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http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jensiebelnewsom/the-mask-you-live-in

Thoughts on this?
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Males obviously are more sincere, feel emotions more powerfully, and are generally more capable of effecting change in their lives than females.
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ALL ABOARD THE CULTURAL MARXISM TRAIN

FEELINGS SHIELD ENGAGED
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good, little boys are loud, filthy and disgusting.

Little girls grow into little women.

keep up the good work
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>>18192670
In America, little girls more often grow into gigantic obese women.
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That's because men constantly lust for violence. If they have no one around to do it to, they'll do it to themselves.

There's a reason they make up a disproportionate amount of criminals.

inb4 PIDF.
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>>18190601 (OP)
Not surprised. Boys and men are constantly told they have to suppress their feelings and deny their emotions because it somehow makes you "manly" to dishonestly lie and deny one of the most crucial parts of every person, their emotions.

Feminism is shit but I would be thrilled to live in a society where I'm not called a "gay ass fucking faggot" for admitting how I feel.
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>bwuhuhu masculinity
>lets make a little useless faggot out of him
Denying the nature of the beats, stupid whore.
I would throat fuck her by the way.
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>>18190601 (OP)

>its ok for boys to cry and talk about feelings
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>>18190601 (OP)
>hAt a young age, boys learn that to express compassion or empathy is to show weakness. They hear confusing messages that force them to repress their emotions, establish hierarchies, and constantly prove their masculinity. They often feel compelled to abide by a rigid code of conduct that affects their relationships, narrows their definition of success and, in some cases, leads to acts of violence resulting in what many researchers call a “boy crisis.” Our society’s failure to recognize and care for the social and emotional well-being of our boys contributes to a nation of young men who navigate adversity and conflict with an incomplete emotional skill set. Whether boys and later men have chosen to resist or conform to this masculine norm, there is loneliness, anxiety, and pain.

yeah, feminist propaganda. Takke this shit away
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>>18192829

>the nature of the beats

Coincidentally, the name of my first album.
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>>18192804

>>>/lgbt/
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Testosterone is nasty stuff. Makes you angry and violent. It'd be banned if it wasn't natural and, um, necessary for the continued existence of humanity
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>>daw, feel sorry for the little homosexual faggots who kill themselves out of self-pity

nah, that's okay. It's called natural selection such weak pussies put an end to themselves. #realmenaren'tpussies
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I'd like to see some studies comparing the number of *attempted* suicides and successful suicides by gender and what this means to the validity of suicides statistics.
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>>18192990
Men are better at it
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Lol they are blaming violence on masculinity. Maybe these kikes should consider that eliminating all competition in school and our society leaves young boys no valve for their pressure that comes with growing up. There is just so much wrong with this bullshit, holy fuck.
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right now, DNA is fusing inside my testicles.

I'm going to shoot it on my girlfriend's face later, then she's going to go make me a sandwich.
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>>18192874
Naw fuck that. This crap makes me angry.
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>a black boy
>a Hispanic boy
>an Asian boy
>a white boy
Hmm... something is missing.
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>>18192804

Well tuff shit fggt. You're stuck with the expectation of not being a complete homo. Enjoy.
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>>18193020
OR men are just more socially pathetic in general and less likely to have friends who will stop them from going over the edge.

I guess spiny, angst-filled misanthropy pays off, right guys?
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>>18192804
>no emotions
>no feelings
Where is the problem? Emotions are manipulative and will keep you from making right decisions, especially if they are unpleasant. That's why men rule the world, not women.
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>>18193350
You must be mad as fuck
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>>18193350
No, men are just better at it.
>In the United States, the male to female suicide death ratio varies between 3:1 to 10:1.[15] Typically males die from suicide three to four times more often as females, and not unusually five or more times as often. Females report attempting suicide at a higher rate than males in the United States. When accounting for parasuicide, the rate between males and females shifts to 1:2.
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>>18193581
Why would I be mad? I'm content with my life, unlike you jokers, circle-jerking about how these lonely guys are emotionally circling the drain because of everyone in society but themselves.
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Higher risk of suicide is a fair price to pay for male privilige
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>>18193612
>Females report attempting suicide at a higher rate than males in the United States.

My sides are dust.
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>>18193781
>because of everyone in society but themselves.
Top lel, we are talking about suicide not murder
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>>18193612
As I said, females are more likely to be socially connected, even if they're anti-social, and most-often have people who can and will stop them, considering the wider social support network.

Misanthropic men are usually loners, because they think it's the manly thing to do.

Although I do always find it funny when men take pride at how efficiently they can kill themselves. It's kinda creepy, but somehow humorous. Good job fellas. Make your mamas proud.
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>>18190601 (OP)

Poor parenting. idgaf about kids being fucking pathetic because they werent raised well.
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So disgusting. These people live in a fucking bubble.
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>>18190601 (OP)
It's normally the ugly kids. And don't be all like "oh anon, ugly is in the eye of the beholder" because to say that masks the problem. Ugly kids get bullied and ridiculed unless they're large/intimidating.

Todays world has no place for us uglys.
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>>18193893
lol I know, that's what's so funny about that attitude.
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>>18193901
You missed this:

>Females report attempting suicide at a higher rate than males in the United States.

Please attempt to explain why women ATTEMPT suicide at a greater rate. Having a social network helps explain the greater rate of failure, but why is their rate of attempts higher to begin with?
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>>18193930
>bawwwwwwww
How about you get /fit/ and stop crying you mong. You don't have a disease, you're just not pretty. Oh fucking well. How about you make yourself useful instead of whining about how you don't have life on easy mode.
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>>18193930
And you can thank the media for that.
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>>18193992
I am fit. I'm 31 currently in the air force. We're talking about children here idiot.
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Speaking of KickStarter, did that little girl ever produce an RPG game to show her brothers off? You know the one I'm talking about.
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>>18193901
>and most-often have people who can and will stop them,
No you moron, look up what parasuicide means. They attempt suicide to attention whore, while men stay purposely away from all contacts because they know it might fuck with their plans, stay retarded.
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Yeah this is feminist propaganda. Michael Kimmel is a known gender feminist who publishes anti-male studies. Blast it with patriarchy.
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>>18193941
Because they never planned on dieing, the just want to make a half assed attempt so that people will pay attention to them.
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>"Latest figures suggest a large number of female suicides attributed to an overwhelming sense of male privilege, to which the oppression becomes unbearable for women"
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>>18192835
>JIDF detected
before the 1940s, it was consinder very masculine to cry (at appropriate moments) and write about their feelings.
When George Washington gave speeches, his men would often burst into tears.
Then WWII happened and...
>Be a man, goyim, die for your country
>Don't feel remorse about your dead friend and start crying, that isn't manly goyim.
>don't question the war, goy
So yea, JIDF
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>>18192917
>naturalistic fallacy
>believes the continued existence of humanity is good
pleb
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>>18192670
dayum that's sexy

but it could be a man
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>>18193941
Because most of the time, a suicide attempt is a veiled cry for help. If these women actually wanted to die, they'd probably be dead. Many people subconsciously sabotage their attempt for this reason.

What I find funny is how men online laud men who committed suicide thoroughly, even though they're dead and that's... it. That is their crowning life achievement, thorough death.

This is then celebrated among men online as a victory over women.

Then people wonder why so many modern, technologically savvy males trend towards suicidal death and misanthropy.
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>kikestarter
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>>18194076
I'm just pissed there are enough useful idiots who donated. Nothing good comes from effeminate movements. That cunts need a good dry buttfucking, my dick can take it, for all of us.
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>>18194153
kill yourself
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>>18194227
Why would I do that?
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>>18194260
Prevent existance of humanity
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>>18194147
It was never manly to be a weepy bitch, go away schlomo.
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>>18194289
No that would just prevent MY existence, silly. I need to stop babies from being born so continued suffering will ultimately cease, killing myself doesn't help.
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>>18194147
It still is for the most part. Women just that turn the whole crying thing against us. Especially because men and women don't cry about the same things.
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>>18194212


So kind. Thank you, brother.
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>>18194207
>Because most of the time, a suicide attempt is a veiled cry for help.

Some social skills if you need to attempt to kill yourself to get some support.

>What I find funny is how men online laud men who committed suicide thoroughly

[citation badly needed]. Pure, unadulterated conjecture that's also bullshit.

>Then people wonder why so many modern, technologically savvy males trend towards suicidal death and misanthropy.

First of all:

>misanthropy

youkeepusingthatword.jpg

Secondly, people in the first world in general are modern and tech savvy in this day and age. That qualifier qualifies nothing.

Your argument continues to be "Herp derp men hate people and that hatred drives them to kill themselves," with nothing but blatant disdain (dare I say hatred?) of men to back it up.
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>>18194325
Got to start somewhere
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>>18194421
But I couldn't do anyone else if I killed myself
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>>18193495
You're fucking pathetic if you actually believe this.

You clearly do not even understand the role emotions play in your life if you think that you have any choice over whether they exist.

Whenever you react in any way, that is an emotion.
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>>18194075
>>18194108

>Because they never planned on dieing

The parasuicide rate is 2X higher in women.

For reference, look at Sylvia Plath. "Attempted" suicide several times.

And she probably only succeeded with the oven by accident.

On the other hand, men get depressed, attempt to reach out and are told to man up (not always over MUH EMOTIONS), decide they're done, pull out a gun or jump off a bridge, and end it.
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>>18194443
>Whenever you react in any way, that is an emotion.
women
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>>18194523
Not him but you might be retarded
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>>18194523
You just reacted negatively to the idea of emotion and linked it to your associated memory of women.

That is an emotional reaction, pal.

What the hell do you Conservatives think emotions are? All feelings are bad because you're too emotionally weak to confront and understand them?

You do realize that even the faggiest of Liberals is more in touch with their emotions and willpower than the Conservative base is, right?

Maybe this is why no one wants to include you guys.
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>>18194382
>Some social skills if you need to attempt to kill yourself to get some support.
I said that women are more likely to have a social support network. Please learn a tad bit of reading comprehension. It would serve you well.

>Pure, unadulterated conjecture that's also bullshit.
lol read the thread dingus, pick out how many men strut about in victory poses at the mention of the higher rate of successful male suicide over women and think, for a second, about the implications of this.

>misanthropy
Yes, I keep using the word, because it applies to a great many suicidal people, especially angst-ridden men, especially those misanthropic and angst-ridden men who frequent this site, and especially those on /r9k/ and /pol/.

>Secondly, people in the first world in general are modern and tech savvy in this day and age. That qualifier qualifies nothing.
Whatever you say.

>Your argument continues to be "Herp derp men hate people and that hatred drives them to kill themselves," with nothing but blatant disdain (dare I say hatred?) of men to back it up.
I never said that men inherently hate people, I said that they are less likely to have a social support network and more likely to cut themselves off from people.

Can you be any more of a whiny victim right now?
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>>18194443
Grow some balls faggot, i'm sorry it hurts your feelings but that's reality. Also what do you not understand about controlling emotions?
>Whenever you react in any way, that is an emotion.
I guess that is based on your extensive basement experience, too bad it's wrong.
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>>18194596
Liberal is the political ideology of overconfidence, Conservatism is the political ideology of fear.
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>>18194638
>all that misanthropy and bile
You must be a happy and emotionally healthy male.
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>>18194596
>associated memory of women
It's factual that women tend to be irrational because they rather listen to emotions and feelings than logic and reason.
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>>18194705
I am, and i think it's funny that you are so irritated by it.
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>>18190601 (OP)
Yeah, but he isn't going to do so over stupid facebook shit, so people don't seem to care.
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>>18194717
In the same vein, it's factual that men tend to fly off the handle over rudimentary territorial disputes and testosterone-driven pissing contests instead of working out their issues in a modern, civil manner for the betterment of all.

Because MUH MASCULINITY amirite?

Bunch of hypocritical faggots ITT.
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>>18194596
>You just reacted negatively
i reacted with a response indicating that in general is it women who believe that any reaction is a result of emotions bc it is they who act based on emotion instead of logic.

you are projecting. bc of course, everyone is like you, right?
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>>18194762
I find it funny that you think you're emotionally healthy, and that I'm irritated by the blatant personal issues of an anonymous poster.

I hope you learn to deal with your emotions in a healthy manner, anon. I really do.
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Jennifer Siebel Newsom speaking to her son Hunter in private

>Hunter: "Is it true what you said in the documentary? We shouldnt subject ourself to the rules, stereotypes of masculinity?
>Jennifer: "No ofcourse not, you should be dominant, clever and sly in this world my son"
>Hunter: "But you said.."
>Jennifer: "We are suppose to fool the goys son, any angle we can use for our own profit, our gain, we will use it without any hesitation, they mean nothing to us, they are meant to be used and fooled. The weak ones will always die out, they will give their shekels to us on their own will. Anyone who isn't us is an enemy, you must do this. This is the mask we live in. Now go ahead and use and abused those whores, establish dominance over your fellow peers, they are nothing but meat puppets"
>Hunter: "Yes mother, you are right, it will be done"
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>>18194153
To say that testosterone would be banned if it weren't natural (that's the best interpretation I can take from what you said) isn't the naturalistic fallacy. It's value-free. I'm pretty sure anyone who uses the term "naturalistic fallacy" in ordinary conversation is a tryhard. And even if he had said that it was good that wouldn't be the naturalistic fallacy, because saying something is good isn't a fallacy. That'd just be pseudointellectual dickery.

As with testosterone, he has not taken a position on the desirability of the continued existence of humanity either. So, wrong on both counts.

>>18194227
You know, I could've just written this reply.
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>>18194936
Bullshit, any real Jew would know that the plural of goy is goyim.
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>>18195000
I agree. Silly goy trying to slander us.
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>How is the misrepresentation of women in media connected to the underrepresentation of women in power? Jennifer Siebel Newsom answers this question in her film Miss Representation.

Cultural Marxism strikes again.
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look at that ugly abomination on the bottom right. This is why race-mixing is bad
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So is this woman legitimately pointing out that no one gives a shit about the suffering of men and this is something that should change?

Or is she just using the suffering of men as leverage to demonize gender roles and "smash the patriarchy"?

I got mixed signals from the video, it's probably the latter though.
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>>18194820
Look, we have an effeminate faggot right here. He is not able to cope with competition and imposed rank order, so he chooses to do what a women would do, which is 'collaborating' in an unstructured manner, which of course is destined to utterly fail because his little circle jerk never bothered to erect a hierarchy which is of utmost necessity for every kind of teamwork.
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>>18195100
>bawwwwwww
I rest my case.
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>>18195100
>a hierarchy which is of utmost necessity for every kind of teamwork.
this. ever wonder why after thousands of years of military and war...where the same basic rules of evolution apply (i.e. natural selection dictated by life and death)...hierarchy's are not only superior but necessary?
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>>18194873
The fact that it is hard to accept for you just makes it more amusing. Maybe you could understand it if you would waste less time being gender confused.
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Single mothers aggravate the shit out of this. Also, boys will be boys. It wasn't until recently we weren't hacking off noses and ears for petty bullshit. People act like because suddenly being violent is illegal that our nature will suddenly stop. Then they complain about it and try to fix it. I'm indifferent on the link.
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>>18194463
>And she probably only succeeded with the oven by accident.
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>At a young age, boys learn that to express compassion or empathy is to show weakness. They hear confusing messages that force them to repress their emotions, establish hierarchies, and constantly prove their masculinity. They often feel compelled to abide by a rigid code of conduct that affects their relationships, narrows their definition of success and, in some cases, leads to acts of violence resulting in what many researchers call a “boy crisis.” Our society’s failure to recognize and care for the social and emotional well-being of our boys contributes to a nation of young men who navigate adversity and conflict with an incomplete emotional skill set. Whether boys and later men have chosen to resist or conform to this masculine norm, there is loneliness, anxiety, and pain.

So.. masculinity itself is bad now? All men should be weak, girly fags?

Wasn't the entire point of feminism to make women more like this? They're doing the opposite and ruining greatness even in men! Fucking incredible, man.
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>>18195181
>implying we're where we "should be" as a species
>implying evolution is teleological and that even if it were, we know the final goal of it
>implying evolution has "rules"
>implying cooperation isn't the most important aspect of our continued survival as a species as stated by Darwin himself, not war, where we literally kill ourselves
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>>18194294
You're a fucking idiot. Greek culture thought crying was the fucking manliest thing you could do, and women lacked men's passion (Like wrath, love and sadness).
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>>18195159
No argument, that's what i expect from a woman. Just keep it in mind, you are the bottom. If you keep that in the back of your head your life wont be to miserable.
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Hierarchy is the natural order of life, it will be there naturally wheter you try to fight it or not.

The only ones complaining about hierchy is beta feminized weaklings who cant cope with it, they are at the bottom but suddenly think they can rise above it, they cant its just the animal trapped in a corner response.
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>>18195223
Mhm. Let it out.
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>>18195305
>Greeks
>Getting an opinion on what's manly or not

Holy shit are you serious?
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>>18195050
The ugly kid on the bottom right is FUCKED! Ten dollars says he suicided by 16.
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>>18195302
Brothers usually fight each other, its a form of toughing each other up making the "tribe stronger". Same in school were everyone rips on each other, it promotes strength.

Also, too many wills of too many people in this world leads to the game of pure dominance.
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>>18195302
>implying cooperation isn't the most important aspect of our continued survival as a species as stated by Darwin himself

>implying cooperation precludes hierarchy
>implying infinite time and immortality
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>>18195387
>It was never manly
>Well ok it was, but never in MY society in the era I've been living. Which is all that matters.

Are those goalposts heavy?
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>>18190601 (OP)
It's a feminist disguising feminist propaganda as mens right messages. It blames men for all male problems and tells them to behave more like women.
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>>18195314
You ignored that you made my argument for me when you flew off the handle and defended war, aggression, and harsh imposition of primal pack structure as inherently male nature.

Why are you so determined to cast men as un-evolved beasts, incapable of cooperation outside of violently snarling at one another like a pit hound pecking order? It's downright insulting to men.
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>>18192804
Men are more likely to kill themselves because they have more responsibility but are no longer being prepared for it. They look into the future and it looks hopeless.
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>>18195502
Greeks don't get an opinion. What did the Romans think about crying?
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>>18195294
They got wind of it that they can't live up to men, that's why they try to cut the sausage from the other end now.
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>egalitarians

>why are our boys in crisis

>it can't be because of feminism and feminist legislature and the impact of feminism in culture

>no it's because of "muh masculinity" taking our boys down the path to suicide

I hate these people.
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>Compared to a girl the same age, a boy in adolescence is 7 times more likely to die by his own hand.

>look at statistics for race.

>White children are the highest group by far.

>Picture is multicultural.

fuck this gay earth
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>>18195441
>implying you can even have a hierarchy to circle-jerk about without cooperation

It's rather difficult to have a "hierarchy" of one, anon.
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>>18192835
People forget that Odin was also a god of poetry. The masculine image has shifted over time to a destructive place.

>>18192990
>attempted suicides to completed ones
What's more interesting is the reasons for suicide between genders and the relation between those issues between genders. Women are just as likely to list loneliness as core reason for suicide as men but when you look at studies in loneliness, women are more likely to say they are lonely while men are more likely to be lonely. That relates to women's lack of emotional disciplining in their gender role mainly which leads them to self-punishment. The "attempted suicides" are usually overdoses in medication or things that aren't done with the full intent of death but the intent of non-improvement. That's what the gap was explained with in 2002.

>>18195690
It's an element of both. We start one part of the discussion, we open ourselves up to the second.
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>>18193125
I know, the lack of girls in this documentary is disgusting.
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>>18195690
>>18195706
If you weren't poisoned in the mind for your entire life by testosterone, maybe you would understand that hating people isn't the answer to your problems.
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>>18195079

She's blaming the suffering of men on gender roles and "masculinity."

The implications of this is that all patriarchal remnants in our culture must be destroyed to ultimately "cure" our men.

It's pretty clear that it's part of the work meant to put femininity above all else in culture.
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>>18195690
Masculinity is a construct created by women. Why does /pol/ obsess over it so much?
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>>18195730
>People forget that Odin was also a god of poetry. The masculine image has shifted over time to a destructive place.
Language is masculine. Undifferentiated physical reality is feminine, division and labeling is masculine. The Platonic form is masculine, physicality is feminine. Being is masculine, becoming is feminine.

do u even tradition?
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>>18194596

But you were the one who reacted emotionally to his post. Not only that, you then went on projection your emotions onto his one word post.

>>18194523

All this guy did was state that someone who reacts emotionally to everything in their life is most likely a woman. He also did it in one word.

It seems that you're the one too emotionally weak to have any sort of discussion with someone who disagrees with you on a philosophical level because when presented with opposition you reduce yourself to name calling and profanity.
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>>18195825

No, their straw man of masculinity is a construct. Masculinity as it is and was through human history, the unique differences that distinguish men from women, is very different from what they portray it as.
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>2013
>not being a stoic
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>>18195606
You are some phenomenally stupid fuck, male aggression is still the sole foundation of our society. It's the most efficient way of putting structure into humanity and it will stay like that because women lack the necessary traits to keep this society alive since this world is inherently hostile. But your utter delusional world view bears you from understanding that, there is nothing violent or primitive about it.
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>>18195774
0.5/10
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>>18195706
>I hate people.
>Throwing insults instead of looking at the point raised.

White males are the highest suicide group bar non. It is a travesty that people still are not addressing this.
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>>18195774
>hate
It's being able to accept and understand a problem. Another wisdom brought you by testosterone.
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>>18195660
They did it while spreading eachothers' anuses before a large battle
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>>18195774

Maybe if you understood what hate actually was and why it was important you wouldn't be such a fucking faggot.
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>>18190601 (OP)
THE PLEDGE IS REACHED

HALLELUJAH WE FINALLY GET THE RECOGNITION AS WORKING MEN THAT WE DESERVE
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I don't see why women and men can't stop fighing. I mean damn they are different yes but the problem is people that try to close the natural differences with force and rule and law. It's wrong. They are naturally different, let the people be free and the free order will determine what roles the people decide for themselves. Men naturally work towards certain career paths and they usually differ from women's. For instance men in engineering and women in nursing.

Everyone needs to stop the bitching, constant social movements, constant whining for "equality". The closest thing you can get to equality is allowing the people to be free, decide for themselves and leave out state force.

You cannot and should not try to legislate and rule over behavior that doesn't directly harm someone. It's stupid. Our social lives and preferences are our own. The fact that I may be an engineer and 90 percent of the others are male doesn't mean you should start saying that the business is sexist or stupid shit like that, doesnt mean you should try and force more women to accept the role. It means they don't want the job.

I'm terrible at wording things today and I'm on a phone but that's just how I feel.
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>life is hard for boys

>lets make them girls
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>>18196325

Too late, your social construct of male domination is coming to an end. We are all equal.
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>>18196412
>We are all equal.
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>equal
This was never about equality.
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>>18196412
If we truly are I have no problem with that. If one group dominates the job market and is more successful fairly though, well that doesn't need to be hindered by laws and rules.

I'm saying leave it all alone on the state and law level. No "equal opportunity" acts or such things. If the market has more females in a certain field that's fine, if it has more males that's fine, if the males get payed more on average, that's fine. Things aren't naturally equal and neither are people. That is something you must accepts. Inequality isn't all bad though, and neither is diversity. Differing thoughts and opinions are healthy for innovation and growth.
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>>18194820
>fly off the handle over rudimentary territorial disputes and testosterone-driven pissing contests instead of working out their issues in a modern, civil manner for the betterment of all.
that would be easy if women would stop holding their pussies hostage and only wanting to fuck the best men of the pack. with no women, it is the men who work together in a modern, civil manner for the betterment of all.

>requesting social experiment in class with the candy link
>requesting women owned and operated business link
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>>18195730
>The "attempted suicides" are usually overdoses in medication or things that aren't done with the full intent of death but the intent of non-improvement.
That would make sense.
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"micheael kimmel" Stopped reading right there, this is a gynocentric look at the male, in other words feminism trying to pass as mra, fail.
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>>18196561

Except that is not something that a liberal can possibly understand. Everything you have referred to is a social construct that can be fixed through social legislature.
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>>18196675
That's what I don't understand. They don't embrace change and progress they force it. And the kind of progress and change they force isn't always good. (In fact it never is because of force)
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>>18195100
Now why is there inherent competition between men socially? What causes that?
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>>18196325
But that's the problem, all the SJW don't want to leave you alone.
First they make little fags out of boys by killing everything boys like, and then they bitch that they are frustrated and misguided. Of course they will fix that by making even bigger faggots out of them. That all plays along with the other bullshit, like the gender crap and the push for 'equality'.
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>>18196675
god bless the frankfurt school, cultural marxism and critical theory. all hail the dawning of the new age. fucking jews.
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>>18196759
Wanting to be on the top, because that gives you the most pussy and influence.
Want to kill masculinity? Kill femininity first.
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>>18196830
And what makes men want to be on the top more than women?
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>>18196859

Testosterone
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>>18196914
Do you have a citation to prove that?
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>>18196859
lol. bc we are the penetrator and women are the penetratee
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>>18196727

You're one of those people that think abolishing the minimum wage would bring a new Golden Age of industry to the United States, aren't you.
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>>18196859
Probably the same thing that keeps you from killing yourself. Also the fact that it's an inherent part of life to spread you seed as much as possible, something women cant due to biological reasons.
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So guys, how do we stop the feminist menace?

Legitimately asking.
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>>18196983
I don't claim that it will bring a golden age but I would definitely like to see it gone. I would like to work for whatever I can not what the government says I can. Furthermore I would like to hire work for what I think it's worth rather than the government telling me what it's worth without any insight into the job I'm going to have the employee do or any knowledge of my business.
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>>18196959

>do u hab a citation

It's called observation of mammalian nature. The one constant between practically all mammals is sexual dimorphism and the males having a ton of testosterone. The resultant behavioral patterns of mammals throughout the world, throughout all our biodiversity, is that the males compete through physical violence for dominance over the females and resources.
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>>18197044
stop the jews, and all else will follow

legitimate answer
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>>18197066

Yeah, and if you observe nature you'll find out that pedophilia is abhorrent and homosexuality is a completely natural and advantageous thing.
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>>18197071

How do you stop the Jews?

And assuming we stop the Jews but feminism is still around, how do you put women back in their place?
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>>18197066
>males compete through physical violence for dominance over the females
males compete through physical violence for dominance over other males. and females gravitate toward and desire to mate with the dominant males.
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>>18197044
we don't. the gays will do it for us. Gay men are still men, and have way more juice than the feminists right now. once the homo's start getting their collective balls trampled on by the fem's you will see a huge backlash.

feminists already despise gay men and trans because they think they are "cheating" their way out of being part of the patriarchy.
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>>18197157

That is what I said. Dominance over other males gives you dominance over females and resources.
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>>18197149
Tell him you dropped two schekel, but actually drop only one.
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>>18197149
>how do you put women back in their place?
nature trumps social constructs. they will assume the place of the natural woman just as men will assume their place as the natural man.
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>>18197066
>It's called observation of mammalian nature
So it's anecdotes and generalizations?
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>>18197224

And yet we're not seeing that at all.
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>>18197109

How is homosexuality advantageous?

>pedophilia is abhorrent

Yes, I agree.
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>>18197170

Mainstream feminism has nothing against homosexuals.

Wait a fucking second, are you guys bitching about radical feminism? The kind that doesn't actually hold any real power?
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>>18197257
bc of the jews' concerted effort to destroy the goyim's nations and societies.
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>>18197257
As soon as life gets rough.
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>>18190601 (OP)
women attempt suicide more
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>>18197273
>How is homosexuality advantageous?

Non-reproducing pack members that produce resources to reproducing pack members, often even taking the role of secondary mothers/fathers.
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>>18197273
>How is homosexuality advantageous?
population control...but that's only for natural homosexuality (that miniscule percentage that is actually genetic)
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>>18196354
I just read that in Heavy's voice.

haha
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>>18197312

Ok now you're just getting tinfoil on me.

>>18197316

Life was pretty rough during the Great Recession, and all we saw was women becoming more and more equal in society.

Why are you guys seriously so afraid of women being equals to men?
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>>18197364
>but that's only for natural homosexuality (that miniscule percentage that is actually genetic)

>miniscule percentage

[Citation needed]
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>>18195079
I imagine it's probably that whole "men are hurt by the partriarchy too!!!11" thing.

But I think it is a fair point to at least compare the two genders so we can have some sympathy and understanding. Related:

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/Entertainment/story?id=1526982

Also, any story involving a woman playing as a man in an MMO or visa versa
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>>18196830
>Kill femininity first.
The problem is femininity is long dead, modern women behavior is worse than a hooker 60 years ago.
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>>18197389
>and all we saw was women becoming more and more equal in society.
That actually happened before the recession.
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This thread proves that you are all gender insecure. Most of the replies do not even relate to the topic of the video : The fact that media and society lessons masculinity as it stands harms male children and adults.

It harms their health, their mental health, their educational and job opportunities because of peer promoted version of masculinity. A good example of this is where we have middle schoolers who think that jobs related to cooking, fashion, booksmarts ,and arts are considered feminine despite the fact that we have plenty of male chefs, professors, fashion designers, and artists!

Thanks for proving that you are all gender insecure.
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>>18197436

And are you saying it stopped due to the Recession?
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>>18190601 (OP)
Nothing but standard feminist propaganda. Blame men for being men.
The standard leftist mantra of "we didn't go far enough".

The effects of decades of male feminization can no longer be ignored, boys are failing miserably in school and an heroing in record numbers. What's the feminist response? "Boys need more feminization".

While there are some completely valid points raised in in the video, feminization is not the solution, it's a large part of the problem.
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>>18197389
>Ok now you're just getting tinfoil on me.
look up the foundations of the frankfurt school and cultural marxism. also look at how the jews are the most adamant about not race-mixing then attack all others who wish to retain their national identity.
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>>18197424
>modern women behavior is worse than a hooker 60 years ago.

I'm really beginning to believe you guys are a prime example of mass Madonna/Whore Complex.

>Women are either pure waifus or slatterns, not anything in the middle.
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>>18197301
>The kind that doesn't actually hold any real power?
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>>18197498

>If I connect enough newspaper headlines together with bits of colored string, I'll unlock the conspiracy!
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>>18197389
Because it's not about equality for them.
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>>18197526

You guys are literally no better than tumblr.

You're bitching and moaning about perceived slights even when they're either anecdotal cases, taken out of context, or entirely fabricated.
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>>18195079
>So is this woman legitimately pointing out that no one gives a shit about the suffering of men and this is something that should change?
Yes.

>>18197319
Women's attempted suicide are out of self-harm than intent of death. Suicide attempts with intent of death are considerably higher for men than women.

>>18197459
>all
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>>18197463
It took a break, if you have nothing to bite you reconsider your preferences fast.
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>>18197562

Yeah it is? Feminism isn't some monolithic entity; there are plenty of schools in it, and the moderates are still in control.

Radical feminists however have embraced the might of the Internet, and that's why they're so visible to you guys.
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>>18197459

The reason all of those are considered feminine is because of feminism. Those were all male-dominated up until feminism supplanted men in all those areas.
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>>18197520
>SRS pls.

Most modern western women are whores and are not deserving of respect, not saying men are any better but still.

Don't act like you can go 10+ years getting your cunt pounded into something that looks like smashed spam can, and scraped like a fish anytime you forget your birth control and think your deserving of respect.
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>>18197650

When economic times are tough people also start seeing Socialism and Communism as "pretty good-looking ideas."

Does that mean Socialism/Communism is the economic ideal, and we're not allowed them due to our Capitalist masters?
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>>18197681
>Most modern western women are whores and are not deserving of respect, not saying men are any better but still.

What's your definition of whore.
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>>18197735
Too stupid to use protection has/had a STD, kids out of wedlock, or has had an abortion.

I
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>>18197697
Nice strawman, funnily it's mainly women who push that crap. Look how all the femnazi groups riddle against capitalism. What is shows is that women are incapable of taking care for themselves without guidance of males.
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>>18197319
the 1 for 2 women statistic is quite loaded. Women are more likely to make cries for help (multiple times, which can be counted again), while men know that no one is going to fucking cry for them.

Women also tend to report attempted suicide and end up in hospitals as an appeal for resources, while men do not except for rare occasions under psychosis (if he was in his right mind his status as a male would be lowered due to having to "man up fag")
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>>18197679
>Those were all male-dominated up until feminism supplanted men in all those areas.

Bullshit, these fields are still dominated by males! The only reason why you blame feminism is because women stood up for their rights and slowly gained rights you men have. You're defending male privilege at this point.
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>>18197830

>Has an STD
Yeah, most people consider them unsavory, however they aren't really as common as you'd believe anymore. How does this pertain to "all Western women?"

>kids out of wedlock
Did you know the only women who actually do this are the "pure" girls who accidentally get knocked up and are too "religious/moral" to have an abortion?

>or has had an abortion.

Good thing Blacks are the primary group that uses these.
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>>18197883
>Women also tend to report attempted suicide
in the same manner they report rapes. i cut myself = attempted suicide for a woman. i shot myself in the head and lived = attempted suicide for a man.
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>>18197879

Daww, I gave anon a soapbox and now he's standing all on his tiptoes to use it.
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>>18197901 (You)
>male privilege
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>>18197990
>in the same manner they report rapes.

Rapes aren't really reported that often.

Not to mention it's fucking rare to find a false rape charge.
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>>18198032
>it's fucking rare to find a false rape charge.
my sides
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>>18197901 (You)

Women did not stand up for anything, they were coddled into their positions because it was profitable for the government and corporations to expand the workforce by essentially double and feminism continues to see that women are coddled into places they largely don't deserve to be in.
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>>18197995
Good argument.
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>>18198058

Do you have a peer-reviewed study that shows a large percentage of rape accusations are fake.
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>>18198062

So what you're saying is that women are intellectually inferior to men, and thus could only get into most jobs because of some perceived feminist conspiracy.
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>>18197971
They can still say no, or pass it off as "rape", can't shame me into believing their anything less than a whore and are marriage material.
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>>18198062
Women were intellectually inferior to men because society wanted women to be less intellectual. Who controlled society? Males. White, wealthy, men.

It's all about sociology. Sociology teaches that most things that we learned were socialized by peers and by authority figures in our lives.
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>>18198300 (You)
Funny, nigger use the same excuse to justify their laziness and naivity.
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>>18198300 (You)
>It's all about sociology. Sociology teaches that most things that we learned were socialized by peers and by authority figures in our lives.

>inb4 someone goes "lol Sociology" because they despise how it goes against everything /pol/ believes in.

>>18198298

Say no... For what?

>Pass it off as Rape

Women rarely do this?
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>>18197879
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>>18198378
No excuse, sociology teaches us that African-Americans are like that is because the culture of poverty. Structural issues cause the culture of poverty due to a lack of opportunity because of racism.

Oh and guess who created sociology: A European!
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>>18198463 (You)

Well that settles it, sociology says so and so it is.
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>>18198463 (You)
>more excuses
Yes, it's the fault of everybody else.
#jucdize4trayboon
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>>18198032
It's also fucking rare to have numbers on annual amounts of rapes alone and studies on false sexual assault accusations instead of just 'false rape accusations'.
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>>18198432

>Women tend to vote more progressive
>This means we need to strip them of their right to vote.

Impeccable logic.

Why not just say "I want to make a semi-authoritarian state and outlaw progressive thought?"
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>>18197301
I would not call being the dominant voice in politics journalism and academia no power. Are you one of those people who claims that because they've never met a shrieking feminist they don't exist?
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>>18198553

So what you're saying is data for it doesn't exist.
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>>18198562
You forgot to put 'progressive' in quotation marks.
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>>18194294
Wrong, being moved to tears in appropriate settings was considered not only manly but a sign of maturity and good breeding. A man unmoved by the death of a comrade, great works of art, or pride in accomplishment.

This guy >>18194367 this the right of it.

Men generally cry based on external stimuli, whereas women cry based on internal stimuli.
Or more succinctly, men cry for others, women cry for themselves.

I'm not sure when the idea of men shouldn't show emotion came about, but I know who I've heard push that idea, women.
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>>18198641
Yes, did I imply otherwise?
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>>18198780

>http://vaw.sagepub.com/content/16/12/1318.full.pdf+html

>http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/mar/13/false-allegations-rape-domestic-violence-rare

>http://www.cps.gov.uk/publications/research/perverting_course_of_justice_march_2013.pdf

>https://www.ncjrs.gov/app/abstractdb/AbstractDBDetails.aspx?id=243182

>journals.cambridge.org/production/action/cjoGetFulltext?fulltextid=430300

Ok I guess you're right.
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>>18192804
It's actually the opposite that's occuring
Single feminist wymen who leech of the men they divorce are telling their kids it's okay to feel and express your emotions.

Yet when the grow older they figure out that's not the case and they are not ready for all the responsibility they are expected to take on without complaint, therefore suicide or transition to gigantic faggotry
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>>18198077
I think he's talking about how every single girl ever SAYS she's been raped. I remember in High School every girl you talked to would have some rape story. I think it's a virginity loss guilt thing. But we're talking about actual legal accusations here which I'm sure there are less.
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>>18194936
I think it's more likely her son will grow up to be a pan-trans-otherqueer that an heros before the age of 30. Then again she will probably make enough money off this feminist propaganda that she will be able to afford the lifetime of therapy and meds that will be needed to keep him alive.
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>>18198878

Yeah and if you took the casual word of anyone in High School, everyone is gay.
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>>18198852

Oh, just as a head's up on what all of those say.

The average amount of "false rapes" compared to actual rapes is around 3-6%, with the FBI reporting 8%.
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>>18198122
>be a quarter native
>think about jumping off a building all the time

It all makes sense now.
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>>18195774
But men have less testosterone than any other time in history.
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Why is there so much SRS faggotry on /pol/?
I'm surprised i couldn't read 'privilege' at least once though.
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>>18197301
>The kind that doesn't actually hold any real power?
HA, try again
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lol feminist retards, rosario dawnson was in 'miss representation', the prequel, talking about how women shouldn't adhere to societie's standards for beauty, then in 2013, in the movie trance shows her tits and shaves her pussay.

retards. lol thanks for the tits though. pic is her
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>>18197971

>Did you know the only women who actually do this are the "pure" girls who accidentally get knocked up and are too "religious/moral" to have an abortion?

Can't be that 'pure' if they're having unprotected sex before marriage
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Sometimes I forget just how mentally ill /pol/ is.
You people are weak.
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>>18199467
Not bad. Life could be so nice if women weren't so gullible and annoying.
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>>18199597
Another faggot with hurt feelings.
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>>18199467
There's your private life and then there's your work life dumbass.
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>>18199639
Why would my feelings be hurt?
Unlike you I never question my masculinity.
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>>18199681
>excuses
Just shows how inconsistent women are.
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>>18199799
Right because no man has ever comported himself differently in his personal life than he has while on the job.

Grow up anon.
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>>18199737
Of course you do, probably all the time. Why would the general sentiment on /pol/ offend you if you wouldn't?
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>>18199681
Oh.

So I can be a pacifist at home, but shoot people at work? Cool, I'll tell the army to get those bastards on the field.
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>>18199910
Degrees of behaviour are different from complete opposites. A priest acting like a orgy-ringleader is not really in good standing for either.
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>>18199910
No faggot, if a man does it he gets called out on it. How does true equality taste you bigoted moron?
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>implying boys need to learn how to deal with emotions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEPoO08IMog
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>>18195730
>People forget that Odin was also a god of poetry. The masculine image has shifted over time to a destructive place.
People forget that Loki fucked a horse. Norse mythology is retarded and perverse.
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>>18199910
the gif is from the movie 'trance' you retard. it's not private life it's all public. herp derp
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>>18198983
>actual rapes
Actual sexual assaults. Rape is a part of sexual assault, not sexual assault as a whole.

>with the FBI reporting 8%
10+ years ago and, if I remember right, for specifically rape.

>Lisak
These are investigated sexual assaults that hinge directly on proven to be false or not, which leads us to one of the major MRA claims that the legal system has a bias towards women, which they've showed in many places but have yet to have any national studies on. Further, you have to remember two things about this study:

>it's about one university (there was another study about one university that lead to a 40% false result).
>the small result of those discovered to be false does not mean the rest were proven true, as many were found inconclusive and dropped as such

>CPS
Again, going on proven with enough evidence.

>Victoria
>Only a small percentage of cases (2.1 percent) were designated by police as false
>and 46.4 percent of the complaints resulted in "no further police action."

>Rumney
Same as the rest, he mainly drills in the "proving false accusation" parts.

But you did prove me otherwise on studies thing. A few I've seen focused purely on rape, not sexual assault as a whole. Good job there.
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>>18199918
Why would your reveling in your own insecurities offend me?

I don't care if you're too weak mentally to realize your individuality. Not everyone is cut out for that kind of intellectual realization and I don't hold that against you.

After all someone has to be willing throw their life away for the causes set by intellectuals right?
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>>18200153
wow.
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>>18190601 (OP)
I approve.
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>>18192775
>inb4 they ask me to back up my claims
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>>18200135
Not only fucked a horse, but transformed into a mare and then got fucked (raped, under some translations) and the colt that resulted from that was given to his brother to ride.

I love Norse mythology.
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>>18200228
All to Jew a guy that built a wall for the Gods from his payment.
>Hey this guy is gonna finish the entire wall on time, we might need to pay him.
>I will distract him.
>I can't distract him, he works too hard. I will distract his horse by turning into a mare and letting it fuck me.
I don't think the guy ever got paid.

Also Thor once crossdressed as Freya IIRC.
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>>18197589
>VAWA
Operates on the Duluth Model, incentivizes false allegations, incentivizes prosecutorial misconduct
>Dear Colleague letter
Institutes the "preponderance of evidence" standard vs. "innocent until proven guilty". Allows accusers to appeal verdicts resulting in double jeopardy. Cites harassment is subjective vs. objective.
>Obamacare.
Lists programs specifically for women 57 times, does not mention male specific programs once


Yup all anecdotal, out of context and fabricated. You are right, radfems have zero power.
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>>18199934
>>18199966

and how does a woman saying that women shouldn't adhere to societies beauty standards conflict with a woman shaving her snatch for a film-shoot as grievously as a pacifist killer and priest/orgy-leader?

It's more akin to a dentist dressing up in leathers and riding a motorcycle while off the clock than the ludicrous examples you gave.

>>18200001
Really?
You give your fellow man shit for getting loaded on the weekend and being sober on the job?

You sound like a real asshole.
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>>18200176
Nigger, you started the projecting.
But keep riding that train and throw around empty words like they have any bearing or even meaning in this conversation to hide your inability to deal with what is human reality.
Here is a place for special snowflakes like you
>>>lgbt
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>>18190601 (OP)
Sounds like feminist bullshit.

You raised my expectations, then dashed them, OP.
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>>18200468
lol butthurt

You mad I dented your sense of masculinity brah?
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>>18200399
>give your fellow man shit for getting loaded on the weekend and being sober on the job
How about you try wot make a coherent argument for once?
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>>18200399
Are... you trying to make this be a discussion about fashion rather than presentations of allege view-points in comparison with actions done outside of it?
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>feminism doesn't acknowledge that men face problems too, and some of those problems are a result of feminism
>That's true. I know!
>MASCULINITY IS KILLING BOYS
I hate you feminism. I hate you so god damn much.
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>>18200518
The only thing you dented is your nailpolish, faggot.
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>>18200600
Nuh nuh, you are just insecure about your masculinity, listen to these smart women, they obviously know better than generations of men.
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>>18200522
>a person's work behavior being at odds with the behavior and personal ideals they express in their personal life is a phenomenon in no way limited to women and is in more or less the default for human behavior
>according to anon this is an incoherent argument

maybe you should work on that reading comprehension brah.

Oh I forgot reading is for fags amirite?
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>>18200603
lol
sorry but you can't cut off my balls that easily bro
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>>18200651
>you are just insecure
>an argument who's rejection just furthers the argument
Whoever started that shit is an evil genius. The creator of modern liberalism trying their best to tie itself to psychology, which is funny seeing as liberals have more mental problems than independents and conservatives.
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>>18200712
Stupid jew, both situations aren't even remotely comparable. Maybe you need an extra dose of your meds to understand that.
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>>18200584
Are... you trying to obfuscate the issue by pretending that "fashion" and "society's beauty standards" aren't the same thing?
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>>18200600
THIS!

Jesus fuck.
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>>18200806
>a person acting different while on the job is not comparable to a person acting different while on the job
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>>18200859
No, I'm just impress at your ability to completely miss the point and use a tunnel vision I hadn't had to encounter since my college years.

Give me a moment, I need to get back into the mindset of dealing with this kind of crap.
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I felt feelings once.

It was awful.
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>>18191339
>implying men are not shit on and exploited by society

it's like you hate yourself or something
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>>18200981
You're right I must have missed the point because I honestly do not see how an actress shaving her pussy and doing doing a nude scene conflicts with a statement of "women should not adhere to society's beauty standards".

Talk me through your leaps of logic.
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>>18200925
No asshole, the reasons why they act different are important. Of course that's something you neglect because it bursts your little argument like a bubble.
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>>18198077
http://www.annalsofpsychotherapy.com/pdf/Winter2008.pdf#page=45
https://www.ncjrs.gov/App/Publications/abstract.aspx?ID=67981
http://falserapearchives.blogspot.ca/2009/06/archives-of-sexual-behavior-feb-1994.html

Would you like to learn more?
http://www.cotwa.info/
http://www.innocenceproject.org/
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>>18192835
>men shouldn't band together as a group or recognize that they have problems specific only to men
>only weak pussy women have feelings
>spend your life catering to the needs of women, goy
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>blaming feminism for this
>this is an extension of Farrell's discussion on warrior training, competition, and disposability
>this is academic MRA thought
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>>18201094
>the reasons they act different are important

> acting a certain way to get a pay check is different from acting a certain way to get a pay check
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people really take this gender shit seriously. god damn.

call it 'privilege', but I find it hard to care about any of this shit. feminism, trannies, MRAs

like bunch of god damned animals slinging shit at each other
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>>18194638
>controlling your emotions at crucial times means never expressing them/being ashamed of them/
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>>18195920
>2013
>not being an Overman!
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>>18201148
Even mothers ignore their sons emotions and troubles and shes the one who loves him mos supposedly.
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>>18201208
Yes, keep ignoring that little crucial part about their motivation for their behavior.
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>>18201226
I prefer to think of it as being more human than human
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>>18201081
>>18201081
You don't see a conflict between self-sexualization by means of normal standards of exposure to be a bit in conflict with the notion women should stop doing exactly that?
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>>18201225
Go look up what controlling means.
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>>18201300
clue me in because I was operating under the impression Rosario Dawson did a nude scene for the paycheck but apparently there's an ulterior motive that I'm missing.
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>>18200391
>"preponderance of evidence" standard
What is this?
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>>18198432
>Sweden
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>>18201322
no.
No more so than I see a conflict between a man who considers himself free and aspires to ideals of liberty and self-expression in his personal life while working a degrading 9 to 5.
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>>18201223
Amen.

I have started to realize that none of the shit these groups bitch about is going to affect me.

Only lower class men have high divorce rates, suicide rates, and unemployment rates. Fuck 'em.
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>>18201354
She does it, although she strongly believes that women should not bow down to social expectations and 'sell' themselves.
But where does drinking on the weekend suggest that staying sober under the week is somehow contradicting?
Where is the ideological motivation?
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>>18198463 (You)
>Oh and guess who created sociology: A European!

Name something that wasn't created by a European.
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>>18201460
How does working from 9 to 5 mean I am not free, have liberty, and have self-expression? Because I work from 9 to 5 and I don't think you will be able to present me something solid how I'm less free than the next person.

Assuming they aren't welfare queens, that is.
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>>18199305
>citation needed
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>>18201534
Guns, ships, literature, most of modern mathematics, and I could go on.
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>>18201460
Holy shit, another failed argument. The ride never ends, kid.
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>>18201583
College is this, but the teachers join in, too.
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>>18201570
>Guns,

Modern guns are European/American/Mexican.

>ships,

Ships are prehistoric. Hawaii was settled by "ships."

>literature,

Dubious. The prose novel and play come from Europe.

> most of modern mathematics,

This one is the most incorrect. Newton and Leibniz invented Calculus.

>and I could go on.

Please don't.
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>>18193495
/thread
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>>18201669
Newton and Leibnitz are Europeans though, so is Emmy Noerther, Claude Shannon, Robert Carmichael, Sophie Germain, and Carl Gauss.
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>>18201518
>how does submission to forced sobriety conflict with personal preference for a lifestyle of reckless abandon

Your problem is that you think that since Rosario Dawson is a celebrity that she is not subject to societal pressures that obligate her to balance personal ideological beliefs vs. her adherence to behavioral standards that maintain her market value.

She's makes her money by being actress not a political activist.
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>>18201669
-- What does that even mean? Is the air-plane now Brazilian because they make more of them?

-- And thus not made by a European

-- Not dubious at all, we have extremely old records on chinese bones with literature. And the allege 'original' novel that is Don Quixote did indeed develop separately from the Tales of Genji. Hundreds of years later.

-- Calculus is but a small fragment of the massive world that is mathematics, most of which was developed before Europeans by Indian mathematicians, and well as Chinese ones. Important as it is, calculus is not enough to declare math a european creation.

-- But true, I won't do it, because you seemingly will just insist you are not wrong in these regards.
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>>18201549
You do have liberty and free-self expression just not on the job. You sacrifice your ideological desire for these things in order to get a paycheck.

There's nothing wrong with that for the record.
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>>18201583
feel free to point out the failure rather than just shit-posting
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>>18201892
I'm fucking self-employed. See, this is the kind of bullshit that makes your arguments be weak: they are all based upon assumptions that fall on their faces.
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>>18201934
>hurr gotcha

So if you don't actually work a degrading 9 to 5 as my hypothetical individual does then why exactly were you comparing yourself to this individual?

I mean seriously how fucking retarded are you that you start mouthing off about "hurr your car is stoopid it doesn't have wheels" when it's actually a fucking boat?
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>>18202174
No, I work 9 to 5, but there is nothing degrading about it except your insistence that it is. If you came to my office, I would do exactly what every other fucking worker would do in that instant: I would do my job. Then I will leave and do whatever I want.

Do identify the degrading part in all of this, but more importantly, where I lost my freedom. Go. Tell me what is degrading about working from 9 to 5. That was your argument (I can even quote you), and you are doing nothing to defend it.

I work from 9 to 5. What is degrading about that?
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>>18201371
If there is a 50.01% chance that the accusation is true, then you are guilty. It's the lowest legal standard of proof.

I made a mistake in my post, I meant 'Preponderance of Evidence' vs. 'Beyond a Reasonable Doubt'.
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>>18202326
>I don't consider my job degrading or restricting therefore no one does!

Keep on trying to shove your size 12 foot into that size 4 ballerina slipper while complaining it doesn't fit
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>>18202449
And you keep trying to bring a generalization which is only there by mental insistence for the most part.

Your argument has no teeth because it has no statistic basis to itself and your allege argument falls apart because of it.

If anyone is insisting on giving everyone the same size shoe, it's you.
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>men are killing themselves
>it mustn't be because we treat them like trash
>it must be because of gender roles
>I bet the patriarchy did this
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>>18190601 (OP)
>OP
Hey look, a "muh feelings" picture that doesn't make me vomit. Maybe this will be good!
>link
Fucking fuck shit fuck you OP you're a faggot die in a fire.
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>>18202548
except my argument was never based on every person having the same shoe dumbass.

I said a person who sacrifices their free-expression by working a "degrading 9 to 5" that restricts their self-expression and autonomy despite them deeply valuing those concepts in their personal life is not a hypocrite, just someone making the expected personal sacrifices to get by in life.

YOU on the other hand were the jackass who decide to leap in and claim this hypothetical person doesn't exist and is invalid because "you're self employed and work a 9 to 5 and you don't consider it degrading or restrictive" as if your personal experience somehow negates a hypothetical that does not require universal applicability.

Seriously though what the fuck is your business, I need to know so I don't inadvertently wind up hiring a goddamn moron in the future.
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>>18202995
>you
>hiring
Please do tell me what you are going to be working on so I stay away from your 'company'

And no, you are still incorrect because you insist upon a fiction: you still have not shown how or why a person sacrifice self-expression or autonomy by working a "degrading 9 to 5" (which you still haven't defined in a non-circular manner).

Again, argue your points rather than flailing your arms, or you are just one of the multitude of people who can't into logic.


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