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Last weekend we conducted 4chan PMQ/Q&A #3, with 1400 people contributing 4500 posts over 22 hours. I managed to spend the better part of a day answering as many questions as possible—thread here.
Since loading large threads can be a bit of a pain on slower computers, you can also see my replies from the /q/ index (hover over the "Administrator Replies" quotelinks).

Thanks to everyone who asked questions and participated!

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These /sp/ shitposters really are the most autistic pieces of shit ever. Just look at this shit, how fucking autistic can you be?
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Wow. All for "le feels" and "muh culture".

Get a grip, /sp/.
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>>598594 (OP)


I like it. I wish my board was this motivated.
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the /sp/ autists who use terms like /sp/artans and create shit like this when all we really want is one single solitary eurovision thread are why we can't have nice things
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>>598611

Because it's a blatant disregard for the rules.

It will NOT be allowed no matter how hard you faggots cry.
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>>598606

It's the saddest thing I've ever seen on /sp/, and I saw a gif of a puppy eating a kitten.
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That reminds me of the images /b/ would make. "Operation 'gayshithere'"

It usually involved raiding some smaller site, and it always failed.
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I can literally feel the ass pain and hurt feelings radiating from that image.

These /s/hit/p/osters don't seem very motivated though, they were spamming their off topic threads late last night, but when a mod came by and deleted them all no duplicate threads appeared, so I assume they all got bored and went to bed.
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>>598615
>implying /sp/ doesn't find a way

It's the least lazy faggot infested board by far
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>>598612
We've had a thread for that every fucking year before the mod even made some funny sticky's last year for it.
/sp/ usually has better dedicated threads than half the other boards, its what makes /sp/ so fun and the mod is ruining it.
There's only so much sport on at one time and that's even if you watch it and even less now with /asp/
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The sad thing is that the shitposters tactics will probably work. Remember when that mod banned all child porn on /a/ and they threw a shitstorm all weekend and spammed every board with child porn.
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>>598624
Spamming they're own board is finding a way?

Even /b/ hasn't been that dumb.

>>598626
>implying moot hasn't spoken
It's a downhill fight from here.
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>>598594 (OP)
> blatant plans to ban evade, on the grounds that you can ban evade ban evade bans
What faggots
Perhaps we repeat april furs day, but with them.
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>>598612
>Because it's a blatant disregard for the rules.
welcome to the new 4chan ladies and gentlemen

where moot reads this kind of bad trolling and /actually takes it seriously/

>>598622
>These /s/hit/p/osters don't seem very motivated though

We're not. We come to chat about sports, do gamethreads, casually insult each others' nationality/team/bandwagoneering and the once-in-a-blue-moon eventb owl thread

It's not a high traffic forum and it's usually quite constructive (follow a premier league gamethread from time to time - they actually work). That's why harsh moderation is never going to work - it's just going to kill the board, all for the purpose of getting rid of eurovision threads and "TO ENFORCE THE RULES"

i mean, seriously, the only rule /sp/ really needs is the one to keep it SFW and illegal-content free. it's generally pretty good at self moderation: you don't even see anyone immediately posting >de gea on threads any more!
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just email moot guys. Bro culture will survive long past redditfag like


>>598606
>>598612
>>598613
>>598615
>>598622

all are butthurt because the jocks picked on them at school and this is how they think they are getting back.
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>>598632
Moot has spoken on this. "Bro culture" is taboo, it's on the kill-list.

But yeah, you can totally win.
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>>598638
Why the change in attitude though, last year the mod we had was a bro and moot booted some other mod off the board and said /sp/ was hilarious and now all this
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>>598638
We won't win. The board will just die a death. There really aren't enough /sp/ posters, especially not enough autistic enough to FIGHT DA POWA, to do anything about this.

Which is a pity because it's quite a good board.

So we'll just try and engage in rational discussion and hope for the best.

Killing /sp/'s live event threads is killing /sp/ itself - it'll never be a harmonious /r/nfl, /r/football /r/insertsporthere clone. it'll either continue as is or essentially die.

remember it took more than one attempt for /sp/ to even exit trial status - we are not a rowdy band of /a/-esque aspies who will waste days on the internet trying to fight for whatever tantrum we choose to throw that week, we'll just fuck off.
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>>598632
I always kind of thought /sp/ was shit because people who play sports don't spend a lot of time on anime imageboards.
So these off topic threads are just a byproduct of board culture, I suppose.
Or maybe moot should find a way to block posting on mobile.
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>>598641
Moot's opinion has changed in a really major way about 3 times now.

1. reCaptcha becoming permanent.
2. /new/ and /r9k/ being deleted and reinstated
3. /sp/ culture.
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>>598645
>playing sports

i dont think you get /sp/

it's actually really quite good at discussing sports

(certain /hoc/ related dramas aside)
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>>598645

/sp/ is primarily sports fans not players.
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>>598638
The funniest thing about modern 4chan are these new buzzwords people need for people being idiots as opposed to just calling them idiots. People have eaten up the term shitposting, so it's no wonder the moderation want some new key phrases to help the hall monitors effectively pretend-police.

What's worse is there is no "banter," "bro culture," or any of these key things in reality, these are what people use as an idiomatic term to describe either playful team-related insults, or threads about hip-hop, power rankings, etc. which have no home board, because /mu/ is full of white pleb hipsters, and /b/ doesn't know what power rankings are.

Nobody you see here advocating a /sp/ revolution are doing so seriously, and this has all come about because people have popularized the term shitposting to the point where it's an accepted term, even having genres in and of itself. It was no longer off-topic posting, because that sounded too light. The word "shit" is also hilarious to the type of people that came here after /b/ raided habbo.

Moot also said
>trying to moderate /sp/
But yeah, he can totally be a hypocrite now that he's seen how many people buy 4chan passes, and how many of those people with that particular brand of autism want fully on topic boards. It's fine really, the "shitposting" will just migrate elsewhere until every board has or is a containment zone.
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>>598645
you mean except for the anon who was drafted into the NFL this year?
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Moot decides what belongs on the board

What the fuck are YOU going to do about it?

The only thing you can do to get what you want is going to moot's house and hijacking the site.

Complaining will do nothing. He will not change his mind. It will not make shitposting and "BRO CULTURE" not a violation of the rules. Nothing will change shit.

Now just stop fucking posting, It won't contribute anything.

Deal with it.
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>>598641

Maybe after a year of seeing what that brought, endless reposts of shit threads (lel, feels, Facebook, raidfaggotry, etc.) he decided it wasn't worth it and that you guys actually don't deserve the free reign you'd been given.
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>>598660
>Now just stop fucking posting

I think you should read the thread - this crackdown on /sp/, where most members feel like they're running the gauntlet just posting in a gamethread, will accomplish nothing BUT stop us posting. We're not going to throw a riot, the board will just cease. If that's what moot wants then this is his personal feifdom to ruin.
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>>598663

>the board will just cease

Jesus how delusional are you fucks? Without shitposting the sports discussion still manages to fill the board. You're a sad bunch. A sad delusional bunch.
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>>598654

"Bro culture" isn't a term we made up, it came from /sp/ posters.
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>>598661
>lel, feels, Facebook, raidfaggotry, etc.

Are you sure you're talking about /sp/?
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>>598661
>endless reposts of shit threads

So, the general threads, that are still around, then?

Nobody is here arguing for feels threads bro, those have always been mocked on /sp/ even in the heyday of off-topic threads.

>facebook
>raidfaggotry

So you've never browsed /sp/ then? This is something I've literally never seen and I got to /sp/ before the 2008 olympics in Beijing.
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>dis /q/ culture

Why do you even come to 4chan?
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>>598660
I saw you earlier, and I still find it funny that you don't belive that 4chan disscussion dosent go on the 4chan discussion board.
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>>598663
>will accomplish nothing BUT stop us posting.
Good. Maybe /sp/ will finally be about sports then.
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>>598661
>raidfaggotry
I've never seen that on /sp/
There's only so many sport threads you can have and the sports that are on, were always on the front page.
Alot of this is because we usually always have a eurovision and battle-of-the-nations (medieval sports) thread once a year and there being removed even when there getting alot of posts
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>you'll never get to dox all these rulefags
I've never felt so helpless
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>>598674
it is about sports

when sports are on you will see nothing but gamethreads

3pm on a saturday? football
monday night in america? handegg

olympics? MORE THREADS THAN YOU CAN SHAKE A STI-

oh wait no the mod was a fag and covered the board with stickies so no one could actually talk about sports, my mistake
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>>598668
>we

lel, we already know /q/ doesn't make or do anything besides bitch.
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>>598675

>There's only so many sport threads you can have and the sports that are on, were always on the front page.

At its worst, off topic threads existed even when sports were on and had just as many replies if not more. The idea that this it is something people will only do when there's nothing on is just false.

>>598676

Pic related.
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>>598668
I've never implied otherwise. What I'm telling you is it's a meaningless term. A blanket you could use to cover only what you don't want to see while leaving something else that's cold uncovered. It's the same thing as shitposting. Terms injected into the 4chan public that only serve to drive people apart, making infighting more common than people standing up for their ability to express themselves. I'm not sure any of the people who are here care, as far as I can tell the main argument people here have against people asking for moderation change is

>you're a shitpost/bro culture/banter lover if you disagree with what the mods do
or
>copypasted rules saying posting on 4chan is not a right
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>>598676

Are you a fucking child?
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>>598682
Yes but not everyone watches every single sport and like I said most of the complaining is due to the mod being a nazi over thread we have every year and have been popular, the lel threads were fucking annoying though
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>>598687

>Yes but not everyone watches every single sport

Some people on /sp/ don't watch ANY sports, I guess they should just be able to talk about whatever whenever then?
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>>598682
>At its worst, off topic threads existed even when sports were on and had just as many replies if not more

Right now, /sp/'s front page:

6 match thread, ~1000 posts, almost all 2nd or 3rd threads as bump limit hit on originals
1 pre-match thread for one of the biggest sporting events of the year
3 league general discussion threads (mlb, nfl, epl)
2 specific football discussion threads (avb being shit + spurs european qualification)

and the non-sports threads

1 autismputt, 12 posts
1 fifa thread, 100 posts


but please, continue to post this absolute nonsense. as long as your day is fulfilled, your life filled with joy, that is what matters, even if you get that joy from trying to ruin other people's fun by posting utter drivel on /q/
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>>598689
>At its worst
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>>598689

Yeah, and before the mod actually started doing his job there would have been two >tfw threads and a fucking ass thread.

/sp/ is better now than it's ever been
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>>598689
I'm obviously samefagging as fuck here, but honestly, look at that break down and tell me /sp/ isn't the most effective special-interest board on this site.

Why does it even need more moderation? It does what it is supposed to do and it does it well, as it has done for 5 years now. Banning fun and frivolity and long-standing traditions in this adversarial way will accomplish nothing of benefit to anyone.
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>>598688
If they want, long as they keep it to one thread, its never been at a point were off-topic threads are keeping actual sports off the front page
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>>598688
If you want to understand /sp/ come and lurk for a couple months, then post your observations. Every post you have made has been a waste in this thread.
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>>598690
It's "worst" hasn't been seen since 2009-2010 era /sp/. There is absolutely no point in trying to crack down on something that has all but ceased. Moreover, if they can't fully commit and prune down the general threads because after the amount of moderation they've done already people have scurried under their shade like cockroaches, they need to just stop. I'm still seeing /gym/ threads, and I'd take an entire board of that feel when over those.
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I applaud you for your efforts mod! Something had to be done about those normalfags posting their normalshit...
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>>598676
> being this clearly underaged
A ban here would be unethical, yet provoked
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>getting this mad over a small group of posters on /sp/
who's the autist here again?
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>>598691
And they'd stay there for all of 30 seconds

You need to understand how /sp/ works. It isn't like other boards. Its users don't trawl the index looking for new shit. You find the thread for your sport, you post in it, you update it, you follow it until it is full and then you move onto its replacement thread.

That there are the occasional genuinely shit topics shitting up the forum is not a reason to crack down on the forum. It might be a reason to delete those occasionally shit threads, but we all know how much wasted effort that would be [reset router -> continue posting]. We've somehow gone from "damn those 2 feel threads i see on the rare occasion i'm on the front page are annoying" to "WE MUST BAN EVERY USER WHO POSTS ANYTHING NOT ABSOLUTELY AND COMPLETELY RELATED TO THIS LIST OF ACCEPTED PROFESSIONAL SPORTS"

It's... well it's fucking barmy, basically.
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#FREESP

#OUTLAWS
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>>598689

Please learn to read, my post was not in reference to /sp/ of the present.

>>598694

This is blatantly untrue though, you're either ignorant or outright lying.
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>>598703
Fine then, make it really clear you were talking about the past. /sp/, as it stands, does its job well, so why change anything? Sports are freely discussed, they're discussed to a good standard, and the board's user base still finds time to engage in a bit of harmless fun.

Why change anything?
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>>598703
>This is blatantly untrue though, you're either ignorant or outright lying.
No it's true and what this guy said
>>598701
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>>598703
>implying you know anything about /sp/ of the past or present

Why can't you just lurk like a respectable anon before exposing your ignorance?
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>>598705

>Fine then, make it really clear you were talking about the past.

Was "At it's worst" not enough for you?

>/sp/, as it stands, does its job well, so why change anything?

The only reason /sp/ is like it is right now is because of the increased moderation. If that ceased, /sp/ would regress to "/b/ with a side of sports (plus tip)" within days if not hours.
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>>598710
>If that ceased, /sp/ would regress to "/b/ with a side of sports (plus tip)" within days if not hours.

Nope, it's never been like that. More moderation has done nothing but reduce the quality of /sp/ Just because it's "sports related" doesn't mean the quality of the board is better.
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>>598710
>Was "At it's worst" not enough for you?
I think you need to revisit your grammar lessons. "At its worst" does not provide any tense context.

You were replying to a thread very much in the present/conditional tense, talking about sports that "are" on.

If there's some subtlety I've missed, I do apologise - please remember /sp/'s international nature. English is not everyone's first language.

>The only reason /sp/ is like it is right now is because of the increased moderation

Sorry, this is nonsense. The moderation crackdown on /sp/ is barely a couple of days old. I've been used it since 2008 - I am far too old to be using this site really - and it has hardly changed across the scale of those five years.

Yeah there are the occasional "summer" periods (09/10 was particularly shit), but if you genuinely think that banning a couple of dozen posters on spurious grounds and drawing the battlelines for Eurovision 2013 has led to some overnight redemption of the board, you are absolutely off your tree. There's still an eternal /gym/ thread (read: thinly-concealed paedophilia thread), there's still /hoc/ threads (read: thread for canadian tripfags to blog), there's still autismputt and there's still fifa.

Most importantly, there are still literally THOUSANDS of posts about live, ongoing sports right there on the front page, as there has always been. /sp/ hasn't changed, you're just a bad who clearly doesn't use the board.
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>>598716
>there's still /hoc/ threads (read: thread for canadian tripfags to blog),

i'd also like to add in that a lot of trips now shitpost in generals now that mods crackdown on general shitposting threads
just an observation
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>>598714

>Nope, it's never been like that.

Haha, okay, I guess we're just going to deny history now.

>>598716

>I think you need to revisit your grammar lessons. "At its worst" does not provide any tense context.

True, but unless you consider /sp/ in its current form to be the worst its ever been, it should implicitly refer to the past.

>You were replying to a thread very much in the present/conditional tense, talking about sports that "are" on.

The entirety of

>At its worst, off topic threads existed even when sports were on and had just as many replies if not more.

is in the past tense (existed, were, had).

>If there's some subtlety I've missed, I do apologise - please remember /sp/'s international nature. English is not everyone's first language.

Fair enough, that is something I didn't consider.

>The moderation crackdown on /sp/ is barely a couple of days old.

This #freesp thing is a relatively recent phenomena, but the general crackdown on off topic threads has been going on for weeks now, if not months.

>I've been used it since 2008 - I am far too old to be using this site really - and it has hardly changed across the scale of those five years.

This doesn't seem to be the prevailing opinion concerning /sp/'s history.

>if you genuinely think that banning a couple of dozen posters on spurious grounds and drawing the battlelines for Eurovision 2013 has led to some overnight redemption of the board, you are absolutely off your tree.

I don't really view this Eurovision thing as a singular event, it's just part of an existing process of trying to get /sp/ to be about sports and only sports again.
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>>598672

That's what I hate about this board, many people who have no idea of the problems of a particular board feel the need to defend the rules and have no idea how their enforcement will affect the board.

Like I wouldn't post how about how /tv/ is shit or how /mu/ is shit because I haven't used them for that long and don't know what those boards want.
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>>598710
>"/b/ with a side of sports (plus tip)"

It's never been like this even at it's worst. This is also one of oldest strawmen I've seen on this site, probably around 2007 I saw this start cropping up on /v/, and back then compared to now in terms of "this is /b/" is a long stretch. It's abundantly clear when people post this as an argument, they don't spend enough time on the board they are insinuating is "/b/ with X."

I've tried my hardest to post here on /q/ without insinuating that the people here who argue against the norms of boards they don't seem to understand in fact, do not at all post on those boards, but honestly. You have not spent enough time on /sp/, or on 4chan in general, to have any idea what you are talking about.

/sp/ already has one containment board because of the idea that ignoring and hiding a thread isn't enough, on top of the over-moderation (and since that boards inception we've only had more general threads to hide)
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>>598744
>It's never been like this even at it's worst.
Lol.
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>>598748
>2012 was the heyday of off-topic posting on /sp/
>Lol.

I just want you to know you're making this really obvious. There's not even an attempt to hide it anymore. I'm not sure where you came from, or why you seem to think cherrypicking a screencap from a time when there were no major sports events happening is a point, how you figure that Arsenal generals are anything more than consolidated shitposting, or why you, instead of fully hiding a thread decided to only hide the things in the thread (but that last part goes a long way to explain why your kind thinks over-moderation is okay, I'm sure using the 4chan extensions is new for you)

I really just want you to know it's sad, above all else.
>muh /q/ culture
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>>598744
Time to break out the images. There's plenty more where that came from.

Unfortunately the cooldown is a million seconds long though.
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>>598748

>Calls following a fellow /sp/ user on a reality show shitposting

You really have no clue how /sp/ works don't you?
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>>598755
>2012

Take your time I guess, this is almost comical. There were times between 2009-2010 where about 2-3 pages of the board deep were majority off-topic threads.
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>>598755
>>598748

Those images are proof that /sp/ was the worst board on 4chan without these mods.

Now we can see the same chicago sports troll threads, eternal _ threads, and tripfag general everyday. Not to mention the great discussion at 2 am. Fucks yes.
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>>598754
>September 2012
>no major sports events happening
Yeah right.
AS a matter of fact, I'm not the anon you were just arguing, so you should learn to ID.

As for cherrypicking, lol.

>>598763
I don't know what your deal is with >2012, I'm just proving your assertion that
>"/b/ with a side of sports (plus tip)"
>It's never been like this even at it's worst.
is wrong.
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>>598767
You still don't get it. This isn't a math problem. Just because it's sports related, doesn't mean that it is a quality post or thread.
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>>598773

Sports shitposting is at least sports related. Better than off-topic bullshit.
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>>598767
I'm not sure how you're doing that. Your images prove next to nothing. There were no sports on at the time of one of them, the other is from the catalog, and has text taking up a majority of the image, along with a bunch of off-topic pictures that could well have been used to start on-topic threads? You've done nothing to try and prove any of these assertions, you made no points. You essentially cloned shitposting from 2007-era /v/, where people began to get this autistic about threads they personally disliked. That's all you're proving here. That you dislike /sp/. I could tell you all day it's been much worse in the past, that this is well improved since then, and as such mods still acting like it hasn't been is doing next to nothing. You have no idea how /sp/ works.

Please continue to post selective screenshots from modern-era /sp/, but realize that you're posting them in the context of this being a "fixed" /sp/. This is /sp/ after actions taken to calm it down.

You don't seem to realize this, and it makes it much clearer then that you are new.
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>>598716
>The moderation crackdown on /sp/ is barely a couple of days old.
I have to go back on this post because of it's hilarious nature
>a couple of days old

And then you go and call people newfags.

>>598773
>Just because it's sports related, doesn't mean that it is a quality post or thread.
I don't see where this is coming from. You've said that /sp/ has never been "/b/ with sports". I'm proving you wrong. I've never said anything about the quality of sports post or anything.
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>>598767

Most of the threads at the top are sports related, and most of the shitposting threads have very low amount of replies. It goes to show that the majority of posters still ignored the shit and stuck to sports.

Although that high percentage shows a good amount of shitposts, /sp/ still managed to talk about... SPORTS
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>>598782
>You've said that /sp/ has never been "/b/ with sports".

Who needs to learn to ID now, that wasn't even me. This is borderline insane at this point.

One question, do you honestly have screencaps from only 2012? Please tell me this is the case. My sides are already on the edge of our atmosphere.
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>>598773

Oh I do love this excuse.

"All the sports threads are shit anyway, why can't I post my off topic, at least those threads are actually fun."
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>>598782

Wow a saturday on /sp/. Wonder what kind of people would be using /sp/ on a saturday.
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>>598788

Probably the same people who post on any 4chan board regardless of the day.
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>>598778
No, it's not.

>>598782
Right, your primary concern is that posts are on topic. That's your personal autism and doesn't reflect /sp/.
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>>598781
>You've done nothing to try and prove any of these assertions,
Neither have you.
2012 was the absolute nadir of shitposting on /sp/.
Now I'm gonna wait for your evidence.
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>>598799

>No, it's not.

Whoa whoa whoa, look at this motherfucker posting opinion as fact.
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>>598800
>Now I'm gonna wait for your evidence.
On second thought I'm not.
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>>598800
>Neither have you.

So you're basically giving up then?

>this place is pretty much /b/
>no, it isn't, and nothing you are posting is supportive of your point, as the heyday of offtopic posting was nearly 4 years before the images you are posting
>PROVE IT

So let me get this straight, to do this, I would have had to taken a screencap of what was (back then) just normal /sp/, before people like you came in and got extremely upset about the state of /sp/, presumably from other boards who have had the same fun-draining preformed on them?

I'll be honest here, if I knew then that now 4chan's biggest threat was 4chan itself, i'd probably have the same amount of hand selected pictures proving next to no point other than "this place used to be worse." Which by the way is the same as the point I was making, except of course you actually weren't around for the time where it got really bad.

I'm just going to keep replying hoping you have more images from 2012, because you really think that's not saying anything about your lurking habits.
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>>598808

When did you first come to /sp/?

2009 here. Trying to get people to get along is tough. F-fuck the establishment!
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>>598803
Content is not created by having 100% of threads be on topic.

I'll ask again. Why did you come to 4chan and why do you stay?
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>>598808
It's pretty clear who represents /sp/ and who represents /q/ culture in this thread. Trying to convince people of anything that don't post on /sp/ and don't care is idiocy. The only real purpose in continuing discussion is to bump the thread and show /sp/ actually gives a fuck about the degradation of the board.
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>>598820

>It's pretty clear who represents /sp/ and who represents /q/ culture in this thread.

>ONLY PEOPLE WHO AGREE WITH ME ARE TRUE /SP/ARTANS

According to moot, he's gotten just as many compliments as he has complaints about the increased moderation on /sp/.

You're going to have to try a bit harder if you want to convince anyone that these threads represent a majority opinion.
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>>598823

So maybe a COMPROMISE?

I mean no one wants wall to wall offtopic, but a good deal would like to take a peak at Spellingb Owl or a Power Rank or two.

Like a couple of threads for containment. Cause these shitposters never leave, they just sit in actual sports threads and troll.
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>>598826

Exceptions cannot be made because it's impossible for people to agree on what is shitposting and what is culture. It differs for everyone based on their tastes.

Until a method arises that can make such a determination, the only fair method of enforcement is zero tolerance.
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>>598823
>I browse /v/, /a/, /co/, and /vg/ most frequently.

You have nothing to contribute to a discussion on /sp/ moderation. Lurk /sp/ or leave this thread please.
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>>598830
Not him but who the fuck are you quoting?
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>>598828

Extremes don't make anyone happy brosef.

Total shitpost would certainly piss off a good deal of users, and as we see now total mod rule has led to a lot of mistrust in the site.

These autists aren't going to let up anytime soon. When 13 year olds get out for the summer, expect them to "fight" for their right to talk about high school feels.
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>>598832
>ID: D9vBmT6D

From a different thread
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>>598828
everything was just fine before the janitors, aka people like you being given power for no reason
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>>598826
Rule 1. keep worksafe
Rule 2. LOL SO RANDOM XDDD!!! MODERATION ON OCCASION

It's that easy.
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All I know is that the generals and gamethreads are totally making /sp/ a better board now that we can have actua; sports duscussions.

Oh wait, that's rights. All the people in those threads do is circlejerk tripfags, spew memes, ask why people are so mad, lelbron, and generally troll other people's teams.

But hey, at least there no quote unquote "shitposting" going on.

(pic related: what shitposting can bring to /sp/)
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>>598838
It seems the most reasonable option. But moot will never implement it. He prefers to kill the board rather than have it go outside topic.
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>>598830

I'm familiar enough with /sp/ where I feel comfortable adding my two cents. Just because I don't browse it as frequently as other boards doesn't mean I don't browse it at all.

Furthermore, your arguments are not different then those of shitposters on other boards, so it's easy to refute them the same way. Plus I'm often just repeating what has already been said before by moot and the mods.

>>598834

>Extremes don't make anyone happy brosef.

Speak for yourself, there are plenty of people happy with /sp/ as it is now.

>These autists aren't going to let up anytime soon.

I beg to differ, the same crowd was crushed when they protested the same thing on /v/, and they were certainly more numerous than those populating /sp/.

In time they will lose interest if they see no progress being made. That's just the nature of these people.
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>>598838

You're just going to have to accept that those of you who only want mods to delete illegal content and nothing else are never going to get what you want.

Not on /sp/, and not on any other board (that isn't /b/).
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>>598842
>these people

you mean people who have been here longer than 6 months?

people posting in event and power rankings threads are the same people posting in sports threads
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>>598840
He's just been seduced by the idea that more moderation will improve the boards and if that doesn't work the cure is more moderation. It's kind of sad to watch.
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>>598842

Well /v/ didn't get that much better now did it?

/v/ is still the same cynical troll filled place as its always been.

Again when you're talking about /sp/ when you have no idea how different each little sub culture is. /sp/ had a great deal of users who browsed and posted about sports and talked about other shit.

Same reason I don't talk about /a/'s problems or /tv/'s problems.

>plenty of people happy with /sp/

Speak for yourself, there are plenty of people unhappy with /sp/ as it is now.
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>>598848

Then they will go back to posting only in sports threads and nothing will be lost.

But there are plenty of people who are emoing over not being able to post off topic threads, threatening to leave outright unless the mods lighten up. Nothing of value is lost from these people leaving, if they do actually leave.
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>>598854
>go back to

but /sp/ has never been that way
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>>598853

>Well /v/ didn't get that much better now did it?

Actually it did. Now almost every thread is actually about video games again. The community is still comprised of bitter, cynical people, but it's nothing like the trash heap it was in 2011 and years prior.

>Speak for yourself, there are plenty of people unhappy with /sp/ as it is now.

Going by what moot says, there are at least as many people happy with how /sp/ is right now. And there are obviously people who continue to post on the board, even if they can no longer post about feels, porn, or Eurovision.

You have this idea that an overwhelming majority of those who browse /sp/ are dissatisfied with how things are. I'm telling you, that view does not match up with reality.
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>>598823
>According to moot, he's gotten just as many compliments as he has complaints about the increased moderation on /sp/.

I'm not sure what's siller here, the idea that everyone always talks to moot, the idea that a 50/50 split in opinion is GOOD in terms of what message it sends to the moderation, or that you think that moot would say anything but that after he's made a fool of himself by being a giant hypocrite.

I'm amazed at the sheer amount of people I see on /q/ who are just blatantly unqualified to talk about /sp/ or even 4chan in general. I mean honestly can you tell me that people who have been here a long time would believe that every time a change is made on 4chan everyone, or even a significant enough amount of people to matter would contact moot, you're out of it. Completely lost in your own mind.
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Mods please delete this thread

>>>/sp/35417495
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>>598860

Are we going back to pretending moot isn't a grown man who can make his own decisions about the site he owns and has maintained for almost a decade?
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>>598854
>emoing

I'm just going to leave. 4chan isn't for me, 22 is old now.

This is the new target 4chan audience everyone, people who use "gay" and "emo" to describe things. I could sit here and tell them about how much worse /sp/ was after 2008, when the first crackdown on off-topic happened, leading to an overabundance of those type of threads in 2009-10 and it wouldn't matter. Even the people who were on /sp/ in 2010 are old compared to the people now arguing for stricter moderation on /sp/.
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>>598863
why do you keep shitposting?
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>>598863
I'm not sure I implied that at all, just that someone citing moot as the person to weigh in on whether this is working or not is incredibly silly. He can do what he wants, but then going and asking him if what he did (IE: what he wants) is good or bad, what the fuck do you think he's going to say?

The guy has in the past said that /sp/ is cancer, then that /sp/ is to go untouched, now that "bro culture" which was never even a real thing needs to be eradicated, and now, seems to think that allowing the mods free reign to remove only threads they don't like that used to be /sp/ regulars (assorted events and competitions that don't adhere to the new stricter rules about what is a sport)

He has absolutely no idea what he wants on a permanent basis, merely knowing that he likes /sp/ except when it causes him to have to actually do something
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>>598859

I'm not saying a majority of users are dissatisfied because a lot of them have left. I've had a good deal of conversations with users of the past and many don't like /sp/ as is.

I've been on /sp/ since 09 (as I like to show my le epic oldfag status) and as is, it sucks. Maybe >>598865 is right, maybe the direction 4chan is going in now isn't for me. I've had my fun and isn't that the point? I came to 4chan to take part in something different from the rest of the internet. Now it seems that serious on topic discussion has taken place of creativity and enjoyment.

moot has gone many years running a place that doesn't really benefit him. 2 years ago if I saw moot I'd thank him for making this place. Now I'd just tell him to ease up on this moderation. Of course my opinion doesn't matter, this is moot's website after all. It's all his doing. He is creator of our epic meme's!
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>>598839
sorry that the generals aren't giving attention to your shitposting threads
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>>598871
Maybe that would be the most useful thing for moot to say. What is his vision of 4chan?

I thought it was about allowing the freedom and the resulting creativity that an anonymous group of strangers can build and share something together.

It seems like you are right about the change in direction. Unfortunately, if I want on-topic advice and analysis, the last place I would look is a board based on anonymity.
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Is this what you guys really want?

Really?

Be serious here.
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>>598875
They are giving attention to them, though. It's just negative. That's why there is a split in the board. I'm sure in the end it was intentional, so /sp/ can be split into multiple parts for easier containment. Every time one of the people here cites a general as a sports related thread, it's just another chalked up to the "I don't browse /sp/ at all" pile.

Unless of course you mean offseason sport generals, but even then, the only reason those are in general form now is the mods inability to recognize them otherwise. Those only make up a small percentage of general threads, the large majority of which belong on /vg/ because they are just videogame threads.

But please, tell me more about how the mods still allowing /gym/, /fifa/, /hoc/, /arse/, and /NBA13/ threads correlates with their crackdown on off-topic shitposting.
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>>598883
Cherrypicking for less than 1% of the posts on /sp/ right now, I'd still take it over the alternative.
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>>598875
ah, the "attention" argument

your narcissism is ridiculous

>>598883
we want it like it was
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i've been on 4chan AND /sp/ since their creation. /sp/ is basically /b/3.0 and shitposting is what makes /sp/ unique and fun. everyone who complains about shitposting is either a newfag or a gigantic buttpained faggot.

you don't masturbate to the same video every time, do you? you really think seeing yuropoors posting 'eternal arsenal thread', 'autismputt', and amerifats posting game threads will make you want to come to /sp/? seeing same shit will exponentially decrease the /sp/ userbase and deteriorate the board quality to the point where it becomes a lebbit circlejerk sports board.

i really miss the days when i could freely express how an american was fat near me and how i do not put ketchup in my fridge. /sp/ is dying and when it dies, so will the internet and the creativity.

>2013
>trying to moderate /sp/
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>>598883
How often are people going to post screenshots as "proof" of something here?

I just want to know, so over the next week I can take a few of the general threads that are now /sp/ regulars, so I can share with my wonderful /q/ culture friends what shitposting actually looks like. I'm sure I wont be cherrypicking at all, but I'll make sure to get only things that are beneficial to my point, either deleting or not posting those which would undermine it.

That'll show those /sp/ cunts, how dare they try and act like this is ye olde 4chan. We've all evolved past this.
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>>598883

They're doing this because they truly believe victory is attainable.

/sp/ is based around false masculinity and fighting for turf. It's a sports board. Of course these guys think they're going to win.
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>>598867

Are you going to stop me?

>>598871

It could very well be that the direction 4chan is headed isn't for you. That's understandable, and for what it's worth, you seem like a reasonable person, more so than most of the people who complain about stuff like this, and I do sympathize with your sentiments.

But really, as much as people trumpet the "You're here forever" thing, it's okay to just grow apart and leave this site if it gets to the point where it's no longer fun for you. There's nothing wrong with that.
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>>598875

Funny you bring that up. Here let me show how awesome these generals threads are:

Two days ago, I entered the NFL general thread. The headline of the threads indicated there was no news, so I brought up the Minnesota Vikings were unveiling their new stadium as news. Replies: none. All the people in the thread do is reply to tripfags.

Today, I entered the NFL generals thread. Notice people talking about Cutler and so I posted that he sucked with no evidence and I got five Burrs fans to reply.

Funny how that works. Try to have a serious talk and it gets ignored because it's boring. Post Jay Culter sucks to ruse a fanbase and I land five catches within minutes.

But hey, at least the mods are doing their job in making /sp/ a better place.

(pic related: not considered shitposting)
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>>598765
its because its after 10 pm central time
that time is now outlaw time
it wont be that out of control once mods stop with the nazi shit
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Jesus the mod is actually letting these fucks win. Disgusting.
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>>598963
it's late night, the janitor and mod is sleeping

moot should definitely consider getting another janitor that can go on late night
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>>598957

That was sarcasm broseph.
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/sp/ used to be semi-autistic people who tried to be normal through sports.

Now it's controlled by full blown autistics who have never discussed sports outside of the internet.
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>My face when a /sp/ "outlaw" put on a Guy Fawkes mask and a cape, running around his room making flying motions, exclaiming "Freesp! Freesp!" while pretending to shoot laser vision at moderators before tripping over the coffee table and needing to have his boo-boo attended to by his mother
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>>598782
>dat power ranking thread
I miss those.
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SP GOIN HAM!!!
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who #outlaw here
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I don't think the generals exist because of the janitor, I think they exist because people saw the arsenal general and decided to copy it.

I don't think they are bad, at least as a euro.
The EPL general let me discuss transfers and stuff related to the epl, the shitposting doesn't start until late night and I've never seen someone say that they already discussed it in the general.

The vidya generals should go to /vg/.
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Who /outlaws/ here?
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/sp/ is fucking shit now general threads have ruined the board culture.

Game threads are filled with spam and shitposting, any good thread gets ruined by autistic posting big sam pictures or saying fuck off king.
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>>598782
>I have to go back on this post because of it's hilarious nature

This current round of IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF POSTING started at the same time as the one over at /tv/ and the one at /mu/.

Check the date on the /tv/ STOP BEING TERRIBLE POSTERS sticky - it's the middle of last week

so yeah, "a couple of days" is fairly accurate.
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>>598883
>>598782

I love the idea that /q/-dwelling neckbeard autists have sat in front of /sp/ for hours on end, f5'ing away in the darkness of their basements, waiting to find that fleeting moment when there are more than 2-3 non-sports threads on the front page JUST TO SCREENSHOT THAT MOMENT and stroke their own egos

That that moment was 0800 on a saturday and the middle of the night on a fucking tuesday should of course concern no one

see my earlier post
>>598689
for what /sp/ is typically like - obvious HAVEN OF SHITPOSTING
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/sp/, why are you so problematic?

Every day on /q/ there's some new drama centered around /sp/. You guys are like furries that get off on sports equipment.
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bring back eventb owl threads, power rankings and fascination threads
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All I see from mnht4XoP is bloo bloo I have no friends outside of 4chan and /sp/ let's me pretend I'm part of the based alpha bro culture pls don't take sports e-bar ;_; bloo bloo

lmfao why don't you go to a real sports bar and shoot the shit there?
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remove australian shitposter from /sp/


and /int/
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Never forget, mootykins
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>shitposting

When is this word going to go the fuck away? You people throw it around like it's a fact
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>>599726
>there are people that still think moot wasn't refmod
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>>599726
That's fucking funny as shit.
Did moot inadvertently cause this apparent "based bro sports-bar culture" by setting a bad example? Are the recent increases in moderation because he's trying to put the genie back in the bottle?
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>>598594 (OP)
This... I hope they understand that theyre following in the footsteps of the /b/ pony posters... Just think about that for a second...
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>>599784
>Did moot inadvertently cause this apparent "based bro sports-bar culture" by setting a bad example?
No, he didn't.
He just made /sp/ more popular, part the offtopic posters that escaped from /v/ because of it was nazi moderated came on /sp/.
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Mauer is mnht4XoP
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>>598629
>Spamming they're own board is finding a way?
>
>Even /b/ hasn't been that dumb.


What the fuck am I reading? /b/day anyone?
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>summer is coming
>no major sporting events

also, ban all australian posters thanks.
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>>599959
>he still thinks Aussies are the biggest shitposters
the title belongs to americans, seriously

they're the ones who are orchestrating this retarded #freesp and #outlaw crap and that failed rebellion
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if a sports board on a site like 4chan causes you this much effort and consternation, it's seriously time to take a long hard look at your life.
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So that's why my phone's IP is blocked now. Thanks a lot, /sp/.

Also no suprise that the /sp/ 4cc fanbase is involved with this. Forever the shittiest fans.
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Wish I could reset my IP as easily as I can on my phone.
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We will win this. Just watch us.

#freesp
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>>600127
Win what?
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WE ARE LE LEGION /sp/ ;))))))))))))))))
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>>600153
the board back

#outlaw
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>>600127

>we
>us
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For fucks sake stop trying to save the board and just make it so posting on /sp/ is a permaban from all other boards. The cunts are shitting up boards outside of their own and /q/ now.
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/sp/ is better now than ever before
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>>598613
>>598650
>>598666
>>598685
>>598691
>>598778
>>598803
>>598963
>>600099
>>600401
Persistent friend.
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>>598894
>>598863
>>598859
>>598854
>>598847
>>598842
>>598828
>>598823
>>598787
>>598728
>>598710
>>598703
>>598688
>>598682
>>598668
>>598661
>>598622
Another warrior for the cause. That's my boy. Keep up the good fight.
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Most of them come from /mu/.
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>>600433
>>600429
sup /b/ro
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Many of these are coming from the baseball general threads.
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10/10 would read again.
It is incredible how genuinely upset it makes you guys that some people like to act silly on /sp/ late at night.
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/sp/ is pretty decent. Move the gymnastics shit to /asp/ and the board would be top notch.

Quit acting like niggers
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moot to newfags circa 2009

>lurk moar

moot to newfags circa 2013

>cry to the mods
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>>600881
>Move soccer and /Gym/ to /asp/

FTFY
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>>598594 (OP)
sounds like a bunch of bros being bros
and i dont mean /b/tards
they dont no how this shit works
fucking normalfags
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ban everyone in this thread to watch the world burn

>>>/sp/35463485
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>>600991
Takes not even a second to switch the IP, I'll keep doing it, no need to get upset.
Here enjoy a picture ot Yotsuba.
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>>600991
fuck up cunt


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