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How can we save Generation Z? They're still moldable.

How can we red pill them? They're so distracted and plugged in I'm afraid they'd only demonstrate apathy even if you showed them exactly the true reality.

This goes deeper than "Fuck the #yoloswag tweeters". We're seeing how the generations are being kept in a bubble. I'd even go as far as saying there's an "Entertainment Industrial Complex" that is used to bury our heads in the sand. I'm only 21 but I feel as if pop music has taken a weird turn. Its always been shitty, no doubt about that. But what is it saying? "We're gonna die young", "fill a swimming pool full of liquor than you dive in it". Most contemporary prole-feed music is just about getting wasted and general hedonism. I'm no crew cut christian conservative either. Are they telling young people to drink and turn a blind eye? I think instead of us looking down on them for being sucked into this #yoloswag crap, we help them. We resent the Baby Boomers for looking down on us, lets reverse things (and have them join us and the younger Gen Xers in the fight against the Boomers, our plutocratic, ZOG, lobbied illegitimate government).

And to set the record straight.

1945-1965-Baby Boomers (Woodstock)
1966-1984-Generation X (Cobain suicide)
1985-2000-Generation Y (9/11)
2001-2021-Generation Z (Creeping Fascism, #swag)

X,Y,and Z are Millennials
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Do nothing.

You base your entire question on the assumption that they're worth saving. Arguably, they are absolutely not.
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more like generation wh'Y' bother, amirite?

goddamn I hate my society.
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>>10910622 (OP)

Wait a while and let them destroy society. serious.

China will eat them alive. Everyone else should immigrate out of here or secede.
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Bring back all the important and relevant trends and fads we had during our youth.
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Do you think it is Z for a reason?
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>>10910770
Hopefully
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2021-2039 Generation VR

First generation of Americans (and humanity) that came of age in a mostly Virtually engineered environment. The group is marked substantially by unhealthy individuals who stay plugged in, rarely leaving their simulated realities to engage in the world their predecessors lived in. When unplugged they are often "detached" and socially defective. Generation VR is noted to also have a contrary view on morality as compared to their parents. Discerning the boundless false reality with no consequences has proven difficult for young people today trying to live an organic life.
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damn kids! with their goofy hair and bad music...
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>>10910622 (OP)

>Cobain suicide
You best be joking nigger.
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>>10910891
What's a better defining moment for Gen X? The Challenger crash? MTV premiering? Berlin Wall?
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>>10910847
I'm ready.
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Say what you want, but those pants are going to be the pants to have.
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>>10911029
>implying every Gen X'er listened to Nirvana.
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I despise my own generation. The whole attitude and lack of morals is disgusting to me, and they always seem to be waiting for the next big thing to come along; be it that Gangnam Style shit or that retarded nigger monkey shuffle they do.
Do I count?
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>"fill a swimming pool full of liquor than you dive in it

the kendrick lamar song is intended to condemn alcoholism and binge drinking. the kesha song is kind of creepy though
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>>10911029
How about the fall of communism? That's arguably the most influential happening in their days.
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>>10910622 (OP)
It kind of looks like he's wearing a diaper.
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To merge one's own attraction towards narcissism and consumption with a media-industrial complex that profits from the same, that is the goal.

Blame the generation above them that cared more about making bucks than actually leaving the Earth in the hands of a competent successor.
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>>10910622 (OP)
generation Z started in 95 op. keyswords are: cant remember Y2K, 9/11, Dial up, VHS
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everything considered "cool" or "stylish" now a days is a copy cat of the thing before it. there's no originality in anything. all songs contain samples, all clothing and fashion is formed & copied from already successful brands. social media is ruining younger minds, i believe. twitter and stupid shit. giving younger generations the idea that "anything is ok to say, because #yoloswag"
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>>10911333

is that niggers neck wider than its head?
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>>10910622 (OP)
Remember when guys like this were the ones that the young kids thought were super cool?

I'll take the leather and long hair over the faggotry of today.
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#Fuckplebs
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>>10910622 (OP)
x was alright
y is half and half
z sucks MEGA shit

>can't break my swag

gen y and x are now adapting z culture because that is what is being marketed now.
obviously fight club and history on the history channel didn't sell well.
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>fill a swimming pool full of liquor than you dive in it

That song isn't about hedonism. It's about the consequences of alcoholism you fucking pleb.
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>>10911396
fuck metallica. only guys in their 40s still like that shit
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This thread reeks of try hard edginess

Every generation says HURR MINE IS BEST AND THE ONE AFTER IS SHIT

Grow the fuck up
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>yfw you realize that people born in 1995 are turning 18 this year
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I caught a glimpse of the Grammy's back in December, closed captioning was on, I sat and watched one of the performances, and the lyrics were exactly like you said, "I just wanna be nuh~umb~" etc.

It was truly disturbing, since I cut off television in 2001, and radio entirely (I only listened to talk radio, but clear channel owns everything so fuck that) 3 years ago.

Mainstream media is poison for the mind and soul.
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>>10911487
Now this guy knows what the fuck he is talking about.
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>>10911452
z is an abortion of the good qualities of y and x.

In fact this was done on purpose to be "ironic" per the hipster culture/philosophy.

so basically everything that made gangsters cool back when tupac and biggie were alive is gone and now only what makes them FUCKING annoying and stupid remains.

in fact that is the same treatment Z gave ALL cultures prior to it's own, and Frankenstein an abortion of a culture together because YOLO
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Well hopefully there will be another World War in the next 20 years so these faggots get conscripted and gunned down.
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>>10911396
I'll take this over both your faggy-ass "styles"
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>>10911487
If you read my post you stupid nigger you'd know that I'm trying to help and NOT look down on them.
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>>10910622 (OP)
>How can we save Generation Z? They're still moldable.

Gen Z is already on here, shitting up the place. They're probably the ones spamming red pill shit all over the place
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>>10911569
>Mainstream media is poison for the mind and soul.

>he says this as he browses 4chan

lel
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>>10911487
no
hippies were fucking stupid but had great music
beetneck were alright all around
the 80s were meh and their music was a novelty see safety dance
90s were the children of the 70s literally, but lived in an 80s world
the early 2000s were alright but fuck no the culture of todays youth is dumb as fuck

just distill all the bad qualties of the others and put them together.

that's what being a YOLO SWAG TROLL HIPSTER LE MEME INTERNET IS COOL is all about. be a huge faggot and ask if they are frustrated.

The CRIME is that this "counter culture" is really funded and prepurated by THE SYSTEM because IT SELLS to make your customers stupid and then sell them more stupid like controlling supply and demand.

so you are just wrong
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Man, even the rock & roll and PUNK are fucking pussy ass shit nowadays. What happened to rock bands chucking TV's out of windows, snorting blow off of hookers, and all the crazy shit that separated the men from the pussies? Fucking nanny state bred Gen Z, now we get to deal with it.
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>>10911569
How edgy of you. Ever stop to think that few, there's more out there than the top 100?
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>>10911674
Give them another two years. That's when we'll start seeing a lot of the Gen Z 15-year-old faggots.
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>>10911723
So you base your opinions of everyone on some dumbasses on twitter? What if I judged the UK based on the posters on /sp/? It's just vocal morons you faggot.
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>>10911643
you should look down on them

im only in my early twenties and very close to this crap in my every day life, it's fucking stoopid.
>>10911723
>>10911572
>>10911452
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>>10911487
I was born in 91 and I think a large majority of my peers at the tail end of Gen Y are abunch of fucking idiots. I remember back in grade 8 when greendays american idiot came out and every girl in school went around spewing "ZOMGZ BILLAY JOE SOO HAWTS!!1!!1!ONE!" but im starting to believe its getting especially bad now and there seems to be no light at the end of the tunnel, only more darkness... Nobody seems to want to stand up and say FUCK THIS SHIT. and start doing their own thing.
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>>10911740
Because none of that is edgy anymore, we're living in a society where the average highschool kid will fuck a dog or drink piss for a dare.
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>>10911603
This. I reckon it would push mankind forward, and force these dribbling idiots out of their bubbles.
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>>10911807
>I was born in 91

This is why /pol/ is shit.
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I'm a Y gen Majoring in economics, and I can tell you that only so many people will even listen. Most people don't even know what the hell is wrong, and it won't be possible to get through to them and save their minds until our system falls apart and they want to understand why.

Then they'll listen when you explain to them that it was set up to fail.
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>>10911786
that's right, they are just vocal morons.

Zs culture sucks and no Z should try to emulate it, because they haven't even made their own culture, they are just being sold the crap of the earlier ones and are so goddam stupid they think its cool.
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>>10911833
So what are you, like 30?
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>>10911807
So you're one of those "I'M SO SMART EVERYONE ELSE IN MY SCHOOL IS SO DUMB WHY DON'T I HAVE ANY FRIENDS OR GF ;_;" fags? Are you just sensitive? Grow the fuck up, people are immature when they're young. Just look at you.
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>>10911705

This isn't exactly mainstream media, you dunce, unless you're one of the faggots pouring tons of bullshit propaganda into it.
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>>10911674
no they're the ones posting "lel soo edgey ecks dee" all over the place. I cant even speak my inner thoughts of hatred on this site anymore without being called an "edgey faggot" because they dont believe anyone can harbour something thats no YOLO & SWAG
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>>10911881

And some people never grow out of it, just look at you.
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>>10911899
>This isn't exactly mainstream media

top lel
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>>10911949

This, it's a forced meme to get all the mindless children to think alike.
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>>10911955

Go on, tell me how stupid you really are, I'm waiting.
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It's a doomed generation.

Everyone thinks they're someone unique, everyone suckles from the electronic teats of false social justification. People become increasingly distant while having this delusion that they are actually close. We've told the younger ones time and time again that they're all special snowflakes; capable of great tasks in any field they desire. They run off, chasing degrees that sound cool or fun; only to find that it was an expensive, debt-hole of a waste.

Instead of falling into depression or hunting for solutions, they fall back on they crutches society can give them. Parents, social networks to cry on, systems that hand them substance even though they have failed.
It's a bitter world we've evolving into. It's easy to get distracted by the flashy technology and the bright aspects propped up around us. Masses are being guided by their emotions and feelings, blind or unwilling to hear the truth hiding in walls around them. They sit in their little drywall boxes, tinkering away, chattering. Some get menial jobs, and survive on. Some reach higher, finding themselves above their peers and laughing - all while the powers above them silently snicker at the delusion.

You can't save these people. They don't want to be saved. They don't want to listen to realities. They're happy living in a manufactured life and pay no qualms to the invisible fences guiding their milling paths.


I'm an altruist at heart. I've always been the first laugh in the face of personal risk, if it meant the reward of others. Yet, here, is the one time I think different. You save your family. Your friends. You take all those you care with you; and you forget the rest. Live a meaningful life and influence those you care for - but don't mute you fire by trying to reach out with a thousand ethereal hands. I don't have a catchy final line, make your own.
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As a generation Y

Fuck Boomers (Easy mode)
I can respect Gen X (They tried)
We're kind of shit (Overwhelming apathy towards everything)
Gen Z is too young to be evaluated (Children)
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>>10911949
Have you ever stepped foot in a school you idiot? Jesus Christ man, your perception of youth is soley based on the shit on Twitter.

KIDS ARE ALWAYS EXACTLY THE FUCKING SAME EVERY GENERATION, THERE IS NO CHANGE

Hell, they've gotten much more tolerant too. Rigidly defined cliques and shit are pretty much dead, and people don't get beat up for being gay or smart.
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As I Gen-X I get a lot of Gen Z tail.
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>>10911881
theres a difference between being "dumb" and being smart but still falling for the mindless media borg bullshit, spewing on about how some mediocre, watered down band is the greatest thing that has ever happened, just like mtv told them to.
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>>10910622 (OP)
Holy fuck. Look at that picture. The Biebz is fucking trolling HARD.
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>>10912123
swag...
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>>10912062
>KIDS ARE ALWAYS EXACTLY THE FUCKING SAME EVERY GENERATION, THERE IS NO CHANGE

No, they're not, if you weren't a child yourself you'd know this.

Do you remember school before cell phones? Before the internet?

If you did you wouldn't have said something so stupid.
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>>10911987
You stupid faggot he wasn't comparing 4chan to mainstream media. He was laughing at your dumb ass for deriding mainstream media for being poisonous for the mind while posting this on a site where people don't bat an eyelash at gore, incest, racism, and people acting like retards posting here for attention.
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>>10912027
I like your post. Stay on /pol/.
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>>10912110
Again with the edges. LOOK AT ALL THOSE POOR DELUDED MASSES I'M SO MUCH SMARTER THAN THOSE SHEEP

I wish I had that picture saved of the people on the train all thinking and calling each other sheep.
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>>10912062
then why are they killing themselves at younger ages and at higher rates?
http://www.freep.com/article/20120525/NEWS01/205250449/7-year-old-s-suicide-shocks-community
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>>10912163

That's his fault for not being clear in his 'top lel' faggotry.

I'd agree this place is poison for the mind, if you're a dipshit sponge that just absorbs everything you see without an ounce of discrimination toward falsehoods.
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>>10912209
lel
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>>10912159
I graduated in 2000 and even then only a small minority of kids had cell phones. The younger generation is definitely different than mine. Lots of the ideas that young people use to identify themselves didn't even exist when I was in school.
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This is probably my favorite YouTube video. And it relates heavily with the thread.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIDJ_g4HDeQ&t=3m23s
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>>10911477

Yeah this. It's a critique of the culture that surronds alcohol and not being able to just drink casually. Also OP if you listened to more Kendrick Lamar you would know that a good amount of his work deals with growing up as "crack babies" in the Reagan era and how most of the kids growing up in Compton and similar areas at that time used drugs and alcohol to escape their lives.

All generations hop on trends and pop culture. The difference between Gen Z and the rest is the advent of social media, which has given a lot of youth a more narcissistic personality. Emphasis on being famous or a celebrity has risen in entertainment as well. But it's not all bad. More people are going to college, new technologies are emerging, and each generation is just as capable, if not more so than the last. It's just a matter of social priorities changing with time.
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The question is, what comes after Z?
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>>10912083

Well somebody has to the those 10 year olds right?
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I have nothing in common with you scum born after 1990. Fuck off.
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>>10912262
Z 2, Z harder
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>>10912027
This post could be summarized as:
"Consumerism has destroyed community. The only path to true happiness is rejecting the material and nurturing human interaction.
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>>10912278

this.
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Has anyone posted it yet
Why the western world is dying:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_B._Calhoun#1963-1983

It was here that his most famous experiment, the mouse universe, was created.
In July 1968 four pairs of mice were introduced into the Utopian universe. The universe was a 9-foot square metal pen with 54-inch-high sides. Each side had four groups of four vertical, wire mesh “tunnels”. The “tunnels” gave access to nesting boxes, food hoppers, and water dispensers. There was no shortage of food or water or nesting material. There were no predators. The only adversity was the limit on space.

Initially the population grew rapidly, doubling every 55 days. The population reached 620 by day 315, after which the population growth dropped markedly. The last surviving birth was on day 600. This period between day 315 and day 600 saw a breakdown in social structure and in normal social behavior. Among the aberrations in behavior were the following: expulsion of young before weaning was complete, wounding of young, inability of dominant males to maintain the defense of their territory and females, aggressive behavior of females, passivity of non-dominant males with increased attacks on each other which were not defended against.

After day 600 the social breakdown continued and the population declined toward extinction. During this period females ceased to reproduce. Their male counterparts withdrew completely, never engaging in courtship or fighting. They ate, drank, slept, and groomed themselves – all solitary pursuits. Sleek, healthy coats and an absence of scars characterized these males. They were dubbed “the beautiful ones”.

The conclusions drawn from this experiment were that when all available space is taken and all social roles filled, competition and the stresses experienced by the individuals will result in a total breakdown in complex social behaviors, ultimately resulting in the demise of the population.

No mice survived.
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>>10911477

>implying kids today would even think of it that way

I dare you to go ask random teenagers what they think such songs are about, you won't be happy with the replies.
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Generation X here.

I have had to manage a couple of generation Y-ers in the IT industry. They have attention spans of 10 seconds. I literally have to follow up every single thing they do, or they fuck it up, so I often have to do it myself.

This isn't about X>Y this is about if I want something done properly I give it to someone >25. If Z is worse we're looking full social collapse without even needing muh socialism.
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As a pervert, I'm ok with it, girls these days are more sexual at a younger age, and are fucked up mentally before I even meet them, so I don't add to their instability.
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>>10912180
Second this.
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>>10912027

10/10 post anon

it was a pleasure to read
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>>10912354
wait for it.........wait for it.......... ITS HAPPENING

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbivore_men
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>>10912364
>If Z is worse we're looking full social collapse without even needing muh socialism.

I think this is the goal.

They used unprecedented violence and barbarity to pull Russia to their cause, they're using media and mind rotting propaganda to pull the US to their cause.
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generation x ended before 84
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>>10912364
My sister teaches 5th grade in a rich White area of Ohio. Most of the children are obsessed with MTV's "Buck Wild" and smirk and high-five each other when things like beer are mentioned in anti-drug classes.
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>>10912549
Yeah, I would agree. I'm '82 and only barely made it as Gen X imo. I was into Nirvana though and remember Kobain suicide with great detail.
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>>10912506
top lel
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>>10912550

Yeah, I graduated in 2004, even high school kids weren't this awful back then, this wasn't even that long ago.

I left high school just as all this shit really started to come together, I think emos were the big thing when I was finished.
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>>10912180

I've only been here for a week or two.

I live a very generic, very average life. Unemployed, but seeking. Living with parents, but paying rent when I have income, or doing various chores when I don't. Girlfriend, but distant, but we've met up a few times.


/pol/ is a depressing place for me. When I was young and stupid(er), I watched mainstream news. It got a bit same-y. It was always the same crap. It started to feel artificial. I stopped. Then I switched to internet - and you had two flavors, generic or harbingers of the end times. I avoided the latter for a bit. Somewhere in here, my father went absolutely nuts. And by nuts, I mean less crazy and more disowning all mainstream everything. He questioned everything. From a man who flew out of his seat during 9/11 to a man who now questions all the events around it in a few short years.

Through his influence, my sifting through /pol/, and other various online outlets (whatever I can find to either be chaotic or struggling to be neutral); my eyes are just barely cracking open at the world.

It fucking sucks. The older I get (I'm still young and stupid, mind you); the more I hear. The more the term "Ignorance is a Bliss" shouts at me. The real world is depressing. It's a big cultural machination of man and power; as fake and grotesque as Nicki Minaj's face. And there's no escape. You can climb up or down the ladder, but you can't leave it. There's no Earth II. There's no 'reset' button. And that scares me, to the very core. It keeps me up at night. Because the common man is trapped. You either melt into a tiny cog in this machination, or you turn into feral dust in the wilderness, to scrape a living away from others. No alternatives.

In short: Fuck this gay Earth. Sorry for the off-topic ramble; but naw, Gen Z is pretty much fucked. They're going to devolve into whatever is shaping them and there's about shit all you can do.
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>>10912159

1940 school
-You are expected to read fluently by 3rd grade
-Math to trig level by 8th grade

2012 school
-Don't care if you ever read
-Math to remedial algebra by graduation of 12th grade (they pass you whether you learned it or not)
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>>10912626
Why should children be forced to read English and taught euro-centric maths?

Did you ever ASK them if they wanted to learn how to read?
Not every culture uses written systems of communication. It's time to check your privilege before posting again.
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>>10912626

Oh I know.

When those standardized tests first rolled out, I was told by one of the vice principals that I alone raised the school's aggregate history, science, and social science scores by 3%. This was a school of 2600 kids, about 70% of which were mexicans.

I'm not even trying to toot my own horn, I think my intelligence is average, but I managed to pull that off, it made me more disappointed with my peers than happy with myself for supposedly being so smart.
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>>10912253
Watching and it's actually breddy gud
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>>10912027
>You save your family. Your friends. You take all those you care with you; and you forget the rest. Live a meaningful life and influence those you care for - but don't mute you fire by trying to reach out with a thousand ethereal hands
god damnit, this is how its supposed to BE
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>>10912698
>I am proud of being privileged
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ITT:

>everybody born a generation before or after me is an idiot
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>>10912623
>You can climb up or down the ladder, but you can't leave it.

Wrong. What do you think death is?
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>>10912626

Are you in public education? My sister is in 8th grade and is learning high-school physics right now. It seems to me it's getting more rigorous if anything. I also graduated from a public high school and it was expected that at least 80% of the kids were going to get a 4-year degree
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>>10912260
>More people are going to college

That's part of the problem
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>>10910622 (OP)
Swag
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>>10912818
That's not what I said at all
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>>10912329

I didn't want to reject consumerism at it's core, so much as things like Facebook, Twitter; the old and dead MySpace. Things that make people feel accomplished and social; when it's nothing more than bits and bytes.

Human interaction is good, by no means will I refute that. I kinda poked at higher powers at play; but what else is new? It just scares me seeing children... toddlers I should say. Kids at at age when they've only just begun to understand a language; on cellphones. On the internet. Interacting in unusual and new ways; and trying to justify themselves in an awkward void. It's a old stereotype that younger and younger kids are trying to act older and older - but if it's true, shouldn't be be concerned?

I'm not sure. This post is a bit indirect. I'm not really all that good at this. True and False Happiness mean little to me. If someone is happy doing one thing, I have little means to discourage him or her unless it is hurting others or inflicting self-damage. Blindness is what scares me. A generation that can't point to France on a map, or understand that England is not a continent. It's watching young humans become more and more addicted to outlets and products. This, of course, is all in regards to first-world countries where people have the means and money to do so. Is this what society should really be evolving into, though? Social phantoms and, yes, consumerism on lower and lower rungs of the social ladder? I guess it's just my ignorance and youth that had me thinking positive things about the human race. Once again, I'm rambling and spewing odd stuff, so forgive me if possible. Was a pleasure all, gonna pop off for a bit.
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>>10912818

Nobody is saying their generation was better than the one preceding them, JIDF

Its been a gradual downward decline from our once previous excellence for quite a while now.
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>>10912278
e-even '91?

When were you born? If its before '88 okay. Otherwise, stfu.
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>>10910622 (OP)
Save them from what?

A developed country living standard?
a 99% literacy rate?
Over-nutrition?
excess of leisure?
Luxury?
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In relqtion to the current generation I think I have something which might bring us closer to a solution.

Last year I finished my mandatory 1-year conscription in the army. I'm 25 but got my service postponed due to education.
Oldest in my platoon. The rest mainly 18 year olds...full of YOLO, swag, nigga style yo!, retards with a few basement-dwellers mixed inbetween.
A bunch of fucking misfits...

Through one year of discipline, dedication and hard work...the change was extreme...
Not one of them had the same mentality as when they entered the army. No more nigger-"culture". No more disrespectful bahavior. They "became" proper people.

Maybe not the army is the best solution in general But I think training in discipline, respect and responsibility are major factors to save the current and next generation.
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>there aren't gen Ys in here bemoaning their own studpidity
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>>10912952

Boomers got us into this mess. And Gen Z isn't up to getting us out.

Life IS better now, but we don't have as much control over it. TPTB don't mind people having stuff, so long as it is rented (directly or by debt or by service fees) or nerfed in some way (tracks you, prevents you from copying, or whatever).

Gen Z have been raised into that system of economic dependence. We can cross our fingers and hope they can hold that tiger by the tail until it tires out, but don't hold you breath as well or you'll go blue.
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>My sister is in 8th grade and is learning high-school physics right now.
Oh, physics, you must mean physically inserting non-white penises into her vagina? I'm sure shes good at calculating that?

>I also graduated from a public high school and it was expected that at least 80% of the kids were going to get a 4-year degree
And that doesn't mean anything anymore, since degrees have dropped their standards so low. Highschool 2.0, where everyone binge drinks, crams one day before tests. I know many professors who universally have to pass shitloads of failing students after their parents complain to the dean. College is all about money these days, and such they pander to the lowest common denominator.
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>>10913050

That sounds awful. Independent minded idiots turned into idiots trained to kill and follow orders doesn't seem like an improvement to me. Though I guess the truly independent wouldn't have joined up in the first place, so maybe it's no waste.
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>>10913145

You're just upset that everything doesn't fit into your pre-dystopian vision of America. You couldn't even give me a proper counter argument to public education. I do slightly agree that colleges are more business institutions than anything nowdays, but there are still usefull degrees. STEM in particular is worth it, and people still work hard.
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>>10912962
hah i thought the same thing. seems 91 is such a fringe year.
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>>10913289
As a stem major, I can vouch for colleges not giving people a free pass. The average in all of my science classes is an F.

Those people will change their major.
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>>10912253
I'm going to show this to all my friends. Ultimate red pilling stuff.
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>>10913289
Just wait until the STEM market is saturated beyond belief thanks to "hurrr if you don't go to college you're a worthless piece of shit" becoming "hurrrr only STEM's have a chance in the market now".

It's all down-hill from here, folks. I'm just praying for a happening to shut it all down and restart it, at this point.
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>>10913211
Hurf durf army is train to kill teh babbies and mindless drones in teh barinz.

Outside the liberal bubble, conscription is training in far more then "killing".
It's self defense with both weapons and yourself, it's teamwork, it's how to aid others, respond to crisis and catastrophy, both civilian and military and far more.
You can even take classes to fill you free-time.
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>>10913409
Plenty of people are still bullshit majors, and people who are going into STEM because of pressure fold anyways
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>>10913349
This, but honestly the school i go to intentionally tries to wash people out. everyone is telling me that engineering school is just a giant hazing period to see if you got the guts/brains to make it.
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>>10910622 (OP)
>How do we prevent the changes in our societies
You can't. That's exactly what we want.
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>every generation after mine is bad
>it was much better back then
>those goddamn kids and their goddamn internet
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>>10912354
How do we fix this?
War
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>>10913409

Getting a STEM degree doesn't necessarily mean you're going to join the STEM job market. A lot of physics majors end up in finance, and physics/math majors score the highest on the LSAT. It's more of the fact that people who study things like STEM or Econ have better critical thinking and problem solving skills which are an asset to any job.
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Thats at the get go, in weed-out classes as they are called. 1000's of students go through Chem1 and Econ. If you are stupid enough to fail those, then you are just plain retarded. Nobody is going to up your grade individually when dealing with such large numbers, since those courses are already so regimented to pass a certain percentage.

When it comes to other classes, the University is so invested in you that they don't want you to drop out second year or third year that they will give you grades just to get through.

Same with med school after a year or two, you just need to get C's for the rest of your education. Only people who want to be surgeons get A's.
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Baby boomers are also the biggest cause of national debt. It's scumbags like them that should be shot to save money.
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>>10910622 (OP)
that lesbian shat herself.
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>>10913555
This. WW2 shoved as many males into a death zone as possible, the beta's died leaving only the alphas to return and get shit done.
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>>10913609
>Only people who want to be surgeons outside of the military get A's

ftfy
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>>10913677
On the contrary. Modern war mowes down warriors, leaving desk jockies and cowards to survive
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>>10913762
True but military training does work a bit.. i hope for POG's.. (People Other than Grunts)
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>>10913762
agreed all the alphas go to war and die leaving the betas to stay home and populate.
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>>10913749

lol, you are so right. Army will take C level gpa surgeons all day.
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>>10913447

If they aren't, then I fail to see the point in having them. They are human sacrifices, sin-eaters, they die and they kill so everyone else doesn't have to. If you turn it into a normal career or profession, then we're in danger of becoming too comfortable in expending them whenever we have anything that even reminds us of a military problem.
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>>10910622 (OP)
>1966-1984-Generation X (Cobain suicide)

Cobain went to hell in 1994. He meant exactly jack shit to gen X.
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>>10910622 (OP)
just let them embarass themselves and hope they either die young or grow out of it

if you want to do your part to eliminate generation gay, encourage drunk driving, pointing firearm shaped objects at police, and smoking bath salts
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http://www.cbc.ca/archives/categories/society/youth/generation-x-lives-on-hold/gen-x-vs-the-boomers.html
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>>10913931

>the serpent seeks to set us free

Founding Fathers, you sly dogs.
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As a gen Y i'll give you my take: boomers you already know, x failed but had a glimpse of something going, y is apathetic and causes me shame, z is complete trash. X is the best and they have become like Y
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>>10913145
Fucking this
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Muh redpill

You stupid twats
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>>10914205
/This

OP is a stupid arrogant faggot
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Very relevant.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strauss%E2%80%93Howe_generational_theory
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I know it sounds ridiculous but most of these superstars are either directly possessed by demons or receiving their music and personae via the satanic overlords of the industry. their music and video clips are designed to make us reject God and behave in the way Satan wants us too. If you want to know more have a look at Shieldoftheson videos on youtube
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>>10916625

This is what happens when you read Crowley before you have a well developed sense of irony.
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haha wow I never knew Crowley was on /pol/s radar. I read the Romance of Sorcery years ago, holy fuck was he out there
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>>10917387

You have to get about fifty replies into an Illuminati symbolism thread before you get any good Crowley conversation. Even I can't contribute too much, it's been too long and one too many bongs since I read it.

I like the take that when he is talking about magic, he's actually referring to applied psychology. When you contact things from somewhere else, you are actually building them from nothing in your mind. It's all about learning to correlate the contents of your own mind, and how to change your mind by sheer force of will. And then how to do the same in others. I can't know what he meant without asking him and reading his responses, but from my reading, it struck me as being highly symbolic, almost satirical.
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>>10912027
God-emperor confirmed.
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>fill a swimming pool full of liquor than you dive in it
>than
and the song is about the peer pressure to drink, Kendrick is mostly sober now.
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>>10910847
>came of age in a mostly Virtually engineered environment
> group is marked substantially by unhealthy individuals who stay plugged in, rarely leaving their simulated realities to engage in the world their predecessors lived in
>VR is noted to also have a contrary view on morality as compared to their parents

pretty sure thats us
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>>10910622 (OP)
I interpreted swimming pools as anti-drinking.
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YOURE ALL SO FUCKING STUPID. HONESTLY. almost every god damn person is retarded. youre all most certainly retarded. even im retarded.
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>>10912896
Not the anon you're responding to, but besides death, there used to be a frontier you could reach with your own two legs, or failing that, several multiples of four legs and four wheels, or a wooden hull. We don't have that anymore. We've expanded to every habitable corner of Earth and firmly cemented society where it can be. Unless we want to overthrow a heavily established other, or create a means to live in Antarctica, under the sea, or in space, all of which require the will of many, many lives, you have to put up with the sacks all around you, for all their failures, shortcomings, and menaces.
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Same Pop music themes since the dawn of time. It's called marketing and why it's Pop[ular] versus Alternative, Electronic, or Bluegrass.
As for saving GenZ:
We're heading for a convergence. The Baby Boomers are the cash cow, and they are living longer and better than previous generations. So there's big money in anything that's going to keep old people healthy and happy.
Knowledge really is power. It's the availability of knowledge that creates and sustains democracy. Today you can Google any subject on your phone that previously you had to go to a library and follow one book to another just to get the same information.
Every generation has its share of mindless zombie consumers dressing and acting out whatever fad is popular, but the opportunities that exist today were pure fantasy 30 years ago. Things are changing and getting better every year, even while those who hate change do everything they can to stave it off.
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>>10912027
100/10
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>>10912027
1000/10
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>>10910622 (OP)


I was born in 1978 and I didn't give a fuck about Curt Cobain's suicide.

Why would you associate that with us?

It certainly was not a defining moment.
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>Implying Kendrick's track about 'swimming pool of liquor' isn't about alcoholism
> implying his album had any DRUGA HOS BIZNITCHES in it and it wasn't just stories about Him growing up in Compton
>no reverse racism on the album or blaming whitey either

2/10
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>>10910622 (OP)
I'm a swagfag and I'm racist as fuck.

They're just clothing trends you idiot.
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>>10925803
swagfags are pleb as fuck though

anyways i hate the dancing fads of this generation

>hey guyz do you know how to do the harlem shake lol
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>>10911788

Late 20s here. My generation was dumb as fuck when we were kids, yours is too. What's the big fucking difference? We're all dumb when we're young, we get better with age, then it all degenerates because we lose touch.

No matter what we listen to, or what we care about, it's all going to follow the same fucking pattern.

Just relax and enjoy life.
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2001-2021 is Generation i (Apple) idiot
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>>10910847
I can't fucking wait.
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>>10910622 (OP)
beiber can't sag for shit.
0/10
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>>10925692
DOMINOS NIGGA
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>>10911619
Is that your boyfriend?
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>>10910665
The only ones worth saving will save themselves. everyone else will just be cheap surplus labor.
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>>10925803
>I'm a swagfag and I'm racist

I'm very sorry for your existence
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>>10913211
It was mandatory.
And if it worked so well countries with mandatory military service would be in a golden age.
Does taking a goofy 18 year old and replacing normal age related characteristics with military discipline and a muted personality create a better individual?
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>>10912626
>muh 1940s algebra and newtonian physics
>implying it was hard

>tfw you wish you could've been in an engineering class 10-20 years ago let alone 40
>tfw
Shit sucks...coursework has gotten tedious
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>>10925803
>Hate niggers
>Imitates niggers
Ok I guess that makes tonnes of sense.
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>>10918473
So what about eating another mans semen for power gives you a psychoanalysis.
>Wut.
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>>10926348
Schoolwork is nothing but tedious today. i saw my non sped brother working on a fucking Sudoku puzzle for his algebra class once.
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>>10925803
>I'm a swagfag and I'm racist as fuck.
>lel
>SWAG #YOLO #TWITTER #IG MY SKINNIES
I'm saving this for a movie idea
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Cut off point of Generation X is dead on! 3rd day of 82 here.
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Their generation is doomed.

They are too consumed by media. Their opinions are not their own, they are products of an endless stream of bullshit fed to them through the internet. They don't care about drone strikes or the economy, they care that Michelle Obama made an appearance on a dying Nickelodeon show. It's a generation that cares only about the comfortable stories that the news and social media wants them to read, not how to exist in the real world.

Frankly, the only reason Y didn't suffer the same fate is because 9/11 and America's occupation in the Middle East force fed a lot of people a red pill.
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>>10911308

Kids from 97 remember 9/11. The may or may not have been in school, but most of the ones I talk to remember 9/11.

>inb4 perv talking to 16 year olds about 9/11
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>>10912027


his name is Robert Paulson
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Pretty much every major pop hit that wasn't about fucking or the relationships that lead to fucking were about not giving a shit about tomorrow and living for the present, ignoring the future and any problems in your life or anyone else's. Or else about how awesome it is to be rich and envied by those with less money than you, but even then, I think Kanye wrote approximately all of them.
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>>10912818

GET OFF MY LAWN!

1989 friend here

Don't you all realize that every other generation looks back on the previous one with similar distaste and contempt? Obviously not everyone feels this, but the feeling is out there.

As a Gen Y, I'm starting to really feel like my generation will finally be thrown under the bus. We might already have been. This country will have to prop itself back up on something.
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>>10913145

unless you go to a top 25 or 35 school.. dont bother with debt........ otherwise skip college and go work on an oil feild making 125 k a year ... buy a house and car after 2 years....

then fucking do what you want
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>>10926458
>Nick News?
Reminds me..What the fuck is Nick News and how does that old bitch keep popping up. Is she even on the payroll?
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>>10925803
Pleb.

>>>fa/
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>>10914294

The serpent can kill even after it's been killed. The serpent can bite even when it's head has been removed from it's body.

The serpent is dangerous, even as a corpse.
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>>10926687
dem fields pay mad dosh and it's easy as fuck to get a GREAT job
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>>10912027
but one day these people will influence governments.


what the fuck do we do then?
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>>10926700

I'm old enough to remember Nick News when it was new.

I hated that show. For some reason I felt such an anathema to it. It always felt like forced bullshit.

It was also boring as fuck, and preempted more entertaining television shows from airing.
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nigga looks like barney and shit
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The problem with the next generation is that they lack a defining crisis. Society needs to be shaken up to truly define a generation. They don't need to perceive shit the same way, but it clearly affects their world view.

The other problem is that they lack the attention span to let any of these happenings actually affect them. Kony 2012 is a shining example, but ultimately pointless. Sandy Hook became irrelevant within a month.

Generation Z is a generation of followers and sheeple, and it will stay that way until they know what it means to see your world change drastically in a single instant.
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>>10911949
>no they're the ones posting "lel soo edgey ecks dee" all over the place.

lol
i do that and am 27
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>>10912354
that's why we need to outer space.
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>>10926700

Was actually talking about iCarly, but for all I know Michelle Obama did appear on Nick News.
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>>10926814
they were saying the same thing about us (gen y) in the late nineties. then 2001 came. Gen Z will get their crisis.
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>>10910683
Same Boat
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nigga said he look like barney
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>>10910847

Damn kids with their virtual waifus! Back in my day we used imagination!
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>>10926747

That used to be the case. Drilling moratorium is wrecking the oil field right now. It's getting much more difficult to get in from the ground up than it used to be.

Fun fact: Back in the 1980s in Louisiana, many men would get in the oil field to run from the authorities. Whatever crime you committed, you could get a job that had you on an oil rig all year round, and you could evade the police this way. It didn't matter the crime, you were safe out there, so long as you never came back to civilization.
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You remember when you were a kid and you'd always hear adults of all sorts in real life and on TV talking about taking care of problems so their kids wouldn't have to grow up and deal with them? Well, they didn't get taken care of, they kind of got out of hand, actually, and we're the ones who are going to have to fix them.

If Gen Y doesn't succeed at bettering the world and balancing it out like the Greatest Generation did, humanity is fucked.
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I wish you could slap the iphone out of someone's hand without getting arrested, I think some threat of violence is the only way to deal with the problems of this generation.
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>>10926791
No, they are powerless weaklings. Governments will influence them. Find a way to take advantage of them. Be their government.
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>>10926814

Sandy Hook is still rippling through the nation. Gun control measures that make absolutely no sense are still being pushed in many states.
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Did he shit himself?
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>>10926458
>tfw none of my opinions were formed independently
>tfw just as bad as z
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>>10926859

Refer to my second line.

Any voice Gen Z might have is drowned out by a media that wants to perpetuate its own spin and a general population that's more concerned with Justin Bieber's fashion sense than anything that's truly important and world changing.

Fuck the collective consciousness, there are so many voices out there it's like a high school cafeteria.
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>tfw on the cusp of Y and Z
W-where do we 94-95'ers really fall? ;_;
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Is american idol to blame?

Everyone these days seems to be trying to become a minor self-sustained celebrity. This leads to things like endless self-promotion and admiration on sites like instagram and twitter


I think american idol had to be a contributing factor.

It's literally a show where amateur singers fight for a chance to be commercialized and devoid of all personal identity.


It had to start somewhere
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>>10926673

We've got the sweet spot of having been born early enough to remember a time before social media, and still young enough to understand it. We can also see it for what it is, without bias, because of this.

We sit between a rock, and a hard place. It's up to us to figure out how to capitalize on this. Do we form a political platform emphasizing the ability to translate between the generations before us, and after us, or do we sit and suffer in our own self-induced wallow?
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7-8 years ago when i was in middle school it was cool to listen to psychedelic rock from decades ago but now suddenly ever 12 year old listens to ganster rap and shitty brostep which attempts to be some of the most aggressive electronic music ever

what the fuck happened, im talking about the same area of kids , i never moved or anything and now suddenly the best music from 40 years ago isnt popular, just whatever hardcore crap they released last week is

and they dont teach them about the holocaust anymore but i guess you guys would like that
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>>10910622 (OP)
>>10910622 (OP)


Guys, you're looking at this as if the glass were half empty.

If guys dress and act like the OP's pic, we older guys can get laid alot easier with girls a generation below us.
I'm 34 and my last girlfriend was 21.
Even girls of their respective generations don't want guys like that.
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>>10927034
That aint the case, do.

Girls eat that shit up
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>>10926992
Again, I'd argue you could say the same thing about Gen Y. Who's the voice of Gen Y? No one. And we like it that way.
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Retard, only the millennials are also called Generation Y. They were born between 1982 and 2004.

Also, I was born in 1965, and I am NOT a fucking boomer. I'm part of Generation X in every way, and take extreme offense at being lumped into that generation of worthless hippie scum. The baby boom ended in 1964, when birth control pills became readily available. That's why Gen X is also known as the "baby bust" generation.

Get your fucking facts straight. Idiots like you are what ruin society, with your complete inability to gather facts, let alone use logic and reason.
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I've always been indifferent to Bieber; all those Youtube comments talking about his dick are far worse than he could ever be. But that fucking outfit makes him look like a fucking clown and the worst part is little shits are calling it "swag."

Also, Gen Z is fucked. Nothing we can do.
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>>10927017

You're Gen-Z. Too young to remember the 90s as a defining part of your childhood, and too young to have come of age in the post-9/11 2000s.
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Femanon here. Bieber is SO HOT.
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>>10927034
Nigga you're an idiot.

I'm 18 and girls love this type of shit.

They don't want some 30 year old dude who is out of touch with things that are relevant.
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>>10927138
Look guys, we're being trolled!
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>>10910622 (OP)
Generation Z here.

Baby Boomers are responsible for the actions of our generation.

They're the ones who set up society for us and supported all the shit people on here are generally against.

Don't blame us for these things, also it's just trendy clothing.
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>>10927032

Oh hohoho.

20 years ago every kid was listening to gangsta rap.

You're not experiencing anything new. You're just too young to know better.
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>>10927020

I feel like there's more emphasis on the jackass singing nowadays than there used to be, especially since bands have mostly fallen off the face of the Earth. It's not Chris Brown and his friends playing instruments, it's Chris Brown singing about how awesome it is being able to beat a woman and still be loved by the industry.

Musicians have always written about their lives, but the line is blurred now more than ever.
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>>10927146
>They don't want some 30 year old dude who is out of touch with things that are relevant.

gen z detected, #yoloswag the fuck out of here
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>>10927138
XD LE TROELELEOELEOELEOLEEOL
U SURE GOT ME
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>>10927209
I just admitted I'm 18 you faggot.

I'll #yoloswag while I'm fucking your bitch old man.
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>>10927183

>Generation Z here

First of all, the boomers aren't responsible for your actions. Secondly, if you are actually <13, never fucking admit that on 4chan.

Love,
Generation Y
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>>10927183

You can't blame the boomers forever, kid.

They've properly fucked our politics and economy, but your mistakes are your own.
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>>10927233
>I'll #yoloswag while I'm fucking your bitch old man

My sides.
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I was born in '95.

What generation do I belong to?
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>>10911029
There is no "defining moment" for Generation X. The reason we are "X" is that we are too diverse to be defined. Here's how you understand Gen X:

We don't fit into any neat pigeonholes, except one--we like our pop culture, because it's the only thing we can agree on.

We were the first generation of kids who had to face the first sudden rise in divorced parents and race mixing.

We hate generations that boast and talk about themselves endlessly (that means you, boomers).

We don't talk about ourselves unless/until you say something pants-on-head retarded about us, and we see fit to set the record straight. And, in the process of doing so, we can't come to an agreement because we're too different, so we just say, "Aw, fuck it," and get on with our lives.

tl;dr - There is no defining moment like The Beatles on the Ed Sullivan Show for us because there were too many different kinds of media around when we were kids.
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>>10927190
11-12 year old kids?
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>>10927266
You know who your peers are. Titles don't matter.
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>>10927266
The shitty one.
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>>10927190
Today's "gangsta rap" isn't.
It's pop-bullshit.

Back in the day, it was all about hip hop - the culture behind the music.
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>>10927233
If his "bitch" is over 18 and has some decency, I'm sure you are not getting any.
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>>10927305

This.

What you consider gangsta rap is commercialized bullshit about how awesome it is to have money, a place to sleep, and women to fuck.

Gangsta rap was about how life sucked.
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>>10911308
I was born in '95 and I remember all but Y2K. The faggotry is still containable in my peers. Anyone born after 2000? Worthless.
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>>10927305
Nigger beats are nigger beats.
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>Generation Boomer, X, Y
>Wallowing in your jew media, thinking Amuricuh saved freedom from the Nazis

>Generation Z
>System is collapsing, information on why jews are responsible is widely available

They might not turn out that bad
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>>10927339
I think today's gangsta rap is targetted towards those douchebags who have pencil-thin chin-strap beards, wear oversized t-shirts with scarface on them, and take photos of their money.

Old gangsta rap was written by people who killed people.
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>>10927281

Yes.

When I was kid we listened to 2pac, Snoop Dogg, Master P, and Cash Money.

Nothing has changed.
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>>10927276
oh keep going im almost there

>We were the first generation of kids who had to face the first sudden rise in divorced parents

there is none retard, that just comes from the fact that boomers generation is bigger and they're at the age where more relationships end while there arent that many young people at the age of getting married.
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>>10927305
My coworked said it was his policy that he would never listen to any rap that was before '97 when he graduated. Pretty smart for a dude that was divorced to a black chick.
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>>10911029
>What's a better defining moment for Gen X?

The premiere of The Simpsons.
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>>10927451
family guy*


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