I think visual novels should be moved to /vg/
2hu can stay

I think that /jp/ should be 2D/random. Eroge, Touhou, light novels, anime, manga, Japanese games, Japanese language, NEET-related, etc should all be allowed

>>4700
>Anime
>Manga
Because it's not like we already have a board for that.

1. All things otaku welcome!
2. Do not make intentionally shitty posts. (Why is this even a fucking rule? Because /jp/.)

I think /jp/ is fine the way it is.

>>821
I would like pretty much what's indicated here. And I disagree with the notion of turning it into '2D/Random'

All I want is for the people who've been using /jp/ since the split to stay on /jp/. I like those posters, I like their senses of humor, and I like the kind of things they discuss. I really don't give a shit about the rules, I just want to keep posting with the people I've always been posting with.

Any otaku material is welcome unless it already has its own board

>>4740
But what is otaku?

I don't see why /jp/ exists at all.

Right now there are 5 shitpost threads on the front page. I don't care much about the rules, I just want these fucking shitpost to depart. >>4751 the post linked here described them.

As long as it's not Anime or Manga people don't really care what is posted on /jp/, we are talking mostly about posts that would be against the rules everywhere except /b/ and /r9k/.

Light and Visual Novels.
Figures and other otaku paraphernalia.
Touhou Project.
Doujin Games.
Diverse niche japanese interests (trains, idols, headphones, kigurumi...)

/jp/ is not your blog, shitposting dump, travel advisor or personal translation service.

Topic overlap with other boards is acceptable in moderation. This may include anime, cosplay and videogames.

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The problem with /jp is that they think shitpost is perfectly okay if they do it "ironically". Even worse, this mind set is slowly invading other boards.
People really need to stop this.

>>4810
People should not forget to include doujin music as well

>>4780
Then you haven't really spent any time on /jp/. /jp/ is a slow board overall, but there's more meta discussion about /jp/ than there is for boards that are 5x its speed. Know why? Because /jp/ers care about /jp/. We love our board with a passion unknown to posters of many other boards.

Being able to talk with people who have such passion over something that most other people find trivial is the main thing that makes /jp/ fun. If you don't get that then you probably won't have any interest in the board.

>>4723
Anime and manga is still related to otaku. There's also problems when people want to discuss LNs like Jintai and Railgun with anime adaptions. As long as anime and manga don't become the main focus, why should it be outlawed? People like posting anime pictures. I mean, we can talk about MMOs on /v/ and /vg/, but we've had /jp/ guilds before.

>>4810
>Diverse niche japanese interests
This is a good catchall, if a list ever becomes part of the rules.

/jp/ should be a board where we discuss 2hu, VNs, adventure games such as Yume Nikki, Corpse Party, .flow(too good for /a/, /v/ and /vg/), kigurumus, Mahjong, Figs that don't normally fit into other boards AND Light Novels. The latter part does NOT include random shitty anime and mango threads or else we will have the same problems we currently have.

As for rules, anything of the above should be allowed as long as it's not troll or shitty threads.

>>4823
I have always said that the issue with the anime threads in /jp/ is not the topic itself. In fact, we've had plenty of good discussions that can't be found in other boards.
The issue is the spam. Nobody needs another textless screencap thread or homunity.

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>>4780
/jp/ was ironically created to separate the endless touhou threads/general shitposting from /a/.

It worked.

>>4823
>Anime and manga is still related to otaku.
It doesn't matter. We have a separate board where to post those.

Otherwise any "hobby" could go on /jp/, from tanks to trains to anime to cosplay to papercraft to photography, etc...

>>4812

Wasn't that /v/? Or are you implying that is /jp/'s doing too?

>>4839
I would also allow MMO and videogame discussions as long as it's untranslated games OR have a Japanese version.

Trust me on this one, lots of people seem to find it easier to post MMOs in /jp/ than other boards full of retards who have yet to complete MMOs from 2 years ago like Eden Eternal(typical /vg/ thread).

>>4823
I talked about it a bit before, but the problem is that certain people use it as an excuse to dump images of a certain character who is otherwise not /jp/ related, which is a ridiculous excuse especially since the vast majority of pics posted aren't from the LN.

>>4848
/jp/ STARTED the trend, unfortunately.

>>4847
>Otherwise any "hobby" could go on /jp/
how do you feel about 2D/Random then?

>>4828
I was questioning if it would be as vague and useless as the "All things Otaku welcome!" rule, but you know, I think it's better to leave an open topic pool and see if people show genuine interest in other stuff. The point is to restrict the shitposting, not the topics themselves.

>>4848
It started on /jp/ when they start using shitpost as a mechanism to scare off newfag.
Then we have shitpost thread every single fucking day, and people start replying to everything with shitposting.

>>4869
2D/random separated from /jp/

>>4866
From what I recall, /jp/ also started the 'btw im a girl' shit as well as the 'who are you quoting' shit

>>4869
Bad. I don't really want a SFW /b/.
/jp/ is supposed to be a slow board about fringe topics that have no othe rplace to go to.

>>4780
1) The reason /jp/ existed is due to the rampant Touhou Hijack on /a/, /b/ and /v/ along with their obnoxious fanbase. Considering Touhou both has manga and a video game series, you can't get rid of them right away.

Now the touhou fandom are getting more docile than before considering there's not much new content as compared to 2007, which means the Touhou Hijack reason is moot.

2) Another reason why /jp/ existed at all is because of rampant VN threads on /v/. Because idiots can't agree on the difference between a Visual Novels (Saya no Uta), a Date Sim (Love Plus DS) and an Adventure game (Phoenix Wright), and /a/ doesn't want to talk about them unless they have an anime counterpart, there needs a board for VN but VNs in general are too small to have a board for itself, which is why it gets a board along with /jp/

Now recently, with the Cactuar Show Joe causing a /vg/ thread, we can put all those stuff in /vg/ now and no one will argue anymore due to the closed nature of /vg/

>>4866

Frankly, I'm fine with /jp/ ironic shitposting. Shit's very easy to ignore. /v/'s on the other hand..

>>4897
Yeah, I think shitposting is fine as long as it's limited to its own threads. Hide it/filter it and it goes away!

>>4895
Epic troll, dude

>>4904
>Hide it/filter it and it goes away!

More like ignore it and it spreads to other threads.

>>4897
>>4904
Threads are a problem. Responses and pathetic attempts at derailing threads can be ignored. Last week there were at least half the board was made of worthless threads (which stay around instead of disappearing like they would in /v/, because /v/ is fast). This is a thing that happens if the janitor disappears for a day or two.

>>4913
Or it floods frontpage and then we have a global problem, like usually happens nowadays.

This happens to be when Janitor sleeps or is away too.

>>4926
Rather, last week there was a point in time where at least half...

I wish there were a way to get LN-spoilers off of /a/ threads about their anime adaptations. Not that I'm complaining about being spoiled, but I think it creates two separate types of fans, two tracks of conversation, especially for LNs that haven't been translated.

I may just be biased though, I like LNs and wish there were more discussion in general. /a/ only talks about ones with anime, /lit/ wouldn't bother with them even if they could read them, and they don't seem to gain much traction on /jp/ despite the fact that everybody seems to know something about one series or another

>>4810
I still don't see why these stuff can't be discussed in other boards

>figures
>>>/toy/
>touhou
>>>/v/
>doujin games
>games
>>>/v/
>trains
>>>/o/
>idols
>>>/tv/
>headphones
>>>/g/
>kigurumi
>>>/cgl/

I know most of them are slower, but being slow also helps in moderation, y'know?

>>4926
>>4929
>>4943
These posts pretty much sum up the reason why I'm adamantly against shitposting, it's a massive problem and I am sick of constantly seeing /jp/ drowning in its own filth.

Spurdo should be grounds for bannong.

>>4895
>and /a/ doesn't want to talk about them unless they have an anime counterpart
This isn't true at all. While /a/'s taste certainly is far more mainstream than /jp/'s, it certainly isn't limited to "anime only VNs or VNs that are getting an anime".

>>4957
They're slow and often full of new people who can't enjoy these topics.

Your post ended when you mentioned /v/ as an alternative to /jp/ for 2hu threads. No, /v/ doesn't really like us nor 2hu either, some of them would even send you to /vg/ or whatever.

/toy/ is a board that initially had a lot of problem with japanese figurine discussions.

Doujin games are even discussed by /a/, however you should know what kind of bad and/or inexperienced people lurk those threads.

Kigurumi is a strange topic that is not widely accepted and seen as strange in other boards than /jp/.

>>4957
>>idols
>>>/tv/
I fucking snorted my milk. Thanks for that.
Those boards are mostly for western content, whereas /jp/ puts them into an eastern and anime context. Honestly, I think the best board for all that stuff is /a/, simply because /a/ already contains all of it already.

How about having moderator's' that gave a damn about the board?

And by 'gave a damn' I didn't mean strictly enforcing rule and shit.

I find the threads and posts that you people always call "off-topic" to be the most entertaining. We've had a period where there was very strict moderation going on and it was boring as hell. I don't want /jp/ to be a Pooshlmer 2.

My suggestion is to split /jp/ into "Doujin Games" (SFW) and "2D/Random" (NSFW). Then if I want a semi-serious discussion about Touhou I'll go to /dg/ and when I want to talk about random stuff with the people I like I can use the other board.

>>4990
Also, /v/ has been hating on us for quite a while. You should know this by now, it's been like that since /jp/'s creation, a really sad situation.

>>4999
There is no janitor that deletes as many threads as ours does

>>4999
The point of this thread is to discuss rules for /jp/ so those rules can be enforced in the first place.

>>4972
But then, until /vg/ appears, it encouraged /v/ to shove most VN to /a/ just because pretty much the popular VN have an anime.

Now we have /vg/, /jp/ is just about Touhou, which can be discussed on /v/ as well.

>>4990
>/v/ doesn't really like us nor 2hu either
/v/ are a bunch of idiots. You can dump 2hu pictures all you want and they can't do anything about it because you're still dumping video game contents.

>>4991
Saying
>Those boards are mostly for western content
is similar to saying
>4chan is for western content
when, if we look at the whole picture, 4chan should be all about eastern context with a few western stuff for bored people

Why you people get pushed with the new people I don't comprehend.

>>5051
>/v/ are a bunch of idiots. You can dump 2hu pictures all you want and they can't do anything about it because you're still dumping video game contents.

Yeah, this is true, I've seen all kinds of cases and stuff like this can happen, however, the common thing to happen is that the non-"weeaboo" friendly part of /v/ will sperg out and call you names while sending you to other boards or do other unkind actions.

I also don't feel like going there to discuss anything given that the average user has the intelligence of a rock.

We can't go to /v/. 2hu is to /v/ as MLP is to /co/. It just doesn't work.

/jp/'s rules are fine, it's the quality of moderation that is the main issue. I understand not having a mod or a janitor on 24/7 because that's a silly request, but when the same "pedos and loli is teh same!!!" thread has been up for the last two days when it has nothing to do with anything otaku-culture related is ridiculous. There are also times where we go hours and hours at a time with "ironic" threads that have taken almost the entirety of the front page over.

>>5075
Sounds like /jp/ ought to fit right in on /v/.

>>5075
TL;DR: If we had to move to any of those boards, it would be like starting /jp/ or pre-/jp/ all over again.

Dumb people, people who don't want these topics in first post of frontpage, misinformation, bad posts...etc.

>>5109
You might actually think that way, but that isn't really true. /jp/ doesn't have insane furries dumping their atrocious porn in out threads, ponies, some dudes trying to hijack with western shit or constant feel/greentext posts...

This is also a big problem going on in /vg/ at the moment, even in the most related threads such as League of Legends generals.

All of the other boards have even worse people and generally broader bad posters.

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>>5084
>/mlp/
If the ponyhumpers started to simmer down with their shitposting, we could have them back to /co/ after a decade or two. The whole /mlp/ board is unhealthy for culture-preserving.
The only reason why the /mlp/ stuff blow up on 4chan is because the pony-trolling concept backfired on /b/

The truth of the matter is, I'm not sure what to do with /vp/ or why I was happy Pokemon got its own board back then other than the fact that some Pokemon has such a large franchise it deserves its own board, only then when you realize /v/ doesn't discuss about any video games after Pokemon while /vp/ is full of pokeporn and cancerous roleplaying while there's no new content from then other than Smogon and Pokemon weekly anime.

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>>4780

It's a quarantine for the super-autists (wich 2hu wuld u fuk, suck my cock dude, i have 10 bottles of piss, wat do, etc) , crossdressers (pic related), HRTfags (aka IM A WOMAN IN A MANS BODY UGUU), and weeaboos who think Japan > *.

Pic related, average /jp/ goer, just add 150 more pounds. (I'm looking at you Kyonko-chan).

It's also home to the worst tripfags ever: Suigin, Smochi, Taiga, and Lanced Jack.

>>5017
I doubt you can tell. You could delete a thread in /v/ every five minutes and most people probably wouldn't even notice the shit disappearing.

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>>5216
>It's a quarantine for weeaboo
And this is why 4chan is such a QUALITY site

By the way, a bit irrelevant but funny and retarded, there is a bunch of people trying to discuss Digimon and Saint Seiya in /m/, even if they should go to /a/, beg moot for a board, or [spoiler]create their own board[/spoiler].

I really really don't feel like associating ourselves with that kind of move even though it reminds me of ourselves before we split from /a/.

>>5216
This is exactly what I don't want /jp/ to be.

>>5176

Ponies are the 2hu of the West.

Full of autism, porn, and fanfiction.

>>5233

I mean weeaboo as in the REAL definition, liking anime and manga is fine, but being "Ken-sama" or thinking that anything Japan shits out is gold is weeaboo.

>>5240

/jp/ in itself is a niche board. Futaba surely doesn't have an America board.

>>5231

Semi-off tipic, /v/ isn't as bad as people make it seem. 95% of the board is video game related, 5% of it is culture. I'm okay with that. Every board has that, even /a/ with their incest threads.

>>5176
>/vp/ is full of pokeporn and cancerous roleplaying
Actually, after the crackdown, that shit pretty much dissipated. Pokeporn threads have pretty much died out, and roleplaying is kept to Team Rocket bullshit, which is much easier to hide than what went on before.

>>5284
>/jp/ in itself is a niche board. Futaba surely doesn't have an America board.

/jp/ is not a "Japan" board

>>4690
ban this stupid faggot

>>5318

>/jp/
>japan

Might as well rename it /otk/

>>5284
>Ponies are the 2hu of the West.

>/v/ isn't as bad as people make it seem

>using cultureshit

Spoken like a true faggot.

>>5233
So uh, why are /n/ and flash in that section anyway? Doesn't want to break the even structure?

Ban anyone who makes a mention of Corea. Also ban that one stupid faggot who keeps spammin those ugly K-pop gooks.

>>5336
>/jp/ - Otaku Culture

/jp/ will never have any rules. Because it's made of a bunch of groups that hate it's other.

>Let's exile idolfags, weeaboo, hardcore 2dfags, and ridiculous elitists to a single board! said moot

And then he blames the community when the only threads that don't get viciously attacked are shitposts that aren't worth the effort.

The sheer split between "make these the rules" "no those rules suck, use these" should clue moot into the fact that he's fucked up and should have made the board focus more narrow, but in the end this thread will accomplish nothing.

1. Most things Japanese popular culture welcome!
2. Anime and manga threads belong in /a/.
3. Non-doujin video game threads belong in /v/.
4. Threads about the Japanese language belong in /int/ or /lang/.
5. Replying to trolling and/or shitposting will result in a ban. This will be severely punished and strictly enforced.

>>5360
I don't agree with your first suggestion because MMO threads are bound to mention Korea and Japan at the same time. /tv/ has and should cover gook idol discussions though, I totally agree with your second suggestion and they should cover gooks, not us.

>>5360
Why not ban the idolfags as well? We never wanted them.

>>5416
Because they don't really have their own board and /tv/ doesn't seem to like Japanese actress/idols as much as gook ones.

It's also bound to fit with the Otaku Culture theme since most of them are animu girl VAs.

>>5437
>Because they don't really have their own board
So what? They never had one before /jp/ was created either. We have no obligation to cater to them. They just saw their chance to discuss their shit here and came over from other sites.

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/jp/ is for truNEETs and the activities they enjoy. This includes fugging 2hus, playing visual novels, shitting on the floor, meta discussion, and anything else related to otaku culture that is not anime or video games.

>>5284
>weaboo
>REAL definition
Nobody shares your sentiment, man

>>5360

>weeaboo who faps to momusu
>calling anything else ugly

lel

Leave /jp/ alone please.

>>5462
I will have to repeat what I said after that.

Yes, they went to our board, but they're like a part of us now and idol shit has been in pre-split /a/ quite a few times too.

We can't do anything about that, sorry, we'll have to ignore them at best.

No bullying, /jp/ is for my friends.

>>5472

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>>5416
Because they've been here for four years, all but one of the posters are polite and ignorable, most could be considered otaku, and they hardly ever have three or more threads up at a time.

Nothing needs to change on /jp/ in regard to content specification.

You can't fix a board with moderation and a list of kosher topics of discussion, if anything this and the ensuant bickering are making things worse.
/jp/'s user base must fix /jp/ by not shitting where they eat.

>>5464
touhou is a video game, though

>>5505
Weeaboo now:
>I like anime and manga. my favorite video game is Dark Souls because it's similar to Skyrim except harder

>HOLY SHIT THE FUC GET OUT OF OUR AMERICAN BORED WEEBOO

How about letting people talk what they want to talk about and ignoring things you don't like?

>>5489
Well, I suppose I can accept that they will always be around, but this expanding with threads about other 3D shit lately has to stop, like the K-Pop stuff you mentioned. 2 or 3 idol threads at the same time tops. Christ, lately it's been so bad at times the entire first page was full of 3D. Also because of those stupid cross-dressing fetishists.

>>5507
This. I liked people like Reinya, they were also victims of terrible posters even if they had a wide knowledge of the board and were nice.

People like Aya Hirano fan and King of /jp/(probably the same homosexual in disguise, at least with similar tastes in idols) need to get the fuck out though.

>>5551
Why don't you use 4chanX. Are you an Opera user or something.

>>5551
Cross-dressing is /jp/ related.

In all honesty I would like a K-pop board to stop the spamming in /jp/ (Because honestly we can't stop them until a true banning method is reached)

Also force anon /jp/ is too immature to handle tripfags (Aka ignore them) and give us decent moderation that comes around more than once a day to deal with the racism and steam shitposting groups.(There are MANY people on /jp/ with enough free time and love of the board to do it)

Also I would like the Anime and NSFW posters to go.

>>5549
Yeah because that's working so well for /b/ right?

>>5587
That's not really true unless the crossdressers are actually Japanese.

They should go to some other board.

>>5588
>racism

Aww, do racially insensitive terms hurt your feelings?

>>5588
>In all honesty I would like a K-pop board to stop the spamming in /jp/

I'm sure there's going to be a /kr/ board.

>>5595
The board isn't called Japan General anymore, it's Otaku Culture. Cross-dressing is related to otaku culture.

>>5616
Oh really? Tell me more.

What kind of traps are actually /jp/ related and are idols?

>>5589
It definitely wouldn't work on a fast board like /b/

>>5616
if you want to argue Semitics then most of /tg/ counts as otaku culutre

>>5549
NO! You must be a shitposter. When the janitor is absent, 50% of the WHOLE board is worthless shitposting.

>>5654

>argue Semitics

>>5654
Most of _anything_ counts as otaku culture because it's anyone with an obsessive interest. This is why "All things otaku welcome!" is a dumb rule, and brings us back to the original post.

>>5654
I can't say I agree to this since not all of /tg/ is "weeaboo" land. We also have casual and hardcore west gamers who look like they came out of neo-/b/.

>>5643
Idols fans keep to their threads and don't bother anyone. As far of cross-dressing goes, camwhoring is not allowed, but talking about buying girl clothes and the like is perfectly acceptable.

>>5643
I can't really think of a reason besides that it's a niche interest of people who are obsessed with cute girls and Futaba has a trap board. It's a stretch, really.

>>5678
It's not worthless

>>5680
I examined his sentence for a solid minute hoping to find a subtle jew joke

Just delete /jp/ already.

>>5699
I'm not really unhappy with the idea of crossdressing posts even though it's not my thing.

I just find it strange someone actually likes that kind of thing AND wants /jp/ to cover it.

>>5724
If you're weirded out by cross-dressing you don't belong on /jp/.

>>5714
>It's not worthless
>>>/jp/9539761
How is this not worthless?

>>5735
Sure I do. I just hide in my 2hu and VN threads, I don't give a fuck about that kind of thing in /jp/.

We all seem to have a...unique reason, to be in /jp/.

Crossdressing is too lewd for a SFW board.

>>5692
What are you not getting that makes you think that Otaku=Weeaboo?(I suspect you think it only includes anime and Japanese stuff in which case you would be wrong the most common type of otaku is the car otaku)

>>5753
Thank you for making me read that thread. I laughed 4 times.

>>5771
As in /tg/ being all "weeaboo" or whatever.

>>5714
>It's not worthless
How is >>>/jp/9539854 worth anything?

>>5753
That's a good thread. It gave me a chuckle.

>>5788
Looks like it might have been intended to be a mazacon thread.

Well, I'm not a fan of that either, but it might not be shitposting for the sake of shitposting.

>>5753
>>5788
You can cherry pick threads all you like. There are terrible threads on every board, because any human being with an internet connection can create a thread.

The difference is, /jp/ is elitist and capable of ignoring those threads, so the trolls end up going unfed and who am I kidding I'm just lying to myself at this point

Please change the name of the board to something different. "Otaku culture" sounds horrible. The board took a nose dive ever since the name change bringing unwanted people who turned /jp/ into their shitposting playground.
Even "Japan/General" was better than this.

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Half of the people complaining about the problems on /jp/
Don't understand this where the same problems from day one.

Changing the name to Otaku culture did actually help a little in the end.

Its just people often have nostalgia googles on and imagine the past was better.

Also the steam group is just 3-5 people who actually do post on /jp/ , most of them are just lurking /jp/ and nothing more.


and the last thing.

Half of the problems can be solved by ignoring threads or posts you don't like.

>>5822
/jp/ is full of these threads, everyday. That is the point

>>5822
This is exactly why we need mods around to instaban spammers, raiders, and possible ban evaders. We've had too many and it's time for them to move to another board like squidy did with /m/ group.

>>5834
Oh look, it's king of NERDS.

>>5834
Fuck you and your worthless Diablo 3 thread. You are part of the problem.

>ITT we discuss ideas for improvements to /jp/'s rules

Huh.

>>915 got it mostly right. There is a really dedicated group of users that shit up the board and are responsible for a great amount of shitposting.

>>5735
Shut up, if you insist on this TRUNEET SEKRIT CLUB XD you're the one that doesn't belong there, shitposter. I agree with >>5753, it's *completely* worthless. And crossdressing isn't related to /jp/.

About idols, they can stay because they're related to otaku culture and they stay in their threads, which aren't more than 2 or 3.

Just look at the front page right now:
>>>/jp/9537261
>>>/jp/9539807
>>>/jp/9537195

Fucking delete this shit and BAN the people who make these threads.

>>5834
>Anonymous ## Mod, Oct 9, 2011
>That braindead piece of shit is permabanned. Never reply to its diarrhea. CLOSED.

>>5858
I don't think Blizzard translates any of their games into Japanese anymore and even if they did, their interest isn't that high and we won't be able to play with them anytime soon.

Why would anyone post that in /jp/?

>>5834
>Half of the problems can be solved by ignoring threads or posts you don't like.
I've had several threads on /jp/ bumped off the board because of the shitposting flood that goes on. That's something I can't exactly 'ignore'. And when half of the board needs to get nuked on an almost daily basis, you know it isn't any normal problem

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The only things I find useful in there are translation status threads and comiket shit (and that's rare as fuck).

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>>5858
I deleted that thread myself
also please refrain in future from using the word " fuck" it doesn't make your post look better.

>>5699
jlist advertises shimapan all the time. I'm pretty sure they aren't selling it to women or normals.

>>5873
Those threads are funny.

>>5892
>I've had several threads on /jp/ bumped off the board because of the shitposting flood that goes on.
You can usually fix it yourself if you don't sleep more than eight hours at a time.

>>5857
Reminder that ignoring King of /jp/ and his autistic posts is a must to survive in current /jp/.

>>5876
I am talking about this garbage.

http://fuuka.warosu.org/jp/thread/S9539715

>>5834
Fuck off

I don't understand why you guys are so upset about those threads. Why ARE you browsing /jp/ anyway? You don't seem like you go there very often, complaining about stuff like that, so I'm curious.

>>5834
>>5902
Take your nostalgia googles with you when you leave.

>>5912
Yes, I was just pondering, why would anyone bother to ask /jp/ for a high cost game that isn't even japanese related?

>>5932
He's a serial spammer/troll/blogger.

Some people just like to post about things on /jp/ because "all my friends are here".

>>5932
>>5876
Boredom usually leads too shitposting.

>>5905
Those threads are shit and nowadays an absurd percentage of threads are like that. Judging by your posts here you're the type of scum that needs to be get out of there.

>>5928
Because we're trying to improve the board we enjoy that a bunch of idiots are ruining on a daily basis?

>>5928
>I don't understand why you guys are so upset about those threads
Too much is too much.

>>5946
>>5951
Yes, I know, I've seen what his posts are like before they're purged.

I just find it funny that he mentioned the Steam group and actually dares to post that kind of shit in the board. I think there are far more interested people in there than actual board.

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why is this thread full of people who don't even post on /jp/

please go back to /a/ and leave our board alone

the only problem we have is some shitposting now and then that NSJ cleans up nicely but sometimes deletes stuff that should be acceptable

``Stop trying to ruin our board!!''

- /jp/, 2012

Just filter him.
He doesn't deserve any acknowledgement..

>>5960
I am a poster of extremely high quality.

If my guidelines were followed (>>5464) /jp/ would be an instant paradise and a new golden age would be upon us.

>>5976
Please, leave this thread. You're the kind of poster we want to get rid of, with your shitty pics and signature posts.

>>5928
I like touhou and related media, as well as untranslated VNs and eroge, and /jp/ is the only place I can talk about them.

>>5976
>the only problem we have is some shitposting now and then
>now and then
made me laugh

>>4810
Can we use these rules for /jp/? This seems very reasonable.

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While it's clear what kind of content is generally acceptable on /jp/, it needs its borders to be a bit more specific, I generally dislike metathreads with no purpose or direction (/jp/ pissing in bottles tier), however I'm totally okay with actual discussion, asking opinions, or inviting others to play osu! or something.

The content should be clarified before we can agree on what kind of moderation we want. I don't think splitting the board or calling it 2D/Random is gonna solve things.

>>5995
And 15 pages for VNs is not enough right? After all, the board is literally filled up with them!

>>6016
I agree with you sir. I like those kind of posts that actually discuss out of boundary stuff that's actually interesting.

We already have MMO threads so anything related to otaku culture with actual context is better than shitpost.

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>>4810
I like this, this makes sense.

>>6024
I don't know what are you on about.

We only have one VN general thread except in rare cases where VN status change happens and/or new VNs have their separate and rightful threads to not impede actual untranslated or old VN discussion.

>>6024
The point is I don't want to see filler posts with 'wich 2hu wuld u fuk' or idiotic NEET blogging, especially when they become prevalent. And as for the 'literally filled with them' part, there is only one active VN thread at a time most of the time, and that's the VN general thread. /jp/ should NOT have a VN general thread, they should be able to talk about each game in their own specific threads without the fear of them getting bumped off the front page and neglected, or even bumped off the entire board, by shit threads.

/jp/ is fine.
Here's a little hint for you guys: if you only stay on the front page, you're going to have a pretty shitty time. You have to actively search for the threads you like and hide the ones you don't. It takes a little bit of effort, but this is the way it's always been on /jp/.

>>6068
There's other exceptions, by the way, but those are mostly shitposters trying to shit with a poorly disguised VN thread, such as the S;G threads we had recently, asking us why we "hate" it.

>>5960
>idiots are ruining
My question is why it matters what percentage of /jp/ is shitposting, as long as your relevant interests fit there.

>>5995
So talk about them then. If there's no thread up (search the archive/catalog to find out!) and you want to talk, make one and leave it open. You never have to see those terrible threads you hate again.

I believe changing /jp/'s rules or moderation will cause more harm than good. If you don't like something, ignoring it is the best option. Why waste your time complaining about it?

Actually I think I'm starting to understand. You guys >>6090
still don't know how to use the catalog or archives?

>>6016
Yeah I agree. Like I mentioned previously (check IDs) the rules themselves aren't that important. People can talk about stuff as long as it doesn't have its own board, and is related to "Otaku" culture. + MMOs

>I generally dislike metathreads with no purpose or direction (/jp/ pissing in bottles tier)
These are the fucking problem.

>>6119
Given that one of them can't ignore idol or VN threads and thinks "off-topic threads are funny", I don't even think they use 4chan X which is mandatory to browse /jp/.

>>6016
Very true, definition of the content on /jp/ is needed now that the board is populated. Going to need a miracle to get some people to read the rules though.

>>6096
This. We used to have a mantra that you had to use all the pages for /jp/. Now we have Catalogs and Galleries and whatnot, so it's even easier. Since we (still) have a strong culture of condensing threads, choose to see threads as self-contained "boards". Stick to the ones you like. I hang out (mostly lurking) in the STG, VN, VNTS, denpa and doujin music threads, and my experience couldn't be any better. You'd have to be a masochist to actively click on threads you don't like, or type replies to threads you don't want on /jp/.

>>6119
Oh I know about the archives and catalog alright. It's how I discovered how bad you people really are. I knew shitposters were prevalent but after I dug around the archives I saw how bad it truly was.

>>4810
I could get behind this. I wish idols were just gone but they condense their threads so it's tolerable.

>>6119
>My question is why it matters what percentage of /jp/ is shitposting, as long as your relevant interests fit there.
First, because I don't want, say, the Comiket fangames thread to 404 while I sleep because I didn't wake up after six hours to bump it again. Second, because having two thirds of the board be retarded shit is an eyesore and encourages people to bring that attitude everywhere.

I generally do like the way /jp/ is. I just would like to see a firmer stance on NSFW content.

>>4810
This is quite good. Someone should forward this to moot.

>>5464
I like your style.
How do we get those bloggers and self pity whiners out though? They thought we are serious about floorshitting and piss bottles and now they wont leave.

>>5976
You're one of the worst shitposters there, nanairo, you don't even need a trip to be recognized. Shitting up the board 14 hours a day and posting pics and videos of your cock.

>>5990
/jp/ is not for your shitty forced memes.

The problem with /jp/ is that shitposting is completely out of control, we wouldn't complain about the usual meta/off-topic thread, but if more than half of the threads are pure shit something needs to be done.

>>6119
>My question is why it matters what percentage of /jp/ is shitposting, as long as your relevant interests fit there.
Are you really asking this? Would you be alright with shitposting being 95% of /jp/ as long as there's a 5% of on-topic content?

I agree with >>2814 from the other thread:
>But the even bigger problem is /jp/'s use and somewhat "acceptance" of "ironic" shitposting. You can see this in posts that use *actions* such as "*grabs dick*"

It's become so widespread even regular obvious shit threads get replies.

>>4892
I agree with this guy. I don't really think defining strictly the boundaries of topicality on /jp/ is really necessary because people seem to get it (>>4810, >>6128), though it would help if they were clearly stated on the FAQ or the rules page.

And I still think creating a NSFW /nij/ - Random/2D board would contribute to improving quality.

>>6317
Condensed NEET/hikikomori threads. One at a time, and they're the only threads where people are allowed to discuss themselves and their issues in that way.

I know a lot of people don't like the idea of them existing in the first place, but they have been on /jp/ since day one. moot even listed so ronery ;_; threads as something he was trying to get out of /a/ by making /jp/, and to be honest the typical blog thread on /jp/ is way better than those were.

>>6317
Please, stop, /jp/ is not going well with your shitty NEET memes. That's not even funny or original.

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I don't even know what /jp/ is for,
to be honest.

>>6403
Then don't post here.

>>6403
What the official title says. Otaku Culture.

That was easy.

>>6403
Otaku Culture, obviously.

>>6016
>The content should be clarified before we can agree on what kind of moderation we want.
It's easy, no random 2D /a/b/v/ crap. Niche topics, with no board of their own, only.

>>6353
What are you talking about?
I hate those threads.
I dont think anyone actually enjoy those /adv/ or /r9k/ esque threads. They do not belong on /jp/.
The difference between the current threads and the old joke floorshitting/holeupinmybasement threads of old is huge.

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>>6403
Here's a piece of history.

>>6439
That's just like your opinion d00d.

Anonymous ## Mod
08/08/12(Wed)11:55
No.6465

Anonymous ## Mod 08/08/12(Wed)11:55 No.6465

All right, does anyone have any rules we can try to implement? I've skimmed through the thread but I only see bickering.

>>6451
I enjoyed them when we got them once or twice a week.

>>6465
see >>4751 please

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>>6403

/jp/ was /a/'s containment board, like /mlp/ is to /co/ and /vp/ and /vg/ are to /v/. It astounds me when people post Touhou on /a/ nowadays claiming that /a/ and /jp/ used to get along, there has never been any love between those two boards.

>>6465
Just leave /jp/ as it is

More rules will only restrict even more our already small allowed content
/jp/ is perfect and anybody that cries about it are either shitposters or new kids trying to fit in along with the board police

>>6451
Stop
typing
like
this

Holy shit.

I really don't see big differences since it's about the same, people actually discussing this seriously and some others just pretending. I don't like shitting on my floor and I don't know what kind of insane man wants to discuss that.

And you're not Sniper, stop creating jarate out of bottles. I do admit shitting myself every now and then but that's in a lower level and not as disgusting.

>>6465
Kick western ugly /cgl/, /soc/, /adv/ & /r9k/ threads out.
I have no other complain besides this.

>>6465
Visual Novels
Light Novels
Doujin Games & Works
Touhou
Figures

>>6465

>>4810 was a pretty approach to on-topic content. Just enforce the rules and delete off-topic shit.

Look:

>>>/jp/9539973
>>>/jp/9540002
>>>/jp/9540010
>>>/jp/9540015
>>>/jp/9539909
>>>/jp/9539629
>>>/jp/9540029

For fucks sake, seriously. I know the front page is usually the worst, but that's 7 threads out of 15. We need more janitors, moderators and bans.

>>6465
Niche otaku stuff without a board of its own.

>>6465

Banning off-topic shitposter.

Oh wait, we already have that rule.

Not that there's going to be anyonre around enforcing it anyway.

>>6465
>>4810 is probably the best we're going to get.

>>6504
a pretty good approach*

>>6465
I wrote >>5402 but mostly as a joke.
People like >>4810 but it needs to be rewritten so it sounds like actual rules.

>>6465
Some seem to like >>4810 , others don't think we really need a rule change as long as we get regular moderator visits: "As long as it's not Anime or Manga people don't really care what is posted on /jp/, we are talking mostly about posts that would be against the rules everywhere except /b/ and /r9k/," as >>4789 said.

>>6465
/jp/ has a lack of moderation, not a lack of rules.

The /jp/ janitor basically shows up once a day to delete all the shitposting. That's not an effective strategy.

You could try to penalize reddit style shitposting. Hell, you should do that for all the boards.

>>4751
>Light Novel discussion, with the qualifier that the threads need to actually be discussing Light Novels, not just dumps of images from the anime adaptation.

I am sorry but this is absolutely retarded.
If Touhou imagedumps are allowed why can't light novel characters image dumps be allowed too?

Sounds like you're just crying because of people posting Saten.

>>6503
Also keep /jp/ SFW. Please for the love of god do it.

>>6514
>acceptable in moderation
This alone make the whole post pointless.

>>6529
>/jp/ has a lack of moderation, not a lack of rules.

This.

>>6465

basically this one
>>4810
with
>>4818

>>6532
Saten was *spammed*. Actually flooded. We're talking upwards of 5 pages. So no, she can fuck right off. She's a manga character anyway.

>>4780
I thought the purpose of /jp/ was clear enough. It's up to the userbase to stop shitting in its own playground. It doesn't matter how you define /jp/ if the userbase cannot agree with itself as to what /jp/ encompasses.

hxxp://www.4chan.org/rules#imgboard
>All things otaku welcome!

hxxp://cerealexperiments.com/jprules.php
>Welcome, new user to /jp/ - Otaku Culture! Hah, just kidding, this isn't Otaku Culture. This is Touhou/Visual Novels/Doujin Games.
>Finally, if you want to talk about Japanese history and culture, go somewhere else, nobody here knows or cares for that stuff. /jp/ was created as a board to get rid of Touhou and visual novels from /a/, it was never intended to be a board about Japanese culture. Most of the users here don't care about Japan, we only care about lolis and doujin games.

hxxp://zh.wikipedia.org/zh-tw/4chan
>(Translation) moot split /a/ in two, with /a/ for anime and manga, and /jp/ for other related content... the content of /jp/ includes but is not limited to light novels, visual novels, galge, eroge, doujin culture, Touhou, doujin games, doujin music, bishoujo figurines...

>>6529
200% of the shitposters know how to evade bans. I don't see how you could penalize them.

>>6560
>cerealexperiments.com/jprules.php

Forgot about these. If you strip out the examples and Suigin's own opinions, they would be a decent framework for some proper rules.

>>6561
Everybody knows how to do that. Do you think you want to wait 2 minutes each time?

Bans take the piss out of trolling.

>>6557
Jesus what a crybaby.

Would it make you happier if one of the new rules was to prohibit Saten on /jp/?
I want to post images of my favorite light novel characters like you do to touhou too.

>>6465
No blogs or other metathreads without purpose or direction or an actual topic. It'll be a bit tricky to enforce however, "wch cokc wd usuk" being unacceptable vs "wch 2hu wd u dance wit" being a possibly okay thread.

>>4810
Here's a pretty nice clarification of topics, but I don't think it's entirely needed for the board, it'll limit future possible topics, perhaps.

>>6532
Neither that post nor my own said any names.

>>6555
Please dont limit /jp/ topics.
What /jp/ should have are rules stating what isnt allowed.

>>6511
This is also good, as I've said the problems aren't so much the boundaries of on-topic content as the actual blatant shitposting.

>>6465

>>4839
>>4863

Take notes of my post about MMOs too.

>>6560
By the way, are there any other "self-proclaimed /jp/ guidelines" out there that I have missed?

>>6465
Use this as rules of /jp/ please:

Light and Visual Novels.
Figures and other otaku paraphernalia.
Touhou Project.
Doujin Games.
Diverse niche japanese interests (trains, idols, headphones, kigurumi...)

/jp/ is not your blog, shitposting dump, travel advisor or personal translation service.

Topic overlap with other boards is acceptable in moderation. This may include anime, cosplay and videogames.

>>4863
>I would also allow MMO and videogame discussions as long as it's untranslated games OR have a Japanese version.
Now you're just trolling.

>>6587
Alright, let's go with that.

First of all: reddit style posting.

It's got to go. You can tell it apart because they usually have an emoticon at the end or they have a stupid reddit image.

>>6579
No, it would make me happy if you were banned for posting a manga character outside of the manga board.

It's no different to the mods deleting Uzumaki Naruto dumps, except they weren't used to flood the board (and later as a shitposting macro).

>>6592
>>4702

And this, which was mentioned earlier.

>>6582
>wch 2hu wd u dance wit
This should only be acceptable if the OP can actually manage to type it correctly.

>>6602
Needs to be rewritten as actual rules by someone. Read the rules page. They're not all imperatives or even proper statements, but they're at least complete sentences. Something like: "This is the appropriate board for the discussion of..."

>>6602
read >>6587
and >>6539

People are banned all the time on /jp/. Why do people think that there is no moderation on the board? Heavier moderation is not needed and would not lead to better posting.

>>6606
He seems to want to make a list where everything people ever discussed is acceptable besides cocksucking and stuff like that.

>>6606
Please, stop with the tears. It's been a long time topic and it has to stay.

It's not worse than idol, crossdressing and "wich 2hu fuk". They have been mostly condensed into one big thread and nobody complains about PSO2 being played by /jp/ but shitposters.

>>4702
>>6611
NOPE
Stop trying to force Suigin rules here.
Most of them aren't even applicable.

>>6465
>>4810 or >>821 covers it with a tweak or two.

>>6633
It obviously doesn't have to stay. People were fine with it but once you codify the rules there's no way to shoehorn it in there without literally saying "MMOs go here."

>>4678
make posting toohoo outside of /jp/ a bannable offense just like posting ponyshit outside of /mlp/

>>6633
I am not complaining about MMOs on /jp/.

I am complaining about the >untranslated games OR have a Japanese version.
part. Several western MMOs were popular on /jp/ like World of Tanks

>>6644
Yes, it's going to be a bit confusing at first but I think Japanese only MMOs like PSO2 deserve to stay, at least until they're translated and become more mainstream.

/jp/ related because I'm playing on Japanese servers.