Fire Lord !AZULaFMcQ.
05/28/13(Tue)22:09 No.14835396

Fire Lord !AZULaFMcQ. 05/28/13(Tue)22:09 No.14835396

Replies: >>14835966

There is no chance in hell he will be convicted of second degree murder.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:15 No.14835620

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:15 No.14835620

>>14835330 (OP)

>http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/05/28/whats-next-george-zimmerman


>dose white guilt comments
>trayvon din do nuffin!

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:17 No.14835691

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:17 No.14835691

Replies: >>14835727 >>14835786 >>14835891 >>14836032 >>14836693 >>14836822

>past is inadmissible

Why?

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:18 No.14835727

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:18 No.14835727

Replies: >>14835796

>>14835691
So it really looks like he din do nufin

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:19 No.14835760

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:19 No.14835760

Poor white cop behind george, he knows it's bullshit.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:19 No.14835767

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:19 No.14835767

>black people doin sumfin

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:19 No.14835775

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:19 No.14835775

Replies: >>14835806 >>14835810 >>14835825 >>14835895 >>14835899 >>14835977 >>14837427

>>14835330 (OP)
Not familiar with murkan laws

What is this "degree" murder? I heard it in movies and series but never understood what it mean

what is first, second third, fourth etc degree in murder??

Fire Lord !AZULaFMcQ.
05/28/13(Tue)22:19 No.14835786

Fire Lord !AZULaFMcQ. 05/28/13(Tue)22:19 No.14835786

>>14835691
Because it makes the state's case empty and meaningless.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:20 No.14835796

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:20 No.14835796

Replies: >>14838140

>>14835727
>the THC of marijuana in his system before he died is also inadmissable

how the fuck is that NOT a factor in the present crime scene when he died? its one thing to leave out his past but the shit that happened when he died all in the name to just blatantly paint that he was a good kid? what bullshit

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:20 No.14835806

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:20 No.14835806

Replies: >>14836020

>>14835775
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_(United_States_law)#Degrees_of_murder_in_the_United_States

sage
sage 05/28/13(Tue)22:20 No.14835807

sage sage 05/28/13(Tue)22:20 No.14835807

Replies: >>14835898 >>14835923 >>14836181 >>14836244

>>14835330 (OP)
Its not admissable because he was never convicted of any of the allegations. For fucks sake op the kid lived in the goddamn neighborhood.

So the kid wasn't innocent. That doesn't change the fact that Zimmerman was the adult and should of kept control of the situation. He failed.

And yes hes gonna eat 2nd degree murder charges. All the jury is going to see is a fucking minor shot dead by a power tripping cop wannabe not a block from where he lived. Throw the 911 call in and that jury will deliberate for 15 minutes before the guilty verdict springs forth.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:20 No.14835810

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:20 No.14835810

>>14835775
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+is+first%2C+second+third%2C+fourth+etc+degree+in+murder

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:20 No.14835825

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:20 No.14835825

>>14835775
1st degree is the most severe
3rd is the least severe

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:21 No.14835849

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:21 No.14835849

Replies: >>14835960 >>14836203

this is not unusual

The question before the court is not whether Trayvon or Zimmermann is a good person, it's whether this crime occurred.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:21 No.14835871

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:21 No.14835871

Replies: >>14838857

>>14835330 (OP)
Zimmerman's lawyers failed him. They should have pushed to get the trial moved to out of state because all that cunt judge was doing was hang an innocent man out to dry to appease the blacks.
They shouldn't stay quiet about this, I'd move to a mistrial now. This is bullshit.

✖PipeBomb✖ !GRG1IWogTk
05/28/13(Tue)22:21 No.14835875

✖PipeBomb✖ !GRG1IWogTk 05/28/13(Tue)22:21 No.14835875

Replies: >>14836591

mistrial.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:22 No.14835891

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:22 No.14835891

>>14835691
because MAH BYEBEE MAH BYEBEE HE DEEN DOO MUFFIN!!! HE WAS GUN BE A DACTAH DAS RAYCIST!

Whore of a judge is afraid of the imminent chimp outs and losing her job

Fire Lord !AZULaFMcQ.
05/28/13(Tue)22:22 No.14835895

Fire Lord !AZULaFMcQ. 05/28/13(Tue)22:22 No.14835895

Replies: >>14836020

>>14835775
First degree murder or murder 1 requires planning and malice aforethought.

Second degree murder requires reckless disregrad for human life.

All lesser offenses are either manslaughter with its own degreees and negligent homicide

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:22 No.14835898

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:22 No.14835898

Replies: >>14838820

>>14835807
>kid tackles grown man, begins beating him
>zimmerman should have been in control

how the fuck are you going to keep control over a guy who was suspicious of a potential criminal in the town for a kid who was high on pot

how the fuck would zimmerman even keep control of that situation? how? criminals commit crime

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:22 No.14835899

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:22 No.14835899

Replies: >>14835963

>>14835775
4th degree murder is throwing away burgers

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:22 No.14835919

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:22 No.14835919

Replies: >>14835972

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>>14835330 (OP)
>Florida judge rules Trayvon Martin thuggery is inadmissible

false, she ruled that they needed to go through more legal hurdles to admit the evidence in court

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:22 No.14835923

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:22 No.14835923

Replies: >>14837626

>>14835807
So drugs in your body are not proof that you did drugs and photographic evidence of you possessing an illegal weapon doesn't prove you possessed an illegal weapon?

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:23 No.14835942

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:23 No.14835942

Replies: >>14836091 >>14836112 >>14837534

If you needed any more evidence that people are sheep look at this case.

Two camps:
1. blindly defends Trayvon
2. blindly defends Zimmermann

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:23 No.14835960

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:23 No.14835960

Replies: >>14835999 >>14837642

>>14835849
A history of thugging it up would help to demonstrate reasonable doubt to the story that Martin was approached rather than did the approaching.

who confronted who is the key to a conviction.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:23 No.14835962

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:23 No.14835962

>Found guilty
>Accused of

Pick one idiot

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:23 No.14835963

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:23 No.14835963

>>14835899
NOOO! NOD DA BURGARZ!

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:23 No.14835965

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:23 No.14835965

I thought they couldn't use it in the opening

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:23 No.14835966

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:23 No.14835966

>>14835396
>Fire Lo

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:24 No.14835972

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:24 No.14835972

>>14835919
>she

It's over

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:24 No.14835977

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:24 No.14835977

Replies: >>14837689

>>14835775
1st degree murder is planned and premeditated.

2nd degree is an ape losing his mind and attacking.

I'm not entirely sure how third degree works. It's very murky and feels arbitrary.

Essentially the system is designed to punish people who commit murders for rational purposes more severely, while releasing uncontrollable apes earlier.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:24 No.14835999

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:24 No.14835999

Replies: >>14836211

>>14835960
yeah let me read some rules of evidence, I'll be back

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:25 No.14836020

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:25 No.14836020

Replies: >>14836116

>>14835806
>>14835895
ok thanks but then wouldnt he be voluntary manslaugher?
I dont understand your laws, in my country whenever you kill a criminal, whoever you are, you get a medal and appear a hero by the population in newspapers

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:25 No.14836032

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:25 No.14836032

Replies: >>14836146 >>14836269

>>14835691
Zimmerman didn't know about his past, when he ran after Treyvon. I do agree Zimmerman is innocent however.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:27 No.14836091

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:27 No.14836091

>>14835942
All the evidence is on zims side though
Stop being a faggot

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:27 No.14836094

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:27 No.14836094

Replies: >>14836131 >>14836136 >>14836282 >>14836397

What exactly is this "dark past" the kid had?

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:28 No.14836112

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:28 No.14836112

>>14835942
>sheep
Woah don't tell me you are that edgy in school too!

It's not blindly defending Z-man, we all know he killed the nig, but out of whatever he did, he didn't do any wrong to society

Fire Lord !AZULaFMcQ.
05/28/13(Tue)22:28 No.14836116

Fire Lord !AZULaFMcQ. 05/28/13(Tue)22:28 No.14836116

Replies: >>14836165 >>14836179 >>14836365

>>14836020
Who, Z-Man? Fuck no he didn't do anything wrong.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:28 No.14836131

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:28 No.14836131

Replies: >>14836424

>>14836094
Drug dealer, jewelry thief, was in possession of a illegal gun, violent in nature, was a nigger basically.

And phone records were fun to read, and show he was in a bad/angry mood that day he died.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:28 No.14836136

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:28 No.14836136

>>14836094
>"slangin" drugs through social media
>breaking and entering
>robbing
>fighting
>probably other things

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:29 No.14836139

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:29 No.14836139

Replies: >>14837197 >>14837253

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>convicting innocent man because too chickenshit to deal with angry niggers

JUSTICE

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:29 No.14836146

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:29 No.14836146

Replies: >>14836192

>>14836032
It is very possible that Trevon was flashing gang signs and talking about dealing weed to his girlfriend

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:29 No.14836165

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:29 No.14836165

>>14836116
>he din do nuffin
>Fire Lo

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:29 No.14836179

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:29 No.14836179

Replies: >>14836199

>>14836116
Relax, we know he is a champion of justice, but he DID kill a nig. As useful as it is, that is still a murder in the eyes of the law, and I'm very sad this mockery of a trial has passed and the retarded lawyers didn't go for a mistrail

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:29 No.14836181

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:29 No.14836181

>>14835807

>its not admissable because he was never convicted of any of the allegations.
ok, with you this in an objectively correct sense
>For fucks sake op the kid lived in the goddamn neighborhood.
aaaannnd you lost me their.

he lived in a goddamn neighbor hood. just not that one.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:30 No.14836187

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:30 No.14836187

what the fuck is fire lo?

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:30 No.14836192

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:30 No.14836192

>>14836146
coke/huron, wasn't it?

Fire Lord !AZULaFMcQ.
05/28/13(Tue)22:30 No.14836199

Fire Lord !AZULaFMcQ. 05/28/13(Tue)22:30 No.14836199

Replies: >>14836563 >>14836740

>>14836179
>As useful as it is, that is still a murder in the eyes of the law
No it isn't. Self-defense isn't murder.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:30 No.14836200

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:30 No.14836200

Relax.
If it's determined that Martin attacked Zimmerman and had Zimmerman on the ground and was beating him, which the police photos suggest from the injuries to the back of Zimmerman's head, then it woill be a case of self-defense.
Hopefully the fact that Zimmerman couldn't let Martin overpower him and take his gun is brought out in trial.

If this had been a cop that Martin attacked there wouldn't be this show trial.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:30 No.14836203

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:30 No.14836203

>>14835849
>The question before the court is not whether Trayvon or Zimmermann is a good person

except it is, if Trayvon violently assaulted Zimmerman then ZimZim was justified in defending himself

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:30 No.14836210

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:30 No.14836210

Replies: >>14836280

>>14835330 (OP)

HOW THE FUCK DID HE GET SO SKINNY?!

Photoshop or a waaay earlier pic?

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:30 No.14836211

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:30 No.14836211

Replies: >>14836681

>>14835999
So here's the rule.
90.404 Character evidence; when admissible.--
(1) CHARACTER EVIDENCE GENERALLY.--Evidence of (Trayvon)'s is inadmissible to prove action in conformity with it on a particular occasion (I.E. that Trayvon was a thug who might attack George Zimmermann), except:
.....
(b) Character of victim.--
1. Except as provided in s. 794.022, evidence of a pertinent trait of character of the victim of the crime offered by an accused, or by the prosecution to rebut the trait.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:31 No.14836244

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:31 No.14836244

>>14835807
He did not live there. And he got shot for beating a person who defended himself.

Are you a cuckold?

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:32 No.14836269

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:32 No.14836269

Replies: >>14836344 >>14836361

>>14836032
Past behavior points to present behavior, especially if its a pattern, and behaving like a chimp would be top of that list

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:32 No.14836280

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:32 No.14836280

Replies: >>14836354

>>14836210
He became a shut in, had depression from all this white racist nigger slayer shit, people hate him and want him dead, and the pick was him from the past mugshot years before.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:32 No.14836282

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:32 No.14836282

Replies: >>14836361

>>14836094
He was
>drug dealer
>drug user
>drugged the moment he confronted Z-man
>thief
>weapon with no license
>gold grill for teeth with no explanation as how he obtained the money
>history of violence
>his twitter and shit revealed he was talking about 'where to get drugs'

And even with all this, the judge says all this shit doesnt matter, and that probably that day, the nigger just wanted to hug and kiss semen

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:34 No.14836344

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:34 No.14836344

Replies: >>14836400

>>14836269

It's not really past behavior when that very day he was talking about buying an illegal gun.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:34 No.14836354

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:34 No.14836354

>>14836280
>people hate him and want him dead

This is true in a literal sense, the NBPP has explicitly said that they ARE going to find him, and that they ARE going to kill him, either with a nigger in the streets or a nigger in jail.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:34 No.14836361

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:34 No.14836361

Replies: >>14836446 >>14836639 >>14836703 >>14836776 >>14837513

>>14836282
>>14836269
Let me put it like this.

You are a criminal. You have robbed 10 banks and molested 20 children.

One day you are walking across a crosswalk and you get stopped by a cop and given a ticket.

You go to court to challenge it.

Should the state be allowed to bring in evidence of past crimes to show that you committed the offense of jaywalking?

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:34 No.14836365

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:34 No.14836365

>>14836116
Love you fire lo

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:35 No.14836397

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:35 No.14836397

Replies: >>14836460

>>14836094
Hes a wannabee gansta thug lyfe nigger who was high off his mind when he attacked zimmerman.

Fire Lord !AZULaFMcQ.
05/28/13(Tue)22:35 No.14836400

Fire Lord !AZULaFMcQ. 05/28/13(Tue)22:35 No.14836400

>>14836344
Even if he were convicted the instant appeal would turn it over so fucking fast based on how much ridiculous unconstitutional shit the state has done he would never serve a day and then he would sue Florida for 200 million dollars and win

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:36 No.14836419

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:36 No.14836419

Replies: >>14836783

This is a sticky situation and I'm glad I'm not on the jury.

Trayvon Martin was a thug and it's absolutely disgusting that Zimmerman had to endure so much slander and libel in the media, which pretty much did everything in its power to make him look like a racist who went gunning for Martin

On the other hand, I don't know if you can really claim self defense when you start following a kid around a neighborhood with a gun, I'm sure Martin himself felt threatened by Zimmerman and that's why he attacked. Zimmerman should have just stayed home and let the cops handle it.

Of course you won't get any impartial discussion about this topic on /pol/ because Martin's a nigger and because of it he's obviously the bad guy here

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:36 No.14836424

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:36 No.14836424

>>14836131
>"dont get one planted in your chest"

Just like in the books.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:36 No.14836430

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:36 No.14836430

>>14835330 (OP)
Why don't we just protest?

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:36 No.14836442

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:36 No.14836442

Replies: >>14836542

Its a shame the knowledge present in these threads are so limited. Basically its a bunch of people discussing their views instead of the law

As it stand, its high on impossible to discern who has the stronger case

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:36 No.14836446

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:36 No.14836446

Replies: >>14836496 >>14836553

>>14836361


Yes

It gives insight to the persons actions by the history of said actions. Making a more logical conclusion.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:37 No.14836460

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:37 No.14836460

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>>14836397
This

If the nigger baboon ape monkey did the same to a cop it wouldve ended the same

>muh lil traybaboon din du nuffins!!!!!!

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:38 No.14836496

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:38 No.14836496

>>14836446
Opinion has nothing to do with law. Thread badly needs someone who took basic courses in law.

Fire Lord !AZULaFMcQ.
05/28/13(Tue)22:39 No.14836542

Fire Lord !AZULaFMcQ. 05/28/13(Tue)22:39 No.14836542

Replies: >>14836586

>>14836442
No it isn't fucking retard. The dead nigger chimped out and attacked someone and got killed for it; the law worked perfectly that's why the Sanford police never arrested him

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:40 No.14836553

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:40 No.14836553

>>14836446
No, because it doesn't prove you did the crime.

The court should not be judging your character. It should be judging whether the crime was committed.

Character can come into play when you go to sentencing.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:40 No.14836563

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:40 No.14836563

Replies: >>14836583

>>14836199
Really? That's is fucking weird then why that whore of a judge is trailing him as such? Doesn't make any sense. Anyway most probably that whore just bended due to nigger pushing
as usual, the side that shouts the most wins, and this time the nigs chimped out as usual because RAYCIST

Anonymous
Daily reminder 05/28/13(Tue)22:40 No.14836564

Daily reminder Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:40 No.14836564

Replies: >>14836623 >>14836659 >>14836708 >>14836743 >>14836810

Niggers noggin.
>Zimmerman is an ebil white waciss!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xO-k4GqbATg

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:40 No.14836575

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:40 No.14836575

Replies: >>14836596 >>14836649 >>14836791

Serious question.

>If the law was applied with absolutely no mercy, and the penalties it inflicted were uniformly extremely severe, would America be a better or worse place?

You would still have the same due process and procedures and etc, just its a lot more strict. Strict and intense enough that the word 'draconian' applies as a good descriptor.

>its actually against the law for a judge to be lenient in ANY WAY, for ANY CRIME

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:40 No.14836580

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:40 No.14836580

Replies: >>14836662

They're not even pretending to give Zim a fair trial.

TPTB sending a message. Open season on whites.

Fire Lord !AZULaFMcQ.
05/28/13(Tue)22:41 No.14836583

Fire Lord !AZULaFMcQ. 05/28/13(Tue)22:41 No.14836583

Replies: >>14836740

>>14836563
The state is prosecuting him wrongfully and in violation of its own laws.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:41 No.14836586

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:41 No.14836586

Replies: >>14836603

>>14836542
> you are an idiot who doesn't know he is an idiot.

That's all I have to say to you

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:41 No.14836591

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:41 No.14836591

>>14835875
The one time I agree with pipe

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:41 No.14836596

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:41 No.14836596

Replies: >>14836630

>>14836575
The law is already draconian enough, dumb shit.

We have more people in prison than any other country, by far.

Fire Lord !AZULaFMcQ.
05/28/13(Tue)22:41 No.14836603

Fire Lord !AZULaFMcQ. 05/28/13(Tue)22:41 No.14836603

>>14836586
the police know when to arrest people for murder 2 you god damned simpleton

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:42 No.14836623

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:42 No.14836623

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>>14836564
One of the first verses is I din do nuffin wrong

top lel

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:42 No.14836627

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:42 No.14836627

Replies: >>14836687 >>14837729

>media and courts constantly talking about zimmermans prior domestic disturbance case
>wont even let his defense mention that lil treytrey was a banger even though its relevant

They silenced his defense for a reason. This is appeasment. I'm not too familiar with how the courts work, but does he have any other chance? If i were him i'd be appealing to the supreme court to get bullshit practices like this overturned nationally.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:42 No.14836630

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:42 No.14836630

Replies: >>14836680 >>14836777

>>14836596
>We have more people in prison than any other country, by far.
That isn't evidence of draconianism, that's just evidence that a lot of people are scum.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:42 No.14836639

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:42 No.14836639

Replies: >>14836914

>>14836361

How is jaywalking related to armed robbery and molesting children?

I would think the armed robbery and child molestation history WOULD be relevant in a violent crime case or a sexual assault case.

Like violent behavior/speech and the presence of drugs in the bloodstream would be relevant in a lethal self-defense case.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:43 No.14836649

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:43 No.14836649

>>14836575
Even worse than it already is

Lobbyists would move to make everything a crime to get more people in prison and to make more money off slave labor and government kickbacks for private prisons

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:43 No.14836659

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:43 No.14836659

>>14836564
Wow, I paused my Yes for this?
Fuck you.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:43 No.14836662

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:43 No.14836662

Replies: >>14837694

>>14836580
I've said it before and I'll say it again. I won't disarm till anti-white terrorists like the NBPP or the Nation of Islam disarm, and when niggers try to nig on me, they're getting blasted. I don't care whether its legal or not. I'm not going to die because a nigger decided he was going to kill me simply for being white.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:43 No.14836673

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:43 No.14836673

Replies: >>14836879 >>14838237

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Gentlemen of /pol/, I present to you the illustrious Judge Debra S. Nelson.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:43 No.14836680

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:43 No.14836680

>>14836630
Or there is something wrong when we have more people per capita imprisoned then the evil communists of best korea and china combined.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:43 No.14836681

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:43 No.14836681

Replies: >>14836939

>>14836211
Link please

Fire Lord !AZULaFMcQ.
05/28/13(Tue)22:43 No.14836687

Fire Lord !AZULaFMcQ. 05/28/13(Tue)22:43 No.14836687

Replies: >>14836720

>>14836627
He hasn't even gone to trial yet he can't appeal anything they've just been violating his right to a speedy trial and jerking him off to delay the Race War for as long as possible.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:44 No.14836693

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:44 No.14836693

Replies: >>14836722 >>14836780 >>14836913 >>14838692

>>14835691
It could be unreasonably prejudicial. Courts are hesitant to let in things like past crimes or criminal activity, especially if it doesn't have to do with the nature of the case. I don't know exactly what all they wanted to bring in, but the pictures of him smoking weed and stuff don't really belong there. The idea is that you risk the jury basing their verdict for the present case on past crimes that don't relate to the incident. Courts often have very specific rules for how character evidence is introduced where you're trying to show that the person has a certain characteristic or trait which would make it more likely that they were at fault in the case. Again, they don't want juries to make up their minds based on accusations and evidence that someone is a bad person in general and that they think they need to get them off the streets, they just what them to determine the facts of exactly what happened. The idea is that you should be tried on the facts of the incident, not your past. So that's the idea at least. And they certainly do allow character evidence like this in certain cases, but it a tough standard to meet.

You have to think about it outside of this case, about how it would affect trials in general on a large scale. We want to keep trials limited to the facts of the case, and try to restrict other evidence like character evidence to fewer cases. There's a lot of complicated evidence rules and mumbojumbo that come into play so I don't want to get into that, but just know that certain types of evidence like this are difficult to get admitted because there is a high standard that they often can't meet.

And don't get me wrong, I think Zimmerman acted in self-defense and should be acquitted. But a lot of this stuff doesn't really speak to whether Zimmerman shot Trayvon in self-defense,

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:44 No.14836703

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:44 No.14836703

Replies: >>14836818

>>14836361
Yes you sad fuck, that is common sense.
Even more if you have not paid for your past felonies.

>Sir, this man is a child molester
>Oh God! Was he sentenced and jailed and done his time?
>No sir, he molested kids, got away with it and no justice has been served and he is wanted in 9 states.
>Oh ok then, nevermind, let's move on to the parking ticket...

Do you think that nigger wasn't a drug dealer at the time he got shot?

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:44 No.14836708

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:44 No.14836708

>>14836564
I din do nuffin'! the song

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:45 No.14836720

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:45 No.14836720

Replies: >>14836749

>>14836687
go away weaboo

Fire Lord !AZULaFMcQ.
05/28/13(Tue)22:45 No.14836722

Fire Lord !AZULaFMcQ. 05/28/13(Tue)22:45 No.14836722

Replies: >>14838083

>>14836693
His past as a thief is entirely relevant to this case.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:45 No.14836740

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:45 No.14836740

>>14836199
>>14836583
>Fire Lo

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:45 No.14836743

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:45 No.14836743

>>14836564
race war confirmed

gotta get outta DC and back to Iowa right away

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:46 No.14836749

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:46 No.14836749

Replies: >>14836786 >>14836794

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>>14836720
Nigger internet defense force is here.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:46 No.14836765

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:46 No.14836765

Judge Debra S. Nelson is carrying Trayvon's baby.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:46 No.14836776

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:46 No.14836776

>>14836361
I honesty can't tell if you're really fucking stupid or a pretty good troll.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:46 No.14836777

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:46 No.14836777

>>14836630
>scum
rrrriiight

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:46 No.14836780

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:46 No.14836780

>>14836693
Good comment

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:46 No.14836783

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:46 No.14836783

>>14836419
>following a kid around a neighborhood
Only that never happened. Zimmerman saw Trayboon nigging around in people's yards. He called 911, and the operator asked him where the nigger was going. Zimmerman got out of his car to get a better look, but turned around and started walking back when he couldn't find Trayboon. That's when Lil Tray-Tray ran up behind Zimmerman and started beating his head into the pavement, so Zimmerman was forced to defend himself.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:47 No.14836786

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:47 No.14836786

Replies: >>14836962

>>14836749
>not liking Fire Lo
>Nigger IDF
choose one (1)

tripfags are all shitty

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:47 No.14836788

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:47 No.14836788

killing a nig isn't a crime anyway

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:47 No.14836791

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:47 No.14836791

Replies: >>14836975

>>14836575

One could argue the courts and criminal justice system in the US is draconian already

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:47 No.14836794

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:47 No.14836794

>>14836749
>implying i didnt just call him a wannabe thug
>implying all trips arnt niggers

I bet you are black and have a trip code too.

Go away Trip IDF

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:47 No.14836810

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:47 No.14836810

Replies: >>14836844

>>14836564
this reminds of how they depicted Homer when he touched that babysitter in the ass by accident (thing that he totally didn't do)

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:47 No.14836818

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:47 No.14836818

Replies: >>14836910

>>14836703
A truly compelling argument

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:48 No.14836822

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:48 No.14836822

Replies: >>14837015

>>14835691
Race Shield Law.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:48 No.14836832

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:48 No.14836832

Replies: >>14836895 >>14836945 >>14837107

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#YOLO

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:48 No.14836844

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:48 No.14836844

>>14836810
The whole video and song is just what the niggers think happened. They are self inserting into trayboon

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:49 No.14836861

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:49 No.14836861

Replies: >>14836925 >>14837044

So is /pol/ gonna have a whiny white chimpout?

I'm ready for this. I'm so ready/

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:49 No.14836879

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:49 No.14836879

Replies: >>14838114

>>14836673
UUUUUUGH OH MY GOD she fucking looks like a retarded MY OBESITY IS BEAUTIFUL feminazi sea cow

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:49 No.14836883

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:49 No.14836883

Replies: >>14836911 >>14836927 >>14837048 >>14837861

The cops told that dumb fuck to back off so he gets no sympathy from me. You stalk and shoot a kid you go to fucking jail.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:50 No.14836895

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:50 No.14836895

Replies: >>14837262

>>14836832
how the fuck is that completely inadmissible
>acting like a nigga
>his nigga friend even tells him
>>BOY U GON GIT 1 PLANTED IN YO CHES'

>gets 1 planted in his chest

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:50 No.14836910

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:50 No.14836910

>>14836818
Thank you, glad to see I could show some light in /pol/ at least.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:50 No.14836911

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:50 No.14836911

>>14836883
Police dispatchers are not cops
>themoreyouknow.jpg

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:50 No.14836913

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:50 No.14836913

>>14836693
This guy sounds like he knows what he is taking about

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:50 No.14836914

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:50 No.14836914

>>14836639
Well I'm not going into the nuances of evidence law, but that's the gist of the reasoning behind preventing the prosecution from bringing up every bad thing you did in your past.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:51 No.14836925

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:51 No.14836925

>>14836861
when a latino guy gets jailed for killing a nigger?

Ohoho you funny guy

Fire Lord !AZULaFMcQ.
05/28/13(Tue)22:51 No.14836927

Fire Lord !AZULaFMcQ. 05/28/13(Tue)22:51 No.14836927

Replies: >>14837048

>>14836883
He was walking back to his vehicle and his neighborhood watch job when he was attacked retard

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:51 No.14836939

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:51 No.14836939

Replies: >>14837002

>>14836681
google florida rules of evidence character evidence

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:51 No.14836945

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:51 No.14836945

>>14836832
>lies.com

the nigs even have their own 4chan or something?

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:51 No.14836962

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:51 No.14836962

Replies: >>14837035

>>14836786
You leave Space Elevator alone, motherfucker.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:52 No.14836975

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:52 No.14836975

Replies: >>14837067 >>14837072

>>14836791
Why? I don't see people getting flogged for minor crimes, decapitated for major ones, hung in public, or sentenced to up to 31 years of hard labor anymore. I think the problem is that the justice system has gone soft. We need relentless judges who will slam the gavel of swift, harsh justice down on any offender who's proven guilty, no matter what their color is or what the circumstances are. If I were a judge my track record would be one of intense, draconian punishment, tempered with unwavering fairness and insistent need for proof of guilt. I mean, isn't that what a judge is supposed to be like anyhow?

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:52 No.14837002

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:52 No.14837002

>>14836939
I was being lazy and was hoping you would do the work for me

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:53 No.14837015

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:53 No.14837015

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>>14836822

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:53 No.14837028

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:53 No.14837028

Replies: >>14837270 >>14837363

ITT: impotent rage

Bunch of armchair cowards.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:53 No.14837035

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:53 No.14837035

>>14836962
>Space Elevator
>a trip

choose (1)

learn the difference between "tripfag" and "namefag"
it may save your life one day

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:54 No.14837044

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:54 No.14837044

Replies: >>14837071

>>14836861
>So is /pol/ gonna have a whiny white chimpout?
Nah. Just continue to blame jews/minorities/feminists etc. for everything without actually taking action.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:54 No.14837048

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:54 No.14837048

>>14836883
**dispatcher told that dumb fuck to back off

>>14836927
>Fire Lo

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:54 No.14837050

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:54 No.14837050

The sooner this goes to court and zim goes free. The better.
Time to for the not guilty while the thought og nigger boons death is still fresh in their mind.

Chimp out of the century

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:54 No.14837065

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:54 No.14837065

Replies: >>14837116

I have a theory. If George Zimmerman had a more Hispanic sounding name, like George Rodriguez this never would have blown up like it did. Agree? Disagree?

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:54 No.14837067

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:54 No.14837067

>>14836975
I bet that sounded really good as you were typing that out but its not practical in the real world

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:54 No.14837071

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:54 No.14837071

Replies: >>14837118

>>14837044
I don't agree. If niggers target me I plan to kill them. No mercy. I urge everyone who gets targeted to respond in this same way.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:55 No.14837072

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:55 No.14837072

Replies: >>14837148

>>14836975
people who have no familiarity with the justice system think this.

They post things on Facebook like "gee, I wish I was in prison, I'd get 3 meals a day!"

In reality the penalties and length of sentences have never been longer.

Anyone who thinks the criminal justice system is too lenient has never been in a courtroom.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:55 No.14837107

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:55 No.14837107

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>>14836832
>mfw I've had the same hoodie for years
But I don't want to be a nigger.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:55 No.14837116

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:55 No.14837116

>>14837065
Probably. Hispanics and Blacks kill each other all the time and it never gets blown up. Just another media circus.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:56 No.14837118

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:56 No.14837118

Replies: >>14837185 >>14837196

>>14837071
You're expecting a "race war" to happen soon?

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:56 No.14837148

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:56 No.14837148

Replies: >>14837356

>>14837072
I've been in a courtroom and I've been in a jail cell. Jail is far to lenient and the justice system doesn't reform criminals, it makes them worse. This has to do with, I think, the -nature- of the penalties. Instead of sitting up in a jail cell for a long time, why not just cane them a dozen times?

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:58 No.14837185

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:58 No.14837185

>>14837118
I live close enough to niggers that there is a real danger that mad ones who are looking to victimize whites might show up in my area, yes. I don't know about a civil war organized around race, no.

Fire Lord !AZULaFMcQ.
05/28/13(Tue)22:58 No.14837196

Fire Lord !AZULaFMcQ. 05/28/13(Tue)22:58 No.14837196

Replies: >>14837284

>>14837118
The race war WILL HAPPEN when Zimmerman is released; which will probably happen without a trial

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:58 No.14837197

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:58 No.14837197

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>>14836139
>POST OF THE WEEK CANDIDATE

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:58 No.14837199

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:58 No.14837199

Replies: >>14838098

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not guilty or mistrial but zimmerman is going to be fucking raped with civil suits. no way martin's family is stopping after receiving a seven figure settlement from the hoa.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)22:58 No.14837203

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)22:58 No.14837203

Replies: >>14837286

Everybody,

I reckon niggers will be in for some surprises this chimpout. A lot of white folks are fed and looking for a reason to shoot.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:00 No.14837251

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:00 No.14837251

I wonder if it will occur to anyone to take Trayboons family?

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:00 No.14837253

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:00 No.14837253

Replies: >>14837303

>>14836139
Evidence he was innocent?

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:00 No.14837262

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:00 No.14837262

>>14836895
judges dont understand ebonics

sage
sage 05/28/13(Tue)23:00 No.14837270

sage sage 05/28/13(Tue)23:00 No.14837270

Replies: >>14837363

>>14837028
/thread

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:01 No.14837284

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:01 No.14837284

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>>14837196
Like Sweden?
But with guns

Nigs will burn down their own neighborhoods

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:01 No.14837286

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:01 No.14837286

>>14837203
Depends on where the chimp out takes place. Right now nigger population is too low to do shit against everyone else. Last time they had a chimpout they ended up razing their own ghetto neighborhoods and ended up having the most dead. Plus it would remind everyone of the animals niggers are. It would be a win for society.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:01 No.14837303

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:01 No.14837303

Replies: >>14837348

>>14837253
>kill a nigger in self-defence
>guilty until proven innocent
Thanks Obama.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:02 No.14837348

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:02 No.14837348

>>14837303
but he looks like my son if i had one!

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:02 No.14837356

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:02 No.14837356

Replies: >>14837453

>>14837148
well I actually agree with you somewhat on that.

I think it's inhumane to keep people in prison for punishment. It should only be used for recidivists who are a clear danger to society.

Unfortunately we have "hidden" our punishments. We've divided up responsibility.

It's like Ned Stark: "he who passes the judgment should swing the sword". We have delegated authority, so no one person is responsible for the difficult act of judging and punishing.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:03 No.14837363

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:03 No.14837363

>>14837028
>>14837270
Butthurt SRS samefag detected.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:03 No.14837388

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:03 No.14837388

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>>14837284
>Nigs will burn down their own neighborhoods

Mfw

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:04 No.14837427

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:04 No.14837427

>>14835775

Differs by state, they call it different things. But the most common is the degree system.

1st degree = malice aforethought, intentional killing. Basically, you planned to kill the victim beforehand (even an instant is enough - it's the malice and intent, not the time, that matters). Think poisoning, or reaching for a knife and stabbing someone thirty times.

"felony murder" is usually up there with Murder 1. It's when you're committing a dangerous felony like arson or robbery and someone dies due to your actions, even if it was unintentional or unknown to you (you accidentally leave the bank manager in the vault and he suffocates, for example, or your getaway driver hits a pedestrian). It's usually about as bad as Murder 1.

2nd degree = no malice aforethought. most likely reckless disregard for human life - life you're driving at 150 down a residential street, see a pedestrian, and can't be arsed to even try avoiding him in that split second. This is called "depraved mind" murder.

Voluntary manslaughter is killing in a sudden heat of passion with adequate provocation. This is the odd one out - basically a special case for when you catch your wife with another man and kill them both. If you meet the narrow factors for it, it's a lesser crime than Murder 1 or 2 despite the intent to kill.

Involuntary manslaughter is kind of a misnomer; it's basically for negligently killing someone. Imagine cleaning your gun and you negligently discharge it, killing your neighbor. "negligence" doesn't mean "any accident ever," it means accidents where you weren't taking proper care but still did not intend to disregard the risks to human life - there is no "depraved mind" here.

The biggest trouble is that prosecutors often make plea agreements for "lesser included" offenses to avoid trial. If a guy plans for months to brutally torture a chick to death, the prosecution may choose to only charge him with any lesser offense if he pleads guilty.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:05 No.14837453

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:05 No.14837453

Replies: >>14837875

>>14837356
Do you think making criminals do backbreaking labor for up to 15 hours a day every day for the duration of their sentences would help reform them? I studied the siberia model Tsarist russia used for a while, I'm slightly familiar with the idea of intense labor being used to reform criminals.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:07 No.14837513

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:07 No.14837513

>>14836361
That is a poor analogy because they aren't talking about the history of the accused.

The suppressed evidence would be used to suggest that Martin was a violent individual and apt to attacking without provocation.

In your analogy it would be like disallowing evidence showing the officer was prone to writing frivolous or false citations.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:08 No.14837534

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:08 No.14837534

Replies: >>14837600

>>14835942
I am so confused there is only two grounds. He was defending himself or he committed murder. What is the edgy one?

Fire Lord !AZULaFMcQ.
05/28/13(Tue)23:09 No.14837573

Fire Lord !AZULaFMcQ. 05/28/13(Tue)23:09 No.14837573

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>>14837284
When shit goes down in Florida; and it is going to go down hard; every armed white person is going to fucking blast anything that looks threatening. There are literal uniformed Nazis who have pledged to run security operations around the white neighborhoods of central Florida and they're armed with rifles and know how to use them. This is going to be the stupidest thing blacks will have done in history and it's going to end with a whole lot of them dead. It will be the greatest thing that has happened during my lifetime.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:09 No.14837600

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:09 No.14837600

>>14837534
If by "edgy" you mean likely to annoy everyone outside of /pol/, probably that he defended himself. If you mean to troll everyone INside /pol/, probably that he murdered. Edgy is one of those weird contextual words that can mean many different things all at the same time.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:10 No.14837605

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:10 No.14837605

>>14837573
>Fire Lo
>the weeb

shut up and go back the kitchen you avatarfagging weeb

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:10 No.14837625

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:10 No.14837625

Replies: >>14837687 >>14837691 >>14837731 >>14837741 >>14837832

>Mexcrement shoots a nignog in the back
>/pol/ somehow defends this guy to the death.
He is a fucking spic who shot a kid, in the back at that. Do you really care if he gets put in prison?

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:10 No.14837626

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:10 No.14837626

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>>14835923

Yes and no. If Travyon were on trial, those would likely be proof unless the jury convicted (likely he would have pled guilty, if tried as an adult).

But because Zimmerman is on trial, not Trayvon, they have to be careful what they introduce to the jury as far as relevance to the charge goes. It is irrelevant to the specific charge of murder if Traytray is the nignog to end all nignogs; the question is, "What evidence is there that Trayvon assaulted Zimmeran this *one* *specific* time?" That means the defense and prosecution have to argue in pretrial over what exactly is relevant to that charge; the jury only gets to see relevant evidence, otherwise there is a mistrial and Zimmerman goes free (double jeopardy is barred the moment the jury is put up).

So the argument is not, "Did Trayvon ever possess an illegal weapon," it's "Did Trayvon possess an illegal weapon at the time of the incident?" The jury may be prejudiced by knowledge of Trayvon's niggatry, so our justice system means any information about Trayvon's character must be barred unless directly relevant to that specific incident. Evidence that shows a "general tendency" to act a certain way is probably going to be barred.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:11 No.14837642

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:11 No.14837642

Replies: >>14837885 >>14838006 >>14838156

>>14835960
It doesn't work that way. Zimmerman TOLD 911 that he wanted to approach the young man. They told him not to, then told him to stay on the line (go figure, to see to it that he didn't approach Trayvon.) He didn't stay on the line. He then admitted to approaching Trayvon. He claimed he had good reason to approach him, or that Trayvon approached him first and then backed off, THEN Zimmerman approached Trayvon, but all of that is beside the point in a court of law. Zimmerman followed Trayvon, and assaulted him. You don't have to win the fight in order to be accused of assaulting someone. Muggers and car jackers have gotten seriously fucked up, and no injury was inflicted on the "victim", and the mugger/jacker was still the one to get in trouble. Because they were the one TRYING to do wrong.

Zimmerman assaulted Trayvon because he looked too black and he was swaggering too loudly, if you can call probably poking him in the chest with your pinkie an assault (which under circumstances like that, in the dead of night confronting a stranger on the street while hurling accusations and puffing out your chest, is just the sort of assault that would be accepted as assault, but then likely dropped if that's where it ended...still assault though), then he probably got punched once, tackled, and had his bongo drum played. I don't know, some people think he inflicted the wounds himself, but I doubt it, he probably was taken to the ground. That wouldn't matter though as he started it. Then he shot the kid dead.

He made a "judgement call" and exercised "initiative" and "common sense" and "authority"...except he had no authority. At all. No authority. There are people who get to walk up to strangers who look suspicious and make demands and throw accusations and detain them using force for questioning...they're called cops. Zimmerman was not a cop, he was just playing pretend, and playing pretend is not a Get Out Of Jail Free card.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:11 No.14837650

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:11 No.14837650

>>14835330 (OP)
>Eye witness accounts that Trayvon attacked him
>Guilty.

I bet the media did this.

Fire Lord !AZULaFMcQ.
05/28/13(Tue)23:12 No.14837687

Fire Lord !AZULaFMcQ. 05/28/13(Tue)23:12 No.14837687

>>14837625
>in the back
0/10 faggot go bother reddit with this shit

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:12 No.14837689

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:12 No.14837689

>>14835977
3rd is involuntary manslaughter. Like hitting a nigger with your car while he was chasing his basketball.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:12 No.14837691

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:12 No.14837691

Replies: >>14837719

>>14837625
My main objection to the whole business is that its a travesty of justice because the only reason he's even on trial is because blacks said they would riot and kill everyone if he wasn't found guilty. Under normal circumstances I wouldn't care about this, but if blacks think they can start sending white people to jail by threatening judges and rioting, its going to be a big problem for white people.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:12 No.14837694

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:12 No.14837694

>>14836662
>I won't disarm till
>I will never disarm

FIFY

Fire Lord !AZULaFMcQ.
05/28/13(Tue)23:13 No.14837719

Fire Lord !AZULaFMcQ. 05/28/13(Tue)23:13 No.14837719

Replies: >>14837810

>>14837691
Until white people wise up and just fucking exterminate them once and for all.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:13 No.14837722

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:13 No.14837722

>>14835330 (OP)

Zimmerman will still walk. Past thuggery is not going to matter - the judge made the right call on that one. The blood, bruises, mud, and the condition of Trayvon's body all corroborate Zimmerman's story, and that's more than enough.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:13 No.14837729

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:13 No.14837729

>>14836627
His best shot would be trial by judge. Anyone, guilty or innocent, has to be fucking stupid to trust their fate to 12 people too retarded to get out of jury duty

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:13 No.14837731

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:13 No.14837731

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>>14837625
>>14837625
>Zimmerman shot a nignog in the back
Where do you retards get your news?

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:14 No.14837740

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:14 No.14837740

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>>14837573
This is the greatest thing Ive ever heard.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:14 No.14837741

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:14 No.14837741

>>14837625
>in the back

Just fucking leave if you don't know even the barest amount of facts

Fire Lord !AZULaFMcQ.
05/28/13(Tue)23:14 No.14837753

Fire Lord !AZULaFMcQ. 05/28/13(Tue)23:14 No.14837753

Replies: >>14837810

Washington D.C. might be so destabilized by the race war someone might even be able to get to Obama and his niglets. Truly that would be a great day.

TheHiddenHand
05/28/13(Tue)23:15 No.14837779

TheHiddenHand 05/28/13(Tue)23:15 No.14837779

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yfw martial law yfw operation garden plot

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:15 No.14837782

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:15 No.14837782

>>14837731
Obviously Msnbc and the Daily Show.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:15 No.14837786

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:15 No.14837786

>>14837284
Awesome doorbell in that pic, everyone should have one lol.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:16 No.14837810

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:16 No.14837810

Replies: >>14837907

>>14837719
>>14837753
>Fire Lo
>in charge of being this edgy

you really are an annoying little attention whore, aren't you

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:16 No.14837828

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:16 No.14837828

>>14837284
Residential reactive armor.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:16 No.14837830

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:16 No.14837830

>>14837573
Better than the McDonald's McRib sandwich?

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:16 No.14837832

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:16 No.14837832

>>14837625
White racists are often tolerant of Meximixes. It goes back to the uneasy alliance between White Power gangs in prison and Mexican gangs, in an alliance against black gangs. You'd know why most /pol/ tards see no problem with this equation if you gave this any thought.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:17 No.14837846

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:17 No.14837846

Trayvon is 6'4 Zimmerman is 5'8
Just wanted to put that out there

duke
05/28/13(Tue)23:17 No.14837861

duke 05/28/13(Tue)23:17 No.14837861

>>14836883
Nigger detected.

Captha: bigger hfetyp

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:18 No.14837875

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:18 No.14837875

Replies: >>14837985

>>14837453
Not that Anon, but absolutely. Making prisoners more productive not only gives them a purpose in the prison aside from being punished but also makes them useful to the community in which they'd serve. And work builds character.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:18 No.14837877

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:18 No.14837877

>>14835330 (OP)
>that $50 suit
top lel

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:18 No.14837885

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:18 No.14837885

Replies: >>14838309

>>14837642

Except the instructions of 911 operators are not binding legal orders, and it is perfectly legal to walk up to someone and ask them what they are doing.

You are correct that even the slightest touch is assault by law, though. However, if all he did was poke Trayvon in the chest with his finger, Trayvon would not be legally justified in responding with enough force to risk real injury. After that assault, Zimmerman would still be justified in defending himself, depending on when the court thinks the situation escalated.

You are not legally justified in starting a fight, and you are not legally excused from injuring/killing someone in a fight you provoked. The question would be whether there is adequate provocation in the court's eyes.

Fire Lord !AZULaFMcQ.
05/28/13(Tue)23:19 No.14837907

Fire Lord !AZULaFMcQ. 05/28/13(Tue)23:19 No.14837907

Replies: >>14837962 >>14837970 >>14838205

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>>14837810
It's something I would enjoy I'm not trying to garner any more attention than I already attract. Seeing Obama's daughters killed would really please me.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:19 No.14837909

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:19 No.14837909

>>14835330 (OP)

At passing glance. this pic looks like Obama.

Carbon
05/28/13(Tue)23:19 No.14837947

Carbon 05/28/13(Tue)23:19 No.14837947

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>>14835330 (OP)
>My fucking sides have collapsed into a
singularity and formed a new universe

>mfw /pol/ is going to get butthurt about it after talking shit about it for months

I can't breathe...someone....my fucking sides

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:20 No.14837960

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:20 No.14837960

>>14835330 (OP)
1 thug dead, one crazy person in jail

everyone wins

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:20 No.14837962

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:20 No.14837962

Replies: >>14838068

>>14837907
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nqcL0mjMjw

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:20 No.14837968

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:20 No.14837968

With everything coming out lately, it wouldn't surprise me one bit if she's acting on some higher up order. Mass scale riots would look very bad for Obama and unite people against enrichment.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:20 No.14837970

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:20 No.14837970

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>>14837907
my cousin is an SS agent; they sort of get trained to make sure that thing doesn't happen
>just saiyan
>inb4 "my dad works at nintendo"

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:20 No.14837985

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:20 No.14837985

Replies: >>14838025

>>14837875
In the siberian model you were dumped with a platoon of soldiers who's job it was to watch you. You had an axe, a few days worth of food, and were in a wilderness. The prisoners did ALL the labor of building and maintaining the towns, manually doing literally everything themselves. They were shot if they didn't comply with the warden's instructions in every minor detail. You were given an axe and told to build your own house. If you didn't know how, or refused to work, you died. Its that simple. The siberian model raised serious objections from liberals at the time it was used, but with some modifications, it could still easily work.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:21 No.14838000

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:21 No.14838000

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>>14835330 (OP)

>George Zimmerman is found guilty with second-degree murder for killing Trayvon Martin


You know the prosecution actually has to, you know, present evidence and shit, right?

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:21 No.14838004

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:21 No.14838004

Replies: >>14838178 >>14838182

Cool I will remember to not kill the person trying to kill me. Because I will only live to be charged with murder of some degree. Awesome. So if your not supposed to defend yourself the police will save you right?

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:21 No.14838006

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:21 No.14838006

Replies: >>14838073 >>14838397

>>14837642
>There are people who get to walk up to strangers who look suspicious and make demands and throw accusations and detain them using force for questioning...they're called cops

How is it being a statist pussy that can only rely on pigs to save you. I see a unknown nig nog in my gated community, then it is reasonable to ask him if he lives here etc. without getting punched in the face. You need to get off the black cock.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:22 No.14838025

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:22 No.14838025

Replies: >>14838225

>>14837985
See? It builds. Character. And teaches instruction. It could be great.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:22 No.14838050

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:22 No.14838050

Replies: >>14838062

So do the nogs still think he's white?

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:23 No.14838062

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:23 No.14838062

>>14838050
Sigh, yes.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:23 No.14838068

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:23 No.14838068

>>14837962
top lel
11/10

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:23 No.14838073

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:23 No.14838073

Replies: >>14838361

>>14838006
DAS RAYCISS!

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:23 No.14838083

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:23 No.14838083

Replies: >>14838318

>>14836722
I'm just trying to help people understand the way courts approach character evidence and past events like convictions, criminal behavior, and generally distasteful past behavior. It's a framework that all cases have to work under, and it certainly isn't perfect, and there are parts that really don't make a lot of sense to me or that I disagree with, but it's how the law generally works (states often have their own wrinkles, but most generally follow the federal rules of evidence).

A lot of people would agree with you about the relevance. Again, I'm not entirely aware of what the evidence exactly entailed, and there's probably at least something in there that is relevant, particularly violent acts and tendencies (but a lot of time character evidence like a certain tendency requires in-court testimony).

Maybe parts of it are relevant, but that's not the only question here. If the prejudicial effect would outweigh the need and usefulness of the evidence, then it can be thrown out, even if it is relevant to the case. What if, for example, somebody is on trial for securities fraud, and the state wants to introduce evidence that he cheated on his wife? It might establish his trait of being deceptive and dishonest, but it might make the jury (let's pretend the jury is mostly women just for fun) hate his guts and want to convict him. That kind of gut reaction is the kind of thing the rules want to avoid.

All I'm saying is that this is how the court approaches it. The more you know.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:23 No.14838092

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:23 No.14838092

Replies: >>14838168

You guys really do take politics seriously? Fucking christ.

I've been here for a year and I'm still surprised by what I read in threads like these.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:24 No.14838098

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:24 No.14838098

>>14837199
That picture should be inadmissible too. It could emotionally lead the jury. Justice is about facts.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:24 No.14838114

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:24 No.14838114

>>14836879
If anything, being ugly helps the person in a position of high power. People will take you more seriously rather than a dumb bimbo blond with a boob job.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:25 No.14838133

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:25 No.14838133

It's because the judge believes he's white.

That's the reason they are doing this to him.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:25 No.14838140

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:25 No.14838140

>>14835796
>marijuana

If anything the marijuana actually goes against the whole violence bullshit. It is widely documented that Marijuana makes people more passive.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:25 No.14838150

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:25 No.14838150

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>tfw George Zimmerman was a free man, but only when the media, up to and including the President used character assassination to get him charged, and fucking over his right to a fair trial with the media attention
>tfw the Florida Attorney General and possibly the judge and prosecutor will be playing to appease social justice warriors, get media attention, all to potentially further their career rather than being interested in true justice
>tfw prosecutor likely omitting facts and evidence favorable to Zimmerman's defense so she can get a win
>tfw real possibility of government secretly intervening for for a guilty verdict to avoid a riot, believing one innocent man in jail is better than potential property damage to a business owner
>tfw people still consider Zimmerman white
>tfw the media got away with lightening Zimmerman's photos to make him look whiter, while editing, prettying up Trayvon, and selective photo broadcasting
>tfw liberals idolize this pot-smoking, drug dealing, criminal hoodlum

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:25 No.14838156

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:25 No.14838156

Replies: >>14838448

>>14837642
>He didn't stay on the line
Have you even seen the call transcript?

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:26 No.14838168

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:26 No.14838168

Replies: >>14838226

>>14838092
>I've been here for a year
you should have been here during /new/s

>lurk moar faggot

Fire Lord !AZULaFMcQ.
05/28/13(Tue)23:26 No.14838174

Fire Lord !AZULaFMcQ. 05/28/13(Tue)23:26 No.14838174

Replies: >>14838249

>>14837970
Yeah but imagine if shit went as wrong as possible and the niggers moved on D.C. in so much force that they overwhelmed the capital police and made it to the white house before the Marines could deploy their anti-personnel countermeasures

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:26 No.14838178

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:26 No.14838178

>>14838004

No. The lesson to be learned from all of this is to never, ever, call the police.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:26 No.14838182

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:26 No.14838182

>>14838004

We'll fix that eventually.

Until then, better to be judged by twelve than carried by eight. Only takes one juror to declare you innocent.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:26 No.14838190

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:26 No.14838190

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>>14837970
My cousins husband is a secret service agent that works in Chicago but that's all I know.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:27 No.14838205

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:27 No.14838205

Replies: >>14838306

>>14837907
>Live video from Fire Lo's house hours after this post
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc51W8jGv9g
>another terrorist taken, praise Obama

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:27 No.14838212

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:27 No.14838212

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>>14838150

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:27 No.14838225

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:27 No.14838225

Replies: >>14838277

>>14838025
Exile them to a remote area of, just for an example, texas.

>prisoners arrive the first day with some units of guards who have absolute authority over them
>Prisoners marched out to an area with no infrastructure
>PRISONERS dig the stone out to build their house
>PRISONERS put their houses together
>PRISONERS get their ass shot off if they get lippy, don't want to work, or try to escape
>Prisoners live like its 1600; manually maintaining their town on their own
>for every 1 guard that dies, 10 prisoners die, so riots are bad news for everyone, as the 10 that die are randomly selected
>prisoners eventually go back to the "outside" life after spending 90 to 95% of their sentence at the camp

The question is how to keep the human rights groups from flipping their shit.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:27 No.14838226

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:27 No.14838226

>>14838168
You should have been here during /n/

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:27 No.14838237

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:27 No.14838237

>>14836673
These are the kinds of people we want running western civilization. Truly, 55 y.o. ugly nannies have been a boon for freedom and sanity everywhere.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:28 No.14838249

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:28 No.14838249

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>>14838174
the SS gets trained to deal with almost any type of situation and they have access to p.gud equipment

>>14838190
is your cousin hot

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:29 No.14838277

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:29 No.14838277

Replies: >>14838343

>>14838225
I wouldn't shoot them.


I would tase and mace their asses first. Beat the shit out of them with the use of a three-guard beatdown. Then see if anybody wants to get lippy or bitchy about it.
Ah, idealism and realism. Painful.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:30 No.14838306

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:30 No.14838306

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>>14838205
>Fire Lo's house hours after this post
>>B-B-BUT GUIZE! I AM GRILL
>HE'S GOT A GUN
*gunshot*
>Tango down, I repeat
>Tango down

good riddance

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:30 No.14838309

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:30 No.14838309

>>14837885
>if all he did was poke Trayvon would not be legally justified in responding with enough force to risk real injury.

That would largely depend on the jury you got at the time. That's a matter that's completely up in the air. If one person "assaults" another, quotation marks emphasized, then the other person is perfectly within their rights to defend themselves using force that COULD HAVE caused real injury, provided they didn't. Or even if they did, if the emotional tension was deemed serious enough to make the original victim fear for their safety and overreact. Such as when a stranger walks up to you threateningly in the dead of night and starts hurling racial slurs at you, which is also something Zimmerman admitted to doing to Trayvon. If I thought someone was legitimately going to try and lynch me, and they came running up to me in the dead of night, and poked me on my nipple, I'd tear their fucking head off. And though I might not get away with it, the charge of their death would surely be reduced to something much less than 1st or 2nd degree murder so long as I used only my bare hands and completed the act of ripping their head off in 1 or 2 motions.

If Zimmerman had broken this kid's arm with bare hands, and suffered only that pimple on the back of his head like he did in real life, then he probably would have had charges against him dropped. The evidence on what happened is too shakey and circumstantial, for the most part. But he didn't do that. He produced a gun and ended a fight people are 99% certain he started in the first place against an unnarmed victim he had been informed he had no right to detain, which is exactly what everyone is 99% certain he was trying to do. And 99% certain is beyond a REASONABLE doubt.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:30 No.14838318

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:30 No.14838318

>>14838083
You're making the mistake of comparing evidence about the character of the alleged victim to evidence about the alleged perpetrator. This evidence is to show that Zimmerman's statements about Martin's actions are in character.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:30 No.14838331

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:30 No.14838331

>>14838150

Hmm. Say the riots happen, mass chimpout, you get the drill. Will we see LA Riot-style defense of folks' homes and businesses the same way we did then, but in greater numbers? Those events are well-known to gun owners, and the Asian communities are as strong as ever. From what I know of Arab and Persian communities (big one near my neighborhood), they would react the same way. Some whites would (not my neighborhood). Jews, no.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:31 No.14838343

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:31 No.14838343

Replies: >>14838427

>>14838277
My point was only to say they live in a remote area and have extreme, intense discipline coupled with very few personal civil rights and that their survival as a group is dependent upon them being able to work together.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:31 No.14838350

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:31 No.14838350

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>>14838249
Yes she is, she is very athletic.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:31 No.14838361

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:31 No.14838361

Replies: >>14838438

>>14838073
Reality Hurts doesn't it.

>black 7 times likely to commit homicide

http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/vvr98.pdf

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:32 No.14838397

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:32 No.14838397

Replies: >>14838495 >>14838531 >>14838650

>>14838006
lol, wow

All I'm saying is that if you walked up to me and asked me that, I'd tell you to go fuck yourself. And if you tried to MAKE me answer your questions, it better include you touching me in any way, or it would result in you getting your arm broke AND you getting charged with assault.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:32 No.14838399

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:32 No.14838399

Replies: >>14838453

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>>14838350
It's always gotta be the cousin, doesn't it

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:33 No.14838427

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:33 No.14838427

Replies: >>14838475

>>14838343
Well hey.

Let's lobby for it.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:34 No.14838438

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:34 No.14838438

>>14838361
BUT MUH SLAVERY MUH OPPRESSHUN!

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:34 No.14838440

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:34 No.14838440

Replies: >>14838466 >>14838533

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Would much rather see this.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:34 No.14838448

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:34 No.14838448

Replies: >>14838563

>>14838156
Yeah, I have. It's been quite a while, I don't remember all the details. Are you telling me he stayed on the line WHILE he ignored that non-binding advice 911 gave?

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:34 No.14838453

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:34 No.14838453

>>14838399
Yup

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:35 No.14838464

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:35 No.14838464

Is the judge neoliberal progressive scum?

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:35 No.14838466

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:35 No.14838466

>>14838440
HUE

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:35 No.14838475

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:35 No.14838475

>>14838427
As dumbed down as the general population is, its doubtful they'd go for it, they wouldn't understand that it's what we need, they'd see it as tyranny.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:35 No.14838495

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:35 No.14838495

Replies: >>14838687

>>14838397
>I'd tell you to go fuck yourself.

What's the logic in this? Unless the person sounds threatening or has any kind of threatening stance, then you're just being kind of an uncooperative cunt. It's not like he's asking you to get on your knees and suck him off, he wants to make sure there's no trouble in his community.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:37 No.14838531

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:37 No.14838531

>>14838397
*better NOT include you touching me

Obviously.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:37 No.14838533

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:37 No.14838533

Replies: >>14838619

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>>14838440
>not a drone strike

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:37 No.14838563

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:37 No.14838563

>>14838448
>I don't remember all the details.
I can tell.
>Are you telling me he stayed on the line WHILE he ignored that non-binding advice 911 gave?
He stopped following him and lost sight of him.

http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/326700-full-transcript-zimmerman.html

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:38 No.14838589

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:38 No.14838589

Replies: >>14838628

I thought we'd get to see national chimpout 2013, guess that was ruined

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:38 No.14838593

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:38 No.14838593

>>14835330 (OP)
>George Zimmerman
>TRIAL STILL UNDERWAY
>OP LIES ON /POL/ inb4 b&hammer

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/05/28/18556018-judge-denies-delay-bars-evidence-in-george-zimmerman-trial-for-now?lite
A Florida judge ruled Tuesday that George Zimmerman’s defense team cannot mention Trayvon Martin’s suspension from school, prior marijuana use, text messages or past fighting during opening statements at next month’s trial.

Judge Debra Nelson said that during the trial she will consider motions to admit details as evidence on a case-by-case basis, outside the presence of jurors who will decide if Zimmerman is guilty of second-degree murder in the shooting death of Martin.

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:39 No.14838619

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:39 No.14838619

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>>14838533

Anonymous
05/28/13(Tue)23:39 No.14838628

Anonymous 05/28/13(Tue)23:39 No.14838628

Replies: >>14838886

>>14838589
No it's still going to happen