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I spent the day sorting through and re-reading a few thousand e-mails from 2010, and it was really a blast from the past. What a year it was.
Thanks for an awesome 9 years, and for some great e-mails along the way.

As always, I read all of my e-mail and can be reached with questions/comments/concerns/hate mail/and plain ol' hellos at moot@4chan.org (or on AIM at MOOTCHAT).
tl;dr version of 2010: "SPAM, SPAM, SPAM, and VIRUSES: The Movie"

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Did the Holocaust actually happen, /pol/?
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not exactly how it is presented in this modern age
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>>10478783 (OP)
I see you are a humanist. Therefore your question is frivolous as you have already made your mind up. Have a nice Zionist life.
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It happened but 6 million jews did not die
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Like its even hard to kill 6 million people?

Werent 100 million Russians killed in WW2? Seems like 6 mil is just a drop in the ocean.
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>>10478783 (OP)
Something happened, but I don't think anyone can say what exactly went down for sure.
Remember any good history teacher will tell you that whats recorded isn't what actually happened.
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I never understand people who deny the holocaust - because those are usually the same people who hate Jews anyway.... Wouldnt you have wanted the holocaust to happen?

>bleh
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>did alot of European jeed die during WWII?
Yes
>Did the Nazis conspire to commit genocide?
Debatble
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>>10478896
BUT JEWS ARE WORTH LIKE 50 RUSSIANS SCUM

OY VEY

EVEN YOU THINKING THE HOLOCAUST ISN"T THE WORST THING THAT EVER HAPPENED IN HISTORY IS LIKE ANOTHER HOLOCAUST
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>>10478978
Zionists actually believe this.
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>>10478972
And closeminded you shall remain.
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>>10479027

Uhm ... wut? How?
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If you would like a fair answer, you should watch this video. If you say its too long, then I would like to suggest you check out many hours are in a day and really ask if this is that long.
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Anyone in this thread that denies the holocaust will be reported. It outlawed in a lot of countries to deny the shoah.

Oy vey how can you even do such a thing!?
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>>10478783 (OP)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEilNTuwnOI

Watch this and then get back to us. Tell us if you agree or disagree, why?
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>>10478978
I love how when it comes to discussions of it everyone focuses on the jews, who were simply the single biggest group killed, to the exclusion of all of the PoWs, the gypsies, the homosexuals, the Poles, the Ukrainians, The Russians etc. The people who accept it because they either don't know any better or can't be bothered mentioning, and the deniers so they can play up their "Good goyim, listen to shlomo" angle on the whole thing.
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>>10479192
Good goyim
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>>10479239
Thanks Mr. Goldberg!
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>>10479168
>4 hours

tl;dr now
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>>10478972
the holocaust is used as a bargaining chip. like:
>israel doesn't deserve to be a country
>BUT... HOLOCAUST!
i would never argue directly against the holocaust, instead i point out people's unreasonable reactions to it like ignoring the russian deaths (BUT.. GENOCIDE). force them to admit they think jews are special and they have no leg to stand on.
also ask why they need a law against holocaust denial in germany. this annoys them a lot.

9/11 is a lot more relevant and more evidence is available.
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>>10479339
>ISRAEL COMMITED WAR CRIMES
>B-BUT HHHHOOOOLLLLLOOOCUSTTT :(
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>>10479339
>>israel doesn't deserve to be a country
>>BUT... HOLOCAUST!

You want to know the real reason that Israel is a country? It keeps Islam from owning the entire Near and Middle East. It is just a stumbling block, something to stick in the craw of a superpower the west does not want to deal with.
Geopolitics, man.
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>>10478783 (OP)
Yes, two million Jews were persecuted, a good number of those sent to concentration camps and forced labor where they lived decently until the end of the war, when decease and starvation claimed 270,000 of their lives. It was a sad chapter in history.
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>>10479290
>4 hours
>a quarter of a day
what is so important in your life?
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>>10479595
>4 hours is a quarter of the day

Nah bro 6 hours is a quarter
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>>10478783 (OP)
6 million of my fellow Jewish men, woman and children were slaughtered. Have some respect and don't ask those kinds of stupid questions, please.
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>>10479595
A sixth of of a day retard
jesus christ
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>>10479654
>oh god you're serious.jpg
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>>10479451
Sure, it's a strategic position, but why make it a Jewish state. England was in control of it and could have made it an english colony, something they'd done before. Putting an ancient enemy of the Muslims in the middle of them is just not exactly a way to ensure peace.
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>>10478972
>Hitler
>17,000,000 deaths
Drop 5 million deaths, and those remaining nine are the result of war. Britain and France declared war on Germany, U.S. helped Britain and later Russia turned on Germany, it's not like the Germans would allow to be trampled over.
>No Churchill
>No Roosevelt
>No Eisenhower
>No Truman
Those warmongers are responsible for half of the deaths of WWII.
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>>10479714
WHAT MOTHERFUCKER YOU WANT TO MAKE THIS A JOKE DO YOU?? FUCK YOU MUSLIM CUNT.
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>>10479654
only Jews died huh?

Why is it that Jews want to claim the holocaust all to themselves?
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>>10479780
Reported this is a christian image board and I would please tell you to stop using foul language
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>>10479780
>doesn't believe in holocaust
>must be muslim
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>>10479654
>>10479714
>>10479780
>>10479844
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>>10479780
We have standards here buddy, we don't like the derogatory attacks against muslims or the usage of the word "c_nt".
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>>10479727
If England still controlled it, anyone who attacks is attacking England. England would be honour bound to fight, and all of her enemies (open or not) would attempt to impede that.

If it is a sovereign nation, a coalition of forces can re-invade if the state gets smashed.

Since the Jewishness of the state pisses the surrounding Muslims off, they will direct their energies towards conquering a little piece of land instead of expanding outwards into Europe.

Of course, now Europe is facing essentially the same thing that the North American natives were facing with the onslaught of Christian colonists.
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>>10479824
Personally this is something that pisses me off about the Holocaust. How many of the homosexuals and gypsies get mentioned? How many of the fully German folks who just had different politics? The Holocaust was about way more than just some Jews.
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>>10479857
You are JIDF, fuck off kike.
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>>10479957
They don't matter
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>>10478783 (OP)
Of course it fucking did, the real question is, is it being milked to help silence legit critique?
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>>10480022
>F**king

Can you please stop using foul language?
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>>10480004
Not to Jews, apparently. Are you a Jew?
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>>10480075
Are you a homo?
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>>10480087
Half.
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>>10480087
are you a wizard?
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>>10479888
MUSLIM CUNT, FUCK YOU ALLAH WAS A CUNT, THE PEDOPHILE MUHAMMAD CAN SUCK MY CUNT. FUCK YOU YOU MUSLIM CUNT!

Stop denying the holocaust, it happened and I lost a lot of Jewish brothers and sisters, have some fucking respect you miserable muslim fuck heads.
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>the most realistic answer

Yes it did happen, but just not nearly at scope that we were told and not in the way we were told. The most generous number of Jews killed during WWII is around 650,000 with the majority of them dying through disease and towards the end of the war starvation. There were no actual death camps with mass gassing and burning, the only cremations done were to destroy bodies from spreading whatever they died from among the camp.

Also it's pretty much accepted fact that the entire creation and support of Israel is based on the holocaust and that any associated with Judaism is at risk of it occurring again. That's the reason no one can just come out and say that it was an exaggerated event.

Also this thread is just going to draw extremists on both sides so I'm not sure why you'd bother to create it other than to feed the trolls.
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>>10480067
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>>10480145
YOU'RE WRONG MOTHERFUCKER FUCK YOU CUNT. IT WAS ONE OF THE WORST THINGS THAT HAS HAPPENED. HAVE SOME RESPECT YOU MUSLIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>10479727
The Americans had stopped taking imigrants and there was a movement among jews to move there, the British government was sympathetic to them because the place was an unstable hole they didn't want to bother governing, the empire was already looking pretty weak anyway and setting up Israel in the area made sense.
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>>10480171
Reported :)
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>>10478783 (OP)

I am under the belief that, yes, it happened, but the numbers are greatly exaggerated and that there were worse genocides that came before and after it.
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Short answer: no.

Long answer: no, but it should have.
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>>10479759
>Those warmongers
It's dictators.

In any case when they declared war Britain and France were merely honoring their alliance with Poland in the face of German aggression which contravened the treaty of Versailles. When the US entered the war it was because Germany had declared war already, honoring their agreement with Japan to do so when they did.
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>>10478783 (OP)

Yes
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>>10480145
don't worry, your post will get ignored so we can drag this thread out another 200 posts
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>>10479007
Actually they believe a jew and a goy arent comparable, we're more like beasts of burden
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>>10479897
Attacking israel is like attacking the US or most of europe, anyway. We don't want anyone trying to conquer it. I am saying: help them set up a government, don't import a bunch of people that are going to piss off the region and complicate world politics for the next 60+ years.

Figure out somewhere else to put them.
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>>10480391
If I lived in a city with a lot of Jews I'd pick up some money being a House Goy, doing menial things on the Sabbat.
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During WII The United States, and Germany set up concentration camps for the Japanese in America, and the Jews, and other groups of people in Germany. These camps were to hold people suspected to be trying to overthrow the Government.

The allied carpet bombing helped spread typhus across Europe, and destroyed German supply lines, because of this tens of thousands of people died in the German camps. In German camps were underground room called "Leichenkeller" where the bodies were stored until the bodies could be cremated. Many people died in the camps, but not because of mass gassings, but because of disease, and starvation.

Those underground Leichenkeller are labeled as gas chambers according to most sources in the American media, but from the original German blue prints for sites like Auschwitz they reveal the true purpose of the camps, and the ovens. There would be no purpose to build gas chambers underground, only to have the bodies be brought back above ground to burn them. They were kept underground to keep them cool, and there was a small room for ovens for those dieing while staying in the camp.
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>>10480487
Well they could hardly stay where they were, nobody wanted them.
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>>10480516
What I've heard is that the camps, specifically the ovens weren't even high enough capacity to kill whatever million people. I don't know if it's true or not but it's interesting.
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>>10480670
Basically yeah. They were individual ovens and there were something like 3 or 4 per camp? The best modern cremation ovens take 2-3 hours to destroy a body and they leave a ton of ashes (like 3-8 pounds each?)

The sheer logistics of even burning 200,000 is enormous and if you just do the math of the ovens running 24/7 in the camps after the supposed final solution you can't even get close to a million. Also the fuel consumption is enormous to run those ovens and they had fuel shortages didn't they?
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>>10480670
Yes this is true, a modern oven which is about half a million US dollars does a body in about a hour. Take a row of ovens assume they're running for 24 hours a day not stop, 24 bodies x 365 days a year multiplied by the numbers of years in the war the numbers. The number of the bodies no where near approaches the 6 million, and the amount of resources needs for those ovens would be enormous. Also considering the displacement of Jews in Europe before the camp, and the number of Jews in existence. Rounding up six millions Jews would be impossible.

Also you should listen to interviews of Jews in camps, the ones the media doesn't want you to hear, they had soccer fields, and pianos. The Germans were very kind to these people.
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>>10480670
>>10480785
If you burn them all up in an oven, how are you going to turn them into lampshades and soap?

What about advancing medical technology by performing experiments on their still living bodies?
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>>10480785
>>10480853
but the nazis learned the secret to cremating bodies in 10 minutes and were able to fit 5 bodies into a single furnace, this is common knowledge


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