You mean a sticky that links to a rec wiki or something?

Because the stickies on /h/ still don't stop people from making requests and posting shitty western/Reiq porn.

It's been discussed among users quite a bit, and I don't think a sticky would help.

You're still going to get people who ignore it or say they've seen "X" anime from the chart and want similar, or that they want something newer (the rec charts don't have stuff from around the last 2-3 years).

Also, the /a/ mentality has been that people shouldn't be spoonfeed at all. A sticky with recs on it would go against that and invite newcomers into what some perceive as an "elitist" anime community (not suggesting that's necessarily true, just what /a/ likes to think).

http://animu-mango.wikia.com/wiki/Anime_Recommendations

Making this a sticky might help.

Also, it would be nice if someone posted the charts in the sticky.

>>722

Exactly. Or to be more percise, this one: >>743

>>742

Then add on to the list of links. MAL for example if they want to find an anime similar to another one.

rec threads interrupting your waifu threads buddy?

fuck off.

every other board for media gets rec threads all the time.

grow up faggots.

Anonymous ## Mod
08/08/12(Wed)03:05
No.828

Anonymous ## Mod 08/08/12(Wed)03:05 No.828

Stickies are an eyesore and will not prevent people from making recommendation threads.

>>806

And get invaded by tumblr faggots like /co/ has been?

No thanks. Look, it doesn't take an obscure search term in google to find the /a/ rec wiki, and plenty of places like MAL will serve decent recs.

>>851
So many thing are wrong with this post

Why must we spoonfeed them anyway? It's pretty easy to search for anime recommendations on Google because of all the wikis/charts out there and if it's accepted we'll be having a shitload of threads asking the same questions.

>>895
>>692
>>851
>how do i not respond to threads

>>806
Then perhaps there should be a global rule restricting all recommendation threads to /r/ so those other boards won't be plagued with them.

>>913
have you ever been to /r/?

>>926

...Maybe a sfw /r/?

/a/ has a really bad case of "all threads must be responded to" syndrome.

>>895
Probably because most people that are new seem to think of /a/ as the god of recommendations. If they're new, they just haven't lurked enough which I believe is one of the must-do's if you start browsing a new board. Also, trolls.

>>913
I don't agree with you there.

>>940
Yeah, it has gotten really bad lately
But the thing is, people should learn to Google and don't bother /a/ with their problems

>>828
It's the truth

Look at this board. Moot made a big sticky saying NO BOARD RECOMMENDATIONS. And what did people do?

The kind of people who make rec threads aren't going to look at the sticky .

>>992
people want 4chans opinion though because we're all bros here broski

>>828
I don't know, I wouldn't mind a marquee reading "FUCKING GOOGLE IT" in big, rainbow-colored letters. Would be worth it and board regulars should be able to block it easily enough.

Anonymous ## Mod
08/08/12(Wed)03:22
No.1043

Anonymous ## Mod 08/08/12(Wed)03:22 No.1043

Also, please stop being so touchy about anything related to recommendations. Obviously, you should just ignore the ones that go, "I liek Elfen Lied and Death Note. What shud I watch next?"

But when a legitimate recommendation thread such as those asking for specific qualities such as a cyberpunk setting, don't be so quick to respond with gb2 /v/.

>>913

But the mindset of someone who wants anime recs is that the dedicated anime board will know more about the medium and what's good than the general recommendation board.

As an aside, I wish everyone used 4chan X or how to use reverse image search. Seeing people pleading for sauce when they see a pic that can easily be googled (one click if you have 4chan X), it gets annoying.

>>1043
>specific qualities
>cyberpunk setting

lol fuck off retard

>>1043
I love helping on /co/ recomendation threads I wish I could help on anime recomendations

>>1043
I've been trying to get across this to many people on /a/, but because most of them blindly hate on things to fit in they just don't get it.

It honestly pisses me off that /a/ doesn't have a sticky with a list of most recommended lists and the current season's list, since, while it wouldn't stop all the recommendation threads, it would cut down on them pretty hard, I'd think.

The main reason it bugs me is because of how elitist /a/ is, which can be a good thing at times, but really serves no purpose but to piss people off.

On a side note I kind of wish "spoonfeeding" could be filtered to something else because that shit's obnoxious.

>>1043
They should just use the aniDB tags for that. We hardly ever get rec threads specific enough to require an actual person.

>>1081
make a script for it yourself tard

>>1054
I'm a person that responds to every recommendation thread I see and I give a recommendation.

More harm is done by you posting "fuck off back to /v/" than giving a recommendation.

Get it into your head that /a/ is not a secret club.

>>1088

it isn't like that stops people from saying it.

That's why i'm hesitant to use filters and really only have like one or two people on mine, because just because I don't see them doesn't mean they aren't there.

>>1103
do you want the post filtered out, or the text changed to something else?

>>1081
Recommendation threads aren't a real problem in the first place, so it is unnecessary.

Most recommendation threads will fall after a few posts. Those that continue on will probably have some kind of discussion past recommendations.

If you don't like seeing them you can easily hide them. There's literally no reason to care about them and the only people who do are the ones trying too hard to fit in.

>>1043

I tend to feel a lot more compelled to help someone with a rec if they actually exhibit some sort of knowledge of what they're talking about. General recs where people are new to the medium and have only seen a really sparse amount of entry level, Toonami/AS type stuff is really annoying.

However, when it's something specific, dealing with certain themes or settings, and examples given by the OP of similar stuff they've seen, I don't think it's so bad.

>>1071
>blindly hate on things to fit in they just don't get it.

Yeah, and that's the /a/ mentality on a lot of things. They do it with shows, sub groups, genres, people, and will latch onto concepts and buzz words just to fit in.

>>1091
It would be a lot better if you could tell them how to look for good anime recs instead of just recommending a few shows or posting outdated-ish charts

>>1086
Yes, because the average person asking for recommendations will be aware of AniDB, even ignoring it's terribly unintuitive interface.

>>1119
I do that as well.

That's why I suggested >>743 .

>>692
Because they do it to piss you off you stupid nigger.
If you weren't that uppity about rec threads, trolls wouldn't have swarmed the board like that.

>>1125
We do really want people who don't know about aniDB on /a/ in the first place?

>>1134
Everyone will be ignorant of something at some point. Were you born with the knowledge of AniDB's existence?

>>1131

Just because a lot of people make rec threads to piss others off doesn't mean that's the only reason they exist.

I mean, not everyone on /v/ that wants to discuss borderlands is a marketer.

>>1142
I was born knowing how to type or form English sentences either, but I expect people to know how to do that before posting on /a/.

>>1142

But you see, regular users of /a/ expect everyone posting there to be knowledgeable of things like that. They don't want newfags.

This is an issue that's been discussed off and on for years now. The general consensus as I have seen is that first and foremost, a sticky is indeed an eyesore. It will always be taking up valuable front page space. For a board as elitist as /a/, most of the userbase is going to suffer at the expense of that 1-2% who comes in every now and then to ask "hay guise wat do i watch next?"

Secondly, you have to understand that not all recommendation threads are legitimate. I've seen people blatantly admit that they create recommendation threads just to get a rise out of people. That whittles down the amount of people a sticky would help even further. Also to be considered is that newcomers might not even read the sticky to begin with.

Thirdly, I have to say that /a/ actually already does a good job with self-moderation. "Boku no Pico," "Shonen Maid Kuro-kun," "lurk moar," whatever--it's fulfilled its part at curbing retardation for a while now.

But you know where things really get messy? It's not the threads themselves. It's when people start discussing all sorts of meta board bullshit in these recommendation threads. I used to do that; however, you eventually learn that it doesn't help. The same topic gets discussed ad nauseum. I have nothing against people arguing for a good cause, but we literally do this EVERY DAY about the SAME OLD SHIT. And that's why recommendation threads are always on the front page. Just ignore, or at least sage. That would fix much of the issue. But people don't.

Look, here's the truth: good posters already know not to shitpost, and people who already shitpost won't care what you say. There are other ways you can help other than shouting at a brick wall.

I've digressed a bit, but I hope I've made my point.

>>1156
>>1159
There is no problem with ignorance. It's a distinctly different concept from being an idiot. People have to start somewhere and everyone was new at some point.

The main people who try to make it a requirement to know everything about everything to enter /a/ or any board are the people trying too hard to assert their superiority over others to feel better about themselves.

>>1219
No one is saying being ignorant of aniDB makes you an idiot, but making a thread on a board you haven't lurked on to ask for recommendations in ignorance of aniDB does.

>>1219

>There is no problem with ignorance. It's a distinctly different concept from being an idiot.

I never implied newfags were idiots, just that they are ignorant, so need to lurk, watch anime and figure things out for themselves or gain info from other sites before spouting their uneducated opinion or asking for recs.

I think what really needs to be done is for /a/ to be split into separate boards for waifu garbage along with the other "we must fit in with the hive" trash, and make a new board that's actually for anime & manga.

>>1269

An /ag/ board wouldn't solve anything, it would just make /a/ worse.

>>1248
No, that only makes you ignorant, and you're asking questions to rectify that ignorance.

You're speaking from the perspective of someone who is already aware of AniDB, rather than looking it at it from the perspective of someone who is unfamiliar and unaware. If someone has a question about anime and comes to /a/ for help, their first thought is not "I need to lurk and wait until some random site I'm unaware is referenced". The thread creation function is there for a reason.

>>1300

>If someone has a question about anime and comes to /a/ for help, their first thought

Their first thought should be to use google, not /a/. /a/ isn't an anime help board for people who aren't regular /a/ users.

>>1300
If it can be answered using lmgtfy, I think it's safe to say it shouldn't be a thread on /a/.

>>1261
Asking for help is not "giving an opinion". People are asking for direction from people who are more familiar than they are with something else. If you'd think about a time you were completely new or unfamiliar with something you'd see how silly it sounds to suggest that someone put all this effort blindly into something.

Googling anime database sure is hard.

>>1269
/a/ is not filled with waifu threads. I just looked at the catalog and there is only 4 waifu threads (some dead) out of a possible 165 threads.

I do agree that /a/ needs to sort out the "everyone must be the model /a/ poster and follow our unwritten rules" thing though.

If anything deserves a new board, I'd like a board for translations. Whether it be books, games/VNs, comics/manga, foreign films, whatever can be translated.

>>1328

/a/ has a lot of problems. I don't think "waifu general" threads are among the biggest. They can easily be hidden, as can every general, which is why I've never understood all the rampant hate.

>>1320
And why would you expect people who are unfamiliar with /a/ to interpret its purpose the same way you do? There is nothing in the rules that says that you're not allowed to make recommendations threads. The only thing from the perspective of someone unfamiliar interprets is that this is an anime board, where people who are familiar with anime frequent.

You're also assuming that any question can be Googled and easily found an answer to, when in fact even Googling is most optimal when you have a set of knowledge of something already.

>>1343
>And why would you expect people who are unfamiliar with /a/ to interpret its purpose the same way you do?
So you're saying it's alright to not read rules and understand board culture before diving in? Typical americunts.


>You're also assuming that any question can be Googled and easily found an answer to
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=anime+database
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=anime+recommendations
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=anime+cyberpunk

Rec threads are cancer and should be deleted by mods and janitors on sight.

>>1321
Again, you're looking at it with a limited perspective. You're looking at it from the perspective of a person who already knows the answer or a way to easily find it, when that isn't how someone who is unfamiliar with something feels.

>>1343

>You're also assuming that any question can be Googled and easily found an answer to

I think it usually can.

Using an example from the thread, I searched "cyberpunk anime" and got plenty of results.

>>1355
Oh and because you're too fucking lazy to click those links and I know it, let me just paste the first result for those:

>http://lmgtfy.com/?q=anime+database
AniDB.net
www.anidb.net/

>http://lmgtfy.com/?q=anime+recommendations
Anime Database and Recommendations | Anime-Planet
www.anime-planet.com/anime/

>http://lmgtfy.com/?q=anime+cyberpunk
Category:Cyberpunk anime and manga - Wikipedia, the free ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Cyberpunk_anime_and_manga


Was that so hard?

>>1323
>People are asking for direction from people who are more familiar than they are with something else
And we're not fucking interested. /a/ is for people who have alreay watched quite a bit of anime, not the same fucking 12 toonami anime OVER AND OVER AND OVER.

>>1390
You're acting like it's the same 4 people each time.

>>1390
/a/ is not a secret club.

>And we're not fucking interested
>we

Stop talking on behalf of everyone that browses /a/.

>>1396
That is every single anime fan outside of /a/. They only watch toonami anime and circlejerk over it continuously, (which is why we see people complaining about "moeshit" all the time because their only exposure to anime was Big O, DBZ, and Bebop) maybe some low tier shonen crap on the side at best.

>>1408
If it wasn't true no one would complain about rec threads in the first place. No one wants to spoonfeed people who only watched toonami. Every thread has turned into a shitstorm without fail. If that isn't proof I don't know what is.

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Update and sticky this. That way there shouldn't be anymore excuses for both making and replying to recommendation threads since they already have the tools to make their own research.

>>1422

>Update

That's a fucking keyword. Most of the terrible sub groups on that no longer exist, the recommended media player config has changed and there are now other torrent sites or they've changed their name.

>>1355
It is impossible to be aware of what a boards "culture" is without learning it. The concept of "lurk moar" has no value to anyone who has never heard it.

Yes, I do think it's perfectly fine for someone to ask a question. You do not need to "lurk" to ask questions. That isn't very efficient at all. The only people who get upset over questions are those trying too hard to fit in themselves.

You continue to look at it from a limited perspective if you assume that someone unfamiliar sees the same thing you do when they Google. For instance, when I first got into programming I had no idea where to start. You can get a dozen different answers as to where you should start or what books you should use--it's daunting. It was much easier to get answers straight from people themselves, and be able to get answers for my specific questions. Only later does it seem somewhat "obvious" of where to start, but because I'm a rational adult with the basic ability of empathy, I can put myself in the shoes of other people and not expect them to be as knowledgeable as I am on everything.

>>1390
You do not represent all of /a/. This is another common problem with /a/. Children who think they run the board.

>>1422
>That way there shouldn't be anymore excuses for both making and replying to recommendation threads
>"hey guys I know there is already a sticky but could you recommend me some anime anyway"
Well if you say so.

>>1435
>You do not need to "lurk" to ask questions
YES YOU DO
LURK WEEKS BEFORE POSTING
I miss the old days when the POLITE thing to do was lurk before posting, when this was a common thing. Believe it or not lurking used to be a very commonly used word on forums and messageboards across the net that had died out with the new generation of internet users.

>>1420
I don't remember any of these complaints about "Toonami" until it came back which leads me to believe that the majority of people complaining about it are relatively new themselves, and got trolled into thinking of Toonami.

There is nothing wrong with someone starting from Toonami. There is nothing productive about not helping them if they present themselves reasonably.

Boku no Pico. Period.

>>1475
Let's just sticky "Watch Boku no Pico before you ask any questions." since that's what is required to be on /a/

>>1466

>I don't remember any of these complaints about "Toonami" until it came back

A lot of people on /a/ probably started out watching anime from Toonami or Adult Swim. However, they then moved on, found a plethora of other stuff and expanded their tastes and knowledge greatly.

For some time now, Toonami has been something that nostalgiafags on /v/ have circlejerked about, along with stuff like Bebop and FMA. They're not actual anime fans, they just watched Toonami and remember those few shows, then spew their opinions on the anime industry as if they know what they're talking about.

/a/ no longer cares for Toonami because they've moved on from dubbed, entry level shows, whilst those who were most elated were those casual viewers who only reminisce about those old shows.

>>1466
>until it came back which leads me to believe that the majority of people complaining about it are relatively new themselves
or that you completely missed the point of why people were complaining in the first place, it is not that Toonami itself is bad. It's the effects. That is why, when news came that it was being brought back did complaints skyrocket. And I can already tell you do not browse /a/ because this flew right over the head of crossboard posters, parroting the same exact responses over and over. Don't tell me, you're going to call me a hipster next or that I'm trying to "fit in"?

>There is nothing productive about not helping them if they present themselves reasonably.
If they want to make a good impression they should do the polite thing and lurk first.

Ugh... We didn't get anywhere with this shit on /a/, and we certainly aren't getting anywhere with this shit on /q/.

We've been beating a dead horse for years now. There's only so much the community can do by itself, and a dead end has long been reached. Unless higher authority decides to step in somehow, you really aren't getting anywhere.

Why don't you guys just ignore recommendation threads and report them instead? We don't even get that many. I repeat, we don't even get that many. It may seem like we do sometimes, but we really don't. If no one replied, we wouldn't even be fucking having this problem. Christ almighty.

>>1502
refer to
>>940
for the answer to your question

The sticky helped /fit/.
It could help us.

>>1510
I fucking know that. If you're going to propagate the issue by responding to every recommendation thread though, at least don't complain about it. It's unsightly as hell.

>>1517
You can't really compare /a/ with /fit/ for a variety of reasons.

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>>1502
Here's the problem.
1. ignore the threads, spoonfed newfags responded, continuuing the cycle. This happening in 09/10 when everyone was saying "just ignore it, it'll go away!" and lead to a huge shitstorm. Pic related.

2. Replying to the threads isn't much better but at the very least people who are not complete idiots will see that they are not welcome on the board. Trolls on the other hand are a bit more difficult to get rid of but they might get the message eventually.

>>1454
No, you do not need to lurk for weeks to ask for questions about anime. It's simply stupid to even imply that someone do that.

Lurking has less value on image boards which have very disposable content, especially when you get to the faster boards. It's not comparable to traditional messageboards where you can go through pages of old threads to get answers to questions you might have and are generally more organized.

Unless you've been here longer than 2006 which I can't speak on, the "old days" never existed in that regard.

>>692
It's not against the rules.

Why does /a/ hate rec threads so much anyway? They don't appear nearly as often as people claim, they are anime related. What's the problem?

>>1545
ARCHIVES BITCH, then again newfags won't know about its existence.

>>1545
It doesn't matter whether its an imageboard or not, all message boards used to expect you to do this. If you want help you have to give us back something in return, and the best way to do that is to educate yourself then ask specific questions on what you need and want.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lurker

>>1534
Most of that is just cherry picked responses.

>>1495
Everything you said here is irrelevant. It doesn't justify acting like a dick to someone who's looking to expand their horizons.

>>1496
I have not seen any valid justification for attacking anything on the basis that it is Toonami, especially when Tooonami is apparently just a rebranded Adult Swim, which last I checked, hasn't gone anywhere.

I can guarantee you I've been a part of /a/ much longer than you have. You probably weren't even around back when Toonami was still airing and there were threads mourning is loss.

>>1574

>It doesn't justify acting like a dick to someone who's looking to expand their horizons.

We don't want casual/new fags on /a/. Why is this so hard to understand?

Lurk the fuck more and watch more anime, then you can post.

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>>1557
see >>1534 picture

>>1561
I have more, and you can go read the archives yourself.

>>1574
>It doesn't justify acting like a dick to someone who's looking to expand their horizons.
>BAWW SOMEONE IS BEING MEAN TO ME ON THE INTERNET
When did people start thinking that it is our job to help them? There is no rule set in stone that we have to help every single person that comes to our doorstep.

>>1574
Tom going was sad, but toonami hadn't aired anything decent in years. It's no wonder it got canned. People mourned for old toonami, nothing more.

>>1587
That's a pretty ignorant view. Lurking doesn't really do anything to help to figure out what you should watch, no matter how much you claim it does.

>>1587
/a/ pls go. You are /v/ tier shitposting day in and day out and honestly /co/ is 10,000 times better.

>>1534
I swear I've seen that image millions of times. People seem to be forgetting that those posts are cherry picked. I could go more indepth about the issue, but that's not necessary here.

I'll get to the point. You're right in that "spoonfed newfags" will respond and thereby continue the cycle. That's because this is not an ideal world nor is /a/ a perfect hivemind; instances such as rec. threads are dangerous in that slight upsets (such as one or two people responding) can do great damage. However, this is where the "report" part of my suggestion comes in. Given that we not only ignored these threads but the janitors/moderators also deleted them (with caution, of course), /a/ would be a happier place.

Both cases are flawed. I admit it. But if anything else, not responding is the lesser of two evils. Why? 1) It won't fucking glue the recommendation thread to the front page and perpetuate the various misconceptions and 2) trolls won't be as likely to make recommendation threads just to piss people off.

>>1614

>honestly /co/ is 10,000 times better.

/co/ is full of fags from tumblr.

>>1560
Yes, it does matter, because message boards tend to be more organized with their content. They usually have stickied threads for commonly asked questions and explanations of etiquette. You can go back and look at any threads from the past. They usually search functions now too. It's not comparable at all to vanilla 4chan, which has literally none of that.

I'm not completely against the concept of telling people to lurk to get a better understanding of a culture. I think there's value in that. Expecting people to come here with specific questions on anime and "lurk for weeks" is absolutely retarded, however.

>>1532
Hey. I agree. Good luck telling that to /a/ though

>>1617
>2) trolls won't be as likely to make recommendation threads just to piss people off.
Couldn't agree more on this. I wouldn't have made more than one if I didn't know how shitty /a/ gets at it.

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>>1604
>Lurking doesn't really do anything to help to figure out what you should watch
Because we never talk about anime right. How about starting with whats airing this season, and then move onto older anime we discuss occasionally. Hell as much as I hate MAL you can easily find what you are looking for there.

>>1628
Yeah, I know. Sorry. I'm just a little upset.

>>1604
Except, you know, you could just watch shit that people seem to like and learn from your mistakes.

>>1619
No. There is no tumblr on /co/. It's a bunch of /v/tards posting trollthreads about tumblr everyday and then the misogynists from /v/ and /r9k/ flock in. /a/ is basically /v/ anyway and /co/ is as good as ever.

>>1595
>When did people start thinking that it is our job to help them? There is no rule set in stone that we have to help every single person that comes to our doorstep.
There is no set rule for how to communicate with anyone. That doesn't mean it's reasonable to do so. Attacking people for simply being ignorant is always stupid.

The fact that you take that image seriously is enough to tell me that you're probably retarded and I shouldn't take you seriously at all.

>>1614
>You are /v/ tier shitposting
You do realize the majority of the weeaboo tripfags on /v/ are people we kick out of /a/ right. It's not like we are full of love for avatar users or tripfags. Half the problem is you see an anime reaction image and flip the fuck out.

>>1648

>/a/ is basically /v/ anyway

But we actually talk about anime.

Anonymous ## Mod
08/08/12(Wed)04:36
No.1661

Anonymous ## Mod 08/08/12(Wed)04:36 No.1661

>>1648
>>1619
>>1614
Please keep all discussion related to /a/ as that is this thread's topic and leave your little board rivalries out.

>>1641
That's a retarded way to do things. It's much easier to say "I like lucky star, what do you recommend" and have people respond.

>>1664
But /a/ssholes are too arrogant and autistic to allow such threads to exist.

Hey tards, you are forgetting something.

Stickys can be hidden.

>>1664
So you're just lazy and expect for others to do the work for you.
Okay I'm done here.

>>1684
I bet you love Ayn Rand.

>>1664

Here, I have something for you. This will blow your fucking mind and takes far less time than going to /a/, starting a thread, picking an image etc.

http://myanimelist.net/anime/1887/Lucky_%E2%98%86_Star/userrecs

>>1684
That's a cop out response.

>>1661
Could you take this post and post it at the top of /co/, /v/, and /a/ in a very large font please

>>1661
Are you actually reading any of these posts? Some feedback would be nice. If mods believed in deleting senseless (the word senseless is important) recommendation threads, a lot of this mess would be cleaned up.

We struggle with this issue because we're trying to do something that's not really in our power. Self-moderation is tough. It's a miracle we've managed to do it for so long.

>>1703
And
>that's retarded
isn't?

>>1704
>Could you take this post and post it at the top of /co/, /v/, and /a/ in a very large font please
>
I approve of this message.

>>1706

Most rec threads do get deleted.

You can't expect mods and janitors to be so quick that everything is deleted instantly. Just make sure you report it.

>>1706
Kino seems to do a pretty good job as it is. He just can't be up 24/7 unfortunately. Morning /a/ is the worst part of the day.

Anonymous ## Mod
08/08/12(Wed)04:40
No.1726

Anonymous ## Mod 08/08/12(Wed)04:40 No.1726

>>1706
Yes, I'm reading through every post. I personally side with the view that lurking is a virtue and I already delete the more stupid and senseless recommendation threads.

>>1708
Good point, but I did explain what would be better than being retarded.

>>1723
I understand that. I'm not necessarily trying to give him a hard time--it's just that I want a clear view on the issue so people can decide what course of action to take.

>>1726
Thanks for responding. Sorry if I came off as rude.

>>1701
If you're expecting that someone new and unfamiliar would first think "Let me go to Myanimelist.net and find Lucky Star recommendations" you're stupid.

>>1728
Lurking is the polite way to do things, if you want respect earn it.

>>1726
So you delete some but not all?
That's good to know that at least the mods aren't aspie faggots.
At least not all of them.

>>1735
Great, so /a/ is a dumping ground for people who aren't even up to MAL standards. Is that what you envision /a/ to be?

There should be either a sticky or an announcement that says, "lurk the fuck moar." Then a list of the sites given in this thread.

>>1726
But /a/ is really the only board that flies into a rage if one dares ask for recommendations.

>>1625
>Expecting people to come here with specific questions on anime and "lurk for weeks" is absolutely retarded, however.
That kind of person won't be a valuable contributor to /a/, there's absolutely no reason for the community to accept this kind of behavior. /a/ is a board for discussing anime and manga, it's not anyone's personal butler. If you don't accept to lurk for weeks, hell months before posting anything you don't even deserve to be on /a/. If you just want to ask stupid questions like "wat anime watch" use your brain and google it.

>>1726
I already delete the more stupid and senseless recommendation threads.
You are the coolest

I already posted about this in the "why can't we talk about toonami" thread, but I think what a lot of people who post rec threads don't understand is that you're breaking the unwritten rule of "lurk moar".

It is always ALWAYS frowned upon to just go to a new board and immediately post a thread. You should be lurking for a WHILE before you do something like that.

That and more people who post rec threads always get really hostile.

>>1735

>If you're expecting that someone new and unfamiliar

Here's the thing, and I feel like we're going in circles. New and unfamiliar users should not be posting rec threads on /a/. They should lurk and find these things out for themselves.

Lurk a bit and it won't take long to find out about MAL, or numerous other services and sites which will make finding anime easier for you.

>>1749
/a/ is for anime and manga. I'm sorry if it's not what you want it to be.

>>1735
What part of lurking do you not understand?

>>1746
Justly so. >>1595 >>1534
There is a reason we have not devolved into feminism and feel threads.

If someone is to become a long term member of /a/, it doesn't even need to be said that they need to lurk. A lot. Why is this even being discussed? People say "lurk more" for a reason.

>>1749
The kind of people that bitch and moan whenever a rec thread appears without doing anything to help the user, or not even bothering to say in a polite manner that rec threads aren't welcome on /a/ are hardly valuable posters themselves. I'd rather a moron asking questions politely than a bleeding cunt that just wants to cry.

>>1766
Well if you see it that way, /a/ is for discussing anime and manga, not requests. Requests go in /r/.

>>1771
Because people from other boards like /co/ have gotten really entitled

this isn't an insult to /co/, but on /co/ they just give new users exactly what they want from the get go, so these users think that it's okay to do that on any board they want.

>>1767
Is that honestly your only retort? I'm afraid I do not see the logic at all here. You're grasping at straws.

>>1775
See >>1534 again. It would be easy to ignore them but doing starts a self perpetuating cycle. Elitism does better than nothing.

>>1780
Yet pretty much every board BUT /a/ is more than willing to help.

>>1744
That's a terrible slippery slope fallacy. Being unaware of MAL or any stupid anime site has nothing to do with someone's intelligence or potential worth to a community.

Just implement faptcha on /a/. Would keep out the ignorant newfags.

>>1766
I didn't even say anything that could possibly imply that.

/a/ is for anime and manga. not spoonfeeding idiots who aren't even able to use google. I'm sorry if that's not what you want it to be.

>>1784
If you do not see the value in lurking you are not welcome in /a/.

>>1798
If they are polite enough to lurk first they will be treated with respect. People who go on /a/ their first day asking for things to watch deserve NOTHING.

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If you are too stupid to use google, you can't be a valuable contributor. It's simple as that.
And mod, you're a nice guy.

>>1796
Every board is becoming more and more casual though.

There's no reason for /a/ to just bend to your will just because you want some more Bebop wonderland Z

>>1780
Yeah, fucking seriously. People say /a/ is too elitist and mean. But that kind of mentality is what has kept /a/ mostly clean for so many years. During a time when so many other boards don't seem to even care about post quality or lurking (some boards even revolve around shitposting, my goodness), /a/ is almost a haven.

I say almost because /a/ has its share of other flaws, but I won't say anything about that because that's not the topic we're discussing.

>>1749
Ignorance of MAL indicates nothing about someone's intelligence or potential worth to a community.

Asking questions does not assume someone is your "personal butler". It only suggests that you don't know something and are requesting that someone who does would be willing to bestow more knowledge upon them. You aren't required to answer anyones questions.

>>1789
I don't see what you think is so compelling about that image. The OPs are asking for recommendations in a polite way, then regular /a/spie posters are being cunts, which drives OP to post defensively and turn into the same cum slurping asshole that everyone else is. If anything, you people make it worse.

It's a pity, but our hostility really IS part of what has kept us cleaner than other boards of comparable size and speed.

>>1809
You have no idea how someone has "lurked" before posting so this is a useless post.

>>1816
Yeah, 4chan as a whole just isn't quite as fun anymore there's just not much you can do about it. As long as /a/ doesn't turn into an offtopic paradise like /v/ it's enough for me.

>>1823
If you lurk and watch the basics, then you can be more specific. Notice if you are polite and ask for a specific KIND of anime you will generally get better responses over
>just give me a huge list of everything to watch and i'll look at it later

>>1832
I'd say that /a/ is equally as bad because of the hostility.

>>1726
I can't remember the last time we got a recommendation thread you couldn't just Google the answer to. Could be the new standard for which rec threads are allowed and which ones aren't?

>>1813
So basically /a/ is autist central. There's no reason /a/ should bend to your will of waifu elitist loli kawaii number 90000.

>>1836

It's true that you don't know how long someone has lurked and if someone is able to integrate seamlessly into the community with little or no lurking, then good for them.

However, asking for recs is a sign you haven't lurked and don't know where to find anime yourself.

There are a bunch of other indicators of how new someone is, such as not knowing where to find anime.

>>1836
You can tell from their post quality. And even if they haven't lurked that much, honestly I don't really care as long as they aren't shitposting like a retard. If they catch on quick, good for them.

>>1849
As long as you include a keyword, it's alright. Everything can actually be googled, but you just need at least 1 specific keyword and it's kosher.

See >>1043

>>1832
/a/ is a shithole. You're deluded.

>>1836
>You have no idea how someone has "lurked"
Oh, you do. If he behaves in a way that is accepted on /a/, he has.

>>1846
Hostility? Go look at our anime threads then go look at /v/. They are far FAR more civil than theirs. We are only hostile to new posters.

>>1855

>There's no reason /a/ should bend to your will of waifu elitist loli kawaii number 90000.

And there's no reason /a/ should bend to your will of "Everyone welcome on /a/! shit the board up with rec threads, COWBOY BEBAP IS LE BEST ANIME EVAR!! stop posting moeshit! eeewww loli? pedos!"

>>1823
Again, it's fine if you don't know something. Just have the decency to lurk before deciding to post some stupid question.

Ignorance doesn't necessarily have anything to do with intelligence or potential worth to a community, but being unwilling to lurk certainly does.

Seriously, just LURK. Is that so hard? Because that's exactly what I did when I first came to /a/. That's exactly what most /a/nons did when they first came to /a/. The community have the right to expect the same kind of behavior from others.

>>1855
God, you people make such typical responses. It's always the same "waifu elitist loli kawaii" shit. Just stop it, please.

If you don't like /a/, just go to another community or board for your and my sake.

>>1872
Which is why it is as shitty as /v/ over there. Get over your superiority complex.

/a/ is certainly more hostile and elitist than a lot of other boards, though I'd completely disagree that the post quality or discussion is good on average.

>>1859
Even ignoring that this is obviously false from tripfags who've been around for years and still continue to be shitty posters, the idea that being around /a/ more alone will increase the quality of your posts is laughable. How delusional do you have to be.

>>1872
>Go look at our anime threads

Have you ever seen a Sword Art Online or Acchi Kochi thread?

>>1726
For that I thank you. You are what keeps /a/ from devolving to shit and I really appreciate that as a person who has no life outside of 4chan.

>>1872
No you aren't. Your shitty attitude encourages more assholes to stay on /a/ because that behaviour seems acceptable. Which is why we can't have any threads discussing anything without people complaining at the very existence of others liking what they don't.

>>1875
So do you have a rational argument? Or are you just going to keep volleying what I say? Sorry that lolis being called out on being pedos makes you so butthurt. Moeshit is cancerous. You guys ARE /v/tards.

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>>1855
>autist central
Do you expect us to take you seriously like this.

>>1885
Tripfags != Anonymous posters
They are looking for attention, they do it on purpose.

>>1846
Well, yea it sometimes goes overboard.
Only that it eats away at the board's substance much more slowly than the alternative.
I also much prefer our open hostility to the passive aggressiveness of other boards.

>>1855
...and this is why we dislike your kind.
We too enjoy "manly" anime from time to time, but if we don not purge your kind, you'll simply stay and make it impossible to talk about anything BUT what you perceive to be "proper" anime.

>>1887
>SAO
>/v/ refuge
>AK
>had little discussion so got overrun with trolls
Yeah, these are legit examples.

Yes, that's something that appears to be greatly misunderstood. /a/ is not hostile by default. If you respect the rules and do not shitpost, it is a great board that you'll find intelligent discussion on. No, you only get called out if you act like a fucking moron.

Take some time to learn about the board culture, and your stay will be much more pleasant. If you're unwilling to do that, you really shouldn't be on /a/.

>>1887
the Naruto threads are pretty shit too, fucking autists

>>1899
Welp, there goes your credibility.

>>1877
And if you don't like non waifulolimoeshit getting trashed then you leave.

>>1885
You can still be a shitty poster after being on /a/ for many years. However, it's simply not possible to be a valuable poster if you haven't spent some time on the board.

>>1043
Ok fine, /a/ is full of elitists. I don't think there's a single regular poster on the board that would argue otherwise. This isn't the main reason why /a/ has a problem with recommendation threads, contrary to what a lot of people would believe. It's not that /a/ wants to be a "super sekrit club", it has more to do with encouraging spoonfeeding. The feeling I get from recommendation threads is that they're are usually made by people who are too lazy to do actual research for themselves, so they make threads hoping that other people will do the work for them.
Using your example, cyberpunk itself is a pretty broad topic and it's not like everyone on /a/ is an autistic guru that has a list of cyberpunk anime that they can recite on the fly. More often than not, we would have to check google; something the thread starter should've been doing in the first place. I refuse to believe people don't know how to use google, but in the unlikely event that they're actually mentally incapable to using a search engine, the most logical conclusion would be to encourage them to learn how to and not to spoonfeed recommendations so that they'll be encouraged to do it again. Even if we do help one person, what's the point if hundreds of newcomers keep asking the same questions on a regular basis.
So in short, if you're fishing for recommendations on /a/, Boku no Pico is all you're getting, and it's all you're ever going to get. Worst part is, people still insist on making recommendation threads knowing this.

>>1899

>Sorry that lolis being called out on being pedos makes you so butthurt. Moeshit is cancerous. You guys ARE /v/tards.

Yuck. I'm done speaking with you.

>>1899
>So do you have a rational argument?
>Moeshit is cancerous.
C'mon, boss, you have to make it sound like you're not from /v/.

>>1900
It is autist central, speaking as an /a/non.

>>1905
>SAO
>/v/ refuge

Do you have proof?

Anonymous ## Mod
08/08/12(Wed)04:59
No.1926

Anonymous ## Mod 08/08/12(Wed)04:59 No.1926

Please try to keep the discussion civil and not resort to flinging buzzwords such as moeshit.

>>1876
You have no idea how long someone has lurked before they post something.

A fast imageboard like /a/ isn't comparable to a typical message board. Expecting the same kind of standards for lurking is silly. The contentless discussion, contentless OPs would never fly on any typical message board , but I'm sure you're not complaining about that.

It is impossible for you to know what most people did when they first started coming to /a/, so there is no reason to speak on their personal experiences.

Rec threads are cancer and one of the worst problems on /a/. I hope a rule against all rec threads can be instituted.

>>1926
Are aspie and autist still okay?

>>1926
You of all people should know /a/ isn't capable of that.

>>1932
>You have no idea how long someone has lurked before they post something.
If they make a recommendation thread, post naruto, or open a Bebop thread with "Moeshit" unironically, then I have a pretty good idea how long they've lurked.

All rec thread OPs have seen the same five fucking anime every time . Google will easily answer their questions

Also, you cannot expect an entire board to change its mentality because moot/a mod said so

Anonymous ## Mod
08/08/12(Wed)05:01
No.1951

Anonymous ## Mod 08/08/12(Wed)05:01 No.1951

>>1938
Try not to resort to flinging insults of any kind. This board is meant for constructive criticism and discussion.

>>1932
You can tell whether a person has lurked.

Hint: They don't make stupid threads like rec threads.

>>1899

>(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

Nice one mod.

I don't get why hostility is ALWAYS linked with liking "moe" by ignorant posters. I mean, seriously? Why the hell is that? My favorites are old shonen series. It's just a joke, right?

>>1926
I'll try, I promise.

>>1945
>If they make a recommendation thread, post naruto, or open a Bebop thread with "Moeshit" unironically, then I have a pretty good idea how long they've lurked.
Word.

Hey mod, what is your stance on image dump threads? Threads along the lines of "Post your waifu" or "[anime character] thread" with very little discussion

>>1951
You should really see some of the other threads.

Just while a mod is actually paying attention, have you got anything to say on this question? >>770

>>1957
Not necessarily. I saw "moeshit" used several times in the non-/a/ Toonami threads, so the sentiment is still present.

>>1932
If someone makes a "hai gaiz I just watched death note gib me more anime liek dis", you can clearly see how much they lurked. Your argument is meaningless. Just because we can't pinpoint how much time every poster spent on /a/ in a completely accurate way, it doesn't mean you can't understand how someone just decided to visit /a/ few days ago. And you don't have to be a genius to see how that kind of poster won't be valuable to /a/.

>>1957
As I've mentioned before, people who have only seen toonami complain when airing anime is nothing like it. Which is to be expected as toonami catered to Americans, not Japanese. However expecting Japan to spew out more western themed anime just for you is selfish and unrealistic. There is nothing wrong with Toonami anime, some are quite good but they are not the GREATEST ANIME OF ALL TIME.

>>1957
My favorite shows are old shonen series. but I still watch and enjoy moe series. I think most people calling things moeshit are trolls and faggots from /v/ who only eve watched stuff on toonami.

>>1943

I wish it was. I wish I could discuss a show and provide criticism without having someone go "YEAH! WHY DON'T YOU GO BACK TO YOUR LOLI MOESHIT!!"

Like this guy >>1957 I won't even make reference to those types of shows, people just assume that if I don't like what they like, I must fit some stereotype they've conjured in their minds.

>>1957
>I don't get why hostility is ALWAYS linked with liking "moe" by ignorant posters. I mean, seriously? Why the hell is that? My favorites are old shonen series. It's just a joke, right?
>
I wish they were joking.
Ignorantfags gonna ignorant.

Polite Sage For Meta.

>>1967
Image dump threads, stuff like "REI THREAD, KONATA THREAD, BROWN GIRL THREAD!" Belong in /c/, no matter how butthurt people get over it.

You should report those threads when you see them.

Guys, listen guys. Rec threads are trolls who recommend anime to themselves and trolling is against the rules, so why are they not banned? You sure as hell can tell who is trolling and who is a legit retard.

>>1934
The fact that people like you are actually under the impression that this is the root of /a/'s problem is a part of why /a/ is so terrible and why I barely go there anymore.

Recomendation threads are the least of /a/'s problems. And in fact, I don't see them as a problem at all. No one can actually articulate why they are a problem that isn't some kind of fallacious slippery slope.

Anyone who actually sees them as a genuine issue bringing down the high quality content of /a/ is a child too stupid to see any of the real issues with the board, such as the fact that most of you don't think for yourselves, which is why you actually believe this is an "issue" worth speaking about.

>>1985
What.

>>1986
Oh no, I do as well. I'm not a bigot about genres. I was just talking about the absurdity of the correlation.

>>1996
I've seen screencaps of people getting banned for reporting them and I've never seen one get deleted.

>>1992

>I think most people calling things moeshit are trolls and faggots from /v/ who only eve watched stuff on toonami.

That's exactly what it is. Either people from /v/, or trolls who think it's incredibly funny, like Kroni.

>>1996
Why report them? If they are related to anime they are allowed on /a/. There is no rule against image dumps on /a/.

>>1967
You just opened pandora's box, bro.

>>2005
>I barely go there anymore.
So why are you speaking for /a/?

>>2006
>What
Toonami gave people a bad impression of what anime is like.

>>1945
>>1955
There is no way to prove that someone who makes a recommendation thread has lurked or not at all. I've made recommendation threads of sorts years after being an /a/ regular.

>>2011
That's the second time I've seen that name used.
I haven't really used /a/ that much in recent months, who is he?

>>2028
Well, perhaps. I was just confused as to why you were directing that at me.

Wait, that wasn't you. IDs are pretty helpful sometimes.

>>2028

Nothing more hilarious than someone from /v/, who has only seen stuff from Toonami arguing that "Anime was better in the old days when we had stuff like Bebop all the time".

Fucking idiots.

>>2030
It's best to ask questions in the thread rather than at the start of it. Then the aspies won't get all shitty and butthurt about it, and you can actually get some answers.

>>2005
This. Thank you.

You can tell by posts such as: "is this anime worth watching?" "should I pick this up?" "is it wrong to X?" "Can I like X?" that /a/ is full of hiveminding puppets. Rec threads are nothing compared to this problem.

>>2030
There have been recorded cases of summerfags becoming part of /a/ permanently. You are just like them.

>>2017
Except there's an existing board that caters to that exact purpose.
/c/ fits the bill much better than /a/ for image dumps. The only reason why I can see someone choosing /a/ over /c/ is because /a/ is a faster board and that's not a legitimate excuse.

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>>2028
Couldn't have said it better myself.
This image might help a bit.

>>2032
He's a tripfag who has apparently taken on his tripcode because he's against tripfags and he wants to demonstrate their worst traits by embracing them himself. Basically he acts like a fucking retard so people will hate tripfags more.

He's crazy.

>>2007
Those screencaps are probably fake, and I doubt mods are omnipresent.

Seriously, go to /c/ right now. Look at the threads. Those character imagedump threads are literally the entire point of the board.

>>2017
/a/ is for anime discussion. Refer to above. Just take a look at /c/, browse a few pages, and tell me what you think. "Where would a character image dump thread with no discussion go?"

>/a/ users
>using "moeshit" and such seriously
My sides.
[spoiler]But if they do, they're too new to post.[/spoiler]

>>1043
itsallthesameshit.jpg

>>2030
You're still missing the point. That depends of what kind of recommendation thread it is. Most of them aren't specific enough to warrant such a thread. That's the problem.

>>2019
I know, I was also about to ask his opinion on a few more threads (like waifu threads that are only there to blog about "WHAT WOULD YOU SAY IF YOUR WAIFU ASKED TO FART ON YOUR FACE???" and other "/a/-themed" threads)
>>2032
He picked up a tripcode believing if he shitposts enough under a trip he will get people to complain hard enough that moot wil force anon on /a/ because that will magically make /a/ amazing
I'm not kidding

>>2032
Random faggot trying to instate forced anon by being a faggot.

>>2032

Kroni/y is a tripfag who has taken to shitposting constantly on the board. He attacks pretty much any thread, spouting a barrage of buzzwords and "trolling". He defends himself by saying he is going to somehow rid /a/ of tripfags.

He's pretty annoying, but I filtered him long ago.

>>1982
Being able to suspect that someone is new is not the same as being able to tell how long someone is lurked.

>And you don't have to be a genius to see how that kind of poster won't be valuable to /a/.
Considering that you have almost no way to prove the "evolution" of an /a/ user, you almost certainly have no data that would support this claim.

>>2041
Funny how that works, I suppose.

>>2063
what if the character isn't cute?

>>2047
>aspies
>butthurt
just stop posting

>>2030
>I've made recommendation threads of sorts years after being an /a/ regular.
Then you're one dense motherfucker.

>>2032
A visual argument for IDs and forced anon.

>>2060
>>2067
Really? He just turned from someone who's sitting in my filter list to my /a/ hero. I never knew he had such a noble aim.

You know, I used to be against accelespammer and how he took board moderation into his own hands, but looking at how the state of /a/ is now, I actually miss him.
I'm dead fucking serious, I want accelespammer back.

>>2064
>[spoiler]But if they do, they're too new to post.[/spoiler]
This is another problem in /a/. The abuse of the spoiler function to deliver "punchlines" or whatever the fuck. It is the new "greentext"