Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)15:15 No.14058160

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)15:15 No.14058160

Replies: >>14058246

So become bees and be susceptible to CCD? No thanx. Individualism is our greatest strength.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)15:16 No.14058203

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)15:16 No.14058203

Replies: >>14058246

>>14058103 (OP)
>Unite all of humanity under one government.
Then all it takes is one government to go corrupt for the world to be completely fucked.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)15:17 No.14058224

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)15:17 No.14058224

Replies: >>14058395

A world state would be rife with corruption. Giving people all that power over nation states (or would you get rid of those)

Scum

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)15:17 No.14058246

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)15:17 No.14058246

>>14058103 (OP)
>>14058160
>>14058203
Define goverment.
Only idiots jump onto sound bites.
Don't be that guy.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)15:21 No.14058395

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)15:21 No.14058395

Replies: >>14058694

>>14058224
No independent states, just one species. Requirements for a position in the government would be brutal as fuck. Plus if you do do something corrupt you get executed for crimes against humanity.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)15:31 No.14058694

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)15:31 No.14058694

Replies: >>14058759 >>14058837

>>14058395
>you get executed
No.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)15:33 No.14058759

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)15:33 No.14058759

Replies: >>14058983

>>14058694

Why not? Let me guess, "muh feelings and morality".

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)15:35 No.14058837

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)15:35 No.14058837

Replies: >>14059093

>>14058694
If you do anything to thwart the advancement of the species you deserve death.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)15:38 No.14058926

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)15:38 No.14058926

>Perfect world thread.
>No socialism (It never worked.)
>Perfect
>(It never worked.)

This is just silly. You're misrepresenting this idea. Are you trying to have a truly "perfect world" or are you just making shit up? This is as perfect as it gets, realistically. It comes down to idealism vs realism and you can't quite decide which one you're talking about.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)15:39 No.14058983

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)15:39 No.14058983

Replies: >>14059072

>>14058759
Because under fear people have poor results.
You just think killing is an easy way to get rid of problems, but in reality it creates even more.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)15:41 No.14059013

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)15:41 No.14059013

Replies: >>14059162

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>>14058103 (OP)
>Unite all of humanity under one government
fucked up in the first idea.
great job!

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)15:41 No.14059029

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)15:41 No.14059029

Also forgot to mention eugenics, and other things
>Have IQ tests, genetic tests required for a breeding license.
>Allow the populace to bear arms as long as they promise to use them righteously and strike down tyrants who wish to hinder manifest destiny.
>Also require mental checks and IQ tests to own a firearm.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)15:42 No.14059072

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)15:42 No.14059072

Replies: >>14059388

>>14058983
Not really. Look at history. The only way to deal with tyrants is bullets.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)15:43 No.14059093

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)15:43 No.14059093

>>14058837
>you deserve death
no, you're not the one to decide that

what if your brain capacity is a thread to mankind? chances are you really shouldn't reproduce
should you be kill too?
is this how civilized people solve problems?

thank god we DON'T live in a real democracy, i've heard too many people speaking for death penalties already

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)15:44 No.14059109

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)15:44 No.14059109

Replies: >>14059196

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>no socialism

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)15:45 No.14059162

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)15:45 No.14059162

Replies: >>14059249 >>14059383

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>>14059013
>Thinks we will survive if divided.
>Thinks we won't blast ourselves into oblivion.
>Thinks nationalism is good.
>Thinks independent nations are good.
We won't advance if divided. Please remove your genitals for the good of the species.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)15:46 No.14059196

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)15:46 No.14059196

Replies: >>14059320 >>14059370 >>14059631

>>14059109
I never worked. So no. Controlled capitalism is the best.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)15:48 No.14059249

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)15:48 No.14059249

Replies: >>14059295

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>>14059162
whoa.
hold on there little lady.
i never said any of those things.
here's a pic to give you the idea of what i meant.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)15:49 No.14059295

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)15:49 No.14059295

Replies: >>14059352 >>14059366 >>14059452 >>14062696

>>14059249
It will be a democratic society.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)15:50 No.14059320

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)15:50 No.14059320

>>14059196
Granted it needs tweaking but its still better in the long run.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)15:51 No.14059352

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)15:51 No.14059352

>>14059295
Then its doomed to fail.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)15:51 No.14059366

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)15:51 No.14059366

>>14059295
so the smart few are ruled by the general consensus of the retarded masses.
terrible.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)15:52 No.14059370

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)15:52 No.14059370

Replies: >>14059443 >>14059447

>>14059196
>something bad happens under a socialist economic system

OH LORD WORST SYSTEM EVER, THIS IS THE FAULT OF SOCIALISM AND LITERALLY NOTHING ELSE, TEAR IT ALL DOWN, WE CAN NEVER TRY SOCIALISM EVER EVER AGAIN

>something bad happens under a capitalist economic system

Well, accidents happen you know. We can't blame this entirely on capitalism, there are more factors to consider, the situation is more complex than that. We certainly can't abandon capitalism entirely I mean it's the best system we've got (according to my american public school teacher). Let's just try to fix the problem as best we can to make sure this bad thing doesn't happen again.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)15:52 No.14059383

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)15:52 No.14059383

Replies: >>14059479

>>14059162
The only choices aren't militarized nation states and one world government you know...

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)15:52 No.14059388

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)15:52 No.14059388

Replies: >>14059459

>>14059072
Bullets make martyrs. It also seems hypocritical to execute for crimes against humanity.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)15:53 No.14059407

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)15:53 No.14059407

Replies: >>14059502

OP is 12.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)15:54 No.14059443

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)15:54 No.14059443

Replies: >>14059473 >>14059483 >>14059525

>>14059370
But million of people have died under socialism. Death tools have never been that high under capitalism.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)15:54 No.14059447

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)15:54 No.14059447

>>14059370
I think the skepticism of socialism and communism comes from the fact that every single time it was tried it ended up in brutal purges and totalitarian dictatorship.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)15:54 No.14059452

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)15:54 No.14059452

Replies: >>14059567

>>14059295
>we vote today to legally exterminate group X.
>group X is 1.5% of the planet and everyone hates them
>yay, democracy

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)15:54 No.14059454

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)15:54 No.14059454

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>perfect world thread

have a genie

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)15:54 No.14059459

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)15:54 No.14059459

Replies: >>14059507 >>14059538

>>14059388
Exile is a much better punishment

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)15:55 No.14059473

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)15:55 No.14059473

>>14059443
military industrial complex

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)15:55 No.14059479

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)15:55 No.14059479

Replies: >>14059562 >>14059621

>>14059383
If humanity is to achieve manifest destiny then we need to be united as a whole.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)15:55 No.14059483

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)15:55 No.14059483

>>14059443

>get-a-load-of-this-guy-cam.jpg

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)15:56 No.14059502

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)15:56 No.14059502

>>14059407
Anon is a nationalist republican.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)15:56 No.14059507

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)15:56 No.14059507

Replies: >>14063017

>>14059459
hahahahahahahahahaha!
just make all the offenders live with jews.
oh wait.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)15:57 No.14059525

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)15:57 No.14059525

Replies: >>14059577 >>14059615

>>14059443
Millions die of starvation every year under capitalism.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)15:57 No.14059538

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)15:57 No.14059538

>>14059459
>Put them all in one place so they can form their own state instead of disposing of them.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)15:58 No.14059562

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)15:58 No.14059562

Replies: >>14059601 >>14059617

>>14059479
incorrect.
for us to achieve destiny we all must shed all forms of government and live under the idea of "to each his own."
the weak will perish and humanity will become either perfect or extinct.
uniting everybody only assures that we're all catering to the weakest link.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)15:58 No.14059567

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)15:58 No.14059567

Replies: >>14060586

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>>14059452
>Group x is holding back the species
>Let them hold back the species

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)15:59 No.14059577

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)15:59 No.14059577

Replies: >>14059610

>>14059525
because they're lazy.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:00 No.14059601

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:00 No.14059601

Replies: >>14059635 >>14059653

>>14059562
>Anarchy
I lel'd, it'll never work in a million years. You ever see an unattended kindergarten class with no teacher in sight? That's anarchy in a nutshell.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:00 No.14059604

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:00 No.14059604

Replies: >>14059681

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>It is a crime against humanity

yea it sure was a damn shame when the church taught all those people to read and write, established hospitals, fed the poor, and united a continent

oh i forgot you're from rebbit so you never acknowledge any of the good things its done cause they're all >anti-science bigot homophobes who are stupid and won't do anything i say and see the world differently than i do

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:00 No.14059606

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:00 No.14059606

Replies: >>14059802

>>14058103 (OP)
>Unite all of humanity under one government.
>No socialism (It never worked.) but not extreme capitalism.
>Use force if required to take down religious organizations
>Emphasize that the community is more important than the individual.

Communism

Perfectly retarded post

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:00 No.14059610

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:00 No.14059610

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>>14059577
"Stop starving yourself to death! Stop starving yourself to death! Stop starving yourself to death!"

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:00 No.14059615

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:00 No.14059615

Replies: >>14059799

>>14059525
Show me statistics.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:01 No.14059617

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:01 No.14059617

Replies: >>14059651

>>14059562
Define 'weak'

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:01 No.14059621

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:01 No.14059621

Replies: >>14059731

>>14059479
No, I don't think we need all of humanity under one bureaucracy to get off this planet.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:01 No.14059631

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:01 No.14059631

>>14059196
>it never worked
>implying capitalism "works"

You poor, poor boy..

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:01 No.14059635

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:01 No.14059635

Replies: >>14059749

>>14059601
anarchy is a form of economics, not government.
economics 101.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:02 No.14059651

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:02 No.14059651

Replies: >>14059698

>>14059617
nature defines weak.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:02 No.14059653

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:02 No.14059653

>>14059601
So you are as smart as a six year old?

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:02 No.14059665

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:02 No.14059665

>a heterogeneous world is not better

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:03 No.14059681

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:03 No.14059681

Replies: >>14059871

>>14059604
>It sure was good when they wanted evolution banned from schools.
>It sure was nice when they protested gay rights.
>It sure is a good thing they are against live saving stem cell research.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:04 No.14059698

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:04 No.14059698

Replies: >>14059803

>>14059651
I really don't follow, are you proposing we have some kind of mass survival game or something?

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:05 No.14059731

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:05 No.14059731

>>14059621
Did I say bureaucracy?

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:05 No.14059749

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:05 No.14059749

Replies: >>14059780

>>14059635
It's a lack of government.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:05 No.14059757

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:05 No.14059757

>>14058103 (OP)
>>14058103 (OP)
>>14058103 (OP)
>one world
>monolithic
>use force

NO! NO! NO! NO!

1. How can you believe your interpretation of the good life is the one, true and absolute interpretation
2. How can you be such a cultural bigot to not allow people to pursue the good life in a way that speaks to their own experiences and exchanges
3.WHAT GIVES YOU THE RIGHT TO PLAY GOD!

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:06 No.14059780

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:06 No.14059780

>>14059749
incorrect.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:07 No.14059799

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:07 No.14059799

Replies: >>14059872

>>14059615
Why bother? You're too lazy to look them up on your own. And you'll denounce any statistics that don't fit your preconceived ideas as being exaggerated, biased, based on false data, obtained by questionable methods. You want to believe it's not true that millions of people die of hunger and easily preventable/treatable diseases every year under capitalism, so you'll disregard any information to the contrary.

If you're interested in being intellectually honest, you'll make use of the vast library of easily searchable info at your fingertips.

>inb4 "lol u don't really have any statistics!"

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:07 No.14059802

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:07 No.14059802

>>14059606
>No stealing of wealth
So it isn't socialist. Just because I think the species is more important than one person doesn't mean I'm communist. People would be allowed to climb the ladder of wealth.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:07 No.14059803

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:07 No.14059803

Replies: >>14059896

>>14059698
that is what wwiii will be.
the world of man have never seen a war.
for the first real war it ever sees, will be it's last.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:08 No.14059820

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:08 No.14059820

>>14058103 (OP)
you sounds just like rothschild.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:08 No.14059840

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:08 No.14059840

Unless the government is monarchy with immortal man on top I'd take our chances with nations.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:09 No.14059871

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:09 No.14059871

Replies: >>14059940 >>14059945

>>14059681

>its not perfect so we should get rid of it

whoops by that logic government is out the window too. Please keep proving how much of an idiot you are

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:09 No.14059872

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:09 No.14059872

Replies: >>14059997 >>14060005

>>14059799
only around 200 people die in America because of starvation. That's a lot better than China or North Korea.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:10 No.14059896

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:10 No.14059896

Replies: >>14059964

>>14059803
Thats true, although the way weapons are becoming more indiscriminate its probable that many would be killed simply chance. Not too say however that the more astute will know which places are more safer than others.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:11 No.14059929

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:11 No.14059929

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>>14058103 (OP)
RBE

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:11 No.14059940

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:11 No.14059940

Replies: >>14059987 >>14060019 >>14060118

>>14059871
That's what Democracy is for. So you can get rid of people you don't like. Religion holds us back and thwarts scientific advancement. Halting scientific advancement is one of the worst crimes against humanity.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:12 No.14059945

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:12 No.14059945

>>14059871
>by that logic government is out the window too
are you saying it shouldn't be?
that would be illogical.

it's best to live like this:
if it's not permanent, make it permanent.
if it cannot be made permanent, it is a waste of time.
if it can be made permanent, but makes you temporary, destroy the thing to be made permanent.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:12 No.14059964

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:12 No.14059964

Replies: >>14060316

>>14059896
exactly.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:13 No.14059975

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:13 No.14059975

Replies: >>14060098

>>14058103 (OP)
> 2013
> not realizing despotism is the only viable government
The majority of people are stupid, everyone agreea on that. When you allow a bunch of stupid peopke the ability to control a country it fails, see America.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:13 No.14059987

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:13 No.14059987

>>14059940
>Democracy
Terrible Idea
0/10

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:13 No.14059997

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:13 No.14059997

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>>14059872

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:13 No.14060005

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:13 No.14060005

Replies: >>14060079

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>>14059872
>America is the only capitalist nation on Earth
>China is socialist

I agree North Korea is fucked, but it has problems way beyond its economic structure.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:14 No.14060019

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:14 No.14060019

>>14059940
>science
>jewcraft

pick both.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:14 No.14060029

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:14 No.14060029

>>14058103 (OP)
You're a fucking idiot and should be assassinated the second you get anywhere close to political power.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:14 No.14060038

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:14 No.14060038

That sounds very communistic. How would that be good at all?

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:15 No.14060050

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:15 No.14060050

Replies: >>14060068

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>posting in a summer thread

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:15 No.14060068

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:15 No.14060068

>>14060050
summer doesn't start for the chilluns until the second week of june.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:16 No.14060079

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:16 No.14060079

Replies: >>14060211

>>14060005
>America
>a nation

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:16 No.14060098

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:16 No.14060098

>>14059975
That's why you would have to take an IQ test in order to vote.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:17 No.14060118

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:17 No.14060118

Replies: >>14060156 >>14060215 >>14060268

>>14059940

> Religion holds us back and thwarts scientific advancement
>this is what 12 year old rebbitors actually believe

I'm a scientist (biologist and biochemist) and I know several religious scientists that are doing great work

hell, the chief scientist of the CDC is a Catholic

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:18 No.14060156

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:18 No.14060156

>>14060118
Edgy atheists like the OP don't let facts get in the way of their Christian hatred.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:19 No.14060211

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:19 No.14060211

>>14060079
You know we were both referring to the U.S. you fucking pedant

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:19 No.14060215

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:19 No.14060215

Replies: >>14060288 >>14060290 >>14060293 >>14060319 >>14060333 >>14060400 >>14060428

>>14060118
The top scientists are atheist. Also religion can be used to manipulate the people.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:20 No.14060241

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:20 No.14060241

Replies: >>14060286

>>14058103 (OP)
Who decides what the goals of your perfect world going forward after it is established ?

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:21 No.14060268

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:21 No.14060268

Replies: >>14060507

>>14060118
And since this is 4chan I won't believe any career claims unless you confirm those 300 kills.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:21 No.14060284

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:21 No.14060284

Replies: >>14060537

>the closest we'll ever get to uniting the world under one government collapsed 100 years ago
we were 25% of the way there
why did WW2 have to happen
why

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:21 No.14060286

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:21 No.14060286

Replies: >>14060362

>>14060241
The people.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:21 No.14060288

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:21 No.14060288

Replies: >>14060423

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>>14060215
Oh, hi there.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:21 No.14060290

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:21 No.14060290

>>14060215
>The top scientists are atheist
oh really?
define "top scientist".

your personal faves don't count, nigger.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:21 No.14060293

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:21 No.14060293

Replies: >>14060500

>>14060215
>The top scientists are atheist.
So that's all the matters? The "top" scientists?
How exactly does one become a "top" scientist?
Is there a "Top Scientist Organization"?

>Also religion can be used to manipulate the people.
Everything can be used to manipulate the people. Religion. Science. Television. Radio. Books People....
Better outlaw everything then.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:22 No.14060316

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:22 No.14060316

Replies: >>14060415

>>14059964
But how many people have to die to decide who is weak and who is not. It would be much better to simply have the weak serve and if they rebel then and only then should they be slaughtered for wanting to rebel instead of trying to better themselves. For example, In the UK we have too many people who are nothing but scum, they detest learning and the only meaningful contribution they make to society is if their in some menial job (providing they have one). If he thinks he is deserving of life even though he has chosen to do nothing with it then he should be put down if he dares cause trouble for honest hard working folk.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:22 No.14060319

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:22 No.14060319

>>14060215
>Also religion can be used to manipulate the people.
How is this a bad thing? Uniting the planet under one government would only work with a great deal of manipulation.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:23 No.14060333

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:23 No.14060333

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>>14060215
Got another for you as well.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:23 No.14060362

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:23 No.14060362

>>14060286
OK the people just decided your ideas are stupid, you are sentenced to death for the crime of attempting to corrupt the good citizens or our great society.

checkmate

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:24 No.14060400

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:24 No.14060400

Replies: >>14060505

>>14060215

>The top scientists are atheist
>I define "top" as being people who affirm the point I'm trying to make

there are many well renowned scientists who range from atheist to agnostic to devoutly religious

>Also religion can be used to manipulate the people

so can government. Should we do away with all of that?

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:24 No.14060415

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:24 No.14060415

Replies: >>14060593

>>14060316
until it balances. that's how many.
if you need weaker ones to serve you, you're just as weak as they are.
for without them, you die.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:25 No.14060423

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:25 No.14060423

Replies: >>14060452 >>14060474 >>14060546 >>14060650

>>14060288
That's because none of there work contradicted their religion. Now once you get into things like physics, biology then you have stuff that will conflict with religion.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:25 No.14060428

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:25 No.14060428

Replies: >>14060493

>>14060215
>Also religion can be used to manipulate the people.
Yeah cause telling everyone "Be nice to everyone" is so evil.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:26 No.14060452

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:26 No.14060452

>>14060423
The person who came up with the Big Bang Theory was a Christian.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:26 No.14060474

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:26 No.14060474

>>14060423
>Now once you get into things like physics, biology then you have stuff that will conflict with religion.
So where does "Religion" conflict with "physics" and "biology"?

And why must "physics" and "biology" never, ever be questioned or disagreed with?

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:27 No.14060493

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:27 No.14060493

Replies: >>14060548

>>14060428
Yeah the crusades was a giant let's be friends party between the Christians and Muslims

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:27 No.14060500

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:27 No.14060500

>>14060293
(Different Guy) I think the problem is that science isn't absolute, and should never be taken as such. But religions can be pretty dogmatic at times, of course that does depend on how closely you follow the sacred texts. People should let God rule there lives, but we shouldn't dismiss the idea of a creator altogether.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:27 No.14060505

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:27 No.14060505

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>>14060400
>so can government. Should we do away with all of that?
Yes. Atheists are just interested in rebelling against easy targets.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:27 No.14060507

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:27 No.14060507

>>14060268

my claim that I'm a scientist wasn't crucial to the point i was making. That point being that there are many religious scientists. Not believing my claim doesn't refute my argument

sage
sage 05/11/13(Sat)16:27 No.14060508

sage sage 05/11/13(Sat)16:27 No.14060508

Replies: >>14060791

>>14058103 (OP)
>Unite all of humanity under one government.

nope

sage sage sage

fuck off nwoidf

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:28 No.14060510

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:28 No.14060510

Replies: >>14060791

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>>14058103 (OP)
>Unite all of humanity under one government

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:28 No.14060537

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:28 No.14060537

Replies: >>14060612

>>14060284
because the redshields wanted more money and power

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:28 No.14060546

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:28 No.14060546

Replies: >>14060651

>>14060423
Christianity has been so successful and has so many denominations because you can very easily justify most things by just looking in the Bible. That's how the Popes managed to justify the deaths of Muslims and Jews in the Crusades and the Inquisition, but also how Christian individuals can come up with a theory and find a line in the Bible that they think justifies it.

Also, the Church actively pushed scientific advancement in what people think of as the Dark Ages - which didn't actually occur - and was the main reason science kept alive back then.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:29 No.14060548

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:29 No.14060548

>>14060493
>Yeah the crusades was a giant let's be friends party between the Christians and Muslims
Where in the Bible are the actions of the crusades condoned, supported or endorsed?

Also, when did the Crusades happen?

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:29 No.14060569

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:29 No.14060569

there are no jus lellelelelelelelllelelelelel

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:30 No.14060586

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:30 No.14060586

Replies: >>14061527 >>14063212

>>14059567
more like
>group x is the smartest 1.4% of the population
>retarded masses hate them for this
>hurr durr nerds
>today we vote to legally exterminate group x...

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:30 No.14060593

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:30 No.14060593

>>14060415
We don't need the weaker ones, but id rather give them a chance to prove that they can become better people rather than simply casting them aside.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:30 No.14060612

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:30 No.14060612

>>14060537
I think it was because of WW1 and the damage to the economy and stability of the British Empire that led to its decline and eventual collapse, not the Rothschild family. I mean, even though they are sneaky Jews, they knew how to handle money.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:31 No.14060631

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:31 No.14060631

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>>14058103 (OP)
>Unite all of humanity under one government.
Stopped reading there.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:31 No.14060650

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:31 No.14060650

>>14060423
Isaac Newton, the father of physics, was a fanatic anglican.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:31 No.14060651

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:31 No.14060651

Replies: >>14060875

>>14060546
No, the New Testament is crystal clear in its message of peace, poverty and humility. People can cherrypick any source to justify pre-existing beliefs, but that doesn't mean that's what the source was saying.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:32 No.14060663

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:32 No.14060663

Replies: >>14063003

>>14058103 (OP)
OP, you are a fucking moron.

There is no such thing as a "perfect" government - different forms of governance all have their appropriate setting, people aren't static stagnant things - they are organic and our society is made of people - it too is organic.

The perfect would (continually progressing at the fastest pace possible and expanding outward to the stars) can only consist of many small forms of government - the diversity inherent in many different forms of government competing with oneanother is what drives us - setting up a single system just results in a lack of outward competition and the rise of inward competition leading to a two-class system in which the people running things are going to be a far smaller percentage of the population (and a different subset of it) than those capable of progressing things - complacency in the upper class would reach such a crippling level as to strangle the entire species.

You can't feed the masses science and make them interested in it, people need to be capable of failing or achieving - when you make intelligence "cool" you just get a bunch of hipsters fucks spouting nonsense to boost their ego and fit in (see Leddit).

You CANNOT regulate morality or the right choices away, the individuals engaging in poor choices need to be capable of making them and failing because of them or the set of poor choices will simply shift while remaining just as poor.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:36 No.14060791

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:36 No.14060791

Replies: >>14060860 >>14060922 >>14060958 >>14060966

>>14060508
>>14060510
>>14060631
Nationalist mericunts detected.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:38 No.14060860

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:38 No.14060860

>>14060791
>Globalist, atheist communist detected

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:38 No.14060875

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:38 No.14060875

Replies: >>14060975 >>14060994

>>14060651
If I was a Christian, desperately looking for justification in an act of violence I just committed, and found the line; ''Jesus made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple area, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables'' - then I would have found justification in violence.

On the other hand, if I had just come up with a theory that I thought was contradictory to the Bible, and found a line that subjectively backed up my theory, I would've found justification in my theory from the Bible as well.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:40 No.14060922

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:40 No.14060922

Replies: >>14060970 >>14060983

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>>14060791
doesn't a nationalist like government

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:41 No.14060958

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:41 No.14060958

>>14060791

>2edgy4me

ITT: OP showcases a shitty idea and gets ass mad when he's told how terrible it is.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:41 No.14060966

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:41 No.14060966

>>14060791
I'm for free and autonomous people.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:42 No.14060970

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:42 No.14060970

Replies: >>14061108 >>14061124

>>14060922 They like the idea of independent nations, which will result in the death of the species.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:42 No.14060975

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:42 No.14060975

Replies: >>14061049 >>14061062

>>14060875
Yeah, but that's just twisting the Bible to say what you want. Jesus was clear against the use of violence, as were the apostles in action and word. Find me where it says he hit money changers. Cords are used on animals, which Jesus drove out as well.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:42 No.14060983

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:42 No.14060983

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>>14060922

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:42 No.14060994

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:42 No.14060994

Replies: >>14065938

>>14060875
>If I was a Christian, desperately looking for justification in an act of violence I just committed, and found the line; ''Jesus made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple area, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables'' - then I would have found justification in violence.
Sorry, only atheists take individual quotes from the bible out of context like that.

Knight solar in training
05/11/13(Sat)16:43 No.14061010

Knight solar in training 05/11/13(Sat)16:43 No.14061010

Replies: >>14061589

Yo guys this is what I'm gonna do after I seize control over the world that will search a new way to function following its collapse. Bear with me. The rules every control organisation MUST adhere to are:
a) Universal love and positive oppotunities for everyone,
b) Respect of free will for every individual,
c) Measures to protect the free will of others in accordance with rule a, eg. breivik strikes again, he managed to kill a few people, we violate his free will by disabling or preferably not killing him, but proceed to rehabilitate him and the victims/families as much as we can. This will look better than you think, i'll explain.)
With the internets and the technology of today in mind, a central government will be established asap to address the global issues, and local governments will be also formed anew to serve the new system better as the restructuring takes place. Changes will be gradual so as not to disturb the pace of the world, but some things will go down the drain tomorrow.

1. Most of the worldly military is disbanded and the remnants are fused with the police, creating a better equipped, better trained response force for emergency situations. The resources and production capabilities of all legal militaries from the world are IMMENSE seeing as the remnants of NATO + Russia + China + everything else's best military divisions and intelligence will be more than enough to deal with and mafia or paramilitaries in say, africa or middle east (>implying they will still function after they see the new truly free world).

2. Wall street ponzi schemes and companies' quarterly reports are laughed at as all the factories and assets that were controlled privately now go into our hands. Rule a applies because every CEO and goyim can spare 2-3 most visited villas and all his cars, as well as not needing to worry about his company anymore. Everyone is loved and cared for, even those that don't deserve it in your opinion.
PART 2 SOON

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:44 No.14061049

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:44 No.14061049

Replies: >>14061217

>>14060975
"And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head. And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the Lord. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them"

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:44 No.14061062

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:44 No.14061062

Replies: >>14061243

>>14060975
That's my point. People have historically looked to the Bible, and other Holy Books, to find justification for their actions. Yes, people generally do only see what they want themselves to see, but that's why Christianity has been so successful and also why Christianity has done so much good and also a lot of bad.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:45 No.14061101

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:45 No.14061101

Replies: >>14061140

>No socialism (It never worked.)

>mfw Swedish
>mfw this is what Americans actually believe

Wow you guys are brainwashed. Come home white man.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:46 No.14061108

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:46 No.14061108

Replies: >>14061154 >>14061219

>>14060970
A global community would result in the death of a species. There's a reason why all vastly multicultural societies have collapsed - and will collapse - throughout history.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:46 No.14061110

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:46 No.14061110

>Unite all of humanity under one government.
>Through war or peace.
>Create a monolithic society that works for the advancement of the human race.
>Emphasize that the community is more important than the individual.

Sooo... establish a religion?

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:46 No.14061124

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:46 No.14061124

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>>14060970
>which will result in the death of the species

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:47 No.14061140

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:47 No.14061140

>>14061101
>Sweden
>working
It's a frozen hellhole. A disgusting mire of rapist monkey-people and extortionately high taxes.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:47 No.14061154

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:47 No.14061154

Replies: >>14061182 >>14061194 >>14061680 >>14063126

>>14061108
America is still going strong while homogenous nations are now small and weak.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:48 No.14061182

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:48 No.14061182

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>>14061154
>America
>Strong
lel this guy

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:48 No.14061194

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:48 No.14061194

>>14061154
america is relying on the destruction of the dollar to prop up corporate conglomerates in order to make stockholders happy; it's an incredibly reliant form of trickle down at best

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:49 No.14061217

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:49 No.14061217

Replies: >>14061253

>>14061049
What does Elisha have to do with Christianity? Why didn't you mention that that was from 2 Kings?

>27 “But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, 28 bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. 29 If someone slaps you on one cheek, turn to them the other also. If someone takes your coat, do not withhold your shirt from them. 30 Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back. 31 Do to others as you would have them do to you.

>32 “If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners love those who love them. 33 And if you do good to those who are good to you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners do that. 34 And if you lend to those from whom you expect repayment, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners, expecting to be repaid in full. 35 But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be children of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked. 36 Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful.
Luke 6:27-36

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:49 No.14061219

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:49 No.14061219

Replies: >>14061680

>>14061108
Oh and did you not read the monolithic culture part? And no race =/= culture. A uni racial society lacks hybrid vigor and will die out from inbreeding.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:50 No.14061243

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:50 No.14061243

Replies: >>14061281 >>14061535

>>14061062
Hitler used the theory of evolution to justify barbarism. I guess that makes Darwin wrong?

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:50 No.14061253

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:50 No.14061253

Replies: >>14061302 >>14061469

>>14061217
That's another thing that diss proves the bible. So many contradictions.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:51 No.14061281

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:51 No.14061281

Replies: >>14061323

>>14061243
I don't remember him mentioning evolution.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:52 No.14061302

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:52 No.14061302

>>14061253
Just because you haven't read it doesn't mean it contradicts itself.

>We are not like Moses, who would put a veil over his face to prevent the Israelites from seeing the end of what was passing away. But their minds were made dull, for to this day the same veil remains when the old covenant is read. It has not been removed, because only in Christ is it taken away.
2 Corinthians 3:14

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:52 No.14061311

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:52 No.14061311

Replies: >>14061375

>Implying science and religion can't co-exist
OP dun goof'd
>Unite all of humanity under one government.
>hahaohwow.avi

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:53 No.14061323

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:53 No.14061323

>>14061281
What do you think eugenics is based on?

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:53 No.14061343

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:53 No.14061343

isolated groups of humans limited by borders, having their own governments give place to speciation

Yes it will destroy the species

And that is good. You dont wanna remain a mediocre homo sapiens forever do yoU?

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:54 No.14061375

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:54 No.14061375

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>>14061311
>Human race surviving while divided into large tribes.
Yeah not going to happen

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:55 No.14061390

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:55 No.14061390

How about no. How about we have the countries unified but autonomous. Coming together to work on new technologies, medical advancements and scientific breakthroughs, creating a spirit of camaraderie, but separate to promote healthy competition. I guess like a competent version of the UN, which will keep out of conflicts unless they become serious (chemical weapons is serious, the threat of nuclear warfare is serious, a genocide is serious) and all countries are on equal footing. Every country is governed through a meritocracy, if you are the most capable to run the economy you run it.
Don't target religion, because why? Atheists can be manipulated and your arrogance in assuming you can't be just shows how vulnerable to manipulation you are, there's also plenty of religious scientists. However science will be promoted amongst the people and saying the earth is a few thousand years old will probably get you mocked on a wider scale than ever before. Also, no using force to take down religions, don't be a cunt.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:55 No.14061396

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:55 No.14061396

Why unite the planet?

How would anyone benefit?

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:56 No.14061403

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:56 No.14061403

Replies: >>14061440

>>14061375
Governments don't unite people, they divide them.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:57 No.14061429

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:57 No.14061429

Replies: >>14061482

>>14061375
Yeah, I mean, it's not like we've managed to survive for 200,000 years like this.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:57 No.14061440

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:57 No.14061440

Replies: >>14061461 >>14061567

>>14061403
A good government enforces laws and regulations and tries to help people.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:57 No.14061445

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:57 No.14061445

>>14061375
>large tribes living on separate plots of land and coexisting with other tribes via beneficial trade

sounds wonderful

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:58 No.14061461

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:58 No.14061461

>>14061440
If intentions mattered prohibition would have ended alcoholism.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:58 No.14061469

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:58 No.14061469

Replies: >>14061565

>>14061253
Contradictions in the Bible are a positive thing, not a negative thing. If it said ''THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO LIVE DOING ANYTHING ELSE IS WRONG'', Christianity would be like Islam is. And Europe would be like the Middle-East is as a result.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:59 No.14061482

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:59 No.14061482

Replies: >>14062222

>>14061429
>No nuclear weapons
Even if the species doesn't an hero we wouldn't be able to work together and get off of this rock and expand into the cosmos.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)16:59 No.14061489

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)16:59 No.14061489

>no socialism

how is my baby supposed to eat if I can't feed it?

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)17:00 No.14061527

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)17:00 No.14061527

>>14060586
JIDF pls.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)17:00 No.14061535

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)17:00 No.14061535

Replies: >>14061646

>>14061243
No, it doesn't. I am a supporter of Christianity. I would prefer it if everyone was a Christian. I don't see your point. Mine was simply that Christianity has been so successful because the Bible is a subjective book and therefore allows people to be Christians and have widely varying beliefs on things - all justified by the same book.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)17:02 No.14061565

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)17:02 No.14061565

Replies: >>14061784

>>14061469
>''THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO LIVE DOING ANYTHING ELSE IS WRONG'
But it does say that. Murder is wrong, and society is better for acknowledging it. Removing that option opens the door to a thousand more.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)17:02 No.14061567

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)17:02 No.14061567

>>14061440
if someone acts on intention alone you can bet your ass they have an alternate motive

Knight solar in training
05/11/13(Sat)17:03 No.14061589

Knight solar in training 05/11/13(Sat)17:03 No.14061589

Replies: >>14061920

>>14061010


3. With all these resources not going into waste with military bickering or economic wastefulness, we focus on sustainability, rationalization, benevolence - all things not possible in the current capitalism. As the money is in our hands now, for starters we'll hand out as much benefits as we can to the people around, with unemployment checks (or free food/water/stuff if the monetary system is fried) getting to 10/10 bretty cool levels as you don't need separate banking, government, over 9000 political shit and charity at the every corner of the world. Different local governments will cater to different needs of people with their control and adhesion to the a b c rules of cool ruling - overpopulated uneducated india =/= high tech japan, and the central government will get the requested building materials/available manpower from place X to place Y for the local governments to manage further, you get the point.

5. Mechanization needs not to be fought as all unnecessary worforce such as most bankers, economists, labourers, private shop owners etc. can lay at home and receive free benefits as they are replaced by more efficient machines and organizations. R&D of the world is united to help facilitate this. Solar panels and wind turbines as well as geothermal energy will replace all other environmentally destructive power sources.

4. Mass media and TV will focus on true freedom, with removal of all commercials and advertisments and being replaced with something education and adhering to common sense, with heavy warnings and explanation of various bullshit people will take time to get rid of (junk food sucks, go out in nature, get away from violence and acquire tolerance, rules a, b, c at home etc). Also what do these rules a, b and c referenced in the previous post remind you of? That's right, common ground of every fucking religion on the planet.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)17:03 No.14061594

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)17:03 No.14061594

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>>14058103 (OP)
are you ready for the happening?

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)17:03 No.14061606

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)17:03 No.14061606

Replies: >>14061677 >>14061714

>>14060333
>Sagan
Agnostic Jew.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)17:04 No.14061646

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)17:04 No.14061646

Replies: >>14061703 >>14061706

>>14061535
>I would prefer it if everyone was christian.
That's exactly what I'm afraid of. People slaying and brainwashing their fellow man in order to make the world christian.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)17:05 No.14061677

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)17:05 No.14061677

>>14061606
Sagan was amazing

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)17:05 No.14061680

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)17:05 No.14061680

Replies: >>14061751

>>14061154
I don't think any western nation is homogeneous. Homogeneous nations that aren't doing well outside of the western world aren't doing well for other reasons, nothing to do with how they're not multicultural.

Also, when the cultures are compatible with each other, multiculturalism is a great thing. That's why the multicultural mosaic of America works fine; because when people of similar genetics, of similar religion and of similar viewpoints mix together, there's no reason things would go badly.

However, in a unified nation that spans the world, the thousands of different cultures would not be compatible with each other. You'd have to restrict immigration all over the place to avoid people mixing where they can't, and you can't do that in your own nation.
>>14061219
I'm going to disregard your post as trolling. You honestly believe that a uni-racial society, like most of Europe has been for dozens of millennia, will suddenly die out from inbreeding? Just every baby has two heads all of a sudden?

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)17:06 No.14061703

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)17:06 No.14061703

>>14061646
Morality can't be imposed, only accepted. People won't do things they don't believe in.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)17:06 No.14061706

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)17:06 No.14061706

Replies: >>14061788

>>14061646
That wouldn't make everyone Christian though. People wouldn't slaughter people to make everyone Christian because that wouldn't make everyone Christian.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)17:07 No.14061714

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)17:07 No.14061714

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>>14061606
there are some jews who were pro-humanity

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)17:08 No.14061751

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)17:08 No.14061751

Replies: >>14061812 >>14062428 >>14063126

>>14061680
Europe isn't 100% white anymore. In Iceland they have breeding laws to prevent people from accidentally fucking their cousins.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)17:09 No.14061784

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)17:09 No.14061784

Replies: >>14061810

>>14061565
The Bible has scripture that encourages violence, even murder. Yes, it's under certain historical contexts, yes, it may be metaphorical - but that's irrelevant. People could still use those scriptures to justify their acts.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)17:09 No.14061788

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)17:09 No.14061788

>>14061706
People who tried to do it would also lose their Christian status, therefor it would be self defeating.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)17:10 No.14061810

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)17:10 No.14061810

Replies: >>14061881

>>14061784
But it doesn't say that anywhere in the New Testament, and there isn't any justification for violent action. Any.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)17:10 No.14061812

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)17:10 No.14061812

Replies: >>14061845

>>14061751
>Europe isn't 100% white anymore. In Iceland they have breeding laws to prevent people from accidentally fucking their cousins.
Are those two sentences unrelated? I'm confused. What's your point?

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)17:12 No.14061845

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)17:12 No.14061845

Replies: >>14062039

>>14061812
That Iceland is a perfect example of why homogenous societies don't work out in the long run.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)17:13 No.14061881

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)17:13 No.14061881

Replies: >>14061925

>>14061810
I pick up a Bible.

I look in the Bible.

I see a piece of scripture.

I read it.

"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives."

I go out and kill a homosexual.

The Bible has just justified violence to me.

Knight solar in training
05/11/13(Sat)17:14 No.14061920

Knight solar in training 05/11/13(Sat)17:14 No.14061920

Replies: >>14062286

>>14061589


6. Most convicts will be released and the more dangerous ones tracked 24/7 with the military remnants' intelligence. Every weapon sold will be tracked 24/7 with RFID and whatnot surveillance available today. Non registered weapons will be taken away and replaced with a tracked version (rule c guys) to statisfy both gun owners and gun haters. Every other form of benevolent privacy will be respected.

7. Information will flow freely as cyber warfare is not neccessary and government gently pushes google's fiber to upgrade the Internet. Which will happen anyways as IT people, no longer bound by corporate laws, remove the obsolete spyware and spam. Various freedom loving hacker groups take residence in the Pentagon to help preserve the benevolence of the service (which is now hard to violate considering all software is free and source codes are released, programmers can be more creative and not basement bound as they are supported by the government just like every other being on the planet.)

8. As the world now has all the predispositions to become the next garden of eden, I can only assume the next steps in our evolution, probably moving all the heavy industry to the moon to flourish, drilling and raping the lifeless ball until we possibly construct space ships. I haven't even tackled at what technologies and knowledges lie supressed today.

This sounds pretty great in my vision. Anyone that has actually read it, please respond.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)17:14 No.14061925

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)17:14 No.14061925

Replies: >>14062109

>>14061881
You could also pick up a copy of The Catcher in the Rye and do the same thig. That doesn't mean anything.

>8 Let no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love one another, for whoever loves others has fulfilled the law. 9 The commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” “You shall not covet,” and whatever other command there may be, are summed up in this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” 10 Love does no harm to a neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.
Romans 13:8-10

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)17:19 No.14062039

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)17:19 No.14062039

Replies: >>14062672

>>14061845
First of all, Iceland is one of the best nations in the world in terms of solidarity, how developed it is, and how productive it is. That doesn't sound like an example of how bad homogeneous nations are.

Second, it's not homogeneous. 6% of its population belongs to a minority group, mainly the Polish.

Third, I'd like to see a citation for that whole ''laws to prevent you from fucking your cousin by accident'' thing.

Fourth and finally, the population of Iceland is the lowest in Europe. It's not a good example of a homogeneous nation failing due to inbreeding if the population is 300,000.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)17:21 No.14062109

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)17:21 No.14062109

Replies: >>14062195

>>14061925
You're missing my point. All I'm saying is that justification for violence is in the Bible. Yes, it's universally subjective and virtually always in the Old Testament, but it's still there. I do not disagree that the Bible generally encourages positive things, but given how it is a subjective book with contradicting scripture - given how it was written by dozens of different people - it does have some eyebrow-raising text.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)17:21 No.14062127

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)17:21 No.14062127

Replies: >>14062388

>>14058103 (OP)
OP, you're a faggot. Your government system is built on a system of oppression and thoughtcrime. Fuck off.

Here's a "perfect" government
>SpaceX takes off. Brings in Asteroids, makes buckets of money.
>Spends money on research and expansion.
>Eventually discover economical space travel.
>Decide to launch private colony. What the fuck is any government on earth gonna do about it?
>Private Colony is huge success
>More private colonies take off as more habitable planets are discovered.
>Eventually terraforming is made economical.
>SpaceX begins setting up even more colonies, and groups of citizens begin buying terraforming services to set up their own.
>no citizenship in space, only paying customers
>People are free to do whatever they want, establish whatever governments they want on the planets outside of the colonies.
>Humanity spreads to the stars
>Government becomes impracticable as the lightyears between empires increase.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)17:23 No.14062195

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)17:23 No.14062195

Replies: >>14062541

>>14062109
>All I'm saying is that justification for violence is in the Bible.
It isn't in the New Testament, and its solutions aren't subjective. If everyone murdered, society wouldn't exist. If having a society is a criteria, the are objective rights and wrongs that either move you towards or away from that goal.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)17:24 No.14062222

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)17:24 No.14062222

>>14061482
The MAD scenario will ensure that nuclear weapons are not fired upon an enemy nation that also possesses nuclear weapons, or have allies that do. Basically, the MAD scenario won't be played out because of the MAD scenario's possibility of being played out if nuclear weapons are used.

Also, what's to stop me, an extravagantly rich billionaire, from funding colonisation on Mars? What's to stop any random individual nation from doing the exact same thing?

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)17:26 No.14062286

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)17:26 No.14062286

>>14061920
lol nobody likes solutions xDD

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)17:27 No.14062331

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)17:27 No.14062331

>>14058103 (OP)
>>Unite all of humanity under one government.

ho boy. 250+ different cultures all being told to act the same way.
You would be better off just killing all 7 billion people to avoid the forever war.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)17:29 No.14062388

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)17:29 No.14062388

Replies: >>14062616 >>14063104

>>14062127

>>14062127
>>Government becomes impracticable as the lightyears between empires increase.

except government will ban space travel once they see the potential for an exodus of tax payers off the planet.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)17:30 No.14062428

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)17:30 No.14062428

Replies: >>14062770

>>14061751
3rd-cousin relationships are actually the Goldilocks zone for breeding.

That law, if it exists, is stupid.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)17:33 No.14062541

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)17:33 No.14062541

Replies: >>14062645

>>14062195
I don't understand what you're saying. You seem to have an idealistic view of human nature, a view that a psychopath seeking to justify his actions by looking at scripture that advocates murdering homosexuals would be like ''Oh, well, it's in the Old Testament. I won't do it now!'' when that obviously wouldn't happen.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)17:34 No.14062577

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)17:34 No.14062577

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>>14058103 (OP)
>>Emphasize that the community is more important than the individual.
Emperor of Mankind, pls go.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)17:36 No.14062616

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)17:36 No.14062616

>>14062388
Or they could have something like the UNSC to stop planets from seceding.

Anonymous
>>14058103 (OP) 05/11/13(Sat)17:36 No.14062630

>>14058103 (OP) Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)17:36 No.14062630

you could of just said the venus project

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)17:36 No.14062645

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)17:36 No.14062645

Replies: >>14062658 >>14062769

>>14062541
I'm just idealizing anything. Crazy people could also do that with any book, that doesn't mean anything about the book.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)17:37 No.14062658

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)17:37 No.14062658

>>14062645
I'm not* idealizing anything.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)17:37 No.14062670

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)17:37 No.14062670

>>14058103 (OP)
>>Emphasize that the community is more important than the individual.

except humans are not built this way.
humans are by their nature, greedy, and self centered.
i mean fuck, even look at Mother Teresa, the supposed end all be all of self sacrifice. That bitch even put herself first over her "patients" in her "hospital"

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)17:37 No.14062672

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)17:37 No.14062672

Replies: >>14063178

>>14062039
They have a website in Iceland to tell if your partner is a blood relative of yours.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)17:38 No.14062696

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)17:38 No.14062696

>>14059295
Democratically imposed authoritarianism is no more just than arbitrarily imposed authoritarianism. Also, by making this one-world government worldwide you give people no option but to toe your line or die. There is no room for alternate paths, no sandboxes of government. Your peace is the peace of the grave!

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)17:40 No.14062769

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)17:40 No.14062769

Replies: >>14062889

>>14062645
But that scripture that openly says to murder homosexuals is in the Bible. You can find it in your own, if you wish. Are certain parts of the Bible not actually parts of the Bible, just because you say so? I can find a verse that advocates violence in the New Testament if you wish. Again, I don't think that's what the Bible is about or what it encourages, but people could and have gotten justification for bad things from the Bible because the Bible does have bad things in it. You have to remember, it was written by dozens of people, all with different viewpoints.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)17:40 No.14062770

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)17:40 No.14062770

>>14062428
Not really. Everyone who has lived more than a century has parents that are not related.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)17:42 No.14062824

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)17:42 No.14062824

I don't see the problem with individual nations colonising planets. Why unite this planet to do that?

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)17:44 No.14062889

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)17:44 No.14062889

Replies: >>14062934 >>14064001

>>14062769
>I can find a verse that advocates violence in the New Testament if you wish.
Do. A non-cherry picked one.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)17:46 No.14062934

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)17:46 No.14062934

Replies: >>14063024

>>14062889

>wants him to cherry pick a non-cherry picked verse.


wut

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)17:48 No.14063003

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)17:48 No.14063003

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>>14060663
+1
"Never perfect.
Perfection goal that changes.
Never stops moving.
Can chase.
Cannot catch."

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)17:48 No.14063017

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)17:48 No.14063017

>>14059507
8/10 would laugh again.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)17:49 No.14063024

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)17:49 No.14063024

>>14062934
A verse that actually calls for violence, not some parable where the landowner kills a servant, which I've seen before.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)17:51 No.14063104

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)17:51 No.14063104

Replies: >>14063419

>>14062388
Every government would have to do it, and it would literally cause riots, banning something like that.

Plus, what are they gonna do to the people who actually make it off planet? Mail them a bill for unpaid taxes?

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)17:52 No.14063126

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)17:52 No.14063126

>>14061751
>>14061154
Yes, letting in waves of low-IQ third worlders will make the West thrive. Certainly. What a fucking utter moron with a destructive and horrific dogma.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)17:53 No.14063178

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)17:53 No.14063178

>>14062672
>thinking any of this supports a greater point.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)17:54 No.14063212

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)17:54 No.14063212

>>14060586
>mfw "Group X" is Jews

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)17:54 No.14063232

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)17:54 No.14063232

Replies: >>14065711

OP: how does it feel to be a faggot with an IQ of 85?

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)18:00 No.14063419

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)18:00 No.14063419

>>14063104

probably brand them as traitors and declare war as a feel good measure.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)18:01 No.14063451

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)18:01 No.14063451

Replies: >>14065745

>>14058103 (OP)
>>Start to feed people science via media so religion will die
like this will solve anything.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)18:17 No.14064001

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)18:17 No.14064001

Replies: >>14064502

>>14062889
''Their bows also shall dash the young men to pieces; and they shall have no pity on the fruit of the womb; their eyes shall not spare children.''

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)18:35 No.14064468

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)18:35 No.14064468

>>14058103 (OP)
rapture

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)18:36 No.14064502

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)18:36 No.14064502

Replies: >>14064539

>>14064001
Isaiah, the Old Testament, which also says about the Messiah:

>He will judge between the nations and will settle disputes for many peoples. They will beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning hooks. Nation will not take up sword against nation, nor will they train for war anymore.
Isaiah 2:4

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)18:38 No.14064539

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)18:38 No.14064539

>>14064502
What's your point?

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)19:21 No.14065711

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)19:21 No.14065711

>>14063232
I wouldn't know.
How does it feel to be a nationalist with the cognitive ability of an insect?

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)19:22 No.14065745

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)19:22 No.14065745

>>14063451
Getting rid of religion would make the world a better place.

Anonymous
05/11/13(Sat)19:29 No.14065938

Anonymous 05/11/13(Sat)19:29 No.14065938

>>14060994

They do so to troll Christians. Because you can't debate with a Christian about Religion/Science/Morality. It's actually like debating with a kid about incoherence in an Iron Man movie. You'll just get angry and it's your own fault for analyzing a book written by some people that never imagined that it would have caused such a shitstorm.

But often atheist are so convinced that they are so smarts because they know from nobody knows who that there is no higher being. This is why they will always be fucking loud about the "NO GOD HUR DUR" and they will always feel the need to rub it in the face of people who believe in something.

They are AS annoying as fucking Jehovah witnesses, but Christians deserved to be trolled.