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Murrika is done. The country is done, the show is over, the police state is officially established and nobody cares.

Manning gets sentenced and there are a mere 20 protesters who stand up against this bullshit, everyone else cant be bothered enough to get their ass up. Congratz Murrika, even here in Austria we have a better protesting-culture.

Seriously, I would have thought the transition to a totalitarian police state would be bloody, people would at least try to give it a last shot and fight for the most of basic rights, but nothing, nada.

You are just a joke. I will personally laugh and then spit on every American I come across here in good ol yurop, you dont deserve any better.
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>>18186222 (OP)
What have you done other than complain on the internet?
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Yuropoors dont realize that once America is finished, they wont get anymore of our semen
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>>18186343

went to demonstrations regularly, engaged in a civil court fight against the Austrian way of NSA-spying (all our phone/internet connections are logged for 6 months), raised awareness for that same matter by engaging in paperstorms, direct talks with various Austrian politicans, and I had various letter to the editors published concerning "police state matters". So, pretty much everything a civilian can do in this regard without commiting a crime. What have you done?
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>>18186458
I'm seriously more comfortable with swallowing chinese come than yours.
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What did you expect? Bitch judge would jeopardize her career if she didn't convict.
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>>18186897

I expected death penalty, considering this he actually came out good with his 100+ years sentence.
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>>18186222 (OP)
You wouldn't do shit pussy I'd beat your eurotrash gypsy skull in and then make you suck my dick, then you'd go back to your 1700's era mudbrick shanty till 4 bong and then ride your horse into town for a pint
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>>18186810
Mostly raised awareness about the NSA, NDAA, DHS spending, and other Executive Orders that have passed at my uni. Passed out fliers, etc. Sent emails to reps and sens about various bills that should or should not be passed. (the Amash bill being the most recent) Might hold a student meeting in one of the auditoriums during fall semester.
>mfw people send me emails wanting to know more
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>agree to protect classified information
>ignore the existent system of dealing with grievances
>disclose the classified you agreed to protect to a foreign national
>be surprised when you get punished

/pol/, am disappoint
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>>18187186
/pol/ is turning into a bunch of liberals shouting muh feelings
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>>18186222 (OP)
Its not that the American population is lazy.
Its that they're dramatically bluepilled. This guy is labeled even by new lolberterians as a traitor.

Amerifats still stand by the "land of the free" as it gets less and less so.
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>>18187186
fuk off kunt .. collateral damage they were shooting fukin unarmed civilians not to mention the testimony of ppl in organizations like iraq vets against the war who exposed the fact there superiors told them to go kick in door indiscriminately and drag people out of there homes in front of there kids .. your obviously a communist cocksuker who wants more government sponsored war crime
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>>18187313
What did they know when they were shooting people who could be threats?

Why didn't he disclose this first to the people he was directed to before skipping straight to giving it to foreign nationals?
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>>18186865
Enjoy unlike america the chinks wont pretend to give a fuck and will just fucking shoot you or poison you
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>>18186222 (OP)
>protests
>changing anything ever
Pick one.

Protests exist for self-gratification, and not much else.
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>>18187368
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>>18187343
>people who could be threats
you mean everybody?
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>>18186222 (OP)
>austria
>protesting culture
>bunch of cunts protesting in favor of shitskins and abject subhumans darkies

top kek m8
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>>18187343
like the 2 reuters news reporters that were killed in the hail fire of indiscriminately shooting ... fukin moron
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>>18187186
When the government is breaking the law the vow of secrecy doesn't mean anything. Killing civilians is more important than his agreement to keep classified information. If this was a Chinese soldier everyone would be calling him a hero and he'd have been given the nobel peace prize by now.
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>>18186222 (OP)
But he is a traitor who disclosed our national security secrets to everyone, including America's enemy.
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>>18187368
I would try to rebuttal you with "Egypt"...

But I already know that the US finances Egypt's military and calls the shots...
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>>18186222 (OP)
Why should people care? He posted about some killing of a bunch of sandniggers that would have beaten this flaming faggot to death had they gotten the chance to do it.
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Why are you so invested in what America does?

> I will personally laugh and then spit on every American I come across
Have fun getting shot, idiot.
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>>18187474
>>18187495

>be near people who are shooting at people who shoot back

I don't remember you proving that they knowingly sought out reuters reporters to shoot at.
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>>18187703
prove that they didnt
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>>18186222 (OP)

manning hasn't been sentenced yet?
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>>18187537

>America's enemy

WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN AT WAR WITH EASTASIA

OCEANIA HAS ALWAYS BEEN OUR ALLY
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>>18187727
logical fallacy shifting the burden of proof
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>>18187703
dickhead they shot indiscriminately were shooting fukin everyone and everything with no intelligence on all these ppl they were shooting ...2 kids 2 reporters and a bunch of civilians were amongst those killed and injured FUKWIT .. not one person was armed or shooting anybody .. some roid head trigger happy cockheads MURDERED these ppl .. not one ofd them were linked to terrorism
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I would care more if he wasn't an admitted fag. I'm not homophobic I'm just Christian and as far as I'm concerned he is not my Brother. The Devil can have him.

I support Snowden, but not this fag.
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>>18187772
>Austrian shitposter pls
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>>18187872
>people die in war because war is hell
>occasionally really bad shit happens and guys have to live with that on their conscience forever

Notify the presses, you have uncovered something amazing!
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Good. Manning's an emotionally-unstable faggot.
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>>18186222 (OP)
trips for truth
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>>18186222 (OP)
The reason Bradley Manning has no support is because the mainstream media has scrubbed the brains of everyone that has to work to death (literally) to make it. You get those that suck at managing their time and others that do manage properly and still have obligations other than making the drive to Fort Meade to protest. So they take little bits the media gives them and build their own conclusions off dishonest journalistic integrity.

Plus, the LGBTPQWERTY movement has literally failed in their job to bitch about something for once. This tranny cuck soldier received no support or backlash by the queers while he was standing at attention, naked, during inspections. He sat inside a jail cell, unable to move or even shift position without some braindead MP going nuts. They let him rot for a purpose, they wanted to set an example. Same with every whistle blower, too. If you drop the weight you're supposed to carry, you get the whip.

I also want to remind everyone that the cable leaks show BP had a blowout similar to that in the Gulf before the Gulf incident ever happened.

www.eurasiareview.com/30042011-bps-secret-deepwater-blowout-oped/
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>>18187935
>putting a magic space wizard above your own freedom
jesus christ , schlomo, just fucking kill yourself already
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>>18188010
Not to mention, there was a reason US traditionally kept the media off the front lines: because they wind up in the wrong place and are accidently killed.

Manning leaked 700,000 cables. The chances that every one of them was a war crime is pretty slim.

He is a traitor and deserves a traitor's sentencing.

On the plus side, he'll have a never ending buffet of prison cock, so...I guess he won.
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>>18187935
>>18188011
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>man swears to protect secret information
>same man divulges secret information
Regardless of morals, he knowingly leaked that information, he knew what he was doing and knew there would be consequences.
Besides, I don't see why he felt the need to leak what he did, if people are oblivious enough to not know innocent people get killed in war, and other nasty things happen, then they do not deserve the benefit if being informed. Those who are blind to the facts do not deserve to be enlightened, for they are already lost and will probably not care, or believe, what anyone with a differing outlook has to say.
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>>18187662
It wasn't just that, he leaked documents proving the US has been spying on foreign diplomats and used their own diplomats to conduct spy operations. There was also the BP spill and a few others. I wish I could find the link that broke everything down, but I lost it awhile back fml.
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>>18188039
>Christian
>shlomo
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>>18188063
>700,000
holy fuck...

also
>he'll have a never ending buffet of prison cock, so...I guess he won
ha
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>>18188096
>the US has been spying on foreign diplomats and used their own diplomats to conduct spy operations


STOP THE PRESSES NATIONS SPY ON ONE ANOTHER
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>>18188103
>doesn't know where christianity comes from
christians are just the same as kikes you dumb yid
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>someone breaks the law
>goes to jail for breaking said law
>a few people protest
>LOL U IS POLICE STATE
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At least porn is still legal in USA. Many European countries have banned porn.
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>>18188175
B-but alex jones said we were in a police state...
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nothing has changed
what a waste
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>>18187313
>Unarmed civilians

Go back and watch the video turd. Those 'civilians' had an RPG and AK-47s. Depending on circumstance, the military didn't really give two shits of the population had their own AK-47s to protect themselves from sectarian violence. The RPG was the red flag and the Reuters employees dropped the ball on situational awareness and turned their camera into a perceived threat.
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> all this amerifat blue pill

Manning is a hero. Snowden is a hero.

Democrat vs Republican is a joke. It makes no difference. America is a police state.

I can't wait until 4chan gets shut down. Seems inevitable.
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>>18188215
not even an atheist, i'm an agnostic faggot. but if you don't have an argument, i can't say i'm terribly surprised
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>Leak information from within the military
>Life in prison

>Leak information from within the White House
>Promotion
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>>18188251
>police state is just around the corner guize...
Fuck off, people have been saying this for decades
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>>18187186
That'd be like Snowden going through the grievance channels or as someone in the media suggested, going to a congressmen or senator - when they're the ones that signed off on the whole thing anyway and knew perfectly well what was going on?
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>>18186222 (OP)
Western society as a whole has been conditioned to be docile as fuck towards the government. This in no way is limited to just the US.

I see ridiculous policies being introduced, blatant fraud from banks, blatant obliteration of countries respective constitutions/laws, deterioration of living standards, an income division that is barely comprehensible anymore and blatant indoctrination of children and NO ONE gives a fuck. You know why? Someone else will sort it out.

So new 'politicians' come along that put forward change of the status quo and improvement, they then get elected and they U-turn on their policies. This is not something that is limited to the US either. People keep falling for this shit however.

I'm telling you now: People will only stand up once their food/water/shelter is taken away or war comes to their doorstep,when the essentials of life are under threat. Everything else is apparently trivial to the broad population.
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>>18188251
>America is a police state.

The fact that you are able to type that without reprisal proves your claim as unsound.

Manning was not a hero. He was leaking information within two weeks of his deployment and was already known within his unit to be an all-around shitty soldier.

You can make the case on Snowden being a "hero" though I wonder why someone SO VERY CONCERNED about his freedoms would try to reach Russian citizenship.

As you can probably surmise, I think Snowden is a traitor just like Manning, but at least Snowden had the balls to not betray the very values he signed to uphold.
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>>18188252
>not even an atheist, i'm an agnostic

Oh, dear. You still think Agnosticism and Atheism are mutually-exclusive. Tsk, tsk.

>agnostic faggot

You certainly are.
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>>18188129
Israel spies on the US more than any other country.
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> mislead Amurrica into invading Iraq for non-existant WMDs
> no prosecution
> leak video of civilians getting killed by Americans

WOW WHAT A TRAITOR HES AIDING THE ENEMY

WHY DIDN'T HE JUST DO HIS JOB WOW
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>>18187662
So what you're saying is its ok to be -just-above savagery and that he should be thankful he just wasnt lynched on the spot, dear God.
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>>18186222 (OP)
>Implying the military, under UCMJ law not civilian law, would give a shit about protesters
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>>18188252
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>>18187935

agreed. hope this faggot dies in military prison.
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>>18188385
I don't doubt it.

But trying to say the US spies on people like it's a giant revelation is just reactionary bullshit.

>>18188398
>WOW WHAT A TRAITOR HES AIDING THE ENEMY

He was found innocent of aiding the enemy.
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justice for tray tray
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>>18188444
>implying he won't die happy of cock overdose
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>>18188383
>>18188438
top kek, keep serving the kikes, niggers
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>>18188373
> The fact that you are able to type that without reprisal proves your claim as unsound.

Dumbass.

Have you heard of the Stasi tactics?

You don't run a police state by overtly intimidating and torturing people. It's small scale.
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So sad
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>>18188321
Well over a decade in fact. It doesn't vindicate the shift towards a police state. I'm pretty sure drones will be the final nail in the coffin, what....2016-2018 sound about right? Plus economic collapse is the can being kicked down the road a little further while WW3 looms above us. A perfect storm.
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>>18188473
>top kek
>kikes
>niggers
Congratulations, you are now the edgiest person in the thread
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why can't i hold all this blue pill?
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>America has become a totalitarian police state
>I blame all Americans for this and will abuse each and every one I come across

That's a odd way of thinking, anon.

Also, we can't all be like your country, which has such a fine historical record of vehemently opposing encroaching tyranny.
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>>18188321
And how is it not true? You are monitored 24/7, you cannot purchase certain firearms for 'police protection', you cannot even talk about bombs or explosives in public, you cannot drive 120 on the highway when nobody is around for miles, you cannot fight a corrupt officer of the law, and you cannot call into question the legitimacy of taxation without being branded a criminal.

Keep living in denial. The noose IS tightening, but some are too distracted to notice.

All I say is remember what it was like to fly pre-9/11...
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>>18188482
>It's small scale

Then I don't care. I'm loyal to my government.

I'll be happy to man the FEMA camps when they start shoveling traitors like yourself inside.
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>>18186222 (OP)
Just made this.
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>>18188238
They really didn't. The Apache crew though they had an RPG, turned it out it was a camera. Then some dude in a van came to try and help anyone who was left alive - so they shot that to fuck as well. You can't even argue this - the first responding troops thought it was fucked up as well, the fact it was covered up says everything you should want to know.
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>>18188503
>predictions on /pol/
>mfw
when 2018 is over and nothing happens, how many more years? because its INEVITABLE
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>>18188551
>so edgy
Cancer.
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>>18188334
It makes you a whole lot more righteous when you blow the lid on the whole thing. You're probably a millenial so you don't understand that doing things properly doesn't usually mean instant gratification.

>I spent x months trying to get my grievance addressed through normal channels, here is the list of people I dealt with who could not give me joy. Because I exhausted all of the legal means of solving this problem I was forced to go beyond the law.

That's a great deal better than
>luk at this data i dug up and know nothing about brb china

Just saying.
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>>18188551
maximum blue pill
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>/pol/ defending some homosexual tranny
>/pol/ decrying the removal of kebab
You people sicken me. People die in war - get over it. Manning is a little drama queen faggot who felt fine putting the screws to his country for his fifteen minutes of fame.

>>18188570
Captain Hindsight to the rescue.
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>>18187539
Those were uprisings, not protests. One is an ad hoc civil war, the other is jizzing your pants in anger.
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>>18188544
>you cannot drive 120 on the highway when nobody is around for miles

OH GOD SOMEONE SAVE ME FROM THIS TOTALITARIAN NIGHTMARE!

IF I WANT TO FLIP MY CAR OVER BECAUSE I'M DRIVING LIKE A RETARD IT'S MY RIGHT AS AN AMERKIN
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>>18188373
why eliminate free speech when you can create the illusion of a free state by simply brainwashing the idiotic majority? You get endless amounts of support, and all who deviate from the norm receive a sharp reprimand, or live as an outcast and hold no status.

You have to open your mind...
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>>18188449
Well of course we have spies and sleepers around the world. Nations usually don't spy on peace keeping diplomatic relations, that was the main issue. When the US uses its own foreign diplomats to negotiate deals, they weren't expected to be smoke screening for larger effort.
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>>18186222 (OP)
He was a fucking asshole that revealed nothing but information that endangered the people that helped the US in Iraq and Afghanistan... Fuck him and anyon who think he's more than a liberal faggot
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>>18188622
>killing first responders
>war crime

Pick two, you moron.
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Why would I protest a traitor going to prison?

If bradley manning was a whistleblower what crime did he reveal? He simply copy pasted as much classified data as he could and sent it to a foriegn citizen. Classic case of a spy if you ask me.
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>>18188644
>I pay personally for the emergency service crews that have to come to the aid of my retarded ass
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the info he leaked is useless anyway that is why noone cares
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>>18188656
Except "opening your mind" means listening to whatever /pol/ says.

I prefer to keep an open mind and actually look at facts, rather than just swallowing bullshit conspiracy theories.

inb4 BLUEPILL SHEEP
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>>18188701
Fact: They knowingly killed a van full of people trying to help.

Fuck off, kike. War crimes matter to everyone else, even if Israel is allowed to cheat.
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>>18188622
>Captain Hindsight to the rescue.
Yes it was hindsight, however the military tried to cover it up and deny it ever happened - which was blatantly the wrong thing to do hindsight or otherwise. It's akin to me shooting you dead for having a gun, finding you don't have a gun, then getting everyone to agree that really, you did have a gun - because who cares really?

It's just wrong, goto war as much as you like but don't fucking lie about the consequences.
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>>18188683
This.

If he sent two or three dozen cables, I'd be inclined to agree with the tinfoil hat "DEY TUK MUH FREEDUMS" crowd.

Nigger leaked SEVEN HUNDRED THOUSAND cables. My ass he was doing it to be a whistleblower. He was a childish fucktard who just wanted to get back at the Army who was so mean to poor widdle bwadwee manning
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>>18188672
War Crimes as a concept is a liberal invention meant to perpetuate the delusion that there is such a thing as a sterile and flawless war - there isn't.
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>>18188743
Well, that's one war crime.

Now tell me about the 699,999 other cables he leaked.
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>>18188760
So? The end justifies the means.
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>>18188672
Good post
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>>18188760
Typical Conservative mindset.

"I have absolutely no proof to back up anything I say, but GODDAMN IT, MY FEELINGS SAY I KNOW IT HAS TO BE TRUE SO IT HAS TO BE TRUE"
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>>18188765
No?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneva_Conventions
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>>18188595
I get your point, but realistically what was going to be the outcome if he went through proper channels?

He'd get fired for being a security risk, nothing would happen because it all got signed off on and he'd be completely fucked without ever achieving anything.

It may just be a result of the society we live in today but you have to think this was the only way it could happen.
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>>18188644
I have Z rated tires, and my car is rated to go at least 150 safely in a straight line. Highways like I5 are straight and flat as fuck, and I see no danger in hauling ass down an open road I have driven many a time.

Try harder, stupid shill. Your fuck tactics aren't working, so you might want to start looking for a new job.
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>>18188544
This.

I remember going up to SouthWest Airlines ticket counter 15 minutes before a flight, paying for my ticket with cash and giving the name Hugh Jass.

I am not making that up. I used to fly with different nicknames all the time.

It was my little game. I would fly as Ben Dover, Phil McCrevice, Mike Hunt, Jack Meoff, etc

Nobody ever asked for ID.

I walked right on to my plane.

It was awesome.

Since 9-11 I have flown twice. Back and forth to my grandmother's Funeral. I vowed never to fly again until things go back the way they were. Which means I will never make my return trip to Hawaii or Australia or Europe.

Oh well. I used to fly almost every weekend to Los Angeles, Las Vegas, Phoenix, San Diego, etc. I loved flying and spending the weekends in different cities.

Now my weekends are basically sitting at home, playing video games, working on the house and washing and waxing my 68 Corvette Convertible.
(Who knows how much longer I will be allowed to drive that. After all it doesn't have a "black box" to tell the government how fast I am going and where I am at all times). Plus it is fun.
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>>18188582
It's uncharted territory, we've never drifted into a shitstorm like this before. Either we turn into a passive state stripped of its sovereignty or we enact another war to silence opposition and revoke Constitutional rights. If you haven't been paying attention to the warning signs coming from every fabric of society, you're not going to understand the gravity of the situation.
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>>18188840
>someone's opinion is different than yours

>FUCK OFF SHILL!!!!!!
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>>18188744
>It's just wrong
>muh feelings
People got killed in a war zone - film at eleven. It makes sense to cover it up. It would probably ruffle some hajji feathers and that'd put Americans at risk.

>>18188835
I don't see how that disproves what I'm saying. The geneva conventions are a feel good, non-binding thing.
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>some faggot I don't even know about does something out of my control, and I'm hated because I didn't stop the dude I don't even know about from something else happening out of my control, nor do I have an outspoken opinion about it, so I'm a bad guy

I have shit to do, I don't have time to protest over some nobody faggot like this

Get a fucking life Austria
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>>18188551
fukin communist kunt
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>>18188946
It's actually spelled "cunt." You're allowed to curse on 4chan.
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>>18188743

>War Crime
>Implying we're in a state of war
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Hi, fellow non-American here. (Canadian xpat)

Just because only 20 protestors were shown does not mean that only 20 people protested.

manning is in jail BECAUSE THE MEDIA DOES NOT DO ITS JOB. You fucking idiot. You're mad at them because you took the media's words at face value. There could be thousands on the street right now and you'd never see it unless somebody decided it would create good content for the 24/7 news cycle.

The Americans who at least travel and try to learn about the world are not the problem. You spitting on them is counterproductive. I actually do go to Vienna sometimes for work and to visit folks I met through work....and if I ever seen something like you've threatened to do, I'll bounce their head off a railing and buy the American a drink. And here is what your police will say to the company I work for (OMV): yes sir no sir.
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>>18186810
>Wrote letters and went to demonstrations
Which amounted to?

Nigger you got asked what you did, but you should have asked what you got done, which is nothing. Asking what someone did is Keynesian, asking the results is Chicago
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>>18188807

What exactly was the end? What crime was so great he needed to expose? Unless i missed something there was only two serious things in everything he released.

1. The helicopter footage (Which was already a known event this just made the pilots look really bad)
2. The cable the document that basically showed we released prisoners to the iraqi government knowing they would be tortured by iraq which is a war crime.

So that was the big secret he had to expose by just dumping as much classified data as he could online?
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>>18188970
Tell that to my stupid brother in law that went to Iraq to defend us from teroras and ended without a leg and deaf
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>>18188928
lol'd
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>>18188701
You think I agree with the majority of edgy underage b& faggots on this website? I look at something and try to see what is wrong with it. I see free speech. It may be as it appears, but it also may be some sort of tool, allowing for the exploitation of people who cannot think past simple appearance.

Can I say things you disagree with? Sometimes I can. Other times you command the resources to censor me. I have dissenting opinion that may endanger your status quo, so you eliminate my views from the discussion as a whole.

That is really my question to you. If I am wrong, what are the repercussions? I look like a jackass, and no one is harmed.

If you are wrong...
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>>18188928
>I have shit to do

Like saving more pictures of cats being cute and masturbating.
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>>18187765

Sentencing happens tomorrow. Best case scenario, he gets a reasonable sentence. Worst case, he'll never be free outside again barring some revolution or next presidential amnesty, but the MIC would never do that, so I guess both scenarios are the same.
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>>18189000
No one gives a fuck about this fag. I live in America and the only thing that matters to me is Americans., the rest of the planet can go fuck itself
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>>18189055
his leaked .docs went right into insurance.aes

lets hope we get the password after the verdict
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What will everyone here do when Obongo shuts down the internet and you can no longer post half-assed remarks on sensationalist bullshit and spongebob reaction images?

Personally, I'll probably kill myself.
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>>18188909
And that doesn't sound hypocritical to you at all?
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I think the American people who doesnt like current America just have learned that protesting and such doesnt work against such an allienated share of the population, they are working and helping each other in their communities, keeping a low profile and trying to talk each other face by face and not in mass-mediafied stalinist obamesque way.
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>>18187935
I don't believe this is very Christian like
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>>18187872

I saw that video. That was a justified shooting if there ever was one.

You watch too many movies if you think soldiers are supposed to play sniper from a gunship miles away.
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>>18188919
>it's ok when innocent civilians die and people lie about it

What kind of fucked up life do you live? I would love to see you quivering on the other side of the barrel you sick fuck.
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>>18189079

I work 80 hours a week, sometimes more, and when I'm not working I masturbate to cute cat pictures.

Welcome to Murrica.
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>>18186222 (OP)
Good job with the whole nazi thing.
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FREE BRADLEY MANNING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He is a HERO , these trigger happy cunts are just roid heads with the imperial red white and blue cock shoved so far up there arse that it tickles there gooch when they get to play XBOX in real life with no regard for innocent civilians , who were all in no way linked to any terrorist organization
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>>18186222 (OP)
Remind me again why I should care about this, Euroshit?

Clearly you're not very informed. I know your country is also not very good at winning wars, but typically when you're in the national defense of said country, and you illegally leak classified documents... said country doesn't appreciate that very much.

Do you even into war? Oh, no. Of course you don't. Do me a favor and look at the before and after WWI pictures of Austria.
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>>18190431
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>18186222 (OP)
Did you just read this at the TT? Or where? It said 1 dozen people are protestating
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MANY of you missed the point of that videos where people die.

It doesnt matter if some sandniggers die, they could be a threat, the shooter hates them...

The real problem is that some random dude, in a helicopter looks at a 7 inch black and white display, says this could be a weapon, and they are free to shoot

The real problem is that war can work and does work this way.
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He took an oath, he disobeyed that oath. How hard is that to understand?
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>>18190953
Breaking that Oath = 100 years in prison
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>>18191053
As is the punishments for the crimeS (with an S) he committed.
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>>18191267
Oh yeah punishment is great

We love americas way of law and order.

Resocialize them? NO, AMERICA FUCK YEAH.

But it is proven that long prison terms dont fear them off or that punishment works at all

I SAID AMERICA FUCK YEAH
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>>18190953
yeah but maybe he wouldn't have wanted to pledge to the government he discovered later
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>>18191053

That's the penalty for espionage dumbass.
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>>18191381
B-but everyone deserves more chances...

Who cares if Tyrone killed 2 families? What are the odds he'd do it a third time?
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>>18191539
Dont punish him with prison

Dont put him there to make his victims feel justis is served

Let him get help by some therapist.

Damn it just look at the fucking snow niggers, their culprits live great lifes
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>>18191631
snow niggers = vikings = norway, sweden, finns
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>>18188031
Holy fuck this post hit the nail on the head. It sums up a lot of stuff regarding Manning's lack of public support. People don't realize the sheer strength of the MSM.
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>>18191396
So? That still doesn't give him a right to break said oath.
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>>18191719
No, the reason was Zimmerman

Media is a market, Sex sells, celebs sell, racism sells this is the main reason
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>>18191824
After Hitler the international court established

And a law that makes it legal to break any law to prevent the state from doing something illegal or something that should be illegal but is legal because the state says so.

Maybe europe failed at telling america to let him go, I dont know enough about law, international law if this is true.
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Manning is legitimately guilty of his crimes. I don't know what you would have the courts do?
>muh feels
>the law

/pol/ is filled with too many hipster teen faggots lately.
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Back to work, my fellow.
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>>18187368
>>18187418
civil rights movement?
fuckin kids.
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>>18192019
HE DIDNT DO NUFFIN
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>>18192019
Completly right.

Laws made by a bad system, laws that should be changed.

Under Hitler it was completly ok to do euthansia, whistleblowing this would have ended in the death penalty but ok, no, its ok, just obey the law, shove those mentally ill people into that room and then put the corpses into that other room.
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>>18192210
>on /pol/
>using Hitler as a "bad" example
lurk moar
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>>18192250
it is a great example for whistleblowing is not bad.

The unjustified killing of many mentally ill people always is a good example
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Title 18, Part I, Chapter 37, Section 794, U.S. Code: "gathering or delivering defense information to aid foreign government" with "intent or reason to believe that it is to be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of a foreign nation"

The court exonerated him on intent, the cables don't quite measure up to the definition if defense information (structure, plans, doctrines, etc.), and he wasn't working for a foreign government/rogue entity. Manning doesn't fit the United States' own legal definition of espionage, yet they've found him guilty on five counts.

The charge of theft of government property is silly, but sad. The government likes to forget that it and its property belong to U.S. citizens.
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>>18192019
You could expect people to accept those arguments if the people who approved and executed the torture programs were put on trial.

I think it's the assymetrical exercise of judicial power that disturbs most people. If the fuckers in power who're covering each others asses were instead being put on trial for the shit they did, you might see people less annoyed manning is about to rot in jail for life.
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>>18192890
The torture programs were legal?

Kuba doesnt have those laws, Kuba doesnt accepted all international laws, like more than half of the human rights.

What crime offense?

Also manning leaked NOTHING about Guantanamo bay that wasnt public
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>>18187186
>get ignored by the existent system of dealing with grievances
Fix'd
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You fags talk about "duty" and bullshit like that, but duty is exactly what built up the police state that you live in.
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Nazi logic
>You is all just fighting for israel
>Kill the dirty sand niggers!
>nigger president killing innocent muzlims!!1!
>This is why we need another Bush
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I'm just going to "this" this because it's hard to find the gems in the river rapids of shit that is /pol/

>>18188031
This
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lel hey guys, this faggot thinks protesting matters
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>>18191835
The media is also dependent on the government not shutting them down and even playing favorites, so they have lots of incentive to pretend certain things aren't happening and blow others up, exponentially increasing their scope
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>>18186222 (OP)
It's you against the state, not you against the liberals
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>>18193501
see
>>18191835

I think you missed that post, you just dont know how media works
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>>18192019
They should drop all charges against him for there illegal mistreatment and incompetence in the governments imprisonment and prosecution of Manning.

1. He was tortured during his imprisonment at Quanticino.

2. Obongo declared him guilty before trial. Ensuring that the trial would be neither fair nor free. His outside interference has ruined the integrity of the trial.

3. By the law the gov must provide a quick an speedy trial within 60 days of imprisonment. Manning didn't get a trial until 3 years later.

4. General sleeze and abuse during trial. Shutting out the media, refusing to provide information to the defense, making last minute changes to bolster the governments argument and not allowing the defense to respond. Ignoring most obvious facts that benefit manning, limiting the defense to what it can say while giving the government free reign to do what wants, the judge almost always agrees with the governments demands, etc.
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>>18193590
The media can always cry Human right infringement and be free again
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>>18188438
That sounds pretty fucking logical though.
Do you leap before you look?
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>>18193694
If you could provide sources for those claims I would be very very happy
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>murrika is done
This is news to none of us. At this point, we're too damn inept to do anything about it. The best we can do without leaders or initiative (both of which have been systematically removed from the general american populace) is wait for everything to fall apart. And that's all we can do.
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>>18188438
Or
>I dont care

>It doesnt affect my life

>I dont care

>Why are you still talking about this, i already stated that I dont care
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>>18193750
Sure. I was originally going to attach them but it would have taken longer. it will take time though give me 5-10mins.
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>>18186222 (OP)
Wait, they redirected that one dudes plane to austria so they could rummage through it over snowden. Nice try Austrian, you are the american government's bitch and you know it.
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>>18193699
Free, but the government and the mainstream media that will always be willing to play ball with them will starve you worse than the Holodomer
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>>18193854
It was just a rumor that Snowden was at vienna, nothing more

>>18193882
This sounds like it would provide content for the next great story, also Human Development Index could say Freedom of Press = 0
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America would rather watch cat videos and post on the internet about it then go outside.
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>>18193953
I always thought we live in the brave new world, why do they still tape us?
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>>18193934
Yeah, rumors that the Bolivian president had snowden with him on his plane, which then was detoured to Vienna to get a full cavity search. Way to kowtow to american facism.
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/pol/ is divided on if it wants to support a mentally ill man and keep bashing on 'murrika or not. You can bash on America without putting this transcock sucker on a podium you know.

This really is a non-issue, it REALLY is that easy this time guys. Where are the Manning shoops?
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>>18193694

Points 2 and 3 are invalid.

A tribunal isn't a trial, and people in the military give up civilian rights to trial in things directly related to military actions.
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>>18193750
Here you go:

1. Torture

http://www.bradleymanning.org/featured/hearing-that-detailed-bradleys-torture-closes

2. Obongo opens his mouth:

http://www.bradleymanning.org/press/salon-com-obama-speaks-on-manning-and-the-rule-of-law

3. Lack of speedy trial

http://www.bradleymanning.org/news/the-government-has-made-an-absolute-mockery-of-bradley-mannings-right-to-a-speedy-trial
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>>18194373

...heh. Those 'sources' ain't worth shit.

Utterly biased.

And again, points 2 and 3 are utterly invalid.
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>>18194232
Sometimes I wonder how that cop feels about those pictures.
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>>18187186
>people still don't understand how whistleblowing works

just stop talking
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>>18194452
He doesnt, because his IQ is probably close to the cop average (100ish), and thus he is probably fucking with a DVR trying to watch football right now. That or caving in some negroes skull.
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>>18194452
It's one of those photos where you just shouldn't have blinked right?
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>>18194320
I am not going to argue semantics. The language that was communicated to the public used the word trial. I just used what the government and media have been calling it.

>>18194446
Look at the articles found on the pages. They go into great detail describing the abuses Manning has gone through. If you refuse to accept the facts then that isnt my problem
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>>18194529

Semantics are everything. You are objectively wrong. It's a military tribunal, end of story. There is no right to speedy trial at that point.
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Shut the fuck up OP traitor/communist-shitbag. Those 20 protesters are just as shitty as Manning, using this trial to write books, news articles and create false drama, migrating from one liberal activist cause to the next trying to make a buck. You disgust me OP.
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>>18194529
I just wanted to tell you that I am still thankful for your sources, I didnt respond yet, I am certainly not that one guy that bashes you for them.
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>>18194650
>yfw criminal trials within military become part of greater judicial system as a result of "muh rapes"
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>>18194505

>He doesnt, because his IQ is probably close to the cop average (100ish)

So everyones average?
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>>18194650
If read Manning's lawyer's motion to dismiss all charges for lack of a speedy trial, you will find the UCMJ is legally obligated to provide a quick and speedy trial. You seem to have this incorrect assumption that the Federal government can do whatever it wants and isnt bound by legal obligations.
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>>18193098
Because torture only happened in guantanamo.
Because we're not handing people over to other countries where they're tortured.
Because war crimes weren't covered up.

Top lel, 10/10.
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>>18194742
No problem man I am glad I could help you out. That website is great because it takes all the myriad of information around the web and media and gives you a coherent place to view it all. They have daily updates over any media coverage or events involving Manning and they have an archive for past information. It is an excellent website for research into Bradley.
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>>18186222 (OP)
>man who leaked top secret files
>given trial
>convicted
>"police state"
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>>18194864
Long before mannings there was a book and a movie about everything that happens in 'bay

It is more a image problem than a legal problem.
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>>18186222 (OP)
>>even here in Austria we have a better protesting-culture

Protesting is a culture?
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>Protesting in favor of a manlet

Call me when they put someone besides a beta bitch on trial
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>>18188919
fucking statists just don't give a damn about mere individuals..
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>>18192180
People died, I don't see anyone willing to die for...what, exactly?

Look at Occupy Wall Street-it was all show and no substance. To this day no one can figure out exactly what they accomplished other than pissing off the NYPD.
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>>18195168
Fuck you shill. Occupy is a successful movement that still has organizations in fear. The police fear the people cunt.
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>>18186222 (OP)
How many days did the trial last?
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>>18195265
0/10 you could have at least attempted some subtlety.
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>>18186222 (OP)
What I hate the most is that nobody will refer to her by her actual gender.
Racist /pol/ is little different I see.
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>>18188175
>>18188211
The laws arent moral and there are too many, they are too restricting. Thats why the US is a polcie state you fools.
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>>18195329
H- heh.
Yeah looking back it's a bit obvious.
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>>18195265

The only organizations that are in fear of occupy are the droves of homeless that are afraid their parks are going to get taken over again.

But then again that would mean free food/drugs/rape for them to grift.
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>>18186222 (OP)
>I will personally laugh and then spit on every American I come across here in good ol yurop, you dont deserve any better.
Nice. As an Englishman I will stand in solidarity with my American cousins. Why? Because they matter. Most Brits have a family member in Canada, USA, Australia or New Zealand. Most Brits couldn't give a flying fuck about Austria. There are only 3 countries in Europe: Germany, France and UK. Now shut up.
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>>18186222 (OP)
>trips

not bad op.

But I bet you wouldn't spit on me if we came across.
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>>18186222 (OP)
This is from the collateral damage video so you SJW can stop bitching about cameras.

Pic related. This is an RPG. This is the reason they blew the entire block off the radar. Their job is to kill people. If you bring out your toys, you play their game. End of story.
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>>18186222 (OP)
America was placed into its coffin on December 23, 1913.

The nails were hammered in on August 2, 1937

Holstered into the hole on October 27, 1970

Buried on October 26, 2001

The coffin dug up and the body raped on January 1, 2012
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>>18188570
Yes, they had an RPG. Watch 3:40 as the man turns his body to reveal the silhouette of an RPG. Plus you can see the RPGs in the video too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rXPrfnU3G0
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>>18195800
correction
>see the AK-47 in the video too
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>>18195692
But you left my quads unchecked? >>18195555
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>>18195555
nice quats but austrians have cool accents
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what did he get, 30 years?
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>>18195555
>There are only 3 countries in Europe: Germany, France and UK. Now shut up.
anon you got wins
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>>18195800
>reuters
>RPGs
>AK-47s
lel
1/10

Honestly all that needed to be done is issue better optics and binoculars to the troops.
Or at least, you know, do something to reduce/prevent the same thing from happening again.
But no, they have to cover shit up.
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>>18186222 (OP)
Maybe we aren't protesting because we don't support him and were glad hes been found guilty, that ever cross your puny foreign mind?

If you aren't American, all you are to me is another fucking target.
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>>18187495
Those two Darwin award winners shouldn't have been hanging out with armed insurgents if they didn't wanna get schwacked.
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>>18196166
Americans in a nutshell.
I'll give you the extra mayo if you ever order burger here, you greasy lump of cholestorol ;)
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>>18187727
>Retard thinks that Apache helicopters have reuters reporter dectector equiptment in order to hunt them down and kill them.
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>>You are just a joke. I will personally laugh and then spit on every American I come across here in good ol yurop, you dont deserve any better.

You fucked up there, Europe. We're gonna FREEDOM the fuck out of you. Prepare for maximum liberty YEEEAAHHH. Fucking pussies. Can't even shoot straight, because you've never had the sweet god given right to motherfucking KILL people who go against our 2nd amendment. Fucking yuros. Don't even speak English. YYYEEEAAAHhHHHH!
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>>18196301
>reuters reporter
I think you mean TERRORIST, fuckhead
honestly if ur in Iraq, wtf are you doing there your either an american or a fucking sandnigger,,,
its no loss even if their bullshit cover of "lol we'r filming"... who do you believe more, professional trained american soldiers or some fucking random arab shit?
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>>18196299
>Implying I would ever go to landlocked sub-Germany for anything other than total conquest.
>Implying proper burgers have mayo
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>>18196532
but you hate everyone
what about your father briton, as well as the fact you are step-brother to canada and australia
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>>18195967
Watch as 3:20 as the Saaed and Namir, with their cameras, walk in front and away from the armed men, then go down the alley. At 3:40 the men behind them swag about with their AKs and RPGs, revealing their silhouettes. Then come back and shitpost about how you know everything about warfare, ROE and the responsibility of the military to protect civilians before themselves.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rXPrfnU3G0

The evidence is right there in your face, but you got some fucked up vision of the world that prevents you from seeing the truth.
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>>18197120
we shouldn't even b there in the 1st place
lol
>>
http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/mike-friends-blog/what-bradley-mannings-sentence-will-tell-us-about-military-justice-system
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>>18188321
>using PAQ-4C
>not using PEQ-15

Stay POG
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>>18190953
he didnt break his oath .. mutherfuker please .. did yu miss the part about against all enemies foreign and DOMESTIC
>>
>Austria
>home of Hitler

Nice credentials, faggot.
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>>18198048
>michaelmoore.com

screenshot or fuck off back to reddit
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>>18186222 (OP)
Good thread op. God Bless Bradley Manning hopefully he won't get such a harsh sentencing.

>>18198048
This link was fucking awesome I had know idea how biased and corrupt the UCMJ is.

>>18201119
Why don't you open the link and read it instead of being some partisan hack who refuses to even look at facts just because they are
from someone you don't like.
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>>18192180
>civil rights movement?
And look how that went, niggers are worse off now then they were fifty years ago. Congratulations, you got water fountains, the front of the bus, and the same schools. Niggers commit even more crime and the black family is broken.
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>>18203860
>partisan hack

That describes that fat stain perfectly though.

I'll read his opinion if you post it here, but I don't want to give him money.
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The only reason America hasn't revolution'd is because it's too fucking huge
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We're with you Bradley
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I just don't have the energy to give a fuck anymore. America is dead and there's nothing anybody can do to save it. A revolution won't work because 80% of the populace is brainwashed in to cock sucking the government and the other 20% are too afraid to die for what they believe in and would rather bitch on the internet. It's better to just let it run its course and let it burn out on its own so we can start the rebuilding process sooner.
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>>18204839
>The only reason America hasn't revolution'd is because the liberal Jews have destroyed any sense of nationalism or pride.
We're so brainwashed in to thinking patriotism is a sin committed only by the most ignorant and racist white trash that everybody who might be taken seriously is afraid to fight for their country.
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>>18205354
What are you talking about? Americans love the idea of being patriotic, it's just that the word has been skewered and butchered by the media.
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>>18205354
>80%
>20%
Sources?
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>>18205521
It's actually like 29%

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/02/poll-armed-revolution_n_3203315.html?ncid=txtlnkushpmg00000037
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>>18194491

It should work exactly like this. Sorry man, but a man stands for what he believes in and takes the punishment. Manning's defenders are just sad.
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>>18205708
A man who stands up for what he believes in somehow deserves to be punished? What the fuck am I reading?
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>>18205770

If he is breaking the law? Yeah. Sorry, but that's the way it goes. Civil disobedience is just that.
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>>18188551
>I'll be happy to man the FEMA camps when they start shoveling traitors like yourself inside.

Me too. They can put a mass grave In my backyard anyday, if they promise to fill it with Paultards.
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>>18205818
That doesn't mean they "deserve" to be punished, but there's no doubt they will be punished. Of course there should be times when a law is overrided, but the government doesn't acknowledge those cases.
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>>18205907

And you do not get to mystically determine when the law is ignored. I know your feelings tell you otherwise, but no.
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>>18205931
never doubt my crystal ball
>>
why is this not sticky?
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>the police state is officially established and nobody cares.

The black budget called.

They want more money.

Oh wait that was in the 70s.

You dumbfuck, we've been in a police state since the fucking 90s.


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