Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)16:54 No.17170920

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)16:54 No.17170920

Good. Anything to make those liberal indoctrination facilities less amoral.

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)16:54 No.17170934

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)16:54 No.17170934

Replies: >>17174950

> reserve the right for any parent to 'remove their child from any educational environment' which 'conflicts with the moral or religious views of the parent.'
uh, and?

> The bill would force schools to make accommodations for every single parent who has a moral or religious objection to any form of
Stop right there. This is like saying that if people have the right to NOT buy apples from the store, the store might go out of business and therefore might have to take drastic measures to keep their business like sell what people want nonforcibly!

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)16:54 No.17170970

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)16:54 No.17170970

Does this apply to niggers? I'd love to see segregation come back.

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)16:56 No.17171065

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)16:56 No.17171065

Replies: >>17171500

> non-aggression principle
what's the problem here?

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)17:02 No.17171500

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)17:02 No.17171500

Replies: >>17171746

>>17171065
It's not like there isn't any choice besides public schools. If you don't like them, send your kid to a private school or homeschool them.

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)17:05 No.17171659

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)17:05 No.17171659

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I support this.

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)17:07 No.17171746

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)17:07 No.17171746

Replies: >>17172086 >>17172953

>>17171500
Or stop forcing curriculums down people's throats? Not everyone can afford private schools and you have to jump through a shitload of state-approved hoops to homeschool anyway. The default shouldn't be conformist.

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)17:11 No.17171988

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)17:11 No.17171988

Replies: >>17178937

This is controversial?

I went through the Texas public education system, and they would often tell us if our parents didn't want us learning certain things due to religion, we could sit out provided we brought a note to class from our parents.

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)17:12 No.17172086

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)17:12 No.17172086

>>17171746
the word is curricula, but you'd know that if you went to school instead of complaining about "muh freedumbs" and learning mormon school shit

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)17:15 No.17172296

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)17:15 No.17172296

Replies: >>17172498 >>17178374

>>17170769 (OP)
>>accommodations for every single parent who has a moral or religious objection

AWWW YEEEAH! ONE STEP CLOSER TO AN ISLAMIC TAKE OVER.

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)17:19 No.17172498

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)17:19 No.17172498

Replies: >>17174494

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>>17172296
This.

I demand kaffir whores be forced to do this, or I will sue.

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)17:25 No.17172953

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)17:25 No.17172953

Replies: >>17173786 >>17174674 >>17177854 >>17178411 >>17178872

>>17171746
Are you a fucking imbecile? it is the job of schools to teach the truth as we know it, not to be religious hugboxes and appeal to every christian and mudslime and nigger in the class.

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)17:38 No.17173786

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)17:38 No.17173786

Replies: >>17174279

>>17172953
This isn't asking for what they teach to be changed you mouth breathing retard.

I hate christfags and mudslimes as much as the next, but get a grip you slut.

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)17:46 No.17174279

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)17:46 No.17174279

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>>17173786
>CHANGE THE CURRICULA, MUH FEELINGS
>not asking for what is taught to be changed

Are you literally retarded?

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)17:48 No.17174340

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)17:48 No.17174340

>>17170769 (OP)
Total non issue. Dead on arrival in the Senate and would be vetoed in a heartbeat by the White House.

Thread hidden, etc.

Daniel Hamas
07/13/13(Sat)17:50 No.17174494

Daniel Hamas 07/13/13(Sat)17:50 No.17174494

>>17172498
If I read the report correctly,
There will be 45,000 practice camps for you to learn the ack bars.

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)17:52 No.17174674

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)17:52 No.17174674

Replies: >>17174995 >>17180465

>>17172953

Except evolution isn't the truth as we know it. It's a theory, and it's definitely a solid theory that makes a lot of sense, but we have no conclusive proof of it. The fossil records do not show a clear gradation from species to species, especially not for humans. Teaching evolution as an established fact is just as intellectually dishonest as teaching young-earth creationism as an obejective fact.

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)17:52 No.17174700

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)17:52 No.17174700

This is great, I am proud to live in Texas

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)17:55 No.17174950

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)17:55 No.17174950

>>17170934
This is precisely what liberals do

'MUH RAMENDON'
'MUH MENTAL DISORDER'
'MUH PRONOUNS'

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)17:55 No.17174995

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)17:55 No.17174995

>>17174674
>doesn't know what a scientific theory is

It's not just the fossil record/anthropology. It's also DNA.

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)18:19 No.17177197

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)18:19 No.17177197

Replies: >>17177530

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Parents have always had the right to homeschool their children. We don't need this legislation to confirm that. Deal with it, statists.

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)18:23 No.17177530

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)18:23 No.17177530

Replies: >>17178022 >>17178099

>>17177197
it's legislation that is meant to affect a government program
it doesn't affect private schools/home schools
it doesn't use any tax dollars
it doesn't break the NAP

I don't see what's wrong with it

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)18:27 No.17177854

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)18:27 No.17177854

Replies: >>17181092

>>17172953
>it is the job of schools to teach the truth as we know it

Are you reddit level retarded? Read some John Taylor Gatto. You clearly don't understand how compulsory government education works, or what its STATED goals are.

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)18:29 No.17178022

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)18:29 No.17178022

>>17177530
There's nothing wrong with it at first glance. I'm just making the point that statists will act like if this legislation doesn't pass, that parents don't have a right to homeschool their children. It's important to remind statists of our rights at every step, or they will assume they don't exist.

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)18:30 No.17178099

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)18:30 No.17178099

Replies: >>17178294 >>17178311 >>17178524

>>17177530
>>The bill would force schools to make accommodations for every single parent who has a moral or religious objection to any form of 'educational environment,' or the school district would find itself open to a lawsuit.

It will use tax dollars. The idea is to further cripple the public school system and force them into a budgetary bind, so that the architects can turn around and cry about how they're getting worse. Brought to you by a republican

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)18:32 No.17178200

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)18:32 No.17178200

Replies: >>17178550

Public schools need to be absolutely secular. Fuck your religious and cultural concerns.

Also
> creationism
You invented the plane, the car, even the fucking lightbulb. What the fuck is wrong with you America?

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)18:32 No.17178240

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)18:32 No.17178240

This sounds like a good thing to me.

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)18:33 No.17178294

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)18:33 No.17178294

Replies: >>17178938

>>17178099
>muh two party system nonsense
Both sides are working together AGAINST you, you retard.

>The idea is to further cripple the public school system and force them into a budgetary bind

First of all that's blatantly false, and even if it WERE true, it would be a GOOD thing. The public school system is deranged and damaging to anyone who goes through it.

www.johntaylorgatto.com

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)18:33 No.17178311

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)18:33 No.17178311

>>17178099
>The idea is to further cripple the public school system
good

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)18:34 No.17178374

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)18:34 No.17178374

Replies: >>17178550

>>17172296
Not really.

This doesn't allow a group to take over in any way.

They'll just end up denying their child education by trying to push Islam onto the school system.

This just provides people with a tool to object to questionable material in school.

I would apply this to the marxist agenda being blatantly pushed in the education system.

White privilege being taught to my child? Fuck. No.

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)18:35 No.17178411

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)18:35 No.17178411

Replies: >>17178983 >>17179386

>>17172953
Evolution is a theory, not a known truth.

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)18:36 No.17178524

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)18:36 No.17178524

Replies: >>17178824

>>17178099
Wonderful.

As far as I'm concerned the public education system was a fucking disgusting mistake.

It's just state-sponsored brainwashing at this point.

I want to get back to a point where one parent stays home to educate and raise their children. I don't support the dual-income system, and I don't support the government teaching our children.

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)18:36 No.17178550

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)18:36 No.17178550

>>17178374
Why not just homeschool your children and spare them the torture, the LITERAL torture, that goes on every day? This is besides all the disinfo they'll be fed over the course of their "education".

>>17178200
>America is one person
>>>/reddit/
Read a history book, mudslime.

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)18:36 No.17178568

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)18:36 No.17178568

Replies: >>17179260

What is wrong with this bill?


Parents should have a right to educate their own child in a way they see fit. Not everyone wants to have the government dictating the majority of their child's learning.

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)18:39 No.17178814

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)18:39 No.17178814

Replies: >>17179010 >>17179028

>>17170769 (OP)
>The bill would, according to the memo, reserve the right for any parent to 'remove their child from any educational environment' which 'conflicts with the moral or religious views of the parent.'

Nope.
Nopenoepnoep.
Kill it.

Degeneracy at its finest right here, the parents beliefs should never be forced on a child. That is called indoctrination, and it is the source of almost all modern degeneracy.

Be it modern feminision, homo sex cultre, religions, or any other form of extremist. Almost all of this can be tracked down to parents indoctrinating children.

You sicken me /pol/.
Being a parent does not give you a free pass to indoctrinate a child into certain beliefs.

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)18:39 No.17178824

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)18:39 No.17178824

>>17178524
>It's just state-sponsored brainwashing at this point.
>at this point

It was always state sponsored brainwashing. Carnegie and other capitalists got in on it too, to destroy free thinking and mold children into more obedient factory workers. That's why they pushed the Prussian model.

The worst part about this is, THEY WERE COMPLETELY OPEN ABOUT THEIR GOALS.

www.johntaylorgatto.com

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)18:40 No.17178872

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)18:40 No.17178872

Replies: >>17179338

>>17172953
"Atheist" here. Also, current graduate student in Chemical Physics.


I intend to homeschool my children.

Sorry to shatter your worldview that everyone who doesn't want to have a stranger shove whatever material they want down your kids throat for hours a day, is a religious fundamentalist.

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)18:40 No.17178937

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)18:40 No.17178937

Replies: >>17179338

>>17171988
Yeah but they want to make it easier to make sure everybody is ignorant.
Its not going to only be evolution v creationism, its going to be anything that encourages critical though, if it questions what the parents think.

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)18:40 No.17178938

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)18:40 No.17178938

Replies: >>17179338

>>17178294
>muh false equivalency nonsense

Yeah I've read john taylor gatto. I still think public school is better than the Free Market solution where its only available to rich people.

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)18:41 No.17178983

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)18:41 No.17178983

Replies: >>17179657

>>17178411
Everything is a theory. Gravity is a theory. Atoms are a theory. Electricity is a theory. Classic and quantum physics are theories, and we don't know how to unite the two even though they should fit together some how. And yet, we built computers and cars and planes and fucking spaceships, all on theories.

Evolution is a logical theory derived from secular observations of our environment. Therefore its sound and should be taught in schools.

Creationism spits in the face of everything that's science because it makes an irrational hypothesis based on pure conjecture and then tries to shoehorn actual environmental observations into a theory that fits the hypothesis. It doesn't belong in classrooms.

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)18:41 No.17179010

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)18:41 No.17179010

Replies: >>17179207

>>17178814
>The government has a right to indoctrinate your child but you do not

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)18:42 No.17179028

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)18:42 No.17179028

Replies: >>17179207

>>17178814
>the parents beliefs should never be forced on a child.
And the beliefs of the state SHOULD? Fuck off, statist.

>Being a parent does not give you a free pass to indoctrinate a child into certain beliefs.
Seriously, are you brain damaged? Why should a government school get the right to indoctrinate children, but parents shouldn't?

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)18:42 No.17179073

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)18:42 No.17179073

>>17170769 (OP)
Gohmert: a shitty fanatic from a shitty fanatic state

I wish Texas would seccede.

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)18:44 No.17179207

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)18:44 No.17179207

Replies: >>17179554 >>17179981 >>17180183 >>17180640

>>17179010
>Indoctrinate
You should be taught facts, how to think scientifically and how to think freely as a child.
Nobody should be indoctrinating anyone.

Once again.
indoctrination as a child is the source of all modern degeneracy. Teaching a child facts is not indoctrination. Teaching a child how to think is not indoctrination.


>>17179028

>Fuck off, statis
>Building strawmen
Top lel, grow up.

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)18:44 No.17179260

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)18:44 No.17179260

Replies: >>17179898 >>17181258

>>17178568
Doesn't this bill petition public institutions to change their teachings based on the cultural concerns of individuals?

Its the special-snowflake syndrome. Homeschool your kid if you want, but don't force the public school system to change because of your archaic/nonprogressive beliefs.

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)18:45 No.17179338

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)18:45 No.17179338

Replies: >>17179771

>>17178938
>I still think public school is better than the Free Market solution where its only available to rich people.

He promotes homeschooling which is cheaper than ever. You don't need two incomes, you just need dedicated parents who actually raise their children.

Look at this guy >>17178872
He's making the right move. If you want your children to be educated, you homeschool them. If you want them surrounded by niggers and taught to blindly obey authority figures, you send them to public schools.

>>17178937
You're retarded. Does it foster critical thinking to ONLY teach what the government deems fit to teach? In history classes alone there's enough disinfo to make my head spin. The only real way to educate your children is to homeschool them.

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)18:45 No.17179386

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)18:45 No.17179386

>>17178411
So is gravity.

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)18:47 No.17179554

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)18:47 No.17179554

Replies: >>17180170

>>17179207
>Nobody should be indoctrinating anyone.
Then why are you okay with the government doing it?

>Teaching a child facts is not indoctrination. Teaching a child how to think is not indoctrination.
Facts YOU agree with. Teaching them to think LIKE YOU is not indoctrination. You're just a filthy statist.

Explain to me why the government should be allowed to decide what children learn, and why they have more of a right to that decision than the child's parents.

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)18:48 No.17179657

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)18:48 No.17179657

>>17178983
If only the reality of the situation was so black and white.

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)18:50 No.17179771

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)18:50 No.17179771

Replies: >>17180241 >>17182153

>>17179338
And if the (poor) parents aren't qualified to give him a proper education? If homeschooling is all that is available, your child will only ever be at MOST as educated as the parent. That's completely backwards and asinine.

> You don't need two incomes,

Most of the working poor already barely get by with two incomes, where they gonna find the time to school their children without public schools?

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)18:51 No.17179898

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)18:51 No.17179898

>>17179260
The bill is confirming the already existing right of parents to remove their children from school when a class is teaching something they disagree with.

"Accommodations" is as simple as sitting the child in the school library while the class is taught.

However, I do agree with you that parents should just homeschool their children altogether. Focusing on hot-button issues like sex education or evolution in biology class is a type of forum slide to distract parents from what their children learn EVERY DAY in history classes that is just entirely wrong. Remember Holocaust history month? Every fucking year?

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)18:52 No.17179981

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)18:52 No.17179981

Replies: >>17180170 >>17180725

>>17179207
>you should be taught facts

1. Teaching only select facts, which is what schools do, is also a form of indoctrination. When you only feed people bits and pieces of the whole, they often times are led to incorrect conclusions

2. Schools do far more than just get "facts". You are taught that you should trust cops more than your fellow citizens. You are taught that all races are equal. You are taught things that outright untrue--like that the bulk of diet should consist of grains, and that dairy is important for nutrition.


But most importantly, you indoctrinated into blind obedience, mindless regurgitation of anything authority says to you, and absolute reverence for the state.

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)18:54 No.17180170

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)18:54 No.17180170

Replies: >>17180777 >>17180870 >>17181124 >>17181960

>>17179554
>Then why are you okay with the government doing it?

>I say I am not
>You say I am directly after
Do you have the IQ of a chimp?

>Facts YOU agree with.
>Facts
>Agree
You don't have to agree with facts to make them true.
Fucking idiot.
Facts are not beliefs, I don't care if I 'dislike' the fact (Not that I can think of a fact that I dislike), it is still a fact. It is still what reality is. It should be taught.

Teaching facts and scientific/free thinking should be the ONLY thing taught to children. Not faith based beliefs. Not that they want to actually me a transgender child. Not that a sky daddy loves them. Facts.

>Explain to me why the government should be allowed to decide what children learn
Children should be taught facts. If the gubment is doing that, then there is no issue with that. This entire bill is based around pulling children out of a school for unrelated reasons.

>>17179981
>1. Teaching only select facts, which is what schools do, is also a form of indoctrination.
When did I say to do that? Care to quote where I said that?

>You are taught that you should trust cops more than your fellow citizens.
Statistically, you should.

>You are taught that all races are equal.
Indoctrination.
But this bill has nothing to do with this, at all. It doesn't give you a way to object to this.

>like that the bulk of diet should consist of grains...
A simple failure in education, not intentional lies.
Again, see the last sub topic.

Stop building strawmen.

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)18:54 No.17180183

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)18:54 No.17180183

Replies: >>17180395

>>17179207
>indoctrination as a child is the source of all modern degeneracy.
>Be it modern feminision, homo sex cultre, religions, or any other form of extremist

But the vast majority of christfags, feminists, homos, and other extrimists are public schooled.

Meanwhile, a much large proportion of a wealthy business owners, noble prize winning scientists, and successful doctors, were schooled in private institutions.

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)18:55 No.17180241

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)18:55 No.17180241

Replies: >>17181072

>>17179771
>And if the (poor) parents aren't qualified to give him a proper education?
There are homeschooling communities all throughout the USA that help parents in areas where they feel deficient. But any literate parent is qualified to teach reading, writing, and arithmetic.

>If homeschooling is all that is available, your child will only ever be at MOST as educated as the parent.
College exists, and homeschooled children NEVER have problems passing the high school equivalency exams. You can't find a single example of a homeschooled child failing to get a GED and going to college if they want to.

>Most of the working poor already barely get by with two incomes, where they gonna find the time to school their children without public schools?
That's an almost entirely separate matter, but the simple answer is they cut back on expenses, balance their budget, and the mother or father who makes the least quits their job to stay at home and raise their children. There's no excuse for needing two incomes when there's so many welfare benefits in America today for households with children.

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)18:57 No.17180395

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)18:57 No.17180395

>>17180183
And?
What does that have to do with anything?
Degeneracy can be traced back to indoctrination.

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)18:58 No.17180465

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)18:58 No.17180465

>>17174674

Evolution is fact and theory. Educate yourself

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)18:58 No.17180491

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)18:58 No.17180491

Replies: >>17181062

>>17170769 (OP)
Depends on the "Accommodations" There's a pretty big budget outlay to send home school evaluators out constantly.

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)18:59 No.17180640

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)18:59 No.17180640

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>>17179207
You do know that home schooled kids have more economic and scholastic success than ones educated in public school.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505145_162-37242551/can-homeschoolers-do-well-in-college/

http://www.usnews.com/education/high-schools/articles/2012/06/01/home-schooled-teens-ripe-for-college

Lets put it this way. I'm a geologist and religious, only faggot subgroups of evangelicals have a problem with evolution. But at the same time public school pushes propaganda about racial and sexual egalitarianism, which I later found out to be demostrably false.

Frankly if I had to have a kid learn about evolution in his college biology course vs him still believing egalitarianism after college I would choose the former. I easily convinced several evangelicals that evolution was no problem and no natural phenomena could actually conflict with belief in the supernatural.

The only person I have ever convinced that racial egalitarianism is false was my wife. Even my father refuses to accept the data on the grounds that it disturbs him and my arguments if correct might be used against the less intelligent demographics I identified.

Religious believes can readily chance due to divination or theological discussion. Political ideals and values are much harder to change, especially those held by leftists.

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)19:00 No.17180725

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)19:00 No.17180725

Replies: >>17181062

>>17179981


Which bits and pieces are you talking about?

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)19:01 No.17180777

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)19:01 No.17180777

>>17180170
What is a "fact"? Who decides what a fact is? Do you see the root of the problem yet?

>Teaching facts and scientific/free thinking should be the ONLY thing taught to children.
So you're against the government teaching tons of classes full of outright lies and disinfo, right?

Look, before you argue about this any more, you need to make sure you're clear on what facts are, what indoctrination is, and on the history of compulsory government education. I understand that you're against religious fundamentalism and that you hate the idea of religious parents passing on their beliefs. But you need to stop defending the government at any step in this argument because the government is objectively the bad guy here.

Let me just put it in plain terms. If you defend the government's compulsory education scheme AT ALL, then you're a filthy statist.

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)19:02 No.17180870

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)19:02 No.17180870

>>17180170
>You are taught that you should trust cops more than your fellow citizens.
>Statistically, you should.
Not if the citizens are white or asian.

But he is right political indoctrination is rife and much more serious than evolution, and this is me speaking biostratigrapher and petroleum who relies on paleontology for my liviehood.

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)19:03 No.17180927

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)19:03 No.17180927

>believing Jesus is more probable than evolution
This is why /pol/ will always remain a joke, just like the republican party
>inb4 fedora
>inb4 euphoric
>inb4 liberal

Agnostic AnCap who believes homosexuality is a mutation of the mind, if that mitigates any of my Jesus bashing.

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)19:05 No.17181062

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)19:05 No.17181062

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>>17180491
>There's a pretty big budget outlay to send home school evaluators out constantly.
They have that in Texas? I was homeschooled for 8 years in California and never once did someone from the government come to our house.

Like I said above, the accommodations are as simple as sticking the kid in the library for 40 minutes.

>>17180725
Anything to do with history.

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)19:05 No.17181072

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)19:05 No.17181072

>>17180241
>But any literate parent is qualified to teach reading, writing, and arithmetic.

And if the parents aren't literate? Or never even got their HS equivalency themselves? Or are immigrants? Even my white middle class parents could never have educated me to even second year HS level in math and science. Try going to college for a stem degree knowing only how to add multiply and divide, you'll be in for a rude awakening for sure.

>You can't find a single example of a homeschooled child failing to get a GED and going to college if they want to.

Selection bias. Everyone who homeschools their kids currently have the financial and other resources available to do so. If they don't, they go to public school.

>but the simple answer is they cut back on expenses, balance their budget, and the mother or father who makes the least quits their job to stay at home and raise their children

You obviously have no clue what its like to be poor. You honestly think a poor dual-earning family can just budget-out a huge portion of their income?

The funny thing about public schools is that yes they are indoctrination machines but they also give you the tools to identify and see through the manipulation. So its a wash for me, and I'd rather have an educated, if politically/historically biased populace than an ignorant and (still) biased one

Australian, Classical Liberal !7EHpAusbro
07/13/13(Sat)19:05 No.17181092

Australian, Classical Liberal !7EHpAusbro 07/13/13(Sat)19:05 No.17181092

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>>17177854
> Read some John Taylor Gatto
Maximum brofist.

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)19:06 No.17181124

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)19:06 No.17181124

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>>17180170
>free thinking
By that you mean the supremely maladaptive philosophy of secular humanism.

"free thinker" is just codeword for "people that agree with my socio-political position and claim that they came to their position via their own assessments"

Australian,
07/13/13(Sat)19:07 No.17181258

Australian, 07/13/13(Sat)19:07 No.17181258

>>17179260
>Doesn't this bill petition public institutions to change their teachings based on the cultural concerns of individuals?
No.

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)19:08 No.17181277

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)19:08 No.17181277

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>>17181092
His books were fantastic and really eye opening. And I LOVED that he cited all his sources, which made it really easy to confirm everything at my university library.

>>17181124
>"free thinker" is just codeword for "people that agree with my socio-political position and claim that they came to their position via their own assessments"

I couldn't have put it better myself.

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)19:08 No.17181292

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)19:08 No.17181292

Replies: >>17182195

>>17181124
Secular humanism is the crowning achievement of the western world. Literally everything good about western society is due almost entirely to secular humanism and its ideological precursors (going back to enlightenment-era europe)

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)19:09 No.17181352

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)19:09 No.17181352

>>17181062
Texas likes to tout homeschooling it was apart of the old "conservative, libertarian..hybrid" whatever the fuck it was.

it's pretty decent, no one wants to go to public school in Texas, it sucks!

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)19:19 No.17181960

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)19:19 No.17181960

>>17180170
>When did I say to do that? Care to quote where I said that?

You were advocating public education

>Statistically, you should.

Wrong

>A simple failure in education, not intentional lies.

It is intentional lies. That stuff gets taught because of lobbying by the agriculture industry.

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)19:21 No.17182094

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)19:21 No.17182094

And once again the brave posters of /pol/ defeat the statist reddit fedora brigades who come here to promote government tyranny.

Good job men.

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)19:22 No.17182153

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)19:22 No.17182153

>>17179771
>If homeschooling is all that is available, your child will only ever be at MOST as educated as the parent.

Where do you get that idea?

The most popular homeschool programs shift the children into independent last few years, and make use of online resources to test progress.

Anonymous
07/13/13(Sat)19:22 No.17182195

Anonymous 07/13/13(Sat)19:22 No.17182195

>>17181292
>Secular humanism is the crowning achievement of the western world

No, oh god you really can't be this retarded can you? People who ascribe to that philosophy have birthrates that are far below replacement level. They often ascribe to philosophies that value non-human interests, like current evironmentalism rather than merely attempting to preserve a desirable environmental condition.

Let me give you an example: http://pastebin.com/zp79qR2v

I have presented this plan which is possible without soft scifi bullshit to secular humanists and they found it reprehensible. Despite it being a viable survival strategy that doesn't require a conserted effort on the part of humanity. A few states, corporations, clans, or even individuals could see it carried out. Because all it takes on party to start it and it is so easy.

Secular humanists prioritize feelings and emotions over survival. I am a human supremacist but I will never be a humanist of any streak. It correlates with maladaptive behavior every fucking time.


>enlightenment-era europe
The Enlightenment and Renaissance named themselves those by those titles, rather than them being assigned later as descriptors. In truth both did very little for science, industry, or other material interests. The names they gave themselves are pure self aggrandizement, much like the term "free-thinker" which I already ridiculed".

Go ahead, keep swallowing their bullshit. Keep thinking that happiness and other faggot crap matters more than survival and propagation. Your line will slowly peter out unless you have at least 41 5th generation descendants, you need that many to cover for possible losses.