Moreover, /a/ has become really big. In 2010, it usually would got 3 to 4 threads bumped to the top per refresh. Now, some threads do not even touch page 0. /ma/ could benefit not only manga-readers but also the anime-watchers of /a/ as well by cutting down a fraction of the threads that get muddled in /a/.

I know that in Japan, anime is seen as an entry-level-type media to many otaku for anyone getting into otaku culture. Anime is so popular that high school students and stay-at-home moms even watch it. Manga, on the other hand, is a really nerdy thing to do, and some people get ridiculed for it. This is not like it was back in 2003 or 2004, when there were a lot of manga being adapted into anime constantly. Anime is turning to new audiances, while manga remains much as it always has been. As time goes on, the two medias are becoming more and more seperate.

So in short, /ma/ would allow manga to be discussed more deeply than how manga is being discussed on 4chan, help to increase the amount of people who read manga, and help cut down the amount of threads on /a/.

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No one's responding.

Make threads about the manga you want to discuss on /a/. We've been over this a million times already.

If there isn't a ton of discussion, it's because no one wants to discuss it.

>>563638
This

/a/ discusses only what /a/ wants to discuss
protip:
if you want more discussion in your thread, try a mangadump first

>>563638
But I don't want to make a thread with them. They always come in and ruin my threads with their lack of knowledge and taste. It would be better if they would just go to a different board.

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>>563646
Since when were you under the impression that you had good taste?

>>563646
Yeah, that's about the average level of intelligence and logic that I expect from a person who make threads on /q/.

Glad we're finished here.

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>>563646
Guess what?
Too fucking bad. Go find a forum that suits your tastes. I heard Gaia and MAL have great discussions

>>563646
>>563648
This, you sound like a fag to me.

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>>563648
As I said in the start of the thread, most people only read a particular manga because they watched the anime version. I read a lot of manga, most of which have not been translated, and I just want a place to discuss them with others without being attacked by the usual of /a/. I discuss untranslated doujinshi from time to time on /jp/, but there is no place for other manga.

>>563649
I figured /q/ would be a better place to discuss this than on /a/.

>>563650
I like it here, but thank you anyways.

>>563651
Well, that's just rude.

>>563656
>most of which have not been translated
You just answered your own question. Have you even considered that not everybody can read rune?

>>563656
If you don't want to make a thread with the people on /a/. Who, pray tell, do you believe would be the target demographic of this manga board? Because the people who might want to talk about the manga you are reading are, you guessed it, already on /a/.

My suggestion would be find another site to discuss them on if you don't like the community.

>>563656
How about discussing untranslated stuff on Futaba and 2ch? I don't know what you're expecting from an English speaking imageboard.

>>563656
>As I said in the start of the thread, most people only read a particular manga because they watched the anime version.

Generalization. Lot's of people on /a/ read manga, hell I see threads all the time about manga that have no anime adaptation.

>I read a lot of manga

probably not

>most of which have not been translated
Ken-sama pls

>and I just want a place to discuss them with others without being attacked by the usual of /a/

Go to a forum dedicated to manga then. There are plenty of places that have good discussions despite what 4chan might lead you to believe.

/a/ is a pretty general board. If you want to have really in-depth discussions or discussions about really niche or obscure things, /a/ isn't usually the right place for that. Making another board on 4chan wouldn't the right place for that either.

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>>563659
There are people on 4chan who can read Japanese. I see kanji threads on /a/ and anki threads on /jp/ all the time. This board would not just be for untranslated manga, though. It's for everyone discuss anything manga-related. It may even help get more people to translate manga for others to read and discuss.

>>563660
As I stated, the people who are doing the meddling are the ones who do not actually read any manga. /ma/ is a board that is met exclude them.

>>563661
I can't post on futaba, and 2ch is too hectic.

>>563665
But we've seen so many other boards get created recently. /vg/, /diy/, /out/, /s4s/, they're all board specific to a certain topic to solve an issue just like this one. Why not make a board to separate manga and anime?

>>563672
There isn't an issue though. Manga threads aren't being shitposted into oblivion or drowned about by all the anime threads, there just isn't very many of them to begin with. There is no point in having a new board if it's only going to have 4 or 5 threads made on it a day.

Manga just doesn't work the same way in terms of discussion.

>>563672
>As I stated, the people who are doing the meddling are the ones who do not actually read any manga. /ma/ is a board that is met exclude them.
You are retarded. Your board won't keep anyone out. They don't do that. You will get the same type of conversation as you do on /a/. In fact you used a logical fallacy to make that "argument".
>Your board will have the same userbase.
>But the people who are the problem in my manga threads don't actually read manga.
You can't prove that, and you are retarded for even bringing it up.

There is no issue here. Your board will be Bleach/Naruto/One Piece threads and that's about it. Not much else is released at a fast enough rate. All of this discussion can already happen on /a/. The board is useless and redundant and only further serves to fragment the already small moderation staff. It's a stupid idea at every level.

>>563678
When I say "Not much else is released at a fast enough rate" I should qualify it and add that not much else has the same type of large fanbase that is released at a fast enough rate, despite them being weekly publications.

>>563679
This.

Even weekly released manga often doesn't have enough content to warrant a discussion thread every week, sometimes not much will happen for a month or longer that is worth having a thread over.

Not to mention that because of the sheer amount of material out there once you get past the big/popular manga you have a VERY fragmented user base that read very different things that suit their individual tastes. There wouldn't be enough fans of anything in particular to have good discussions.

This is why you go seek out a group somewhere that already reads what you read and talk with them about it instead of trying to force 4chan to like what you like.

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>>563673
It would be a lot slower than /a/, but it definitely wouldn't be 4 to 5 threads per day. There isn't anything wrong with a board that is a little slow. I find it hard to be on a board that gets 4 to 5 threads made per second.

Manga can be discussed like other medias, it's just overwhelmed by all of the other threads on /a/. If /ma/ existed, all of the manga-related threads would be able to condense and create more discussion.

>>563678
The board would be able to exclude outsiders out the same way the /jp/ does it. They would just make them fell worthless and send them to /a/. In fact, there are people from /jp/ as well who feel oppressed by /a/'s current state. They read a lot of manga as well, and they would be happy to partake in this new board.

And you must not know a lot about manga if you think all weekly publications are Bleach, Naruto, or One Piece.

>>563680
There are plenty of manga to discuss. Just because you don't know any doesn't mean they don't exist. Manga blends and has genres too just like any other media. People would be able to discuss plenty of manga that suits their tastes.

>>563682
I see you didn't read my second post. You would have an incredibly fragmented userbase and your threads would die all the same. It would basically be /sp/: Manga version with a few manga threads scattered between a bunch of off-topic garbage because the release rate just is not fast enough to sustain a board.

/jp/ doesn't keep anyone out. At all. You know what keeps people out? A lack of interest in the topics associated with the board. That's it. Very few people give a shit about /jp/ or what goes on there. All the rest is just the standard hipster-esque egotism of a minority.

Probably because manga sucks as much dick as one direction.

>>563682
So much bullshit in this post.

Manga is not overwhelmed by anything, people just aren't talking about it. There isn't a legion of people waiting to talk about manga but afraid to do it on /a/, people just aren't talking about it as much as you would like.

>exclude outsiders
good luck with that.

>implying people with a different opinion don't read manga

get over yourself

>implying I don't know that manga has genres

Really anon, you aren't special, we all read manga and know what it is.

>Plenty of manga to discuss

Read >>563680 over and over until you understand it.

There aren't enough fans of anything in particular to have big discussion threads, there are times more manga publicated weekly than anime released on TV. There aren't that many people on 4chan.

Just go to a forum man, get over it.

Anime are silly cartoons you're all fags.

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>>563672
>2ch is too hectic.
Post on something other than /vip/.

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>>563684
It wouldn't be fragmented. It will start out small and grow. There are thousands of ongoing manga that could be discussed, but most of them don't. If /ma/ existed, people could be able to recommend manga to other people to increase discussion. There is also plenty of things people can discuss during the time between manga. It just gets muddled with everything else on /a/.

>>563686
There are plenty of people who be able to start this board, and once it starts it will just keep growing. If the board existed, I could show you that it would work. A board like this would get people to discuss more and more on the specific topic, and that discussion will get more people to discuss the topic with them, driving up the boards popularity. It won't just fade away between serializations. There is too much manga for people to just run out of things to talk about. You might not participate in the board, but that does not mean that others will not.

>>563701
It would be fragmented, because guess what? The only manga with a large enough fanbase to sustain discussions are the Big 3. The rest would be fragmented groups. The Big 3 would flood the board all week.

>There is also plenty of things people can discuss during the time between manga
Yes, a ton of off-topic shitposting. Much like what /sp/ does. Any on-topic discussion can already happen on /a/. There is absolutely no reason for this board.

Now to use this thread for something important:

/a/ could use some moderation right about now
>>>/a/84012499
>>>/a/84012303
>>>/a/84010885
>>>/a/84011864
>>>/a/84013405
>>>/a/84013524

Plus many more. Do your part and report these.

>>563706
i'm blaming the shithead who wanted to make /a/ cater to his bullshit.

>Implying moot would add anything that doesn't appeal to normals

>>563708
I'm going to blame poor moderation and the board itself. It's all obviously off-topic, the amount of non-saged replies to any of these threads is sickening to begin with.

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>>563703
There is already manga being discussed outside of the Big 3, even outside of Shounen Jump, already on /a/. It will be easier for fans of other manga to discuss their manga alongside Jump threads than alongside Jump threads and every anime thread.

And yes there is plenty to discuss. And even if they run out of things to talk about a particular chapter of a multitude of manga, they can discuss things like manga authors, manga schools, the process of making manga, rumors on manga, particular magazines, new and upcoming manga, etc. There is plenty to discuss.

>>563712
>There is already manga being discussed outside of the Big 3, even outside of Shounen Jump, already on /a/.
Then your board isn't needed. Thanks for admitting it. Fucking retard.

>>563714
Wow, how negative. Is this how you discuss things in school?

>>563714
Also, I say that there are manga being discussed outside of the Big 3, but they are overwhelmed by the other threads on /a/. I think that is what you are confusing.

>>563718
The readership for those manga in the West is not high, and the readers are very fragmented. Your board will only further to show this while those threads 404 and you are left with 10 pages of Naruto/Bleach/One Piece/Medaka Box/etc and off-topic threads.

People don't want to discuss it or they don't come out consistently or are being read by a large enough group all at once. That is the fundamental problem and one of the reasons why airing series get so much discussion.

They aren't being overwhelmed. They do not have the readership to maintain discussion. The threads would die on the new board the same as they do on /a/.

Any discussion that the new board could have, could also happen on /a/. Your board is pointless and only serves to spread out moderation and create another /sp/ scenario. It is a terrible idea.

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>>563721
What does /a/ do between anime seasons? Do they just stop taking about the anime that they watched and start mindlessly shitposting? There are anime on /a/ that gets discussion even years after it was aired. Manga is even better at doing this because manga serializations can last for several years, where most anime only gets 1 or 2 seasons. And even with those 1 or 2 seasons, they already get plenty of discussion on /a/, in fact they are getting too much discussion. If you want manga to be more popular, you just have to separate it from the rest of the anime discussion. The amount of people who read manga will increase as they get more noticed by the people who will browse /ma/, thus increasing the amount of discussion. You are simply assuming that because their isn't a billion threads about, people just don't want to talk about it. But it is because of the notion that "manga isn't popular in the West" and the amount of anime that gets discussed on /a/ that's driving down the discussion of manga. People don't want to discuss something they know isn't going to hinder any response at all. But those people would be able to get the response they are looking for in /ma/ because there would be nothing else to discuss.

Imagine that quiet kid during recess. There are so many children all around him, he may not even know that there are other quiet kids like him among the crowd. But if you isolate all of the quiet kids and get them together, they'll be able to get out of their shells and talk about what they want to talk amongst the other quiet kids.

>>563730
There is nothing between anime seasons aside from Christmas. A show ends and the next week a new one starts.

>Manga & Japanese Comics
Is there a difference between those?

>>563730
>What does /a/ do between anime seasons? Do they just stop taking about the anime that they watched and start mindlessly shitposting?
Have you been on /a/ between seasons? Shitposting skyrockets. There is a flood of off-topic, just like /sp/ and every other board when content is slow.

>There are anime on /a/ that gets discussion even years after it was aired.
That is not enough to fill up a catalog, nor is it enough to warrant a new board, especially a redundant one. What is keeping you from having that discussion on /a/ if manga is "better at it"?

>If you want manga to be more popular, you just have to separate it from the rest of the anime discussion.
Baseless. Moving it away from where related discussion is already happening will not make it more popular.

>The amount of people who read manga will increase as they get more noticed by the people who will browse /ma/, thus increasing the amount of discussion.
Baseless. They would already get noticed by the people who browse /a/.

>But it is because of the notion that "manga isn't popular in the West" and the amount of anime that gets discussed on /a/ that's driving down the discussion of manga. People don't want to discuss something they know isn't going to hinder any response at all.
People discuss what they want to discuss.

>But those people would be able to get the response they are looking for in /ma/ because there would be nothing else to discuss.
There is nothing prohibiting them from discussing it on /a/. It would get the same audience.

This post >>563646 ended the thread. You want a community that does not exist.

>>563734
We occasionally get weeks where almost nothing is airing, and shitposting skyrockets. Usually the Winter and Spring Season have these gaps. Golden Week is also bad sometimes.

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>>563734
Doujins and stuff? I don't know, it doesn't matter, none of this matters.

OP is a faggot autist who can't deal with the /a/ community but is too retarded to go find another one.

>>563739
>doujins
Makes his thread even more laughable honestly. If there is one thing /a/ is MORE than willing to discuss it's that.

Granted non-H is rarely their interest in the doujin market but I've seen it get discussed (Raildex doujins come to mind as far as non-H stuff)

>>563736
And if shitposting skyrockets in /a/, what would make it any worse on /ma/? If every board experiences it, what makes that a valid excuse not to have a manga discussion board?

And the notion isn't baseless. Did you not read my analogy? It's the same issue. The people who would browse /ma/ will be the people who want out of /a/ to discuss manga alone. /ma/ would draw all of the people who have been wanting a manga board for years, many of which have scattered and left to other boards.

You are just assuming the negative because you are a part of the majority on /a/. What about the people who like manga but don't like anime? Are they just doomed to wander the site searching for something that they can discuss?

>>563748
It would be a constant flow of a surge of shitposting, much like /sp/. A moderation nightmare further straining an already strained staff. You can already have the discussion on another board.

>The people who would browse /ma/ will be the people who want out of /a/ to discuss manga alone.
No it won't. It will be the same people that are on /a/ now. You are just making a second board for something that /a/ can already do. You analogy is moronic.
>/ma/ would draw all of the people who have been wanting a manga board for years, many of which have scattered and left to other boards.
There aren't that many. Notice how everyone aside you thinks this is retarded? Because a manga board is a fucking stupid idea and is entirely pointless.

>You are just assuming the negative because you are a part of the majority on /a/.
You are just assuming the positives because it's your dumbass idea.

>What about the people who like manga but don't like anime?
They can use /a/.

>Are they just doomed to wander the site searching for something that they can discuss?
They can make threads, or they can go somewhere else.

You are an idiot.

>>563750
It can be self-moderated like it was in the good old days. Not everything has to be solved with more mods.

>Notice how everyone aside you thinks this is retarded?
I figured I would get a negative response since I am posting on /q/.

>You analogy is moronic.
>Because a manga board is a fucking stupid idea and is entirely pointless.
>You are an idiot.
You sure got me good with these sick burns, dude. I don't think I will ever be able to recover form such a well-thought-out and intelligent argument.

>>563574 (OP)
I support this whole heartedly. I only read manga and barely watch any anime.

>>563754
>I figured I would get a negative response since I am posting on /q/.
Perhaps that's because it is a dumb idea. What am I saying? It is a dumb idea in the most absolute sense.

I gave you all the arguments against the board you could ever need. I only insulted you afterwards.

>>563756
Then you should read the thread as it explains why you are an idiot.

>>563757
You didn't give me a real argument. I just said the opposite of what I said than called me an idiot.

Don't you have anything better to do than call people idiots? This is the kind of thing that peeves me about the anime-watchers on /a/. Most of their "discussions" just turns into people insulting each other and professing their waifus. This is the kind of thing that's driving all of the manga-readers away. What is even the point in discussing anything with people who act like grade-schoolers?

>>563686
Who are you quoting? Manga is overrun by anime but you probably don't notice since you're an anime only casual. Fuck off and stop defending your shitty seasonal anime board so viciously. It wouldn't hurt you at all to have a place for people to discuss manga that isn't insanely popular.

>>563762
"I said" should be "You said."
It's getting late.

>>563762
>thinking your new magical board would be any different

This is 4chan faggot, what did you think?

>>563763
There are places like that, not on 4chan. Go there.

>>563762
See Every Post by me

I gave you the reasons for why everything you said was false. You've never given any reason to actually have your board, or what it would offer that /a/ doesn't already. You know why you haven't? Because it doesn't offer anything that /a/ doesn't. It would just be another strain on moderation. Splitting up boards does not make things better. moot has said before he won't entertain the idea of splitting up /a/ further because /jp/ was such a catastrophic failure.

If you weren't being an idiot, I wouldn't be here calling you one. Don't you have anything better to do than throw out stupid ass ideas that will make two boards worse?

>>563767
There can be places like that on 4chan, too. The community here tends to be hostile at first, but gets better once the hostility wears down.

>>563768
And I have given you my argument as well. You're the one who's just throwing names back.

/jp/ has had more serious discussions than /a/ ever had. That's why I want to discuss manga outside of /a/ in the first place, because /a/ is that shitty.

>>563770
>And I have given you my argument as well.
I only insulted you after I debunked your "arguments". Most of which were categorically false.

>/jp/ has had more serious discussions than /a/ ever had.
I laughed

If you have such a problem with the 4chan community for manga. Go somewhere else, because that is the same community you will get on the new board. This site just isn't for you.

>>563757
It doesn't explain why I"m an idiot /a/-kun. It just explains your muh /a/ culture get out xD. I feel sure I have been on /a/ longer than you have and it's a simple fact that manga discussion is overwhelmed by anime discussion. Why do you care if people who read manga have their own board? You obviously don't read any since you didn't know about any thing other than the big 3 so why do you give a shit?

>>563771
/jp/ does actually have more serious discussions than /a/. You would know that if you had ever been there for more than 5 minutes. My guess is you found /a/ last summer and bought into the whole epic /a/ culture boku no pico hivemind bullshit and are just spouting it here. Please lurk more instead of spouting your little slogans and catchphrases /a/-kun.

>>563772
Yes, appeal to your "oldfagdom".

It does explain why you are an idiot. You didn't read the damn thread because there was a reason I took the time to qualify my statements. >>563678 >>563679

Beyond that you didn't read the thread because every argument for a manga board has been shot down. The board is entirely redundant. It will do nothing that /a/ already does not. There is nothing stopping you from having the discussions on /a/. Nothing at all.

>muh /a/ culture get out xD
The fact that you post like this proves your quality as a poster.

>>563771
I have been here for years. I know what a good discussion looks like. The most /a/ has ever cobbled up is them going back and forth about their waifus. But there is a community underneath that exterior that will appreciate this new board.

>>563772
>Anyone who doesn't want a separate manga board doesn't read as much manga as me, the expert of manga.

Please you sound like a typical new fag trying to fit in and let everyone know how much shit you've read and watched. Nobody gives a shit and your idea is shit.

>>563776
The fact that you act like such a pretentious elitist is proof enough that manga should be separated from the anime board.

>>563776
I read the thread. And I'm mocking you. Your way of thinking is extremely childish and it's clear you just buy in to the /a/ mentality without thinking for yourself. Please tell how it would hurt /a/ to let people have discussion about manga on another board? Just because you disagree with something doesn't mean you're automatically right either.

>>563778
Who are you quoting? Can you make a coherent argument rather than just calling names? Typical /a/ poster.

>>563777
That community is already on /a/ and already discusses things. Splitting it to a new board won't change the quality of posters in general.

Learn to use the catalog and post in good threads.

>a community that will appreciate this new board

faggot pls, there really isn't. Your new board will be a shit posting extravaganza or be limited to manga dumps like /c/ is limited to image dumps. That's it.

>>563780
The irony of this is too much. You cannot post >>563777 and then call others pretentious.

>>563781
You aren't mocking anyone. It's you trying to hide a lack of an argument.

Please tell me why a manga board is needed? What would it do that /a/ doesn't/can't? You are the problem here. You can have your threads on /a/. There is no reason for a new board.

>>563781
>who are you quoting
le epic trole bro

>>563785
We should have it because you and the rest of /a/ are annoying. We can have our board and you can have yours. Do you discuss manga? Will you miss us when we're gone?

>>563784
This is just baseless assumptions. I know how to use the catalog and I'm sure he does too. You are just trying to discredit anyone who doesn't agree with you, a typical /a/ tactic.

>>563785
I am mocking you, regardless of what you say. Read the OP if you still don't think a manga board is needed. The only manga you can really discuss on /a/ are things like Berserk and major Jump series. Some people like to read manga that isn't hugely popular and actually like it more than anime. Why are you so against these people being given their own board? Anime only secondaries are annoying and childish as you have shown in this thread.

>>563787
>We should have it because you and the rest of /a/ are annoying
Not a reason.

>>563787
>Do you discuss manga?
I do. Quite frequently in fact.

>Will you miss us when we're gone?
Not in the least, but that still isn't a reason for a new board.

You've failed to come up with a decent reason. I am not surprised.

>>563785
I suppose they could make more quality posts/raids on /a/ with stuff like,"the manga is better"

>>563791
>Not a reason
It is.

>I do. Quite frequently in fact.
Then it will just be like it is now only more organized.

>>563791
How few series are you reading that you are satisfied by /a/'s level of discussion? What series are you reading? I'd really like to know.

>>563792
You are just projecting your childishness onto other people. Typical /a/ poster.

>>563787
That's not how things work around here. You don't get a new board because you don't like the community on /a/.

If you don't like /a/ stay the fuck off of /a/ then.

You are naive and delusional if you think the community would be any different/better on your new board.

The people who post on /a/ are the same people who read manga and would post on your board. Reading manga isn't some secret club dude.

>>563796
>If you don't like /a/ stay the fuck off of /a/ then.
That is what I am trying to do. I want to talk about manga away from you.

>>563796
epic /a/ culture tomod/a/chi : )

I bet you don't even know how to read Japanese and have to wait for subs too. Go play with the other secondaries and let the big boys have their board.

>>563795
>still failing to realize that a manga board wouldn't be any different from /a/ in terms of who is posting on it.

>>563799
Who are you greening? If you have trouble writing complete sentences practice on your own until you're ready. Onegai!

>>563799
>still being this pretentious
Also, lovely use of meme arrows.

>>563798
>>563797
Ah, you got me, I don't read moon so my argument is invalid. Well, jokes on you faggots because you aren't getting shit. Have fun discussing manga on /a/ from now until eternity.

>>563792
So an otaku related shitposting board? We already have that. >>>/jp/

>>563794
It's not a reason. It is not justification for a board at all.

>Then it will just be like it is now only more organized.
It wouldn't be anymore organized. It would still be chaotic. Want more organized? Go to a forum.

>>563795
Do you seriously expect me to list every manga I read? The last manga I discussed on /a/ was Nana to Kaoru. I am entirely satisfied with the level of manga discussion on /a/. If I want to discuss one, I make a thread. If it works, cool. If it doesn't, it doesn't.

>>563797
Go to MAL.

>>563800
>>563801
le epic xD

>>563802
What kind of shameful newfag doesn't even know Japanese? Go bicker about supgroups with the other casuals.

>>563803
Yes, I'd like to know which manga you are reading because I doubt it's very many at all.

>>563804
Why are you abusing the quotation function /a/-kun?

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>>563802
My dreams are ruined!

>>563803
>Go to a forum.
Oh, is this not one?

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>>563805
>>563806
This kind of QUALITY posting sure is well above and beyond the shitposting of /a/, maybe you guys should get your own board!

>>563806
Perhaps you would prefer the term "Traditional Forum", such as MAL/ANN/Animesuki/etc's forums. Those have the organization you are looking for.

>>563809
Well, I guess we are in agreement.

>>563809
Nice dodging the question /a/-kun. Why don't you know Japanese if you like anime and manga so much? How new do you have to be to have not even started learning? This is why /jp/ hates /a/. It's a bunch of meme spouting, greentexting newfags.

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>>563810
Those are what I don't like about forums. Heavy moderation and communities who can't touch anything taboo. I would much rather be able to discuss it here where the community is more energetic and revolving less on avator circlejerking.

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>>563813
Did you run out of reasons for needing a manga board already? So sad.

>>563816
Epic reaction image dude. Why are you still dodging the question?

>>563816
Epic anime reaction, /a/ro!

>>563815
Then communicating with humans is just not for you. That still isn't justification for a new board. Not that you have given anything even resembling one so far, but continue your shitposting with 7mL9aUZz, I'm sure once moot or a Mod sees that they will take your suggestions into heavy consideration.

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Hey, /a/migos, can you read this? You can't, huh?

>>563821
>mfw worst girl wins teh evanjellyon
>you're waifu a shit xD
>muh epic /a/ kulture

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>>563818
>>563819
Aww, you guys must be friends. That's cute.
Do you faggots really need another board to circle jerk about 2hu?

>>563820
Think again! I have already put out my points, and yet you only dismiss them with flawed logical and blatant name-calling. I am still waiting for the rebuttal form you /a/ll.

>>563823
Not everyone likes your epic /a/ mentality. You can't even respond to an argument in an intelligent way or read Japanese. You haven't even graduated /a/ yet so just be quiet and let the big boys talk. Your board is as bad as /b/ and /v/.

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Sage for worst girl :)
Why is she so lewd?
Being meguka is suffering
epic /a/ memes xD

>>563824
Yes, your great points like >>563646 >>563787

I'm sure moot will make you your own hug box. The day will come. Just you wait!

>>563825
Well, I guess that's too bad for you then isn't it home slice.

>>563827
Epic cherry picking /a/ro! Sage for worst girl.

>>563829
That's not an argument.

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>>563830
Friend of OP, you realize you aren't helping your friend's argument at all here right>

>>563831
You won't get a new board though, so it doesn't matter.

>>563832
Why are you just dodging the question? Why don't you know Japanese if you aren't new? Seriously, please tell me.

>>563827
I'm sure you will have a fun time discussing chinese cartoons with your shitty community when /ma/ launches and all of the good posters leave /a/ and /a/ becomes a slimy waste of unfunny jokes and waifu discussions. Be sure to send us a postcard from time to time.

>>563836
>when /ma/ launches
bwahaha

>OP and his friend run out of arguments
>resorts to ironic shitposting
sounds like the both of you would enjoy /v/

So wait, some /jp/sies want another board to circlejerk on? And here I thought OP actually wanted a manga board. Haven't you done enough damage to /prog/?

>>563840
Standard quality of /jp/ posters. Are you really surprised?

>>563841
Thanks for proving your own stupidity for me, so I don't have to
I rest my case

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/ma/ will become the greatest board that 4chan has ever seen. The antagonistic individuals of this thread are just the weeds trying to sap the growth of this mighty tree. /ma/ is simply a seed now waiting to grow into a mighty tree, but to do allow that, we must rid this place of the pesticides which hinder our growth. We must rise against such villainy and unite. Only together shall we triumph over them and obtain victory.

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>mfw this kid and his friends are so new they can't read japanese
>acting like they are an authority on any thing

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>>563841
Your epic trole game needs a bit of work.

>>563850
akari is love :) epic /a/ meme and reaction image tomod/a/chi

oh sorry you don't know what that means

>>563851
Please stop. I thought you might stop if I just left you alone, but you're only making everything worse.

>>563852
now you know what quality posters /ma/ board will invite

actually moot, please make the /ma/ board, we need a shitposter quarantine board

>>563854
>>>/b/
>>>/s4s/
>>>/jp/
>>>/v/
>>>/sp/
>>>/mu/
>>>/lgbt/
>>>/r9k/
>>>/pol/
>>>/x/

Some of those are just a coincidence, but that's how many we have. It's still not enough.

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>>563857
Maybe the problem isn't the boards but anime itself. Anime is what is bringing in all of these shitposters. If anime was it's own seperate board, it would finally end all of those years of shitposting.

>>563860
No, considering you and that gentleman were both shitposting up a storm I don't think anime is related. I think it's just that there are a lot of shitposters.

>>563861
And that about sums it up.

>>563861
Everyone on /jp/ was once on /a/ retard.

>>563868
But not everyone on /a/ is a shitposter. Anime is unrelated.

Just like /jp/ is unrelated to the two of you shitposting, which seems to be all either of you are capable of.

>>563871
I would call what most of the /a/ posters are doing shitposting. Spouting memes and greentexting is shitposting as far as I'm concerned.

Time for my 2 hour nap.
You haven't seen the last from me.

>>563882
Least self-aware statement of the millennium. We're only at the beginning of the 13th year of it and you have set a standard that is just mindblowing.

>>563884
This isn't a rebuttal, it's just "no u." Typical /a/ poster. Go work on your Japanese. Onegai!

>>563891
It's more a reflection of fact. Remember /q/ has IDs.

>>563851
>>563846
>>563841
>>563830
>>563826
>>563822
>>563818

>>563894
It's called satire /a/-kun. People post like that on your beloved board 24/7 and I'm mocking them.

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>>563896
So you're pretending to be retarded? Being ironic?

>>563575
>I know that in Japan, anime is seen as an entry-level-type media to many otaku for anyone getting into otaku culture. Anime is so popular that high school students and stay-at-home moms even watch it. Manga, on the other hand, is a really nerdy thing to do, and some people get ridiculed for it.
Am I being trolled?

>>563900
It's more just two people being intentionally retarded. I can't really call it trolling.

You could always use the textboard if you really want a seperate board.
But i think
>>563638
>>563641

Are pretty resonable. Especially the mangadump thing.

>>563686

I'd like to discuss manga but it's a waste on /a/, the current userbase is retarded.

Look at Yamato discussion, that's been ruined by 'HURR WHO'S DA BEST GURL I LIKE RED XD YELLOW HAS THE BEST FEETS'

It's like being in /b/ or something

2 things I'd like to address.

1) moot has said in the past that he "doesn't want a thousand permutations of /a/ to get rid of the flavor of the month complaining" and "/a/ is a broad board, you guys need to learn to deal with it", to paraphrase slightly. I can't find the screencap or the post in the archive.

2) I'd like to point out that at the time of this post, there are about 20 different manga or doujin threads up on /a/ right now, and each had a healthy number of replies.

Splitting anime from manga would be like splitting /v/ half a dozen more times to accommodate PC and all other consoles to their own boards. It's not needed, a bad idea at the foundation, and the overwhelming voice of the community has stated that it's fine as it is.

Trust us, we've had this conversation many times now under the guise of different board names such as /ar/, /manga/, /ma/ and probably a few I'm forgetting.

If you're referring to "best girl/worst girl" discussion, well, that's just how /a/ is, especially with SoL shows. Quite often the plot isn't even worth talking about, so the followers default to discussing the character and their relationship ties, but will respond to interjection regarding something else. It's hardly even a problem worth mentioning.

>>564112
>the overwhelming voice of the community has stated that it's fine as it is.

Really? Because it seems to me I see threads like this all the time on /q/. We had loads of them over the past week all in one go, people are unsatisfied and while I'm not saying a split is necessary, clearly something needs to be done. The shitposting, offtopic and NSFW on /a/ is just getting way out of hand, it's turning the place into some kind of /b/ hybrid for anime.

>>564114
Yes, there have been many compl/a/int threads here over the past week, and I've read through a good number of them. Any regarding an /ar/ or /ma/ split are defended until the bump limit and beyond, and half of the rest are using /q/ as a second report button because of idle moderation, which would stem the nsfw and OT/shitposting dramatically if mods were active all the time, but in the same aspect, the shitposting can clue you into what other boards the posters frequent, which they bring that posting mentality back and get yelled at for it. That's one reason why you see so many people redirecting people to /v/ or /b/, though a lot of the time it isn't warranted, it still happens.

I'd love to see moderation step up on /a/, but like the rest of the boards on the site, it's not a special snowflake that gets extra attention just because. I'm not certain on the moderation and janitorial numbers, but they both seem to be inactive during the night in the US when the shitposting is most abundant., so it would be logical to infer that their numbers aren't all that massive. It would be nice to have some night time janitors around, but until applications go open again, who knows when we would see anything happen.

As much as I don't like saying so, more janitor/mod intervention would clean up /a/ far better than a board split would. Offtopic/shitposting is nowhere on the level of /b/, but a decent amount of it does push discussion under the pile of threads.

>>564112
>moot has said in the past that he "doesn't want a thousand permutations of /a/ to get rid of the flavor of the month complaining" and "/a/ is a broad board, you guys need to learn to deal with it"

So why does /v/ get nine spin-off boards? Because it happens to be huge?

>>564139
In /v/'s case, many of them were needed.

/vp/ was needed because Pokemon is a gigantic franchise, encompassing anime, merchandise, video games and more, which would take up multiple pages if left on /v/

/vg/ was needed because of all the undying "X General" threads being made taking of space and throttling discussion. They also last longer on /vg/ because of all the other generals up.

/vr/ is a case I'm not certain was all that needed, but the community reception of it seems mostly positive.

/v/ is also one of the top three boards in terms of traffic next to /b/, and those above splits have helped slow it down a bit. It's still fairly fast, but there's many video games out there to talk about, as well as related material.
There really doesn't need to be a further split for /v/, however that's an argument that deserves it's own thread all its own.

>>564151
>/vr/ is a case I'm not certain was all that needed, but the community reception of it seems mostly positive.

yep... great board.

>/v/ is also one of the top three boards in terms of traffic next to /b/, and those above splits have helped slow it down a bit. It's still fairly fast, but there's many video games out there to talk about, as well as related material.
There really doesn't need to be a further split for /v/, however that's an argument that deserves it's own thread all its own.

... yeah i think that kinda solves everything. current vidya goes in /v/ old vidya goes in /vr/ and /vr/ ages every year so new games can be discussed over time...

I kinda want a /ma/ though, personally I think a manga board would be great, and as long as it isn't /a/ style flavor or the month/lurk moar faggot type shit, then its fine.

sure people shouldn't pop up every day for mange recommendations but at the same time hostility isn't needed.

>>564114
>using /q/ threads to determine what /a/ wants
Please don't. Most of /a/ just wishes this board never existed.

All appeals to precedents and slippery slopses aside, if there's a /vr/, then there's really no reason not to include a /ma/. /a/ has become too large for it's (or rather manga's) own good.
Generally I support a shift to an increased number of subboards (not inflationary, of course) within a certain topic. We already have that kinda going on /a/ with /m/ and the dumping boards if you count them.

However, lumping /ma/ together with Western comics would be ridiculous. I think manwha and manhua should be welcome though.

>>564212
>>using /q/ threads to determine what /a/ wants
>Most of /a/ just wishes this board never existed.
Hope you realize the irony in that.

>>564249
No, you lost me there.

>>564254
Lemme greentext
>using a single posters perception to determine if /a/ is sympathetic to /q/
>using a vocal minority on /a/ to determine if /a/ is sympathetic to /q/

>>564257
So are you then positing the theory that /a/ is, in fact, sympathetic to /q/ in any way at all?

So I take it reception on OP's idea isn't that good, huh?

>>564259
No, unlike you I'm not positing or disputing the dominance of any group by virtue of lacking data.

>>564266
You seem to be implying it's a possibility though. I'm not claiming that I'm a representative of all of /a/, but if you've spent any length of time there since the reintroduction of /q/ you'd have a pretty good idea of the general opinion of this board there. It is largely quite negative.

>>564263
Not so great.

>>564268
>You seem to be implying it's a possibility though. I'm not claiming that I'm a representative of all of /a/, but if you've spent any length of time there since the reintroduction of /q/ you'd have a pretty good idea of the
I'm spending way more time on /a/ than I should dude.
>general opinion of this board there. It is largely quite negative.
That's a fallacy. No one who's sympathetic to /q/ is being vocal/noticeable about it. That's just not how it works. Can you imagine a thread "Man, I like /q/ so much"? Or even a random post? At best you get a defense of the board after someone bashing it. /q/ is in essence boring customer service, it's not something that excites enough for someone to declare their love for it.
On the other hand, /q/ can be pretty negatively polarizing to some people because it's perceived a whiny normalfags trying to change /a/, which was a somewhat justified impression particularly in the beginning of /q/.
That, however, doesn't say anything about the "general opinion", and even if it would, how exactly does that influence a suggestion uttered here? You might hate /q/ conceptually but still think a manga board or other improvements are needed. It doesn't matter at all through which channels they were formulated.

>>564282
>No one who's sympathetic to /q/ is being vocal/noticeable about it.
Point taken, but I don't think that changes the fact that the majority of people who have an opinion have a negative one. People bash /q/ every time it's mentioned and I've never seen a single person defend it.

>it's perceived a whiny normalfags trying to change /a/, which was a somewhat justified impression particularly in the beginning of /q/.
I don't think that ever stopped being the case, really. It's a generalization of course, but it's certainly the major problem I see with most /a/ threads on /q/ - that the people complaining don't actually go on /a/. There have been plenty threads in the past week alone demonstrating this. Again though, I realize it's a generalization.

>how exactly does that influence a suggestion uttered here?
I'm just saying that anyone taking a large number of threads on /q/ on a topic as an indicator that that people on some other board want something as >>564114 suggested is a horrible idea. Especially because most people don't even browse /q/, which is a more important point than anything else I just said. You'd have to be some sort of masochist to frequent this board.

>>563575
> Manga, on the other hand, is a really nerdy thing to do, and some people get ridiculed for it
I have a feeling you are a woman that doesn't check her facts. Get the fuck out you piece of shitl.

>>563845
What are you? 10 y/o. Go back to you jobless board.

I'll be honest, I would welcome this, since I don't really like Anime, but read a lot of manga.

But realistically, I think it's better to separate the board into actively airing shows and shonen jump threads on one board, and the rest on another board.

>>563899
epic meme :)

All you'll be getting is big 3 threads with some flavor of the month like terraformers with a bunch of dead threads with no replies of manga nobody gives a shit about
Creating another niche board is a retarded idea.

>>564289
>don't actually go on /a/
You have no way of proving this and are just assuming they don't because they disagree with you.

>>564401
How could you possibly know this /a/-kun? Sounds like a baseless assumption to me.

>>564416
Every other manga discussion lasts for 10 posts before they're shoved to the last page and 404.
The only threads that ever have a lively discussion are one piece, bleach,berserk, monster girl garbage, flavor of the month:terraformars and the one page recommendations. Getting an entire board dedicated to manga hoping people will respond to your thread because no anime to populate the board is an awful assumption. No one posts in them simply because they don't care or wish to discuss it. Not because people can't see your thread. Moot already said he wouldn't make any more splitoffs or humor the idea since they end poorly and serve no purpose like /jp/

>>564452
What would it hurt giving manga a chance?

>>564412
You mean aside from people admitting as much?

>>564457
What? You mean a bunch of f/a/gs just blindly asserting that it wouldn't work?

>>564458
Who said what now?

>>564456
It simply isn't needed or necessary in the first place for Moot to consider the idea. That's all there is to it. There's just a tiny fraction of manga threads made compared to anime and it's isn't obtrusive like the generals on /v/ that had an entire board dedicated to them made /vg/

>>564460
Why isn't it necessary? Because you and the majority of /a/ say so? Manga threads don't even have a chance on /a/, it wouldn't hurt you at all to let them have their own board. If it fails, it fails but that won't stop you from having your best girl seasonal waifu discussions on /a/.

>>564461
>Why isn't it necessary?
Like I said only a tiny few manga threads are made. You're just going to have to be as obnoxious or numerous as wrestling fags/asp/ or generals/vg/ on /v/ for them to create a board for manga
>Manga threads don't even have a chance on /a/
You're free to create them and if they don't get any replies people probably don't care. I still don't see too mahy of them made in the catalog either way.

>>564464
You just said the same "because I said so" response you've been saying and didn't elaborate on how it would harm /a/ at all. I don't use /a/ because it's garbage, I left when /jp/ was created because /a/ has become basically like /b/. It's a cesspool of memes, greentext and other trash. Have you ever thought there are people who like manga but don't want any thing to do with /a/ or it's culture?

Before you tell me to lurk more, I've been on /a/ since 2006 and I'm not going to Gaia or MAL because that is an asinine suggestion. Those places are even worse than /a/ and that's why we want a manga board. The majority of /a/ can't even understand Japanese and that vastly limits the amount of manga we can discuss. A manga board might be slow but it would at least give less known manga a chance without them getting pushed off the board by seasonal waifu best girl and why is she so lewd garbage threads. Whether you want to admit it or not, your board is trash and a lot of people who would potentially discuss manga don't bother with it.

>>564468
>"because I said so" response
Yeah I know I listed off some reasons why a manga board isn't needed. It's terrible there are potential users who could exist but since they don't say anything there isn't a huge demand for a manga board. Tough break man

>>564469
Your reasons were all bare assertions and tired /a/ cliches. A few people are saying something right now but when ever anyone disagrees with the /a/ norm a bunch of /a/ legion faggots show up and shit on whatever they have to say telling them to go back to MAL or lurk more when they have been here longer. Not everyone that dislikes /a/ is new man. Like I said I've been here since 2006 and the whole /a/ culture just gets fucking old after a while.

>>564468
>I've been on /a/ since 2006
And then you clearly switched to /jp/ assuming by your posts.

>>564475
>bare assertions
Oh god, I'm getting a bad feeling about this.
https://archive.foolz.us/_/search/text/bare%20assertion/

>>564478
Yes, I stated that clearly. I know you don't know Japanese but can you read English?

>>564479
None of those people invented that term and it applies to this situation.

>>564475
Huh? There really isn't many manga threads that go on /a/. I usually check by the catalog date creation instead of bump so I don't miss them if they're created. There really isn't that much manga discussion and if you did browse /a/ which you don't you would see it. I guess they're cliches and spouted often simply because many others have seen it. Moot just doesn't want to make another niche board like he did with /jp/ and touhou

>>564483
I'm implying that you're getterfag, and therefore no one should ever attempt to entertain you in any kind of discussion. Based on your rabid shitposting earlier in this thread I'm pretty satisfied in that assumption.

>>563646

Just go to /jp/ or [s4s]. They're both vastly superior over /a/.

>>564484
I browse /a/ from time to time and it's always garbage. Like I said earlier, who would bother making a thread about untranslated manga when it's obvious no one on /a/ has any interest in it. I'm still waiting to hear how it would hurt /a/ to have a manga board.

>>564487
You can imply that all you want but you have absolutely no evidence and I don't even know who that person is. I don't keep track of your /a/ trips.

>>564491
You can't discuss manga on /jp/ it is against the rules. s4s is basically /b/.

>>564494

So? Just do it anyway, /jp/ is our personal /b/. [s4s] has a a sizeable /jp/ refugee population, and the others normally leave you alone.

>>564494
It probably wouldn't but again it's unneeded

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I also want a manga board more than anything else, but if /a/ bitches too much about it so whatever.

>>563638
So why did moot make /vr/ then?

>>564967
Because he made a really fucking horrible decision.

/v/ is also a sack of shit for an entirely different reason. That reason being they have no interest in the actual topic at hand

I don't watch anime and read a couple of manga but I'd like to learn about the latter. I don't go to /a/ because I rarely see any interesting manga threads.

>>564452
>Every other manga discussion lasts for 10 posts before they're shoved to the last page and 404.
This is why /ma/ is needed. Those 10 posts threads on /a/ might not appeal the mass, which make their threads to fall off quickly. But remember there are people with odd tastes, and they would have continued with the discussion, had it not fall off from the board.

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>>564452

I see Akame Ga Kill threads once in a while.

I'm an ignorant fuck on the subject (I've never even actually watched a full anime) but I thought an /ag/ (Anime and Manga Generals) would be pretty cool, what with Idolmaster, Drawfriends, and whatever else there is. The main retort I'm getting to this is "It wouldn't be nearly active enough" but judging by this thread that doesn't seem so true now does it?

P.S. what happened to my name?

>>565068
/vr/ is a fine board.

The reason why it was made is because you can't have a discussion about old games in /v/ without being called a nostalgiafag.

>>565314
Please fuck off if you don't know any thing about anime or manga.

>>565320
/vr/ isn't good, it's full of cancerous elitism.

>>563575
>I know that in Japan, anime is seen as an entry-level-type media to many otaku for anyone getting into otaku culture. Anime is so popular that high school students and stay-at-home moms even watch it. Manga, on the other hand, is a really nerdy thing to do, and some people get ridiculed for it.
That's where I stopped reading.
You sounded pretty believeble at first but now... Go away, troll.

>>565314
>akame ga kiru
Yeah but the tripfag(Roko) who kept those threads alive hasn't posted in them for a while. I think everyone else just forgot about the series beside MAJIKOI writer wrote this!

>>565506
Just... epic /a/ro. /a/ culture!