What are your thoughts on splitting major boards into multiple boards like 2ch does? I think the best of memes were born on 4chan when it was less popular, and it was more like a club for a bunch of nerdy friends rather than modern 4chan: a gigantic ocean of gaping fish squealing insults and trolling one another with no sense of community.Splitting /v/ into 4 boards, for example, would create four diverse little sub communities, each with their own little culture that one might grow to like over another. As a matter of fact, moderators could uh, subtly, designate one of those 4 boards as the "shit board" (allowing large amounts of nonvidya content) while heavily moderating another board, and leaving the other two boards somewhere in between in terms of what is allowed to be posted. This would be kept secret though. By having invisible rules, the good posters will naturally be attracted to the good boards, and the shit posters naturally attracted to the shit board. All will be well.
If you were leaving two boards to their own devices, what would be their point? They would just be like normal /v/. Just split it into two separate subboards, one moderated and one not. Othre boards are already somewhat divided; we've got /a/ for animu and /jaypee/ for otakuism. Most boards don't need it.
>Splitting /v/ into 4 boards, for example>>>/v/>>>/vp/>>>/vg/>>>/b/
This. The problem is that 4chan has become too popular for its own good, I think something like this would go a long way towards fixing it.
>>4952>If you were leaving two boards to their own devices, what would be their point?The little niche sub cultures that they would be able to create each in their own board. /v/ is incapable of producing anything that could be called culture in its current state; it is all one giant hivemind. It NEEDS to be split up.Four boards with invisible rules? The result will be four unique cultures, a splitting up of /v/'s current "I HATE EVERY SINGLE THING EVER" extreme form of cynicism that it is suffering from. Some people on /v/ love nonvidya threads---others despise them. Some people like both. And so, one board will be for everyone---but this will be kept written in invisible ink, so that the user will naturally be attracted to the board and culture that suits him.
I agree with you. Having /v/ split could be very beneficial if done correctly, and by done correctly I mean separating the major conflicting "factions".Here's what I think would be a great split up:/v/ - Video Games (In a general sense, like discussing mechanics, news and other related stuff rather than specific video games)/vg/ - Video Game Generals (Specific games discussion)/pc/ - Computer Gaming (Containment board for the "master race")/jv/ - Japanese Video Games (The only way to end the "weeaboo x westaboo wars")
It won't stop anything, it will just distribute it. Which might be arguably even harder to moderate, since now you have to check 4 boards at a time.
/v/ is far too fast to be efficiently moderated, fast boards are really hard to moderate, splitting up could reduce this and improve the moderation.
>>5016Pokemon is made in Japan. Should /vp/ be fused into /jv/?
>>5031Each board would have its own moderators.
>>5031See the "invisible rules" in my original post. 100% moderated board, two boards with "lenient" moderation, and then one board with 0% moderation. All kept secret.
let's split /v/ into /v1/, /v2/, /v3/, /v4/ and see what happens
Splitting up boards is just asking for fuck-ups.You can't deny that the quality of /v/'s went downhill since it started splitting off into other boards, there's less vidya than ever, and now there's talk about /vw/ - Western Games and /vj/ - Japanese Games which is fucking stupid.
>>5031Moot could be more generous with staff positionsThere's thousands of us that spend every waking moment here.
>>5016>/jv/ - Japanese Video Games (The only way to end the "weeaboo x westaboo wars")The only actually intriguing suggestion in this thread so far. Then again, I don't know how large of a portion Japanese games are of all the discussion on /v/, so would we end up with /v/ being just as active as it is now and having a second board where anyone rarely posts in?
>>5052I doubt keeping it secret will make a difference, people will see it eventually due the board's average thread quality. And then the 0% moderation board will truly turn into /b/2.0.
>>5068>now there's talk about /vw/ - Western Games and /vj/ - Japanese Games which is fucking stupid.I don't really see why it's stupid.
>>5068I have been going to 4chan for a long time. If /v/ was split into 4 boards right now, each board would still have 100x more users than /b/ had in 2005/2006. And /b/ in 2005/2006 produced so much great content, specifically because of the small user base and sense of community it had. Those of you who have only been on 4chan since 2008 and beyond probably can't even imagine why a smaller board would be good---but just trust me on this; a smaller population will result in much, much better content, and little subcultures that people will grow to love.
>>5077if we do this then we'd have to explain people mario and dark souls belongs to weaboo gamesor just tell people to deal with it and tolerate gookvidya threads
>>5016Yes, please. It would be nice to have a /pc/ board where we could talk about computer games without having shitposters constantly jumping into our threads and spewing garbage because they don't like the platform we use.
>>5077There's plenty of people willing to discuss japanese games on /v/, but at its current state this proves to be impossible, specially if the game has exaggerated anime visuals.
>>5016>/jv/ - Japanese Video GamesFinally, a board where I can talk about Dark Souls without fear of being molested on the internet!
I sincerely believe that what has changed in 4chan is not the age of the posters, but the speed of the boards.When the boards were slow you could think about your reply, proof read, make a pic in photoshop and google your references. Even if your were an idiot you could come up with a decent reply given enough time.The problem now is that if you don't reply to something in 15 minutes you opinion gets ignored, so you can only retort to regurgitating the same old opinions with the same reaction images. /v/ needs to be split to reduce the speed.I agree with >>5056, you can't lurk all of them at the same time so you would have to focus in your a single board. I also think that splitting the board by themes is a terrible idea like >>5068 said.
>>5099Because it's completely unnecessary. All it'll do is allow shitposters to shine through even more.Give me one good reason why it should happen.
Also, users looking to shitpost will just go to the other board themselves -- nothing is stopping them.
>>5133>I sincerely believe that what has changed in 4chan is not the age of the posters, but the speed of the boards.This so fucking much, I wish people would realize how hard it is to moderate a fast moving board and /v/ is second only to /b/.What I just don't get was what would be the criteria for posting on /v1/ rather than /v3/ or /v4/? Wouldn't everybody just stay at /v1/?
>>5099Itd create hostile tension between the boards and judging from how immature the majority of /v/ is now it would only lead to "epic raids lolol" on one another.Then theres the problem of where games which come from one area but are largely influenced by the other (i.e. Souls series/Dragons Dogma) would go, again coupled with the above hostile tension.
You guys knew that rules mean jackshit if there aren't anybody to enforce it right?All /v/ needs is some kind of effective moderation. Which probably won't happen.
>>5133>I sincerely believe that what has changed in 4chan is not the age of the posters, but the speed of the boards.Basically this. Boards like /tg/ have a natural defense against shitposting in that they have small enough userbases so there aren't enough idiots to keep shitposter threads alive.On /v/ anyone can make a /b/ thread and expect lots of idiots to reply and keep it alive. On /tg/, if you make a /b/ thread you might get one or two replies, but it'll soon die, unless /tg/ choose to roll with the thread facetiously./v/ is far too large. Needs to be split up more.
>>5183see>>5169>>5133Even if we get good moderators it's still a daunting task given how hard it is to moderate fast boards.
There's no point in splitting up /v/. It was already split twice and /vg/ took all the video game threads with it, which is hilarious since everyone thought generals were the problem.
>>5169>Wouldn't everybody just stay at /v1/?Most of us are only on /v/ because we haven't been given other options (/vg/ is even worse). If there were several /v/ boards, some of us would naturally depart from the main one and pick one of the smaller ones. With enough time spent of people bouncing back and forth and forming board cultures, you would soon have each /v/ having a different particular atmosphere and it would be easy to pick one to stay on.
Alright.Say we split /v/ into /v1/ /v2/ /v3/ /v4/Do we re-merge /vg/ and /vp/ back into /v/?Or do they stay seperate?
>>5169I think that the people looking for slow conversations would move to the other boards.
>>5205> /vg/ took all the video game threads with itActually /vg/ only took a few flavour of the month video games with it. Even though the shitposters haven't been gotten rid of, /v/'s a lot better now than it was when the front page was being choked to death by starcrap and fighting garbage.
>>5205>generals were the problem.When it occupied the whole frontpage?Of course it is a fucking problem.>>5197I'd love to see /v/ at least being moderated and not having mods that forcing shitty meme.
>>5213Hm... Interesting. We should (If moot allows this) at least try this as some sort of experiment for a while.
>>5230Either way, we should keep talking about a potential /v/ division on /q/ on a daily basis. When we were just posting meta threads on /v/ people could argue against it but now there is nothing to stop us raising overall awareness of this issue.
OP here. Four boards was just an example: I think /v/ in particular could benefit from being split into more than 4 boards. It's up to the mods and moot to decide what number would really be fitting, but I think it will solve the overall core problem (posting speed)Some people are saying "but it will require more moderators!" No it won't. /v/ needs more mods now as it is. If /v/ is split or if it stays the same, it will need just as many new moderators, so that point is invalid.
>>5213I like this idea, but I don't think they should be named /v1/, /v2/, and so forth. It'd give the impression that the first boards are more important than the last.
>>5280>8 boards>implying /v8/ wouldn't be constantly overrun by vegetable smoothies
>Implying people wouldn't try forcing their favorite /v/ culture in aspects in whatever board they choose as their new home in the first weeks.The forcing would be unbearable.
>>5302Only an idiot would think that. And so, make /v1/ the board with the least moderation!
>>5313dohohohohoAnyway, why not>>>/vm/ - Modern Vidya>>>/vc/ - Classic VidyaModern being current-generation and one gen back.
GLORIOUS /PC/ BOARD
>>5385I kind of wish there was a Classic Animu board.
>>5385or /v//vv//vvv//vvvv//vvvvv//vvvvvv/ etc... or /va/, /vb/, /vc/, /vd/ etc... I had those in aplha beta game etc.. but non ascii text is not allowed.
>>5392We already have a /pc/ board when we called it >>>/g/Why people keep making those Glorious race stuff I never understand
>>5392Yes, go away, you're not welcome on /v/ if you can't discuss anything but how much better your platform is.
>>5392I agree, we need a Precure board.
>>5455most /g/entoomen don't gayme, which is why it's hard to make a good thread there
Why don't we create boards for anything? We can be more like reddits then!
>>5455Expect /v/ knows more about computers than /g/
>/v/ splitted up>/pc/ speaks about computer games>/jv/ speaks about Jgames>/v/ speaks about nothing and cancer, because all good poster went to /pc/ and are left with console wars discussions.
>>5471Just create generic boards and let every poster have janitor powers, but with a 5 minute safe window where people vote on whether to delete it or not.
>>5471That's what I was thinking.All /v/ needs are just fucking janitors and moderators that gave a damn about the board.
>>5485Give OP the power to delete posts in their own thread. Of course, that could just result in MASSIVE circlejerking; it relies on believing the posters on 4chan are responsible, mature adults.
>>5527That's a really bad assumption.
>>5527Haha, oh wow. I hope you're not being serious with that statement.
>>5527>implying that wouldn't create a world where all threads are potentailly trapped and tripfags rule supreme? THough then again, OPs can delete the entire thread anyway.Could work.
>>5482Just like /tg/ knows more about video games than /v/, amirite?
>>5605I would say /tg/ has overall better taste in video games than /v/, but is ironically even worse at playing video games than /v/.
moot will never split up /v/, guess we gotta deal with it. He never gave a fuck about /v/.
>>5648He split /v/ twiceThe first because Pokemon franchise affects two to three boardsThe second I don't understand because /v/ seems to hates video games...
>>5786Creating subject boards =! splitting a board up. The results are completely different.
>>5786Those weren't splits, those were offshoots for relatively small but obnoxious portions of the userbase.A split would be something like console vs PC, each board encompassing a substantial portion of 4chan's video game fans with a wide variety of genres.Not a specific franchise, like Pokemon, nor a few specific games, like /vg/.
ALL OF YOU PEOPLE POSTING /pc/ and /jv/ ARE MISSING THE POINT OF THIS THREAD. NOBODY WANTS THAT FUCKING SHIT, THIS THREAD IS ABOUT CREATING /v1/ and BEYOND.
>>5848>NOBODY WANTS THAT FUCKING SHITNo, you don't want that. I personally think it would help massively.
>>5848> NOBODY WANTS THAT FUCKING SHITLots of us do; we've just refrained from requesting it that much because meta threads aren't allowed.Now we have /q/ though and we can campaign for it all we want.
Overpopulation and post speed are fucking killing the more popular boards of 4chan.If you go to a slow board like /tg/ and make a post, chances are you'll get decent replies most of the time; however, if you go to a fast board like /v/ and make a post, you'll either receive shit replies or no replies (because your damn thread scrolled to page 12 in seconds)A board split (ie v1, v2, v3, v4 NOT pc, vj, vw, v) would be a nice thing to test out. I believe the idea is to reduce posting speed to decrease shitposting and not to segregate PC gamers from console gamers.
>>6121>testIt's been proven many times that most splits will only cause elitism, culture forcing, etc./jp/ is a gigantic mistake because you can't remove a containment unit anymore.
>>6165The idea is that it won't segregate people because they're all the same board with the same rules.
>>6185/jp/ isn't supposed to segregate people yet it's filled with oldfag who can't let go of the fact that the quality of any community is a downward spiral
