Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)14:51 No.15951600

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)14:51 No.15951600

Replies: >>15951769

yes there are
latin america, eastern europe, india, some parts of africa

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)14:53 No.15951651

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)14:53 No.15951651

Replies: >>15951769

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There are plenty

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)14:56 No.15951762

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)14:56 No.15951762

Replies: >>15951814

Statistically most self-identifying leftists do not appeal to identity politics. The vast majority simply don't get involved.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)14:56 No.15951769

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)14:56 No.15951769

Replies: >>15951793 >>15953525 >>15958084

>>15951600
>>15951651
so not in north america?
also, what do you think caused leftism to become so wimpy?

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)14:57 No.15951793

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)14:57 No.15951793

Replies: >>15951885

>>15951769
>so not in north america?
Have there been any in North America at all to begin with?

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)14:57 No.15951814

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)14:57 No.15951814

Replies: >>15951930

>>15951762
>identity politics.
by this do you mean things like feminism and the 'check your privilege' stuff?

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)14:58 No.15951836

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)14:58 No.15951836

Replies: >>15951885 >>15951998 >>15958640 >>15959465

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>>15951530 (OP)
You can't say that leftists were ALWAYS wimps.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)14:59 No.15951885

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)14:59 No.15951885

Replies: >>15951990

>>15951793
i don't think north america ever had native leftists groups. seems like they were all imports like the wobblies.
>>15951836
>You can't say that leftists were ALWAYS wimps.
i didn't

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:00 No.15951930

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:00 No.15951930

Replies: >>15951968

>>15951814
Yes. The vast majority of 'leftists' permit such ideas to exist in a free society yet don't advocate or support it themselves. Many of them don't even agree with femnazi's 90% of the time, they just don't go about calling for bannhammers upon LGBTs.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:02 No.15951968

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:02 No.15951968

Replies: >>15952043 >>15958735

>>15951930
>The vast majority of 'leftists'
then where are they and why aren't they as vocal?

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:02 No.15951990

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:02 No.15951990

>>15951885
>early 1960s Canadian NDP founded by disenfranchised farmers and workers in Canada's prairie provinces
>not home-grown socialism spearheaded by white working males

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:02 No.15951998

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:02 No.15951998

Replies: >>15952193 >>15953402 >>15953717

>>15951836
Fun random fact, that picture with the Russian soldier and the flag over Berlin was edited from the original. In the original picture showed a bunch of watches on his wrist from looting; they blotted out all but one and released that version.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:03 No.15952003

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:03 No.15952003

Replies: >>15952249 >>15952391 >>15953000

>>15951530 (OP)
>Means of production back into the hands of the working man
>Communists
>Taking things that don't belong to them by force because muh right to live without working
>Not pussies

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:03 No.15952026

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:03 No.15952026

>>15951530 (OP)
Not in north america. Giving why? simple that this guys live in a materialistic and decaying society. Where feeling are more important than actually doing something. That why we'll see this type of effeminate and shameful display of degenerates.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:03 No.15952043

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:03 No.15952043

>>15951968
Holding jobs and living their lives.

>if you aren't out being an activist at all times you don't exist

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:07 No.15952193

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:07 No.15952193

>>15951998
Whats wrong with a soldier looting as much as he can, and raping as much as he can when in a conquered nation?
>You're a fag or something?

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:08 No.15952219

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:08 No.15952219

Replies: >>15958043

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Yup. Identity politics has allowed capitalism to defeat socialism better than any fascism by corrupting it beyond recognition.

Now modern "socialists" are all about encouraging immigration to lower labour costs and having taxpayers pay for gay couples to rent third-world women's wombs to bear their babies.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:08 No.15952249

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:08 No.15952249

Replies: >>15952363

>>15952003
Way off...everything in the world was produced by human labour, in one way or another. The labour of the workers, not the owners, hence they do have a moral right to it, a right that capitalist degenerates stole from them.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:11 No.15952363

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:11 No.15952363

Replies: >>15952533 >>15953000

>>15952249
That's fucking stupid. Clearly it's produced by human labor, but human labor is cheap and abundant. By working, you agree to trade your labor for a wage, not for a piece of the final product. If everything was produced by human labor and human labor alone, you'd be able to pump cars out of your garage to sell because all it takes is human labor, but you can't. You need a capitalist with the factory, the raw materials, etc. to make the car, which is why he is entitled to the final product after paying the price for which you traded your labor you fucking retarded communist.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:12 No.15952391

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:12 No.15952391

Replies: >>15952501

>>15952003
>Means of production back into the hands of the working man
>Taking things that don't belong to them by force because muh right to live without working
pick one
i'm lazy because i want to own what i work for?
how is giving people the means of production so they can work laziness?
btw i'm not a communist or a leftist but i think they have a point, the common man can only earn a decent living if he owns what he works for and that requires giving the worker control over their lives and their work.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:15 No.15952501

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:15 No.15952501

Replies: >>15952567 >>15952719 >>15953000 >>15957213

>>15952391
You aren't working for anything. You're trading your labor to someone who owns something so they can have the finished product. If you want to own the means of production, go out and get it, then buy someones labor so they can make it into something nice for you. You're not "working for" anything, you're trading your labor to someone who owns something.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:16 No.15952533

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:16 No.15952533

Replies: >>15952642

>>15952363
Holy crap this jew is raging here.
>You need a capitalist with the factory, the raw materials, etc. to make the car, which is why he is entitled to the final product after paying the price for which you traded your labor you fucking retarded communist.
The capitalist may be entitled to some amount of labour - e.g. say, 10% of your labour. But when a man gets paid say... $10/h to make and sell pop-corn at a movie cinema sells $200 worth of popcorn an hour, the jews get 20 times of the mans wage, and I got a serious problem with that.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:17 No.15952567

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:17 No.15952567

Replies: >>15952657 >>15954836

>>15952501
So how is that not slavery?

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:19 No.15952642

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:19 No.15952642

Replies: >>15952941 >>15953000 >>15953008

>>15952533
Then go fucking get some popcorn and sell it yourself. When you're selling the Jew's popcorn, the Jew only has to pay you whatever the both of you agree on. It's HIS fucking popcorn, not yours. The capitalist isn't "entitled" to anything, he receives the exact amount that he and the worker agree on. He's only buying your labor, why should he have to buy back some of the popcorn that's ALREADY HIS FUCKING POPCORN?

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:19 No.15952657

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:19 No.15952657

Replies: >>15952955 >>15953000

>>15952567
Because you can say "no" and not have to do it. It would only be slavery if you couldn't say no.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:21 No.15952719

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:21 No.15952719

Replies: >>15952912

>>15952501
i think you're missing the point. ownership itself isn't the problem. the problem is that so many own so less. wouldn't you agree that more people should own what they work?

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:23 No.15952782

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:23 No.15952782

Replies: >>15953000

once again the randroids ruin another thread

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:24 No.15952807

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:24 No.15952807

The few that exist get drowned out by Jew-owned cultural marxists.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:24 No.15952825

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:24 No.15952825

Replies: >>15952849 >>15952991

>>15951530 (OP)
Yes.

>inb4 National-Socialism isn't leftist

You can count it as either, economically lots of leftism, social right-wing.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:25 No.15952849

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:25 No.15952849

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>>15952825
>pic related

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:26 No.15952912

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:26 No.15952912

Replies: >>15953000 >>15953098

>>15952719
Firstly, I hope that English is not your first language.

Your qualm very clearly lies with ownership. The fact that so many own so little doesn't entitle people to just be handed things. They have the same opportunity as others to become the capitalist. They can save, invest, get loans, etc, but far too many people are hedonistic, don't use their money wisely, and then they complain that they don't own the nice things that the person who handled their money wisely does. They instead decide to trade their labor to the capitalist.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:27 No.15952936

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:27 No.15952936

Replies: >>15953028

The modern left is pacifist and toothless.
Which is fine by me, when they weren't, tens of millions of people died.

Now if we could just get the modern right to adopt the same hippy-dippy bullcrap, or some variation of that, we'd all be better off.

Unfortunately the phony toughguy crap is probably too close to the core of modern rightwing psychology for it to work. Impotent fat guys cling to that shit like it was gold.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:27 No.15952941

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:27 No.15952941

Replies: >>15953076

>>15952642
You're trying to mask a problem in this system - notably, that its a system of few master and many slaves. And according to you, its supposedly ok because they "agreed" to it. Well guess what, how much choice do they slaves have but not to agree to be slaves? They got rent to pay (cause the jews drove up the property prices), and need food to eat. Now, IF we lived in some Shangri-La where there would be free accomondation and food for everyone, then I could agree with you that the ex-slaves can agree for a fair wage with the capitalist, cause theyre not under pressure anymore.
I think youre probably not even a jew, at least on the outside. Youre a "normal" white "virtual jew", which is even worse because that allows you to infiltrate anywhere and everywhere.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:27 No.15952955

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:27 No.15952955

Replies: >>15953076 >>15957290

>>15952657
it's hard to say no when most people don't own anything. but i guess starvation and poverty are viable alternatives, right? work or starve is still a free choice, right?

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:28 No.15952988

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:28 No.15952988

I consider myself a New Deal Democrat.

combines economic statism with a manly self-confidence and respect for traditional American cultures

Sadly, my kind are not represented very much in the modern Democrat party, which is led from the coasts.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:28 No.15952991

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:28 No.15952991

Replies: >>15953052 >>15953083

>>15952825
The NAZI's purged their own left wing in 1934.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:29 No.15953000

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:29 No.15953000

>>15952782
I hope you're not talking about me:

>>15952003
>>15952363
>>15952501
>>15952642
>>15952657
>>15952912

Because if you are, it's funny that yo just bitch and moan instead of, you know, arguing against one of my claims. But it doesn't surprise me that the only things communists are good at is bitching and moaning.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:29 No.15953008

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:29 No.15953008

Replies: >>15953173

>>15952642
Well combining your posts, the working men should be paid $200 - price of all the popcorn - $200*0.1 (capitalist share). This isnt what happens though.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:29 No.15953028

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:29 No.15953028

Replies: >>15953324

>>15952936
you mean we don't go running around starting wars to make Daddy proud?

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:30 No.15953052

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:30 No.15953052

Replies: >>15957872

>>15952991
Of course, Röhm and the SA were going to want more and more power. It wasn't because of their ideologies or because he was gay. It was purely practical. Nevertheless, national-socialism retained plenty of leftist characteristics.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:31 No.15953076

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:31 No.15953076

Replies: >>15953141 >>15953235

>>15952941
>>15952955

Are you implying that just being alive is essentially slavery because we can't refuse to eat?

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:31 No.15953083

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:31 No.15953083

Replies: >>15956566

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>>15952991
>nazis instead of national-socialists

Kike pls go.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:31 No.15953093

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:31 No.15953093

Supposedly, according to tests, I'm a Democratic/Liberal socialist. I've toyed with many political ideas for ages but the one thing that sticks in the back of my mind is "No matter what the ideal, some asshole is going to come along and shit it up for everyone." So that basically we're picking out who gets fucked over, and not what the goal is. And that makes me not want to be involved. Still amusing as fuck to watch people argue it out though.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:32 No.15953098

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:32 No.15953098

Replies: >>15953317

>>15952912
>The fact that so many own so little doesn't entitle people to just be handed things.
you're missing the point again. no one in this thread is arguing for entitlement or stealing. ownership=/=theft
you still have yet to explain why it's so evil for the average person to own something.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:33 No.15953141

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:33 No.15953141

Replies: >>15953317

>>15953076
I am implying that arrangements into which working men and women are forced into are not all that voluntary. You're free to starve or sleep on the street of course, you still got all the rights of citizenship, but when you take a job you become a slave due to the pressing circumstances and exploitive nature of the contract.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:33 No.15953152

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:33 No.15953152

Replies: >>15953243 >>15953259

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>any year ever
>being a leftist

Why don't we respect both the working class and the upper class instead of pitting one against the other? That way, we can focus our attention on fighting the real problems here: Capitalism and Marxism.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:34 No.15953173

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:34 No.15953173

Replies: >>15953305

>>15953008
What? The working man should be paid whatever he and the employer agree on. He shouldn't be entitled to any of the popcorn sold. The employer (the man who owns the popcorn) is only buying the labor (the act of selling the popcorn), not allowing the worker to take some of the popcorn (and by extension the profits from selling the popcorn) for himself.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:34 No.15953196

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:34 No.15953196

Replies: >>15953282 >>15953352

that is the natural progression of Leftism

By declaring himself equal to all of mankind, a leftist is abandoning his masculine competitiveness, struggle for superiority and alphaness, and turning his psyche into the one of a woman, which he considers his equal

"Asian Leftism" is little more than actual national socialism practiced by China, it has nothing to do with the basic idea of Leftism that came out of 1789: All humans are equals

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:35 No.15953220

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:35 No.15953220

Replies: >>15959648

>>15951530 (OP)
You have my Mosin-Nagant, OP

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:35 No.15953235

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:35 No.15953235

Replies: >>15954898

>>15953076
no, i'm arguing against your belief that poor people can become rich by saying no to their employer.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:35 No.15953243

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:35 No.15953243

Replies: >>15953312 >>15959551

>>15953152
but Hitler was a horribly incompetent bully who almost destroyed a great nation

FDR banhammer'd him and then led the civilized world to unbelievable prosperity

why would you worship Hitler and not FDR?

Is it the nice uniforms?

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:36 No.15953259

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:36 No.15953259

>>15953152
>Why don't we respect both the working class and the upper class instead of pitting one against the other?

Said the industrialists financing the Nazis...

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:37 No.15953282

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:37 No.15953282

Replies: >>15953298 >>15953336 >>15953474 >>15953789

>>15953196
after a century in which "masculine competitiveness, struggle for superiority and alphaness" almost led to human civilization being destroyed, don't you think anyone with a brain would be skeptical of those concepts?

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:37 No.15953298

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:37 No.15953298

>>15953282
He's too busy being hopped up on testosterone to answer that.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:37 No.15953305

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:37 No.15953305

Replies: >>15953415

>>15953173
>The employer (the man who owns the popcorn) is only buying the labor (the act of selling the popcorn)
You're absolutely right, the employer is buying the labor which is the act of preparing and selling the popcorn. Now without the labor to prepare and sell the popcorn, would you agree that its value would not be $200? Meaning, the employee's labour ADDED to the value of the popcorn, and from that labour a fair share should be paid to them and not a fixed wage they agreed on?

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:38 No.15953312

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:38 No.15953312

Replies: >>15953350 >>15953384 >>15953481

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>>15953243

FDR was a crypto-marxist and a loyal cocksucker of the Jew.

FDR and Churchill wanted the war with Germany and both deserved the rope.

Hitler actually had really great ideas, but it threatened the Capitalist and Communist powers (both Jews.) A few strings pulled and there is your WW2.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:38 No.15953317

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:38 No.15953317

Replies: >>15953450

>>15953098
I never made that claim.

>>15953141
There's no such thing as an "exploitive (sic) nature" of a contract. In fact, that goes against the very nature of a contract. Two people agreeing on something. Unless you're being intentionally misleading to someone, how would it be exploiting you if (going back to the popcorn example) I paid you $20 to sell popcorn for an hour. I have a whole bucket of popcorn, and you manage to sell the whole thing. If you sold all the popcorn for $1000, it's not exploiting you, because I paid you to stand on a corner and take MY popcorn from a bucket, and trade it to other people for money. If you want to own some popcorn, go out and buy/grow/engineer/magic some popcorn, and sell it yourself.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:38 No.15953324

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:38 No.15953324

Replies: >>15953367 >>15953463

>>15953028
I mean you don't have the balls to properly deal with the fascists, and they're going to beat you.

I expect to see Europe go fascist again within a decade, and I am not among those who sees this as a good thing.

But you idiots are going to try to fight bullets with slogans, and you're fucked.

Fire Lord !AZULaFMcQ.
06/23/13(Sun)15:38 No.15953336

Fire Lord !AZULaFMcQ. 06/23/13(Sun)15:38 No.15953336

Replies: >>15953416

>>15953282
>almost led to human civilization being destroyed
What the fuck are you talking about?

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:39 No.15953350

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:39 No.15953350

Replies: >>15953638

>>15953312
>Muh revisionist history
>Muh undeserved victim status
>They started it, not because I invaded countries I had no rightful claim over or anything, damn juden!

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:39 No.15953352

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:39 No.15953352

Replies: >>15953887

>>15953196
All those manly nazi germans rotting in the fields of ukraine and russia are so thankful for being allowed to manly walk into the meatgrinder, no doubt.

Fire Lord !AZULaFMcQ.
06/23/13(Sun)15:39 No.15953367

Fire Lord !AZULaFMcQ. 06/23/13(Sun)15:39 No.15953367

>>15953324
Europe has been controlled by fascism since the end of world war II, along with most of the rest of the world; except that fascism is international in nature and run by the Jews.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:40 No.15953384

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:40 No.15953384

Replies: >>15953515

>>15953312
>hitler had great ideas
>hitler had ideas
>hitler
>ideas

literally everything hitler said or did had been done before and done better and done by someone who wasn't curbstomped by a communist georgian suffering from paranoia

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:40 No.15953391

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:40 No.15953391

>>15951530 (OP)
billy talent - red flag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjMlOMJo6XE

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:41 No.15953402

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:41 No.15953402

>>15951998
I think you can still see the second watch on this one. It's just small.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:41 No.15953415

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:41 No.15953415

>>15953305
I see what you're saying, but I disagree. The labor added to the popcorn could have been added by the capitalist himself. It's not skilled work, anybody is capable of such work. Labor is not this insanely valuable rarity.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:41 No.15953416

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:41 No.15953416

Replies: >>15953454

>>15953336
you know the two world wars that left almost 100 million dead, the dick-waving of the Cold War combined with thermonuclear warfare?

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:42 No.15953450

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:42 No.15953450

Replies: >>15954836

>>15953317
>If you want to own some popcorn, go out and buy/grow/engineer/magic some popcorn, and sell it yourself.
this is what hard leftism supports, common ownership of the means of production. i can make more money selling popcorn from my own machine, right? you seem to be confused.
why is it virtuous for a wealthy person to own the means of production?
why is it evil for a common person to own the means of production?

Fire Lord !AZULaFMcQ.
06/23/13(Sun)15:42 No.15953454

Fire Lord !AZULaFMcQ. 06/23/13(Sun)15:42 No.15953454

Replies: >>15953516

>>15953416
You think that had something to do with a contest of masculinity?

You went to an American public school, didn't you?

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:42 No.15953463

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:42 No.15953463

Replies: >>15953486 >>15956741

>>15953324
trust me, if any legit fascists sprung up, the people would defeat them again, because people are inherently against fascism.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:43 No.15953474

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:43 No.15953474

Replies: >>15953546

>>15953282
WWI was the inevitable result of 1500 years of Romano-German cultural integration.
WWII was the result of WWI and populist ideologies.
The Cold War was the result of populist ideologies.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:43 No.15953481

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:43 No.15953481

>>15953312
Hitler was a joke.

Fire Lord !AZULaFMcQ.
06/23/13(Sun)15:43 No.15953486

Fire Lord !AZULaFMcQ. 06/23/13(Sun)15:43 No.15953486

Replies: >>15953529

>>15953463
They don't seem to be doing that right now, and yet fascists who call themselves Zionists are everywhere.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:44 No.15953506

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:44 No.15953506

Replies: >>15953563

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Communist reporting in. Fuck the social democrats and liberal leftist. Raw communism is the way to go.

National communism preferably

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:44 No.15953515

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:44 No.15953515

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>>15953384

He was "curbstomped" by a communist georgian suffering from paranoia that was heavily supplied by two major western powers that were loaded with wealth to feed the marxist war machine.

The soviets had absolutely no chance at all to have fought Germany on its own, but thanks to FDR they had a nice handicap to make up for their own industrial inferiority.

Germany could have taken on any of the world powers alone with US likely being the most challenging, so FDR sneakily permitted the Japanese to attack them so they have a casus belli to enter the war in Europe.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:44 No.15953516

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:44 No.15953516

Replies: >>15957643

>>15953454
How didn't it? And yes, I did proudly go to American public school.

Take the eastern war - basically a giant dick-waving contest between Hitler and Stalin.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:45 No.15953525

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:45 No.15953525

>>15951769
Unions were crushed and real communists/socialists were repressed since the movement began to take off in the late 19th and early 20th century. Socialism in North America was nipped at the bud.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:45 No.15953529

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:45 No.15953529

Replies: >>15953559

>>15953486
where? I haven't seen them.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:45 No.15953546

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:45 No.15953546

>>15953474

WWI was the inevitable result of French butthurt and British Imperial interests.
WWII is correct
The Cold War was a result of two superpowers making backroom deals to carve the world into spheres of interest and create conflict so both military industries could thrive and test their systems.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:45 No.15953548

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:45 No.15953548

>>15953515
Nazis got stomped by USSR, this is obvious.

Fire Lord !AZULaFMcQ.
06/23/13(Sun)15:46 No.15953559

Fire Lord !AZULaFMcQ. 06/23/13(Sun)15:46 No.15953559

Replies: >>15953613

>>15953529
Does the name Barack Obama ring any bells?

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:46 No.15953563

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:46 No.15953563

Replies: >>15953693

>>15953506
Communism is against almost everything leftism stands for.

That's why in Communist countries leftists are repressed.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:48 No.15953613

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:48 No.15953613

Replies: >>15953825

>>15953559
Obama is a Zionist?

you're all confused nigga

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:49 No.15953638

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:49 No.15953638

Replies: >>15953714 >>15953767

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>>15953350

>Germany annexing GERMAN-speaking territories + land needed for agriculture and industry
>not justified

JIDF pls go

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:49 No.15953650

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:49 No.15953650

leftism has been subverted by jews who have redefined it into global collectivism based on 'social jewstice' and 'political correctness' and of course tikkun olam which is jew for repairing the world aka globalization. marxist ideals and a single global class but only for the goyim. the jews get their own class and it's up at the top. they call it 'inheritance' or the light upon nations. jews are genetically pre-disposed to ruling the world no matter what it takes and they decided to use leftism as a means to an end. it is the nature of the jew to destroy, however. so they've destroy leftism and are destroying the world they want to rule.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:51 No.15953693

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:51 No.15953693

>>15953563

Communism IS leftist, it just isn't liberal.

>muh forced equality

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:51 No.15953714

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:51 No.15953714

Replies: >>15953867 >>15959687

>>15953638
Why did they invade Russia then?

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:51 No.15953717

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:51 No.15953717

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>>15951998
No, one was a watch the other was a wrist compass.

Clearly you have no clue what you're talking about.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:53 No.15953767

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:53 No.15953767

Replies: >>15953849 >>15953915

>>15953638
>the Brits are allowed to annex America
>the Mexicans are allowed to annex the South-West
>Saudi Arabia is allowed to annex London

Your logic is shit.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:54 No.15953789

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:54 No.15953789

>>15953282
> implying that World War 1 wasnt brought by the jews to get the Balfour Declaration
> implying that Nazi Germany and the rest of fascist governments in Eastern Europe wasnt a paranoid reaction to the genocidical Communist Soviet

Fire Lord !AZULaFMcQ.
06/23/13(Sun)15:55 No.15953825

Fire Lord !AZULaFMcQ. 06/23/13(Sun)15:55 No.15953825

>>15953613
Yes, retard. How the fuck could you possibly think otherwise?

Fire Lord !AZULaFMcQ.
06/23/13(Sun)15:56 No.15953849

Fire Lord !AZULaFMcQ. 06/23/13(Sun)15:56 No.15953849

>>15953767
All of these occurences are prevented or not prevented by strength of arms, not lines on a fucking map, stupid cocksucker.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:56 No.15953867

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:56 No.15953867

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>>15953714

>1.) Soviets were a grave threat to all of the West, not just Germany. The Soviets were going to break the non-aggression pact with Germany, but Hitler beat them to it so he could end the threat once and for all before they had a chance to invade them
>2.) ... + land needed for agriculture and industry
>3.) They were people of dirtied blood who inhabited land that could've been put to much better use

If those are not good reasons, then I don't know what are.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:57 No.15953887

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:57 No.15953887

>>15953352

It must hurt that they are manlier than what you will ever be, faggot

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)15:58 No.15953915

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)15:58 No.15953915

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>>15953767

>implying the latter two aren't already happening

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)16:01 No.15954001

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)16:01 No.15954001

>>15951530 (OP)
Ataturk

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)16:02 No.15954021

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)16:02 No.15954021

White Nationalist here
i sympathize with the left for two reasons
1. it's the only ideology that gives working people the rights to their work.
2. any system that allows common people ownership of the means of production is the foundation for culture because it gives us more leisure time to tend to our communities.
libertarianism and capitalism destroy wealth and community. here's a few examples;
san francisco in the 70's - the black community were finally able to achieve a comfortable middle class status until the rich moved in. wealthy children moved to the area in the 70s to play at being hippy and drove up property values in the process. the black community fought back in an attempt to take back their neighborhoods and reclaim their lives. they lost of course because the rich hippies drove up property values which drove out the blacks. i hope those rich hippies enjoyed their weed.
colorado in the 80s and 90s - yuppies move into aspen to build their vacation homes. meanwhile the people who built that community are driven out due to increased property value. now they have to commute 2 hours or more to work in the places they built. i hope those yuppies enjoy their ski resorts.
ancaps and libertarians are the yuppies of today. they are currently moving into areas in north carolina and new hampshire so they can play at being anarchist. it's like mary antoinette playing at being farm girl just to spite the working class. they make me sick.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)16:03 No.15954046

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)16:03 No.15954046

Replies: >>15954149 >>15954263 >>15954310 >>15954400

>>15953867
Is that a David star? I though Soviet was antisemitic.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)16:06 No.15954149

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)16:06 No.15954149

Replies: >>15957436

>>15954046

Not really

Trotsky = Jew
Lenin = 1/4 Jew

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)16:09 No.15954263

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)16:09 No.15954263

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>>15954046
>I though Soviet was antisemitic.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)16:11 No.15954310

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)16:11 No.15954310

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>>15954046
>I though Soviet was antisemitic

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)16:13 No.15954400

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)16:13 No.15954400

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>>15954046
lol, the bolshevik revolution was planned and orchestrated mainly by jews
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sV15_5ATaI

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)16:26 No.15954836

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)16:26 No.15954836

Replies: >>15954920

>>15953450
It's not. For some reason you leftists think when anyone does it, it's fucking slavery.

See >>15952567

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)16:28 No.15954898

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)16:28 No.15954898

Replies: >>15954939

>>15953235
I never said they could become rich. I just said that it isn't slavery.

They can become rich by saying "yes" to their employer, and instead of spending whatever money they have left over on those fresh new Jordans or that weed/crack/herion, they save some, and each time save more and more until they can afford to invest it.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)16:29 No.15954920

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)16:29 No.15954920

>>15954836
>when anyone does it, it's fucking slavery.
i don't think you understand what's going on in this thread.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)16:29 No.15954939

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)16:29 No.15954939

Replies: >>15955102

>>15954898
>this is what libertarians actually believe

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)16:34 No.15955102

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)16:34 No.15955102

Replies: >>15955138

>>15954939
>This is how life actually works.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)16:35 No.15955138

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)16:35 No.15955138

Replies: >>15955417

>>15955102
lol

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)16:42 No.15955417

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)16:42 No.15955417

Replies: >>15955532

>>15955138
Gaiz we needz da communism cuz ppl who be smart wit dere moneyz hav stuf and i dont is not faaaaair!!! Dey shud hav to giv dere stuff to meeee!

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)16:45 No.15955532

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)16:45 No.15955532

Replies: >>15955814

>>15955417
once again, i don't think you understand this thread.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)16:53 No.15955814

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)16:53 No.15955814

Replies: >>15958268

>>15955532
Once again, I don't think you understand the world.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)17:04 No.15956273

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)17:04 No.15956273

>>15951530 (OP)

Leftist's in China are more a thing then foreigners give them credit. They believe in communism, and actively want to spread it. They are just being held back by the moderates until they are strong enough.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)17:09 No.15956458

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)17:09 No.15956458

>>15951530 (OP)
What you see as leftism is no leftism; this decadent scum is the direct product of capitalism. Castrated wimps that think they are "left", but they are not. They perverted all the clean and straight communism or even don't know what communism means. But there are some comrades left.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)17:12 No.15956566

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)17:12 No.15956566

Replies: >>15958115

>>15953083
I'm actually of mostly German ancestry.
So suck it stormpuss.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)17:14 No.15956646

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)17:14 No.15956646

Replies: >>15957041

>>15951530 (OP)
>are there any leftists in today's world that aren't pussies? by that i mean leftists who still care about getting the means of production back into the hands of the working man rather than crying about privilege. or has leftism completely become a weird cultural thing?
I want to reassure you OP. Communism is not dead.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)17:17 No.15956741

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)17:17 No.15956741

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>>15953463
That's pretty fucking naive.
And historically clearly wrong.
Fascism didn't die from internal resistance, it was crushed from outside by ruthlessly applied military force.

But I guess at least when you're watching your family die in a concentration camp, you can pat yourself on the back that you didn't resort to any icky uncivilized violence to stop them.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)17:24 No.15957041

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)17:24 No.15957041

Replies: >>15957141 >>15957451

>>15956646
Good luck doing, well anything after you kill and take from the only people who both knew how and had the means to do anything in the first place.

After those resources dry up, you guys will be stuck living in poverty and starvation. That is, if we don't kill you first.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)17:27 No.15957141

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)17:27 No.15957141

>>15957041
Remember last time. You know that fascism failure always made communism stronger. Do you want us to own the world that time?

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)17:29 No.15957213

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)17:29 No.15957213

Replies: >>15957402

>>15952501

fuck off with your logic you nazi scum!

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)17:31 No.15957290

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)17:31 No.15957290

Replies: >>15957354

>>15952955

You are free to band together with your comrades and buy your own means of production and set up your own thing.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)17:33 No.15957354

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)17:33 No.15957354

Replies: >>15957451 >>15959489

>>15957290
Can we use the glorious AK to take the means of production by force? Because we will.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)17:34 No.15957402

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)17:34 No.15957402

Replies: >>15957449 >>15959518

>>15957213
Fuck statism too. I just want the govt to stay the fuck out of everybody's life.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)17:35 No.15957436

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)17:35 No.15957436

Replies: >>15957477

>>15954149
>>15954400

Yeah and all the Jews and Trotzky were wiped out by Stalin.

Stalin was the greatest Antisemite ever to walk the Earth.

That's why the Jews supported Hitler in the hope that Hitler destroys the SU.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)17:35 No.15957449

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)17:35 No.15957449

Replies: >>15957532 >>15959566

>>15957402
So if I come into your house with gun and rape your wife and daughters the government won't intervene? I like that idea.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)17:36 No.15957451

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)17:36 No.15957451

Replies: >>15957618

>>15957354
>We aren't smart enough to do anything ourselves.
>Kill an innocent person and take what they do.

Like I said >>15957041
After those resources dry up, good luck doing anything. You'll be back at square 1 without anyone to kill and without anything to take. You'll be fucked.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)17:36 No.15957477

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)17:36 No.15957477

Replies: >>15957591 >>15958036

>>15957436
>Stalin was the greatest Antisemite ever to walk the Earth.
lel

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)17:37 No.15957532

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)17:37 No.15957532

Replies: >>15957663

>>15957449
They already don't have to.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia

I'd shoot you before you got near my daughters, and my wife and daughters would hopefully know how to shoot and effectively defend themselves as well. You'd be fucked.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)17:38 No.15957554

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)17:38 No.15957554

>>15951530 (OP)
India in the form of the Naxalites. They own the the most profitable part of India.

The Philipines. I know nothing about them, just that they're maoist and straight cold blooded niggas.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)17:39 No.15957591

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)17:39 No.15957591

Replies: >>15957640 >>15958036 >>15958365

>>15957477

But it's true.

Hitler was financed by Rothschild because the Jews were mad at Stalin that he ruined their commie plans.

>inb4 Stalin was a commie

No he was fucking not. He was the founder of an empire and against globalisation. That's what "socialism in one country" is. He turned an agrarian nation into a space and nuclear superpower.

Hitler was shit.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)17:39 No.15957618

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)17:39 No.15957618

>>15957451
Explain who produce the AK? If socialism is unable to produce. Maybe it's the Americans but those dirty lying commies change history.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)17:40 No.15957640

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)17:40 No.15957640

Replies: >>15957685

>>15957591
>Hitler was financed by Rothschild because the Jews were mad at Stalin that he ruined their commie plans.
lel x2
Were you asleep in class?

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)17:40 No.15957643

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)17:40 No.15957643

>>15953516
>this is what retards actually believe

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)17:41 No.15957663

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)17:41 No.15957663

Replies: >>15957755

>>15957532
>I'd shoot you before you got near my daughters, and my wife and daughters would hopefully know how to shoot and effectively defend themselves as well. You'd be fucked.
And if I come with a little army?

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)17:41 No.15957685

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)17:41 No.15957685

Replies: >>15957726

>>15957640

Prove me wrong fucker.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)17:41 No.15957706

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)17:41 No.15957706

Replies: >>15957753

Marxism in the West was always the intellectual fetish of the petty bourgeois.
That's why we could describe it as a merely intellectual exercise, but never really as something that knew activism like we see elsewhere.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)17:42 No.15957726

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)17:42 No.15957726

Replies: >>15957797 >>15957908 >>15958036

>>15957685
prove me right before
I won't lost time with antisemitic propaganda

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)17:43 No.15957753

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)17:43 No.15957753

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>>15957706
MLM revolutionary groups in America when?

I miss the Panthers, Weather, Young Lords, Brown Berets, etc.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)17:43 No.15957755

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)17:43 No.15957755

Replies: >>15957862

>>15957663
Well, how would a government be able to stop you from doing this? The police wouldn't get there for 10 minutes. You'd be able to kill me and take my wife and daughters somewhere else for sexy time long before that happened.

Also, the government "staying out of people's lives" doesn't necessarily require the abolition of government. Personally, I'm for things like the courts. Hell, I even see the need for the police, (I don't see why it can't be done privately though.)

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)17:44 No.15957797

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)17:44 No.15957797

>>15957726
>I won't lost time with

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)17:45 No.15957845

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)17:45 No.15957845

>>15951530 (OP)
http://sdonline.org/57/is-the-torch-passing-the-maoist-revolution-in-india/

>Welcome to India. We're not taking your shit anymore.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)17:45 No.15957862

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)17:45 No.15957862

>>15957755
1 point for you

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)17:46 No.15957872

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)17:46 No.15957872

>>15953052
>Combining price-fixing with labor certficate system
>No-interest government loans to couples; 205 marks could be reduced per child you had
>Public works programs
>Pension/retirement programs for the elderly

No question about it; they took all of the Left's best things (and all of the Right's best things as well).

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)17:47 No.15957908

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)17:47 No.15957908

Replies: >>15958002 >>15958036

>>15957726

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Bolshevism

Among members of the Central Executive Committee of the Congress of Soviets in 1929, there were 402 ethnic Russians, 95 Ukrainians, 55 Jews, 26 Latvians, 13 Poles, and 12 Germans –

Jewish representation had declined from 60 members in 1927.

With regards to Jewish representation in the ruling Politburo, it waned very rapidly starting in 1918. It began with the assassination of Moisei Uritsky, the most radical member of the Politburo, in August 1918. Then Yakov Sverdlov died of disease in March 1919 and Sokolnikov was shunted aside. Three years later in 1922, Jewish members in the Central Committee, the Politburo's new name, had shrunk to a minority of three : Trotsky, Zinoviev and Kamenev . Eventually they were all physically eliminated by Joseph Stalin : Zinoviev and Kamenev in 1936 and Trotsky in 1940.

In the 1920s, of the 417 members of the Central Executive Committee, the party Central Committee, the Presidium of the Executive of the Soviets of the USSR and the Russian Republic, the People's Commissars, 6% were ethnic Jews.[16]

Between 1936 and 1940, during the Great Purge, Yezhovshchina and after the rapprochement with Nazi Germany, Stalin had largely eliminated Jews from senior party, government, diplomatic, security and military positions.

TL;DR: Stalin backstabbed the Jews and saved Russia from Judaism. To say that the SU was controlled by Jews is bullshit.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)17:49 No.15958002

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)17:49 No.15958002

Replies: >>15958098

>>15957908
Now yu're not talking about Rothschild. What happen? Did you use your brain? How impressive.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)17:50 No.15958036

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)17:50 No.15958036

>>15957908
>>15957726
>>15957591
>>15957477

Maybe it's this faux antisemitism that destroyed communism, because it sure did fuck up this thread.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)17:50 No.15958043

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)17:50 No.15958043

Replies: >>15958072 >>15958193 >>15958643

>>15952219

This. There is no longer any left or right. There is only the amoral, manipulative 'neutral'.

Both the far right and (real) far left need to settle their differences to combat this destructive neutralist influence.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)17:51 No.15958072

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)17:51 No.15958072

>>15958043
my fascist

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)17:51 No.15958073

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)17:51 No.15958073

Replies: >>15958664

The problem with modern communists is that theyre cosmopolitan communist as they want multi-culturalism. Back then they were nationalist communist hence "For the Motherland!" and all the other sayings. Even now in Cuba the communist are very nationalistic. I have no Idea why western communism has turned multi-culti

>inb4 jews
probably...

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)17:51 No.15958084

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)17:51 No.15958084

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>>15951769
>what do you think caused leftism to become so wimpy?

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)17:51 No.15958098

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)17:51 No.15958098

Replies: >>15958236

>>15958002

Read those books:

http://www.amazon.de/Conjuring-Hitler-Britain-America-Third/dp/074532181X

http://www.reformation.org/wall-st-hitler.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9R22BkAkdI

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)17:52 No.15958115

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)17:52 No.15958115

>>15956566

So? You could be a German Jew.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)17:54 No.15958193

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)17:54 No.15958193

>>15958043
>Fascist

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)17:55 No.15958236

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)17:55 No.15958236

>>15958098
lel
of course some bankers found Hitler
but that's a reason, and there are many others, why we define fascism as
>Fascism is “the open terroristic dictatorship of the most reactionary, most chauvinistic, and most imperialist elements of finance capital.” Dimitrov
But i won't agree on any bullshit about fascism.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)17:55 No.15958268

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)17:55 No.15958268

Replies: >>15958442

>>15955814
If you think the reason why the lower classes are poor is that they spend their money on brand name shoes and drugs, you're the one who doesn't understand the world. If you ever lived on your own (assuming you didn't come from a wealthy background), you would understand the scope of the expenses of living: rent, utilities, food, the internet connection which you use to bash socialists over long distances. All these things cost money and lots of it.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)17:58 No.15958365

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)17:58 No.15958365

Replies: >>15958401

>>15957591

I've never seen such a huge pile of upside-down bullshit in my life.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)17:59 No.15958401

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)17:59 No.15958401

>>15958365
You must be new here.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)18:00 No.15958442

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)18:00 No.15958442

Replies: >>15958466 >>15958662 >>15958685

>>15958268
It's like you've never been out of your house, or at least opened your eyes in public.

I worked at a grocery store in high school and now I work there during the summers. I'd be lying if I told you that poor people (mostly blacks) don't come in all the time with their EBT cards and WIC (essentially food stamps for those of you who don't know) while talking on their brand new iPhones and driving home in their Cadillacs yelling at their kids with the fresh new Jordans.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)18:00 No.15958466

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)18:00 No.15958466

>>15958442
capitalism decay

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)18:05 No.15958640

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)18:05 No.15958640

Replies: >>15959083 >>15959316

>>15951836

Communists =/= Liberals

Communists are for, standing up for the minorities. Whether they be ethnic, religious, sexual orientation, whatever. But overall the name of the same is supremacy of the Proletariat over the Bourgeois. Its seeks to prevent the Bourgeois from using their immense wealth to talk over opposing view points. And to take the surplus or Capital the Bourgeois make, and to put it in the hands of the person who did the labor that made the good/did the service that generated the profit.

A communist has no problem with a factory worker making 35$ an hour. A communist has a problem with people who do largely unproductive work, manipulating numbers hording large profits for disproportionally for themselves.

The issue in the Western World is, kids from a wealthy family attending a four year college are not the Proletariat. Communist revolution will not come from them, these people are Petty-Bourgeois. Who live overly extravagant lives at the expense of the 3rd World, which their nations corporations exploit in order to inflate the standard of living at home.

So to put it simply, you are getting a bunch of wimpy ass kids as "leftists" because they live in a nice country, at is in the dominate position. They're not going to do anything, expect make Facebook posts about Kony and other stupid shit. Because they are comfortable, once they grow out of that phase they will go be hardline conservatives like the baby boomers did. And nothing expect an outside force is can change that.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)18:05 No.15958643

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)18:05 No.15958643

Replies: >>15959665

>>15958043

Neutralist influence on the left: turn them into a bunch of edgy faggots who will support anything that is, by conservative estimation, detrimental to society.

Neutralist influence on the right: turn them into a bunch of Zionist shabbos goys who will die for the national aspirations Israel while ignoring their own national aspirations.

Both left and right are being undermined out of existence by these neutralist scumbags.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)18:05 No.15958662

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)18:05 No.15958662

Replies: >>15958780 >>15958846

>>15958442
I'm not an American, sorry. Also:

>cites unemployed niggers on food stamps as representatives of the working class

What the fuck is wrong with you anyway? How do niggers with EBT cards have anything to do with blue collar workers?

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)18:05 No.15958664

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)18:05 No.15958664

Replies: >>15958997

>>15958073
Easy to explain.
Marx envisioned a worldwide Communist revolution, a unification of all workers of the world, and eventually the tearing down of borders into a worldwide stateless and classless utopia.
Early- to mid-20th century Communists believed - and based on the influence of the USSR, they believed quite correctly - that the worldwide revolution wouldn't be spontaneous in that day and age where global communication is nothing like today. So, the idea of the nation was made into the Communist idea of the vanguard party, to guide and protect the revolution. Unlike Fascism, for example, Communism uses Nationalism as a means moreso than an end in itself.

Modern-day Commies and Cultural Marxists are just fucking stupid and - following the progression of all Marxist thought - are now completely detached from reality

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)18:06 No.15958685

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)18:06 No.15958685

>>15958442
And as someone who buys from your store, I am telling you that the Cadillac bit is too much. Jordans yes, but not cadillacs.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)18:07 No.15958735

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)18:07 No.15958735

Replies: >>15958877

>>15951968
They are vocal, in fact they may have the loudest voice of all. Because they are so ever-present, you don't even realize it's a thing.

Look at the messages almost every hollywood movie and tv show puts forward. Stuff about doing the right thing, live and let live, equality in the sexes. There's your normal leftist voice.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)18:08 No.15958780

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)18:08 No.15958780

Replies: >>15958921

>>15958662
>says lower class
>gets proven wrong
>changes words to "working class"
>dem goalposts

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)18:10 No.15958846

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)18:10 No.15958846

>>15958662
We, people of color, are the of the lowest social and economic class. We have suffered because of political policy, economic lel and historical disinvestment.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)18:10 No.15958875

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)18:10 No.15958875

>>15951530 (OP)
>lefties
>not pussys who worship a kike philosophy.

Leftism is the problem those world has. If they were all eradicated like the roaches they truly are, we'd have a much safer, prosperous, and happier world.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)18:10 No.15958877

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)18:10 No.15958877

Replies: >>15958926

>>15958735
>Leftist
You mean left of right? Yeah, liberals. What about them?

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)18:12 No.15958921

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)18:12 No.15958921

>>15958780
You're a retard. Leeches aren't a class; what you're trying to do, from what I understand, is blur the line between the working class and the noncontributing elements of society. You are scum.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)18:12 No.15958926

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)18:12 No.15958926

Replies: >>15959040

>>15958877
That's the "leftist that aren't pussies". The image many young people idealize today.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)18:14 No.15958997

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)18:14 No.15958997

Replies: >>15959064

>>15958664
>eventually the tearing down of borders into a worldwide stateless and classless utopia

IDEALLY yes. But Marx was not an idealist, and was well aware that would never happen because without a state the Bourgeois would regain control. Only anarchists thing that would work.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)18:16 No.15959040

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)18:16 No.15959040

Replies: >>15959137

>>15958926
Blame the 2 party system, apologetic white people who watched and read too many "happy ending stories" and of course the obligatory Capitalism.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)18:17 No.15959064

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)18:17 No.15959064

Replies: >>15959184

>>15958997
>and was well aware that would never happen
What am I reading. Marx spent his life about something he thought was impossible. Are you stupid?

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)18:18 No.15959083

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)18:18 No.15959083

Replies: >>15959155 >>15959320

>>15958640
communism/marxism appeals to the inferior and convinces them they are an 'oppressed' group and need to rise up (and usually kill) their oppressors. liberalism is a branch of that as it takes minority groups and bumps them up with free shit or preferential hiring practices to 'fix' this supposed oppression. modern leftism is just a new flavor of communism but it is based on the same egalitarian principles that many marxists in the past also believed

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)18:19 No.15959137

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)18:19 No.15959137

>>15959040
>implying I had an issue with Hollywood's morals in the first place.

By and large I agree with a lot of the stuff that goes on in mainstream cinema, especially the stories that are outside of the blockbusters. The only ones I feel strongly against are the comedies which enforce the notion that all men are bumbling idiots and women are humorless harpies.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)18:20 No.15959155

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)18:20 No.15959155

>>15959083
I know I might sound a little ableist in saying this but I couldn't help but overhear the nonsense you were spouting from atop that tall ivory tower of yours, kiddo.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)18:21 No.15959184

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)18:21 No.15959184

Replies: >>15959313

>>15959064

If you can't even be bothered to at least read the manifesto. Don't bother speaking.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)18:24 No.15959288

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)18:24 No.15959288

Marxist-Leninsts still exist (even if their numbers are few), and they definitely aren't pussies.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)18:25 No.15959313

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)18:25 No.15959313

>>15959184

If you aren't educated enough to form a sentence, don't bother speaking.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)18:25 No.15959316

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)18:25 No.15959316

Replies: >>15959363 >>15959380 >>15959476 >>15959681

>>15958640

Typical jew-speak communist apologist nonsense

In the US, political liberals are very much communist. Many politicians have connections to communist activities.

Communism killed enough people in the 20th century. You jews can argue all you want about how it was never executed in theory and the theory is good, you're wrong. The theory is designed to bring about a borderless world led by tyrannical jews behind the curtain.

It's funny how many of these Marxists are the ones doing the unproductive work and disproportionately being rewarded for it.

There is no revolution incoming. You've been foaming at the mouth at the prospect for decades. What you will see though is a rise in fascism and extremism to combat the MINORITIY political left pretending they are representative of the majority.

This will not be a revolution, but a defensive response. You jews can try to shake up the third world hive to attack the "privileged" and "wimpy" white Aryan middle class being extorted to finance a revolution that will never happen.

I can agree to disagree with an idea, but your type is incapable of entertaining other opinions.

A truly open free market without currency speculation and interest and other scams corrupting it is the closest to a merit-based society. You can paid based on what the society considered to be worthy of merit. Not this lowest common denominator stuff that only empowers psychopaths and genetically defective 'thinkers' who are incapable of contributing to society.

The real problem is that liberalism and communism ignore the laws of nature. Sociological factors are not THE reason why the third world is starving. It's not my problem either. I have my own problems and maybe they are trivial in comparison but that doesn't solve my problems. I'm a generous person and if I can help others I will, but don't force me.

You can't kill an idea, but you can exterminate an idea's advocates (psychos, Marxists, and jews)

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)18:25 No.15959320

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)18:25 No.15959320

>>15959083
Oi vey, get off of your high horse, Bourgeoisie scum!

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)18:26 No.15959363

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)18:26 No.15959363

Replies: >>15959669

>>15959316
>jews jews jews jews jews

Why would anyone ever speak to you? I guess somebody has to bang their head against the wall for the good of the rest of us, but it's not going to be me today.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)18:27 No.15959380

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)18:27 No.15959380

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>>15959316
And Obama is a muslim bisexual communist right?

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)18:29 No.15959464

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)18:29 No.15959464

lol this thread is still alive

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)18:29 No.15959465

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)18:29 No.15959465

Replies: >>15959507

>>15951836
lol
che guevara was a fascist, he helped to installed apartheid government on nigger dominant cuba

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)18:30 No.15959476

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)18:30 No.15959476

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>>15959316

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)18:31 No.15959489

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)18:31 No.15959489

Replies: >>15959575

>>15957354

YOu can't afford those AK's and are unwilling to band together and make a productive business that would allow you to purchase them.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)18:31 No.15959507

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)18:31 No.15959507

>>15959465
>Nigger
>Implying I would take advice on who is and who isn't a Fascist from someone on /pol/ who calls dark skinned people Niggers.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)18:32 No.15959518

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)18:32 No.15959518

>>15957402

Yeah, at least we don't have statism in communism. It's the actual people who interfere in peoples lives.

Hail the people's council.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)18:32 No.15959522

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)18:32 No.15959522

>>15959476
haha
saved

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)18:32 No.15959551

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)18:32 No.15959551

Replies: >>15959700

>>15953243
>but Hitler was a horribly incompetent bully who almost destroyed a great nation

It's pretty well agreed upon by historians that if Hitler had died in 1939 he would have gone down in history as Germany's greatest leader since Arminius. He not only got Germany out of a depression much worse than what the Americans faced, he also gave Germans hope for the future and a reason to get out of bed in the morning and be productive.

It was a war against the Soviet Union and the United States that destroyed Germany not Hitler's domestic policy.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)18:33 No.15959566

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)18:33 No.15959566

>>15957449

Muh private security firm would use non-lethal sonic weaponry to make you spill your bowels.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)18:33 No.15959575

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)18:33 No.15959575

>>15959489
lol are you the same lolbertarian that's been posting in this thread for the past 4 hours?

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)18:36 No.15959648

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)18:36 No.15959648

>>15953220
Do your friends know you own a gun you baby murdering white supremacist redneck bigot inbred goat fucker?

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)18:36 No.15959665

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)18:36 No.15959665

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>>15958643

Best I can do. Someone with artistic skill should take the idea and run with it.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)18:36 No.15959669

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)18:36 No.15959669

Replies: >>15959824

>>15959363
Shut up, jew!

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)18:36 No.15959681

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)18:36 No.15959681

>>15959316

>In the US, political liberals are very much communist. Many politicians have connections to communist activities.

lol no. I believe we've reached an impasse, both sides of the fence have been taken. No middle ground is left to fight over. Your prospective does indeed work, for you. But not for everyone, especially not outside the Western World.

Your positions are, a white homeland, upholding whatever your view of morality is, and a continuation of the existing power structure, economic policies of the world. There is nothing to debate, your position is simply fuck everyone else.

Which leads to the point of a state being required, so that when countries have a communist uprising. The bourgeois are stifled and silenced. You can argue that's against the values of free speech. But at the same time would you allow discriminatory speech against you? Obviously not because you get puffed up over Communism. Or minorities in your country because it is chipping away at your position.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)18:37 No.15959687

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)18:37 No.15959687

>>15953714
>Why did they invade Russia then?

Because the Soviet Union was about to attack Germany. The German army had excellent equipment and training but also a much smaller population. If Germany could knock Russia out quickly early on then it could win a war with Russia. Waiting for the Russians to attack on their own terms would give the Russians enough time to prepare that the war would be impossible.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)18:37 No.15959698

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)18:37 No.15959698

Replies: >>15959776 >>15959797 >>15959825

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No

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)18:37 No.15959700

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)18:37 No.15959700

>>15959551
But he didn't die so:

>but Hitler was a horribly incompetent bully who almost destroyed a great nation

is still true.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)18:39 No.15959776

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)18:39 No.15959776

>>15959698
Ya know, people thought commies looked like faggots back in the day too.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)18:40 No.15959786

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)18:40 No.15959786

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>>15951530 (OP)
Thats right, leftists. Keep fighting that privilege and patriarchy. They're incredibly important issues. Social Justice and identity issues trump all others.

Don't arm yourselves, don't be aggressive, be peaceful and passive. Its the moral high road.

So how did Occupy work out for you?

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)18:40 No.15959797

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)18:40 No.15959797

>>15959698

Man that is a sad truth.

At least you could respect the old Communists.

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)18:41 No.15959824

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)18:41 No.15959824

>>15959669
You don't even know what that word means, do you?

Anonymous
06/23/13(Sun)18:41 No.15959825

Anonymous 06/23/13(Sun)18:41 No.15959825

>>15959698
why is someone "from" the black bloc even on that photo?