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>http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2013/04/26/ontario_schools_will_offer_gender_studies_thanks_to_five_young_women_porter.html
>compulsory "gender studies" courses needed to graduate highschool
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>>13573910 (OP)

>gender studies

Gender studies and women's studies are actually different topcis.

Gender studies is more likely to include information on masculinity and on gender expression in general.

Yes, this class will have some feminist shit in it.

Not, this class is not anti-male or anti-man just because it is gender studies.
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What a heinous waste of time and money. "Gender studies" (aka women's studies since it's all these courses ever talk about) is by and large a useless praxis. This is coming from someone who has studied Bell Hooks, Foucault, Royster and more and who can appreciate the implications and the process of analysis of socio-cultural norms through a gender-focused lens; I just feel this kind of critical pedagogy does less to provide insight in the mind but rather acts as a mechanism to demonize an entire coterie of society.

They would do better to instead invest more in their math and computer science departments. Lord knows they'll have to hire some teachers to teach this trite garbage, and it'll end up being a teacher who identifies with an imaginary gender like "genderfluid", a person with extreme gender dysphoria. Time to move out of Ontario if this kind of indoctrination and society-condemning agenda is going to be shoved down my son's throat.
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>>13573989

>studied Foucault

/lit/ pls go, also >even bothering with learning about homosexuals
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>>13573963
They're still going to learn about anti-male subjects like "Patriarchy Theory" and "Rape Culture." Gender studies only includes topics about men where they can demonize them.

I can guarantee you that Male Disposability will not even get a mention.
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>>13573989
It will probably be one of the countless morons who took "Women's/Gender studies" and has nowhere to use their worthless degree.
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>literacy, science and maths results are falling
>QUICK
>PUMP MONEY INTO SOMETHING USELESS

Woman logic.
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>>13573910 (OP)
Meanwhile, useful stuff like programming gets cancelled to allow for a bigger budget for the sports team. They can't give high school students an important early introduction to programming, but they can waste their time on this crap?
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>>13573989

>putting tax dollars and manhours into something no one would ever take unless it was mandatory instead of dividing the money into every other subject

When I was in highschool, there was ONE economics teacher who doubled as accounting teacher. They had to stop accepting students at 45 (when most classrooms are 30 to 35 students) because so many people wanted to take it. It's a shame money is being siphoned into this trash instead of something students WANT and WILL NEED.
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>>13573963
>“Instead of talking about what the girl did and how ‘she had this coming to her,’ the focus might have been on ‘how these guys go through life not knowing about consent?’ ” says Lara Shkordoff.

>“It would have provided a safe space for students to talk about these things,” says Sarah Ghabrial.

Sounds like men are: A) Going to be lectured about how it's rape if they don't ask "Is this okay?" every thrust; and B) Be subjected to a vagina-fest "safe space" where everyone has to be "vulnerable" and share feelings with the talking stick.

If we took out all the working hours wasted on talking about how goopy someone's vagina is because rain makes her sad, wouldn't we be to Wolf 359 by now?
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>>13573963
and gender studies will say how gender is a social construct and all that sjw bullshit
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So, rather than teaching kids useful things like economics, politics, deduction, arguing, computing, programming, communications, etc, they're teaching them about "gender studies"?

>another generation of MUH WAGE GAP
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>>13574092
It's okay if we are all dumb as long as we are in touch with our feelings.
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>>13574224
>gender is a social construct

Isn't that something from the Frankfurt School?
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>>13574224

Someone actually told me once that gender is a spectrum and not binary.

>mfw I dropped that course because the prof was certified retard
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>>13573989
>mfw I got told I was "STEM privilege" because I am getting a masters in chemistry
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RAGE
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>>13574266
this shit isn't localized anon get it together
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>>13574306

Any realization of "privilege" is brought upon by the decisions an individual makes for themselves. Society isn't "bringing you down"; more times than not it's a combination of things including the sheer idiocy of decisions a person makes. Classism may exist, but gender inequality brought about by society does not (anymore).
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>>13574129
Fat beta nerd detected


DURR EVIL JOCKS HURR
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Fuck I may have to send my children to Catholic school if this trickles south.

Why isn't this a course about treating your fellow humans with respect instead of a "men need to learn these lessons from wise womyn" course?
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>>13573963
>Gender studies is more likely to include information on masculinity and on gender expression in general.

Because discussions on masculinity will be done in a way that celebrates or at least recognizes it's need in today's society.

Right?


....right?
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>>13573910 (OP)
>Canada

Glad I'm living in Australia. I never heard any Australian universities offer a bachelor degree for "gender studies"
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>>13574363

Programming doesn't begin and end at code. You learn useful shit like logic, deduction, etc.
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Had one of these in undergrad. It's basically white privilege + male privilege = you're a terrible person don't you know how you make women FEEL?
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>>13574363
That was the explicit reason they gave at my high school for cutting programming: they needed more money for sports equipment.

It's a school, it's supposed to be for learning. Doesn't matter whether you dislike it, education should come before sports at a centre of education.
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>>13574491
sorry anon you can't know what its like to not be privileged if you can't get a dick in your vagina
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>>13574521
Being forced to take a course about the evils of people with Y chromosomes certainly fits the mold for disadvantaging me. Class sounds like a space for female privilege to run wild.
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I officially hate my province.

This is the start, just watch, this is gonna start happening elsewhere. I can't believe this shit is seriously being taught in schools, this is religion vs atheism level shit and they're just putting it in no questions asked!? Kids are actually gonna think this shit is normal if they do this, this is a circlejerk that MUST be stopped before it grows larger.
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Thank you based God for Pierce v. Society of Sisters.

USA!
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If only the world had listened to Jimmy. ;_;
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top lel

oh canada
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>>13574026

>Male Disposability
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>>13574363
actually a fair amount of I guess what you could call jocks did take programming at my highschool. It really opened their eyes to what computing really was.
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>>13573910 (OP)

I love knowing that I live in America where schools can't even teach basic math, nevertheless history or srs crap
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>>13574675
Really?

Nutshell: Women are unique beautiful snowflakes to be cherished at all times.

Men are interchangeable robots who fight wars and die, do dangerous jobs and die etc. but who cares because there are some more men over there.

The long and the short of it is that men are not valued as individuals. Think LoTR Orcs.
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>>13574707

so you admit you are a fat beta nerd.
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>>13574764
>Men are interchangeable robots who fight wars and die

more women died in the past 50 years from infanticide than men ever died from wars in all recorded history
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>>13574710
>>13574710
>>13574710
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>>13573963
this is literally just women's studies being labeled as something else. Just like how a rose by any other name would smell as sweet, a shitty class by another other name would be as shitty.
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>>13574814
>more women died in the past 50 years from infanticide

Take that up with China if you really care, it isn't happening in the west
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>>13574814
>more women died in the past 50 years from infanticide than men ever died from wars in all recorded history

[citation needed]
Not being a dick, that just seems interesting enough if verified
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>>13574663
our fucking nations shit true feminist bullcrap across all our nations land dadadadada oh canada we shit on the floor for threeee (trumpets)
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>>13574814
you're gonna need some serious citations to support that post
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>>13574675
Men's lives are not treated with worth. Men are pretty much just providers and if they're not being of service to someone (usually women) they're not worthy of love or respect.

Men's deaths are also treated with less tragedy than women's deaths. Usually masked behind regarding them as gender neutral job titles rather than human beings. (Soldiers, miners, police officers)
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>>13574785
not fat, not beta and I definitely refuse to be called a nerd after what hipsters have turned the term into.
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>no one graduates from Highschool anymore
>Double win for feminists
THE SUFFERING
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>>13574219
>If we took out all the working hours wasted on talking about how goopy someone's vagina is because rain makes her sad, wouldn't we be to Wolf 359 by now?
lol remind all of society not to take even a minute out of their day to help you with anything. y'know, cuz we've got space exploration to get to, cant be helping people be psychologically healthy
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I hope you all realize that this feminism nonsense that permeates society today is different from traditional feminism. Bell Hooks said that "[feminism's] emphasis must be on cultural transformation: destroying dualism, eradicating systems of domination" and that "[modern feminism] offers women not liberation but the right to act as a surrogate [man]". Feminists today want more power, to act as a "surrogate man", a perceived status they believe so much controls the world. They don't want equality, they want everything and beyond.

Because dualism and gender inequality does not exist today for women, feminism has shifted to instead try to reverse historical gender roles and take away the rights of men. This is why divorce court and employment is wholly inequal to men.

tl;dr: feminism in the 1910s to around the 60s was awwwwwright; anything after should be Exterminatus.
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>>13574927
>1910s to around the 60s

>"We want the right to vote, but not the obligation to military service men have."
>"OK, whatever the lady wants."
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>>13574026
gender studies also talks about masculinity and body image issues for men
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>learning about gender
>bad

You can't be serious, misogynists.
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/pol/ was right again.
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>>13574966

And do you really think this will be discussed in an unbiased light? Remember that it will most likely be a woman teaching these courses, and she most likely has a women's studies degree.

>>13574960

Would you really want women on the frontlines? Look at modern military that allows women into service. You know how many men have died due to women idiocy at the front lines? Do you think a woman would risk her life to save a man in danger?
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>>13574966
>gender studies also talks about masculinity
In the sense that masculinity is evil.
>and body image issues for men
No it doesn't.
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Why so angry anon?
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>>13574927

>employment
>not fair to men

wut
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>>13573910 (OP)
Oh god, I can only imagine the bullshit. Especially with liberal faggots going on about shit like "genderfluid".

You know guys, I am starting to miss the Catholic church already. Sure Europe under them was corrupt and had lots of problems. But god damn its starting to look like a good alternative.
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>>13575000
My point was that if they don't have the responsibility they shouldn't have the right that is paid to them for their obligation.
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>thread chock full of sexist remarks
>"HURR BUT WHY DO WE NEED GENDER STUDIES??? LOOK AT THE HEALTHY UNBIASED ATTITUDES WE HAVE ABOUT GENDER??"
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>>13575027
>only the brown one dosent look like a jew
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>>13575035

An employer has to hire a woman knowing full well they may be susceptible to paying day care fees, maternity leave, and other absences. Women can get up to a full year's paid leave the moment they shit out a kid, and if an employer has a problem with this grave injustice, human rights tribunals crucifies them. MUH WOMYNS RIGHTS, etc.
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>>13574927
look back at every major culture/empire that fell, such as the romans, not too long before they fell, women started wanting more rights, to be more like men. Every god damn one that fell this happened to. This uprising of extremist feminists doesn't mark some sort of new high for humanity, but rather a sign that it is about to start tumbling down.
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>>13575035
>What is Affirmative Action?
>What is sexual harassment allegations without evidence
>What is Donglegate?
>What is "female safe space"
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why do you guys get so angry about people not identifying with their physical gender? how is that something which affects you? how has YOUR quality of life lessened because of the recognition of genders outside the 2 you were taught growing up?
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The logical endpoint for democracy. Instead of just doing what they want to do, the powers that be now tell people what to think, so the people can tell them to do what they were going to do anyway.
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>>13575080

Only Sharia can save us now.
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>>13575080
>MUH ROMAN EMPIRE
lol funny how everything social conservatives dont like was what brought about the end of the roman empire somehow.
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>>13574912
Your post makes little to no sense. You seem to be saying help with "anything" is a societal duty and we should all throw on the brakes to help people be in good mental health.

This proposition makes no sense because society already has support groups, therapy, pharmacological treatments etc. to assist with mental hygiene. What is the point of mandating participation in helping other people talk about their feelings when there are already adequate courses for them to pursue on their own?


Would you like to try again?
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>>13575105

Because we get gender dysphoric men and women who identify with the opposite or an imaginary gender instilling the idea that being gay is okay in our children. I don't know about you, but I would very much like my lineage to continue.

Not even mentioning transvestite pedophiles using the wrong washroom to scoop up our children.
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>>13575080
What about Sparta
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>>13573989

>heinous
>praxis
>pedagogy
>demonize
>coterie
>using big words no one has even heard of in the last 100 years to try and sound smart
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>>13575150
lol aya no you're right, those suffering from any kind of mental illness should be shunned and told to shut up about their condition in the company of others. no way in hell should we be creating a safe space in a learning environment where kids can talk about their problems and learn about the problems others around them are having. hell, look at what a cloudy understanding of gender issues all the people in this thread who have never taken a class on it seem to have

would YOU like to try again?
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>>13574814
>more women died in the past 50 years from infanticide than men ever died from wars in all recorded history

Actually billions of men die each minute while women are BECOMING IMMORTAL.
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>>13575199
>using big words no one has even heard of in the last 100 years to try and sound smart

I've heard of all those and had no trouble with the post.
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>>13575199
b8 please leave
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>women dictate men to change to environment to suit them
>men do as they're told
>women exhibit their inherent greed by demanding ways to benefit from men without associating with them (alimony, child support; briffault's law)
>man pony up the cash
>women stop working once the work place becomes dangerous, then call it oppression when they can't work when it's safer
>men hang their heads in shame

Men = Nature's biggest mugs
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>>13575199

I think this post is indicative of the reasons why we need to ditch this women's studies crap and siphon money into actually teaching our kids. Jesus H. Christ, how American can you be?
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I wish every gay, tranny and whatever make believe thing people claim they are realized how ashamed their family line must be, a direct, successful line of straight men and women just to be stopped by them because they had some issues that others exploited to make them into mental issues (ie homosexuality, transexualism)
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>Living in the Anglo sphere in 2013
>Not moving to Sealand
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>>13575027
Why does the smuggest looking one always have the reddest lipstick money can buy?
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>>13575199
>calling out other people for being smarter than you
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>>13575067
>jew
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>>13575256
>some issues that others exploited to make them into mental issues
what is that supposed to mean?
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>>13574927
But thats bullshit because
>>13574960

>>13575000
I dont care about women serving on the front lines. Its a terrible ideea because women cant handle shit. But stuff like this
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_feather#World_War_I

Is utter bullshit.
>In August 1914, at the start of the First World War, Admiral Charles Fitzgerald founded the Order of the White Feather with support from the prominent author Mrs Humphrey Ward. The organization aimed to shame men into enlisting in the British Army by persuading women to present them with a white feather if they were not wearing a uniform.[2]
>The organization aimed to shame men into enlisting in the British Army by persuading women to present them with a white feather if they were not wearing a uniform.[2]
>The organization aimed to shame men into enlisting in the British Army
Yes, women were so fucking opressed. Meanwhile they had no issue trying to shame any guy who didnt think walking to his death was a good idea. WW1 had insanely high casualties, there is nothing wrong with men who didnt want to fight it, ofc women never got to worry about that did they, so they had no issue forcing them to die.

>This was joined by prominent feminists and suffragettes of the time, such as Emmeline Pankhurst and her daughter Christabel.
Its not just a modern thing where women were bitches.
>They, in addition to handing out the feathers, also lobbied to institute an involuntary draft of men, including those who lacked votes due to being too young or not owning property.[3][4]
When shame fails, force them to die anyway. Just the men though. Only te soviets would have women only units.
Oh and before women bitch
>including those who lacked votes due to being too... not owning property.
Its not just women who couldnt vote, but all you ever hear about is patriarchy.
Also given them pushing for men to die in a war becuase they felt comfy knowing they never had to fight it. Its pretty clear we didnt let them vote for a reason.
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>>13575289
>Nose
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>>13574824
>I KNOW MORE THAN THE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY MADE THE COURSE! IT'S WOMEN'S STUDIES ACCORDING TO MY DEGREE IN SITTING ON THE COUCH
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>women shouldn't hold absolute power

Miss me yet?
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>>13575358
nobody misses you ayn rand
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>>13575199

>heinous
>demonize
>using big words no one has even heard of in the last 100 years
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>>13574292
that nigger on the right is just enjoying that
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>>13575338
>Meanwhile they had no issue trying to shame any guy
>Admiral Charles Fitzgerald founded the Order of the White Feather
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>>13575358
>ayn rand
lel more like ayn RETARD, amirite?
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>>13574986
>misogynists
blow me,SRS
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>>13575230

I haven't heard any of them; you'd have to be a real hipster to use such archaic nomenclature for something that can expressed more concisely.
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WON'T SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE WOMEN AND CHILDREN
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>>13575260
also the jewest nose and jewest hair
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I have taken a college gender studies class and it is everything /pol/ says it is.
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>>13575358
>Miss me yet?
No.

"I am most anxious to enlist everyone who can speak or write to join in checking this mad, wicked folly of 'Women's Rights,' with all its attendant horrors, on which her poor feeble sex is bent, forgetting every sense of womanly feelings and propriety. Feminists ought to get a good whipping. Were woman to 'unsex' themselves by claiming equality with men, they would become the most hateful, heathen and disgusting of beings and would surely perish without male protection."
~ Queen Victoria
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>>13575351
nice argument m8.

They couldn't get "womens studies" into the curriculum so they changed the name to "gender studies", that aside, even if it was truly gender studies, I still don't want that shit being forced down the throat of any youth in this province.
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>>13575393
No shit, I included that part.
but good job ignoring everything about how the women tried to shame men into doing something they would never have to do, and something they knew they would never have to do.
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>>13575217
Still can't understand your point. You seem to be saying NOW that I proposed eliminating all discussion of people's problems.

You said
>lol remind all of society not to take even a minute out of their day to help you with anything. y'know, cuz we've got space exploration to get to, cant be helping people be psychologically healthy

Thus implying I argued we should make a concerted effort not to help the mentally disturbed or those with troubles. The thread, at the point I responded, was focused on mandating that people take this course. That is the assumption under which I wrote my post. My point was that for every hour someone who is healthy goes to a workshop, that is an hour of productivity lost unnecessarily.

Yet you did not respond to my central point: Support groups and outreach programs already exist. "Working hours" (mentioned in my first post) refereed to the implied mandate for participation. My question was, in so many words, "What could we accomplish if we stopped mandating people participate in feelings workshops?" Nowhere did I suggest the venue to discuss one's problems should not exist, I merely said that making people go and listen to them is a waste of time for the mentally sound/ well-adjusted.

Why should we add one into the already overloaded curriculum when those who do not wish to/need to participate could be doing something else?

If you can actually defend your argument and employ some form of coherent style I would be happy to listen.
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>>13575500

dats a good quote nigga
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>>13575500
>"I am most anxious to enlist everyone who can speak or write to join in checking this mad, wicked folly of 'Women's Rights,' with all its attendant horrors, on which her poor feeble sex is bent, forgetting every sense of womanly feelings and propriety. Feminists ought to get a good whipping. Were woman to 'unsex' themselves by claiming equality with men, they would become the most hateful, heathen and disgusting of beings and would surely perish without male protection."

Old timey people sure did know a lot about female nature.

Or rather, had the balls to say it.
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ITT: SRS shitposters as far as the eye can see
>mfw all those posts preceded by "lol"
>mfw I have no face
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>>13575524
>My point was that for every hour someone who is healthy goes to a workshop, that is an hour of productivity lost unnecessarily.
>Yet you did not respond to my central point
read my post again you fucking buffoon
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>>13574129
Lol faggot, every useful program is already out there, computer science is a thing of the past. Stand down before the men that will get your women anyway.

USA USA USA USA USA
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>>13575358
so ayn random DX
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>>13575565
here i'll help you find the part that matters:
>no way in hell should we be creating a safe space in a learning environment where kids can talk about their problems and learn about the problems others around them are having. hell, look at what a cloudy understanding of gender issues all the people in this thread who have never taken a class on it seem to have
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>>13575495
Sometimes we have to play down what is actually happening, in case it is mistaken for hyperbole. Most of what you see here is just the tip of the iceberg.
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>>13575500
>Were woman to 'unsex' themselves by claiming equality with men, they would become the most hateful, heathen and disgusting of beings and would surely perish without male protection."

Victoria cofirmed for prophet.
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>In an interview with Radio Times, he provocatively asserted that the BBC was being "ruined by women", commenting that: "The trouble is that the BBC now is run by women and it shows: soap operas, cooking, quizzes, kitchen-sink plays. You wouldn't have had that in the golden days."
>In his June 2002 appearance on Room 101 he banished female news readers into Room 101.
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>>13575547
just goes to show how bad it's become since then.
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>>13575653
>LOOK AT US
>ATTACKING A KINDLY OLD PRIEST WHO WONT FIGHT BACK
>WE ARE SO OPPRESSED
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Im speechless. What a waste of time.
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>>13575500
>by claiming equality with men, they would become the most hateful, heathen and disgusting of beings and would surely perish without male protection

OH FUCK QUEEN VIC CONFIRMED FOR PRECOG
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>>13575679
oh ya, it's so bad that blowhard figureheads who cant comprehend anything outside of a life of extreme privilege think they can speak for the poor and disenfranchised members of their gender. what a fucking cunt.
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>The female, not the male, determines all the conditions of the animal family. Where the female can derive no benefit from association with the male, no such association takes place.
>Robert Briffault

"Thus it lies in the nature of women to regard everything simply as a means of capturing a man, and their interest in anything else is only simulated."
-Arthur Schopenhauer
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>>13575653

>ANUS DEI IS COMING
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>>13575714
This must be a shoop.
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>>13573963
>Not, this class is not anti-male or anti-man just because it is gender studies.
the point is that its useless bullshit.
Anything but science, language and maybe arts has no place in a school.
especially indoctrination
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>>13575697
>Im speechless. What a waste of time.
I don't care about the time wasted, at least not as much as it being the main gripe.

I care about the money wasted. How is this helping anything? We're in a recession. We need industry, not feelings.
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>>13575756
it is
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>>13575782
not in Venezuela.
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>>13575664
What did the BBC used to show?

Because the only channel i know of that went to shit was History and discovery.
I miss nature shows, an seeing stuff like the crusades.
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Good. Maybe the decadent fat fucks in that city will finally realize that something is terribly wrong with the education system in general and DO SOMETHING.

Fucking absurd that this is part of curriculum before logic, deduction and programming are.
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>>13575852
This is what BBC documentaries used to be like.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2vOYmu90KM

Watch this series. It's amazing.
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>>13575852
>What did the BBC used to show

Mainly documentaries on cheese-making on repeat.
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>>13575714
Calling fake?

Nothing surprises me anymore.

Damn it, the apathy is getting to me!
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>>13575939
>1964
I was born too late for this golden age.
So when did the BBC go to shit? Because I was borin in 93, and its always been shit.
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>>13573910 (OP)
I'm not seeing anything about the course being mandatory. Still bullshit, there are better courses that aren't part of the system yet.
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>"It is an amazing thing to see in our city the wife of a shoemaker, or a butcher, or a porter dressed in silk with chains of gold at the throat, with pearls and rings of good value....and then in contrast to see her husband cutting the meat, all smeared with cow's blood, poorly dressed.... but whosoever considers this carefully will find it reasonable, because it is necessary that the lady, even if low born and humble, be draped with such clothes for her natural excellence and dignity, and the man [be] less adorned as if a slave, or a little ass, born to her service."
>— Lucrezia Marinella, Venice, Italy, 1600
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>>13576087
OPPRESSION!

PATRIARCHY!
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>>13576087
>Lucrezia Marinella (c.1571-1653) was an Italian author and one of the early advocates of women's rights in Italy

The bitch still whined about thier "rights" too.
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>"The women's suffrage movement is only the small edge of the wedge, if we allow women to vote it will mean the loss of social structure and the rise of every liberal cause under the sun. Women are well represented by their fathers, brothers, and husbands."
>- Winston Churchill
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>>13576144
Except it was a legit cause in 1600
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>>13575939
>all these quotes
>all these facts
>no bullshit "dramatisation" of events

Incredible.
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'MURIKA!
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>>13576234
> legit cause
>the man [be] less adorned as if a slave, or a little ass, born to her service.
>legit cause
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and this is how liberals get jobs, despite those jobs being absolutely worthless to society.
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Uh, that article doesn't say anyone is forced to take the class, nor is it compulsory.

Anyone got a source on kids being "forced" to take this class?
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>>13574814
Take into regard that women stand for the majority of infanticide.
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>>13576266

Eh, yes, it's talking about how women are prized even in the lower classes whereas men are treated and look like shit most of the time.
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>>13576270
BUT MUH FEELINGS
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>>13576333
So why is that an issue for WOMEN'S rights?
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>>13575606
>talk about their problems
>gender studies
Either the name of the course is crap or you're full of shit. Unless you have a reason for privileging gender-based issues over other issues?

This is aside from whether requiring people to help others with their therapy is a sensible, beneficial and moral choice, which you still haven't given any argument for, as >>13575524 pointed out.
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>>13576076
Can someone answer this? The only thing I see is it is "part of curriculum". Does that mean mandatory?
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>>13576266
The problem is the choice, you werent allowed to possess bank accounts or live a normal life without being a housewive
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>>13576367

Because she defended all sorts, women included. Ergo, she advocated, amongst other things, women's rights.

Is thinking really this hard for some of you?
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>>13576234
>bitch covered in gold and silk
>man dressed like a slave and working while she stays at home
>legit cause
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>>13576378
That's actually a good point. Having a look to see if I can find anything now.
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>>13576378

Nope, the OP lied just to get more posts in his thread.

Gender studies will be offered, just as metalshop and cooking were offered at my high school, and we weren't forced to take those.
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>>13574814
>20 million soviet soldiers die in ww2 alone
>20 million Chinese soldiers in a civil war in the 11th century
>Mongols
>Rome
>us civil war
>30 years war

Just how many bitches died? I'm pretty sure it's not in the hundreds of millions
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>>13576333
>Womens rights
>She is the author of several noted works such as La Nobilta et l'eccellenza delle donne, co' difetti et mancamenti degli uomoni (The nobility and excellences of women, and the defects and vices of men)

Yeah right.
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>>13576378
It means schools can choose to teach that as a subject, that means women's studies graduates trying to get a job will go to a school and say "I WANT TO TEACH", and if the school is lacking on other teachers to teach other subjects then she gets to teach children about the wonders of feminism and male patriarchy.
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>>13576441

FYI, we're not talking about a guy getting the bus to go to the factory for 9-5 every day, we're talking about blacksmiths, butchers, grocers, farmers etc. who all lived with or above their places of work.
And yes, a lot of females chipped in labour for this, especially in agricultural work. They weren't the dainty things that most people like to pretend they were.

In fact the notion of a wholly "stay at home" woman is a middleclass, urban invention.
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Can someone tell me what exactly the problem with that is?
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>>13576515

Which part of my post disagrees with that?

Or do you just knee-jerkedly react every time someone even slightly says something benefitting women?
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>>13576593

There's no problem with the *real* story, which is that the class will be offered, and is not mandatory.

If it were mandatory, the problem with that is glaringly obvious.
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>>13576627
Only thats bullshit because its not womens rights.
Her book title shows how she viewed women as good and men as bad, despite men slaving away and thier wives getting gold and silk.
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>>13576651
>If it were mandatory, the problem with that is glaringly obvious.

Oh no! It's such a shame that our youngest men are going to be indoctrinated with misandristic concepts like consent and equality.
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>>13574814
So many men died in WW2 that Russia has a shortage of men to this day.

srs pls go.
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>>13576705

Do people in /pol/ still fall for fake SRS posts? I haven't been here a lot, lately.
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what will happen
>people will try to become teachers with women's studies as a teachable
>will still fail to get jobs

the teacher situation in ontario is crazy
one of my friends managed to land a job just before it started.
Basically for every opening in schools there are many hundreds or thousands of recent graduates applying. The few that are getting jobs as teachers are former teachers. None of these new graduates can get experience teaching as teachers aren't retiring, instead they are opting to become substitute teachers.
All the new graduates are basically fucked over, kinda like the IT boom.

Too many teachers and they get too high wages. They're something like the third highest paid public teachers in the world, the ones here in ontario. In about 4-6 years after landing a job as a teacher, if they take a few simple courses they can get wage bumps to a bit over $100,000. Not to mention their pension is really good too.
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Good work trolls ITT, you've outdone yourself really.
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>>13576740
I dunno, >>13576705 sounds pretty SRS. Doesn't really matter too much since ignoring them is the best method of dealing with both.
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>>13576861
>>13576740
>i have no retort
>better cry "SRS/JIDF pls go"
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>>13576705
>men should be slaves to women
>anytime a woman regrets her actions with a man she should accuse the man of rape, or actually if she just dislikes the man in general and this should not be questioned at all
yeah that sounds like consent and equality
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>>13576968
>men should be slaves to women
>anytime a woman regrets her actions with a man she should accuse the man of rape, or actually if she just dislikes the man in general and this should not be questioned at all

That's not what's being tought at a gender studies class. What the fuck are you talking about?
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>>13576738
Not the srs faggots but source on this?
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>>13575606

>Needing a gender studies class in higher education to know shit about the opposite gender's problems.

If it's come to this you've already fucked up.
Look at all the anons in this and other threads talking about candid grandparents giving them the run-down on the sexes.

Its allowing this sort of knowledge and discussion to be corralled into the PC university environment that's poisoning the well and ruining people's perceptions to begin with.
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>>13576698

Actually it is.
Bear in mind this was the era of the literal Witchhunt, so her railing against barbarism can be somewhat justified.

Plus, if you buy into their line of thinking, it's "misogyny" (or at least a real belief that women are inferior things) that puts women in such delicate garbs while making men, as said above, disposable.
>>
if they're teaching this shit as a class what the fuck are they teaching in sex ed these days?
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>>13577246
>opposite gender's problems

That implies men have problems. Any "problems" they have is just "the patriarchy backfiring on them."
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>>13577301
Point is its hypocritical being opressed, when you are better off than the opresser becuase of said "opression".
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>>13577457
*saying you are
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>>13577332

True, it's almost as if this 'patriarchy' isn't by-men-for-men at all!
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>>13577457

Welcome to the past 6000 years of intellectual development.
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>>13574306
Well yeah, you've got a privilege in the sense that you can acquire better jobs and have a much more practical knowledge than they do.
You obtained that privilege through hard work/study.
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>>13577457
>women
>better off

how?
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>>13573910 (OP)
More brainwashing instead of teaching kids critical thinking and freethought.

It's like teaching religions, it should be banned from school.
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>>13574207
Who are you to say what the children shall learn, bigoted scum?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-eVF_G_p-Y
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This is excellent news. As an engineer in Ontario there will be even less competition in the market for any high school grads as everyone will be going back to study arts and work in Starbucks.
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>>13578047
>Men are never expected to marry upwards.
>There are more men suicides than women suicides.
>Judges always give shorter punishments to women.
>alimony
>there is no thing as a beta woman.
>women almost don't perform any of the bad jobs of society like working on sewers, or carry heavy things. Perhaps most men don't but in the case you are unemployed, yo don't need to worry as a woman that you will fall into inhuman works.
>Women have actually the power to push around most men, if they're at least midly cleaned. Wether by looks or just guilt tripping. This is not absolute, but it's a small bonus to social interactions.
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>>13575199
I'll admit that poster sounded like a massive twat and I didn't even bother giving 2 shits what he had to say... but I assure you people have heard and use the words heinous and demonize all the fucking time.
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>>13578331
eh there are beta women. ugly women are sort of

they're still better off than beta dudes
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>>13575199
Man, I'm not even a native english speaker and I know all those words.

Are you a fucking ignorant?
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>>13578571
Exactly.

The worst part of being beta, is seeing your same characteristics on a woman (social ineptitude or awkwardnes, geeky pasttimes, etc) and realizing it's not an obstacle for them. Nobody will think "I can do better" while she goes all aspergers talking about dr who while nobody cares. (or at least, not enough people to make her fell forever alone).

The most similar thing is fat women, but even then there is fatty lovers while there is no beta lovers. And fatness is more easy to cure than betaness.
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>>13575653

Jesus, what were they trying to accomplish with that? what do these women try to accomplish when they take their clothes off in public??
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Equality is nothing but an illusion, it's believing that everyone can agree together and we can create a concept of fairness that appeals to all. Never going to happen.

Women used the stupidity of certain men who believed in this concept to promote "equality" (aka feminism). The worst part is, they don't even realize what their actions/thinking will lead to in the future.

Don't get me wrong, I believe in my version of equality and fairness in the world.

- divorces based on contribution rather than half-half.
- child custody being granted to the more capable adult or both. Whichever, is best for the child.
- women and men being able to get any job they qualify for. And the smarter/stronger individual obtaining priority based on the job. No ethnic/gender consideration.

This is true "equality" if it existed. Not the feminist garbage we are taught.
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>>13578761

This is why we need gender studies, to teach people like you that that is wrong. Fucking misogynistic pig.
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>>13578810
>this is why we need gender studies, because we should indoctrinate out the dissenting voice.
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>>13578810

How the fuck is he wrong? That's equality if I've ever seen it.
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>>13578698
>what do these women try to accomplish when they take their clothes off in public??

Attention. And they got it.
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>>13574824
>this is literally just women's studies being labeled as something else. Just like how a rose by any other name would smell as sweet, a shitty class by another other name would be as shitty.

Wow you should write a play.
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>>13578855

As vengeance for the wrongdoings men have done to women since the dawn of time. Men should have 0 rights.
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>>13574814
We really need to start teaching women to stop murdering children. You'd think with Safe Haven laws, adoption, and other legal recourse that allow them to abandon their children the problem wouldn't be so big. But, women just seem to prefer killing infants to other options.
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>>13574814
>more women died in the past 50 years from infanticide than men ever died from wars in all recorded history

Hmm let's see, being a chinese male forced to do borderline slave labor for 50 years before rolling over from a heart attack...

or

Being aborted before you're ever born.


Oh ya dam gurl you sure got the short stick there.

>60 million men died in world war 2 alone

Gonna need sum citations to support this shizat
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>>13578959

Don't forget the 600 trillion of the chosen people who died during WW2.
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>>13578983
it was 1000 Quadrillion you bigot.
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>>13574498
>It's a school, it's supposed to be for learning. Doesn't matter whether you dislike it, education should come before sports at a centre of education.

Bur hurrr we're educatin people bout the importance of playin sports!
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>>13578983
>>13579035
Anti-semites, the number of G-d's Chosen People who died in the Shoah cannot be measured in any numbers, to render it would require more data than could be stored with every atom in the universe!
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>>13579035
>it was 1000 Quadrillion you bigot.

Whoa whoa no need for anti-semitism and hate crime holocaust denial guys, everyone knows the 6 pentillion jews suffered an eternity of endless pain in the camps.

They say if you listen really hard, you can still hear their shekels to this day...

>im watching you pol
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>>13578930
>We really need to start teaching women to stop murdering children

But muh infant murder rights...
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>>13578899
>As vengeance for the wrongdoings men have done to women since the dawn of time. Men should have 0 rights.

[Proof or it didn't happen]
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>>13575500
>Were woman to 'unsex' themselves by claiming equality with men, they would become the most hateful, heathen and disgusting of beings and would surely perish without male protection."

What the FUCK can she see the future?
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>>13579184
>my infanticide rights
my sides
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>>13575721
>oh ya, it's so bad that blowhard figureheads who cant comprehend anything outside of a life of extreme privilege think they can speak for the poor and disenfranchised members of their gender. what a fucking cunt.

Implying women have ever been the poor or disenfranchised members in society.

Over 95% of all homeless people are men.

Over 99% of all refuse collectors, sewage workers, or jobs involving risk of radiation exposure are men.

The ratio of male to female successful suicide is just above 4:1.

But yes, continue on about how the 60 million women were drafted and hauled away to fight in the front lines of world war 1, many of whom got gangrene over the course of weeks standing in swampy trench water. There were messenger girls riding bikes with limbs half decayed off from the infection.

Oh wait, that was men, women were at home shaming other men with the white flower campaign.


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