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I spent the day sorting through and re-reading a few thousand e-mails from 2010, and it was really a blast from the past. What a year it was.
Thanks for an awesome 9 years, and for some great e-mails along the way.

As always, I read all of my e-mail and can be reached with questions/comments/concerns/hate mail/and plain ol' hellos at moot@4chan.org (or on AIM at MOOTCHAT).
tl;dr version of 2010: "SPAM, SPAM, SPAM, and VIRUSES: The Movie"

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I'm going to an anti-police rally on Saturday in NYC. I don't think it will turn into a riot, but who knows. What should I bring? Let's make this into a "what you should bring to a protest" thread.

>Water

>Food

>Spraypaint

>Paintbombs

>Bandanna soaked with vinegar (counteracts tear gas if you don't have a gas mask)

>Piece of paper with dedicated legal team/number for the demo just in case


>Black clothing with mask (if your a part of that)

What else?

inb4 FBI asking people about illegal activites
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>>10472577 (OP)

A mortar

captcha: blowths not
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bumpedy
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LOL. You must have a lot of time on your hands. Why don't you spend the time that you would otherwise use protesting looking for a job?
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a shit tonne of weed and every ounce of teen angst you've got.
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>>10472577 (OP)

>anti-police

As in you think there should be no police? Or are you against something particular that they've done?
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Earbuds or earmuffs.
They'll definitely bring out the L-RAD or whatever that shit is called if things get out of hand
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>>10472577 (OP)
Don't forget a pair of rubber gloves, don't want to cut yourself on all those edges.
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Gloves, so you can throw gas canisters back at police.
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>>10472621
The march is against Stop and Frisk and brutality. Personally, I'm against a monopoly state police force.
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You live in one of the youngest, most dynamic, most exciting cities in America and you're spending your weekend at a rally. Congratulations.
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Hey Original Poster!

I love going to rallies. What's your address so I can meet up with you? (We could talk abut the memes on they way there xD).
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>>10472621
Anti-police corruption?

A department certainly in the past has shown the capacity to more than over extended its duties, especially so in to the realm of abuse. Nothing wrong with protesting against, at the very least, administrative ignore and/or negligence of aforementioned abuse.

Not OP though, he can do what we wants, these types of things are begging to be shook down.
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>>10472655
>I'm against a monopoly state police force.

The state is supposed to have more than one police force?
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>>10472648
>>10472616
>>10472619
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>>10472691
>I want to have buttsechs with OP
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Use your time and energy to expose corruption instead. I would've thought that all the Occupy shit proved that all rallys / protests do is make the higher-ups laugh, and get people weekends in jail
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>>10472577 (OP)
>What else?

...video recorder
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>>10472723
The state shouldn't exist at all. I believe in a non-capitalist free market where unions of "private" security firms could offer there services, or people could form neighborhood/community militias.
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>>10472658
I don't even live in NY and have no friends there :( I live in NJ
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>>10472803

So you could then go to anti-private-security or anti-militia rallies?
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>nyc
>faggots who will bend over for the police in bloomberg's police city-state at the first sign of trouble

Pick two.

West New York master race reporting. Fuck yo shit, I got guns.
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>>10472803
Have fun wasting your time trying to implement that! It's so much easier than conforming!
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>>10472848
Nah I would just enjoy my life not under threat of state tyranny.
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>>10472885

Call anything you don't like tyranny or fascism and you might just be an antifa
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>>10472577 (OP)

lol at first i thought your pic was of middle eastern women.
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>>10472885
You'd be under threat of private tyranny instead.
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>>10472885
>mob rule
>tyranny
pick two
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>>10472885

So you're fine with being oppressed by private businesses and militias then? Just so long as it isn't a state?
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>>10472953
I'm not an ancap.
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>>10472961
Mutualism is based on a society in which the economy is organized around free market exchange between producers, and production is carried out mainly by self-employed artisans and farmers, small producers' cooperatives, worker-controlled large enterprises, and consumers' cooperatives. We are against private property, and for occupation and use property norms. To the extent that wage labor still exists (which isn't very likely), the removal of statist privileges will result in the worker's natural wage, as Benjamin Tucker put it, being his full product. If somebody doesn't like the market system, we believe that communes and mutual aid networks should exist to take care of people.
Voluntaryists believe in a socially stratified hierarchal society filled with small scale boss-worker tyranny where everything and everybody is commodified. They think it is right for one person to own a chunk of land they never have set foot on. Any worker self organization would be quickly smashed. All of that could never happen, of course, because capitalism requires state intervention.

there will not be "private business" as we have it now.
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>>10472967
Be that as it may, without regulation your private security companies would turn into oppressors.
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OP, is antisocial.

Loser
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Hey OP I hope the cops mistake live ammunition for rubber bullets.
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Hey look, another info-gathering thread.

>here fishy fishy fishy

Sage bomb this shit.
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>>10473023

>private property

Get ready for an arbitrary distinction between private and person property.
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>>10472961
>so youre fine with being oppressed by evil satan worshipper capitalist pigs and scary fat bubba gun nut babby killers, comrade?
Fixed that little mistake for ya there, commissar
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>>10472817
well theres your problem right there.
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A sign that says "Dorner Lives".
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I smell FEAR
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>>10472577 (OP)


Why would you protest NYPD? They are ok. They are probably the most liked in the US.

Certainly not LAPD.
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>mfw one black man is able to accomplish more anti-police action than entire rallies
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don't forget da e f pees
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Tear gas works on mucous membranes, cover you eyes as well, sealed not ventilated (swimmers goggles are good). To stop fogging a light application of olive oil on the inside.

Ladies wear undies and a pad, yes your twat is a mucous membrane, get a dose up you leg and you will be unhappy.

Alos on the off chance, someone should have an epi-pen in case someone has an alergic reaction to the CS.
Unlikely, but a possibility.

If you want to give the coppers the shits ask who their dedicated medic is so you can take any injured protesters to them.
In Oz, its against procedures to use CS without medical backup present..

(Ex-chemical munitions operator, detention services)
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>>10473154

>Implying the state is the only entity capable of oppressing people.

You can't be serious?
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>bring a gun
>when in a crowd and masked shoot at police officers
>run away in the panic
>cops will shoot live rounds into innocent protestors
>Libya 2.0 commences
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>>10472577 (OP)

WhAT ARE YOU CRAZY? AMERICA LOVES RIOTS...AND COME ON A POLICE RIOT...you really think nothings going to happen?
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>>10472885
Trusting corporations this much
I wish I lived in your blissful world.
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>>10473350
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>>10473201
NYPD are raving assholes.

They main difference between them and the LAPD is that they actually keep crime down and seem to be pretty honest overall.

They still treat the average citizen like shit.
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Don't bring shit. You will want to distance yourself when the morons from both sides start to get bored. Seriously.

There's very little good that comes out of attending most protests. Take in the smells, the sights, the sounds, the speech, then ask yourself if you belong amongst these people. Look around and see the parasitic dregs of society with chips on their shoulders and EBT cards in their pockets. Listen to politics being discussed by people who have no idea what they're talking about. See the wasted potential pissing away their lives for someone else's political gain. Smell that patchouli and stale human grease. Maybe some arrogant asshole will start instigating the police and you'll get to see him whine like a bitch when shit gets real. You'll forget about the cause real quick.

That's just my experience, you'll make your own opinion. There's better shit you can do with your time than protest police brutality.
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>>10473350
After what happened in LA, and most people not giving 2 shits, it's not going to happen here.

NYPD is almost as fucked and incompetent as LAPD.
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>>10472885
>Nah I would just enjoy my life not under threat of state tyranny.

Hate to break it to ya man, but... pic related.
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>>10473350
Brilliant.
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>>10473333
You're right comrade! The state will protect us! The state will provide to each by his needs! Forget the corruption alleged against our glorious and amazing state by our evil capitalist oppressors! For Stalin!
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>>10473201
>>10473400

Google "Stop and Frisk". It keeps crime down, guns and drugs off the street, and makes everyone who's targeted by it (mainly minorities, but plenty of poor white ethnics and white teenagers too) hate the cops.
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>>10472577 (OP)
Where is it gonna be

I live in midtown
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>>10473488
There's no excuse for it, they're doing nothing more than taking down expendable individuals.

Sure as shit they're not patting down Mr. Supersuit with half a kilo of coke in his coat pocket.
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>>10473350
Or, bring some sort of loud pyrotechnic or non-lethal explosive device and set it off when you;re in the crowd. It would need to be small though
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>>10473400

This. My dad is NYPD. Several family are NYPD. I live in New York, and do generally LIKE police. There is a LOT of unwarranted police brutality though especially after 9/11 because almost all NYPD units responded and saw some fucked up shit that gave a good number of officers PTSD.
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>>10473588

Throw dry ice bombs, they're load as fuck if done right, I mean gunshot loud.
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>>10473567
Of course not, he pays lots of taxes and he's not likely to commit violent crime.
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>>10473616
loud as fuck****
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>rally/protest
>accomplishing anything but the opposite of what you intend
pick one
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>>10472621
>As in you think there should be no police?
>Being this stupid
Yes, people hold anti-police rallies just for the hell of it. Fuck the popo smoke weed erry day.
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>>10472930
>lol at first i thought your pic was of middle eastern women.

And i thought it said "anti-racist rally". I came in here all fired up, then saw it said "anti-police". lel morphine
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"anti-police rally"

aka a bunch of niggers, spics, hippies, and other subhumans
hope you get teargas'd
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>>10473201
NYPD is militarized as fuck and runs domestic spying programs

They're trigger happy as hell too

And they're directly funded by contributions to various "funds" from the TBTF banks so they are literally the bankers' private army for the city they rule
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>>10473644
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>>10473201
>>10473100
>>10473105
>>10472961
>>10472953
>>10472868
>>10472658

fucking police officers on /pol/
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>>10473625
But can u make it from a normal Freezer?
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>>10472658
>jobless "GET A JOB HIPPY"
>politically inactive "LEARN ABOUT YOUR FUTURE HIPPY"
>have a job " HOWS WORKING FOR THE MAN HIPPY"
>participate in activities that voice political opinion " WAY TO WASTE YOUR LIFE HIPPY"
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>>10473488
>Google "Stop and Frisk". It keeps crime down, guns and drugs off the street

LOL no...
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>>10472577 (OP)

Don't go to the riot, it will be dangerous as fuck .. just stay at home in your safety zone and post on /pol/.
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>>10473232
>Alos on the off chance, someone should have an epi-pen in case someone has an alergic reaction to the CS.

Fucking hell, it's half baked information like this that gets people killed. Epi-pens are only to be used in the case anaphylactic shock (i.e the casualty can't complete a sentence in one breath due to the airway closing up).

Also stick them in the upper outer quadrant of the thigh and seek immediate medical attention (bring the pen with you).
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Why do liberals think you can have a "nice" police force in a country filled with third worlders?
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Wheres it gonna be
I live in NYC
I wanna bludgeon hippies
Wheres it gonna be
I live in NYC
I wanna bludgeon hippies
Wheres it gonna be
I live in NYC
I wanna bludgeon hippies
Wheres it gonna be
I live in NYC
I wanna bludgeon hippies
Wheres it gonna be
I live in NYC
I wanna bludgeon hippies
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>>10473753

Because the job title of a police officer is someone protects all citizens and is a SERVANT of the public. SERVANT.
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Take a proper gas mask instead of the bandana, surplus Israeli civilian ones are quite cheap
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>>10473796
>being a servant
>enforcing the law
Pick one.
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get a toy gun that looks real. Paint the little orange part on the end black. Shove it into your waistband so everyone can see the handle sticking out.
Then yell at cops. They will grab you and disarm you, but I think it is still legal to walk around a city with a toy gun. Riots will escalate....you will be the star of the party
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>>10473836
the one in green
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>>10473836

Is that too complicated for you to imagine?
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>>10473796
They are a minion of the state. Nothing more.
Certainly not your fucking servant.

It's meaningless what you think they "should" be.
The police are compelled into a certain behavior by the racial realities of the city.
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>>10473839

It isn't, it's illegal. My father was a cop and so is my cousin. That may be reason for them to shoot you in this day and age.
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>>10473644
they aren't that loud
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>>10473883

Oh it's not what I say they should be, it's literally the reason they were created in the first place.
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>>10472885
And live under the threat of private tyranny instead, genius. Why hasn't anyone else thought of this?
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>>10473839
Lol, you're a fucking idiot, that will get you shot. Argue whatever you want about the legality, but that is a straight up terrible idea.
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>>10473901

If you're talking about the dry ice bombs and just misquoted, I can tell you they definitely are. Do it with soda or seltzer. They will sound exactly like a gunshot
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>>10473892

it's illegal to walk around....with a toy gun????!!!! Seriously? WTF?

>YOU JUST MADE ME VERY SAD
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>>10473796
Got some bad news for you:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia

>police do not have a duty to provide police services to individuals
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>>10473953

It is if they are made to look real, yes.
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>>10473953
>Get a realistic looking toy gun
>Rob a shop
>Get arrested, charged with armed robbery
>"But officer, it's just a toy! lololololol You can't arrest me for having a toy!"
And that's when they taze you and haul you before a judge for armed robbery.
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new idea.....make a giant pinata gun....fill with candy and toys (not toy guns) ...carry it around and when police start beating you, use the pinata as a defensive item.
When the police hit it, treats for everyone
>They will put you on national news for this
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>>10472577 (OP)

>What should i bring?
>Water, Food

Well duh.

>Spraypaint, Paintbombs

Oh grow the fuck up. The better thing to bring would be a FUCKING GUN. Keep this in mind kiddo. It takes. ONE. Gunshot to turn that into a complete bloodbath. Those police have no problem with curb stomping each and every one of you.

A gunshot is the excuse for them to do it without being demonized in the news.

>Bandanna soaked with vinegar

Go for it. Try buying some Sudecon wipes. They work better and also keep in mind that milk helps with that as well.

>>Piece of paper with dedicated legal team/number for the demo just in case

Yes

>Black clothing with mask (if your a part of that)

As long as you don't wear a faggy Fawkes mask, go nuts.

The thing you really need to bring is protective gear and at least a small fire arm.

Remember what kind of smelly anarchist hippies were around Occupy and keep in mind that you will be around nothing but them.

It is my two cents that peaceful protest has NEVER worked. You ALL should have a gun. If the protesters suddenly pulled out guns and pointed them at the pigs, they would shit themselves. Sure they would take out some of you. But a flash mob of hundreds, maybe thousands?

Frankly you kids have no idea how to handle revolutionary over throws of police. You're all too scared to do so. All it would really take to annihilate a police barricade is to stand on the roof of a 3, 4 story building and toss a grenade in with them.

What are they going to do? They won't be looking for a grenade. They will probably think of the hippies threw a rock at them. By the time they think that, it'll be too late.

You kids are pussies and will never step up to over throwing these assholes, but you will continue to fantasize about it with your "peaceful protests" as they continue to mace and beat you.

As you were.
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>>10473649

>Being this stupid

OP flat out said he is against the state and their police force. Do you even into reading comprehension?
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>>10473435
Fuck ancaps. I'm no capitalist.
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bring a knife and stab people when you are in a packed crowd, it will be funny
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>>10473112

>Ben Garrison

Holy fuck i'm in tears!
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new idea.....bring a toy grenade
when police approach, throw it at them
they will hesitate long enough for you to get away

>is there a law against a toy grenade, too???
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>>10474150
this
/thread
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>>10473557
http://www.answercoalition.org/nyc/assets/feb-23-stop-the-cops-flyer.pdf
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>>10474081
>It is my two cents that peaceful protest has NEVER worked. You ALL should have a gun. If the protesters suddenly pulled out guns and pointed them at the pigs, they would shit themselves. Sure they would take out some of you. But a flash mob of hundreds, maybe thousands?
You mean a group of untrained, scared idiots who will probably shoot each other more than directing any fire at the groups of armoured riot cops (who most likely would have no qualms about downing the lot of them with their superior weapons).
That said, yea, they should go for it so the peasant rabble get thinned out some.
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>>10473698
Hey, we need something to do at night too.
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>>10474081
So why aren't you out there doing a Dorner?
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>>10472655
>The march is against Stop and Frisk and brutality.
Oh okay, fair enough, that is pretty ba-
>Personally, I'm against a monopoly state police force.
CRAWLING INNNN MY SKIINNNNN!!
THESE WOUUUUNDS THEY WIIIIILL NOT HEEEAAAALLLL!!!
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>>10474123
Then what? You abolish the state, you get rid of the police and...
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>>10474182
Yes, there is.
Dickhead.
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>>10474223

police officer detected
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>>10474243
create a new state
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>>10472803
>non-capitalist
>free market
Pick one

>slavery
>freedom
Pick one
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>>10472803
>I want to live in sub-Saharan Africa and be ruled by warlords!
You can get a plane ticket to Somalia you know.
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>>10474266
Right... with no police force?
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>>10472885
>Nah I would just enjoy my life hiding in fear from roving militia bands that might think my clothes look better then theirs
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>>10474320
no, we will need that to enforce the laws
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>>10474081
I don't believe in a policy of exclusive pacifism. I think every situation deserves a different kind of tactic. There will be a time for violent revolution, but the time is not now.
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>>10474222

If something that extreme actually happened there would probably be a lot of pant shitting by higher ups. Some investigations and changes related to whatever pushed people far enough to do that would probably occur. Not that anyone involved would benefit, being dead and all. But it might improve things slightly for some of us.

So yeah, please suicide by cop OP.
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>>10474238
for some reason my sides are near alpha centuari now.
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ok, ok......wear a burqa
carry a sign saying police are unfair to muslims
bring a toy ant-aircraft missile
aim the missile at police while screaming "Allah Akbar"
laughs will be had by all!
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>>10474243
Later you could always institute some position with similar functions to the police but they'd actually be accountable to the community instead of to themselves alone.
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>he thinks non-violent protests change anything
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>>10474383
my fucking sides
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>>10472577 (OP)

OP, you are really overdoing it. I used to be very active in the protest scene and even if you're being super cautious, all you need is a vinegar-soaked cloth, a lawyer/legal team's phone number and an odwalla bar. Remember, if shit gets out of hand and you're in the thick of it, you don't want to be weighed down by a bunch of ridiculous supplies. You also don't want to be snagged by a cop while you're carrying spraypaint or even worse, paintbombs. Very bad idea OP. If you want to do some vandalism, do it on your own or as part of a very small group, ideally covertly. Don't get a bunch of people and yourself arrested for dumb faggotry. That being said, if shit does escalate to full-on riot levels (like the anti-WEF protests did in 2002 in NYC: http://archive.org/details/WEF_Protest), by all means, take advantage of the chaos and break tear it the fuck up. Those protests were amazing, because there were over 100,000 of us flooding the streets. Starbucks windows were shattered, car windows were broken, cops were spit on, people climbed lamposts and yes, eventually there were mass arrests.

Signed,
ex-ELFer
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>>10474367
Of course there would be pant shitting, but the result of those soiled trousers would most likely be heavily enforced police state or V for Vendetta situation because the people have proven themselves to be unruly rabble.
The "higher ups" aren't going to walk away because some hippie fucktards started firing at a riot, they're just going to make life harder for those left behind.
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>>10474344
So we've abolished that state and police force, and set up a new state with a police force.

A wonderful initiative, I support you all the way.
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>>10472577 (OP)
I would bring a reinforced hamster ball with air tanks.
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>>10474208

>138 and 3rd

LOL NO THANKS

nigga you gonna need the police there
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>>10474238
lol'd
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>>10473746


I am assuming the tards using it will read the instructions first.. 90% of people wont know what anaphylactic shock means... Nor will they be arsed to find out.
If a person has severe breathing difficulties (yes anaphylaxis) it is unlikely you will worsen the condition with one shot of adrenaline.

Ps: In Oz they apparently got about 100 GPs to try and administer an epi-pen properly.

Fail rate of about 50%, plus there were 5 that would have ended up injecting themselves (in the thumb) if they had been using a full applicator...
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>>10472577 (OP)
Bring lunch, probably your favourite sandwich + snacks, and a hot drink, find somewhere to sit and eat it, savor it and don't make a fuss. Make sure you're being filmed in case an officer gets up in your grill but otherwise just enjoy your day out with your lunch.
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>>10472577 (OP)
What's the name of the rally? I'm active in things like this, but I don't have anything on my facebook events. I have a lot of people who would invite me to these things.
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get toy money
mix with some real money
throw wads of cash at the police
people will knock over police trying to get the money
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>>10474461

> heavily enforced police state

Extremely expensive and resource taxing. Not worth doing over one incident. Way easier just to allow for a couple almost meaningless concessions.
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>>10474589
You're right. Over one incident it would be largely ignored. Maybe a bit more of a police presence in the afflicted area (curfew and random searches, etc.). But i guess it'd take a few before martial law happened.
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>>10474208
>>10474572

Same person.

Yeah, they're not really anything. Nothing will happen. Look out for rallies hosted by the following

>Malcolm X Grassroots Movement
>Picture the Homeless
>CUNY group hosted stuff
>Anything you know that will bring out A LOT of people.

Also, 138th and 3rd. Give it 20 years because SURE IS GENTRIFICATION
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>>10472885

>Someone trying to break into my house
>Rush to the phone
>1-800-GLOOMBERG
>Hold a bit for my turn
>"Gloomberg Private Security Contracting, how can I help you?"
>Someone's breaking into my house! My address is ______
>"Please hold while we verify your account details."
>Wait
>"Sir it seems you do not have the rapid response package tied to your account. Your request has been put into our queue and a Security Officer will be in there in 3-5 business days."
>Turn around
>My house is devoid of all my belongings
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>>10474667
>http://www.answercoalition.org/nyc/assets/feb-23-stop-the-cops-flyer.pdf
And again the same person


10/10 I didn't read. Say hi to the Maoist Student groups for me.
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get one of these shirts
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>>10474717
Yeah, but I own a gun so I use it to defend myself in that scenario.

If the person bursts in an kills you there's nothing anyone can do about it. You have to be responsible for your own well being in a situation like that.
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fat burglar
couldn't fit through windows
couldn't outrun police

Now large sugary drinks are outlawed
the burglar lost weight and is successful in his craft

Thanks Mayor!
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>Black-bloc

YEAHHHH SON! SMASH THE WINDOW OF THAT PRIVATELY OWNED DELI AND DECONSTRUCT THE POLICE STATE! YEAAHHHH
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>>10474779

I hope you renewed your Gloomberg & Associates Personal Home Protection Firearm License.
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>>10472577 (OP)

I'll see you there.

>Accidental /pol/ meet up
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>>10474753
Enjoy getting shot.
>Why'd you ventilate him?
>I thought he had a gun, look at this shirt as evidence
>Yup, you reacted reasonably, but go have some vacation time to deal with the stress of removing one tard from the world
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>>10474437
>Starbucks windows were shattered, car windows were broken, cops were spit on, people climbed lamposts

You guys were the true revolutionaries.
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>>10474861
>Candeisha Mills

Niggers attending/10
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So what is the ultimate goal of this rally? What is your ideal outcome?

Or is it just one of those things where people stand around and complain about things without having any solutions in mind which ultimately leads to nothing happening. Just like that occupy shit.
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>>10474561
>it is unlikely you will worsen the condition with one shot of adrenaline.

But people panic and if it 's injected in the wrong place, it will kill.

The GP thing doesn't surprise me, I know from experience to only trust certain types of medical professionals in a trauma situation.
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>>10474506
Heh, yeah, up there you're safer on the police side of things.
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>>10473617

Stop and frisk isn't checking if he has plans for a violent crime.
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>>10475004
Maoist Vanguard Red Army alert
Do not reply to socialist
sage sage sage!
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>>10475106
We intend to intimidate the Maoists with a heavy anarchist presence.
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>>10475004

Occupy was fine. It was lousy with agents and the media mangled the message. The occupiers are only guilty of being too naive to think that they wouldn't be infiltrated and that when they said stuff the media would report it. They should have been able to redress that balance using social media, but they didn't. It just didn't take off in that way.

The Tea Party is the example to learn from. They began as astroturf, but they basically took over for themselves and got shit done.

If Tea Party and Occupy had just joined forces, and they agreed on the essentials, then we'd have seen some cool shit.
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>>10474363

People have been saying that for ages. It is an excuse for the weak who are too afraid to over throw the wicked.

What are you going to do? Wait for them to take ALL your weapons away and have a machine gun shoved up your ass until you say "it's time to revolt against these pigs"?

News flash. They are already shooting you morons up without missing a beat or being punished for it.
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>>10475212
I think the occupy thing failed more or less because they tried to be too inclusive and failed to get a real message across in a coherent way, you need a manifesto before you do serious campaigning.
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>>10474861
Word. I'll be the dude with the black flag. Anybody else here that feels like showing up and outnumbering the Maoist dipshits should come on out.
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>>10475302
Maoist secret police

>whoa shocker
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>>10475274
FBI pls go
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God damn it, I wish I could come. I live in upstate, but I have no moni.

Is there going to be a live stream, or some sort of street came we can watch?
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>>10475429
Probably not. But come to May day in a couple of months. That will be worth it.
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>>10475429
There will be youtube videos

>>10475412
Can you just tell me who (group) you're associated with? I feel like I should know you.
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>>10475296

Every movement has an argument between pragmatism and principles. They believed, as a principle, in all inclusive governance, and so unless the pragmatists are able to argue that point down at the very start, they have a huge weak-point for the rest of the movement. And if the pragmatists split off, this has the side-effect of concentrating the noisy, inneffective principled, and the quiet, brooding pragmatists, in their respective camps. Like the hippies and the Weather Underground, maybe. Like MLK and X.

I think a lot of pragmatists who agree with Occupy wouldn't be the kind of people who'd join it. They are in the same position as the Occupiers, they have the same exact set of views about big business and big government collusion ruining their chances in life, but they're already doing something about it. The internet especially has given us an outlet for something like that. Historically, the pragmatists would be spinning their wheels just waiting for a movement to come along that they can believe in. Now, they can find whatever movement they want on the internet. And so now who is left to join Occupy? The kind of people who just wish life was better, know what that situation would look like, and maybe even have a plan to do it, but not the kind of people who can make real hard decisions. Decisions that would make people hate you if they didn't already respect you, the kind of decisions you have to make if you want to run a successful movement.
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>>10472577 (OP)
Bring a waterbottle of piss
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The Ironic Part is that most of these faggots marching might be against stop and frisk, but a lot of them probably support an AWB.
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>>10473953
If you paint the orange tip black it is. That's why the tip is orange in the first place.
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>>10475063
No, it's trying to take guns and sometimes people off the street before they can be used in violent crimes,
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>>10475659
So why not get a real gun and paint the tip orange?
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>>10475344
You know what? All of the sudden I want to attend. Not to protest the cops, but to side with the anarchists against the Maoist assholes.
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>>10475681
Same deal, i think. You can still be booked/tazed.
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>>10475681
That's actually an extra-special crime. I think they get you for an extra charge if you do that.
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>>10475505
>>10475505
I'm not associated with any actual affinity groups at the moment. I use the internet to organize, but I've been lone wolfing shit mostly.
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>>10475662

But it mostly catches drugs. You will find drugs wherever you look for them. The businessman could easily have some coke on his person, and if they sopped and frisked on Wall Street they'd find plenty of drugs. But they do it in the ghetto, because of guns, and this has the side-effect of putting a lot of kids into the criminal justice system, disproportionate compared to other neighbourhoods.

And I'm pretty sure it's unconstitutional.
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>>10472577 (OP)
>>Spraypaint
>>Paintbombs

so you're just a dumb kid looking to cause trouble and be edgy?

Rally, protest, fight for your right, fine, but what is the fucking purpose of shitting up your streets by throwing paint around?
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>>10475770
That always bothered me. How is it so "row row fite tha powa" when you're just making the place ugly and messy?
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>>10475770
For policecars
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>tfw we'll never get to drag the police, politicians and corrupt businessmen out into the streets and shoot them while this song is playing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVdVTVR-j0Q
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>>10475806
The black bloc doesn't damage small businesses. Only corporate chains that can easily pay. The idea is to send a message.
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>>10475814
So that they have to promote carwashing businesses? I guess that's pretty smart.

>>10475846
The message that the employees of that place have to clean up the building for no extra pay?
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>All these Stalinists and Maoists
>No other Titoists

Tito was here. Dickbag Mustache and Ching Chong Ding Dong are faggots.
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>>10475891
Sometimes affiliated groups will come in the day after to help out the wage slaves.
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>>10475814
So you're just asking to be arrested. What is the point of even going to the rally? Just go to your nearest police station right now and start on their car/building with a baseball bat. save yourself some time
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>>10475929
I can't think of anything more pointless then.
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>>10475846

^ This

Do you think standing around with a bunch of signs is going to do anything? You have to get your hands dirty.

That's why the occupy movement was vastly a failure, no one really cared, and the only notable moments occurred when people stood up to the police. Videos of such incidences got shit tons of attention.

People need to grow a backbone. Minor vandalism is just the first step, and it is mostly harmless.
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>>10472577 (OP)
>Wear a thong
>shave your entire body
>write fuck the police on chest and back
>insert butt plug
>Stand in front of crowd
>see what happens
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>>10472577 (OP)
I HOPE YOU NEVER LOSE YOUR SENSE OF WONDER
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>>10475681
Let's play the Is It Illegal game!
10 is the gun real?
Y - Yes, it's illegal!
N - Goto 20

20 Does it look real?
Y - Yes, it's illegal!
N - Goto 30

30 Were you using it like someone might use a real gun?
Y - Yes, it's illegal!
N - Goto 40

40 Does the cop feel like taking you to jail?
Y - Yes, it's illegal!
N - Nope, not illegal.
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>>10475913
>Market Socialism

HUEHUAHUEHUA

>>10475974
>What is a show of solidarity to build with others

>>10475998
They didn't build with the community. Well, the majority of them didn't. The few people who actually did shit from occupy saved houses from being foreclosed and shit like that
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>>10475998
>implying that the most effective protesters of the 20th century (e.g. MLK, Gandhi) weren't peaceful and threw paint hurrdurr
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>>10476183
Not all of us can be Ghandi. That's why he's fucking Ghandi, not just a smelly hippy.
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>>10475296
pic related
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>>10472577 (OP)

How about you stop being a shitty punk.... and bring:

1. Suit and Tie
2. Gas Mask
3. bullet proof vest (pretty sure they are legal in nyc)
4. A copy of the constitution

5. don't target businesses, you shit.
6. don't burn cars you shit
7. Don't look like an idot to play into the medias hands
8. don't cry like a baby when you get hit with a baton and rubber bullets .. you asked for it.

Also, bullet proof vest + crime =more time

ONE MORE TIME STOP WEARING FUCKING HOODIES>>> wear a suit.
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>>10476183

You can't start a revolution over night, steps must be made.
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Whos down for a Anti Cop rally in Sydney Australia
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>>10476284
Agreed. I'm against oppression as much as the next leftist, but identity politics can get out of control.
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>>10472655

Maybe to should show the police how the system harms them as well and get them on your side instead of protesting them?

That would be too much work right?
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>>10476284
But you do realize the only legit People of color group in OWS was APOC, right? Those white bitchy feminist and fake people of color were sellout, shills and agents.
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>>10476333

Starts a moment 6+ months in advance and dedicate all of your time to spreading the word to as many places as possible.
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>>10472577 (OP)
Nunchuks, throwing stars, katanas, smoke bombs and a grappling hook.
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>>10476284
This is why the US will never have a large scale revolt. The media has convinced everyone that the real issues to get upset over aren't oppression or corruption, it's idiotic flavor of the month crap like fat acceptance or trans bullshit or feminism.

Keep the people bickering over insignificant shit and the living gods can keep making themselves more powerful.
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>>10476374
And yet they're the ones who got attention.

Squeaky wheel etc etc

If only everyone BUT identity politics faggots were to be given megaphones. Instant improvement.
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>>10476359
Police are so entrenched in their belief in the system that most attempts to reach them fail. But if it ended up working, that would be awesome. Imagine half a line of riot police dropping their shields and joining the other side.
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>>10472577 (OP)
A camera
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>>10472729

OH and 100 times this right here... the violent ones, are usually FBI or police.... you can tell because they will be buff as fuck and yelling about breaking shit
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>>10474717

>Security Officer will be in there in 3-5 business days

you mean as opposed to the 11-20 min it normally take the police to show up?

I'll take a gun thank you.
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>>10474753

make sure you tuck it in you pants for maximum effect lol
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>>10476426
>>10476416
But in all seriousness, people should stop giving a fuck about trans people. Nobody has to love them, just accept that people will do what they do and stop giving a fuck. The amount of hate they get for no reason is unreal.
about trans people.
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I hope they throw you in jail for a long time.
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>>10476416
Pretty brilliant, huh?
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>>10476522

Trigger discipline. Nevar forget.
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>>10476426
OWS also fucked up when they used Consensus/Modified Consensus.

Anarchist principles work within a community, not a makeshift college liberal jerkfest
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>>10476428

Ya, but oath keepers has been successful.
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>>10476544
Thing is, your average Joe probably doesn't even know about transfags, or any other speshul snowflaek groups. You're only hearing from the vocal minority.
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>>10476522
I remembered my training and called my parents.
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If you're going to go to a protest, don't go in thinking you're going to accomplish anything. You won't. Go in with the intent of having a damn good time.

The ideal protest for fun exists in a midpoint between a boring march and a full scale riot. Marches are no fun because nothing happens and it's just a circlejerk, and massive riots aren't fun either because you'll very likely get hurt. Riots CAN be fun, but you have to prepare for them and go in expecting a riot. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about fun.

The key is to have enough violence that the cops start getting involved but not so much that they take it seriously. At any situation like this, everyone present is going to be wanting a ruckus, so all you need to do is give them a reason to do it and mob mentality will do the rest.

Want to get people panicing? Start yelling at cops, wait for the crowd to get into it, fade back a bit, then drop a smoke bomb. Just a smoke bomb from a fireworks store. Yell "THEY'RE GASSING US!!" or something similar and run like hell. Enjoy the panic.

Get some firecrackers together, wrap them in something mostly fireproof, give them a long fuse, then put paper mache all around it and paint it greyish black. It now looks like a rock, but explodes! Throw it into the cops, they'll think it's a rock and think nothing of it, then a minute or so later it'll go off. There'll be enough of a time lapse that they won't be able to connect it to you, and it'll scare the crap out of them.
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>>10476544
The same with females. Either that stereotypical feminist is propaganda or they're from the in-the-middle-of-nowhere-liberal college.
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Why are you going to an anti-police rally?
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Hey OP! you should check out Copblock.org, it's a pretty good website with some good info.

it might help at the protest.
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>>10476544
>for no reason
Oh it has a reason. Give the goyim something to get upset about that isn't the red, white, and blue cock in their ass.
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A map.
If you don't know the lay of the land you can end up in some really bad situations. You might not know which way to run when the kettling starts.
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>>10476166
>AHUEHUEHUEHUE

Wut
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>>10476677
Stop 'Stop and Frisk' rally

>Cop checks niggers and spicks (97% of stop and frisk were people of color) for "suspected weapon"
>Finds marijuana
>LolTicket and Jail
>Nigger/spick life ruined
>this times 90k times in NYC
>Crime goes down by an incredibly small percent.
>Instills fear into niggers and spicks
>Violates basic rights

Any questions?
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>>10476856

>niggers and spics
>basic rights

What are you doing on /pol/?
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Op, bring dildos and throw them at the cops when they throw shit at you.
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>>10476856
Just touch them back.
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>>10476856
>Cop checks niggers and spicks (97% of stop and frisk were people of color) for "suspected weapon"
>LolTicket and Jail
>Nigger/spick life ruined
>Instills fear into niggers and spicks

What's the problem

>inb4 shitskins are people too
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>>10476942
Assaulting a police officer, 10-20 years in jail.

You dare lay your filthy hands on a god, peasant?!
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>>10476856
>stop and frisk on niggers/spicks
find something illegal on them 90% of the time
>Nigger/spick life ruined
they ruined their own life
>Instills fear into niggers and spicks
i dont see a problem with this
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Sigh, you really want to have fun?

Get eleven pigs- actual pigs. Number them 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, and 12. Grease the hell out of those pigs, then set them loose in public buildings.
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>>10477031
it'll take a crane to get em out
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>>10476856
Thanks for answering. I was just curious. By the way, I'm going to a rally this saturday in NYC against people who call african americans the n-word.
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>>10477017
Just a little caressing
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>Anti-police rally

Does absolutely nothing.
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>>10477052
>against people who call niggers , niggers.
>they call themselves niggers all day erry day
>a rally against blacks
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>>10477082

>stimulates the corneal nerves
>tfw LASIK surgery has made me extremely resistant to tear gas
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>>10476942
10/10 idea, I would shot though
>>10476905
I get bored at night. The statistics of white being superior are hilarious. The rational for your guys beliefs are even more hilarious. I try to create rifts between the /pol/ white right (Libertarians, National Socialist). I also try to get people into the to think radically (radical - From the room, radical thinking- thinking at the root of the problem) I also like Anteater and some of the other trips.
>>10476970
>I hate people who arent white because they are bad!!11!111!!!!!
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>>10477082
>sitting around like a bunch of hippies and getting beaten with night sticks is the only way to be heard

yeah nah government only recognizes power, if you want to change the system you have to fight for it

Occupy Failstreet doesnt know shit about protesting
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alright
find an attractive woman
tell her you think she is packing heat
stop her and frisk her
touch her private parts

>call it a citizen's "stop and frisk"
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get a toy cop
stand in front of real cops
beat the hell out of the toy cop
curse at the toy cop

>is THAT illegal?
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>>10477358
No, but i bet they'd find it pretty funny, and thank you for bringing some levity to the moment.
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>>10477064
Nothing could be worse than violating the divine aura of the most holy police. You will be punished worse than a thief who breaks into someone's house and steals all the jewelry.

HE only violated some disgusting plebian-hut. YOU disrespected the greatest being alive.
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>>10477192
So, an actual (Insert name) internet defense soldier. And you would come out like that?
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>>10477451
Just butt pats and penis fondling, thats all!
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>>10474465
>>10474320
>>10474243

>2012
>believing police have always existed and have historically been a force of good
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>>10472577 (OP)
black bloc and antifa are government provocateur groups
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Keep a small bottle of acetic acid with you. That way you can douse yourself if you get gassed.
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The most important thing you can bring to any anti-state protest is a good crowbar. Once the agent provocateurs and/or mentally slow Black Bloc heroes make the shit hit the fan, you make sure you smash up as many convenience stores, restaurants, and other businesses that appear to be family-owned.

I'm not sure what this accomplishes, but having witnessed several anti-G8/G20/IMF/EU riots in my time, this seems to be customary.
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>>10477052
not trolling softly enough
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>>10478248
>destroying small business instead of corporation property

good advice for helping push state agenda
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>>10476333
yeh nah fuck that
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A boombox.

http://youtu.be/Idd_P8SxqWI?t=1m20s
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Bring something to kill yourself with
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>>10472817
Do something productive instead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEb7oqzaKhw&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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>>10472753
>I want to have murder with OP

Shiggy
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>>10474238
i don't know why this is so funny
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>>10478674
> wants more socialism
> gets private property reactions
pick 2
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>>10475757
Tough. Don't carry drugs on you in the ghetto. Isn't it common sense?

http://theerant.yuku.com/reply/598750/Mayoral-Campaign-Will-Focus-on-Cops-and-Race-NAACP#reply-598750

Should give a better idea. tl;dr problem is sqfs used as a "performance indicator" for nypd to show city govt. they're doing "something" to stop crime.
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>>10480052
To add, its pretty much a "top-down" problem not so much as it is within the department itself as a consequence of City Government overtly relying on CompStat as a gauge for crime rate and the performance of the police force.

also
>mfw the threads/posts by retired and current NYPD are 90% identical to the stuff I see on /pol/


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