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the sticky says not to complain about bans or thread deletions but the message says criticism goes on /q/ so here it is:

why did janjans delete my threads trying to discuss characters in vns yet there are at least 3 threads for playstation games and threads for random shit like school uniforms and cavemen up for days?

another issue not directly related to my ban but something that's been pissing me off for a while: there are 3 idolfag threads on the front page right now. it was an eyesore when they kept it to one thread, but this is completely ridiculous. why can't these faggots fuck off to /mu/ or something? it's completely unfair that they get to shit up the board like this while other threads get deleted just for having animu screenshots.
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Show the post you where banned for
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>>701873
I was probably banned for making my thread for the third time complaining about it being deleted.

the original thread was
>>>/jp/11203368
and I don't think I was breaking any rules. I suspect that jannyboy just deletes anything with an animu picture for the op without reading the comment. on the other hand I've seen threads that have nothing to do with otaku culture stay up for days just because they have a japanese person in the op.
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pls respond

I just want to talk about rich girl characters but I don't want to get banned again
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I thought VN discussion was a /jp/ thing?
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>>701969
so did I which is why I don't understand why my thread was deleted

moot needs to be more clear about what's allowed in /jp/ and what's not because right now you might as well flip a coin
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>>701884
>I was probably banned for making my thread for the third time complaining about it being deleted.

So what makes you think you can complain about that?

>I suspect that jannyboy just deletes anything with an animu picture for the op

It wasn't that hard to figure out, was it?

>without reading the comment.

So which part of your comment suggested that your thread does not belong on /a/ instead?
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>>702006
it's obvious janiturd just saw an animu picture and didn't even notice that it was a type moon character or that my comment had nothing to do with /a/ and then acted like a bitch when I remade the thread with a different picture.

I bet I could have posted the exact same comment with a picture of some random japanese girl and it wouldn't have gotten deleted. that's bullshit.
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>>702016
What's obvious is that people saw your shitty threads and reported them to hell and back. I know I would if I were around at that time. And you'd have known it's going to happen had you just lurked for a while before attempting to post, like you should.

And it's not happening for no reason. There's a strong correlation between posting anime screencaps and being an obnoxious retard thinking he owns the board and willing to shit it up for everyone else. The fit you've thrown is a perfect example. It's better to make you fuck off immediately rather than wait until you decide to throw a similar fit in those "playstation, idolfag and random shit" threads just because you don't like them.
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https://archive.foolz.us/jp/thread/11203477/
>why did you delete my thread janny
everything else is irrelevant, that sentence alone breaks global rule 8, which is in fact what you were banned for

>there are 3 idolfag threads
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>why can't these faggots fuck off to /mu/
posting pictures of idols isn't related to music at all. i don't visit these threads, though, and have skimmed through maybe two or three ever, so if music discussion really does go on in there then that's all i have to say about the subject.

>>701884
>on the other hand I've seen threads that have nothing to do with otaku culture stay up for days
and you don't report them, so you can't use that as an excuse.
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>>702078
>>702049
there was absolutely no legitimate reason for my original thread to be deleted. I was trying to talk about characters from visual novels, which is at least one level above "bath time with yomou" and "reimu what's sex" threads.

>>>/jp/11207991
this thread has been up for 3 days now. is anthropology otaku culture? I don't think so, but even if I report it nothing will happen because janishit gives a free pass to anything with japanese people in the op.
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>>702552
>there was absolutely no legitimate reason for my original thread to be deleted

Anime screencaps have long been grounds for deletion.

>I was trying to talk about characters from visual novels

So maybe you should have screencapped a visual novel for the OP instead.

>which is at least one level above "bath time with yomou" and "reimu what's sex" threads

Not really, they at least usually have a board-related picture accompanying them. But more importantly, you should probably be comparing your thread to some that aren't regularly deleted as well.

>is anthropology otaku culture?

It's a diverse niche Japanese interest, if that's what you ask about.

I find your hypocrisy amusing. Yes, threads won't get deleted just because you report them. There must be a valid reason for it. Photos of a 3D person aren't one. Anime screencaps are a sufficient reason, partly because they're off-topic, partly because of a long history of shitposting associated with them. A history you just added to.
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>>702592
the original picture I used was two type moon characters. it shouldn't matter if it was a screencap. my thread was completely legitimate and would have continued to be that way if janifag hadn't decided to be a bitch.

>It's a diverse niche Japanese interest, if that's what you ask about.
no it isn't you shitfuck. I can't make threads about the nikkei just because it's related to japan, although it might not get deleted as long as I use a picture of a japanese person.
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>>>/jp/11190145
and what about this thread? since when is dynasty warriors otaku culture? threads about it have gotten deleted before. it's obvious jannie is completely incompetant and just hasn't deleted it because he doesn't know what it's from.
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>>>/jp/11219143
wow how about this one? why is anthropology otaku culture but diet isn't? oh wait, I know why, because the op of the deleted thread didn't use a picture of a jap.
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>>702600
>as long as I use a picture of a japanese person
>>702614
>because the op of the deleted thread didn't use a picture of a jap
so which one is it?

in case you weren't aware, the staff for /jp/(or any board) isn't perfect. i've seen dozens of rule-breaking threads in the past make their way to the near end of the catalog/past page 6-7, a few of those even starting with nudity.

this is where the community comes in. reporting threads gives them a heads-up that someone thinks something is wrong with the thread that was reported.

but again, you don't report threads at all, so there's very little point in explaining this to you.

besides all of this, /q/ is not a second report button(not that you use the actual one to begin with).
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>>703242
how do you know I don't report threads? are you janiturd himself? I already said that even when I do report threads it doesn't matter because moot put some crossboarder moron in charge of /jp/ who doesn't know what otaku culture is and decides what's on topic based on whether the op has a 2hu or japanese girl picture.
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>>703252
nice damage control.
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>>703285
what are you even going on about? I've made myself perfectly clear. /jp/'s moderation is totally incompetant and lets off topic garbage slide yet deletes completely legitimate threads based on the op picture.
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>>703296
/jp/ moderation has demonstrated it does its job well by deleting your off-topic garbage and then banning you for your subsequent breaches of global rule 8. You have made completely clear that you're a shitposter by making said breaches of rule 8. By that point anything you might have to say about what does and does not belong on /jp/ was instantly void - someone who's not competent enough to post on /jp/ is obviously not qualified to comment on the work of people who moderate it.
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>>703317
>off-topic
you have yet to provide any argument at all how my thread was off topic aside from bitching about the picture. I think you really must be jannyboy. why don't you do us all a favor and tell moot the job is too much for you?
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>>703336
On-topic or not, the original thread was nothing to write home about, and it's even less desirable for using an anime screencap just like the ones that are being spammed on /jp/. It won't be missed. And nor will abrasive fuckwits like yourself.
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>>703336
>any argument
>aside from bitching about the picture
you're just embarrassing yourself further.

/a/ has the general consensus that vn discussion is fine if there's an anime tied to it. since you want to start threads with anime screencaps to then discuss something different, go there. or better yet, the staff clearly has a vendetta with you, and not others, since their threads are being left alone, so leave and don't come back.
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>>703363
you're the one embarrassing yourself if you think it makes any sense for a picture to be ok if it's from a game but not ok when it's the exact same characters in an animu screencap. I could make a thread in /v/ with a picture of a blender and no one would care as long as the comment was about video games.
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>>703362
if on topic threads are getting deleted then there's a problem with the moderation.

>It won't be missed. And nor will abrasive fuckwits like yourself.
I can almost feel the crossboarder leaking out of your posts
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>>703369
i'm embarrassing myself because you're using off-topic images to start threads?

>I could make a thread in /v/...
this thread is about /jp/, no? the boards, as well as it's communities are vastly different; it wouldn't be crazy to assume their customs are different as well.
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>>703369
>please discuss oujou characters and why they're always the best girl

This is obviously not /jp/-related in itself. In fact, it's so vague and general it could reasonably be on-topic on half of the 4chan boards, depending entirely on the context. And the context you've provided was an anime screencap.
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>>703371
I don't care if it's on-topic, I care whether the thread was any good. And even if it was a mistake, retaliating like that is an even bigger one.

>>703374
That and /v/ probably isn't being spammed with anime screencap shitposts day in day out.
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>>703374
the image was not off topic. it was two characters from one of the franchises that got /jp/ created in the first place.

>>703377
>it could reasonably be on-topic on half of the 4chan boards
idols could be on topic in /mu/
2hu could be on topic in /v/
trains could be on topic in /n/
tea could be on topic in /ck/
lucktiles could be on topic in /tg/

>>703380
>/v/ probably isn't being spammed with anime screencap shitposts day in day out.
it's like you don't even go there either. do all of you /q/ faggots just sit here and try to rule down on people you aren't even related to? you should try running for public office.
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>>703978
No I don't browse /v/, that's why I said "probably". So, do you also have someone spamming textless anime screencap threads?
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>>703978
and you claimed it was an anime screencap of two characters.

from what i remember, /jp/ was created to get the 'non-anime/manga' stuff out of /a/. anime wasn't one of these reasons, ergo, /jp/ wasn't created for anime.

>x could be on topic in y
anime could be on topic in /a/. oh wait!

but you know, i look forward to you attacking me while avoiding everything that i just pointed out. what was that called again? straw... berry? straw... house?
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The problem with deciding what is or isn't on-topic with /jp/ is because the title of the board doesn't really make much sense anyway.

Otaku are anoraks with an incredibly unhealthy obsession of a particular subject, they transcend typical 'nerd' or 'geek' stereotypes. They are identified by an encyclopedic knowledge of their chosen subject and their deep obsession that drives them to know everything about said subject.

There really is no such thing as 'otaku culture' in the literal sense but of course the term on 4chan is used for the stereotypical otaku image most western anime fans have of otaku. This is why moderation ranges from being incredibly liberal to carpet bombing absolutely everything.

You have to use common sense when posting in /jp/ about what does or doesn't belong.
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>>704000
two type moon characters you moron. do these words mean anything to you or are below the level of crossboarder even?
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>>704010
as we've already established multiple times in this thread, anime on /jp/ is not allowed. it has a dedicated board for it, and even with intentions of discussing something entirely different and on-topic, doesn't justify it. the only people you have to blame for it escalating to this point is the ones that have used anime to shitpost on /jp/ in the past, not any of the board staff. here are a few examples from your posts in this thread showing that you're aware of this fact(maybe not, actually):
>>702016
>just saw an animu picture
>>702600
>it was a screencap

i'm not going to go in circles with you anymore, and based off of your distinct hatred for the /jp/ staff, i have a very good idea who you are, and how you're breaking another global rule. i'm not going to go anymore into that, though, because i've learned where it leads from past threads you've made on /q/, and i don't want to bother going through that again.

you're still embarrassing yourself.
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>>704030
you have no idea who I am. all you're doing is proving that you're an autistic little fuck who thinks a thread is about anime just because it uses a picture from one as the op. people spamed accelerator on /a/ for months but using a picture of him to start an index thread was never forbidden. I could probably find at least one right now if I looked.

>All images and discussion should pertain to light and visual novels, figures and other otaku paraphernalia, Touhou Project, Vocaloid, doujin works and music, and diverse niche Japanese interests (kigurumi, idols, mahjong, tea)

my image had 2 characters from a visual novel and my comment was pertaining to lns and vns. nothing in my post was against the rules. janitors are supposed to enforce the rules as they're written, not their biased interpretation of them. if you really are janishit either resign or have moot update the rules to fit your stupid ideas.
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>>704074

If you're making a thread about anime, why didn't you post it in /a/ instead of /jp/? Also Janitors that dare step foot in /jp/ rarely have little idea of what they are doing, it took a lot of convincing to show them why PC98 threads were /jp/ related but even then they will occasionally carpet bomb and mass-delete everything when the shitposting is too rampant to pinpoint.

/jp/ is one of those boards where you are pissing in an ocean of piss, unless you've got some solid discussion going on in your thread and a few hundred replies there is every chance it will get deleted for no reason. It's dumb and it shouldn't be like this really, but I wouldn't take it too personally in any case.
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>>704074
This is all irrelevant, you've already destroyed yourself with the subsequent threads. But why would you use an anime screencap with such a vague thread? It's inviting trouble, and as I'm sick of telling you, anime anything is hated on /jp/, with very good reason.
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>>704088
>If you're making a thread about anime
the thread wasn't fucking about anime

>Janitors that dare step foot in /jp/ rarely have little idea of what they are doing
this is exactly what I'm talking about. I'll bet my house that the reason that dynasty warriors thread I linked earlier didn't get deleted until I pointed it out was because the janitor thought it was for ar tonelico or something he's not supposed to delete.

>>704090
>anime anything is hated on /jp/, with very good reason.
according to who? crossboarder /q/ueers?
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>>704117
>according to who? crossboarder /q/ueers?

Anime has never been acceptable on /jp/ apart from a small number of shows and even then the threads are sporadic. Most of it is because people don't want to encourage /a/tards to /jp/ and partly most people go on /jp/ to get away from anime, you can talk about that anywhere really. Making an anime thread on /jp/ will always result in a few /a/ kids coming in with their self righteous shit thinking they know everything about anime and making a fool of themselves while sperging out because nobody will take them seriously.
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>>704117
You just outed yourself as the unwelcome one there. Anime was explicitly forbidden as "topic overlap" in that recent sticky. That and nothing will make up for all the people using anime-related things to shitpost.
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>>704120
>Anime has never been acceptable on /jp/
only because it's against the rules. there's always been "what are you watching this season?" and sion threads that get replies before they're deleted.
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>>704135
why do you keep harping on anime when my thread wasn't about anime? is that all you have?
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>>704141
Whatever your intentions, it was a vague topic with an anime screencap, and the thread itself is meh. And again, none of that matters. All that does is you being an asshole in the subsequent threads.
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>>704151
>none of that matters
how many times do I need to repeat myself? if on topic threads are being deleted then there's a problem with the moderation. if you can't prove that my thread was off topic then the problem is with janishit, not my post.
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>>704157
Even if I agreed that it was a mistake, it's just as much your fault for how you chose to deal with it.
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>>704171
I'm not complaining about getting banned, I'm here to discuss why the thread was deleted in the first place. why do you keep dodging the issue? I've had more straightforward arguments in /pol/.
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>>704173
You've already been given a likely reason: Anime screencap paired with a vague thread.
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>>704180
and again I'm asking you to show me what rule my post was breaking. again let me remind you that janitors are to enforce the rules as written, not according to their biased interpretations.
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>>704183

Threads that start with an anime screenshot will just be seen as shitposting without looking into it too much.

You're basically uprooting a huge underlying flaw with moderation not just on /jp/ but the whole of 4chan, and honestly - I commend you, I think this is a problem that really should be tackled and I'd like to see much tougher moderation with clearly defined lines, but using a vague deleted /jp/ thread as the springboard for your message won't get you anywhere sadly. You're going to need a much bigger, more obvious example of blatant awful moderation on a more important board to push your point out there.

But then again, I've seen people trying to justify 3D feet threads on /a/ as 'board culture' and mods have kept the threads alive because they're scared of the backlash. Shitposters have a hold on 4chan and the only solution is hellbanning and making an example of rule breakers. We basically need a year or so of nazi moderation just to keep people in check and remind them why they are here.
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>>704183
Off-topic, or at least off-topic bait (rule 3).
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>>704195
>just be seen as shitposting without looking into it too much
that's the problem. janiturd doesn't actually look at threads. he just goes around deleting anything that doesn't open with a 2hu picture or a japanese girl.

>>704199
>All images and discussion should pertain to light and visual novels, figures and other otaku paraphernalia, Touhou Project, Vocaloid, doujin works and music, and diverse niche Japanese interests (kigurumi, idols, mahjong, tea)
>This is the appropriate board for the discussion of Japanese visual novels, and light novels without an animated adaptation. Western visual novels should be posted to /vg/, and translated visual novels are fine on either board.
my image was 2 characters from a visual novel. my comment was prompting discussion of a common visual novel character archetype. I made no mention of animated light novels or oelvns. please explain how my thread was off topic based on the above criteria.
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>>704213
>character archetype
where does it say that's allowed anywhere in the rules? while i don't have an answer as to where it should go, making your own biased interpretations of what the board rules are makes you just as 'hypocritical' as you're making the janitor out to be. why should anyone take a hypocrite like you seriously? the janitor is the janitor.

the rules say that discussion should pertain to visual novels, not about visual novels.
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>>704213
Your thread was about a type of character, but you chose to represent the wrong medium: anime.

>that's the problem. janiturd doesn't actually look at threads. he just goes around deleting anything that doesn't open with a 2hu picture or a japanese girl.
Anyone can look through the list of deleted /jp/ threads and tell you you're full of shit.
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>>704222
now you're just being retarded

>>704224
so all you have is the picture. you can't make a single argument for why the thread was off topic.
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>>704234
this entire thread was about people nitpicking over the tiniest of details, which included you.


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