Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:28
No.7775689

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:28 No.7775689

by ENDING the educational system.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:29
No.7775710

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:29 No.7775710

Replies: >>7775796

You know, we had a world class education system BEFORE we ended segregation and nigger ruined the standard of classrooms.

Really.

Blame niggers. I do.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:29
No.7775717

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:29 No.7775717

Replies: >>7775796

I genuinely see no reason why social inequality is an issue, as long as no one is starving to death.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:30
No.7775735

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:30 No.7775735

Replies: >>7775755 >>7775756 >>7775778 >>7775804 >>7775859

- Hire more teachers
- Spend more money on education
- Increase the size of the Dept of Ed.

This is a start.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:31
No.7775755

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:31 No.7775755

Replies: >>7775778 >>7775804

>>7775735
cont.

- Build more schools
- Start kids in schools at a younger age

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:31
No.7775756

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:31 No.7775756

>>7775735
Throw more money at it?

Are you insane? Yeah, you are a liberal of course you are.

WE HAD A WONDERFUL EDUCATION SYSTEM, BEST IN THE WORLD BEFORE WE FORCED NIGGERS INTO WHITE CLASSROOMS

NOTHING YOU EVER SAY WILL EVER CHANGE THIS REALITY

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:31
No.7775764

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:31 No.7775764

Replies: >>7776049

>>7775670 (OP)

Don't the Nordic countries have a bunch of oil money which they use to fuel their social programs?

Also this suggests that we should make education a state issue, because these countries are far smaller than the US.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:31
No.7775766

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:31 No.7775766

Replies: >>7775876 >>7775917 >>7775951 >>7775967 >>7776675 >>7776892

Why is education so expensive? Why do we tolerate the "eduction industry"?

This is the 21st century. We live in a global age. Why do we need fucking college professors and books and classrooms and shit? Just upload everything online, distribute it freely, charge people for taking tests (Like ten dollars per test, to pay for paper and the supervisor making sure no one is cheating and shit.), and once everyone passes all required tests they get the diploma.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:32
No.7775778

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:32 No.7775778

>>7775735
>>7775755
Idiot, you are citing exactly what has not worked for the last four decades.

Get out of here loser.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:32
No.7775789

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:32 No.7775789

>>7775670 (OP)
Voucher system.

/thread

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:33
No.7775796

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:33 No.7775796

Replies: >>7775822

>>7775710
Because God in schools and an overwhelming focus on conformity is great right?
>>7775717
Because it'll do us worse in the long run and'll ensure the unhappiness and misfortune of generations to come?

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:33
No.7775804

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:33 No.7775804

Replies: >>7775867 >>7775896

>>7775735
>>7775755
cont.

- Free college and grad school for all
- Forgive all student loans

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:33
No.7775822

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:33 No.7775822

>>7775796
It worked until the 60's anonymous.

I am truly sorry you have no interest in real solutions. Maybe your feelings will save america?

H !h/sxmcRzt2
11/28/12(Wed)20:34
No.7775824

H !h/sxmcRzt2 11/28/12(Wed)20:34 No.7775824

Replies: >>7775873

>Axe No Child Left Behind
>Stop catering to fucking retards and treat schools like schools, instead of fucking day cares.
>Axe Special Ed
>More specialized education, like trades for those who aren't as suited for academics or better classes and teachers for those who are.
>Axe Teacher's Union

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:34
No.7775843

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:34 No.7775843

Replies: >>7775864

>comparing scandinavia to america

>"nordic countries" -- Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Norway and Sweden
25 million people 1.3 million sq miles

>AMERICA, LAND OF THE FREE, HOME OF THE BRAVE
315 million people 3.8 million sq miles

THERE IS NO COMPARISON

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:35
No.7775859

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:35 No.7775859

Replies: >>7775882

>>7775735
>Hire more teachers
yes yes yes
>Spend more money on education
Alongside making the system more efficient like simplifying regulatory processes
>Increase the size of the DOE
Highly disagree, has not increased the quality of education and has been increasing the cost, alongside some teacher's unions, since 1980
>Reduce the amount of national testing and state testing so students can focus on the subject matter and less on what Washington thinks everyone should know
Yes

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:35
No.7775864

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:35 No.7775864

>>7775843
Those nations WERE homogenous.

Homogeneity is the key to a harmonious society. And nothing liberals ever say will change that.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:35
No.7775867

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:35 No.7775867

>>7775804
>free

TANSTAAFL.

What you really mean is "Force others to pay for some people's education."

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:35
No.7775873

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:35 No.7775873

Replies: >>7775939 >>7775955

>>7775824
>>Axe No Child Left Behind
Right on
>>Stop catering to fucking retards and treat schools like schools, instead of fucking day cares.
Yeah yeah I'm diggin it
>Axe Special Ed
What
>Axe Teacher's Union
What

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:35
No.7775876

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:35 No.7775876

>>7775766
This, so much this.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:36
No.7775882

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:36 No.7775882

Replies: >>7776153

>>7775859
THIS HAS NOT WORKED FOR FOUR DECADES

ALL OF THIS HAS BEEN DONE ALMOST EVERY SINGLE ELECTION CYCLE

WITH NO GREAT RESULTS

THINGS HAVE GOTTEN WORSE

H !h/sxmcRzt2
11/28/12(Wed)20:36
No.7775896

H !h/sxmcRzt2 11/28/12(Wed)20:36 No.7775896

>>7775804

Free higher education for all is bullshit, because then you have people doing what happens in Europe, where lazy fuckfaces fritter around in low level college courses and game the system instead of getting jobs. People shouldn't be scot-free to waste everyone's time taking liberal arts courses on someone elses' dime.

Colleges should be a meritocracy of sorts, where those who show true potential are taken care of.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:37
No.7775903

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:37 No.7775903

Replies: >>7776120

File: 1354153020640.jpg-(32 KB, 286x400, aka_all_women.jpg)

Start taking shit very seriously.

3 strikes and you're out policy on fuck-ups with students. If they don't want to learn, send them to the factories.

No "everyone wins" philosophy in grade school. Reward those who do well, secretly laugh at those who fail.

Give scholarships only to those students who got good grades. No skin color bias, no gender bias. If there is a scholarship to be given, it goes to the people with the best grades. If you want a scholarship, do fucking better in school.

Utterly cease encouraging fields of study that do not benefit the nation, and that you know there are no jobs in.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:37
No.7775911

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:37 No.7775911

Replies: >>7775946 >>7776606

File: 1354153040875.png-(56 KB, 288x210, 1339711056585.png)

In Sweden, parents can receive vouchers to take their children to a private school of their choice, since 1992.

Why can't America embrace glorious, superior, private education accessible to all?

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:37
No.7775917

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:37 No.7775917

Replies: >>7775948 >>7775956

>>7775766
>Why do we need fucking college professors
Because professors know their shit, it's kind of their job

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:38
No.7775939

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:38 No.7775939

Replies: >>7776021

>>7775873
>special ed
We spend so much more on the students who, at BEST, mya make a living flipping burgers, than we do on the gifted students who will become great leaders, innovators, and inventors. This is a crime against society itself.

>teacher's unions
They prevent us from firing incompetent, lazy, and abusive teachers. There are some states where it's so bad, they basically just pay teachers to do nothing in order to get them out of the classroom, because it's actually cheaper to pay their salaries and have them do nothing than it is to try and fire them and go through the subsequent legal hassle.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:38
No.7775946

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:38 No.7775946

>>7775911
Trust me, as Sweden embraces and then DEMANDS the multi-cult standards will fall. Within 30 years they will be right where we are now.

Homogeneity is the ONLY way to have stability. Enjoy your mud races.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:38
No.7775948

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:38 No.7775948

>>7775917
At top tier schools, maybe. The rest are full of worthless fuckups parading as "professors".

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:38
No.7775951

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:38 No.7775951

>>7775766
>implying the cost of test taking and proctoring would not skyrocket to ungodly levels

H !h/sxmcRzt2
11/28/12(Wed)20:38
No.7775955

H !h/sxmcRzt2 11/28/12(Wed)20:38 No.7775955

>>7775873

Special Ed in public schools is a waste of resources. If people want their retard babies to be put in a daycare, it should be done on their own dollar, not on someone else's.

The Teacher's Union fucks over the education system by protecting shitty teachers and forcing the good teachers to work with the shitty teachers.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:38
No.7775956

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:38 No.7775956

>>7775917
Why should there be 10,000 professors for a single class, when it's enough to hire one, record all of his lectures, and then put them online for everyone to have access to?

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:38
No.7775960

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:38 No.7775960

Replies: >>7775997

Why don't you entitlement babies move to Libya?

> Free healthcare
> Free education through college
> Free water and electricity
> and so much more free shit...

Its a paradise. GTFO

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:39
No.7775967

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:39 No.7775967

Replies: >>7776025

>>7775766
I like this idea. I think this is probably the best approach to education in society, at least in a society where the internet exists. I mean, you can teach yourself anything you want by buying a book, given time and dedication.

Now, what that means, I think, is that there should be a few years of compulsory education where you are taught how to read, do basic maths, and write. After that though, I don't see why the current middle/high school system exists at all. It doesn't work. It just doesn't fucking work. Kids don't fucking want to learn. Good. Fuck 'em. Let them be stupid mindless wage slaves. The ones who want to learn will.

This approach also has the advantage of making sure each person learns what they find relevant and useful, not what the system dictates. Of course, that's the problem. We in this thread are aware, at least I think we are, that the education system in America is NOT meant to educate people. It is meant to indoctrinate them with the "accepted" truth and break children to the yoke of the system they will wear for the rest of their lives.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:40
No.7775997

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:40 No.7775997

Replies: >>7776024

>>7775960
not anymore...

Now it's an islamist run shithole.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:40
No.7776003

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:40 No.7776003

Replies: >>7776156

Despite not having the best education, the US landed on the moon. Eat shit, Yuropoors.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:40
No.7776009

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:40 No.7776009

>here in the nordic countries: norway sweden, and denmark
>norway, sweden, denmark, and finland colored in
Looks like /someone/ could use some free education...

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:40
No.7776021

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:40 No.7776021

Replies: >>7776084 >>7776254

>>7775939
>We spend so much more on the students who, at BEST, mya make a living flipping burgers, than we do on the gifted students who will become great leaders, innovators, and inventors. This is a crime against society itself.
But you must realize that all kids who are in special ed aren't complete fucktards right?

And hell yes I agree that the Teacher's Union can get in the way of shit. But I'm saying just reform it, don't get rid of it completely.
Unions exist for a reason

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:41
No.7776024

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:41 No.7776024

Replies: >>7776091

>>7775997
I thought progressives loved islam?

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:41
No.7776025

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:41 No.7776025

Replies: >>7776053 >>7776174 >>7776960

>>7775967
Yeah, I'm not saying get rid of high schools and stuff like that. That's extremely important, if anything, then for socialization of kids, so they don't end up as NEETs. But college? Maybe some specialized classes would require real supervision and shit, but most of them - no chance in hell.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:41
No.7776044

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:41 No.7776044

Replies: >>7776119

>implying social inequality is an actual problem
I don't understand how some people suffer extreme emotional discomfort at the thought that someone somewhere is a better swimmer than them, more committed to their career or better at math, to the point where they want the government to step in and drag others down to their decrepit level.

If they want to help the poor wouldn't it be better to reduce poverty or free them from oppression?

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:42
No.7776049

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:42 No.7776049

Replies: >>7776242

>>7775764
Norway does

Sweden had a huge economic boom after the war, which they used to fuel their social programs, which in turn helped them to reach the forefront of technological development, which is why it still works.

Denmark is pretty much flat broke. Their main export is pork.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:42
No.7776053

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:42 No.7776053

Replies: >>7776135

File: 1354153336407.jpg-(3 KB, 160x159, kappa.jpg)

>>7776025
>confirmed for did not major in anything useful

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:42
No.7776066

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:42 No.7776066

File: 1354153361527.png-(16 KB, 219x574, sweden lol.png)

Here in der Nordic coontries, we know that we should oopen our boreders to those less fortoonate.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:42
No.7776067

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:42 No.7776067

But only Finland has great education. Sweden, Norway and Denmark are producing dumbasses.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:43
No.7776084

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:43 No.7776084

>>7776021
Special ed hurts average students, too.

My high school biology class was "integrated" with the special ed program. Every year, one class in every subject was randomly selected for this and taught with both regular students and special ed classes.

This resulted in the class being utterly meaningless, and I had to teach myself by stealing a textbook and reading it on my own time, because we took literally weeks per chapter.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:43
No.7776085

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:43 No.7776085

File: 1354153392923.png-(4 KB, 302x237, 1314453206200.png)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDAQWJbEl9U#t=3m19s

Skip to 3:20

This is considered "free market radicalism" in the US.

Why can't America embrace the private sector in education like Scandinavia?

Did you know that both Finland and Denmark are ranked as more free economies than America?

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:43
No.7776091

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:43 No.7776091

>>7776024
There's a difference between progressive and hardcore commies.

Progressives love Islam. Hardcore commies remember Gaddafi and all the other tinpot socialist dictators and get incredibly butthurt as they slowly get overthrown and murdered by their own beloved subjects.

Progressives mostly exist in the West. Hardcore commies are a dying relic in post-communist, Eastern Europe. They're the ones crying the most about Libya and shit.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:44
No.7776119

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:44 No.7776119

>>7776044
Social inequality leads to poverty and oppression
The educational imbalance almost directly causes the American Caste System

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:44
No.7776120

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:44 No.7776120

Replies: >>7776155 >>7776222

File: 1354153466506.png-(88 KB, 298x306, 1584467.png)

>>7775903
Want to know something infuriating

>Schools receive federal funds for special education programs
>Special Ed is BOTH accelerated classes and mentally/physically disabled classes
>Many schools put ALL the special funds towards the disabled
>tfw there's no incentive for the smartest kids to excel.

duck !!yNgOuOmBufO
11/28/12(Wed)20:44
No.7776130

duck !!yNgOuOmBufO 11/28/12(Wed)20:44 No.7776130

Replies: >>7776907

>blacks in america outperform blacks in africa

>spics in america outperform spics in spic countries

>chinks in america outperform most chink countries

>whites in america outperform most whites in white countries

so fuck you

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:44
No.7776135

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:44 No.7776135

>>7776053
Hey, law might not be "useful" for future technological progress of society like STEMs are, but it sure is great when it comes to making money and climbing the social ladder.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:45
No.7776142

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:45 No.7776142

Replies: >>7776418

File: 1354153511239.png-(55 KB, 909x380, 27447305450774.png)

I say, while we're reforming education, let's stop using it as a tool of social change.

Teach academics. ONLY academics.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:45
No.7776148

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:45 No.7776148

THE NUMBER ONE CAUSE OF SOCIAL INEQUALITY

IS RACIAL INEQUALITY

REALITY IS IN FACT RACIST

Who knew? Oh, we did.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:45
No.7776153

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:45 No.7776153

>>7775882
Dude, its centralized authoritarian executive departments that are ruining the education system.

Which is what I was trying to convey.

Relax, turn the caps-lock off

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:45
No.7776155

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:45 No.7776155

>>7776120
Shit in, shit out.

If America doesn't start focusing on the top, there won't be a top. We will have only the retards we spent all our money building into big retards.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:45
No.7776156

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:45 No.7776156

Replies: >>7776232

>>7776003
With a rocket designed and built by a German scientist.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:46
No.7776174

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:46 No.7776174

>>7776025
The problem is that under the current system parents are TOTALLY illiterate in even shit like algebra or who Kant is. In a system with a literate populace, parents themselves could give some useful input in what their kids should learn. But as we all know, most people are fucking retarded, so they outsource their children's education. Whatever, not everyone can teach this stuff.

But, with stuff like the internet there is just no goddamn excuse. Know dick about math? THERE ARE ONLINE COURSES ON LITERALLY EVERY TYPE OF MATH. Course wasn't comprehensive enough? ORDER A BOOK ON IT.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:46
No.7776190

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:46 No.7776190

Replies: >>7776268

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Syp_jR4BNBk&feature=relmfu

Just so you feel interested enough to watch the video i guess ill give a general over view.

Education has a lot of capital in it that isnt subject to the testing of profit margins.

We force kids to go to shitty schools, they cant be like "your school sucks, my taxes and I will go elsewhere"

We have the teachers union pricing old good teacher out of work, and also making new teachers have very little wage and no incentive's to have them work harder.

If we let people pick where they put the taxes and there children, then that means schools will compete for the best teachers so they can get the money. This means higher wages for GOOD teachers, and unemployed shitty teachers who ruin the lives of children.

Due to the fact that the real world cant swap right a way we don't need to worry about new schools popping up immediatly and causing public schools to become unfunded, however over time public schools will have to clean up there acts, or everyone who works there will be out of a job. Basically it makes administrators accountable for who they hire, and it makes parents actually be able to go get someones ass handed to them if they suck.

continued

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:47
No.7776193

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:47 No.7776193

Replies: >>7776273

Getting rid of teachers unions, equal funding across the board with extra cash for troubled schools.

No more of this passing kids for the sake of it or dropping standards, if you keep the standards high kids will rise to meet them.

Cut no child left behind and the Obama education plan.

Keep standardized testing but do not make the results public, and do not cut the funding because of it.

Cut the voucher system

Cut busing (minorities for the sake of it in schools).

No more thematic teaching in History and bring back real standards.

Future teacher reporting in I'm a year away from getting my degree in History and education.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:47
No.7776213

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:47 No.7776213

>HERE ARE THE NORDIC COUNTRIES, DENMARK, NORWAY AND SWEDEN

LET'S ALSO HIGHLIGHT FINLAND FOR SHIGGLES

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:47
No.7776222

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:47 No.7776222

Replies: >>7776246

File: 1354153675225.png-(632 KB, 848x701, 134233057520.png)

>>7776120
>tfw some kids in my advanced placement classes throughout college seemed mentally disabled

>tfw schools add as many students to advanced placement classes for extra taxpayer income at the expense at slow learning students

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:48
No.7776223

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:48 No.7776223

The system will be implemented in the form of each parents receiving a voucher worth X amount of funds that can ONLY be spent for education, this is in essence where there taxes go, many private school operate on costs similar to that of public schools, well managed private school will now actually be able to compete for children from the lower middle class and poor, because those very people will be able to have there tax money given to the private school, in exchange for the greater education the kids will receive.

This system isn't perfect but it doesn't have any new issues it will generate, except for ones like shitty employees being out of a job, but really, should YOU be paying for your shitty math teacher to be employed, or should you be paying for the could be math lover that WISHES he could make enough to justify teaching.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:48
No.7776228

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:48 No.7776228

City schools are in dire straits, and they have been for years. Black kids don't want to learn. They don't want to even humor the teacher by sitting there, shutting their fucking faces and doing their work, maybe learning a thing or two in the process. It's a joke, anyone who's gone through school in the city can attest to it - if you're actually trying to learn, it's impossible. School from grades three and on are nothing but a sideshow of fights, disrespect, and all-around chimpouts.

The schools need to be able to strap on a dick and kick these fucking kids to the curb. Students who actually kind of give a shit suffer because the same problem students who are allowed by the state to sit back and fuck things up.

You're suspended for the 4th time? You should be kicked out so you can be in jail sooner and so that the people who care can get something out of their education.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:48
No.7776232

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:48 No.7776232

Replies: >>7776262

>>7776156

And look at how far that German engineering got without American oversight: a completely devastated continent.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:48
No.7776238

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:48 No.7776238

Higher education in America is superior to the Nordic countries.

But in order to have better education in America we need to fire the bad teachers and give it to people who can actually get results. Perhaps place more emphasis on private schools than public. Remove self-esteem education altogether.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:48
No.7776240

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:48 No.7776240

THE NUMBER ONE CAUSE OF SOCIAL INEQUALITY

IS RACIAL INEQUALITY

REALITY IS IN FACT RACIST

Who knew? Oh, we did.....

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:48
No.7776242

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:48 No.7776242

Replies: >>7776266

>>7776049
We do export a lot of pork.

Denmark is the only country in the world with more pigs than people - about 12 million pigs and 6 million people

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:48
No.7776246

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:48 No.7776246

>>7776222
I ment throughout high school, my bad

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:48
No.7776254

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:48 No.7776254

>>7776021
And that reason is to squeeze as much as possible out of the taxpayer. It has nothing to do with the quality of education, which should be the emphasis. To have the highest quality teachers, and motivate them, we need to be able to remove the dead wood. Teachers are paid by tenure, so that two teachers - one awful, and one star - will be paid the same. Therefore destroying the motivation of the good teacher to excel. Why should he bust his ass and devote his life to children, when he can just fuck off and get paid the same? Many tools are needed to inspire employees, and termination of underperformers is necessary. Without periodic cleanups of bad apples, any business will fail. Schools are no different.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:49
No.7776262

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:49 No.7776262

>>7776232
>Rockets
>geopolitics
>same thing
lolwut?

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:49
No.7776266

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:49 No.7776266

Replies: >>7776484

File: 1354153764241.gif-(491 KB, 271x280, tumblr_ldo3t9FOFh1qcl9m7o1_400.gif)

>>7776242
>better education system
>full of pigs and shit

oh, the irony

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:49
No.7776268

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:49 No.7776268

>>7776190

The system will be implemented in the form of each parents receiving a voucher worth X amount of funds that can ONLY be spent for education, this is in essence where there taxes go, many private school operate on costs similar to that of public schools, well managed private school will now actually be able to compete for children from the lower middle class and poor, because those very people will be able to have there tax money given to the private school, in exchange for the greater education the kids will receive.

This system isn't perfect but it doesn't have any new issues it will generate, except for ones like shitty employees being out of a job, but really, should YOU be paying for your shitty math teacher to be employed, or should you be paying for the could be math lover that WISHES he could make enough to justify teaching.

Dat_mofo !!w/n937u8OM/
11/28/12(Wed)20:49
No.7776270

Dat_mofo !!w/n937u8OM/ 11/28/12(Wed)20:49 No.7776270

>How do we fix the education system?

Stop breeding.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:49
No.7776273

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:49 No.7776273

Replies: >>7776433 >>7776745

>>7776193
Oh and most of all cut this bullshit about Highschool just being a set up for college and not building real skills. Give these kids an actual education that will prepare them for trade schools and to be educated voting citizens.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:52
No.7776376

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:52 No.7776376

Replies: >>7776742

File: 1354153968930.gif-(367 KB, 500x278, t01.gif)

The hallmark of an idiot is someone who compares the US to a tiny, irrelevant Nordic country.

That said, look up US education statistics when you control for poverty, the US is usually 1 or 2. Education is mostly fine, it could be tweaked at the college level (debt, etc) but poverty is what is really killing us. The US has millions of children in poverty or go to sleep hungry, that shit really fucks with educational potential and outlooks.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:54
No.7776407

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:54 No.7776407

Replies: >>7776525

>completely privatize the public school system
>start a voucher program
>start a scholarship program that rewards academic excellence
>eliminate or significantly weaken the teacher unions
>eliminate tenure

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:54
No.7776418

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:54 No.7776418

>>7776142
>>7776142
>>7776142
>>7776142
>>7776142
>>7776142
THIS

get your fucking black history month and environemntalism out of the fucking classroom.

Why did I have to watch An Inconvenient Truth in a math class, /pol/?

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:54
No.7776433

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:54 No.7776433

>>7776273
Out of my entire state education (ending in 2011), we were groomed exclusively to only perform well on the SSA/NCLB test and the SAT.

Two of my teachers, aside from my German teacher, broke the mold and gave us actual skills to function and operate in the real world.

Two.
Fucking.
Teachers.

NCLB tests are ruining education and should have never have been implemented. Collegeboard is also a racket and needs to be dealt with but it's a different issue. Schools shouldn't be dealing with them.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:56
No.7776480

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:56 No.7776480

>>7775670 (OP)
Kill the Boomer Libfag Hippie professors spouting bullshit

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:56
No.7776484

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:56 No.7776484

>>7776266
She turns from ugly to kind of cute.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:57
No.7776504

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:57 No.7776504

Replies: >>7776656 >>7776714

Decentralize schools.
Schools are too focused on tests and following what politicians tell them to do.
Finnish schools are considered some of the highest and when people went there to learn their secrets they found no private schools and very few to almost none testing.
The success comes from the fact that they are decentralized with each school doing its own thing.
I took IB classes in school and know how shitty our school was. Learning was ALWAYS curved on if we need it on the test or not. "Hey teacher! How do you do this in algebra?" "Oh don't worry about that, it's not gonna be on the test!"
It's all TEST TEST TEST TEST. And even then, aren't tests suppose to be to see what you know? Instead, that test is put on your grade which will follow you and will determine your college.

I remember having a project once in I think ninth grade? My first year of IB. Anyways, project where we had to learn how to correctly cite and research big research projects. We had to fill up 6 flash cards. First we did practice ones (each flash card was a quiz grade) and then later she told us how to revise them correctly individually. So 12 in total. 6 rough draft and 6 final. Yet, she graded the practice ones. Why? It's practice, why grade it? This is something schools always do. Why grade the practice and the showing of "how much you know"? This is pretty much how testing in America works.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)20:57
No.7776525

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)20:57 No.7776525

>>7776407
We tried that in places.
Didn't work.
Try something else Alec scum

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)21:01
No.7776606

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)21:01 No.7776606

Replies: >>7776689 >>7776709 >>7776780

>>7775911
Because private education is just segregation in disguise.

Private schools should be destroyed forcing the rich to send their kids to public school... then watch the funding pour in.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)21:01
No.7776612

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)21:01 No.7776612

>>7775670 (OP)
>White Americans out score damn near everyone in the world.
>Asian Americans out score everyone in the world
>Why can't americans be like nordic coutries
>HEY! you can't reduce nigs/mexs to nordic levels
>WTF! libs/europoors

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)21:01
No.7776629

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)21:01 No.7776629

Replies: >>7776830

>>7775670 (OP)
Make TV's illegal.
Done.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)21:02
No.7776656

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)21:02 No.7776656

Replies: >>7776737

>>7776504
If public schools were decentralized and had the ability to remove and hire teachers independently, and citizens had some choice in which school they could attend, I would have no problem with a public education system. In the meantime, it seems that vouchers are the best solution to a broken system.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)21:03
No.7776675

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)21:03 No.7776675

>>7775766
Essentially a simplified online degree. This should be the future but the modern College system employs too many people to make this a universal reality

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)21:03
No.7776689

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)21:03 No.7776689

Replies: >>7776780

>>7776606
You could spend a million dollars per student in an inner city school. It's not going to stop it from being a zoo and improve the students one bit.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)21:04
No.7776707

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)21:04 No.7776707

Replies: >>7776858 >>7776866

Things taught in American high schools:

>advanced algebra
>trigonometry
>entry level calculus
>latin
>European history
>Theory of Knowledge in IB schools
>gym class is almost always nothing but fucking around in a gym or basketball court
>abstinence-only sex ed
>the entire literary genre of "high school lit"

Things not taught in American high schools:
>how to balance a checkbook
>public speaking (which I would hate, but you can't argue it's not needed)
>how to repair basic problems with a car
>how to properly analyze and critique sources of information for bias
>internet safety, security, and etiquette
>basic computer useage and troubleshooting (if it exists, it's an elective only the nerds take)
>high school lit never focuses on contemporary media that students actually care about

Also, home ec should be a requirement for everyone. It's probably the single most useful class I took in high school. I didn't LIKE sewing or cooking or shit but you can't tell me that's not something everyone should know how to do.

H !h/sxmcRzt2
11/28/12(Wed)21:04
No.7776709

H !h/sxmcRzt2 11/28/12(Wed)21:04 No.7776709

Replies: >>7776780 >>7776821 >>7776945

>>7776606

Why should people with money be forced to be dragged down to the level of niggers and spics that don't give a shit about learning?

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)21:04
No.7776714

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)21:04 No.7776714

>>7776504
There's the problem, corrupt clueless political leaders making the decisions over education.

A government official who got a degree in law has no business telling a school how to teach.

For example some schools want to go back to drilling facts like we did back in the 60s.

Cause because of 'standards' schools are supposed to 'nurture creativity' and aren't allowed to make you repeat stuff over and over again.

What does creativity get you in the modern world?
Jack shit.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)21:05
No.7776737

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)21:05 No.7776737

>>7776656
> and citizens had some choice in which school they could attend,
I can't speak for the rest of USA but in my city in Virginia you could attend any High School so long as you take that school's special program for higher education. Every school in my city has a program of sorts.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)21:05
No.7776742

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)21:05 No.7776742

>>7776376
Having spent a lot of time in the US, and some time going around your schools and colleges sitting in on classes because the teacher liked my accent - Your schools are fucking disastrously bad. You are teaching 18-19 year old kids the same stuff that 13-14 year olds in other developed countries already know.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)21:05
No.7776745

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)21:05 No.7776745

>>7776273
this

I've never understood why high school is essentially 4 years of preparation for the SAT

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)21:06
No.7776765

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)21:06 No.7776765

You know what we're well past needing?

We need a high-end online degree.

We need an online degree that carries actual fucking weight. Online degrees need to stop being shit that everyone discards.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)21:06
No.7776779

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)21:06 No.7776779

Replies: >>7776834 >>7777025

All these 'solutions' would create even scenarios

Just copy what fucking Finland or Australia does

No wonder your country is completely ruined

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)21:06
No.7776780

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)21:06 No.7776780

Replies: >>7776918

>>7776606
>Because private education is just segregation in disguise.
Fucking this

>>7776689
Only if you do nothing with the money
If the money is spent on getting better books and quality teachers a whole world of difference can be made

>>7776709
Ha ha oh wow. It's really like you don't understand psychology
That false stigma is because of the shitty schools in inner cities

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)21:07
No.7776791

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)21:07 No.7776791

Pay teachers more. Hire teachers more selectively. Ramp up requirements to be a teacher. Problem fucking solved. >but what requirements

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)21:08
No.7776821

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)21:08 No.7776821

>>7776709
Because then they'll know the real reasons why schools are fucking up, and they'll do what really needs to be done.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)21:08
No.7776830

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)21:08 No.7776830

Replies: >>7776984

>>7776629
>Make TV's illegal.
Better idea.... Free TV's to people who voluntarily get sterilized. Problem solved in one generation when the stupid breed themselves out.

Imagine how many Tyrones and Shaniquas would get a free TV instead of breeding.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)21:09
No.7776834

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)21:09 No.7776834

Replies: >>7776876

>>7776779
>Just copy what fucking Finland
Will be very hard to do in USA.
Our education is focused on tests. SAT/ACT etc.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)21:09
No.7776852

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)21:09 No.7776852

Replies: >>7776900 >>7776958

File: 1354154988939.gif-(91 KB, 550x439, roger-us-europe.gif)

>>7775670 (OP)
Why can't large countries with large ethnically and racially diverse populations do what small ethnically and racially homogenous countries do?

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)21:10
No.7776858

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)21:10 No.7776858

Replies: >>7776947

>>7776707

you forgot American history

I fucking hated having to learn American history for the first three years of highschool

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)21:10
No.7776866

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)21:10 No.7776866

Replies: >>7777000 >>7777055

>>7776707
>how to balance a checkbook
Learned it in home ec. Only spent a day on it, but honestly there's not much to learn about it. It's more of a cultural issue.

>public speaking (which I would hate, but you can't argue it's not needed)
They did public speaking in all classes especially sciences which they made an effort to because of the perception STEM = bad public speakers.

>how to repair basic problems with a car
Didn't do this, but not everyone drives.

>how to properly analyze and critique sources of information for bias
Did this throughout any early social studies class.

>internet safety, security, and etiquette
I don't know how it is now, but really it's not like old boomer ladies are going to be experts on this topic.

>basic computer useage and troubleshooting (if it exists, it's an elective only the nerds take)
Some kind of computer programming was required in my school.

>high school lit never focuses on contemporary media that students actually care about
This is one that I think is sorely needed. English classes need to take the emphasis off classic literature and make their students more well informed with current events and modern history. I mean Shakespeare is great and all, but seriously they need to get off his dick.

I went to a public school by the way, though it was a very highly rated one.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)21:10
No.7776876

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)21:10 No.7776876

>>7776834
Exactly

Drop that shit

It's ruining your youth and your country

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)21:11
No.7776892

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)21:11 No.7776892

Replies: >>7776934

File: 1354155082110.png-(187 KB, 398x415, Black Friday.png)

>>7775766
>Why is education so expensive? Why do we tolerate the "eduction industry"?
For the same reason we tolerate the "Medicine Industry". Capitalism.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)21:11
No.7776900

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)21:11 No.7776900

>>7776852
Because they're countries with large populations as opposed to countries with small populations

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)21:11
No.7776907

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)21:11 No.7776907

Replies: >>7777072

>>7776130
>whites in america outperform most whites in >white countries
>>so fuck you
most marshmellows stuffed up one nostril? Toxith O'Grady, Liverpool. 1979
See, I can make shit up about people too!

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)21:12
No.7776909

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)21:12 No.7776909

Replies: >>7777008

File: 1354155120440.jpg-(58 KB, 800x532, poutine.jpg)

Canada fag checking in.

>It starts at home
We need to get parents on board here. I've noticed in my placement with my program that the kids who have shit parents are getting a far more shit education. We can't "entirely" blame the educational system. The first 7 years are most important, and half of that, the children are under the parents direct control entirely. We need to blame the parents first, then educators for not pushing their children hard enough, babyfying them, etc.

>Secondary languages optional
Psychology has taught us that knowing more than one language only has practical application for helping with some aspects (but not all) in memory. Languages such as French here, and Spanish in America, need to be made secondary/optional focuses

>Revamp what is taught
So I am a children studies/psychology student, and even I can see that the sciences and the mathematics needs to be reworked in both how they are taught, and when they are taught. Here and in America, it is a joke what is being taught. The stuff (such as trig intro, physics intro and bio/chem intro) was introduced in grade 8, with further basic principles being taught in grade 9, full courses available with specific content focus by grade 11. We still have the latter, but more foundational work earlier.

>Taxes, taxes, taxes
France as well as other nations have taught us that through a higher tax, we can achieve a better, stronger foundation for post secondary education. We need that. Sorry you have to pay $1.15 instead of $1.13 on your chocolate bar you fat cow, get over it.

>Understand we have failed
We have, we are, get over it. Only by educating the successive generations will there ever be a resolution to the educational crisis we are seeing.

H !h/sxmcRzt2
11/28/12(Wed)21:12
No.7776918

H !h/sxmcRzt2 11/28/12(Wed)21:12 No.7776918

Replies: >>7776978 >>7777037

>>7776780

Nigger please. Nigger and spic culture is all about fucking around and being a failure instead of actually making something of yourself. I'd love to live in your world of Lifetime Movies where OMG SPESHUL TEACHER HELPS MISUNDERSTUD INNER CITY CHILLINZ BE SMART, but I live in the real world, unfortunately.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)21:13
No.7776934

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)21:13 No.7776934

>>7776892
It's not just capitalism, it's because of heavy government influence. When you guarantee loans for students regardless of degree, or cover medical costs for specific high risk groups, you're going to create bubbles. This is exactly what happened with the housing market.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)21:13
No.7776945

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)21:13 No.7776945

Replies: >>7777043

>>7776709
American schools have different levels of classes.
Standard, Honors, AP. If a rich kid is smart he'll have no problems with niggers for he will be in the AP classes. The only advantage private schools have over public is the fact that they aren't being told by politicians what to teach and food.

What does /pol/ think of lunch food in America? We give our kids worse food than what prisoners get and prisoners get fed by the system whereas kids have to pay.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)21:13
No.7776947

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)21:13 No.7776947

>>7776858
Nah.

Quite honestly, we need people who understand MORE about American history.

Most Americans sum up American history as "We beat the British because AMERICA FUCK YEAH, founding fathers, then umm something something then the civil war was fought over slavery, then we beat the Germans in WW2, and then Ronald Reagan won the Cold War a while later because the damn commies tried to nuke us."

Most Americans know less than most foreigners about important shit like, say, the fucking Constitution.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)21:13
No.7776954

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)21:13 No.7776954

File: 1354155228397.jpg-(42 KB, 512x384, 1342828354204.jpg)

What people don't understand is that America is too big to copy finland.

If America had a amazing education system, then there would still be the same amount of unemployment. As there just isn't enough jobs to fill them.

Excluding Nursing, which is being filled by everyone and their grandma and Philippine invaders.

There isn't a big market for higher educated people, hell there isn't enough for the people already educated.

I'm in no way saying we shouldn't focus on education, far from it. But paying much higher taxes for schooling isn't going to magically fix this problem over night, or even in 20 or 30 fucking years.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)21:13
No.7776958

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)21:13 No.7776958

Replies: >>7777094

File: 1354155236794.jpg-(9 KB, 126x126, 1307529691004.jpg)

>>7776852
>Europe
>Small, ethnically and racially homogeneous countries

Jesus /pol/, whenever anyone brings up how Europe is successful everyone always falls to the homogeneous card but at the same time in another thread people are pointing how Europe is being overrun with niggers and Muslims and how hard they embrace multiculturalism

Decide on one thing or the other

fuck

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)21:13
No.7776960

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)21:13 No.7776960

>>7776025
>then for socialization of kids,
Are you retarded? Kids don't learn how to socialize at school at all.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)21:14
No.7776978

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)21:14 No.7776978

Replies: >>7777067 >>7777075 >>7777114

File: 1354155265539.jpg-(31 KB, 283x332, 1351306904496.jpg)

>>7776918
>Nigger and spic culture is all about fucking around and being a failure instead of actually making something of yourself
Shitty troll/10

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)21:14
No.7776984

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)21:14 No.7776984

>>7776830
Easy street? Well, didn't want to drag that into it but I guess it'd work.
Also fuck you America, and fuck your Ebonics. Education in Australia is almost as bad as yours since you brought that shit in as serious academia, and muddied everyone's thinking about what is important to teach kids about language. We've got an entire generation of illiterates who believe "It's not important how you spell words, it's the message in your essay that matters.", and as a result they don't even know enough words to convey the meaning in what they write.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)21:15
No.7777000

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)21:15 No.7777000

Replies: >>7777045 >>7777150

>>7776866
Enough people do drive that it really is something everyone should know.

I also think self defense should be taught in required physical ed courses instead of useless shit like basketball. I'd also bring back rifle teams, voluntary of course (and funded by the students who join, maybe)

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)21:15
No.7777008

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)21:15 No.7777008

>>7776909
>France as well as other nations have taught us that through a higher tax, we can achieve a better, stronger foundation for post secondary education.
Nope. At least give it a year after France's suicide move before calling it. It's not like they respect the opinion of the Quebecois anyways.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)21:16
No.7777025

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)21:16 No.7777025

>>7776779
Australia's education system is almost as bad as Americas. The government has been caught multiple times fudging literacy and math rates in the population, but to admit anything else would mean they'd have to spend money educating Australians, when they can get paid to take in Indians with cereal-box qualifications instead.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)21:16
No.7777037

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)21:16 No.7777037

>>7776918
Which is where the media are happy to keep them. Kids are fed with Gangster Ghetto mentality, even white kids. Black rappers talking about doing dope and going to jail are idolised and publicized by a certain group of people, creating this auroa that being a thug is cool and going to jail an achievement.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)21:16
No.7777043

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)21:16 No.7777043

Replies: >>7777138

>>7776945
>We give our kids worse food than what prisoners get and prisoners get fed by the system whereas kids have to pay.
Like two fucking dollars. And if you're even that poor we have food subsidies that feed yo kid for free.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)21:16
No.7777045

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)21:16 No.7777045

File: 1354155413160.jpg-(20 KB, 160x106, 38933.jpg)

>>7777000
Quadtrips

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)21:17
No.7777055

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)21:17 No.7777055

>>7776866
I think, as a society, students need a good grounding in the classics (like Shakespeare and shit) AND the ability to learn to analyze modern media.

Most people take literary analysis to be something only done on "high school lit" which is retarded.

Oh, yeah, and high schools should have a religions course, if only to slowly educate out retards who use the term "islamofascist" unironically.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)21:17
No.7777067

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)21:17 No.7777067

>>7776978
Sorry, we don't consider a big time drug dealer to be "making something" of yourself.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)21:17
No.7777072

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)21:17 No.7777072

File: 1354155476084.jpg-(222 KB, 636x1333, reading.jpg)

>>7776907

He's actually correct thing. Whites in the us outperforms whites in other countries.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)21:18
No.7777075

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)21:18 No.7777075

>>7776978
But.. But that's true.
Saying their culture is about achieving anything is like saying Death metal is about God, because there's an occasional christian death metal band.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)21:18
No.7777094

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)21:18 No.7777094

File: 1354155524302.jpg-(54 KB, 462x350, free-market-big-gov.jpg)

>>7776958
The percentage of Muslims in euroland is no where near the level of Latinos and Blacks in America town. That is just a taste of what the US government has to deal with every goddam day.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)21:19
No.7777103

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)21:19 No.7777103

Replies: >>7777179

File: 1354155542656.jpg-(147 KB, 300x300, 20100803_Aussie.jpg)

australia used to have universal free education for universities. But people used to take advantage of it and just enroll in courses while collecting welfare money. So now we have something called hecs fee's for university education its essentially a loan you take from the government who pays for your education and once you start earn a certain wage you begin to pay it back through your taxes. Although you don't pay full price.
We have both full free primary and secondary schools. With private school education.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)21:19
No.7777114

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)21:19 No.7777114

>>7776978
welcome to /pol/, you must be new here

Orgasm!
11/28/12(Wed)21:19
No.7777124

Orgasm! 11/28/12(Wed)21:19 No.7777124

UK here.

We've had both state education and private education for several centuries.

It's been conclusively proven, and decide that private education and segregation is far better for all parties involved, because in education you always have to cater to the lowest common denominator, and so the government is slowly scrapping the state education system in favour of a much more effective private education system, with state provided vouchers for those who can't pay. You'll still need to get the grades to go to them though.

It's known as the "academy" system.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)21:20
No.7777131

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)21:20 No.7777131

Eliminate the Department of Education.

Don't listen to idiots who think a welfare state that works in countries with the largest per capita trade surplusses in the world is going to work in a country with massive trade defecits.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)21:20
No.7777138

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)21:20 No.7777138

Replies: >>7777157 >>7777177

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>>7777043
$2 dollars for this piece of shit.
We are literally the laughing stock of the world when it comes to lunch food. And don't you dare defend this disgusting capitalistic practice.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)21:20
No.7777150

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)21:20 No.7777150

>>7777000
>Enough people do drive that it really is something everyone should know.
In my state, driver's ed was the required responsibility of the person getting the license. I think this is best instead of subsidizing it through public education. I didn't learn any car maintenance during those classes though, which is something they should include I agree.

I also think self defense would be a great idea in some schools (beyond gay ass wrassling which we did). The potential for injury and lawsuits seems to make it prohibitive, however.

Orgasm!
11/28/12(Wed)21:21
No.7777157

Orgasm! 11/28/12(Wed)21:21 No.7777157

>>7777138
>capitalistic practice
>state education system

Pick one.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)21:21
No.7777162

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)21:21 No.7777162

Our system is fine, we have the best test scores in the world, and no, we don't need to teach how to fix a fucking car or balance a checkbook, that is things you learn by living, the school is to teach things you can only learn by listening.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)21:21
No.7777177

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)21:21 No.7777177

Replies: >>7777191

>>7777138
Just bring your own damn food then.

Consider it an education in being thankful for the food on your table. In many countries, children would not be so lucky.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)21:21
No.7777179

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)21:21 No.7777179

>>7777103
Don't forget when the government forecast that we'd have too many academics, so they increased the cost of university courses by a factor of 10, then after 10 years realised it was a stupid idea and frantically started importing Indian academics.

Anonymous
11/28/12(Wed)21:22
No.7777191

Anonymous 11/28/12(Wed)21:22 No.7777191

>>7777177
>7777177
A lot of schools are cracking down and banning people bringing their own food, no shit.