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Why do we continue to let progressivism/liberals destroy the minds of our youth?
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Because Jews
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>>14048244 (OP)
First off, "progressivism" is no different than communism. It has the same objectives, supporters, and values.
I have 3 theories:
1) The core issue is modern atheism. With the increased knowlege of the mechanics of nature coupled with the ignorant trend of of atheism fueled by both european ideological integration with America and massive financial and political support rich dirtbags, atheism is the core of the problem. Understand 1 important truth: Atheism, like any religion, is harmless in the minds of the intellectual but give it to the masses and their leaders and they will destroy themselves and leave a totalitarian dictatorship as a headstone.
Atheism is popular but thanks in no small part to the centers of propaganda (hollywood, MSM, colleges) pushing it in ignorant enthusiasm. It is through this popularity, assisted by its fake intellectualism, and during this time of economic depression that it compels the young masses to blindly follow.
Atheism is a danger for 2 reasons. The first is that pure atheism, claiming to champion utilitarianism, has no qualms with rejecting every other form of ethics before utilitarianism itself merely by denying the value of human life as anything more than matter. in the hands of the masses, this liberation quickly turns to mimic the "justified" horrors of the 20th century killing fields and death camps. The second reason atheism is a danger is the enevitability of totalitarianism dictatorship with the goals of men unimpeded by any moral cost they wish to incur. An atheist world would quickly fall under a single dictatorship who's chief appeal is unlimited sin. When order is assured, neither indulgent sin nor piety would survive in the man-made purgatory on earth where human life is more valued than any single tree in a forest.
The elimination of communism starts with the acknowledgment that wisdom, not man or his transient ideals, is a better leader than any mere mortal.
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>>14048244 (OP)
Because it's easier to go through life as a mindless beast.
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Because when conservatives try to get enough of an education to become college professors their friends and relatives shun them as elitist pricks.

Keep burning them books.
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The promise is that people will get what they work for.

The result is that the old system adopts this rhetoric and keeps going. Sometimes, but not always, with different figures pulling the strings.
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They believe they are saving the environment. The green movement is where these cretins have established their twisted rationale and legitimacy for their crimes.
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>>14050072
2) "Progressivism" leads to communism...as intended. The appeal of progressivism among the youth, while largely a result of popular atheism as its core ideology, is actually quite simple and Freudian: power. Through the myth that legislation and government expansion can solve all problems, support is gained by the very human need to feel powerful and in control. What better way to feel in control than by being a voter in a democracy where you can vote away human lives at the behest of scientifically-effective propaganda created by radicals with faux insight? The system's inherent instability, clearly seen in its tendancy to make new problems to solve due to the unseen costs of its solutions, will only stabilize when democracy is as dead as the system's most innocent enemies. Little do the supporters of this system of democratic dictatorship realize, the system can turn against them one day with brutality cloaked in ignorance and justification attained by more brutal or clever sophist opponents.
This unrestrained power, from atheism itself, rewards the clever, devious and devoted the most before the system, built powerful by dickless fools, is able to use the very justification of its existance to create the imaginary utopia always dreamed of by communist fools. When democracy is dead, killed by the very sword of it once swung, the unchecked power that once empowered the people to become their own worst enemy has quickly become a dictatorship run by its most effective bureaucracy and brutal instruments.

"Progressivism", American for communism, is little more than armed atheism with raw power offered to today's idealist who will soon be tomorrows radical terrorist. This bastard child of marx and satan is already eating America's future by killing liberties, using imigrants as tools of political take-over and signing away our economy to the powers who wish to hold our leash once our obediance is formalized in legislation from trans-national corporations
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Hey guys, maybe rather then just rattling off a list of leftist sounding terms at random when you make these images, why don't you actually look up what they mean and isolate the one that best describes what you're referring to, in this instance I believe State-Socialism would be most appropriate as it encompasses Marxist-Leninism (which is what I assume you mean by Marxism) as well as many other, in my eyes misguided, ideologies like it. Socialism is actually quite a broad term encompassing many ideologies, not all of which "deliver death and destruction in the end". For example about the worst Anarcho-Syndicalism can do is leave a bunch of former worker-owners bummed out about their co-op failing due to mismanagement, which is still pretty bad obviously, but it's not Stalinist level bad.

Also all this shit you talk about atheism is completely in vain, if you haven't been raised in some sort of religion the chances of you taking it up later in life are extremely slim. It just sounds too crazy to people who weren't familiarized with it as a kid, they'll just reject it out of hand like moon landing conspiracies and alien abductions, because really that's the level of plausibility and evidence it's at. Times change man, atheism is the new norm, even if most atheists don't recognize what they are and prefer to call themselves "Agnostic" or "Non-Religious" or not have a religious label at all. They're all still atheists, technically speaking, they don't believe in god actively. That's just the norm in developed countries, America being the lonely exception, get over it.
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>>14050072
>Atheism, like any religion
Stopped reading there
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>>14050072
>No religious dictatorships have ever existed in history
All dat christfag delusion.
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>>14048244 (OP)
It's a test. They're weeding out the posers. People have always been this awful. But nowadays society doesn't push them to righteousness. Now society allows degeneracy, and the people flock to it! What a suprise, right? Not really. What's going on is that the truly noble, moral people rise to the top and the others sink into depravity. I don't like it. I wish people would be church-goers again. But this shows that the majority of church-going people in history were probably just sheep following society's norm. Now that nothing good is encouraged, only the truly good seek righteousness.

Welcome to Babylon, son!
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>>14048244 (OP)

Because unless you homeschool your kids while not letting them watch TV, then you don't get a vote on it as they don't want you the parent to have a vote on how the kids for which liberals believe do not belong to the parents but belong to government and leftist society are raised.
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>>14052880

Modern mainstream atheism bears all the hallmarks of a religious cult: a fervent belief in its sole claim to truth, fear, hatred and shaming of those who do not share its beliefs, whitewashing of past abuses under atheist regimes, and a stated desire to remove its opponents from all walks of public life.

Atheism claims not to be a religion, but, as the saying goes, if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's most likely a duck.

[spoiler]I'm not even religious[/spoiler]
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Because it's politically correct. People don't like to think. When someone suggests that weaning the poor off of welfare and getting rid of other citizen-coddling government programs, everyone else shouts DAS RACISS or Y DONT YOU CARE BOUT POR PPL?! I want to believe that individuals are smart, capable, and independent, but they just aren't. People don't know what's best for them. Namely, liberty.
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>>14053574

Oh for FUCK's sake. If there's anything more retarded than a christfag (which there isn't) it's a meek agnostic faggot like yourself.
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>>14051896
3) Internal decay, misguided blame, foreign swindling of our masses, ignorance, and our impotence towards those who plot the American genocide.

Decay: We are falling apart on the inside. The decay of our nation is simple: we've lost the ability to create wealth. This problem exists due to 3 main causes:
1) The petrodollar. This global tax masks the problem but its cover is disintegrating and once gone, we will be the Wiemar Republic.
2) Inefficiency. In the name of environmentalism, government supported unionism, failing pubic school system, and general government waste. We have turned the land of freedom and potential into the land of fines, waste, red tape, and defunct factories next to busy ports with one-way trade: imports.
3) Free trade: With over 310,000,000 Americans and high unemployment, its a shame that we can't even made general merchandise for the common man/woman without being beaten half to death with taxes and regulations before the coup de grâce from free trade.

This inefficiency, harmful to us economcially, ruinous to the environment (China), toxic to our reputation (Petrodollar), and helpful only to hostile powers and ultra-rich faggots like Soros, Gates, Buffet, and others who all profit from our degradation and openly promote shit on our future for "globalist" ideals.

These sins against the greatest nation to ever exist on earth are loved, promoted, and furthered by the so-called "progressives" due to their manufactured idealism and empowered ignorance fueled by propaganda from hostile states and powerful enemy actors - at home and abroad. Those fools are selling out their own futures, families, and homeland at the behest of nations that shit on all those "progressive" ideals
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>>14048244 (OP)

Hey, i fixed the picture for you.

Let's look at the western world and have a small reality check:

> capitalists rule countries: check
> wiggers, nigger, racemixing, muh feellings: check
> national independence going down: check
> citizens getting dumber and dumber: check
> America being a prime example of what happens if you give idiots rights: check

Yep, i'm done here. Cya.
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>>14054550

Our most foolish folly and their most precious asset:Our misguided blame - While the propaganda should be obvious by now but its intent and source hard for many of you to accept, blaming the Jews and Blacks for our nation's predicament and the rise of "progressivism" is more realistically an unnecessary self-inflicted wound done in the name of blaming a SYMPTOM of our problems at the cost of the most strategically valuable allies.
The power of the Jews in media and business, for instance, is a sign of decay and the death of ingenuity. Throughout history, the Jews have always taken the mentally demanding and essential, albeit generally unwanted, careers such as accounting, business administration, and finance. The assent of Jews in media such as show business, Disney and the MSM is more a sign of business maturity, exclusionary corporate alliances, and a general shift towards market security and general upkeep rather than expansion and risk.
A Jewish assent of power is more realistically a sign of market stagnation at best or slow decline rather than proof of a Zionist power-grab and conspiracy. It is likely the "progressives", with the most to gain from division, who keep hiring people to make the same generic antisemitic threads every day including all the "do you stand with Israel" threads (textbook Divide-&-Conquer). Beside Jews are cheap while liberals spend, well, liberally.
The blacks: bearing the full brunt of "progressive" policies, the decay of much of the black population and the death of Detroit should be seen as institutionalized racism behind "progressive" political strategy. Liberal 'assistance" to the black community took the form horrendous education, economic sabotage by anti-business policies in and around black communities in the name of "the environment" or "the worker", abortion clinics instead of jobs, social division via PC bullshit, and welfare programs that only guaranteed votes and kept blacks in ghettos
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>>14055095
fuck off nwoidf
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>>14056793
"progressivism", while generally pesky to the Jews with it's "fuck economics" economic views and it's PC method of inciting antisemitism for political gain, is probably the least harmful to the Jews so long as it stays out of complete control.

Here's the deal about blacks: Progressives treat most of them like shit yet try to justify their actions by race-baiting and PC-based divide-&-conquer.
Kids keep supporting "progressive humanitarianism" either out of blind ignorance or opportunistic racism.
If we could work with, instead of against, the black community for a better future through revolt, revolution, or mass civil disobedience, saving this nation would be a piece of cake.
>guess now we know why DHS has been buying up all the urban-pistol ammo while neglecting the rural-rifle ammo
Don't the impoverished black masses realize that liberalism has neither the intent, nor the selfish incentive to improve their standard of living? Disdain of blacks due to intentionally divisive Liberal Propaganda or animosity towards the victims of "progressive" racial policies is, in the end, a victory for the shitbag libs who are willing to kill millions of Americas, regardless of race/gender/sexo in the inevitable outcome of their policies.

000 foreign swindling of our masses000
Many powerful "progressives", through their support of, appeals to, and defense-of foreign interests in our domestic policy, especially energy policies, environmental policies, and gun rights, especially when support involves money and collusion, are willingly betraying our nation. The average liberal has no real respect for the sovereignty of Azerbaijan; so, why then, are they so often supportive of influences in our politics from nations who may wish our weakening or even dissolution (China, EU, Russia)?

--Our impotence towards those who plot the American genocide--
It would be ignorant to assume, from history and observation, that "progressives" would defend American cont..
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>--Our impotence towards those who plot the American genocide--
...defend American sovereignty, the rights of her people, and her institutions! The abuses by "progressives" of blacks, their collective efforts to divide Americans racially, culturally, sexually, and so on is a clear and undeniable attack on the unity of the American people and the peace within this nation. When unified attempts by our own government and media, subtle and not so subtle, without campaigning, encourage social tensions among the people, it becomes clear that the specter of conflict is near and victory can only be assured through unity of conviction, secured by dedicated defiance of any and all urges of disunion, be they personal sentiments or enemy tactics of agitation, and vigorous suppression of any infighting.

Considering the shameless acts of oppression undertaken by "progressive" leaders against minorities, our common goals as Americans, and the common fate we will all share disunited, it is our duty to suspend our prejudices, work together, and oppose the forces of oppression.

Once united in principal and arms, Americans of all races, faiths and ethnicities will be an unstoppable force of a Just National Revival!
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5 hours in 1 thread. Damn.
But seriously, we really do have to work together and oppose the ancient and easily-defeatable divide and conquer tactic, especially when our nation is in the ballance
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>>14058647
>If we could work with, instead of against, the black community for a better future through revolt, revolution, or mass civil disobedience, saving this nation would be a piece of cake
why do idiots always think the only way to fix things is to bring about the collapse of society?
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What is the preferred school of thought for destroying the minds of our youth?
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Is it bad that i got a boner from OP's pic?
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>>14061230
>united force neither excluding nor alienating any group with common heritage/ethnicity
>Common rules
>Common justification
>Common plan
>Common understanding
>Common defense against pysops
>Common groups avoids easily exploitable tensions by minimizing the effects of agent provocaturs by cooling/settling any tensions, natural or contrived, before fear, prejudice, and anger - the tools of opposition - can render the force divided
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>>14061308

Heavily sexualized alchemy
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>>14061308
progressivism
Works pretty well.
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>>14061230
>why do idiots always think the only way to fix things is to bring about the collapse of society?

Because they're mentally ill.

Aldous Huxley was wrong. We need a shit ton more medication.
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>Rage about the evils of homosexuality and race mixing.
>Suck black cocks at the truck stop.
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>>14058647
>>Dat motivational.

>>implying obama wasn't a better, mroe republican candidate than neo-con rommie

Stay classy /pol/
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Theory for obama's bullet buys
1) economy collapses/war/other disaster
2) Cities, especially ones with many poor minorities have no bullets thanks to DHS
3) DHS, using foreign mercs dressed as billy bob attack cities.
4)DHS bullets and guns, become instant, loyal, militias dependent on DHS for bullets
5) race war leveraged by DHS/Obama
6)provoked and spontanious hostilities justify drone strikes
7) Obama gets to murder anyone he wants. and stalemates allow the kill lists to be created
8)war is contained by control of 1 side (cities) thus preventing foreign intervention
9)Obama's favorite nation, China, offers to help out. He agrees

This is why people need to work together instead of give potential dictators easy ways to split populations
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Social democracy works wonders at increasing the median standard of living. Stalinism is a catastrophic failure. Conflating the two means you're a right-winger with no counterargument, only strawmen.
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>>14062020
>Rage about the evils of homosexuality and race mixing
I hate homosexuals, true.
I don't, however, oppose race mixing. In fact, 2 of my family members are of mixed decent and 1 of my family members is Muslim.
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>>14063527
These are all too conspiratorial for me. I think Obama simply buys up shitloads of ammo to bring up ammo prices, as a form of gun control.

More expensive ammo = indirect gun control.

Does he really need more of a motive than that considering his stance is to make firearms harder to use/harder to buy?

The actual affect that buying these rounds has had is to make k start claiming they can't find ammo, that ammo's a dollar per round, and all that shit, so that's the obvious real intention of the buy. He's not planning a genocide with the ammo buys, he's just attacking gun rights without legislation. Simple as that.
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>>14063581
>Conflating the two means you're a right-winger with no counterargument, only strawmen.
ironic statement.

What about Pol Pot, Mao, or even Lenin? What about the atrocities of Mexico and Spain during their communistic experiments.

Communism, by its very nature, becomes oppressive. You cannot change the very essence of man's desires and will without changing him. Democracy, while the supposed ideal of socialism/communism, is little more than a hood orniment who's removal can be quick, simple, and justified with any number of excuses.
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>>14063669
The bullets he bought were handgun bullets. This led to 2 predictable events:
1)Country folk bought up assult rifles and ammo.
2)City folk, usually unable to buy rifles and thus stuck with pistols were SOL. Craigslist and the market will drain the rest of the city bullets quickly.

While I have other, differing theories, you have to admit: this really did disarm the city folk and arm the shit out of the country folk. A few false flag attacks and Obama could be king by leveraging raceism and fear
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>>14063979
I don't know the statistics on who bought what, city vs country, so I can't admit that. It sounds reasonable, but just because something does doesn't mean it's actually the case.

The idea may have simply been, "pass assault weapons bans" and then soft regulate handguns by buying up all the ammo. All I'm saying is, the actual real consequence of these government buys is that now ammo costs a lot more than it did before them, so it makes the most sense to assume that the consequence was the intention (barring the claim of incompetency).
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>>14064348
And of course the assault weapons ban failed (incompetency), but the ammo buy still made it hard for people to buy ammo.

Most of the people that rushed to buy firearms and ammo already had both, so it effectively prevented the already disarmed people from arming, or at least chilled them from doing so.
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So the real intention is simple:
1. Scare existing gun owners into buying more guns. They will buy rifles.
2. Raise handgun ammo prices a huge amount, make handgun ammo scarce.
3. People who are not already armed, now find it much more difficult to buy firearms/ammo.

In this way, gun control is a huge success. That's why you hear people saying other people are "too late" to buy their AR15, because Obama successfully price restricted it without needing to pass a law.
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>>14064348
Deep down I think there's probably some understandable reason but one that's hidden by partisan politics and conspiracy theories. If Obama pulled you behind closed doors and told you the reason, you'd probably understand the necessity for its secrecy while also coming to admire the psychological tricks used to fool more than 1 segment of the population. For all we know, 99% of those bullets are going to rebels in Russia, China, Brazil, Venizuela, or some other strategic target.

Obama can easily hide anything he does by playing the clumsy "sneaky liberal". Remember Fast and Furious? I guarantee you it wasn't done to ban guns or track them. Heck, the shooting could have been staged or carried out by another party for strategic reasons.

The problem with Obama is that he creates more than 3 different understandable observations with every move he makes or is thought to have made.

One thing we can be sure of is this: They knew people would buy tons of guns and ammo once gun control was brought up. It's easier to assume that Obama's real intentions with guns is quite the opposite of what he shows off.

Gun control will never happen in the US except in certain cities. Considering we own the british commonwealth, its in our best interest that they always require our assistance if invaded
however, for this nation itself, tons of guns everywhere is strategically beneficial for our security.
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>>14064635
Strategically speeking, one thing we can be sure of is this: had aurora and sandy hook never occured, an invasion and occupation of the United States, with most ammo sittting in stores and warehouses, would have been much easier for the invader but much more clusterfucked for us due to people looting gun shops.

You remember how DPRK and China quit sabre rattling? I'd imagine a second assessment of American defensive firepower made victory both improbable and maybe impossible. We'll find out in 60 years or so when all this shit is de-classified
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>>14053768
there's a church of atheism that holds sunday services.
this guy is 100% right. stop being butthurt


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