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Hello. Just wondering why /tg/ doesn't have spoilers. It'd help out on storytiem threads and possibly the rampant quest threads.

And if you don't want to add spoilers to /tg/ I'd like to know why.

Pic is entirely unrelated.

Administrator Reply: >>1335
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>>930
a kobold riding a Corgi is pretty dang /tg/ related

i guess he could be holding meatbread or something
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I'll bump with /tg/ content.

Maybe some character art.
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>>1000
there's no need to bump, traffic is slow here.

nice get btw
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>>1000
sigh
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I support this, for /r9k/ to get them and not /tg/ is a travesty considering how much lore and other story details /tg/ works with.

Its on par with /lit/, as far as that sort of topic goes.
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I agree with the OP.
While a large portion of /tg/ might not use the spoilers, I think that there is enough people/threads that would benefit from them.
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>>1016
Sure, but it keeps things interesting at least.

Thank you.
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Couldn't resist posting this.
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>>1058
I disagree. I don't want to have to mouseover a bunch of text all the time to see things I'd otherwise be able to just see, and spoilers tend to encourage a certain kind of post along the lines of

>Statement
>[spoiler]Actually, the opposite[/spoiler]

that don't really add anything, and exist only because of spoilers. That's the main reason I see the [spoilersdontworkontg] tag used.

I don't see how spoiler tags are required. If you're reading a thread, you want the information in it. There is little that spoilers can add to any discussion where actual spoilers are not a problem. /tg/ doesn't really exist to discuss media where spoilers are an issue.

I'd like to see the reasons people want to be able to black out text on /tg/ until it's moused over. What does that actually *add* to a thread?
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>>1212
I guess in the event that someone wants to know what happened in a thread before, and another doesn't, the one that doesn't will have a chance to not be spoiled
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>>1212
Really? I usually see [tghasnospoilers] as off-topic things like replies to other posts or "nice get" comments.
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Done. If you guys make a cool custom spoiler image, I'll add it. See /a/'s and /co/'s for good examples. Must be 100x100 and PNG and look something like the default spoiler image, ex: http://static.4chan.org/image/spoiler-a.png
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It's up to the person whether or not they want to use the spoilers. They'd be nice to have is all I'm saying. Spoilers could be used for jokes, climactic (or anticlimactic) endings, and etc.
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>>1335
Thanks!

Too bad I'm terrible at art, or I'd start working on an image.
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>>1335
Use this one if it's big enough
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>>1410
Has to be a 100x100 PNG.

I'm bad at editing, but anything like this would look great. If the HERESY was replaced with SPOILER. Just a suggestion.
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>>1428
Here's a nifty png that should keep out heresy
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>>1428
If anyone has any soul they will do this.

I'm asking the thread on /tg/ that's talking about this too. Get back to you in a moment.
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Bumping for more ideas on what to make a spoiler image on.

A D20 might work.
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Anywhay we can get a .gif of a rotating D20 or something? Else, I vote for the Inquisitorial heresy seal.
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>>1528
It needs to be a png and probably too much of a pain.

I like the heresy idea maybe superimposed over the black/white of the normal spoiler tag
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>>1528
Moot's already said it has to be a 100x100 PNG image.

I'm still going through folders looking for ideas, but I like the 40k stamp.

Maybe something like this, but with the word SPOILER running through it?
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>>1547
>>1428
I'm on it. ETA: like ten minutes probably.
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Well, I played devil's advocate, but if it's coming, it may as well come in style.
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>>1569
We are talking about tg, the spoilertag HAS to be the Heresy stamp.
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>>1563
You are a wonderful person.

Have a camel
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>>1563
Oh, quick opinion poll: Do we want it to maintain the rotation of the original image or should I rotate it to have the rotation that other boards' spoiler tags have? Personally I prefer the original.

Also I'm not totally sure about how to place black and white, I'll fiddle with it but if people have ideas feel free to share them.
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Here you go. /tg/'s spoiler image.

Because dark elfs.
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The red SPOILER divide down the middle didn't play well with the red HERESY stamp, so I just did a black-white divide.

Other ideas.
>Cutebold with hands over ears
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>>1335

I'd recommend if anybody had any editing skills (since I'd just hastily crop something in MS Paint) doing something regarding primal clay or a morph creature from magic, but /tg/ really is more tabletop than magic based after all I guess.
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I love the idea of the HERESY stamp, even if I'm not a big 40k fan, but a lot of boards (COUGH/co/COUGH) have more than one spoiler image. How about one of Friend Computer?
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The fu-

We've been begging since '09 for spoilers for one reason or another, and have had moot quoted as saying it would never happen.

It took, what, half an hour to change that with one thread? What the balls?
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>>1569
This is cool. Alternatives:
'Best thread on /tg/ right now' Wizard, with spoilers round the edge.
Necronomicon with SPOILERS cover.
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>>1621
I'll work on that once I've managed to post this second heresy stamp. Flood detections KEEPS eating this post.
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>>1563
Best of luck. In case you're stuck on it at all, here's a basic idea for what it should look like imo.
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Since this is apparently a flood text let me try again

There is a thread on tg discussing this currently, before we get any set ideas about what it should be it should be discussed there since more fa/tg/uys are there than here right now
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Moot just so you fucking know, I put effort into this.

Shit be latin for "SPOILERS WITHIN"

Shit'll be hilarious as a placeholder until they get off their asses and make a real one.
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It seems like it works best just looking like this. I know it doesn't incorporate black, but still I think this is best.

>>1636
I know why you did it since I had the same problem, but that bright red doesn't look good.

>>1639
I'll try but it will be hard.
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No, no, no guys, please do not make the spoiler image 40k related. That's going to make even more people hate the Warhammer fans. It must be generic /tg/. No quests, no Warhammer, no MtG, no RPGs. It has to represent it all.
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>>1656
>>1591
>Must be ... look something like the default spoiler image
This sort of thing will never be accepted. And it shouldn't, a spoiler image needs to be easily recognizable as such at a glance.

>>1640
I think flood detection is set to a longer timespan here.
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>>1659
Thanks for giving it a shot. You might have to remake everything but the aquila and the inquisitorial symbol, since the text will probably have to be white.
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>>1212
>What does that actually *add* to a thread?
Porn and punchlines. Or at least that's what /co/ does with them.

>>1659
I still think it'd look better on black.
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>>1636
Keeping in line with the global black/white/red spoiler theme, this is the most appropriate.

>>1335
Thanks, been waiting for this forever on /tg/.
Now i'm just curious about the status of quest threads on /tg/ but I suppose thats best left for another OP.

There was actually rumor /q/ was going to be for /q/uest threads.
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>>1636
>>1639
>>1659

This maybe? I could switch up the font or something.
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I remember we made this symbol ages ago. Think it'd be nice on a spoiler?
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>>1673
Are you dense? It's an homage to what brought about /tg/ in the first place.
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>>1623
This kind of stuff is exactly why Moot made this board. To get shit done.

Now hush before he changes his mind.

Thanks, Moot!


Oh, and a question while your attention's here; oh owner of 4chan. What's the post character limit on /tg/? I can't seem to find it listed anywhere.
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>>1673
Eh, this is a reasonable point.
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>>1673

Why not have multiple spoiler images, like other boards do?

>>1677

I don't get the "must look something like the default," but I think that's because I spend most of my time on /v/ and the spoiler image there looks nothing like the default.
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>>1692
That's a good one! I'd mail moot at least a liter of soup if he'd put that up.
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>>1673
No one thing can represent all. Heresy has represented heretical material since the beginning of the board, to the extent that I don't even know what to call things that should be spoiled besides "heretical material".

>>1692
>changing the text
Nope.
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Are you posting materials related to communism, Citizen?

The Computer doesn't want to have to kill you, unless you're a communist. Then The Computer does want to kill you.
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>>1693

That is an avatar thing, does not invoke spoilers at all
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>>1720
>>1692
Both of these are goooooooood.

Anyone want to try the Necronomicon?
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Moot, what's the font used to say "SPOILER" in the default?

>>1713
/v/ is an exception, because its images are fucking perfect. The only thing we have that's similarly perfect is the heresy stamp.
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>>1720
It needs red. I'd put a red ring behind Friend Computer's eye to give him a red iris, and do the spoiler text as white on a red bar as per standard.
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>>1720

SPOILERS, CITIZEN
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>>1335
I am confus good sir moot. You once said this would never happen, because we'd just use it to post porn on a worksafe board.
Did something happen to change your mind?
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Another option
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>>1705

I happen to know this one since I have 4chanX and it lets you know when you're getting close to the line.

Current cutoff, as of this post is 1500 characters on /tg/.
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My shot at it, for consideration.

Might be better if the logo gets vectored first.
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>>1717

>>changing the text
>Nope.

Why?
It does the job quickly and is a subtle nod to the origins of the board.
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OP here.

You guys made my night.
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>>1639
Yeah, fuck if I can figure out how to do that. It requires color inversion I think, to retain the texturing. It's a decent idea but I'm not sure it will turn out well even if I could figure it out, which looks unlikely.
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Back of a Magic card would work, right? Maybe blended with the white-black background to match other spoilers, or darkened/lightened to make it more recognizable?
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Holy freaking moly. I've been asking for this for years!

Thanks Moot!

This will be incredibly useful for a LOT of things. Quests, discussion of new media (when turning it into /tg/ relevant content) hiding "GM" information in discussions of systems where that's relevant, and so on.

Thanks a lot!
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Since we're already fucking around with spoilers, is it possible to fix the thing where post/board links are visible through them?
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>>1779

Possibly. Personally I don't think it works well like that though, I still think using a transform or morph type of thing would work better but who knows.
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>>1762
I like the original unmodified better, to be honest. Or the white background version in >>1659
The only advantage to this one is if moot is a faggot and thinks the original is too dissimilar from the default spoiler images. Which I suppose is possible, since he's not a fa/tg/uy.
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Really I think a D20 or a D6 with the spoiler tag wrapped around would be best.

It is a neutral image and then we don't get anyone complaining that it isn't their fandom
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>>1730
The Necronomicon is hard to capture in a 100x100 image.
That's a very small thing to work with.

There's only one recogniseable necronomicon, and that's the evil dead one. There aren't any decent images of that at the right resolution *with good detail* to work with, and thus it'd be a pain to get it done well. I have a great dislike of badly-done images for official purposes.
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>>1815
Make it, then. I won't object to seeing a d6 in the rotation. However d20 is a "fandom", it's pretty unique to D&D.
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Guys

Guys, I've got it

Pic related
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>>1815
>fandom
Are you from /co/ or something? No offense, but if you're not primarily from /tg/ I don't think you should be one of the people deciding this.
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>>1828
The logic for having a die be a spoiler image is that you won't know what you get until you open the image.

So, a die with all sides being the basic red/black/white SPOILER image.
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>>1835

>DISCLAIMER: That was in no way meant to be a serious suggestion
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>>1762

I like that for how similar to the spoiler default it is, but the image itself doesn't look that great, and I really don't know how well the text would hold up even after fixing it, just due to all the colors, its kind of hard for the eye to adjust for.

>>1835

Not now damn it!
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Use one of the =][= images.
>>1815
What about diceless games, etc?
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>>1762
You've lost quality through how you've shrunk the stamp, but I like what you've done with colours.

Another one for consideration: the yellow sign.

Not pleased with how it looks, though.
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>>1862
See and consider:
>>1659
>>1692
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>>1815
Yeah, but a core part of /tg/'s culture is pretty much Warhammer 40k.
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>>1840
I don't go to /co/ at all, just because I use a word associated with them doesn't mean I either shouldn't be considered as seriously or listened to at all.

It is simply easier to write fandom than list the various things we call what we waste out time and money on or call it by any of the names you might consider the proper term because I don't have that information.
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>>1835
This. I mean, someone will hate skub, someone will love skub, but everyone will be getting skub.
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>>1925

DnD is far more important
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>>1692
This looks really cool in my opinion. Problem is that we will never all agree on one spoiler image, so this point is quite literally m00t
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Please, enough of the attempts to troll on here. If you genuinely think one part of /tg/ is more worthy or important than another, take it to /tg/.

Anyway, I redid >>1762 with better quality, I hope.
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>>1930
My point wasn't that it's associated with /co/; it's not in particular. What I was getting at is that it's not a word used on /tg/, thus indicating that you're not a /tg/ regular. I have nothing against you personally and that's not the point, but I do think that this sort of thing should be mostly brained out by people who are a bit more in tune with the board culture, inasmuch as that's a thing which exists and can exist.

>>1976
Again bringing up the "board culture", I'd say that Warhammer is a larger part of /tg/'s heritage and nature.

Also, D&D doesn't have something that fundamentally represents heresy the way an =][= stamp does.
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My fellow fa/tg/ys, how is this?
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>>1852

Too bad I took it as one.
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>>2020

Not bad, kind of needs a background.
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>>2002
Fuckdamn Shitcunts. I forgot to attach the image. Again.

It's not the standard spoiler orientation, but
>rotating rasterized text tends to fuck up the detail and artifact everywhere, especially at lower resolutions and I cannot be fucked vectoring that thing.

Have the image. This, of all the ones *I* have submitted, is the one I'm most pleased with. Once again, props to >>1762 for coming up with doing it this way, just redoing it for image quality.
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>>2020
Could you resize that to 100x100 so we can get a better idea of what it would look like?
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>>2009
Well I fail to see how using a word not part of the lard culture instantly means I do not understand or am a part of it.

I have been on tg since shortly after it was made and I have kept up with everything from the best to the worst.

Your judging someone based on their use of a single word puts you further out than me given how much of tg's culture was based around having fun and accepting people for our various preferences and differences
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>>2044
>Have the image
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>>2077
>the lard culture
Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew. I'm not going near that petri dish.
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>>2044
Oh for fuck's sake. I can't believe I did that. I'm some kind of double retard for continually forgetting to re-add images after they're eaten by flood detection.

The long post cooldown also makes it a pain to correct it when I fuck up like this.
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>>1989
No it's not. They can rotate; other boards do it.

>>2020
To be honest, I don't really care for it. Too much white, and the die design just looks like a mess of different colors.

>>2021
I was thinking just use the normal spoiler but replace the word "spoiler" with "skub".

>>2044
>>2002
You feeling okay bro?
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>>2046

There we go.

>>2038

Like how?
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>>2098
Still uglier than the original image, but better than the last attempt. I doubt we're gonna get much better using the tricolor format, though.
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>>2107

I just mean that without a background it's too, white and it makes the white on the dice pop more than the others.
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>>2098
alt version, HERESY more easily readable and white as per original SPOILER image.
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HOW ABOUT A FUCKING DORF STRIKING THE EARTH AND FINDING A BIG OL' "SPOILER"?! THAT'S PRETTY FUCKEN NEUTRAL //tg/!
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Could someone post the other spoilers that are used on the other boards? so we know what sort of confines we are working within.
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>>2124

What about removing the red stripe and just making the Heresy red?
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I mucked around with a d20 to make it 100x100 and red. It's got a few artifacts but it works.

Can some people try messing around with black and white backgrounds and SPOILER tags on it?
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>>2098
Looking good.
Another iteration up for critique
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Any suggestions? Maybe bright red/white border, and color work?
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>>2159

Nah, to copy written.
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>>2107
This I like.
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>>2176
True true. Ah well, the heresy ones look cooler anyways at 100x100.
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>>2133
I have done it again.

Christ, I'm really not good at this "image" thing today.

Image attached this time, hopefully.

Also, >>2159 is not immediately recogniseable as a spoiler image. Not red/black/white, the word "spoiler" is too small/unnoticeable in the rest of it.
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>>2151
Does it HAVE to be coloured? I kinda prefer the original, but I guess if it has to be, I'm cool with this.
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>>2151
I don't like it. The slash disrupts the visibility of the stamp's extant elements. It's still compositionally better than the die, but I don't think it's better than other variants that have already been posted.

>>2159
It's a perfect implementation of the concept within the restrictions placed upon you; there's no fault here that stems from you. But the squishedness is kind of unpleasant, and if moot feels like being a butt about the "must be like existing spoiler images" thing, then that would kill it too.
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>>2176
No such thing. You meant to say copyrighted.

Personally I am in favour of 1dspoilers, it is suitably genre-neutral even though Wallhammer is a big percentage of tg threads.
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>>2196

Probably the best looking version so far.
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>>2196

Loving this

>>2125

Ah, I see what you mean.

Don't want to change the spoiler base colours so I added a transparency effect on the BG.
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>>2196
I still prefer the version here >>1659
But if moot insists on a colored version, that one is great and it's what we should go with.
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>>2196
This looks really good.
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>>2196
I love it. This has my vote.

If we could make "heresy" into "spoilers" without breaking it, that would the best ever.
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>>2215
>suitably genre-neutral
>used in few systems and prominent in only one
You got funny ideas in your head.
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>>2150
Here's all i'm doing for the die, someone else can take over from my laziness if they want.
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>>2107
>>2196
My two favorites.
Though I kind of like the 1dspoilers, the 40k stamp looks awesome. Hard to pick a winner.
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>>2196
I might be being dumb here, but... this does not say 'SPOILERS'
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>>2268
You do know that we can have more than one image right?
/co/ and /v/ do, or did, haven't ventured there for over a year now I thnk.
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>mfw /tg/ has spoilers now
don't fag it up people. Give us something 40k related, give us a d20, something call of cthulhu related.
We could go for something fantasy, and sci fi related too. I think a large variety of spoiler images would be neato.
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>>2240

Well I think we leave it up to moot as to which one to use, cause I think the only reason for coloration was to make it look more spoiler-tag-y.
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>>2271
It says "HERESY" which is the same thing but a bit less dumb. Lots of boards have spoiler images which don't say "SPOILERS" on them, that's not a requirement.
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>>1720
>>2151

I'm a fan of these two myself.
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Why DOES /tg/ have spoilers?

REMOVE THEM. WE DO NOT NEED THEM.

>>1335
Damn it moot it is a tiny, loud minority that wants spoilers on /tg/. Most people do not. There is nothing to SPOIL on /tg/, just ways to troll.
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>>2253
I shall do what I can.

No idea what the font is, so I went for Something With Serifs.
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>>2315
>Well I think we leave it up to moot as to which one to use
Well yeah, we couldn't do otherwise if we wanted to. But we can still weigh in here so he can consider our opinions.
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>>2353
Copied this idea with the spoiler stamp i've been using posted above.
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>>2309
see


>>2234
>>2196
>>2159
>>2151
>>2107
>>2098
You were too late.
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Spoiler images are the worst thing to happen to /tg/ in forever.

Porn dumps. Porn dumps, all over.
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>>2349
You are the first person to express unhappiness with this, and several have said they were pleased. It is not a minority.

Also, there's tons of shit to spoil on /tg/. Just because the things on /tg/ that you're interested in don't have shared narrative elements doesn't mean that's the case for everything.
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>>2353
>>2365
Most impressive. I definitely prefer it saying 'spoilers' since there's already a 'heresy' stamp.
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While we're here: Hey moot, is it possible to make spoilered images inline-expand, instead of opening in new tabs, or is that impossible due to how the code currently works?
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>>2353
This works.

This should be our spoiler tag.
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>>2385
That's been happening anyway, inasmuch as it ever will. Now, if you really don't care to see art with a bare tit in it, you won't have to.
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Trying again with a attention-getting border. Still not perfect, but it's easier to tell that it's a spoiler.
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>>2385
So? Mods / janitors can remove those just like any other porn dump, but for us there's an added bonus of not having to see the dump since it has been spoilered.
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>>2416
The heresy stamp can't cover up heretical images, though. I don't prefer that at all.
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>>2396
>You are the first person to express unhappiness with this
The first person to express unhappiness about a brand new event. Big whoop.
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>>2447
Please stop
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>>2396
This. There's all kinds of potential for spoiling when you're discussing RPGs.
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This is the closest thing to a good spoiler tag we have some I'm posting it again, hopefully to catch Moot's eye.
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>>2353
This. To those saying Warhammer is too 'culture specific' to be /tg/'s spoiler image, get over it, Warhammer is there, and if you browse /tg/ you've probably caught yourself saying heresy more than the average joe.
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>>2510
I like it. It just looks awesome, and it is a jib at board culture.
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>>2490
Like what? Spoiling your party composition? ("Tee hee oh boy I bet there's gonna be a paladin AHH THERE IS THIS IS SO FUNNY.") Spoiling an item's statistics? A rule? Things are things that do not spoil anything and there is no reason to put them in spoilers. The only thing to spoil would be fluff and lore about the various settings we have, and even that isn't necessary.

I bet that if the first thread about this to pop up on /q/ asked moot to NOT add spoilers to /tg/, he wouldn't! Is the only reason this is happening because someone was quicker than another?
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So, so far it looks like these two
>>2510
>>2234
are pretty much agreed upon and good to go. I personally don't care for the die, but I'm clearly a very small minority there, so whatever. And nobody dislikes the heresy except that one faggot who's an even smaller minority.

So, those two are done. What else should we have and represent with its own spoiler image?
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>>2584
Dude, if you don't like spoilers, then just don't use them, it's that simple. There's really no downside to this, why are you complaining?
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>>2510
Agreeing we should use this. Saying Warhammer is too specific is like saying a D20 is too specific, they both only apply to certain subgenres of Traditional Games. Hell, even a D6 isn't used in many games (most matches of Magic, many board games, etc).

As far as being aesthetically pleasing, this is our best bet.
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>>2586
Old Man Harrison.
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>>2349
That used to be the case, but a lot of us have been arguing for it for a long time, and it's no longer true.

The majority now definitely support spoilers, and I'm glad we finally have them.

They're needed for a lot of things, as above posters have pointed out.
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>>2385
>refresh front page three times
>no porn dump threads
and you got me all worked up too. /tg/ usually has great porn dumps. Now I'm going to have to settle for second class /d/.
Thanks, asshole.
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>>2634
Doesn't /co/ have multiple spoiler pics?

We should get multiple ones too. We have a lot of different topics for discussion. So why not at least a few spoiler images to go with it?
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>>2647
Yeah, I've actually had things spoiled for me on /tg/, when people tried to use spoiler tags without realizing there were none.
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>>2586
/g/ doesn't have spoilers, and there's often a techloligy thread abound, so why not make something like a black/white/red AMD logo? (spelled MAD, of course)
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>>2603
>Dude, if you don't like spoilers, then just don't use them, it's that simple. There's really no downside to this, why are you complaining?
Wow, you're dumb. /tg/ will now be riddled with blacked out text that serves no reason but to troll, and spoiler images that are probably just more brown elf porn. You don't think that's a downside? One of /tg/'s best traits was that it didn't have spoilers. It was set apart from the crappier boards that way.

Seriously it's like you're saying "if you don't like stealing, just don't do it. Let other people do it if they want to." There IS a downside and it's not like I can avoid being affected while browsing /tg/ simply because I choose to not use spoilers.
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What are /a/ and /co/'s spoiler images? Just curious.
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>>2647
They are not NEEDED at all, and I sincerely doubt either of us has evidence on what the majority supports. What I know of people wanting spoilers on /tg/ is people making long, tongue-in-cheek bracketed jokes while not actually SPOILING anything. It's just like the other boards -- it's used for cheap trolling.
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Maybe we could go with the d20 one and put actual numbers on it. Then we do it for every number from 1-20. Then whenever we use a spoiler, we're rolling a d20.
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>>2679
It sucks when that happens, and because of our broad range of topics, we have that happen a lot.

I've been with /tg/ since it was made, and I've been hoping for spoiler tags every time it's come up as an issue to ask moot about.

And every time, I'm asleep and he goes, "does /tg/ need or want this?" And somebody went "Eeeeeigh I guess not", and we don't get to ask for another two years.

It's about damn time.
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>>2702
Then if you don't like it, go somewhere else. Nobody's forcing you to go to /tg/.
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>>2722
We can tell what the majority supports. There are IDs in this thread.
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>>2688
Spoiler are not there for dumping porn on work safe boards, moot himself previously spoke out against that.
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>>2702
>/tg/ will now be riddled with blacked out text that serves no reason but to troll
Report them.
>and spoiler images that are probably just more brown elf porn.
Extra heretical, report them twice.
It IS against the rules, if iron-fist mod-chan is still around, he will most certainly exterminate.
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>>2740
Tossing my hat into the ring.

I don't really like the idea of /tg/ having spoilers, but I want to believe that we can be well-behaved when using them.

Stating it out clearly, I don't like that /tg/ now has spoilers.
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FUCK THIS GODDAMN IT MOOT,
Man, why the fuck do you retarded fucking /v/irgins have to ruin a fucking board for everyone else?
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>>2750
There's a mod, but I think it must be a different one since current mod rules with a silken glove, and bans only shitposters and rulebreakers instead of just wantonly destroying anything he doesn't like.
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>>2740
>We can tell what the majority supports. There are IDs in this thread.
Um...it's going to be a very, very skewed and ineffective poll if you do it this way. Kinda like gathering people's general opinions about an RPG by only asking for /tg/'s opinion!
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>>2742
Fair enough. Now that I think about it, that's about the only use they'd get anyways. Are there any other worksafe boards that need spoilers? I think most of the media-oriented boards already have them.
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>>2803
Well, obviously. Just about everyone who doesn't like the spoilers will be here, while most people who do will be on /'tg/ celebrating. Considering there's still a majority in favor though, I think it's pretty damn safe to say that /tg/ as a whole is happy to get the spoilers.
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>>2805
We do need them for legit reasons. People have already pointed out various ones.

A small minority doesn't like that it could possibly be used for trolling.

The benefits of improving media and RPG discussion are well worth it, IMO.
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>>2822
Why? So that you can shitpost but make people have to deal with the hassle of highlighting it instead of simply allowing them to read your shitposting like normal human beings?
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>>2853
It's like you want to read shitposts.
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>>2853
How about 'so you can discuss twists in RPGs and other media without spoiling them'?
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>>2822
>I think it's pretty damn safe to say that /tg/ as a whole is happy to get the spoilers.
And I think it's pretty damn safe to say that /tg/ as a whole is unhappy to get the spoilers.

See? We can both do this baseless assumption bullshit.

There is so very little benefit to /tg/ getting spoilers, in return for all the trolling and shitposting that's going to occur now. Plus, instead of seeing many quest threads that I need to scroll past, I now get to not be able to read parts of the front page and see an ugly little red image instead of certain OPs.
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>>2871
If you've spoiled it, I can't exactly tell whether you're shitposting or not without having to take otherwise-unnecessary actions.

>>2877
Considering that most people, when they see a Dark Knight Rises or GoT thread that they don't want spoiled, hide the thread and move on, that's a shit excuse.
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>>2853
Firstly, I do not shitpost on /tg/. I rarely shitpost at all. Secondly, you shouldn't have to highlight the spoiler; it should show you its contents on mouseover.

But if a thread is shit, leave it. Go to a thread which isn't shit. Your apparently persistent attraction to shit is not the concern of people who want to be able to discuss things without accidentally cursing the our brethren with unwelcome enlightenment.
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>>2900
>opining about what's good or bad for /tg/
>not even using the catalog
Urgh.
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>>2877
How about "discussions like those are less frequent on /tg/ than quest threads?" There is so very little to actually spoil in /tg/ material. It does not benefit the board. For example, when a new Magic: The Gathering set comes out, and we're all giddy about the new cards and whatnot, there will be threads where the OP is an image of the card and some vague text.

Now, it'll be a spoiler image and the same vague text. Only now I don't know if what I'm clicking is a card or tentacle porn or a crappy MS paint drawing or what. How is that a benefit?
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>>2907
>Considering that most people, when they see a Dark Knight Rises or GoT thread that they don't want spoiled, hide the thread and move on, that's a shit excuse
Yes, in a world where each thread was strictly limited to one single film or book series, that would make sense. But guess what world we're in?
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>>2900
You are 99% of the argument against spoilers in here. You really can't argue that a majority of posters on /tg/ are against spoilers when /tg/ is partying right now (seriously, it's easy to see) and you are just about the only person here arguing against it.

His argument wasn't baseless assumption. You disagree with the majority opinion, but don't pretend you are even plausibly the majority.

Really, most of your arguments come down to, "This is change and I don't like it!"

There are legit reasons for spoilers. Whether or not you like those reasons seems rather irrelevant at this point.
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>>2911
So, because one Anon is shitposting, an entire thread is ruined? That's wrong and we both know it.
However, when every other post is, "[spoiler]comment[/spoiler] rest of comment", it means I'm having to mouseover posts that I normally could read. There is no benefit to spoilers. You'll see.
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>>2943
Look at /v/. Look at /a/. Look at /tv/ and /lit/.
Boards with spoilers are undeniably some of the worst boards on 4chan.
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>>2959
>correlation
>implying
>causation
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>>2933
No one forces you to look at spoilered pics or read spoilered text.

Other people see this as beneficial, for good reasons.

But if you DON'T, no one is forcing you to read that text or open those images.

So have the basic modicum of self control not to do it.
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>>2914
>caring about /tg/
>by not visiting /tg/
Yeah, take your idiocy elsewhere. The catalog and quests are another issue to worry about.
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>>2970
But the correlation exists. And spoilers encourage shitposting.
e.g., spoilers bring down boards.
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>>2959
Well, since this is /tg/ that gets shit done, why don't we become the anomaly, and use spoilers as they were intended? Let's see if we can row row fight our own tendencies.
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>>2989
Pirates and global warming are also correlated, champ.
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>>2984
You don't think visiting /tg/ using the catalog is visiting /tg/?
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>>2943
>You really can't argue that a majority of posters on /tg/ are against spoilers when /tg/ is partying right now
In the US, it's very early in the morning, and the spoiler development is less than THREE HOURS OLD.

You cannot make assumptions at this point about how many people like it or not, and your intimidation tactic of "you're the only one against this, so shut up" will not work.
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>>2984
Are you seriously arguing against the catalog? Look, I've been polite up until now, but that's incredibly fucking retarded.

You are a horrible poster. I hope absolutely nothing you ever suggest gets incorporated into /tg/.
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>>2989
I say "correlation does not imply causation".
You say "but look, there's correlation!"

Wow. OK, I think you've disqualified yourself here.
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>>2983
>Don't read threads you might like!
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I know you guys are having fun with your off-topic shitstorm, but I made a thing. What do you guys think?
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>>3038
I think YES.
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>>3038
Apologies, we do this if there's too many of us in one place. Looks good.
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>>3009
The catalog and a discussion on spoilers do not go together. That other guy was trying to shit up this thread with catalog discussion and I won't have that. This thread is about spoilers.
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>>3038

Looks good, a definite improvement.
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>>3038
As much as I hate spoilers, I'm voting no. I thing that Ordo Hereticus seal was the best.
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>>3038
>I know you guys are having fun with your off-topic shitstorm

It's like I'm really on /tg/!

>I made a thing. What do you guys think?
It's great, and makes me happy. Happiness is mandatory.
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>>3047
I second that motion.
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>>3038
Looks good. I like it.

>>3007

>In the US, it's very early in the morning, and the spoiler development is less than THREE HOURS OLD.

>You cannot make assumptions at this point about how many people like it or not, and your intimidation tactic of "you're the only one against this, so shut up" will not work.

Your argument was that you represent the majority. Currently, you do not. Everyone pointed out that currently, you do not. You got very defensive very fast.

Feel free to wast your entire tomorrow trying to rally /tg/ to your lost cause. I hope you feel horrible anguish as you realize just how impotent you are, and that the only thing you succeed at is shitposting in everyone elses threads to tell them how spoilers are bad.

Which would be the best, because that's exactly what you think spoilers do.

The hypocracy will make me giggle like a schoolgirl.
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>>3038
No reason we can't have more good images, you've improved this one. Thanks.
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>>3073
And still you say "quit posting, because you disagree with me." Don't you hear how pretentious you sound? You say the majority only matters for certain times of the day, and you sound retarded.
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>>3064
I (the creator of that Friend Computer one) do too, but we can have more than one. Right now it looks like we have that, the d20, and, if you guys like it, this Friend Computer one.

>>3088
Fuck, that's not quite perfect either. I wish I could move the text half a pixel.
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>>3099
I think it's more like "quit posting because I think you're wrong, almost everyone here thinks you're wrong and you're not contributing anything to the discussion we're having. Please go."
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I also think it's fucking stupid. But it's already been done, which means it's never going to be UNdone, so whatever. OP is still a shitheel for singlehandedly bringing back the "hey, let's dump porn because porn" threads. Regular moderation will never get rid of them, and bringing the 2010 mod back would be an even bigger disaster.
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>>3131
>you're not contributing anything to the discussion we're having
>people who disagree with me are not adding to my discussion

Hahahahaha

Aaahahahaha
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>>3136
Here's the "State of /tg/ General" discussion thread, post here:
>>1822
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>>3145
What are you contributing to the creation of spoiler tags, by raging against a decision that has already been made?
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/tg/ really does not need spoilers.

They're just going to be used for porn dumps.
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>>3167
I can't tell the difference between any of these versions.
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Please tone down the one on one raging. This board is supposed to be for questions to moot about the functioning of the board, not for flaming. It isn't appropriate and it isn't giving moot a good impression.
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>>3190
Great! If he gets a bad impression about spoilers on /tg/, he might reconsider this massive blunder.
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>>3190
This anon is right!

Sigh, /tg/ can't stop bickering even when it's away from home...
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I just spotted this thread on /tg/ and thought it was perfect.

Could anyone add "SPOILERS" somewhere in there in a way that fits the aesthetic? Perhaps make the red more uh, red if it helps.
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>>3190
But by having these kinds of threads on /q/ instead of /tg/ proper, we have finally managed to bottle and export a little piece of our wonderful board!

Behold, Bottled Neckbeard Rage!
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>>3203
You know, the good thing about this board is, since I can see your ID, I can know what posts to ignore.
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>>3203
Acting like children 5 minutes in will not do anything. Give the spoilers some time so it can be determined if they are actually worth having. THEN post politely if you think they aren't working out. Civility goes a long way, people.
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>>3190
I have already made my case, and so far moot has not seen fit to come reply to the discussion and issue a final verdict. The people arguing for spoilers are just acting more like annoying cocks now, since there's not much left to argue about, and that circles back to me.

>>3164
And you seem to think that people shouldn't argue against decisions that have taken place already. You think we should just quietly accept whatever happens and not voice our opinions - on a board SPECIFICALLY FOR voicing our opinions and asking questions.
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>>3238
Why not wait and see?
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>>3167
Still not perfect, one more... but the board is calling it flood.

>>3186
It's minor vertical positioning stuff. One pixel or less.

>>3214
Don't get me wrong, I fucking love Elesh Norn. But is she really thematically appropriate? I mean, censorship is a white thing, but I don't think Norn ever did any herself?
And aside from that, the red is the wrong shade, her cloak shouldn't be outlined, and the image size is wrong, needs to be made 100x100.
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>>3262
It's not like I can do anything else until moot comes back. Or decides to post as moot again.
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>>3291
It's a way of representing MtG in the spoilers, I suppose. You're right about it being the wrong size though, although the red could always be redder.
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>>3236
He made up his mind long before this actually happened. In the interest of politeness, I'll stop arguing. I sincerely hope Moot doesn't take the arguments of an angry minority too seriously.
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>>3315
>I sincerely hope Moot doesn't take the arguments of an angry minority too seriously
And I hope he doesn't take the arguments of a cheering minority too seriously either.
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>>3343
>>3315
Heeeey, just a crazy thought, but... what if none of this is that big a deal?
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>>3315
>>3343
Just fuck already.
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>>3291
Alright, perfect. That's the version of Friend Computer to use, unless someone has other modification I should make.

>>3357
You're on the wrong internet, friend.
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>>1569
This without doubt.
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Figured a d6 might cover more ground than a d20 or d10. After all, a six-sided die is kinda like the epitome of traditional gaming dice. Here's the no background one.
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>>3995
Here's a more traditional slant on it. That's it for me.
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I like gradients.
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>>4036
this I dig. d6 is relevant to so many more /tg/ things than any other dice. It's the best one to use.
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>>4055
ALL OF MY WANT
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>>4036
I like this
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Just a query... could you put spoilers on /mu/? Seeming as it's pretty much /v/ all it's missing is spoilers.

The spoiler image could be Richard D. James' face with a filter and shit. But I don't have photoshop.
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>>4036
this is great
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>>4055
better than the warhammer one.
>>4036
This one is good too.
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>>4036
That's got my vote.

Best one so far
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As much as I hate asking this, I'm noticing a massive influx of off-topic and previously banned content on /tg/.

While it's not quite as repetitive as quest threads, I think /tg/ should remain spoiler free, for the sheer sake of content. I am not against pornography being posted, but spoilers would allow for pointless, off-topic threads like >>>/tg/20233671 and >>>/tg/20233242

Neither of those threads are relevant to the board; and I thought spoilers were implemented to prevent spoilers, not hiding words that hold no meaning. This is just an opinion from a concerned boardgoer.
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>>4309
I wouldn't be surprised if some buttmad faggots were getting mad that it wasn't their /tg/

just report them and move on

goddamn it i should apply for being a janitor on /tg/ at this rate
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>>4327
If there was a level-headed janitor on hand, 24/7...Maybe a few in shifts, I wouldn't be so worried but alas; /tg/ is notorious for running it's moderation off.
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>>4352
I'd love to do what I can were applications open
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>>4036
I lied when I said I was done. I made one more with the Imperial Aquila.
It's a little busy for my taste, but I wanted to toss it up here anyway.
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If a mod's here, would you mind putting a sticky on /tg/ with "You guys have spoilers now." and leaving the thread open for a week or two, so people can test out spoilers etc.

Thanks for your time!
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>>4395
It's nice but I prefer the D6


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