threads you are fucking delusional.
There is no imaginary shitposting quota that needs to be filled and if it isn't filled results in revolutionary backlash. Only 14-year-olds who use anonymity on 4chan to shitpost, which has existed since the dawn of time.

>>698583

You misread, /pol/ack.
He's saying that those two have a lot of board culture, not that they're the same.

Calm down.

>>698583
I met a guy on /mlp/ once who said he browsed /pol/ and he was messican, let that sink in, inhale it mate.

>>698584
What else is there to do? Sit on /sp/ and endure the shit we've had to endure since early 2012? I'm tired of it. It's time moot actually sees how people other than /q/ faggots feel about their boards.

>>698587
Spam didn't occur at this magnitude. This is pure shitposting to spite the moderators. This doge shit is an example of what /sp/ has become. It's just a mix of shitty generals and spam. There is nothing else to /sp/.

>ameriblob /sp/
various generals + gamethreads

>Aus / latenight /sp/
NRL general, afl general, rug general, and insane spam like right now

>Euro /sp/
transfer general, /trb/ various other generals, soccer gamethreads

>>698572
Well consider this. I believe acceptable banter and sports can coexist, there's a lot of space on our pages and I said it way back, a sports thread should usually get attention enough to keep it alive, and this is coming from someone who has used the Textegg General. It's slow, but it lives on. /sp/ is not so fast that you need replies going on at a high pace in order to keep a slow thread alive, not like /v/ or /b/.

>>698520
you dont get it

he doesn't want just oldfags money

he wants much more than that he can see the potential of making this more libtard friendly which is A HUGE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE ON THE INTERNET so if he can pander to that market then he will get the jackpot

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>>698590
Greasy.

Probably voted for Obongo.

>>698596
I wish he would just tell us this, then. The least he could do is tell us what his plans are considering we're the ones who've kept this website alive for years. But I think you're right about his plans for this website.

>>698587
What do you think of my solution? Nobody here believes spam is acceptable, I just think that leaving moderators without specific and clear rules only hurts the userbase. Power rankings can coexist with sports threads as they always have.

>>698596
He would Penn Jillette /pol/ if that was the case.

Granted he has made /lgbtxyz/ an actual fucking board full of disgusting, poorly make-uped trannies.

>>698598

>The least he could do is tell us what his plans are considering we're the ones who've kept this website alive for years.

Really? What exactly have you done?

Prior to passes, there was no way to contribute to the site. The best you could do was not block ads.

More traffic makes the site more troublesome to maintain. moot has even said he would like to see a decrease in traffic, which directly contradicts the notion he's trying to chase after the Reddit audience.

>>698603
>He would Penn Jillette /pol/ if that was the case.

No he wouldn't, /pol/ brings in too much traffic and the previous 2 times he nuked /pol/'s former incarnations it was disasterous for the rest of the site.

Same reason why he can't nuke the hive of hate called /r9k/.

>>698582
>By allowing all the newfags a voice they successfully changed all the boards into normalfag garbage.


THIS THIS IS IT THIS ANON HAS COME TO HEART OF IT

ITS THE FUCKING NEWFAGS THAT DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE TRUE CULTURE OF 4CHAN AND FORCED THEIR NORMALFAG MORALITY ON US.

REMOVE /Q/

>>698605
People actually using this site made it good, it's what gave 4chan a name on the internet. It's why 4chan is a very well known website. Without people using this website in the past, it wouldn't have become anything.

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>>698597
I bet he did, because he is messican, which means he lives in the USA.

>>698582
>Honestly, I think /q/ itself is to blame. By allowing all the newfags a voice they successfully changed all the boards into normalfag garbage.

This is actually fucking true. Around the time of /q/ is when 4chan really started to turn to shit.

>mfw I don't actually mind general threads at all but sometimes start crusades against them because it's a unique way to shitpost
>mfw a whole bunch of people actually believed the stupid crap I'd samefag about generals and they either believe it or ironically repeat it

lel, been shiptoasting on /sp/ since 09, I'll freely admit that I used this place as my personal shitposting pen and pretty much spend all my time here trying to force memes, I don't care I'm anonymous

this drama makes my shitposting dick hard doe, I thought comedy gold was going to be the peak of pissing everyone off but general hating is a fucking goldmine

>>698609
I want to agree with this. There should be some way for boards to voice their general opinions, but I think that without a better suggestion, Moot should do QnA's with his bigger boards and we should stick to meta threads.

>>698605
>no shopping at j-list

YGSIU

>>698616
No, no you didnt.

>No I didn't... But you could imagine what it would be like if I did though, right?

>>698616
Nobody cares about you trying to start shit, if you really mean what you say, you would continue what you were doing instead of providing disinformation and attempts to scare the tin hatters.

>>698603
>>698608
oh no he wont nuke it

he will just pretend it doesn't exist and never mention it to whatever dumb cunt buys the site and then when they discover /pol/ they will literally shit themselves and instantly delete /pol/

moot wont do anything because he doesn't want to get hunted down and killes so he will sell up and wash his hands of 4chan

>muh lots of traffic to /pol/

nope that doesn't mean shit in the over scheme of things compared to all the traffic on 4chan

if /pol/ doesn't turn int SRS feels board its gunna get fucking nuked as soon as moot bails on 4chan

>>698617

There is no guarantee that moot's opinions would change even if he did a Q&A on the board instead of looking here for feedback. He has heard all of the arguments that are being posted here before, and they haven't changed his mind.

>>698619

I should buy a horse mask.

>>698627
Would Moot really sell out that hard? Shit, I will buy one of his goddamn passes.

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>mods in charge of not getting brutally ass-fucked

lel

>>698630

To add to this, some might remember a recent sticky on /tv/ where lots of people accosted moot on the moderation changes, but it didn't phase him at all.

People overrate how much /q/ matters. This board does not dictate site policy at all really.

>>698593
> to spite the moderators

That's the very definition of shitposting, to ruin the experience for someone else. It's just moved from trying to make other posters mad by posting lel troll faces to making the mods mad because the mods won't let shitposters make other posters mad. And it's really always been about a bit of both.

Shitposting. Shitposting never changes.

>>698638
What the heck is it 5 then?

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>>698627
>if /pol/ doesn't turn int SRS feels board its gunna get fucking nuked as soon as moot bails on 4chan

I'd hate to be the dumbass who has to handle the aftermath of /pol/ being nuked.

>mfw they'll probably nuke /r9k/ for it's misogyny and general hatred
>mfw the wave of shit that'll flood the rest of the site if those two boards are destoryed at the same time

>>698632
No, but people seem to like to think he would and that there's some massive conspiracy.
In reality, 4chan is a hobby to him, and one of the few things he's done that he's really proud of. If he didn't sell it when it was costing him thousands of dollars he didn't have, then he isn't going to sell now that by all appearances it actually makes money.

>>698635

Oy vey, it's like another Shoah.

>>698641
Yeah, I never said otherwise. No one wants shitposting. We just want our old board back (back before people even used the term shitposting).

It was literally as simple as sports threads and bro culture threads.

>>698638
>This board does not dictate site policy at all really.

Not with m00t, but it does with janitors and mods who come here to get their dick sucked

>>698630
True, but at the very least we would be more clear about where he wants to take us. Honestly if Moot really does want to take his site in another direction, I'd accept it, since his word is the end all. It makes me think of Toy Story 3 where all of us loyal users have been like Buzz, Woody, Ham, Rex, and Mr. Potato Head to him. If he's ready to move on to bigger and better things, then we won't stop him. I would be happy for all the enjoyment he facilitated and I would move on to a new place. But that's not what it looks like right now.

>>698632
>>698644
>>698646

top lel trying to sell a site that has pretty much what every other normalfag cunt would call the worst degernacy on the internet when doesn't even make any money

do you even into bussiness


its all over his twitter

>discussing synergies with cheezeburger

that site is 15yr old girl lib tard central

pretty much 4chan is a hard sell to anyone in the bussiness world because of its content

moot is trying is hardest to pretend that he isn't trying to reddit 4.0 but thats exactly what he is doing so he can get cunts to advertise on this site

pretty much advertise on 4chan = you condone futa and loli and misogyny and nazi worshiping the list goes on....

thats how your competition will paint it anyways if you advertise on 4chan

moot is slowly but surely changing this board into le liberal tard friendly feels site to pander to that market

>>698650
This. I wish moot would just tell us what he wants. It's fucking gay to do what he's doing now and not say a word to the people who've been here for so long.

>>698649

The mods follow orders from moot, and the janitors follow orders from mods. /q/ is useful to gauge general opinions on certain matters, but it is not what decides them.

>>698650

Well I think he's made it clear that he has no intention of selling off the site, but he has also made it clear, if somewhat reluctantly, that he wants /sp/ to go back to being a place solely for discussing sports, as it was originally intended to be.

>>698659
Well then I can respect what you say. As it stands, we both want /sp/ to be a better board, and right now, to have as many pages missing as /sp/ does indicates a significant problem.

>>698650
>>698659

for fuck sake

if he admits he is trying to change the site bam half his userbase dissapears over night

as if he will fucking do shit like that

you guys seem to think moot is like this super awesome nice guy bro

he isn't he wants be the le happy merchant and he is going to act like it

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>moot not responding

I would do anything for something as simple as "yes, i want this moderation."

moot's still in bloody croatia.

>>698662

moot's in Croatia right now m8, it might be a while before you get a response.

>>698666
>>698667
Fuck, I forgot about that..

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>>698409
SHHH dont let the nazi /q/eers here find that out

>>698668
Should've made this thread later on, then. It'll be dead by the time he's back.

S-sticky, perhaps?

>>698669

/fit/ is next on the chopping block breh, moot's noted that he is dissatisfied with how the board has been going. Expect that to be the next board to see a crackdown once they get /sp/, /tv/, and /mlp/ to settle down.

>>698673
Agreed. At some point this thread needs to be stickied and locked until moot comes back so he can address it and we can revisit the discussion.

>>698678
I really hope a moderator is reading this. It's been a great thread to show exactly how /sp/ is feeling.

Please lock and sticky, mod.

>>698678
what do you think moot is going to tell you other than off-topic bullshit like power rankings and current event bowls aren't sports?

there are three boards with no topic, and 50+ boards for specific topics. not everything needs to go on /sp/ even though it's your home board.

>>698678
Shooting him an email or two about it might help some.
Then again, he probably won't be in the mood to sift through his enormous backlog of emails when he returns...

>>698684
Yeah, I'll make sure to copy paste what I've said in the OP and send it to moot. I'll send him the archive of this thread, too, if it doesn't get stickied.

>>698683
It's more that he recognises that /sp/artans want our old board back and that the new wave of moderation has killed the board.

I don't even get what you guys are so fervent about.

>tripfag circle jerks, arguing, and just overall bullshit
Is this implication here that this phenomena just started with general threads and wasn't always a terrible part of our oh so beloved classic /sp/? Because if so that's fucking hilarious.

>Because everything is in a general now, there is no room for creativity. It's the same shit day-in, day-out. The days of awesome power ranking, friendly discussion, producing hilarious OC, and having a sports-bar styled website that everyone enjoys are gone
Is the implication here that power ranking threads weren't the same shit day-in, day-out? Because if so that's fucking hilarious.

You guys are so fucking mad over nothing. I've been enjoying /sp/ quite well, just as much as I used to before generals. In fact, even more because I actually can report shitposters now.

General threads a pretty cool, you can post the things related to your team or about the sport in general that are good enough to be read but aren't newsworthy enough to garner replies with a thread. I think that's pretty nice. Fans from other teams can interact with each other outside of gamethreads in a way that's goes beyond the ''how did you team do today [reaction image] [greentext] threads allowed.
You don't even have to post in them if you don't like them. Trying to end them is stupid. They are convenient and organized. It's nice to have I see plenty of discussion in them all the time, and if someone is shitposting in them I can just report them.
I enjoy general threads and I'm certaintly not a 'reddit faggot', I've never even been on reddit longer than 5 minutes because I hate the layout.

No one forces you to post in them. I don't understand why you guys keep harping on this. It's all mental. You can post anything sports related outside of general you like, the mods have even said AND ENCOURAGED this themselves.

/sp/ used to be great, and it still is great. Go with the flow, stop being so mad.

>>698683
Well let's find out. /b/ and /s4s/ are terrible boards to go to given all the mindless shocking and / or pornographic content that gets posted. It makes discussion like we want it plain impossible.

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>>698687
>reporting shitposters

>>698687
>Is this implication here that this phenomena just started with general threads and wasn't always a terrible part of our oh so beloved classic /sp/? Because if so that's fucking hilarious.
No, this has always been a problem on /sp/. Generals have just made it worse. Also, see >>698416

Tripfags use generals to attention whore.

>Is the implication here that power ranking threads weren't the same shit day-in, day-out?
Power Rankings led to actual discussion and new content. Generals have done the opposite. They've also hindered sports discussion because when you make a thread to discuss something, you're told "there's already a general". You post it in a general and get 1 reply max. There's no proper discussion.

>No one forces you to post in them
I never said anyone did. They're stopping from starting other threads, though, because they get no participation.

>>698687
I personally do not want the entire old board back, as I have said this WHOLE time, I just want rules for the moderators and janitors to abide by so that we may avoid situations where users are pitted in a disagreement against the mods. Leave nothing to interpretation and you have that. At the end of the day we may still be at odds, but that's why I call upon the law of the land, Moot, to see our problem through.

>>698691
>you're told "there's already a general"

That does not happen.

I'm on /sp/ since before the 2010 wc and I think we need nazi moderation, we were becoming like /v/.
If offtopic posters could keep their posts outside the sports thread it would be ok, but if I've to go through solid7 dumps and leejun, then I will take tight moderation to try to keep things in check for the future.

/sp/ is dead because, being summer, there is nothing to discuss, and generals have become a scapegoat for everything, exactly like reddit.

People act like you are banned for everything, when the truth is that you are banned for off-topic exactly like you should.

>>698693
What this guy said
For more, see >>697868

>>698693
People do say it, though.

>>698696
The moderator saying this doesn't change the fact that people on /sp/ don't post outside of generals anymore. The front page is always entirely generals. The first two pages are entirely generals, and everything after that is just old generals which are autosaging or threads which have gotten to attention.

>>698693
Not all the time, but the rest of the time your thread is overlooked unless the subject is inflammatory in nature or a big shitstorm in the general sports world. Gone are the days I can post about the Yankees minor league system (I tried talking about Chien Ming Wang making a comeback earlier this year and my thread got five replies, literally). I have had the same experience with other threads. We're not lying when we say generals do have a vacuum effect.

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Tripfaggotry should be a bannable offense outside of gamethreads.

>/hoc/ general when Kippers or Sean start posting