Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)21:09 No.13600772

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)21:09 No.13600772

Replies: >>13600900

>>13600694 (OP)
whyt did you eat for breakfast?

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)21:10 No.13600805

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)21:10 No.13600805

Replies: >>13601059

How could real Italian-Style Fascism be implemented in the USA?

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)21:10 No.13600806

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)21:10 No.13600806

Replies: >>13601059

where does my Germanic ass sign up?

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)21:10 No.13600816

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)21:10 No.13600816

Replies: >>13600902 >>13601059

Ok, why do you think you're unique enough to start one of these threads ? It's not like /pol/ is lacking in fascist.

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)21:10 No.13600821

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)21:10 No.13600821

Replies: >>13600964 >>13601059

Why do those axes have such small heads? They look retarded.

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)21:11 No.13600898

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)21:11 No.13600898

Replies: >>13601322

What is your definion of fascism?

Do you belive Italy was truly a facist state, or did they "stray from the ideology"?

In what ways do you think fascism could make the world better?

and finally
What are some shortcomings to fascism?

An actual fascist !SHjzCSZsqE
05/01/13(Wed)21:11 No.13600900

An actual fascist !SHjzCSZsqE 05/01/13(Wed)21:11 No.13600900

Replies: >>13603090

>>13600772
A coffee and a butterd peice of toast and no I didnot instagam it.

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)21:11 No.13600902

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)21:11 No.13600902

>>13600816
/pol/ is more National Socialist or right-libertarian than Fascist in the way Mussolini was.

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)21:12 No.13600914

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)21:12 No.13600914

Replies: >>13601354 >>13601508 >>13602246

>>13600694 (OP)
Is it hard to be so edgy when your axes have such small edges ?

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)21:13 No.13600964

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)21:13 No.13600964

Replies: >>13601159

>>13600821
They aren't actual axes, they were symbols worn by senators and people like that.

An actual fascist !SHjzCSZsqE
05/01/13(Wed)21:15 No.13601059

An actual fascist !SHjzCSZsqE 05/01/13(Wed)21:15 No.13601059

Replies: >>13601279

>>13600805
It cant because the two situations are diffrent. fascism in the US would need to be far, far more radical then the original Italian version.
>>13600806
Do some reading first:
http://fascists.zxq.net/
>>13600816
/pol/ is full of reactionaries and white nationalists, not fascists.
>>13600821
I had a better image but I couldent find it.

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)21:17 No.13601159

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)21:17 No.13601159

>>13600964
That's a stupid symbol for a senate. It just shows to the people that their leaders are as dysfunctional as the axes they use to symbolize themselves.

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)21:18 No.13601220

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)21:18 No.13601220

Do we have any homework in Algebra 2, or was it just the quiz?

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)21:19 No.13601279

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)21:19 No.13601279

Replies: >>13601439

>>13601059
What is your opinion of Oswald Mosley?

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)21:20 No.13601294

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)21:20 No.13601294

Replies: >>13601439

you are given complete control of the USA as a sort of king type role. What do you do?

An actual fascist !SHjzCSZsqE
05/01/13(Wed)21:20 No.13601322

An actual fascist !SHjzCSZsqE 05/01/13(Wed)21:20 No.13601322

>>13600898
A statist Authoritarian ideology that places the needs of the nation above all else and holds the principles of the nation in its highest place.
I think Italy was one of the finer examples as well as Romania. But the problem was they overstreched themselves and lost. But they did fall to totalitarian tendancies that I am against in the end days.
As for short coming I would say that there is little responsibility for action at the top. But that could be fixed by creating an outside agentcy to do that or hold up the citizenry as the vanguard of the national principles but that didnt work out too well in the US so I rather my first option.

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)21:21 No.13601354

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)21:21 No.13601354

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>>13600914

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)21:22 No.13601423

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)21:22 No.13601423

Replies: >>13601750

Three questions:
1. Does fascism necessarily requires the segregation of certain people?

2. What political position is the most irreconcilable to fascism?

3. Also, I want to learn about economics in fascist states. Do you have any books or sources on the topic?

An actual fascist !SHjzCSZsqE
05/01/13(Wed)21:23 No.13601439

An actual fascist !SHjzCSZsqE 05/01/13(Wed)21:23 No.13601439

Replies: >>13601610

>>13601279
I think he was a pretty good to be truthful. His point was that the democratic system was plauged by apathy and a lack of action. However he did fall into the pit of "Gas the Kikes! Race War now!"
>>13601294
I wonder how the fuck that happend because I am a Canadian.

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)21:23 No.13601464

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)21:23 No.13601464

Replies: >>13601675 >>13605172 >>13605694 >>13605784

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>WWII
>mfw democracies and whatever the hell russia was steamrolled fascism

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)21:24 No.13601491

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)21:24 No.13601491

Replies: >>13601750

Is fascism only for white(nordic/anglosaxon) people or can it be successfully adopted by any country?

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)21:24 No.13601508

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)21:24 No.13601508

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>>13600914

Heh.

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)21:25 No.13601541

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)21:25 No.13601541

Replies: >>13602131

What kind of cereal do you prefer?

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)21:26 No.13601610

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)21:26 No.13601610

Replies: >>13602131

>>13601439
>I wonder how the fuck that happend because I am a Canadian.

well shit. just trying to figure out of it would work out in your ideal world.

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)21:27 No.13601634

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)21:27 No.13601634

Replies: >>13602131

why do you think national and racial unity are more important and productive than international and humanistic unity

bonus: don't use pseudoscience, generalizations, or statistical fallacies

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)21:28 No.13601675

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)21:28 No.13601675

Replies: >>13601867 >>13602287 >>13605890

>>13601464
How does he do that? I've been practicing for so long and can't.

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)21:28 No.13601681

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)21:28 No.13601681

Replies: >>13601784 >>13602131

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How do you feel about the fact that in WWII several fascist states, notably a country called Germany, were laid waste to the powers of freedom and liberty?

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)21:28 No.13601714

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)21:28 No.13601714

Replies: >>13602131

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Ever read plato's republic? thoughts?

An actual fascist !SHjzCSZsqE
05/01/13(Wed)21:29 No.13601750

An actual fascist !SHjzCSZsqE 05/01/13(Wed)21:29 No.13601750

Replies: >>13602059

>>13601423
Well, if you mean racism then no. That was a National Socialist thing, flawed concepts and principles of race. But rather then a class war or a classless society fascists aim for a society with diffrent classes that co-exist in a symbiotic relationship, example. Farmer grows food, factory worker makes no food but makes tractors to make the farmer more productive with less energy, enginere makes no food or tractors but made the plans for the tractor.
>>13601491
It is for any nation willing to embrace it. Some countries have had proto-fascists regimes, like Argentina, South Africa (Even if it was racist) China and several others, including Slavs.

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)21:29 No.13601754

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)21:29 No.13601754

Replies: >>13602711

>>13600694 (OP)
Is the USA headed on a fascistic road? If not, what do you think it's heading for and do you support it or think it's bullshit?

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)21:30 No.13601784

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)21:30 No.13601784

Replies: >>13602711

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>>13601681
fascism != national socialism

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)21:31 No.13601867

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)21:31 No.13601867

>>13601675
>the glasses are already open
>arm movement is deliberate and firm
>multiple fingers on frames
>being clutch

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)21:33 No.13601963

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)21:33 No.13601963

Replies: >>13602711

What's anarcho-fascism supposed to be?

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)21:35 No.13602059

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)21:35 No.13602059

Replies: >>13602711

>>13601750
>Farmer grows food, factory worker makes no food but makes tractors to make the farmer more productive with less energy, enginere makes no food or tractors but made the plans for the tractor.

Seems to me that the world already works like this. Why is it important that these workers be of different classes?

An actual fascist !SHjzCSZsqE
05/01/13(Wed)21:37 No.13602131

An actual fascist !SHjzCSZsqE 05/01/13(Wed)21:37 No.13602131

>>13601541
Rice crispies
>>13601610
Well a Canadian Authoritarian state free from the grasp of forgien influinces, where the people work, are well fed, with developed minds and a feeling of unity and of an overall goal they are always working towards.
>>13601634
National unity is important, Im not a fan of racial segrigation or white nationalism. But the simple fact is that people need to work together to be more productive. The more hands moving towards a single goal that may be beyond the sight of an individual. The problem with globalism is that is an unfair distribution of gain and labor and not to mention the exportation of jobs makes it harder for the citizenry to be productive with less jobs avalible.
>>13601681
I think they were too full of ideological ferver to not bite down on their own propaganda. That in the end sent them to the grave of states.
>>13601714
Iv only ever thumbed through it, not enough to give a solid informed opinion, sorry.

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)21:40 No.13602246

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)21:40 No.13602246

Replies: >>13602711

>>13600914
This. Answer it.

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)21:41 No.13602287

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)21:41 No.13602287

>>13601675
You're so stupid it hurts.

Ow :(

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)21:47 No.13602522

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)21:47 No.13602522

Replies: >>13602957

whats the fascist position on private property?

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)21:49 No.13602632

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)21:49 No.13602632

Replies: >>13602967

>>13600694 (OP)
So I assume the images in op's post are government outsourced axe-tampons for women which are price set and paid for by government, but it doesn't matter anyway cause the female is taxed at 80% and then she gets a package of these sent to her monthly?

An actual fascist !SHjzCSZsqE
05/01/13(Wed)21:51 No.13602711

An actual fascist !SHjzCSZsqE 05/01/13(Wed)21:51 No.13602711

>>13601754
I think the US is headed down the opposite road from authoritarianism to totalitarianism with the slight of big money with them. So in other words brace your collective red white and blue anus.
>>13601784
Not quite there buddy. NS is an offshoot that had quite a few problems.
>>13601963
A pipe dream. Nothing more.
>>13602059
It is a matter of mutual respect. By returning honour to labor the classes become more specialised and productive. Farmers become better farmers. Intillectuals become better intilectuals all the while not being at eachothers throats and are not exploited anywhere near as hard. The working class is the lifeblood of the nation. Without them the nation is doomed. If you are happy and productive in your place then you wont be scrambling like a rat to become rich.
>>13602246
Its hard man. But it aint nuttin but a thang.

An actual fascist !SHjzCSZsqE
05/01/13(Wed)21:56 No.13602957

An actual fascist !SHjzCSZsqE 05/01/13(Wed)21:56 No.13602957

>>13602522
The possition is that all citizens have the right to property. House, car, and what not.
But the means of production is distributed among the most productive members of society. So lets say that you have a company and you have made more money then yous could ever spend. Like for the sake of example walmart. Fascist would look down on you.
But if lets say you owned a small store you take extra care to present and personalise your work and product. Willing to go the extra yard for your customers. That is about your own lively hood. Not about amassing more money then you willever need and have an ungodly amount of huberus.

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)21:57 No.13602967

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)21:57 No.13602967

>>13602632
i forgot to mention, women even if they had more money left over to buy tampons they still aren't legally allowed to... maybe unless they do it on a black market because it's illegal possibly punishable by death to buy different tampons

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)22:00 No.13603090

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)22:00 No.13603090

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>>13600900
I almost had a religious epiphany.

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)22:12 No.13603611

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)22:12 No.13603611

Replies: >>13603808

Is english your first language?

An actual fascist !SHjzCSZsqE
05/01/13(Wed)22:16 No.13603808

An actual fascist !SHjzCSZsqE 05/01/13(Wed)22:16 No.13603808

>>13603611
Yes.

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)22:17 No.13603827

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)22:17 No.13603827

Replies: >>13604727

Given that one of the central precepts in western Liberal democracies is the pursuit of individuality, what hope do you have that the general population could be convinced to give that up ? Fundamental aspect of Fascist ideology (as I see it - pls correct otherwise) is mass unquestioning loyalty and obedience to the state, a foregoing of personal choice and freedoms etc - do you really think that's likely ? What kind of situation could possible lead to this happening ?
Also, one of the traditional role of intellectuals in a liberal democracy is to be critical of the state so how can you claim they'd be better off under an authoritarian regime ?

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)22:24 No.13604139

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)22:24 No.13604139

Replies: >>13605065

Individualistic Libertarian here.

What justification can you give for the ethics of collectivism? Don't individuals have rights? (Self ownership, Property, etc)

An actual fascist !SHjzCSZsqE
05/01/13(Wed)22:39 No.13604727

An actual fascist !SHjzCSZsqE 05/01/13(Wed)22:39 No.13604727

Replies: >>13605982

>>13603827
Well you are half right. Problem is that compairing fascist states with liberal democrtic states is next to imposible. Germany, Italy and Romania were never democratic for any great length of time in reality democracy was to them a forigen concept so setting up a state like that was a no brainer as they all saw how inefficient he democratic system was.
Also fascism is not an export ideology like democracy or communism. It is intertwined with the national ideals and principles of the contry that is manafests in. So fascism in the US would undoutably have some of the democratic principles in it in some way. Compared to what I am assured most of what you have been told is stories of constant oppresion of the general populace. But in an Authoritarian state the citienry is trusted except under extream cercemstances like war or aother serious imminent problem. As for obediance Ill quote Ayn Rand even though i hate her.
"A man choses. A Slave obeys" In the end the choice to obey is yours. You can and will think criticaly. A fascist state where a person does not stand up and bring a problem into view is no fascist state at all.
Also, know the diffrence between Authoratarianism and totalitarianism. A state is a degree of one or the other.a Totalitarian state is totaly mobilised to prepetuate the state nothing else.
An authoritarian state is set to achieve goals of the state. Be they more abstract like interpretations of freedom and the law or things like grain production through the will of an authority including elected officials.
Liberals on the other hand think anything bigger then them is scary. They also liberate themselves to the point that they strip away their identity and then need to make one up. Be it sexuality or gender or any number of other things to the point not even scicen can support so they mosty justify things with feelings.
As for the intillectuals they are part of the state. who beter to criticise then the person sitting across from you.

An actual fascist !SHjzCSZsqE
05/01/13(Wed)22:48 No.13605065

An actual fascist !SHjzCSZsqE 05/01/13(Wed)22:48 No.13605065

Replies: >>13605215

>>13604139
If you will read through some of my posts fascit policy does allow for private property. But the means of production are meant to be used to its fullest extent. Also the objective of industry is to produce goods or comodities. Not to make money. Not that you wont make any money.
As for the individualist part people have mutual respect for one another because they need eachother. If lets say eaverbody that didnt do what you did just fucked right off and decided not to help you in any way you would be begging for food in a week or less.
Now thats not to say you would not be able to do things you like. Like art or some such. But if you and to stop traffic because you like to fuck men in the ass and cause they hurt your feels in highschool by calling you a fag.
Not to mention in a fascist society the individual is tasked whith constantly growing and becoming a better and more productive person.
Basically imagine a nation where everybody is trying to be goodguy greg.

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)22:48 No.13605104

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)22:48 No.13605104

Replies: >>13605266

What do you think about the works of Julius Evola, the Italian Fascist Philosopher?

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)22:50 No.13605172

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)22:50 No.13605172

Replies: >>13605616

>>13601464
>whatever the hell russia was
Communist. Don't label it with "Stalinist" or "hurr durr not real communism!"

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)22:51 No.13605215

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)22:51 No.13605215

Replies: >>13605392

>>13605065
How about individual property?
If I pick a flower, will I be charge with theft of the state?
What is our common bond, truly?
Freedom?
Freedom!

An actual fascist !SHjzCSZsqE
05/01/13(Wed)22:52 No.13605266

An actual fascist !SHjzCSZsqE 05/01/13(Wed)22:52 No.13605266

Replies: >>13605979 >>13606053

>>13605104
He has been a big influince on me. He had a good head on his shoulders and developed the spiritual concept of race. But he was also openly critical of some of the problems with fascism and gave much food for thought to later fascists.

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)22:54 No.13605344

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)22:54 No.13605344

Replies: >>13605668

How's the 8th grade going?

An actual fascist !SHjzCSZsqE
05/01/13(Wed)22:55 No.13605392

An actual fascist !SHjzCSZsqE 05/01/13(Wed)22:55 No.13605392

>>13605215
All land not held by individuals or groups directly is property of the nation administerd by the state. The commond bonds of people are unique to that region and peoples. I dont know where you hail from but freedom might just be that.

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)22:58 No.13605495

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)22:58 No.13605495

Replies: >>13605716 >>13605768 >>13605805

>>13600694 (OP)
Define fascism for me please?

This is what I think-
>Reject idea of classes, serve the natural ruling class
>Work for the prosperity of the state

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)23:01 No.13605616

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)23:01 No.13605616

>>13605172
Nah. It's Stalinist.

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)23:02 No.13605668

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)23:02 No.13605668

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>>13605344

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)23:03 No.13605694

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)23:03 No.13605694

Replies: >>13605782

>>13601464

>WWII
>A steamroll
>Three world powers vs. one (Lets face it, Italy doesn't count) fighting on three fronts

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)23:03 No.13605716

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)23:03 No.13605716

Replies: >>13605896

>>13605495
>reject idea of classes
>serve the natural ruling class
wtf are you even saying

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)23:04 No.13605736

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)23:04 No.13605736

Replies: >>13605830

>>13600694 (OP)

Do you love your mama?

(i'm srs...)

An actual fascist !SHjzCSZsqE
05/01/13(Wed)23:04 No.13605768

An actual fascist !SHjzCSZsqE 05/01/13(Wed)23:04 No.13605768

Replies: >>13605960

>>13605495
Close. The 'natural ruling class' for most nations would be monarchs and most fascist states hated their monarchs for being despotic and corrupt. The ruling class of a fascist state are the people who brought about revolutionary change and they who showed merit. (but in some nations the historical and culteral structures may not allow for that)
All productive members of society are honoured. A man is not some hick farmer or some hoidy toidy intilectuall. We are all comrades with the common goals of making our nation worth of our love and admiration.

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)23:05 No.13605782

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)23:05 No.13605782

Replies: >>13605945

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>>13605694
They were fucking amazing to pull that off for so long.

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)23:05 No.13605784

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)23:05 No.13605784

>>13601464
Why does everyone forget that Brazil had a fascist-like (but much more brutal) regime and was in the Allied side?

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)23:05 No.13605805

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)23:05 No.13605805

Replies: >>13606107

>>13605495

>reject the idea of classes
>serve the natural ruling class
>reject classes
>ruling class

What you think doesn't make any sense.

An actual fascist !SHjzCSZsqE
05/01/13(Wed)23:06 No.13605830

An actual fascist !SHjzCSZsqE 05/01/13(Wed)23:06 No.13605830

>>13605736
Yes. My mother was a good parent and I do love her as any son worth his spit should.

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)23:07 No.13605890

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)23:07 No.13605890

>>13601675
This is actually in reverse, in reality he is taking off his glassed

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)23:07 No.13605896

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)23:07 No.13605896

Replies: >>13605960 >>13606266

>>13605716
I had read that Fascist philosophers reject the idea of economic classes and claim that there will always be a ruling class. The people must act as one with the state for the betterment of the state (Economy = People)

I assume I'm wrong though. What makes fascism fascism? I'm genuinely interested what real fascism is. I'm a Democratic/Volunteerist/whatever the fuck Socialist btw.

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)23:09 No.13605945

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)23:09 No.13605945

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>>13605782

German discipline and ingenuity. If only Hitler had solidified his position in German speaking states, waited for USSR provocation and taken the highground.

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)23:09 No.13605960

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)23:09 No.13605960

>>13605896
>>13605768
Quote wrong guy. My bad. But thanks.

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)23:09 No.13605979

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)23:09 No.13605979

>>13605266
I've been reading his Metaphysics of War, along with Nietzsche and Tolstoy. All three are having a big effect on the way in which a view honour. Jack Donovan's The Way of Men has also been extremely helpful, and I'd recommend it.

>Q: Why Fascism over National Socialism?

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)23:09 No.13605982

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)23:09 No.13605982

>>13604727
>A fascist state where a person does not stand up and bring a problem into view is no fascist state at all.
So you condone criticism of a fascist state ? What's to stop you being banged up in jail or done away with by the state for voicing your concerns as has happened in pretty much every other authoritarian regime ? I mean really, we've come close to that now in the US some instances the past 10 years - then again, there's some who say we're living a bit of a lie with muh freedoms anyway, that the coercion of state power by corporate interest is itself a form of fascism...
As for:
>"A man choses. A Slave obeys"
Sure, but if the choice is gulag, execution, or being silenced by the state, it isn't really a "choice" at all - does that make sense ?
The excessive liberal freedoms bit doesn't do much for me really; being transgender or a fag is much the same as being some gun toting rapture type as far as I'm concerned, ie just another personal choice - a little tired of the pleas for some kind of scientific proof of such choices from the right as not as if their held to acct for their religious beliefs etc... And really, identifying yourself as a fascist is pretty much just another "choice" that you're free to make under the current system - your thoughts ?

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)23:09 No.13605987

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)23:09 No.13605987

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Have you served in the military? And if so, what branch.

Are you religious? And if so, what religion.

Do you believe in the right of regular people to own firearms (more so, does Fascism agree/deny this right) And if so, do you own any weapons.

Is Fascism inherently racist?

How come I would annihilate you in a game of chess?

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)23:10 No.13606026

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)23:10 No.13606026

Would you consider Franklin Roosevelt to be the less extreme version of Adolf Hitler?

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)23:11 No.13606053

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)23:11 No.13606053

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>>13605266

Reading Men Among the Ruins right now. Fantastic book. Thoughts on Savitri Devi? Read The Lightning and the Sun not too long ago as well.

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)23:12 No.13606089

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)23:12 No.13606089

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>>13605987

Also I'd like to add to this:

Where and how do you see the beginnings of a Fascist state coming about?

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)23:12 No.13606107

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)23:12 No.13606107

>>13605805
how about a leveling of class divisions, or convincing the separate classes that such divisions don't exist or are irrelevant, and that the population as a whole is united in it's support of the state ?

An actual fascist !SHjzCSZsqE
05/01/13(Wed)23:16 No.13606266

An actual fascist !SHjzCSZsqE 05/01/13(Wed)23:16 No.13606266

>>13605896
The leadership has the unique position of being able to see all things from the top down and can see the society as a whole and make a more informed choice then one person looking up.
But the diffrence between fascism and some form of totalitarian state is that the people get something out of their labor that is more then just money and security. In a totalitarian state all work and law is set to prepetuate the state not bettering the peoples lives.
But a fascist state could have heavy socialist ideals. Depends on the county but most forms of fascism have them. But unlike most socialists we dont want to destroy old culture or traditions because it is part of who we are.

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)23:16 No.13606284

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)23:16 No.13606284

>>13606089

asked that already but no real response; personally i think it likely we could slip into an authoritarian regime if the economic system breaks down - that's where the real dissatisfaction of the population will manifest itself as a threat to the state and will require some kind of authoritarian action or different form of governing...

Anonymous
05/01/13(Wed)23:17 No.13606313

Anonymous 05/01/13(Wed)23:17 No.13606313

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>mfw reading Julius Evola
It all makes so much sense now.