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>>636457 (OP)

I think you misunderstand /a/'s board culture, /a/'s staunt elitism exists to maintain quality anime and manga related content. The decline in the standard of posting is more likely to do with summer and the excitment of E3 causing /v/ermin to break out of their containment board.

>>636457 (OP)
>This is what happens when you let the "board culture" go too far.
Stopped reading there, OP is a huge cock sucking monster cuntfaced dickhole cheesedick eating cum bucket bitch.

>>636457 (OP)

OP, if you don't like it, leave

I think op has a valid point.

>>636457 (OP)
There are plenty of threads discussing currently airing shows.
There are good threads about shows that finished airing very often.

Seems like you are just blinded by all the things you don't like.

Siztra, stop being an ass

>>636492
A lot of people on /q/ have valid points.

Unfortunately, they're all drowned out by the shitposters.

>>636478
>/a/'s staunt elitism exists to maintain quality anime and manga related content.
Is that why you discuss shows meant for 8 year old girls and pedophiles all the time?

>>636501
Yes it is, that's what we like and what the place is meant for.

Every board has its share of off topic garbage. On /a/, though, off topic garbage is part of the board's culture. Carefuly protected by "the team". They don't clear reports anymore since people notice it, they just ignore off topic content they deem harmless.

>>636508
How do people notice that they clear the reports?
Does the "someone with your ip already reported this post" go away or something?

>>636478

Typical /a/ faggot jumping onto the /v/ and summer bogeyman.
Your board is shit and your internet vigilante elitists are delusional. They don't follow rules, they just shitpost on threads they don't like.
/a/ is fucking full of 4chan kultur and they don't even realize it.

Not browsing /jp/.

>>636528
/jp/ is clean as HELL, dude.

>>636478
>/a/'s staunt elitism exists to maintain quality anime and manga related content.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

A wave of deletions just happened but "culture" threads are still there.

Poll/Blogging/Fetish culture, 2x 500+ posts:
>>>/a/87335984
>>>/a/87340797

Video games culture:
>>>/a/87338655

Random culture:
>>>/a/87335480

It's harmless. It's 2D. People like it. People have fun.

At least completely brainless shitposting does get moderated:
>>>/a/87345706

For anything else, don't even think about wasting your time typing the report captcha.

Also, porn. I honestly don't know what happened, but nsfw posts do consistently get deleted nowadays. Maybe they finally got rid of the pro-porn janitor.

Oh shut the fuck up and stop abusing /q/.
You know what's worse than unrelenting shitposting on your home board? A suffocating atmosphere of moderation.
Fuck off if you don't care for it.

Yay, every board should be like /tv/!

Mods, save me from the shitposters whomake it impossible to discuss anime!

>>636544
>>636547

I know your butt is really sore but nobody is going to fall for you slippery slope fallacy.

Fuck off and leave /a/ alone. Stop trying to fix stuff that doesn't need to be messed with.

>>636457 (OP)
It's pretty obvious you're mad about your own posts getting moderated, and you want to bash the board any way you can.

>>636521
>/a/ is fucking full of 4chan kultur and they don't even realize it.
/a/ is aware that it's one of the last few bastions of old 4chan culture, and likes it that way. 4chan is meant to have a balance; a wild west atmosphere where most posts are on-topic but boards aren't choked by excessive moderation. The /a/ mods have been doing a decent job of maintaining that while they're online.

No it won't be fixed since the /a/ regulars don't want it to change. That's what you get for a board full of the same people that can spend a lot of time on it. Good thing newcomers will never outnumber the old dogs and an invasion is almost impossible.

>>636595 >>636595
This. 4chan in general has pretty much always been defined by the community. Mods can only moderate discussion not create it. Op would be much better served by an anime forum where everything is strictly controlled. Also most threads before Thursday are secondary threads because there's very few epsiodes being released. Also, most of the culture is there because thats the only suitable userbase for them, much like /co/ with toonami.

>>636606
You are absolutely right but there's also a huge difference between "things you don't like" and "clearly off topic material that has nothing to do with /a/".
I don't think many people honestly rage over waifu spam, "moeshit" and other /a/ related, albeit low quality, material. But it's pretty normal to question threads that have nothing to do with anime and manga, like random video games, random light novels, random blogging, etc...

>>636595

/a/ was never so much covered in garbage because new people come by, pick up the current fad (waifu, naruto, sluts) and repost it ad nauseum while the regulars keep scrolling, desperately trying to find something fresh, interesting or funny to read.

>>636759
>>636779
/q/ is not your personal report button.
Don't mute me. Why can't I sage.

>>636786
First of all you are bumping a thread you don't agree with and not contributing to discussion at all. Why you would do this is beyond me.

Secondly the 'if someone else does something wrong, I can do it as well'-attitude needs to go. It's hilariously rude to every decent user on the site and incredibly self destructing.

>>636509
Yes, and extra for the filter.

I like how we have this thread every day and people still don't learn.
/a/ remembers, while most boards have been a thousand times raped and are mere shadows of their former selves.
/a/ likes anime. /a/ will discuss anime. This will not change, therefore you demands are superfluous.

>>636875
One thing has definitely never changed. Anime fans have always felt special regardless of the website they're on.

Mods on /a/ are the laziest shits on the whole site.

Moot should fire, ban, and set fire to them.

Report shows up on the log on IRC. Clear log.

That's all they fucking do is clear logs all day. They never delete anything. We got blogshits, v-shits, 3DPD shits, all sorts of just shit shit on /a/ and they do nothing about it.

>>636919
Mods are global, not /a/ specific.

>>636920
stop with that shit. Mods are global in the sense that they can moderate any board and aren't assigned to them, but the mods don't do that, they find whatever fucking board they like and just moderate that one, /a/'s mod is notorious for that, 99% of the time on /a/ and when he wanders off /a/ he enforced /a/'s rules on the other boards.

>>636935
You really know your stuff.
You are probably wrong though. You speak as if no mod has any sense of responsibility. I can agree that their main board will be the most moderated, but the other things you said are clearly bullshit.

>>636530
That's because they shit up every other board on all of 4chan instead.

>>636969

Shut up, /jp/ stay on their own board you dumb faggot. Don't speak about things you don't know about.

Fucking newfags man fucking newfags. If you want to just discuss anime/manga then you can go to some forum with strict moderation. 4chan is not about extremely strict moderation. Lurk more faggot.

OP got to explain what the word "circlejerking" means

I'm even looking at the front page and they are all anime threads. Why would OP say anime threads are against the rules in an anime board?

I mean I agree with the fetish threads and the VN threads (VNs are more of a /jp/ thing anyway), but I don't think "circlejerking" actually means anything except "anime thread I don't like."

>>636999

That's exactly what it means. Because they're all fans of a particular show, any thread they make is labelled a circlejerk.

>>636986
Yes because 4chan is about every board being a Random board.

More often than not, more than a half of the threads on /a/ have nothing to do with anime or manga. You look at the catalog and ask yourself "How are those threads even remotely related to /a/?". And the answer is "Well I guess it's because it's 2D".
If it's 2D, it's /a/ related. It can be anything: video games, books, visual novels, random japan-related threads, random fetish image dumps. As long as it is slightly japanese, 2D and kawaii looking, it's /a/ related.

They really should rename /a/ to 2D/Random.

>>637026
They are all 2D and made in Japan, and they all pertain to anime or manga, or a medium related to them like LNs, VNs, or hentai.

you don't see any western cartoons or comics there unless it's the result of a raid and anyone that has large post are post telling the OP off for thinking westernshit is anime.

VNs and Hentai can be removed, but what of Light Novels which most anime today is adapted from?

>>637026
See you are starting to get the idea, now fuck off to some forum.

>>637047
hush, adults are talking

>>637038

Sure, LN, VN and games with anime adaptations are obviously /a/ related.

But completely random 2D stuff doesn't exactly belong on /a/.

OP truly understands the cancer killing interest boards, tertiary off topic bullshit that is justified via >"muh board culture". or >"well the board is /x/ and I mentioned x once in the OP post so it's on topic" /sp/ shitposter logic.

>>637047
4chan is a forum.

>>637052
The problem with 2D/random title is that it implies that /a/ accepts anything outside east asia.

Even anime/random is loaded because that means we have to accept shit like emoticons and other stuff no one on /a/ accept, so OP is basically encouraging shitposting.

if you remove the threads about anime, manga, LNs, and VNs from /a/ all you get are hentai fetish threads and a bunch of troll threads that will be deleted in like 5 minutes. Not that very random

I mean I can't believe both sides think that series like Oreimo is not anime related and only accepted due to "/a/ culture."

Am I the only one who thinks Oreimo is an anime?
Am I the only one who thinks threads about anime cliches are anime related?
Am I the only one who thinks anime images are not anime related?
I mean people made the argument against a manga board because "manga is too close to anime to separate" and VNs and LNs aren't? Despite their proximity they are still not /a/ related? If so, then why don't I have my manga board?

maybe anime is not anime after all, and that talking about it makes us no different from /b/.

>>637057
4chan is an image board, there's a difference. Not that pleb like you would know.

>>637074
Might as well be a forum, since apparently anime images don't belong there.

>>637074
>4chan is an image board, there's a difference.
>probably pitiful latin vocabulary
>using pleb unironically anyways
>learned the word from 4chan
Anyhow, an imageboard is merely a subspecies of forum, so no, there isn't a difference in the way you're implying.
#themoreyouknow

>>637083
>twitter hashtag

you're a troll

Lurk some more and thou shallest receive enlightment

>>637084
>you're a troll
Welcome to /q/.

>twitter hashtag
Hashtags are not exclusive to Twitter, in fact they originated in IRC.

>>637085
This isn't a matter of lurking anymore. In any sense of the word OP is wrong. He says most of the threads on /a/ is not /a/ related, but they are all about anime. He calls the threads "circlejerking" but all that word seems to mean is "they like an anime I don't." He says /a/ will accept anything as long as it's 2D but /a/ often spams any western animation threads with redirects to /co/.

OP is just fundamentally wrong in all levels

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>>637072
Random 2D images != anime images. Not sure what you are trying to say here.

The issue probably is that you can go on pixiv for example, grab a random image and post it on /a/ with some random comment like "I love short dresses". And the thread can stay up for days if you feed it and necrobump it enough. And no matter how many reports it will get, it most likely won't get deleted because 2D.

Hence, 2D/Random.

Pic related, it's prue /a/ material.

You're looking for an anime board with strict moderation, where everything that the mods deem off-topic will get you banned and any discussion about certain anime, manga or games is outright forbidden because they contain themes such as "incest" or are "for pedophiles"?

Well aren't you lucky for such a place already exists!
They call it ADTRW and for the small fee of 10 dollars YOU can be part of it, too!

>>637093
anime images = anime images

There's little to no images on /a/ not related to some anime pixiv or no pixiv.
Maybe there are images of VN characters, but images like the one you posted are very rare on /a/. Most come from high school SoLs, harem anime or Eva.

>>637090
> He says /a/ will accept anything as long as it's 2D but /a/ often spams any western animation threads with redirects to /co/.
Japanese 2D obviously. If it's 2D/Japanese/Kawaii looking, it's /a/ related.

>>637103
>If it's 2D/Japanese/Kawaii looking, it's /a/ related.
It ain't. We don't have threads about Japanese economics now, do we?

>>637103
If you are going to try to change the name of /a/ at least state that /a/ only accepts the Japanese ones.

Even then there are board policies that /a/ wants enforced on the board. Shit like Twitter hashtags for example. /a/ wants strict moderation (especially this summer) but no one wants to have their anime forbidden because of it, nor do they want their discussions limited by arbitrary rules set by a third party they don't know about.

>>637098
>anime images = anime images
I know, it's just you seem to automatically associate anything Japanese or 2D with anime.

Like I said, you can take some random fanart from pixiv and make a thread about it, and chances are, it won't get deleted, even though it has absolutely, positively nothing to do with Anime & Manga, besides having a japanese 2D picture in the OP.

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>>637121
yeah sure is random pixiv threads

>>637131
Anybody can cherrypick. The point is, your threads will be safe from deletion if the OP looks slightly anime-ish, like explained here >>637121

And I'm not even saying /a/ is flooded with random fanart, why are you so defensive?

>>637137
This is a thread where OP ask to defend /a/, so of course I'm being defensive. That's like making shitpost threads and asking people "why so mad?" I mean what the fuck is wrong with you?

90% of the images on /a/ are anime or manga related, 9% is shitposting from people who come to /a/ to shitpost (because boards like /q/ tend to encourage it). and because of the 1% all of /a/ should be called the random board. Ain't that nice.

>>637141
My point was more about what you can and can't do on /a/. It's not really about shitposting or renaming the board (you are probably the only person here to take the renaming idea seriously).

And currently on /a/, your threads and posts don't have to be related to anime and manga in the slightest, they only need to look japanese or 2D (VNs, LNs, games, random fanart dump without any kind of connection to anime or manga are fine for example).

>>637150
If the discussion doesn't have much to do with anime it would get shitposted on. Only time the "just post image and it's related" thing works is if it is JUST the anime image and no discussion (/a/ is an image board, so there are image threads here).

For the other way around that if the thread is about content relating to anime whether the image is anime related doesn't matter as much. Like the thread is talking about robot girls in anime though it has a pic of a robot girl from pixiv it's still about robot girls in anime.

You theory relies on if /a/ doesn't exactly know if the character in question is from an anime or not, but more often or not they do and more often than not if the OP does post it he would get attacked.

your example is rare, so rare that OP's accusation is stupid.

>>637150
Except most of those threads get like 2 replies and die

>>637159

Not really. Just yesterday these two threads was up the whole day with janitors constantly dismissing reports.
http://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/87326070
http://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/87338655
And I'm sure if you look at the catalog right now you'll find some similar offtopic threads.

>>637164
There is nothing wrong with the second though. They are talking about a VN (or LN. Fuck I don't read these)

>>637155
>your example is rare, so rare that OP's accusation is stupid.
It's not an example. It's a fact. If I go grab some random fanart from pixiv or some random cute video from niconico and post it on /a/ along with some catchy comment, the thread won't get deleted. And I'll be able to necrobump it until it reaches the bump limit and dies by itself.

>>637167
VNs and LNs without any kind of connection to anime/manga aren't really /a/ related.

>>637172
>>637164
I can see moving VNs and games to /jp/ and /vg/, but people are mostly complaining of the series that are related to popular anime like Fate/Stay Night, Muv-luv, or Idolmaster which are the most common VN threads on /a/.

you attack a thread only to realize it's connected with anime and look like a dumbass to do that and if you argue that that doesn't make it /a/ related does that mean LN-adapted anime are not /a/ related?

It's hard to not discuss a medium when a good chunk of the medium in question is adapted from that medium.

also now that the "close proximity" argument is debunked, we need a manga board (since they are two different mediums)

>>637172
And what "catchy comment" are you talking about? I mean it goes back to >>637155 where you post a "pixiv image" but the topic in question pertains to anime.

>>637172
>It's not an example. It's a fact. If I go grab some random fanart from pixiv or some random cute video from niconico and post it on /a/ along with some catchy comment, the thread won't get deleted. And I'll be able to necrobump it until it reaches the bump limit and dies by itself.
Most likely no one will pick the thread up again and you'd have to necrobump again

>>637175
>you attack a thread only to realize it's connected with anime and look like a dumbass
What? Where are you getting that from?

>VNs and LNs without any kind of connection to anime/manga aren't really /a/ related.
How am I attacking VNs and LNs with an anime adaptations? Those a 100% /a/ related.

>>637180
No idea. It can be anything. Something subtle, but bloggy enough to generate discussion. Like "What's /a/ opinion on fluffy hair?".

>>637185
Not much difference between "LNs and VNs adapted to anime" and "those that are not. The mediums have too much proximity to each other. If I find a VN that's doesn't have an anime to it I'll redirect the thread to /jp/ but you can't blame the mods for confusing the content or not even caring due to how complex it is. That whole manga board comment is because that's the original reason why 4chan doesn't have a manga board, because like the creation of /jp/ it would just create threads like these. I'm surprised there are no threads attacking mech anime on /a/

Questions like those are made with anime characters in mind. When a person tries to put a context outside of anime characters into the discussion they are usually called out on it.

>>637197
>I'm surprised there are no threads attacking mech anime on /a/
Mech anime is... anime.
VNs and LNs without any kind of connection to anime or manga, besides having "2D" art or being "from japan", don't exactly belong on /a/.
This is where the whole 2D/Random idea comes from. Probably.

I also don't blame anybody, nor am I complaining, I'm just pointing out the current situation about what is allowed on /a/ and what is not (even though the rules say otherwise).

>>637209
I say /a/ should be renamed anime, manga, and Japanese light novels. Then send the VNs to /jp/. also allow and encourage hentai discussion on /h/ and /d/.

That's my compromise.

>>637209
2D/Random has something nostalgic to it. But it would only attract idiots

>>637219
That's the main problem we want to have rules and ordinances while still being allowed to discuss the things related to anime.

Though I would support a anime/random board being made separate of /a/.

I think /a/ needs more Janitors, plain and simple.

I report a lot of thread, but most of the times they stay up for hours.

What about Free threads?


>>>/a/87374487

>>637379
Makoto best girl.

>>637355
Gee, maybe some of those threads you reported didn't need to be deleted?

Op you should really go to a forum. You would be 10xmuch happier there. /a/long isnt the only board for teritary content, /m/ has their toku, /co/with has their western porn, /v/ has their vidya stories threads, /vg/ has their 4chan cup, /sp/ has their sports vidya, /jp/ has its own thing, etc.
Also putting anything /a/ talks about on /jp/has is asking for a shitstorm, /vg/ threads wouldn't sustain very long and I doubt /v/ threads would get the userbase they need to sustain a good thread so /a/talks really is the best choice.
>three threads about /a/ that has been done to death
mods pls

>>637415
>teritary content
There a huge difference between "topic overlap" and purely off-topic content.
Topic overlap, for example, is figures, merchandise, light and visual novels with anime adaptations, and so on.
Off-topic content is... well, it's the 2D/Random content in fact. Things which are "/a/ related" only because they are 2D/Japanese. Like random LNs, VNs, JRPGs, random Japan related topics without.

>>637423
One thing though.
You can very rarely discuss LNs on /jp/. Long LN discussion is usually on /a/.

>>637427
You are right about /jp/, but in this case it doesn't matter. What matters is that on /a/, you can get away with absolutely anything as long as it is /jp/-ish, /c/-ish, random 2D japano-otaku material. It doesn't even have to be even remotely related to anime & manga.

In fact /a/ is more Otaku Culture than /jp/.

>>636457 (OP)
>Can/Will this ever be fixed?

Yes. Eventually summer ends and all of the retards like yourself will go back to college/school.

>>637435
>In fact /a/ is more Otaku Culture than /jp/.
/jp/ is News for VIP

>>637435
I thought /jp/ was meant for 2hus though.

>>637423
Thats my point. /a/ is going to be the only place to go if you want to talk about a LN or VN thats going to be translated. /co/ has the occasional anime discussion, and you want to know why? There series like Naruto, EL, and TTGL, things that /a/ and /m/ want nothing to do with and almost always lead to a bad topic. Its the same thing with JRPGs, VN, LN, what have you. Users go to a board for a certain topic, realize that talking about that topic will cause a shitstorm and go back to a board their more comfortable with.
So is it off-topic and random? Most of the time yeah. Will it get deleted? >4chan > mods
will it ever go away? Probably not.

>>637413

Videogames thread and image dump thread don't need to be deleted, ok?

Also, "it has an anime" is a shitty excuse.

>>>/a/87391025

This a blatant P3 thread about the videogame, why is even allowed?

>>637438
>Yes. Eventually summer ends and all of the retards like yourself will go back to college/school.

Jesus christ, i swear, if i could make a wish to moot, just one wish, i'll ban forever everyone who used the same "excuse".

>>637509
For the same reason anime discussion is allowed on /v/?

>>637435
But the argument is that they are remotely related to anime since they kinda go into the spectrum of anime's overall culture. /jp/ is for the things that really exist outside of anime and they are doing well but some topics of both boards overlap like /a/ does to /m/.

besides /a/ tends to talk about LNs and VNs much less than manga

>>637509
Video game threads will probably need deleting, but last time I checked anime images are anime related

>>637513
with all the E3 spam and other spam occurring you think there's no summer? Though summer is not just an /a/ thing.

>>637445
it is

'Summer' is a bullshit buzzword used by self proclaimed 'oldfags'. Moot himself has said there is no significant increase in traffic during the summer. The only thing that increases is idiotic shitposters claiming 'summer'.

>>636478

>There are actually people who still believe this in 2013

>>637632
Nope, there a migration from shit boards to the others, since /b/tards and /v/ermin have more time on their hands. It doesn't need to be new people that come, it's just the old shitposters.

>>636580
>/a/ is aware that it's one of the last few bastions of old 4chan culture

No it isn't. /a/ currently is nothing like 'old 4chan culture'.

You don't speak for /a/ either, if you actually stuck around /q/ for a while you'd find a lot of longtime /a/ users who use /a/ what it is precisely for - Anime and Manga discussion. They despise the 'culture' threads that include everything from '/a/ sings' to /e/ fetish threads. These are NOT '/a/ culture' and such a thing doesn't exist to begin with, just a collection of hiveminded idiots loudly proclaiming their opinions as some kind of pseudo-fact.

/a/ is for Anime and Manga, nothing more. It was fine (and arguably better) when there was not an influx of

>'she sees your dick'
>'what does ____'s butt smell like?'
>'you're waifu is a slut'
>'tits/ass/legs/feets thread'
>'wuld you a ____?'
>'wich ___ would you _____?'

This isn't '/a/ culture' it's just shitposting defended by others who wish to shitpost about the same things. Let's not forget all the totally off-topic Stream threads, /a/ sings, headphones, battlestations, drawfag, free chalice/mousepad/whatever shit, daily japanese etc. etc.

Most of /a/ doesn't give a shit about anime, they just pretend they do. All they really care about is posting on /a/. Most of them can't even remember the character's names of the series they watch, derail perfectly good discussion threads with /e/ spam and have only watched 200-300 series in total.

>>636595

Fuck off.

>>637674
And now we have gone full circle. OP delete the thread its pretty much done.

>>637674
>/a/ is for Anime and Manga, nothing more
/a/ is a janitor sponsored /b/ 3.0

Take this thread for example
>>>/a/87398974
Your typical muh culture inane image dump full of nsfw crap, carefully ignored by the whole janitoring team because, you know, they "don't want to be nazis'.

>>637829
>deadlink

Top lel. Remember guys, /q/ isn't your second report button.

>>637829
Linking deleted thread doesn't really proof your point.

>>637829

We need tougher moderation regardless, there's plenty of room in /b/ and /s4s/ for Anime/Random. Some of us actually like anime regardless of whether it's Naruto/Moeshit/Shounenshit/DEEPshit/Edgyshit/Grimdark/Manime/Shoujo and we don't give a fucking shit about what x girl's butt smells like, what her armpits taste like, which one you masturbate too and how many images you can dump from danbooru/pixiv in the thread.

I don't fucking get it, what are you trying to do, tell me to masturbate? I know about pixiv, I know about Zerochan, Gelbooru, Danbooru, /e/, /d/, /h/, /u/ and all the other boards, take it somewhere else you moron.

Jesus christ, I know the kids who do this are young and are discovering things about their bodies because they're going through puberty but put it in the right place and don't dump it on the people who just want to talk about a series without it becoming a circlejerk.


"Hey look, an animated gif of a 3 second loop of Kirino's butt circling around, from the episode you literally just finished watching don't you wanna fap to this /b/ro???" No, fuck off - if I did I would rewatch that part of the episode in much higher quality than your gif can offer me. Is this really all you have to say about the anime you just watched? Just stay in Gelbooru if you only watch anime to masturbate and write embarrassing comments about how you like to do it, you'll find people just like yourself.

>>637871
Calm down m8 no reason to be i8. Just learn to take it easy and enjoy the image board.

>>637871
Then you are getting old for 4chan. Leave.

>>637885
>getting old for 4chan
No such thing, sugartits.

>>637871
>just stay in Gelbooru
This should be stickied in large letters on /a/. No "if" afterward, no conditions. Just that.

/a/ - Just Stay In Gelbooru

>>637871
You are making this seems like it's a huge problem. It's not. Many of these threads get deleted. The ones that don't get deleted are going to stay. This doesn't match with your view of /a/? Too bad.

>'what does ____'s butt smell like?'
>'wuld you a ____?'
>'wich ___ would you _____?'
>'you're waifu is a slut'
I don't agree that threads like these should be deleted for example. One is a plain old waifu-thread.
The others can be used to discuss the character in question.
That being said, I agree that characters not from anime or manga (or source material) don't belong on /a/.

>>637942
Please don't feed people who don't bring legimate points to the table.

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>newfags crying like bitches about /a/
/a/ mods are best mods
/thread

>>637880
I don't know I kinda agree with him. /a/ used to be more pure.

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Remember when /jp/ was made to take shit that wasnt anime and manga off the anime and manga board?

Yeah...

Today might just be particularly shitty because of what moot did, but when the entire front page of /a/ is shitposting or nothing to do with anime I do wonder if there is any moderation at all.

>>638742
>tfw these are not anime
>>>/a/87428913
>>>/a/87429784
>>>/a/87424383
>>>/a/87428822
>>>/a/87430723
>>>/a/87409180

>>638742

Thank you, I'm saving this, I'd totally forgotten about this post. Maybe this will shut up retards like >>638210
>>637942
>>637880

Who think that 'lel /a/ cultur' has always been a part of /a/ when it really hasn't.

Even /jp/ doesn't want those posters, which goes to show how fucking awful they are. You know you're a shitty poster when even /jp/ wants nothing to do with you. That's like being shunned from /b/ for acting like a retard, you'd have to have really fucked up to reach that level of shitposting.

>>638971
Yes, because not sharing your point of view truly makes me a retard and a shitposter of an undiscovered level.

You are also implying that /jp/ wants bad posters.

>>636478
Don't push this shit onto /v/. This is the your own doing.
You /a/utists never want to look into the mirror and realize that you are barely any different than the /v/ermin you rag on all the time.
You're both scum. And now you're paying for it.

>>638971
you know which kind of posters no board wants to have? Those who fucking cry like bitches about every single thing without actually supporting their qq with proper arguments, just constant fucking whining and whining.

>>638990
>>639002

It's not about sharing a point of view.

The posts listed are against the rules, they are not anime or manga related, they are just /e/ imagedumps, blogshit and literal circlejerks.

You are a shitposter if you think this is an appropriate way to post on /a/ because It is not.

Here's a tip: Leave /a/ to the people who actually give a shit about anime and manga and go and post your 'she sees your dick' threads in /b/, /s4s/ or /e/

>supporting their qq

I don't think you know what QQ even refers to.

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>>636457 (OP)
>It's harmless as long it is 2D!
>Porn is harmless as long as it is behind a spoiler or not posted in the OP.
>Random image dumps are harmless.
S-STFU you faggots don't know how good you have it

>>639006
>I don't think you know what QQ even refers to
It refers to constant whining, tears everywhere and cries how bad everything is without actually explaining what's wrong and suggestions on how you could fix it.
>>637942
This guy is right, I can't see how those threads can ruin somebodies experience when browsing /a/. There aren't that many of them and if they bother you that much you can hide them. Literally every single ongoing show get's plenty of discussion threads, just stay in them if that's the only thing you want from /a/. I personally visit /a/ to first of all have fun and pardon me if I am enjoying myself on this website.

>>639006
No. YOU think the listed posts are against the rules. I said that I think some of them aren't, but of course your viewpoint is the correct one and I'm a shitposter.

According to you, you can also be a shitposter without shitposting. For real?

>>639017
>I can't see how those threads can ruin somebodies experience when browsing /a/
It encourages other posters to believe that is the only way to create new threads. Over time it just reduces anyones ability to post past just typing "BEST GIRL" or "SHE A SHIT" because it cannot convey your opinion or intent fast enough.
>There aren't that many of them and if they bother you that much you can hide them.
More than zero is too many and hiding them does not deter others from posting new iterations of them. moot has also said that the ability to hide threads was for users to not have to look at stuff they dont care for, not an excuse for people to post whatever they want since others could just hide it.
>I personally visit /a/ to first of all have fun
I find discussion of anime and or manga to be fun. Image dumps arent fun, neither are people blogging about their lives - whether or not that includes their waifu is inconsequential - or people circlejerking their fetishes. We have many boards for that shit which is why I dont visit them.

>what's wrong
The types of shitty threads as per >>637942 go nowhere and usually only exist to dump images.
>suggestions on how you could fix it
Delete them from /a/ and send it to one of the many image dump boards we already have a la /c/, /cm/, /e/, /d/, /h/, /u/ and /y/.
>why?
/a/ is already fast enough as a board and the quality is at an all time low. Those other boards are also rather underpopulated, the only excuse people use to not utilise them is because nobody else uses them:
Make /a/ slower +
Make other boards faster
= People dont automatically default to /a/ for anything even tangibly anime related.

>>639017
>It refers to constant whining, tears everywhere and cries how bad everything is without actually explaining what's wrong and suggestions on how you could fix it.

No, QQ comes from a keyboard shortcut in World of Warcraft: Alt+QQ = Quits the game.

I don't even play WoW and I know that much.

As moot already mentioned in reply to stream threads (Paraphrased as foolz is down):

>For every off-topic 'VISIT MY STREAM GUISE!' thread, a potentially on-topic anime or manga discussion is bumped off the page.

That is exactly how those shitposting threads can ruin someone's experience browsing /a/. Those threads are NOT suited for /a/, as evidenced by another moot post screencapped here: >>638742 . You have plenty of places to post those topics yet you choose to do it in the board specifically dedicated to Anime and Manga.

You make baseless claims that '/a/ likes these threads' (Which in itself is retarded on an Anonymous imageboard) yet you overlook the fact that even today - moot posted a fringe 2D/Random thread on /a/ and was called a shitposter by the majority - and that's moot, who most will suck up to. How on earth can you say this is supported by 'the community'?

And yes, there are indeed plenty of those threads and they take up a significant amount of room on the catalog. I can currently count 55 of these threads. Fucking 55 of them, I'm so glad I use a filter, but even then it doesn't excuse the fact that 55 on-topic threads were bumped off the page for those.

>>639035
>moot posted a fringe 2D/Random thread on /a/ and was called a shitposter
moot's been given the title of the biggest shitposter since the creation of 4chan

>>639054
>moot's been given the title of the biggest shitposter since the creation of 4chan

No he hasn't, stop buying into '/b/ was never good!!' rhetoric. There wasn't even the word 'shitposter' around in circulation when 4chan started, I bet you still believe the screenshot in that image macro is real.

Why are you still trying to fix that board? It's too late, just leave it.

>still feeding this shitty bait thread.
Well first off please dont sau shit about /jp/, /jp/ has had a hatred for /a/ since what, 2 years after the split? Sexond of all the reason that moot screencap exist was because 06-08 was FILLED with ronery, waifu, abd other teritary shit. The only anime you were going to get was Gurrenfagann vs Lucky shit and CG spam. And maybe GAR vs MOE if you were lucky. Thrid of all your 55 thread count is fallcious reasoning. Just because 55 people made a thread doesnt represent board quality or that current /a/nons want to discuss. Thats like me going on the /vg/catalog and counting all the shit that doesn't belong and saying that the whole board is off-topic when its most likely a few retards lost. I'll admit yesterday was shit but updating the rec chart last night was good. Also 03-05 4chan wasnt good either just look at moots newspost back in 04.

>>639087
Excuse the shitty spelling and grammar, phone autocorrects

>>639087
>Also 03-05 4chan wasnt good either just look at moots newspost back in 04.

03-05 /a/ was certainly much better.

I'm not trying to say the whole of /a/ is bad, quite the opposite. There are people on /a/ that honestly believe their shitty 'wuld u a feets' threads belong anywhere other than /b/ and try to pass it off as '/a/ culture' and claim that the majority support it.

Regardless of the majority (if such a thing can really be proven on an Anonymous board), the rules are the rules and even if you hate the rules (Why did you agree to follow them when you first visited?) at least have consideration for the people that actively enjoy anime and manga and don't bump on-topic threads off the page to dump your copypasta about being Kuroneko's human footrest while other anons tell you how much they're jacking off to it.

Regardless of whether the thread belongs in /jp/, /e/, /b/, /s4s/, /u/ etc etc. they certainly do not belong in /a/.

It doesn't matter whether it is 55 'lost' anons or 1 very active shitposter, there are 55 threads occupying the spaces of perfectly good on-topic threads because too many people are afraid, hesitant or just too damn lazy to use the appropriate boards and there is no reason to pardon that behavior and prioritize it above genuine on-topic threads.

>>639066
>Moot is not a shitposter
>JUDGEMENT DAY sticky

Moot is an expert of anime related isn't he?

>>639159
>Moot is not a shitposter

I didn't say that.

>moot's been given the title of the biggest shitposter since the creation of 4chan
>No he hasn't

Can you even fucking read?

>>639122
>55 threads occupying the spaces of perfectly good on-topic threads
That's an exaggeration. Even if we factor in the threads OP claims are off-topic there's barely even 20.

>>639122
Then make an on topic thread? The only way new people adapt is by learning whats acceptable posting and whats not. I doubt something that was worth discussing would get passed over for 149 other threads

>>639188
People too busy bitching about on-topic threads they don't like they never make any threads they do. Always using the excuse of "but no one will participate!" then he calls other people cowards.

>>637674
Are you some sort of troll? This is my first visit to /q/ in quite some time. I don't think we can really speak for the reasons that people post on /a/. I personally like the current /a/. In fact I don't have any problems and to the extent that I haven't visited /q/ to complain. I hold that view that most everything is anime related on /a/.

>>636501
Isn't anime about meant for 8 year olds anime? Like peanut butter jelly sandwiches is food.

>>639180

No it is not, I counted.

>>639188
>>639198

It's not your place to dictate what is worth discussing based on the number of replies, 4chan does that automatically but it is not an excuse to shitpost, you are accelerating the process unnaturally by breaking the rules. /a/'s speed is not an excuse to shitpost.

>>639207

No, there is a vast amount of content which is absolutely not anime related.

>She sees your dick
>would you a feets?
>best girl
>you're waifu is a slut

etc.

These are not anime related, not in the context that is appropriate on /a/, they fit on other more appropriate boards and there is absolutely no excuse for choosing /a/ to dump them aside from anywhere else. No matter how much defense of 'board culture' '/a/ is fine you're a newfag' and other shitposting excuses I never hear one good reason as to why these threads should be posted on /a/ and their appropriate boards.

No matter how much you like current /a/, it is shitty and that is a fact. If you think it's good now, then all I can say is that it will get much better when we get tougher moderation.

>>639235
Yeah it is, I counted. Most threads in most given days are threads discussing an episode of a current anime, Some about current manga, Some about anime and manga that's not current, and the rest threads about anime as a medium.

>It's not your place to dictate what is worth discussing based on the number of replies
neither of the post you replied to even indicated this. They just told you that if you want threads you like you should make them yourself

>>637871
If you don't like the way the board is why are you here? A forum is dictated by it's community, I can understand minor changes to the board itself but it seems like you are asking for changes to the posters, not to the board itself.

The reason why I enjoy /a/ is because it is not normal in comparison to other forums. Incest is supported, traps are accepted and people argue about anime. Not really normal things to be discussing. And your unpopular "Naruto/Moeshit/Shounenshit/DEEPshit/Edgyshit/Grimdark/Manime/Shoujo" all get threads, please look make or search for one. You may have to foster the thread though, don't give up!

Even if the aforementioned rules are implemented I doubt they will be so effective. /jp/, /vr/ and /s4s/ are examples of this. Although /vg/ is a moderate success and /jp/ did remove touhou from /a/.

>>639268
>Yeah it is, I counted.

Well you obviously counted at a different time to me and a number of threads have been deleted.

>They just told you that if you want threads you like you should make them yourself

But the assumption is that 'If you want to post on-topic, you have to compete'. It shouldn't be like this at all, you shouldn't have to compete against threads that entirely break the rules.

>>639275
>If you don't like the way the board is why are you here?

Let me tell you something about /a/ as someone who has been here since day one: /a/ was created as a board for the discussion of Anime and Manga - nothing more. There was already /b/ for 'Anime/Random' (Even when the board title changed). In 2007-2008 when /b/'s userbase became unaccepting of anime, /jp/ was created to house the '2D Random' topics because /a/ was never meant for them.

To come in here and say that '/a/ isn't like _____' is wrong. /a/ is not defined by its community, /a/ is defined by the rules and moot and other mods have reenforced this numerous times on /q/ and elsewhere. /a/ is not Anime/Random, it is strictly for the discussion of Anime and Manga and no amount of 'board culture' 'muh community' etc. etc.

/a/ is not for traps or incest (That's /cm/, /d/, /y/, /u/ or /h/ material) and arguing about anime is more normal than agreeing about anime - this has been the case before the internet was even used to discuss anime.

You 'like' /a/ for something it isn't meant to be. You should leave.

>>She sees your dick
Has to be a female Anime character.
>>would you a feets?
Has to be of a Anime character.
>>best girl
Has to be a female Anime character.
>>you're waifu is a slut
Has to be a Anime character. People whose favorite characters, "waifu", who are not Anime related are off topic.

I think we have different opinions of what is Anime related.

>>639235
It is getting harder to tell if you're trolling or have a misunderstanding of what I'm talking about. You remind of Komeiji. Are you Komeiji?
Best girl threads are anime related, posting pictured of anime characters from anime is related to anime.
second of all, I never said threads that get replies are quality threads. I just said that if there were discussing it then its safe to say that people currently on /a/ want to talk about it. Thrid of all board quality is subjective and cannot be a fact. Pls learn the defintion of fact and opinion.
Fact: /a/ has a thread about VVV currently up.
opinion: Said thread is good. You yourself said the whole of /a/ wasnt bad.

>>639296
Every given day in every given moment (except when a raid is happening) there are little threads like these. There are most SnK threads this season than any other type of thread. It's mostly the most discussed current anime that gets the threads. With the second most being threads pertaining to anime in general.

I spend most of my days on /a/ and barely go to any waifu threads or fetish threads and yet there's always a thread for me to discuss be it anime or manga

The assumption is that you are competing with on-topic threads about anime or characters you don't like.

>>639299
>>639310
>>639314

I think YOU have a skewed idea of what is anime related. Appending an image of an anime character to a blog/imagedump//e/ thread does not suddenly make it 'anime related'. moot has agreed with this, as have other members of staff.

>She sees your dick

Not anime related, this is blogshit - people talking about their dick, what they masturbate to, dumping reaction images

>Would you a feets

Not anime related, this is blogshit - people talking about their foot fetish, what they masturbate to, dumping /e/ images.

>best girl

Not anime related, this is blogshit - people dumping /e/ shit, talking about what they masturbate to.

>You're waifu is a slut

Not anime related this is blogshit - doesn't revolve around the characters, only the attachment Anons have to them, turns into massive amounts of blogshit, trolling and of course /e/ dumps.

There are better ways to discuss favorite characters without shitposting. 'Who's your favorite character and why?' et al

Once again, we come back to the question that remains ever-unanswered by the shitposting brigade. When there are perfectly viable and suitable boards for your /e/ imagedumps, NSFW material, 'drawfag' threads, fetish stories and blogshit, why do you choose /a/?

The only assumptions I can come to is that you either dislike anime or you dislike others talking about it because you have absolutely zero respect for the people who make on-topic posts by trying to justify your own off-topic shit.

>>639296
Staying in one place longer than another does not give you authority over it's populace. That belongs to the moderators.

I can honesty understand where you are coming from, I have been here quite sometime myself and I do see that many topics on the fringe of being anime related have appeared. However I interpret the rules differently than you. I do not think we have passed the point where heavy moderation in order.

>You 'like' /a/ for something it isn't meant to be. You should leave.
I disagree. I like /a/ for what it is. I also liked the past /a/ as far back as 2008 for what I can say. /a/ is meant to discuss anime, and that is exactly what people do there at any given moment and that discussion has always outweighed shit posting, save for major events.

>>639320
Those types of threads I've already said "those are not as common as you think and there's barely 20 at most, I know I go to /a/ every given day"

"Best girl" threads ARE about the anime character, apparently anime threads aren't anime threads to you

The only assumptions I can come to is that you either dislike anime or you dislike others talking about it because you have absolutely zero respect for the people who make on-topic posts by calling them off-topic shit.

Surely fetish threads I said shouldn't be allowed but when you say that anime thread are not anime thread, I'm thinking you are a retard

How are threads about anime characters not anime related?

>>639299
>>>She sees your dick
>Has to be a female Anime character.
Just an image; no discussion generated. Could go to /c/ or /e/ depending.
>>>would you a feets?
>Has to be of a Anime character.
Fetish discussion. Pretty sure /e/ has plenty of feet threads for that. As well as brown, elf, healthy/chubby, milf/christmas cake etc etc.
>>>best girl
>Has to be a female Anime character.
I suppose, but its pretty low quality posting and generally only results in a clash between fans of X girl and Y girl. Most prominent of this is Rei/Asuka threads since if you start a thread of one it will either be bombarded by a flood of the other or another, different thread will be made for them.
Could just as easily go to /c/ if all you wish to do is circlejerk a character and post images of them.
>>>you're waifu is a slut
>Has to be a Anime character.
Not necessarily.
>People whose favorite characters, "waifu", who are not Anime related are off topic.
People blogging about their tastes/life is off topic altogether, just because they append the magic word "waifu" does not excuse this.
Those who start threads with purposefully antagonistic statements create shitty threads. You know, a worthless thread OP begets worthless replies.

>>639321
>as far back as 2008 for what I can say

2008 is not far back at all. That was the date /jp/ was created.

You are a shitposter apologist, you are saying it's okay for people to shitpost because it doesn't outweigh the discussion threads. It is absolutely not okay at all.

I'm not saying I have authority over the populace, but you are telling me /a/ is something it is not and has never been. This kind of 2D Random nonsense has never been allowed on /a/ and thanks to an increase in staff we are starting to see much of it removed, but we still need more. You may disagree, but the staff clearly does not.

The rules cannot be interpreted differently. We had this discussion many times over on /q/.

When people claim they 'interpret the rules differently' what they really mean is that they are making excuses. moot outwardly said that /e/, /h/ and /d/ imagedumps are not allowed on /a/ and belong on their respective board (Go look through the last Q&A) and yet shitposters still tried to make excuses and claim it was a 'gray area' when it was not.

Similarly, when stream and r/a/dio threads were outright said to be against the rules by moot, many shitposters tried to find creative misinterpretations of his post in order to circumvent the rules.

It's grasping at straws, and you still haven't answered my question as to why you feel these threads are more appropriate in /a/ as opposed to the board they actually belong in.

>>639320
I do believe this discussion is over if you are not even willing to consider the other parties opinions.

So in conclusion you want the definition of Anime related to be more restricted coupled with stricter moderation correct?

And I disagree believing that we have not past that point where we need said moderation and restriction.

I suggest to get your point across better you should make clear your opinions earlier to avoid this long thread of confusion. Your complaints should be second to your requests or ideas to clean up the board. The questions, and attacking in your posts draws others to be off topic.

>>639333
>those are not as common as you think and there's barely 20 at most, I know I go to /a/ every given day

I go to /a/ every single day too and that is a gross understatement. If I can find 55 just by looking at the catalog with my filter off then clearly you are doing something wrong.

If this thread is still around when the archives come back up I will personally link you to every single one of these types of threads that have occurred within a 24 hour period. I imagine the waifu threads alone will total more than 20 or at least come very close even before I add on the others.

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Here is the current front page of /a/, with 2Drandom/ X girl dump threads in red.

>>639320
Why are you assuming I make those threads? You're talking about something that doesn't happen. And I can assure you that people dont dump images as much as you think they do, looking at the front page currently. Hell, this is proven by the common /a/and only disscusses moe shows rhetoric. Nobody answers your question because your talking to ghosts, very few people on /a/ blog, dump, and post hentai 24/7, and they are outnumbered by the people who do discuss anime. 55/150 isnt flooding the board.
Also, your gonna to have to deal with the '/e/' shit if you wanna post your on topic threads. YOU are going to have to adapt, not others. Also, moot himself said certain threads should stay because its in the board's spirit, and a moderator a few months ago said /a/and doesnt need to change. Your preaching to the devil when you're actually preaching to the choir.

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in a nutshell

>>639365
I'll give you a point for the Atelier, Car, Hi /a/, and Fingering thread. The rest are about anime characters. My argument of imagedumps is that seeing that /a/ is an anime imageboard it isn't off-topic.

arguing that imagedumps only belong to /c/ is like arguing that Eva only belongs to /m/.

Even then the majority are anime related.

>>639349

I have already given my idea to clean up the board multiple times in this thread (Which you have quoted multiple times too) and I've also created a number of threads and posts on /q/ with alternative ideas on cleaning up the board.

You should do your research before you jump to conclusions about me.

>I do believe this discussion is over if you are not even willing to consider the other parties opinions.

I have already considered your opinions, you don't care about my consideration for your opinions, all you want is for me to agree. Those are two very different things. I have considered your opinions and concluded that they are worthless and you STILL haven't answered my question.

These threads have been created numerous times by numerous posters on /q/ - all complaining about /a/'s current shittiness and every 'board culture', 'muh community', 'this thread is anime related because it has an anime girl in the OP' argument has been broken down and dissected multiple times with no retort other than 'Y-You're a newfag! Leave /a/ alone!' or 'MUH CULTURE'.

Do your research, read the other threads like these in the archive, we've done this to death and the shitposters have never won.

>>639365
>Circling the raildex general and Homura thread and a thread with zero replies.

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>>639365
Compared with the current front page of /v/.
Yellow could go either way.
Also I forgot to point out the Samus thread which devolved into offtopic rather quickly

>>639368
>Also, your gonna to have to deal with the '/e/' shit if you wanna post your on topic threads. YOU are going to have to adapt, not others. Also, moot himself said certain threads should stay because its in the board's spirit, and a moderator a few months ago said /a/and doesnt need to change.

You're*

And no, moot said in the last Q&A that /e/ imagedumps are not allowed in /a/. If it belongs in /e/, it should be in /e/. Therefore it should be reported. That was what he said.

So no, I will not have to adapt, you will. You will have to adapt to the rules because those are the only things that keep /a/ in order and they will be enforced as more janitors and staff are recruited in the next drive.

>>639380
>Homura thread
You mean the imagedump thread?

>Thread with zero replies
That thread may have very well bumped an actual anime discussion thread off the page.
It's taking up space for something that belongs on /v/ or /vg/

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>>639377
The problem with all /q/ threads complaining about /a/ is that they automatically assume that anime threads are not anime threads.

Which is a stupid assumption, so the only way to make since of it is that the people are just hating threads they don't like on a board you never go to and have no real facts to them.

like pic related

>>639377
Holy shit are you retarded? You are giving your side of the arguement too much credit if you think even 10%some of /q/is threads are complaining about the same things you were. Also we've had board wide ids for what, 6 months? Searching by id isnt even allowed in foolz. None answers your question because real imagedumps do go to their boards, your mistaking valid threads for imagedumps when they arent.

>>639396
Another problem is when people assume that if someone is complaining about something to do with a board, that they MUST have made a rec thread/ got banned for shitposting/ etc.

You're making a blind assumption about the people that are bringing up complaints, and dismissing them by saying "My favorite board is great, you're just a shitposter"

>>63939
I doubt a livid anime discussion was on the 15th page. And whats the point of comparing /v/threads to /a/ ones? Surely you arent saying /v/threads is better than /a/and because its on topic.

>>639404
"You're just a shitposter" is the assumption you made. I state often that a thread about anime characters is anime related and you say "MUH CULTURE" like it apparently isn't. You say that most of /a/ is off-topic when every time I see the catalog it obviously is not.

all of /q/ does that. /a/ chalks it up to just the people of /q/ having a fundamental ignorance of /a/ and since many find themselves too good to even go to /a/ it's not entirely a false stereotype.

>>639396

Exactly, the shitposting 'culture' of /a/ is in complete denial about everything that doesn't fit their hivemind delusions of the 'tru /a/non'.

Someone is shitposting on /a/? They must be from a different board. Someone likes Naruto? They must be from Gaia. Someone is talking about Toonami? Must be from /v/.

It's just imaginary bogeyman shit, it's the delusion that their 'bros' would never shitpost or troll and therefore it has to be an outsider. The entire principle of their 'board culture' stands on this completely unproven notion that all shitposters who oppose 'board culture' are new or are from another board, or that people who complain on /q/ aren't tru /a/nons. And then when they get together on /q/ to defend 'board culture' they can't even agree on what is or isn't part of it, it's hilarious.

>>639400

Who says you have to use foolz to search foolz for IDs? If you've stuck around on /q/ long enough and kept up to date with things you'd know that for every 'I hate /a/ because they don't discuss my favorite anime' (Which are shit) there are a number of threads with very relevant complaints that the shitposters can never contest.

>>639422
>And then when they get together on /q/ to defend 'board culture' they can't even agree on what is or isn't part of it, it's hilarious.
Good thing you are never going to change this. I hope your sorry kind either just asimilates or moves on with their life. I am sorry /a/ isn't like in 2005, but things aren't static. Come back after a few years, maybe things will be like you want them then.

>>639396
>>639404
Shitty threads and temporary shitstorms aside, Im rather positive /a/ has had the most genuine, critical threads on /q/ and its pretty much as you say: any and all arguments instantly dismissed with "its our culture", "you're just new" or the like.

You really can discuss anything you want on /a/ so long as you either or multiple of the following:
- Post an anime image to match.
- Phrase it in the form of "Would you watch an anime about cute [nouns] doing cute things?" or "Why is there no [film/game/book/etc] anime yet?"
- Include the word "waifu", "imouto" or similar.

Theres a few other more specific examples like if you want to discuss music then just mention how Daft Punk did Interstella 5555 or headphone discussion can easily be had if you post a picture of Mio and ask what headphones are the best.

>>639417
/a/ likes to believe its better than /v/ for being "more on-topic" and/or having less shitposters but in all seriousness theyre about the same. At the very least /v/ came to terms with itself and that it had a problem thus giving the mods some leeway to help alleviate the problem(s).

>>639422
>there are a number of threads with very relevant complaints that the shitposters can never contest.

>this anime thread is off-topic
>but it's an anime thread
>and it's off-topic
>but it's an anime thread
>MUH CULTURE

pretty much everyone of these threads in a nutshell. They use false logic and ad hominem to the point the other side gives up and call it winning.
Sort of like when people are arguing of their favorite anime.

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>>639345
You know what? >I like /a/ for what it is. this remains true even for your vision of /a/. So continue your crusade and good luck to you. When the day comes that I have to change boards to discuss things you consider off topic on other board I will do that.

>>639377
>we've done this to death and the shitposters have never won.
I don't see anyone's victory here.
>you STILL haven't answered my question.
Okay giving more thought to your stance, yes those threads are off topic. Many are, I now agree with your criteria off topic threads.
>'this thread is anime related because it has an anime girl in the OP' argument has been broken down and dissected multiple times with no retort other than 'Y-You're a newfag! Leave /a/ alone!' or 'MUH CULTURE'.
This is a strawman. We have not reached any of those conclusions.
>I have already considered your opinions, you don't care about my consideration for your opinions, all you want is for me to agree. Those are two very different things. I have considered your opinions and concluded that they are worthless and you STILL haven't answered my question.
This is false, see above. I have also >considered your opinions and concluded that they are worthless. But have looked at them more than once in order order to find better perspective. And I have found it.

>>639438
Alright so this type of discussion is common here? If so, I think I'll come back when I have an actual complaint.

>>639428
>Good thing you are never going to change this.

So you are basically proud of having a 'culture' which can't even decide on what is or isn't culture?

Have you been following the moot vs #FreeSP shit?

Let me tell you how it panned out

>Stop the nazi moderation, Jewt! Shitposting is our board culture!
>No
>We're going to wage war against you! #FreeSP! Keep shitposting bros!
>No
>WHY ARE MY SHITPOSTING THREADS BEING BANNED FUCKING NAZI MODS THIS IS OUR CULTURE
>Why don't you all put your heads together and agree on what is '/sp/ culture'? I'm not saying I'll allow it, but I'd be interested to know.

And they still haven't managed to agree, let alone construct a valid argument as to why 'culture' should trump rules.

/a/ is no different. So called 'culture' is nothing more than a 'These are the off-topic things I would like to discuss with my epic /a/non bros without being banned' and still nobody can agree on it.

Let's not forget this old chestnut too:

>But offtopic shitposts are /a/ culture
>Who defines culture?
>The users of /a/
>But I'm a user of /a/ and I don't consider that to be my culture
>Yeah but you must be new then
>No I'm not I've been here longer than you
>Well the majority agree with me
>Can you prove that?
>...
>Y-YOU DON'T EVEN POST ON /a/ GET OUT YOU'LL NEVER TAKE OUR CULTURE FUCKIN /v/ERMIN NARUTARDS GB2GAIA

>>639422
No your assuming things about me. I can attack your arguing tactics.
Hurr durrr this anime related thread is an imagedump, mods pls hurdy up
>that thread is anime related and not an image dump
Fucking newfag cancer bet you werent here in 2003 stop shitting my board with your fucking culture. Us tru anons only want moderation up the ass and no secondary content. Take your shitty culture back to /b/. Hate all these fucking imagedumps.
also /q/is back in 2012(grasp! One year ago? No one could broswed /q/is back in 2012!) WAS filled with people complaining about moeshit and Naruto. Hence the whole Naruto screencaps by mods.

>>639446
My complaint is that you have no complaint. That this topic is fundamentally wrong and that multiple threads doesn't equal that the topic is correct (see: anime then anime now threads).

>>639451
problem with /q/ is that it's not just /a/nons on the board there's also /b/tards, /v/irgins, a/sp/ies and the like so you can never tell which is which.

and yet despite this you think /q/ is a good board to determine the culture of /a/.

>>639451
Holy shit please stop talking about other boards. You have nio idea what happened.
>moot someone is deleting secondary content like spelling bee threads and eurovision threads, please fix this
>moot sport threads have been condesed into circlejerking generals and sport vidya has been left up for days besides it not being sports and already have boards for them.
>moot /sp/ is stagnating because no new content is being allowed and the spirit of the board is being demolished.
>moot you your self allowed and encouraged and stickied sone /sp/ culture threads.
>moot people are getting very vocal and wondering what are you gonna do about it
Moot:...

>>639464
Worst problem is even though they say they are from /a/ they talk like they and the /a/ community are separate people. Rather than clearing up things with /a/ they want the mods and Moot to enforce their will on /a/ and wonder why /a/ is so anxious.

If they are not from /a/ then why are they trying to change it for the worse? if they are, then they are weasels plain and simple.

Instead of getting all upset about memes and ironic shitposting and trolling, why don't the mods step it up and try and keep on top of the pure shitposts and off topic threads?

Why don't the mods ever respond to shut people like OP up, either? They just leave these shitpiles to fester into the shitposting some people in this thread are so desperate to avoid.

Mods need to be more active for sure. Creating a board for people to stew and become more frustrated with the mod's inaction isn't fucking helping.

Any topic with an easy to answer question is ignored and any thread complaining about the moderation is closed. All people want is a little fucking feedback and instead they end up pissing in the wind and getting pissed on by the others following suit.

>>639464

It's just a case of making a point. /q/ has user IDs where people can't samefag as effectively as they could on an Anonymous board. The fact is whether it's /a/ or /sp/, even when people can be proportionately represented and appear to agree on the 'board culture' nonsense they can never agree on what actually IS board culture.

The reality is that there is no 'board culture'. 4chan is a transient place that is open to all and sundry. It always has been and it always will be. As much as /a/ in particular idealizes this notion of /a/ being some kind of small, underground community unwelcoming of others (Remind you of another, incredibly well-known board?), the reality is that it is comprised of crossboarders, people from other websites and communities from different backgrounds and of different ages.

If there truly is a 'board culture' on /a/ then the only thing it is united by is the discussion of anime and manga. It is the only thing we can all agree belongs on /a/ and is the most integral part of /a/.

A 'board culture' is merely wishful thinking and would only lead to homogenization of the community anyway. It is the pipe dream of the anonymoose-era /b/tard who is desperate to fool himself into the idea that a website that receives millions of unique posts per day could somehow be a secret club of like-minded individuals who fit his ideals of a 'true /b/tard'.

>>639499

My conclusion is that if you are honestly satisfied with the current state of /a/ you wouldn't project your ideals onto other posters and set some kind of gold-standard of /a/ user. The very fact a poster can sit there and desperately deny that someone who doesn't meet their standards mustn't be a 'true /a/non' is an unmistakable indication that said /a/non is in fact not satisfied with his or her board at all - quite the opposite.

>>639499
User IDs don't identify the board you are from or your intentions, nor does it work cross thread (so you can't samefag post, but you can samefag threads often which debunks the "several threads so it must be true" argument")

/a/ doesn't have a board culture but it does have a set of standards in place to protect it from shitposting as well as a standard of what counts as shitposting.

Threads about anime characters is not on the list

>>639506

>but you can samefag threads often which debunks the "several threads so it must be true" argument"

Actually you can't. ID's on /q/ are bound to your IP. You can make several threads from a number of devices and browsers and they will have the same ID as the one you are using in this thread, so long as your IP address has not changed.

>/a/ doesn't have a board culture but it does have a set of standards in place to protect it from shitposting as well as a standard of what counts as shitposting.

Every board does - it's called the rules. It's the nearest thing to 'board culture' that actually matters.

Spamming a thread you don't like or which breaks the rules does not put you in the right, it does not protect the board from shitposting - it just adds more spam to the board. This is not opinion, this is fact. If you spam in a thread, you are spamming. You are just as liable to be banned as the rule breaker in question (if there is one, in which case you will be banned regardless).

Your business as a user of /a/ is to make threads and posts about Anime or Manga. That's all. If you have to justify to others why your thread is related to Anime or Manga, then it probably isn't related enough to warrant a thread on /a/. There are numerous Japanese/Anime boards on 4chan that should be suitable for your thread and for everything else there is /b/ and /s4s/.

A thread you don't like is not your business. A thread against the rules should be reported. No culture required.

>>639518
>If you have to justify to others why your thread is related to Anime or Manga, then it probably isn't related enough to warrant a thread on /a/.

That's bad circular logic if I ever saw one.
>this isn't a cat
>but it is a cat
>if it is a cat then why did I say it's not a cat?
>I don't know why? maybe you're crazy but it is a cat
>I said it's not a cat, that proves it isn't a cat

The anime thread is anime I don't have to justify to you it's an objective fact.

Problem with the rules is that mods and janitors aren't always there. If not take care of shitposting ourselves at least point it out to the mods and janitors. Mods and janitors, like me, just sees an anime thread on an anime board, so naturally they are not going to delete it no matter how much you whine about it.

>>639320

Hey aren't you one of the assholes that was all for "cleaning up /mlp/"? Is this your new hobby, running around trying to ruin boards by spamming /q/?

>>639530

I have no interest in MLP and I certainly don't care about /mlp/. I did chip in with a comment about NSFW with regards to Yotsuba and Yotsuba B but it wasn't /mlp/ specific.

I read through every thread on the boards I visit.

>>639528
>at least point it out to the mods and janitors

That's what the report button is for. Yes staff are not always around but this is why we need more moderation.

As for 'circular logic' I don't think it's too difficult to follow. If you're making threads about 'fringe' Anime topics then it probably doesn't belong in /a/. It's pretty simple and there's really no excuse for posting shit on /a/ that doesn't belong on /a/.

We always have /q/ if you are confused as to where a thread should go.

>>639506
>User IDs don't identify the board you are from or your intentions
Neither would this thread if it were on /a/. Not if it were in any official capacity, anyway. I mean, what do you think people from /v/, /sp/ or wherever would do if they caught word that moot was doing a Q&A exclusively on and for /a/?
This is simply a shortcoming of anonymity; IDs or no.

Besides, moot and the mods are usually rather diligent in ousting serial shitposters or general ban evaders when they try to have their say in how a board should be run. Even if they were to take someones word here they could probably check a sort of IP/post history to find out if theyre just spewing shit or whatever.

Just as much as /q/ is biased towards people seeking change, hosting a meta thread on a home board is likely to be biased towards people against it. Speaking up or going against the grain of the hivemind is forbidden, after all, and it takes a hell of a lot less effort to just go with the flow of things to maintain the status quo.

There is no "best" way to go about this, unfortunately.

>>639551

Actually that's a lie, I do care about MLP and I used to watch it back in the 80s when I was young but I'm not really interested in the new Friendship is Magic stuff or bronies or whatnot.

>>639551
>As for 'circular logic' I don't think it's too difficult to follow. If you're making threads about 'fringe' Anime topics then it probably doesn't belong in /a/. It's pretty simple and there's really no excuse for posting shit on /a/ that doesn't belong on /a/.

So that means if I make threads about "/q/ threads about /a/ are wrong" then your argument is automatically incorrect right?

You call these "fringe" anime threads when they are not and use /q/'s userbase to prove it, no different from people who use "board culture" to win their arguments

It won't be fixed since the only dedicated mod left that shithole because the board got flooded with the biggest shitposters ever.

It is also the day I left because I knew it would just turn in to an insufferable shithole very quickly.
Oh look I was right.

I remember Waifu threads used to be a joke.
I remember we used to mock those people on 2chan threads.
Now /a/ is just stealing and copying everything from 2chan, including waifu faggotry and imagery.
"B-B-BUT IT IS A CHARACTER DISCUSSION THREAD!"
Yes. All that discussion of her flat chest and delicious skirt. Best discussion indeed.

/a/ isn't even worth saving.
As long as those fucks stay the fuck away from /c/ and /jp/, all is well.

>>639567
>/jp/ poster trying to stir shit up.
It's kinda weird seeing a /jp/ poster complain waifus considered there were by products of Ronery threads.

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Yes. /a/ is turning into a shithole pretty fast, and I find myself spending less and less time there amid the off-topic garbage, memes, shitposting, and normalfaggotry.
/a/ was marvelous February-August 2012 and took a nosedive in September for some reason. Now, it's beyond saving. /a/ is now /b/ lite with a little anime sprinkled on it.
>Hurr if u don like it den leave
>Durr dats r elitism
I used to say the same stupid. Rolling in purple shit covered in sprinkles is still just rolling in shit. There may not be a tolerance for certain types of shitposting, but the board has developed their own kind of shitposts. It's sad. Selective elitism has backfired, and now we have a different version of the shit we tried to avoid.

>>639567
> As long as those fucks stay the fuck away from /c/ and /jp/, all is well.
My feelers exactly. /a/ is now a containment board for /jp/, /c/ and other 2d boards.

It's undeniable, anything that looks even slightly japanese/kawaii/uguu is fine on /a/.

>>639581
I'm not even an active /jp/ poster, but it is still levels ahead of /a/ in terms of what the boards used to be like before the shitposters fled from some other site to here.

Ronery threads were mockery as well.
But you know the old saying, act stupid, attract stupid, etc.

>>639689

/jp/ is so full of shitposting moot changed the name to fun/jp/osting for a day. /a/ is full of shit but /jp/ exceeds it in the number of shitposts.

>>639564
>So that means if I make threads about "/q/ threads about /a/ are wrong" then your argument is automatically incorrect right?

How does that make sense?

I think you're just getting tangled up in semantics and your own circular logic.

I'm not sure if you're aware but the same logic can't be applied everywhere, the world is not a program and there are lots of logical fallacies everywhere.

You could find 'circular logic' in just about anything, if this is your last excuse for shitposting then I have to say you're really grasping at straws. I fail to see how posting off-topic threads on /a/ is the same as "/q/ threads about /a/ are wrong".

>>639567
>As long as those fucks stay the fuck away from /c/ and /jp/

Too bad they've already ruined /c/ over the past year. What a shame, even moreso than /a/.

>>639689
Really? /jp/ was 10x more off topic 2 years ago then it was now. Hell, sexual oreniaton threads were getting 100-200 posts back before /q/ was created. Claiming /jp/ pre-/q/ was anything like /jp/ now is fallcious at best. Even when the new rules were added people on /jp/ bitched and some left. I even remember tupla discussion back around 2010-2011.
On /a/, /e/ imagedumps and anime discussion arent mutually esclusive. The Homura thread linked here actually had an intresting discussion on Madoka being useless to the plot. Banning all imagedumps because they start as one and might not produce discussion is retarded at best.

Does /a/ still blame the flavor of the month board/website on everything?

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>>639871
/a/ will use any excuse necessary to shift blame from themselves to another. As long as /a/ itself isn't the problem, then everything's fine. /a/ is just like everyone's alcoholic relative; they can stop [shitposting] anytime, whenever they want, but they still choose not to.

>>639867
>Banning all imagedumps because they start as one and might not produce discussion is retarded at best.

No it isn't. If you want a discussion start a thread like a discussion.

A thread with people imagedumping gay 3D porn could end up as a discussion on the impact of Yaoi on male sexuality in the 21st century, better not delete those either.

>>639893
>>639567
as long as it's from Japan

>>639914
Nice strawman. That wasn't my point at all. My point was that imagedumps and anime discussion isn't exclusive. The thread were talking about didn't even start out as imagedump more like it was a normal discussion you would see elsewhere. Just because someone starts posting images doesn't mean they are incapable of forming an intelligent discussion. Are they better ways to do it? Yes. Is it wrong? No

>>639944

It's not a strawman at all. It's exactly the same concept.

Did it start off as an imagedump? Yes. There wasn't any impetus for discussion in the OP at all. Just "It's time", if you consider that to be intelligent discussion then your standard of posting must be incredibly low. These are not quality posts and break global rule 16 quite apart from being useless. Are you honestly trying to justify that for a tiny amount of discussion (which let's face it, is well trodden ground at this point)? Ridiculous.

>>636457 (OP)
Yes, it just needs to be separated into more boards like eg. /ma/

>>636492
there have been multiple threads about this but they get ignored. because
1. moot doesn't give a flying fuck
2. there aren't enough mods to actually enforce the rules
3. /a/'s mods are incompetent or love /a/'s culture
>>640020
it needs to be banned on /a/ in the same way MLP threads are banned on /co/
it's only tangentially /a/ related and most of the time has it's dedicated board

>>tfw no gf
>WAIFU'S!
/soc/
>I wanna smell Haruhi's farts
>would you an X?
/e/ or /h/ depending on the subject
>VN discussion
/jp/
>Zettai Ryouki thread
/c/
although I heard from /c/ that most people who crossboard from /a/ to /c/ ignore the rules and act like obnoxious dickbags.

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/a/ acting elite is like a crack whore riding in a limo and giving the princess wave from the sun roof while wearing pearls and white gloves.

>>642702
it's like trying to pick between getting kicked in the balls or punched in the balls.
Tolerate elitism and you're going to end up with idiots that treat /a/ like their personal clubhouse.
Or end up with weebs taking over /a/.
Although both can be solved by moderation and a rule that forbids rec threads (most other forums already have a rule against those for the same reason /a/ made it a community rule)

>>642716
well /a/'s elitism made discussing naruto impossible/taboo allowing it to build an image of being the bunghole of the internet.
Although I do admit that this is pretty much impossible nowadays with /a/'s/4chan's image in general.

>>642702

Giving source and recommendation threads has never been against the rules. If you don't want to spoonfeed someone, don't. Don't post, don't even open the thread - it's very simple.

I would rather have people who come to /a/ to discuss anime than people who come to /a/ to discuss butts and farts.

>>642703

This/10

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It's friday again.
Let us watch warmly the janitoring team ignoring blatant advertising:
>>>/a/87503636

Among other typical "muh 2D/Random culture" threads such as >>>/a/87491265

Reporting is a waste of time unless it's Naruto or some famous tripfag. Mods love to go on witchhunts against triplords and narutards, all while promoting random 2D blogging, porn dumps and blatant advertising.

>>643560
we could always revolt. Naruto got banned because it attracts shitposting.
Theoretically we could get culture shit banned by shitting up the the threads.
The downside is that it could backfire resulting in long/permabans and we will end up doing what we are trying to get rid off (shitposting)

>>643568

There's no point, we're not revolting against anything. Rules are in place, other people are breaking them and that's all there is to it.

Just keep reporting, when the new Janitor applications go through we will get more staff who will be able to delete this kind of thing.

The shitposting defenders are the ones that will rage when their threads start getting removed, let them be angry, let them revolt, let them get banned for it.

>>643577
I think the janitors would get removed from their position if they where to get rid of the "funposting"
What /a/ needs is new mods that don't adhere to /a/'s rampant culture.

>>643581

I don't think they'll get removed. I think more mods ban/remove this stuff than people think, it's just that 4chan is severely understaffed. ABIB normally deletes shitty threads and others will follow suit. He seems like a pretty good mod so far.

>>643586
janitors can't ban and without banns people would think they can get away with it.
Moot just needs to appoint more admins preferentially from outside the US to have a 24/7 staff.

/a/ doesn't have a problem. Fuck off.

>>643577
>Just keep reporting
Reporting why? Reporting is meaningless75% of the time. Reports for 'harmless' shitposting will get ignored. Only 300% obvous /b/-tier garbage gets deleted. The only way to get rid of the off-topic 'board culture' is to use /q/ as a second report button. How silly is that?

And don't forget that until a couple of weeks ago, reports for nsfw porn dumps were also consistently cleared. It's not really about the number of janitors available, it's about janitors enforcing 'board culture' instead of enforcing rules.

>>643590

I wonder if we can report these posts as shitposting or not. It's not even expressing an opinion at this point.

>>643589

With every influx of new Janitors I imagine new mods will follow else we will have a whole bunch of Janitors escalating reports and only a handful of moderators to deal with it.

>>643595
There's no problem on /a/. It's just you that has a problem.

>>643560
Fuck off Siztra. Go hang yourself.

>>643595
What I,m worried about is that the new jannies/mods end up as carbon copies of the current ones.
Or just don't give a flying fuck letting /a/ rot to new depts.

>>643581
>>643577
Tali and Nagi fuck off too.

>>643594

In any case, it's a far better option than breaking the rules. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind and all that. I very much doubt moot would react negatively against people who just want tougher enforcement of the rules but there is little point in antagonizing him with 'revolts' and other shit, it's just hypocritical.

Leave that stuff to the board culture apologists and don't stoop to their level, pretty soon even people who don't care about either side will identify their rhetoric with shitposting and they will just stick out like sore thumbs on 4chan.

Shitposters think they have a victory when they spam a thread or invade a board to prove their point, but the reality is that most people just see that behavior as childish and it just makes people antagonize them even more.

tl;dr - Rise above it, keep making threads, keep reporting, keep emailing moot. Just don't spam/flood/break the rules in the process.