$17k a year? You don't have dignity, you have sloth.

The left doesn't care about the working class. That path failed them long ago. Leftist get their support from minoritys and cultural marxists.

If you are a white man voting liberal is just shooting yourself in the foot.

>>912488
I'm a white upper middle class business analyst consultant for IBM. I'm a registered democrat.

I make very good money managing a product used to recalculate peoples mortgages, based on the Making Homes Affordable Act.

I *LOVE* these "socialist" programs. They keep people in their homes, creating a stopgap for crime and the need for even more social programs. They ensure that banks continue receive revenue, rather than drying up loans for new businesses in exchange for a bunch of lawyers getting richer. They keep the values for OTHER peoples homes up, responsible borrowers who don't deserve to be punished-by-proxy for others mistakes.

And most importantly, it keeps me (and my family) very, very, very comfortable.

I'm a liberal and I couldn't give a shit about the poor.

>>912573
OP here, Housing is not the governments job. People should live or die by thier ownhand, I am owed nothing. I made terrible mistakes, became addicted to drugs and wasted my life. Why should a person like you, more capable and better, suffer because of my mistakes? The poor, like me, are great at shifting blame and ducking responsibility and it sickens me.

>>912573
On the downside, I have to work on days like today.
(To validate data updates are functional on their effective date).

On the upside, who cares its telecommuting.

It's so ironic to me, that so many of our clients are right wing poorfags. You people wouldn't be in the situation you were in, if republicans hadn't shoved through deregulation. You people wouldn't be getting saved if it weren't for these "socialist" safety nets.

it could be because they mostly vote for dems

although granted, some of you guys are really fucking dumb. by your own logic, it's why you're poor as fuck in the first place

>>912649
I totally agree. Capitalism reward adherence to the system and being smart. I deserve to be poor because I didn;t get in line and work hard. I see no reason I should be rewarded or helped,

>>912462
Why does the Lumpen think it speaks for the poor?
Why is the Lumpen allowed to speak, anyway?

Libs only pretend to care for you, when it's themselves that they seek to gain.

>17k a year
>dignity

Try again OP.

>>912666
Sounds like someone is mad the poor refuse to join his soviet troika

>>912656
Yep, I'm smart enough to be born into a wealthy family.

>>912672
I work 40 hours a week at a job and give it my all. I do a good job and give an honest days work for an honest days pay.
I may not make much but times are tough and I am not starving. I have the internet and I am trying to save enough to pay for a year of cable. Life is pretty good, esp. compared to the third world.
It just angers me to see rich leftists protesting and causing societal discord in the name of the poor. You never see the actual poor at their marches, just spoiled brats whining.

>>912702
>>912702
Your ancestors were smart and made good decisions. They were able to take their wealth and build a legacy for their posterity. You owe me 0, I hope you get to keep every dime of what is rightfully yours.

>>912706
>saving for cable
You're trash, live a completely idiotic life and are happy with that. Bless your little stupid heart.

>>912759
I believe in paying cash up front for products. I paid cash for my car, I am 1 year ahead on my rent, I pay my utility company in advance. It't called responsiblity

must be fun struggling to pay basic cable and having no shot of advancing in social position because exiting the lower-middle class is nearly impossible due to your boyfriend Reagans policies

But if you think you dont deserve an opportunity, who am I to tell you you do, luls

>>912706
You're a fucking moron. I hope you lose your shitty job to someone more deserving and starve to death on the streets.

>>912764
Your life is stupid, and you're not even aware of that. Society needs more braindead imbeciles such as yourself.

>>912769
>>912775

>>912765
So much leftist anger. My life is my responsiblity. I don;t deserve luxuries I cannto pay for. There is no difference between cashing an unemployment check and going to the store and just taking what I please.
Life doesn't revolve around material goods, it;'s this selfish zeitgeist that ensured the total failure of OWS

>>912769
Look how buttmad this liberal is when his rosy view of the world is shattered

>>912798
>I-It's not like I want to go anywhere in life, baka!

>There is no difference between cashing an unemployment check and going to the store and just taking what I please.

>mfw I make less then op
fuck
well at least I still live with my parents and its just a part time job

>>912769
ITT Honest American gets called scum by unemployed communists

>>912798
10/10 sir. Personal responsibility is not emphasised enough anymore. If someone makes a bad choice like have 5 kids without being able to support them, it is only HIS responsibility not society's. If we incentivise bad behaviour then we just create stupid people.

>>912811
If I do it will be as a result of my own hard work, not using the law to rob people. What don't you understand about theft?

>>912798
>saving for cable
>life doesn't revolve around material goods
You're a complete tool with a high quotient of cognitive dissonance. What kind of work you do? None that requires intellectual skills. Your idiotic opinion is worth shit, you don't lose your job to a trained monkey because they can think better than you do.

>>912573
why are liberals so fucking stupid?

they have this fancy "new"(decade old) scheme that if only we give niggers houses they won't commit crime.
If only we give niggers handouts, they don't commit crime.

It's all nonsense of course, but they attribute the failure to not doing it ENOUGH.

Typical liberal logic.

>rather than drying up loans for new businesses

These "new businesses" are unprofitable pieces of shit who only existed due to easy credit and are destructive to the economy.

>>912798
>Life doesn't revolve around material goods,

Ah but liberals, socialists, communists, have always been very materialistic, that's their whole ideology.

Being beyond that is a more christian approach, something completely rejected by the modern atheist sort.

Um they think they speak for the poor because they campaign heavily among the constituency among lower income and minority voters and elect representatives which rely on those demographics?

Just a guess.

>>912855
rely =/= *represent

>>912837
This, not OP but I used to work at Walmart, it was disgusting seeing welfare stereotypical beaners with their huge families all the time, also Walmart sucks.

>>912837
Having children is almost never a bad choice.

NOT having children is the bad choice, waiting till you are 40 years old is the bad choice, breeding across ethnic or racial lines is the bad choice.

Hey op, 2-1 odds you are a christfag

>>912837
Thank you. I fucked around and squandered educational opportunites ( blew out my knee and got hooked on pain killers. I failed out of college and went though about 6 years of drug abuse.) Now all of that is my fault, including being weak enough to become addicted. The avoidance of personal responsibility caused this and I see no reason why my, and others, personal failings should become a matter of policy.

>>912865
>>912865
What does that have to do with anything?

>>912892
Max Weber?

Hey OP.
>>912410
That's what your precious right wing thinks of you. The left defends your dumb-ass of course, saying that you're not that dumb, and you wouldn't do it.

Going by this thread though I can see you successfully proved them lefties wrong good for you. I'm sure you'll put your $700 to good use on that cable tv you've always wanted.

>>912863
Did you even read what I said? I said having children when you can't SUPPORT them is a bad choice. Why would you have 5 children when you can barely afford to feed yourself? How cruel are you to ruin their lives before they even begin. It is never a good thing when you can't take care of them.

>>912915
I started that thread. Being poor I can honestly see that there are too many poors for society to care for.

Look fags, there is a difference between being poor because you had a hard life and being poor because you fucked up your life. Poor people need help but not the kind that makes them think their choices were good ones and they can repeat them at will because society will pay them. That just creates MORE poor people.

>>912925
>I started that thread

BWAHAHAHA
Shine on you crazy diamond OP.
So would you sign up for the snip?

>>912957
Maybe, If I can't provide for a child it is immoral for me to have them.Raising a child poor in such a materialistic culture is almost Child abuse

>>912870
>doesn't understand that being born with a weak will and neurological/genetic predisposition to addiction is morally arbitrary
>thinks being born to a wealthy family and with a strong will to succeed is not morally arbitrary

Yes I'm going to go with >>912769

>>912925
You're poor because you're stupid.

>>912978
Actually I am more concerned with child abuse. Poor people tend to have criminal kids ( this is a culture based on materialism and, according to the frustration-aggression hypothesis, this placement oputside what society values leads to violent acts. Why spawn kids that will spend their lives in prison or abject poverty? That is cruelty.