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FYI, your bios tracks your network traffic.

Proxies won't save you.

pic related
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>>15735523 (OP)
Really? And sends it to who, exactly?
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>>15735558

To Obama, he's reading them all personaly
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>>15735558

who do you think?
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>>15735558

What does Intel stand for?
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>>15735677
Who is he quoting?
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>>15735717
ur ass
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>>15735523 (OP)

didn't corksoaker say he can read your shit, as you are typing it in?

for that shit to be possible it's gotta be in your system, a trojan, maybe an ms rootkit, completely possible to be in firmware.

any documentation OP?
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>>15735558
do you have to ask?
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I use AMD, a proud american semiconductor company with no ties to Israel and no massive advertisement and smear campaigns to kill the competition.
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>>15735848

there are multiple systems of surveillance

with encryption and proxies the nature of your traffic can be hidden, but the sites you frequent cannot. IPs are read straight from the network card.

If somebody's traffic raises red flags, more deliberate methods of surveillance can be implemented
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>>15735848

So he won't be able to know if I'm either criticizing happy merchants or masturbating to pony porn on 4chan?

Nice.
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>>15735523 (OP)
[citation needed]
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>Intel

Haha. The Jews will never catch me.
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>>15735928

don't be silly. AMD wouldn't be allowed to operate if they didn't cooperate

plus this is not about Israel
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>tfw using Windows 8 with Intel Pentium inside
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>>15735523 (OP)

ITT, People who have no idea what a BIOS (or Computer Science) is.
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>>15736090
Seems fine to me.
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>>15735960
MAC addresses are read from the network card not ips. And you can spoof your mac address.
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>>15735975

I don't think the NSA really gives a fuck about 4chan
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When will jewtel be finally called out for being a ruthless monopoly? Sure there's AMD but we know all the cases (some of which they lost but not enough) of all their heebish business practices, how they're in bed with government, how they deal with any competition...
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I flash my bios every other week.
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>>15736028
see>>15736078
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>>15736218
That's an obvious shill.

None of them can type properly, hey look it's you!
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what is a bios
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>>15736166
Y... you mean they have no intention to go all Mossad on /pol/?
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ITT: JIDF spreading disinfo about computer technology.
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>>15736140

MAC addresses can be reconciled with IPs/location, etc.

spoofing doesn't actually change your MAC address; it only appears to (like a proxy seems to obscure your path)

see

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAC_spoofing

"The MAC address is hard-coded on a network interface controller (NIC) and cannot be changed. However, there are tools which can make an operating system believe that the NIC has the MAC address of a user's choosing."
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Good thing I'm on a Linux
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>>15736332
>>15736140

Your OS is after the fact
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>>15735523 (OP)

FYI Steve Jobs invented the internet, because every computer has a MAC Address
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>>15736243

? type properly? I didn't make no mistake. I just didn't capitalise. go fuck yourself.

You think AMD is exempt just because their name isn't Intel?! You are this naive.
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>>15736335
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>>15736249

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BIOS
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>>15736280

no, you're paranoid

>>15736301

>muh 7 boxxies
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>>15736335

Linux is just your OS. Your OS is irrelevant.
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No it's pretty easy to see all incoming and outgoing traffic with something like wireshark.
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>>15736335

see >>15736358
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>>15735995

Yeah, don't network cards have their own firmware also?
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I use only chineses processors. They may break every six months, but they're worth it.
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>>15736249
>>15736432

"The BIOS software is built into the PC, and is the first software run by a PC when powered on."
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>>15735928
>no ties to Israel
Nope just ties to the Saudis and other middle eastern terrorist sponsoring countries.
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you folks really should spend some time on /g/. you're all retarded and shit.

>mfw /pol/ didn't know the 7 layers of the OSI model
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>>15736536

so do monitors, and everything else; but your BIOS has basic functionality built in - this is one of them
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>BIOS
>network traffic

Do you know what a BIOS is?

>hurr durr there's a backdoor in your BIOS !!@!@
This is you.
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>>15736563

In which case the Chinese are spying on you instead (and we're spying on the Chinese)

you can't hide anon
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>>15736642

we're not techies; we have better things to do with our time than sit around and talk about inanimate shit
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>>15735523 (OP)
>mfw AMD
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Is there a thing such as "free hardware"? Not free as in free beer, free as in freedom, you get the point.
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>>15736751
>we have better things to do with our time
no you don't, you're on 4chan.
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Intel Phenom II x6 master race

Overclocked Chrome too
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>>15736708

>Do you know what a BIOS is?

Speak for yourself. Your BIOS communicates with your system, including your network card.

It is software - it can be written to include this functionality.

You have no counter-argument, just hurr durr
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101010001011111010010101011010011101100101....
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>>15736642
>he thinks /g/ knows what they're talking about
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>>15736762

see >>15736078
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>>15736817

there's a big difference between /pol/ and /mlp/ or /soc/ or /g/
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>>15736855
>101010001011111010010101011010011101100101
dubs and binary to decimal dubs 2831062377
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>>15736817
this
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>>15736787
http://opencores.org/
There's OpenRisc but it's kinda in the early stages. There are no available boards with vga yet.
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>>15735523 (OP)
There is a reason all successful "terrorist" cells opperate by word of mouth and by written message ONLY.
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>>15735585
The only literate nigger in history may as well put his skill to good use.
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>>15736964
Too bad there are xenobugs in pens and pencils
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>>15736787
Of course. Go look up the type of laptop Richard Stallman uses, or consider the entire DD-WRT project.
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http://www.slideshare.net/endrazine/defcon-hardware-backdooring-is-practical
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>>15736848
>You actually think you know what you are talking about.

Come back when you try cracking a BIOS.
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>>15735523 (OP)
anyone with an eprom programmer could take a look at their bios chip and tell you that isn't even remotely true or possible, given the capacity of a bios chip.

tl;dr you're a fucking retard
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It feels so good to have an old thinkpad T50 with coreboot BIOS with Arch GNU/Linux.

>You are all inferior.
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>>15737038
>cracking old BIOS
>UEFI in place
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>>15737050

Yet here you are. That's incongruent.
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>>15735523 (OP)
>FYI, your bios tracks your network traffic.
except that's wrong, the bios has no way of telling what netowrk card you're using, what OS you're running, or if you're online at all.

Also,
>not using EFI
>2014-1
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Have a private search engine /pol/:

https://ixquick.com/

(these boobs are natural by the way)
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>>15737050
thinkpads are worthless
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>>15737012
DD-WRT is software and Longsoon can never be GPL because the Chinese simply stole MIPS and slapped a new label on it.
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>>15737105
>trusting a gringo
not even once
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>>15737105
What's the difference between ixquick and startpage?
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>>15735523 (OP)

ist...
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>>15737038

they don't crack the BIOS dumbfuck - it's written that way to begin with
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>>15737158
Nothing as they are both honeypots.
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>>15737050
>arch
please don't tell me you let /g/ troll you.
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>>15735523 (OP)
pics (of wireshark logs) or it didn't happen
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>>15737216
The Internet is a honeypot.
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>>15737050
90% of Arch users are dumber than Ubuntu users. They can't think on their own without referring to a wiki.
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/g/ here, you're all fucking retarded. You can capture network traffic on your router. They don't track shit.
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>2013
>BIOS
>not EFI
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>>15737146
i don't know what's up with the spanish, she's from the Czech Republic
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>>15737259

gtfo and direct people to falcon threads
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Are you saying that this linux can run on a computer without windows underneath it, at all ? As in, without a boot disk, without any drivers, and without any services ?

That sounds preposterous to me.

If it were true (and I doubt it), then companies would be selling computers without a windows. This clearly is not happening, so there must be some error in your calculations. I hope you realise that windows is more than just Office ? Its a whole system that runs the computer from start to finish, and that is a very difficult thing to acheive. A lot of people dont realise this.

Microsoft just spent $9 billion and many years to create Vista, so it does not sound reasonable that some new alternative could just snap into existence overnight like that. It would take billions of dollars and a massive effort to achieve. IBM tried, and spent a huge amount of money developing OS/2 but could never keep up with Windows. Apple tried to create their own system for years, but finally gave up recently and moved to Intel and Microsoft.

Its just not possible that a freeware like the Linux could be extended to the point where it runs the entire computer fron start to finish, without using some of the more critical parts of windows. Not possible.

I think you need to re-examine your assumptions.
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>>15737238
Your mom's vagina is a honeypot.
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>>15737259
Unless the router has an intel processor too
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>>15737045

>wishful thinking
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Hearing the difference now isn't the reason to encode to FLAC. FLAC uses lossless compression, while MP3 is 'lossy'. What this means is that for each year the MP3 sits on your hard drive, it will lose roughly 12kbps, assuming you have SATA - it's about 15kbps on IDE, but only 7kbps on SCSI, due to rotational velocidensity. You don't want to know how much worse it is on CD-ROM or other optical media.

I started collecting MP3s in about 2001, and if I try to play any of the tracks I downloaded back then, even the stuff I grabbed at 320kbps, they just sound like crap. The bass is terrible, the midrange...well don't get me started. Some of those albums have degraded down to 32 or even 16kbps. FLAC rips from the same period still sound great, even if they weren't stored correctly, in a cool, dry place. Seriously, stick to FLAC, you may not be able to hear the difference now, but in a year or two, you'll be glad you did.
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>>15737104
Modern BIOS can tell the make of network card by hardware ID and toggle certain functionality of network card (eg. wake on LAN, pxe).

Without OS kernel and LAN driver loaded it's as useless as tits on a boar.

Besides, people are already pretty careless, this level of snoop not required. Tracking ISP more effective.

Beyond that, it'd need a destination address to transmit to.
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>>15737361
straws.jpg
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>>15736563
>implying intel processors aren't chinese

also we /g/ now
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>implying this is relevant since the goverment with their black budget will release nanomachines that is transmittable by air and once infected it the machines construct housing and start their own goverment
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>>15737277

>UEFI can't be disabled for legacy OS

Rly anon?
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>>15737402
But i rip my flacs from cds. explain how the loss hasn't occured?
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install gentoo
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>>15737104

it doesn't care what type of card you're using, just like it doesn't care what type of monitor you're using. it has built-in functionality to interact with whatever

in this case reading and relaying MAC addresses is simple and requires very little space/power to operate
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>>15737361
except they don't. ARM, MIPS, ppc, etc.
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>be on /g/, using my Gentoo rig powered by 4 GTX 680's and an i7 2600k, when knock at cave door
>OPEN UP WE'S THE POH LEASE
>push a couple old Pentium 4s against the door (those things are just so damn handy)
>begin waddling towards escape hatch
>BANG BANG BANG
>cops shooting the door, screaming MURIKA FUCK YEAH
>be Canadian, quite confused
>continue waddling as fast as I can
>cops break door down
>they begin sprinting towards me
>one gets caught in my intranet
>fuck that was an expensive cable it's hard to get them that long
>whatever
>cop begins shooting me
>dive behind Fermi pile
>Old Fermis burst into flames, buying me time
>grab my Thinkpad
>escape hatch blocked by cans
>prepare for final stand
>cop comes around corner
>nail her on the head with my Thinkpad
>Thinkpad 1 SWAT helmet 0
>another cop comes around the corner
>shoots me
>absorbed in my fat, bounces off
>this angers me
>release the bear
>Guardian Neckbear leaps from neck and begins biting cop
>throw GNU/Hurd kernel DVDs at him
>he dies from disgust
>cop jumps through can pile
>falls onto my pile of dragon dildos
>runs back out screaming
>jump in my get-away pedovan
>mom runs out of house
>SERGIO COMPUTER NO JUST WERKO, NO GUSTA!!
>NOT NOW MOM I'M BUSY
>rev up car
>cop cars begin coming around corner
>speed off
>they chase me
>they have no drivers and crash into poles
>an entire polish parade
>1.7% of the parade survive
>more cops behind me
>NO TIME FOR LOVE, COPPERS
>helicopter appears above me
>it's rotational velociodencity begins to degrade as it comes closer to my giant dog-shapped pedovan
>it bluescreens
>jump out of door
>hit the floor
>everyone do the dinosaur
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>>15737451
They aren't dumb enough to release fully self replicating nanotech...yet at least.

I'd put more stock in the HK Terminator robots that will be out in 5-10 years.
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>>15737555
I was going to ask for a source

But I see you just tripping
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Use only OpenBSD

http://www.openbsd.org/
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>>15737527
>it has built-in functionality to interact with whatever

hahaha no, that's not how it works.
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>>15737490

Loss was included on .cda if analog recording

>mah rekkurds
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>>15737259

>You can capture network traffic on your router.

meaning?
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>>15737328

uwot?
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>>15735523 (OP)
A firmware is not complex enough to monitor secure communication at OS or application level. As long as you don't use Windows, you should be relatively fine.
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>>15737587
obsd sucks and theo is a faggot
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Each NIC (network identifiaction card) comes with a MAC address (Macintosh Address) so even if you are using superior MAC Apple or a Intel and a AMD then you can still be traced by the NIC MAC. So I always laugh whenever I heard that someone was using a proxy.
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>>15737328

Please tell me you are trolling your balls off
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>>15737699
<----

>>15737738
He has to be. There's no way someone could be this stupid and not employed by newscorp
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>>15737591

yah it is; what would stop them from writing it this way?
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These are theories you can only know about when it goes wrong. Also, it definitely does not contain continuous tracking - that would cause packet detection when examining the computer internet connection/router (which is done regularly throughout the world)

The only possibility is a 'killswitch' that sends over all data on the HDD, or similar, as that is impossible to detect. But I sincerely doubt such a thing exists, for one reason:
> CPU requires access to 'drivers' to access the HDD/network card, and drivers are OS-dependent.

You can NOT write an independent hardware module that works on all operating systems with all possible current, past and future network cards and HDDs. It's impossible. If anything, it would be part of the operating system, which can be avoided by going open source.

The only thing that 'could' be possible is a kill-switch, in the network card, to kill off the internet or perhaps crash the OS. But that's it.
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I thought millennial were supposed to be tech savvy. Guess I was wrong.
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>>15737629

it doesn't need to monitor them at OS or application level. It simply reads off the network card
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>>15737889
So wrong oh so very wrong.
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>>15737889
they are. they have kik
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>>15735523 (OP)

What if I have an extensible firmware interface?
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>>15737556
SERGIO
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>>15737874
Filesize limitations, hardware limitations, and the fact that no proof on concept exists showing this is even possible. Can you prove it's possible?
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>>15737943
and spotify and instantgrammer
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>>15737881

>> CPU requires access to 'drivers' to access the HDD/network card, and drivers are OS-
dependent.

No it doesn't. BIOS has basic functionality built in - (think basic drivers)

That's why even after you wipe your HD, your monitor displays something when you turn your computer on
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>>15737943
lol
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>>15736335

Because you probably have macchanger included in your repositories.
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>>15738000
>BIOS has basic functionality built in
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>>15737981

the filesize required is tiny.

>hardware limitations

this is tautological

>the fact that no proof on concept exists

publically

NSA snooping wasn't public either until it was.

>Can you prove it's possible?

No, but the NSA can :D

You can't disprove it - where there's a will, there's a way. It makes too much damn sense
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>>15736862
>he thinks /pol knows what they're talking about
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>>15738000
Isn't that the GPU of the motherboard at work? You could be right though, since there is no need to 'install' a keyboard. AFAIK you can use a USB keyboard without installing anything on an empty HDD.

I do wonder how this works, though, since it's a bit strange that a BIOS is able to detect a USB port as being a keyboard without any form of driver information.
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>>15737328
My sides.
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>>15738075

That's what BIOS is, faggot

You just accept that what they tell you it does is all it does. That's the difference between us.
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>>15738086
>the filesize required is tiny.
prove it. Make a proof on concept, flash it, and provide wireshark reports.

>you can't disprove it!
Argument from ignorance? Really?
REALLY?


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