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It's pretty easy to see that he waifu and creepy pedophilia are problems on /tv/, but if they're removed it would just become a Games of Throne board or BrBa, etc. Flavor of the month TV show board.

Not to mention it would become painfully slow.

How to solve this problem?

>I made this topic earlier but 4chanX ate it
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when game of thrones rolls around again im lobbying to get a sticky made sunday evenings that last until monday afternoon or so just to cut down on the amount of threads being made nonstop during that time
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>>220
Probably a good idea. It would certainly curtail everything into one nice topic.
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Actually if they're removed maybe some of the people like me who actually talked about movies would come back and there would be more varied threads
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>>192
Well you could stop participating in it for one and try to start threads on other topics instead.
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>>263
I don't participate. I needed an image to post and this was the most relevant image I could think of. Sorry if it upset you.


>>257
See, I was thinking of the ramification of doing that but I honestly don't think /cel/ would make it as a board. It would probably be a shitty version of /hr/
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>>271
someone actually made a /cel/ on another site, or made the site for /cel/

anyway all of the waifufags on /tv/ know it exists but they don't post there because it doesnt cause any butthurt and is thus no fun for them
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>>288
That's not particularly accurate.

/tv/ allows everyone to hang out and mess around, talk about movies, actresses, etc. It has high traffic, so there's always someone to talk to about something.

/cel/ is just a place to go. It has very little traffic, and everyone there pretty much knows everyone else, so it's more like a regular forum than a chaotic image board.
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>>271
I'm not upset at all. I just assumed that you were involved in it considering the timestamp on that image.

If there were a celebrity board for image dumps, waifu shit and I guess gossip if those people every actually take the time to get their hands of their dicks and type, things might get better.
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>>314
so they have a place to dump all their new images of emma stones feet, it doesn't belong on /tv/

i have no problem with discussing actresses and their careers, but /tv/ isn't for sharing images of your waifu eating or talking about how much you want to drink their piss
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>>321
I don't recall ever seeing people gossip on /tv/ besides calling other peoples favorites whores, except for debacles every so often like the Steward thing.

What bothers me most is that people will make, say, an Emma thread--it'll get 100 posts or so but then get deleted and they'll just make it again "hue hue you mad mods?" and that just clogs up the board.

Don't get me wrong, I want them to split, but I fear excluding dozens of topics about whatever is the "cool" /tv/ show to watch the board will be slower than /po/
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>>328
would you say waifu threads and image dumps of anime characters don't belong on /a/?
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>>328
> /tv/ isn't for sharing images of your waifu eating or talking about how much you want to drink their piss

It sort of is. I can understand why you don't like having to see it (and oversexualization of even of-age actresses can go too far), but it's what keeps snooty people away.

Also, there are never more than 10% actress threads on /tv/, as opposed to ~20% spam, reposts, feel threads, random threads, etc. I know which of those two *I* would keep around, and it's not Crab Legs or "Golly, chaps, innit a trifle warm in the old England?"
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>>348
I don't know if they gossip or not. I assume it happens at some time. But I have the self-control to not open threads and complain when people start something that is technically inline with the board that I don't like.
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>>348
I think a combination of /tv/ getting a rule similar to /v/'s basically advising people not to post new threads for topics that there are already threads about, and also this >>302 so when janitors delete your game of thrones thread they can direct you to the one that was already around, could be really helpful in cutting down on a million threads about one show and also encourage people to post more varied threads as they will be easier to find
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>>361
It keeps snooty people away?
The general insult on /tv/ seems to be pleb.
How is that not snooty?
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>>378
Yes!
1. Content should pertain to television shows, movies, actors/actresses, film equipment, etc.
2. Please refrain from reposting. If possible, try to skim the board for threads pertaining to your topics/info that may have already been posted.
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>How to solve this problem?
wordfilters
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>>394
That seems a little too big brother in my opinion.

Best idea so far imo is the sticky thread for the big shows, GoT, Brba.

A rule thread like on /tg/ might be good too
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>>393
i proposed a rule to moot a few weeks ago that is basically

3. "Waifu/Husbando" threads are not permitted. Discussion of actresses/actors should be focused on their acting, career, and characters.

he said "sure"

but who knows.
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>>394
I wouldn't be opposed to having "waifu" in the OP autosage the thread.

>>432
See, the problem with that is that 4chan is an imageboard, not a discussion board. Read what /tv/ is supposed to be, /tv/ rule #1: "Content should pertain to", NOT "Discussion should".......

The comment field is optional.
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>>425
Cluttering a board with stickies is not the way to go. Even if there are 15 threads a page now, it still clutters up the page and reduces the amount of possible conversations you can see and might be interested in.

Plus, I am not sure about how popular these threads are, but having them stickied would take it into the thousands of posts which can be a bitch to load for some users. The alternative would be to wait for it to get to an amount, unsticky, find the next one, sticky it and repeat. Who the hell wants to do that?
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>>457
I was talking about one single sticky that doesn't even last for 24 hours.
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>>457
Last time I was on /tv/ when a new episode of GoT was on, about half the topics on the front page alone were GoT related
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>>457
The problem with "show stickies" is that not all the threads are actually discussing the show, a lot of them are for making up stupid theories, post comics and "funny" oc somewhat related to the show.
When they air the discussion is most of the times kept to one or 2 threads
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Separate /cel/ board for celebrity cult worship, so actual discussion of the telling of stories through the juxtapositioning of audio and video can get some attention.
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>>480
With a 10000x10000 pixel limit so they can take that shit off of /hr/ too.
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I think the problem is intrinsic with /tv/'s userbase. It's also been pointed out many times before that "waifu" or "celeb" threads are a minority of /tv/'s total threads; anyone who uses the catalog regularly would notice this.

The problem, as I see it, is dilettantes just joining threads about their "favorite" actor/actress when they don't know shit about them, nor care about them. This devolves into a boring pic dump and general shit posting that really has nothing to do about the particular person. I don't really care about worshiping or fetishizing the person (it's fun), but that should be just a trait, not the whole focus of discussion... rereading this, I don't see a solution for fixing the threads themselves. /tv/ is just base and I wouldn't have it any other way.

What I would like to see is implementing a native catalog and search function. If I had to browse /tv/'s front page, I'd also lose my mind.
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i go through all 10 fricking pages all the time, and i'll reply to anything that i find in line with my interests, but the saturation of any one show is usually the point where i don't have anything to respond to
waifu threads are a fine relief point, but they're not the cause of /tv/'s general stagnation
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>>1149
yes, last sunday and monday had so many breaking bad threads i left /tv/ for the day, and I LIKE breaking bad.
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>>192
>but if they're removed it would just become a Games of Throne board or BrBa, etc. Flavor of the month TV show board.

What exactly is so bad about that? It's at least tv/film. Popular things get posted a lot. Big deal. Just tell them to make a single General thread instead of 20 threads.

I can't stand going to /tv/ and seeing it overun with tripfags, celebrity threads, and the occasional racist thread. Actual film discussion is incredibly hard to find.

Threads about Celebrities, their persona lives, and other irrelevant shit: /celeb/.

Discussion about films/movies: /tv/.
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>>1336
>tell them to make a general
>implying no one's tried that
another problem is that so many of those that go to /tv/ to talk about breaking bad (or whatever flavor of the month show) don't seem to look very hard to find what would be a general thread and try to consolidate their discussion into any given thread
how many WUBDUB threads have there been since sunday?

unfortunately, the suboptimal ideal solution for this is weekly stickies, but we don't seem to have any consistent moderation that allows that
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>>1456

>f those that go to /tv/ to talk about breaking bad (or whatever flavor of the month show) don't seem to look very hard to find what would be a general thread

This is a problem with every single board actually. I think something like a catalog might help. It's rather a pain to manually go through each page to find a thread. With a catalog it is painless. I think Catalogs should be implemented into 4chan proper.

http://catalog.neet.tv/tv/
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>>1336
>Actual film discussion is incredibly hard to find.

that's because there are none. take it upon yourself to make some film discussion threads.

>Popular things get posted a lot. Big deal.

television and film celebrities are popular, that's why they get posted.
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>>1486
>might help
i'd go so far to state would help, since it's all there on one page and casuals don't have to hurt their precious fingers clicking
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Would be great if moot could just clarify the rules and fire the janitors that step outside their job description.

I'm in favour of waifu threads, but if it was explicitly against the rules I would accept that more than having to accept some 14 year old janitor with a god complex who only deletes the threads that he doesn't personally enjoy.
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>>1555
>I'm in favour of waifu threads
Why? Because it's part of the "board culture"?

I agree with >>1336
>Threads about Celebrities, their persona lives, and other irrelevant shit: /celeb/.
>Discussion about films/movies: /tv/.
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4chan boards are like evil genies.

I remember wishing so hard for a literature board and even sending a few dozen e-mails. Then along comes /lit/ and it's absolute shit.

It's not the theme of the board. It's the community.

A vast upheaval like creating a separate board might provide an opportunity to change /tv/'s community into something better but it's unlikely. /v/ got that treatment twice and it's still awful. /r9k/ and /pol/ survived death.

Instead, I'd suggest a sub title to the board
>/tv/ - Television & Film
>abandon all hope ye who enter
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>>1575
Why not? There's no reason the board can't support waifus and tv discussion. It's the same people posting both.
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>>1575
i think it's a symbiotic relationship. actors and their looks/personality/fame are an integral part of the industry.
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/tv/ aux
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Link to the 300+ post other /tv/ thread:
>>414

>>1819
Of course those things play a factor in their place in the industry, but I feel threads SOLELY about their looks have no place in /tv/, especially when they're just image dumps with light commentary.
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>>3562
>but I feel threads SOLELY about their looks have no place in /tv/, especially when they're just image dumps with light commentary

well I disagree, as do the large number of people who participate in said threads

and since they clearly are not against the rules, I'd advise you to stop taking 4chan so seriously and just ignore what you don't like. They even make tools that let you hide them all together.
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Do you guys think any mods will show up this time around?
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>>3562
>image dumps
yeah image dumps

of the show!

vj gif threads are possibly 100% from the show
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>>3562
You're objectively wrong. This is why there aren't any good janitors, everybody thinks their own topic is ok, but they are perfectly fine deleting anything that doesn't interest them. People do the same thing IRL too, people will campaign for the drug that they personally use to be legalized, but it's fine for other types to be illegal.

There's countless types of threads that I don't find interesting so I don't post in them. I don't want them deleted though. Live and let live.

I don't even post in many waifu threads, only Lia ones. Everything else is TV.
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>>3616
>large number of people who participate in these threads
There is also a large number of people who take the opposite stance.

As the rules are now, they aren't against the rules, but that's why I'm posting: because I think they should be.
They have close to no discussion and steal page space from other threads, and I don't think the mere fact that they're pictures from a television show or an actress from a television show should absolve them of their brainlessness.
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How do waifu threads negatively impact your 4chan experience?
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>>3671
yes, we need more space for BrBa and TDKR
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>>3679
>tdkr
There are virtually no TDKR threads anymore. It fizzled out after opening week and it's been on the decline ever since.
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>>3671
>waifu threads steal space
>one or two precious threads
>flavor of the month show
>60 or 70 threads
MINERALS, MARIE
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>>3679
don't forget was it rape threads and all the other daily spam
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>>3659
How can you say I'm wrong when I'm just expressing my opinion?
I don't think image dumps should be allowed because they have such little discussion.

Why do you think they should be allowed?
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>>3684
and before that, it was Avengers and GoT

the flavor of the month movie/tv show will "drown out" other discussion much more than actress threads
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>>3692
or adv soc bullshit

i dont mind it as much when its an open ended topic for everyone but when its just one persons blog it can very quickly get annoying
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>>3684
So really you only need more space for your BrBa threads then?
That is only until GOT comes back

And we can't forget
>Was it rape?
>Was it rape?
>Was it rape?
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>>3699
because this is an imageboard
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Anyone who says there needs to be a two separate boards hasn't been on /tv/ for very long. There is plenty of television and film discussion and making another board is just pointless.
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>>3732
i agree with the above post.
.
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I would still at the least be interested in /cel/ for the likely orgiastic nature

sorry but
>would you buy bras for you rapidly developing waifu
is kind of funny to me and it'd be interesting to see that completely unbridled passion go on forever without a single break
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>>3778
they don't see the humor in it because they actually think people are being serious all the time
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What is /cel/ exactly? Jailbait board or something?
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>>3834
/cel/ebrities

example of likely daily content
>>>24948953
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>>3834
I imagine it would be sfw and would cover a broad range of age groups.
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example of likely daily /cel/ content
>>24948953
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>>3834
board.wikieat.org/cel
It's just a board request that people think would remove all celebrity spam from /tv/, when it would in fact double the amount of celebrity spam on 4chan as a whole.
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/tv/ are just a bunch of uptight faggots. Celebrity image dumps belong there and always have.

What we REALLY need is a consistent and mentally stable mod who doesn't have fucking retarded rules like "no discussion of ASR".
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>>3843
>>3868
here nigga goddamn

>>/tv/24948953
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>/tv/
>not fun allowed

pick two
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>>3897
Haha, you suck at this. Try >>>/tv/24948953
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>>3897
>>>/tv/24948953

lel
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>>3897
yeah that didnt work either wtf
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>>3907
>>3910
>Clit inspection day
lel
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Create /cel/ or remove /tv/ entirely moot, this shit needs to stop
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Sorry but waifu threads and underage girls have ALWAYS been apart of /tv/. How about a mod that actually deals with tripfag drama or forced memes.
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>>3944
>Create /cel/ or remove /tv/ entirely

yeah, that makes sense
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>>3793
Pretty sure it's been going on long enough that plenty of the people who think it IS serious have joined in, and will soon outnumber the ones doing it ironically. It's the same thing that happened to /v/.
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>>3952
Fucking THIS. Nobody who has been on /tv/ since the beginning wants /cel/.
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>>3962
nah, I think most understand it's just schtick

that's not to say we don't like the actresses, of course we do, but the over the top adoration and devotion is just for effect
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>>3962
There's a spectrum of people, shocker.
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>remove the incompetent janitors
>remove the incompetent mods
>remove all tripfags

/tv/ order restored.
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>>3978
You overestimate internet users.
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>>3966
well shit how long is that? I've been on about 3 years and I think it'd be interesting to see
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>>3998
>ban /cel/ bullshit

Add that and you got it
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>>4009
No, ban retards like you who think they can change established /tv/ culture.
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>>3952
and it would still invade

thats the beauty of /cel/
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For those wondering what kind of shit gets posted in the waifu threads:
http://archive.foolz.us/tv/thread/17632069/
http://archive.foolz.us/tv/thread/16993771/
http://archive.foolz.us/tv/thread/16983931/
http://archive.foolz.us/tv/thread/16978666/
http://archive.foolz.us/tv/thread/16984645/
http://archive.foolz.us/tv/thread/16985362/

More can be found here:
http://archive.foolz.us/tv/search/text/%22johnny%20appleseed%22/order/desc/page/11/

Waifu threads are badly hidden pedo threads made by people from not4chan. They're quite similar to bronies; they say that they discuss the show and the actress, but all they do is collect pictures to jerk off to.

A lot of people are fed up with them, I think the majority of /tv/ even.
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>>4016
m-muh cuture
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>>4051
>linking year old threads
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>>4051
so as long as the actress is 16+, it's ok?
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>>4051
>2011
Cherry picking.
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>>4051
if by pedo you simply mean underage then yes but those girls are teenagers
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>>4067
It's still happening today fuckwit
>>>/tv/24949345

And I see the shitstains are coming out of the closet
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>>4096
>still taking kaiji seriously
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>>4096
Also this:
>>>/s/9112225
>>>/r/8151998
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>>4099
>not wanting a shitposter to be banned
>not knowing he harassed several actresses on twitter
>not knowing he deleted his Twitter account and others after that image got tweeted
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>>4113
he gets banned all the time
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>>4051
>I think the majority of /tv/ even.
That's a bold claim, but I do agree that the waifu threads are NOT like (SOME OF) their defenders claim.

In the previous thread, I admitted I never visited any Nick/Disney threads before, so I was open to hearing about the discussions that go on within them. I was linked an image dump. The few text posts I saw talked about how pretty the girl was, and they weren't even replying to each other. They were just independent comments.

The sad part was that in the OP, the guy asked what everyone's favorite film/show she starred in. Dozens and dozens of posts, and I saw only one reply to OP.
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>>4124
and yet none none that matters, because this is an imageboard
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We really don't need a /cel/ board.

The solution to the pedo & waifu shit is more janitors and relently oppression of the people who post that shit.

More boards is not the solution to every problem.
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ban all the whiny aspie shitposters like the ones ITT, that are too autistic to ignore threads they do not like.

>/tv/ restored to glory
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This was Hitboy, Chloe spammer. Screenshotted some of his posts and tweeted them to Chloe Moretz and people Hitboy was friended with. He deleted his account shortly afterwards
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>>4113
>>not knowing he harassed several actresses on twitter
what like who? are you sure you're not thinking of Spike?
ryan newman even personally thanked him for his youtube tribute
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>>4149
yes, you are certainly much less autistic than him
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>>4150
Until we showed her the shit he posted about her on 4chan

>>4152
At least I won't get V&
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>>4143
strongly agree we don't need it but I think it could still be fun
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>>4149
Are we allowed waifu threads if we don't objectify them?
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>>4154
well he didn't, because he's still posting
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How have you gotten away with hosting a site that consistently has child pornography posted on it? Have there been serious attempts to shut it down?
How is the site monitored - do you forward illegal material and IP info to the FBI?
4chan gets almost one million posts per day, hundreds of thousands of which are images. As with any large UGC site a very, very small percentage of these posts end up being contraband or questionable content. We have a team of volunteers who do an excellent job removing prohibited content, including CP, which is then automatically reported to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children's CyberTipline.
NCMEC acts as a clearing house and forwards reports to the appropriate law enforcement. This is how all major ISPs and online service providers do it. Here's the law.
Has anyone gotten arrested for posting illegal content?
Yes. Anyone who posts illegal content on 4chan is an idiot.
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>>4183
>How have you gotten away with hosting a site that consistently has child pornography posted on it? Have there been serious attempts to shut it down?
from what I can tell fbi likes it because it has resulted in arrests

also I assume it helps that anything posted stays up very briefly and is clearly against rules
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>>4183
>How have you gotten away with hosting a site that consistently has child porn
>>4201
It's nothing compared to reddits jailbait board.
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>>4183
I doubt anyone posts illegal content without advanced proxies or VPNs (anymore)
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>>4216
http://www.dailydot.com/society/reddit-r-jailbait-shutdown-controversy/
http://www.technolog.msnbc.msn.com/technology/technolog/reddit-pulls-jailbait-section-after-kid-porn
-post-120043

>b-b-but ma rights ;_;

Go cry some more
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>>4183
This is basically what /tv/ needs. It's weird that those rules are strictly enforced on one part of the site and aren't just global. I get the feeling a lot of people who would shitpost there went to /tv/.
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>>4257
you're pretty dumb
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>>4201
>also I assume it helps that anything posted stays up very briefly and is clearly against rules

Not since 4chan got all those archives for the boards. There's stuff on some of the archives that is more then a year old. The old archive even got shut down when somebody reported it because it had CP on it which the archive had automatically saved from a /tv/ thread.

>>4259
Nice try kiddo, 0/10 you're just butthurt, cry more
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Also
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pYwPc6UNmo
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I don't particularly like waifu threads either, but they are not really a problem. Same for celebrity threads.

The biggest problem on /tv/ and a cople of other boards are retards who intentionally create tons of threads for the same topic. On smaller forums you would have an administrator locking all similar threads except for the oldest one, maybe merging them if they are diligent. On 4chan this of course not possible. It should be treated as spamming and result in a short ban (24 or 48 hours) to make it clear that it's not as funny as they think and just shits up the board.
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The only reason people give
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>>4284
iirc, it was /g/
but just keep spreading rumors
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>>4370
Goddamnit

The only reason people give for not making waifu threads a bannable offense is that it would lead to more threads discussing shows and films
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honestly i don't think we need /cel/, new mods or any changes. yes there's shitposting, and while people complain about it it never reaches the point where TV and film discussion is hindered. you can hide a thread on the catalogue, report it and ignore it.

tenuous threads such as discussing actresses in ways which don't pertain to their career might be bordering on rule breaking, but there's no reason each conversation has to be heavily moderation to ensure nobody talks about their feet or cup size. i have yet to see the board reach a point where it can't function because of shit posting
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Moot, here's the problem with splitting /tv/.

There simply does not seem to be enough activity to warrant it. Now, I could be wrong, but /v/ was split because it simply was (is) a massive board, the second largest on the site. /a/ has its own sub-boards because it's another huge board.

/tv/ isn't large. During off-hours, while there are posters, it just doesn't compare to the larger boards that have had sub-boards created for them. There have been times when threads have lasted many, many hours before they slipped away.

So, the problem with creating a /cel/ board is it splits an already smallish community. Right now, because there is a vast similarity between "waifuists" and those wishing to discuss film/movies, there is much overlap between the two. If you create /cel/, it COULD threaten to permanently remove elements from the original community by having people simply remain in /cel/. Plus, the waifu threads don't plague the board. They exist, yes, but it's NOTHING like /v/'s Generals thread problem.

tl;dr -
1) /tv/ isn't large enough to deserve a sub-board.
2) Creating /cel/ COULD hurt the overall community of /tv/ and /cel/
3) Waifu/gossip threads aren't overwhelmingly pervasive

((Note: I've no desire in that waifu business. I'm simply speaking as someone who frequents /tv/))
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>>4405
>>4393
>waifufags feeling the heat

Quality > quantity. I'd rather have a slower but good board than a fast and shitty one. See /b/.
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>>4427
I said in my note at the bottom that I'm not a waifufag.

Those who post in waifu/gossip threads contribute to film and TV threads. Those who post in film and TV threads have posted in waifu/gossip threads (and I don't mean shitposting either) with actual contributions. There is an overlay between the two; it's not like either side has shunned the other (except for a few anons who just HATE the waifu/gossip stuff.. for whatever reason).

It's not about quality or quantity. Removing waifu/gossip threads isn't going to increase the quality of film and TV threads, because the waifu/gossip threads keep that sort of discussion contained within those threads. They don't spill out elsewhere and hurt the film/TV threads.
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>>4427
>quality
you keep forgetting all the retards making a new thread for each little thing in whatever flavor of the month show they're watching
it's a bigger problem to the overall quality of /tv/ than anything
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>>4427
/tv/ is never fast, or shitty. more moderation to deal with a small problem means more thread spam where you could have just let one exist, more posts being inappropriately deleted and more problems with disagreeable moderators
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>>4427
If you take away the I-Want-To-Be-John-Hinckley-When-I-Grow-Up threads, all you're left with is Game of Thrones, BrBa, and NolanHate General. /tv/ is rotten to the core.
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>>358
Why do you think we have /c/ and /e/?
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>>4474
That's because the other decent threads get flooded by the shitty ones, see
>>>/tv/24946723
>>>/tv/24947834

But they end up on page 9 or 10 fast due to the waifu threads getting bumped to 1 because of the spammers. Don't be such a dolt.

>>4455
>Removing waifu/gossip threads isn't going to increase the quality of film and TV threads, because the waifu/gossip threads keep that sort of discussion contained within those threads. They don't spill out elsewhere and hurt the film/TV threads.

You're a blithering fool for thinking that. Lots of thread derail because they suddenly want it to be a RyRy or Chloe thread. There's a reason they got banned so much early 2012.
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>>4471
>/tv/ is never shitty
Personally, if I ever see more than 3 Nick/Disney threads on the front page, the board feels pretty shitty to me.

>more thread spam where you could have just let one exist
Are you talking about how some people spam in protest? That's not a problem with the means of moderation, that's a problem with the poster.

>more posts being inappropriately deleted
That's why the rules need to be clearer as to what's okay and what's not. I read moot's post on here earlier that bans will be more in depth and cite rule(s) broken. Maybe he'll also fix something with warnings, too.
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Here, let's watch this live and see how it unravels:
>>>/tv/24950493
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>>4500
So you want /tv/ to be a movie version of /r/?
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hey EuBxusNH
>>4456
address that
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>genuine /tv/ threads discussing a show or film
>>>/tv/24948237
>>>/tv/24946770

>HURR DURR I LOVE MY WAIFU
>>>/tv/24948257

So yeah, go fuck yourself if you don't want it to be contained
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>>4513
see, that thread is completely within the boundaries of every rule. it's literally a thread made to discuss a television show, there's nothing wrong with it. already people are shouting pedo despite the show centring on two adults
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>>4521
They're discussing a show. That's what /tv/ was meant for. It's not meant to talk about how much you want to lick the feet of an underage actress. There are also plenty of legit threads discussing not flavor of the month films and series.

It's better to have spam about a show or film than just plain actress worshipping.

>>4528
That's the excuse bronies use as well. It's not holding up anymore.
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>>4543
>implying 200 WUBWUB threads are quality /tv/ threads
confirmed for shit stirrer and alarmist
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>>4500
>>4500
>Lots of thread derail because they suddenly want it to be a RyRy or Chloe thread. There's a reason they got banned so much early 2012.

First, that doesn't happen often, where an honest television or movie thread is completely overtaken like that - at least not anymore than honest television or movie threads are completely overtaken by any random subject.

Second, that's completely anecdotal or an exaggeration. I've seen threads devoted to movies where Chloe is an actress, and the thread doesn't just -explode- into an utter Chloe-storm.
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>>4528
besides, it wouldn't matter if someone did or did not cry pedo in that thread. There would be no discussing whatsoever about the show or the actresses apart from shit like:

" As long as we get to see plenty more of that luscious ass, then I'm sold. "

The reason I know this because it happens way too often. Just check the archives.

>>4551
Yeah, but there aren't 200 WUBWUB threads, but there are 200 waifu threads
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>>4555
>Second, that's completely anecdotal or an exaggeration. I've seen threads devoted to movies where Chloe is an actress, and the thread doesn't just -explode- into an utter Chloe-storm.

Please

http://archive.foolz.us/tv/search/text/chloe/order/desc/

http://archive.foolz.us/tv/thread/24948257/#24948437
http://archive.foolz.us/tv/thread/24931016/#24943070
http://archive.foolz.us/tv/thread/24933769/#24937624
http://archive.foolz.us/tv/thread/24934647/#24936787

etc.

Spare yourself the embarresement. I can look up everything using the archive.
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Besides, it says enough when the majority of waifu threads already get deleted anyway.
Threads like http://archive.foolz.us/tv/search/text/chloe/deleted/deleted/order/desc/
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>>4543
You can't really compare bronies and waifuists. Brony fandom stems from one show, not countless shows or movies.

Bronies were shipped off to MLP, and there hasn't been a problem since. That made sense to create MLP board, because it's hugely popular.

What doesn't make as much sense is to create a celebrity board, because celebrities are a core facet of every movie/show.

If /cel/ was created, then you would have people screaming at anons ">>>/cel/" whenever they, in a particular movie thread, wanted to start talking about an actor in that movie.. for whatever reason.

Brony just isn't a very good analogy.
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>>4570
>>4586
and let's not forget how many times AIDS has been banned. Face it. If anything we can agree on it's the fact that waifu threads and the ones starting them have bad PR
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>>4500
Do you think if waifu threads were 100% removed people would automatically convert their posting effort to your boring film threads?

How many posts can you really make about the movie Troll Hunter? For God's sake.

If you start a waifu thread for some nobody-actress, that too will have very few replies, for the same reason.
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I support having a /cel/ board too.
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>>4570
>>4570
>>4570

Now you're changing your argument.

You initially said:
>Lots of thread derail because they suddenly want it to be a RyRy or Chloe thread.

Now you're pointing out threads that INITIALLY STARTED as Chloe threads. No, that doesn't fly. I don't see random threads on... say.. the movie Alien completely derailed into a RyRy or Chloe thread. That is what you were saying, and that's what I quoted.
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>>4596
I don't think anything on 4chan is good PR.
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>>4570
>>4624

Also, a few of your examples has ONE ANON posting ONE COMMENT about Chloe in a thread. That is NOT derailing the thread.

Geez. You're HUGELY over-exaggerating your own point.
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>>4595
Bronies say they watch the show for the plot, because of the message it conveys, because it's fun, etc.

But meanwhile they're jerking off to pictures of some pony eating out another one. They say one thing, but they do and act something else

>>4603
No, but it would clutter the board less and other threads would have more time in the spotlight. It's a simple matter of bumping.

The fact you can't even think how many posts you could make about the Troll Hunter speaks volumes.

You could discuss Norwegian/Scandinavian films in general
You could discuss monster movies in general
You could discuss the visual effects, the sound design, the cinematography, the creature design, the acting
You could discuss the found footage genre
You could discuss the flaws or the strengths of the movie or parts of the movie
You could discuss movies dealing with folklore

etc etc

>>4624
http://archive.foolz.us/tv/thread/24798714/#24799423
http://archive.foolz.us/tv/thread/24705387/#24706189
http://archive.foolz.us/tv/thread/24702693/#24703215

Notice how the majority of those posts got deleted? Because the janitor or mod already does not allow them.

In fact, I can just do this:
http://archive.foolz.us/tv/search/text/%22this%20is%20now%20a%22/deleted/deleted/order/desc/

et voila. Thanks to the archive
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>>4640
You're posting no examples whatsoever. I already know what the current thought of janitors and mods are about waifu threads and how they're dealt with.
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>>4658
...I don't need to post examples. I'm not the one who said threads are being overrun by Chloe or RyRy posts.
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>>4651
>>4658
>Because the janitor or mod already does not allow them.
>I already know what the current thought of janitors and mods are about waifu threads and how they're dealt with.
Why do you keep going on about this? How is this relevant to the discussion?
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>>4651
>You could discuss Norwegian/Scandinavian films in general
>You could discuss monster movies in general
>You could discuss the visual effects, the sound design, the cinematography, the creature design, the acting
>You could discuss the found footage genre
>You could discuss the flaws or the strengths of the movie or parts of the movie
>You could discuss movies dealing with folklore
I'm not passionate about any of that stuff. Are you? Why aren't you in there taking about it all? Stop expecting quality film posting from everyone expect yourself...
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>>4668
Then show me proof that that isn't the case. I'm not just speaking about posts but threads in general.

>>4669
Because the basis for removing waifu threads and spammers already is there

>>4682
>I'm not passionate about any of that stuff.

then what the fuck are you doing on /tv/ if you do not care about the art of filmmaking or television.
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>>4651
>all bronies want to fuck ponies
cool gross generalization bro
way to take the minority fringe and apply it to all
>no waifu threads = all other posts thrive
as i mentioned, i go back from page 10 and work my way back to 0 and reply to all threads that interest me, threads about new godzilla or troll hunter have no appeal to me, but if there's a star trek thread or something about 90s sitcoms, i'll reply
a waifu thread isn't gonna hamper my abilities to replay
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>>4668
oh and if you want one:
>>>/tv/24950528
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>>4651
>http://archive.foolz.us/tv/thread/24798714/#24799423
http://archive.foolz.us/tv/thread/24705387/#24706189
http://archive.foolz.us/tv/thread/24702693/#24703215

You keep doing this, anon. It's intellectually dishonest of you.

You claimed threads were being overrun.

Now, I'll take these three examples that you provided:
#1 and #3 are straight up waifu threads. So, yes, peoples' waifus will be posted in them. Is that a surprise?
#2 is an offtopic spam thread... and it doesn't even appear that there were too many waifu posts in it. In fact, all it has is Kaiji saying "This is now a RyRy thread," with exactly ONE further waifu post before the thread died.

Again, more examples that do not show what you initially claimed: that innocent, film and movie threads were being simply overrun by waifuists.
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>>4688
>Because the basis for removing waifu threads and spammers already is there
No it isn't. It's just mods and janitors interpreting the rules.
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>>4697
>a meta thread baiting waifuists
great example, friend
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>>4697
So, the thread you posted, where the OP says:

>i know waifu threads are being deleted, and i applaud you sir.
>i applaud you a thousand times and over 9000 internets to you sir.
>delete this thread, it has no purpose other than my praise.
>and encouragement.
>burn them all

= This is an on-topic thread about film or TV that is being overrun by waifuists? Seems to me it's a waifu thread, since it's an anon posting about how waifus will soon be a banned topic (which isn't nearly set in stone).
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Pedo shit isn't even that big of a problem. It's more just the retarded cowadoody edgy as fuck 16 year olds who shit up the board now. That's why I don't care about /cel/ anymore. Even if moot made it /tv/ would still be shit.

This is coming from someone who used to have /tv/ as his main board as recently as 2010. If anything he should maybe make a /fil/ board for just film discussion. But even that sounds like a bad idea.

I really don't know what to do to fix /tv/. It seems like a hopeless case.
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>>4697
That's pretty good example. I wish we could have more great on-topic thread like that or this one >>>/tv/24948684
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>>4741
>implying it's not gonna be made into a movie
XDXD
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>>4688
>then what the fuck are you doing on /tv/ if you do not care about the art of filmmaking or television.
I can appreciate art, I'm not passionate enough to have a discussion about it. I'm not passionate enough to remember the intricate details of an unremarkable 3 year old film that I saw zero or one times.

Hey, people have different interests. Whadyaknow....


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