Anonymous
06/17/13(Mon)09:26 No.15674004

Anonymous 06/17/13(Mon)09:26 No.15674004

Replies: >>15674042 >>15674091

>>15673975 (OP)
There's plenty of regulars who post that are commies. They make generals. Fawk off.

Anonymous
06/17/13(Mon)09:28 No.15674042

Anonymous 06/17/13(Mon)09:28 No.15674042

Replies: >>15674105

>>15674004
This. Being proud to be communist cancer is almost as bad as being proud to be Canadian.

Anonymous
06/17/13(Mon)09:30 No.15674091

Anonymous 06/17/13(Mon)09:30 No.15674091

>>15674004
Fine, this can be a communist general too. Not fussed really.

Anonymous
06/17/13(Mon)09:31 No.15674105

Anonymous 06/17/13(Mon)09:31 No.15674105

Replies: >>15674250

>>15674042

What's wrong with being Canadian?

Anonymous
06/17/13(Mon)09:32 No.15674127

Anonymous 06/17/13(Mon)09:32 No.15674127

Replies: >>15674254

On a scale of 1 to Jew, what do you rate?

Anonymous
06/17/13(Mon)09:33 No.15674160

Anonymous 06/17/13(Mon)09:33 No.15674160

Replies: >>15674254

The only difference between the capitalist governments and the communist governments is that the transitional stage in socialism leaves the government with far more power than the west and thus it's impossible to leave. There is always some slimy jew to take state power for his own, and when you have enough power to provide everyone with everything they need, you also have the power to take everything away. And they do.

Anonymous
06/17/13(Mon)09:35 No.15674190

Anonymous 06/17/13(Mon)09:35 No.15674190

Replies: >>15674254

>>15673975 (OP)
Agreed on the LGBT part though.

Anonymous
06/17/13(Mon)09:38 No.15674250

Anonymous 06/17/13(Mon)09:38 No.15674250

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>>15674105
Canada is Sweden 3.0

Also full of annoying entitled faggots.

Anonymous
06/17/13(Mon)09:38 No.15674254

Anonymous 06/17/13(Mon)09:38 No.15674254

>>15674127
>one to Jew
Haha. Um, probably somewhere around 2 - I have distinct Jewish ancestors, but that's far down the line. I'm not Jewish, nor are any of my immediate family.

>>15674160
That's... kind of true, I guess. But being generally for a smaller state, I wouldn't see reason just to take everything from the people anyway. If I provide, that's it.

>>15674190
Cheers

Blop
06/17/13(Mon)09:38 No.15674256

Blop 06/17/13(Mon)09:38 No.15674256

How old are you OP ? Do you still believe in Le Grand Soir ?

Anonymous
06/17/13(Mon)09:43 No.15674353

Anonymous 06/17/13(Mon)09:43 No.15674353

Replies: >>15674452

>Can i make my own money?
>What if i won't do any job and expect you to >pay me?
>Can i be communist and hate niggers?

please respond

Anonymous
06/17/13(Mon)09:46 No.15674415

Anonymous 06/17/13(Mon)09:46 No.15674415

Replies: >>15674455 >>15674495

>>15673975 (OP)
If communism was so great why is it that EVERY communist country had/has armed guards at their borders keeping people in?

Anonymous
06/17/13(Mon)09:47 No.15674452

Anonymous 06/17/13(Mon)09:47 No.15674452

>>15674353

>Can i make my own money?
Yes, you can make your own money

>What if i won't do any job and expect you to >pay me? [sic]
There's much more of an incentive to work under socialism and communism, so it's only you who's really missing out. The land is free, and basic needs are provided for you. Work in capitalism is generally undesirable. You won't be paid in money, but you will have your basic needs catered for.

>Can i be communist and hate niggers?
Sure, why the fuck not. I'm skeptical of some immigrants, and I dislike the concept of multiculturalism, so there's nothing to say you can't "hate niggers".

Anonymous
06/17/13(Mon)09:47 No.15674455

Anonymous 06/17/13(Mon)09:47 No.15674455

>>15674415
people are not ready for communism yet.

Anonymous
06/17/13(Mon)09:49 No.15674495

Anonymous 06/17/13(Mon)09:49 No.15674495

Replies: >>15674641

>>15674415
Communists countries like... China, for example? China shouldn't even be considered communist anymore, as it's essentially the pinnacle of capitalism wrapped in a hammer and sickle.

Not to mention that most "communist" countries today don't adhere very well to what Marx said anyway, hence why it hasn't worked properly yet. Dictatorships always corrupt. Republics are good, but not with complete authoritarianism. A leader is needed, but not a leader who will dictate your everyday life.

Anonymous
06/17/13(Mon)09:50 No.15674532

Anonymous 06/17/13(Mon)09:50 No.15674532

Replies: >>15674650 >>15674706

>implying you are a real communist

During the 30`s Soviet Russia claimed to have fulfilled a certain, very important, program ( I am sure you know what I am talking about since you are a Communist ). Do you think their claim was valid?

What influence did Hegelian dialectics have on marxism, which influence did materialism have on Communism?

Explain how exactly the bourgeoisie was fulfilling a revolutionary role in its ascendancy?

How do Marx and Engels explain both the conditions and the payment of labour?

The petty bourgeoisie = conservative? revolutionary? reactionary?

Anonymous
06/17/13(Mon)09:52 No.15674580

Anonymous 06/17/13(Mon)09:52 No.15674580

Replies: >>15674620 >>15674641

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>>15673975 (OP)
so long as you recognize china isnt communist, idgaf.
cuz its state capitalist m8.

Anonymous
06/17/13(Mon)09:54 No.15674620

Anonymous 06/17/13(Mon)09:54 No.15674620

Replies: >>15674650 >>15674681 >>15674706

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>>15674580
I'm fucking done here. These people are beyond saving.

Anonymous
06/17/13(Mon)09:54 No.15674641

Anonymous 06/17/13(Mon)09:54 No.15674641

Replies: >>15674681

>>15674580
Please see this post for your answer:

>>15674495

Anonymous
06/17/13(Mon)09:55 No.15674650

Anonymous 06/17/13(Mon)09:55 No.15674650

Replies: >>15674771

>>15674620
>op uses this post to leave so he hasn't to adress
>>15674532
>my sides

Anonymous
06/17/13(Mon)09:55 No.15674681

Anonymous 06/17/13(Mon)09:55 No.15674681

>>15674620
saving from what communism?
im not too keen on following a system that is nothing but the embodiment of failure.
>>15674641
its simply concurs with the fact it isnt communist.

Anonymous
06/17/13(Mon)09:56 No.15674706

Anonymous 06/17/13(Mon)09:56 No.15674706

Replies: >>15674817

>>15674620
Don't worry about them, some of us aren't idiot.

>>15674532
I'd like to see this post answered.

The petty bourgeoisie is an interesting one, they're literally slaves to economic compulsion, and yet they seem to like it. They've become conservative, and a bordering on fascism. Scary times, my friends.

Anonymous
06/17/13(Mon)09:57 No.15674724

Anonymous 06/17/13(Mon)09:57 No.15674724

Replies: >>15674736

JPMorgan Chase calls for Communist Police States across Europe

http://wsws.org/en/articles/2013/06/17/morg-j17.html

In a document released at the end of May, the American banking and investment giant JP Morgan Chase calls for the overturning of the bourgeois democratic constitutions established in a series of European countries after the Second World War and the installation of authoritarian communist regimes.

The 16-page document was produced by the Europe Economic Research group of JP Morgan and titled “The Euro Area Adjustment—About Half-Way There.” The document begins by noting that the crisis in the euro zone has two dimensions.

First, the paper argues, financial measures are necessary to ensure that major investment houses such as JP Morgan can continue to reap huge profits from their speculative activities in Europe. Second, the authors maintain, it is necessary to impose “political reforms” aimed at suppressing opposition to the massively unpopular austerity measures being carried out at the behest of the banks.

Towards the end of the document, the authors explain what they mean by “political reform.” They write: “In the early days of the crisis it was thought that these national legacy problems were largely economic,” but “it has become apparent that there are deep-seated political problems in the periphery, which, in our view, need to change if EMU (the European Monetary Union) is to function in the long run.”

>2013
>Stefan Steinberg
>still thinking that communism isn't a Jewish banking scheme to enslave non-Jews
>still not realizing that "bourgeois" is code word for "goyim with wealth" and that it doesn't apply to Jews
>still not realizing that Wall Street Jews financed the original Russian Communist revolution, and reaped huge profits on all of the wealth seized from Russians--it got redistributed all right... right into the claws of scheming Jews

What do you have to say for yourself?

Anonymous
06/17/13(Mon)09:57 No.15674736

Anonymous 06/17/13(Mon)09:57 No.15674736

Replies: >>15674832 >>15674875

>>15674724
>calling it communism and not fascism
>2013

Anonymous
06/17/13(Mon)09:59 No.15674771

Anonymous 06/17/13(Mon)09:59 No.15674771

>>15674650
That wasn't me, you tit. I'm OP.

Anonymous
06/17/13(Mon)10:00 No.15674817

Anonymous 06/17/13(Mon)10:00 No.15674817

Replies: >>15675037

>>15674706
Sad truth is I can't answer half of those question save for the petty bourgeoisie one.

Yes, the bourgeois are pretty reactionary. Conservatism is what allows private businesses and corporations to thrive. If it's specifically Thatcherism, it's what also crushes unionism, therefore allowing corporations to expand.
So, yes, they are reactionary.

Anonymous
06/17/13(Mon)10:01 No.15674832

Anonymous 06/17/13(Mon)10:01 No.15674832

>>15674736
You're a fool. That's how the Jews have always sold it. They call it communism, and dupe the goyim into supporting their own enslavement. You've already fallen for it. In reality, the Jew becomes the new hidden aristocratic class who controls the Communist Party.

Anonymous
06/17/13(Mon)10:02 No.15674875

Anonymous 06/17/13(Mon)10:02 No.15674875

Replies: >>15674901 >>15675299

>>15674736
Why would banks call for communist revolution? Oh, that's right... communism was always just a scam to benefit Jews. There's no such thing as real communism, it's a pipe dream that can never be achieved.

Anonymous
06/17/13(Mon)10:03 No.15674901

Anonymous 06/17/13(Mon)10:03 No.15674901

Replies: >>15675014 >>15675037

>>15674875
That's what happens when orders come from above and not below. DEMOCRATIC COMMUNISM NOW!

Anonymous
06/17/13(Mon)10:08 No.15675014

Anonymous 06/17/13(Mon)10:08 No.15675014

Replies: >>15675124

>>15674901
There can't be democratic communism, because the Jew always infiltrates the process and becomes the primary wielder of power.

Any political reform must be anti-Jew, and such a thing is not possible within the egalitarian confines of communist slavery. Jews created communism, and you're still supporting it thinking that the lies they concocted are real. You're believing in a religion. You're a member of a cult. You were indoctrinated by Jewish propaganda. When will you wake up?

"Some call it Communism, I call it Judaism."

- Rabbi Stephen Samuel Wise, Ph.D and founder of the American Jewish Committee, World Zionist Congress, and Anti-Defamation League

Anonymous
06/17/13(Mon)10:09 No.15675037

Anonymous 06/17/13(Mon)10:09 No.15675037

Replies: >>15675106 >>15675175

>>15674817
I don't blame you, since I am not here to attack you.
But, if you want to keep on calling yourself a communist, you really should invest some time in analyzing and honestly understanding all of Marx and Engels work, including their major influences.

>>15674901
And how do you imagine the dictate of the proletariat will work in democratic communism?
Especially if talking about the west where most people consider themselves to be part of the middle class?

Anonymous
06/17/13(Mon)10:11 No.15675106

Anonymous 06/17/13(Mon)10:11 No.15675106

Replies: >>15675361

>>15675037
Surely democratic communism can work in a dictatorship of the proletariat? The people elect their leader. Not a dictator, but a leader.

Also, I am working on it. I'm reading "The Communist Manifesto" again and am about to purchase "Das Kapital Volume I". But before I start on that I want to finish "The soul of man under socialism".

Anonymous
06/17/13(Mon)10:12 No.15675124

Anonymous 06/17/13(Mon)10:12 No.15675124

Replies: >>15675164 >>15675208

>>15675014
It's all slavery, the question is, what kind of slavery do I want done in my name? Is it the kind that houses all people, that gives them what they need? Or is it the kind that would sell its own morality down the river for a quick buck?

Just because jews were/are in powerful positions in the development of communism as an ideology, and the implication of communism through time, does not mean that communism is a lost cause, otherwise we'd have all killed ourselves by now.

Capitalism is owned by the jews too, in case you haven't noticed. The only thing that stops these so called 'jews' is putting them in gas chambers, and even then there's a high likelihood you will only foster more dissent that the insidious jew will use eternally.

Basically if you believe jews are the cause of all societies woes, your society is fucked forever.

Anonymous
06/17/13(Mon)10:13 No.15675158

Anonymous 06/17/13(Mon)10:13 No.15675158

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Marxist Leninist Reporting in.

Not a fan of multiculturalism either or feminism for that matter.

Anonymous
06/17/13(Mon)10:13 No.15675164

Anonymous 06/17/13(Mon)10:13 No.15675164

Replies: >>15675211

>>15675124
I want the kind where it's my own people in charge of our destiny, not some Jew bent on world domination.

At least my own people give a damn about our futures. The Jew does not.

That is why I am a National Socialist.

Anonymous
06/17/13(Mon)10:14 No.15675175

Anonymous 06/17/13(Mon)10:14 No.15675175

>>15675037
With the technology we have called 'voting'. If citizens were simply administrators of society as their daily job, and the proletariat were no longer required to create burger, we would truly have an information society. Our glorious leader is the people.

Anonymous
06/17/13(Mon)10:15 No.15675204

Anonymous 06/17/13(Mon)10:15 No.15675204

Is your family Jewish?

Anonymous
06/17/13(Mon)10:15 No.15675208

Anonymous 06/17/13(Mon)10:15 No.15675208

>>15675124
You're delusional, you're falling directly into the banksters plans. They want to enslave you into communism, and you'll probably be out in the streets supporting them when it happens.

Communism is just another word for Capitalistic Slave Oligarchy.

Anonymous
06/17/13(Mon)10:15 No.15675211

Anonymous 06/17/13(Mon)10:15 No.15675211

Replies: >>15675324

>>15675164
But in Marx's communism man would be able to make any life choice, and change between spheres freely, receive education and training upon arrival without competition for a position.

Jews are bent on world domination either way, and the only person in charge of your destiny is said jew.

Anonymous
06/17/13(Mon)10:16 No.15675242

Anonymous 06/17/13(Mon)10:16 No.15675242

Replies: >>15675266

>>15673975 (OP)

Whenever I read communist literature, I'm bombarded with examples of "exploitative" economic relationships. The factory owner exploits the worker, the first world exploits the third, the patriarch of the family exploits his children, etc.

Except, I never see an example of a non-exploitative economic relationship, and I can't seem to come up with one that would be "Fair" under Marxist principles. In fact, because it's so pervasive, and unsubstantiated, I keep coming at the suspicion that Marx is using a sort of backwards logic; Guy A is richer than guy B that he's working with, so he MUST have exploited him in order to succeed.


Can you come up with a "fair" economic relationship? Under Marxist theory, is it possible to accrue profit by doing so?

Anonymous
06/17/13(Mon)10:17 No.15675266

Anonymous 06/17/13(Mon)10:17 No.15675266

>>15675242
You weren't suppose to accrue profit. Profit is pointless in Marxist thought. Profit is but the obsession with the cock.

Marxist Leninist
06/17/13(Mon)10:18 No.15675299

Marxist Leninist 06/17/13(Mon)10:18 No.15675299

Replies: >>15675400

>>15674875
How the fuck would the bank profit from a communist revolution? All their wealth would be gone and we'd implement planned resource based economy. No more money.

Anonymous
06/17/13(Mon)10:19 No.15675324

Anonymous 06/17/13(Mon)10:19 No.15675324

Replies: >>15675356

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>>15675211
Marx's communism can never be achieved. Marx was a scheming Jew, who wrote one thing, and then wrote another behind people's backs to his fellow Jews. Marx wanted to kill all non-Jews.

You've fallen for the Orwellian double-speak.

"The Jewish people as a whole will be its own messiah. It will attain world dominion by the dissolution of other races, by the abolition of frontiers, the annihilation of monarchy, and by the establishment of a world republic in which the Jews will everywhere exercise the privilege of citizenship. In this new world order the children of Israel will furnish all the leaders without encountering opposition. The governments of the different peoples forming the world republic will fall without difficulty into the hands of the Jews. It will then be possible for the Jewish rulers to abolish private property, and everywhere to make use of the resources of the state. Thus will the promise of the Talmud be fulfilled, in which it is said that when the messianic time is come, the Jews will have all the property of the whole world in their hands."

1879 letter from Baruch Levy to Karl Marx, republished in 'La Revue de Paris', p.574, June 1, 1928

Anonymous
06/17/13(Mon)10:21 No.15675356

Anonymous 06/17/13(Mon)10:21 No.15675356

Replies: >>15675422

>>15675324
What's the title of this letter?

Marxist Leninist
06/17/13(Mon)10:21 No.15675361

Marxist Leninist 06/17/13(Mon)10:21 No.15675361

Replies: >>15675440

>>15675106
I'm communist too

Are you not for direct democracy? No state, and the people rule like "true" Marxism? Direct democracy is possible now with the help of computers

Anonymous
06/17/13(Mon)10:21 No.15675369

Anonymous 06/17/13(Mon)10:21 No.15675369

How old are you?

If under the age of 30, what did your parents do for a living?

If over the age of 30, what did you do for a living?

Do you have a complete roadmap from where we are now to communism? If so, outline it.

What would you do if I started bartering widgets to my neighbours?

What would you do if the barter system grew to encompass an entire city?

What would you do if another currency began to emerge?

What do I do if I don't want to be a communist?

What will you do if the majority of people vote against communism?

Anonymous
06/17/13(Mon)10:23 No.15675400

Anonymous 06/17/13(Mon)10:23 No.15675400

>>15675299
By having the banks in another country. All of the Russian gold got funneled out to banks in Western Europe and later America.

>Wall Street Funded the Bolshevik Revolution - Professor Antony Sutton
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaFklTLNy8c

Anonymous
06/17/13(Mon)10:23 No.15675422

Anonymous 06/17/13(Mon)10:23 No.15675422

>>15675356
There is no title, it's a fucking personal letter.

Anonymous
06/17/13(Mon)10:24 No.15675440

Anonymous 06/17/13(Mon)10:24 No.15675440

>>15675361
But communism is not possible with democracy because people do not want communism.