Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:10
No.7729598

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:10 No.7729598

Replies: >>7729613 >>7729774

>>7729559 (OP)
Europe would.

Check the level of insanity those bastards get on during wars. They just don't stop until everyone is dead, man.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:11
No.7729605

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:11 No.7729605

Replies: >>7729618

I still say Goku wins.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:11
No.7729613

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:11 No.7729613

Replies: >>7729640 >>7729668

>>7729598
Europe?

> No centrilized army command
> Only legit navy belongs to the UK

Nah

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:12
No.7729618

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:12 No.7729618

Replies: >>7730684

>>7729605
agreed, goku could probably beat america

I'm just here to look at the pictures
11/27/12(Tue)09:14
No.7729640

I'm just here to look at the pictures 11/27/12(Tue)09:14 No.7729640

Replies: >>7729745

>>7729613

Learn to spell "Centralised"

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:14
No.7729646

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:14 No.7729646

Nope. Not even a united Europe can take them, because America's navy and air force would still totally outmatch them.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:14
No.7729649

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:14 No.7729649

Replies: >>7729696 >>7729713

File: 1354025695027.jpg-(19 KB, 576x183, Navy Comparison.jpg)

>>7729559 (OP)
> How about an alliance between China and Russia. Could they beat the US ?

Even with all their forces combined, they don't have the air and sea lift capability to carry a war to U.S. soil.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:15
No.7729652

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:15 No.7729652

>>7729559 (OP)
With both civilian militia and the military defending America, they will hold out nigh-indefinitely. America is large, they have a huge population, plenty of guns and plenty of places to hide.

Not to mention most of the country has been planning for an invasion and a guerrilla resistance since the movie Red Dawn came out in the 80s.

>WOLVERIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINES

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:15
No.7729663

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:15 No.7729663

Why is Putin blowing up a nova?

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:16
No.7729665

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:16 No.7729665

Replies: >>7729716 >>7729725

>China by itself could not beat the US.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:16
No.7729668

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:16 No.7729668

>>7729613
>implying they couldn't make more ships than the US if they wanted to
they also have the weapons tech, over twice the population and, if you consider russia as part of europe, well...

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:16
No.7729675

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:16 No.7729675

Replies: >>7729716

The US couldn't even beat Vietnam, what makes you think they can beat China or Russia?

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:17
No.7729687

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:17 No.7729687

Replies: >>7729725 >>7730143

"What would it take to beat the US of A in a conventional war ?"
By waging it unconventionally.
Near-Earth asteroid strikes 50 meters in diameter on all major population centers and military strongholds. Wait for the global winter to pass for the next couple of years, and collect the spoils.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:17
No.7729696

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:17 No.7729696

Replies: >>7729918 >>7729979

>>7729649
This

Land wars outside the territory of the US can be won. But bringing the war to the US soil is nigh impossibile.
How about the whole world VS the US.
No nukes allowed.
Who wins ?

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:17
No.7729697

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:17 No.7729697

yuropoors are incredibly delusional. their militaries are worthless paper tigers that are basically considered an unemployment reduction measure by their governments.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:17
No.7729705

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:17 No.7729705

I suspect that any such war would be interminable and end with all parties exhausted and no clear winner. Its also entirely plausible that NBC weapons would be used in such a war.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:18
No.7729713

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:18 No.7729713

Replies: >>7730093

>>7729649

They would airlift into Canada from Russia over the north pole or through Alaska.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:18
No.7729716

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:18 No.7729716

>>7729665
>implying China could beat the US

>>7729675

The USA excels at waging conventional war. Just look at how quickly they streamrolled Saddam. On the other hand, militaries that are good at conventional wars typically fail guerrilla wars.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:18
No.7729719

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:18 No.7729719

If China or Russia invade America, America wins.

If America invades Asia, China and Russia win.

Really "conquering" any of these two sides is a logistical nightmare. This war would be much more like the Cold War than any World War.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:19
No.7729725

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:19 No.7729725

>>7729665
Don't be silly nigger

>>7729687
> Implying reality is like Starship Troopers

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:20
No.7729738

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:20 No.7729738

Replies: >>7729771

Air force matters most, China currently have the biggest.

They could fuck most countries.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:20
No.7729745

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:20 No.7729745

Replies: >>7729762

>>7729640

lol euro

I'm just here to look at the pictures
11/27/12(Tue)09:21
No.7729762

I'm just here to look at the pictures 11/27/12(Tue)09:21 No.7729762

Replies: >>7729828 >>7729844 >>7729859

>>7729745

nice flag brah

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:22
No.7729771

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:22 No.7729771

Replies: >>7729812

>>7729738
>China currently have the biggest.

The USAF is larger, and more technologically advanced to boot.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:22
No.7729774

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:22 No.7729774

Replies: >>7729870 >>7729898

>>7729598
>Europe

With the exception of maybe Britain people there literally despise their own soldiers, they wouldn't be able to beat fucking mexico

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:25
No.7729812

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:25 No.7729812

Replies: >>7729836 >>7729847

>>7729771
Pretty sure China have way more fighters and pilots, also the technological differences is a matter of time.

Of course if you want to talk about drones, that is a different story.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:25
No.7729828

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:25 No.7729828

>>7729762

Okay, your flag is just ironic.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:26
No.7729833

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:26 No.7729833

Replies: >>7729851

no war would be fought with just military strength. to go out and attack a strong country with reserves of supplies would be retarded.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:26
No.7729836

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:26 No.7729836

Replies: >>7729893

>>7729812
>technological differences is a matter of time.
In a war, this is precisely what you don't have.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:26
No.7729840

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:26 No.7729840

Replies: >>7729865

China + Russia + Anybody else could easily destroy all of the US military bases and personell all over the globe.
Going to invade the US, on the other hand, is literally impossible.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:27
No.7729844

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:27 No.7729844

>>7729762

Right back at ya, bruv.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:27
No.7729847

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:27 No.7729847

Replies: >>7729863 >>7729893

>>7729812

USAF has more personnel and more planes. Not to mention that both the Navy and Marines also have their own planes and pilots. Also, aircraft carriers.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:27
No.7729851

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:27 No.7729851

Replies: >>7729887

>>7729833

> Quoting: "The Art of War" -Sun Tzu (page 1, paragraph 1).

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:27
No.7729859

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:27 No.7729859

>>7729762
OH THE IRONING!

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:28
No.7729863

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:28 No.7729863

>>7729847

The Army also has it's own helicopters.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:28
No.7729865

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:28 No.7729865

Replies: >>7729879 >>7729901 >>7729923

>>7729840
>Going to invade the US, on the other hand, is literally impossible.

not at all.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:28
No.7729870

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:28 No.7729870

Replies: >>7729899

>>7729774
french here
yeah we hate the army

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:28
No.7729872

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:28 No.7729872

>>7729559 (OP)
itd take more then the world has, hells bells op american even fought itself back in the day

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:28
No.7729879

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:28 No.7729879

>>7729865

Yeah, happens all the time.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:29
No.7729887

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:29 No.7729887

Replies: >>7729896

>>7729851

No shit?

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:29
No.7729893

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:29 No.7729893

Replies: >>7729909

>>7729836
But they aren't at war, so I guess they have time.

>>7729847
Not sure, i'd agree with you on the numbers.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:29
No.7729896

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:29 No.7729896

>>7729887

No shit, anon.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:29
No.7729897

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:29 No.7729897

You would need Canada or Mexico as a staging ground, and you would need at least two of the following militaries:

1. China
2. Russia
3. The EU (collectively)

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:30
No.7729898

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:30 No.7729898

>>7729774
France and the UK have great militaries.

The rest have about 100 highly trained but inexperienced men between them.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:30
No.7729899

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:30 No.7729899

>>7729870
is that why you have the french foreign legion? i read a book about and boy o' boy do the french have a fetish for bureaucracy

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:30
No.7729901

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:30 No.7729901

Replies: >>7729929

>>7729865

It should've said "invading the US and winning is literally impossible."

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:30
No.7729906

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:30 No.7729906

Replies: >>7729926

no nukes? no

nukes? no

ideological war from within? yes, we already lost that war which started in earnest during the 50s through cultural Marxism but actually began in the mid 1800s with the jews.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:30
No.7729909

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:30 No.7729909

Replies: >>7729920

>>7729893
>But they aren't at war, so I guess they have time.
You don't think the US is going to... just stop development?

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:30
No.7729918

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:30 No.7729918

File: 1354026657018.jpg-(461 KB, 1600x1032, s1448475.jpg)

>>7729696
> How about the whole world VS the US.

In that case, a foothold could be established on the East and West coasts but the attempt would be so costly,
that these bridgeheads would be unsupportable afterwards and the isolated invasion forces would eventually
be overrun.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:31
No.7729920

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:31 No.7729920

Replies: >>7729944 >>7729947 >>7729955

>>7729909
I think the chinese will advance quicker actually.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:31
No.7729923

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:31 No.7729923

Replies: >>7729940 >>7729969

>>7729865
When was the last time it happened?

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:31
No.7729926

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:31 No.7729926

>>7729906

> Implying this isn't how America works to begin with.

Wag your own ideological war if you don't like it.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:31
No.7729929

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:31 No.7729929

>>7729901
not at all. really not at all.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:31
No.7729940

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:31 No.7729940

Replies: >>7729965

>>7729923
War of 1812

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:32
No.7729944

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:32 No.7729944

>>7729920

Is this based on any kind of solid proof or evidence, or did you feel like being contrary because everyone else agrees China would get bitch-slapped?

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:32
No.7729947

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:32 No.7729947

>>7729920

Doubt it. There's no reason for American weapons R&D to stagnate.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:32
No.7729948

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:32 No.7729948

Replies: >>7729980 >>7729987 >>7730007 >>7730010 >>7730049 >>7730251 >>7730388

Europoor here.

ofc nobody can beat the US in a conventional war, which is why all their talk of "defending the US" is total fucking bullshit and they are schoolyard bullies stealing the worlds lunchmoney.

They have literally never fought a real war in their entire history. You have never faced elimination like the rest of us. You dont know what war is, it isnt fucking reality TV you spoiled idiots.

how much empathy do you think people will have when you finally bite off more than you can chew?

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:32
No.7729950

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:32 No.7729950

Replies: >>7729981

Russia, China and the US cannot be invaded successfully and held without horrendous losses and nobody would try.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:32
No.7729955

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:32 No.7729955

Replies: >>7730021

>>7729920
im not that guy, but whatta mean advance quicker? as in get use to war rationing quicker? or just gain land faster?

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:33
No.7729965

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:33 No.7729965

>>7729940

> 1812
> There were only 17 states in the Union, 18 later in the year.

Different story now, anon.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:33
No.7729969

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:33 No.7729969

Replies: >>7730006 >>7730009

>>7729923
because something has never happened makes it literally impossible.
are you that stupid?

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:34
No.7729979

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:34 No.7729979

Replies: >>7730032 >>7730500

>>7729696
The whole world means fronts at the continent-wide canadian and mexican borders, so yeah, the world wins no contest.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:34
No.7729980

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:34 No.7729980

>>7729948
>Civil War
>Not real
You stupid?

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:34
No.7729981

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:34 No.7729981

>>7729950
civil war seems to be the only real threat against them

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:34
No.7729987

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:34 No.7729987

>>7729948
>they are schoolyard bullies stealing the worlds lunchmoney

We gave the world a shot after WWI and tried to be isolationists... but no... you had to start a tariff war and WWII and BEG us to join in (not to mention force our hand).

Really, the world has no one to blame but itself for getting the US in position as hegemony.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:35
No.7730006

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:35 No.7730006

Replies: >>7730067

>>7729969

I'd say it's pretty good supporting evidence that's it's nearly impossible.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:35
No.7730007

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:35 No.7730007

Replies: >>7730060

>>7729948
>They have literally never fought a real war in their entire history. You have never faced elimination like the rest of us.

>what is the bloodbath known as the American Civil War

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:35
No.7730009

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:35 No.7730009

>>7729969
How can it happen?

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:35
No.7730010

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:35 No.7730010

Replies: >>7730069

>>7729948
>civil war
>war that means your country, and your culture ceases to exist
pick one. Idiot.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:36
No.7730021

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:36 No.7730021

Replies: >>7730098

>>7729955
Well China is already gaining land at an amazing rate through economics. They don't need conflict for that.

I genuinely believe the next setting for large scale war will be decided through air superiority, this can now be attained through drones. My opinion is that China will mass produce these through cheaper means than many other countries.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:36
No.7730032

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:36 No.7730032

>>7729979
Ok. How about Canada and Mexico are neutral and will not allow anybody to cross their borders.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:37
No.7730049

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:37 No.7730049

>>7729948
cant wait till we annex canada and mexico and steamroll over everybody that isn't apart of the great North America United powerhouse

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:38
No.7730060

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:38 No.7730060

Replies: >>7730094 >>7730429 >>7730521

>>7730007
your country woulda still been there in some form. Your culture woulda been there. Your way of life would not have changed much. Your civilian population would not have been enslaved or exterminated.

whos the idiot now, you idiotic idiot? Your little civil war was nothing in comparison to a real war.

perhaps you should fund your schools a bit better neh?

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:38
No.7730067

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:38 No.7730067

Replies: >>7730074

>>7730006
no it is not, its not evidence at all.

its not even been attempted on the whole country.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:38
No.7730069

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:38 No.7730069

>>7730010

What is "Yugoslavia" for $300, Alex?

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:39
No.7730074

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:39 No.7730074

Replies: >>7730129

>>7730067

> Japan
And they couldn't do more than bomb and island.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:40
No.7730093

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:40 No.7730093

Replies: >>7730186

File: 1354027214255.gif-(43 KB, 200x243, 4534.gif)

>>7729713
> They would airlift into Canada from Russia over the north pole or through Alaska.

Implying the U.S. military would just stand by and let them do that.

Not to mention there aren't enough aircraft in the world (and this includes civilian fleets)
to maintain the invading forces once they got there (those that lived long enough to land).

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:40
No.7730094

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:40 No.7730094

Replies: >>7730128

>>7730060
>your country woulda still been there in some form. Your culture woulda been there. Your way of life would not have changed much. Your civilian population would not have been enslaved or exterminated.

Unless the Confederates won, of course.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:40
No.7730098

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:40 No.7730098

Replies: >>7730107 >>7730124 >>7730142

>>7730021
the us has drones that fly 6000-30000 feet in the air and dots targets so satellites can send bombs in and not blow up but just lay underground in case shit goes down , and thats just what we tell people about

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:41
No.7730107

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:41 No.7730107

>>7730098

Even the stuff you DO know about they lie, so you can't even be certain about THAT.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:41
No.7730111

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:41 No.7730111

Replies: >>7730130 >>7730177 >>7730222 >>7730237

People assume that because US got pretty neat technic, they army is powerful, which is bullshit. Soldiers is what wins wars and building an army on some middle class pussys should couldnt get into college wont take you far.

Just look at their military history, slapped silly by sand niggers.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:41
No.7730124

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:41 No.7730124

>>7730098
>mfw you barely hear a word about the Chinese drone programs

Better hang onto your anus.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:42
No.7730128

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:42 No.7730128

>>7730094
oh whatta dream that'd be

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:42
No.7730129

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:42 No.7730129

>>7730074
when did japan commit to an invasion of the united states mainland?

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:42
No.7730130

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:42 No.7730130

Replies: >>7730311

>>7730111
>Soldiers is what wins wars

No, ships and planes are what win wars, at least in the 21st century.

>slapped silly by sand niggers.

So were the Soviets.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:43
No.7730142

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:43 No.7730142

Replies: >>7730209

>>7730098
bombs in space.
really?
you aware of the cost to lift something into space?

stop being dense. Yes the US military is formidable, no they arent gonna waste cash on thor-shots or any other silly scifi bullshit.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:43
No.7730143

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:43 No.7730143

Replies: >>7730168 >>7730203 >>7730298

>>7729687
>Near-Earth asteroid strikes 50 meters in diameter on all major population centers and military strongholds.

How is Russia going to capture asteroids? Soyuz?

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:44
No.7730168

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:44 No.7730168

>>7730143
really big nets mounted to tractors.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:44
No.7730177

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:44 No.7730177

>>7730111
sandniggers arent, red tape is. lets cut away that red tape and see how fast it'll take for ol' glory to smush'em

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:45
No.7730185

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:45 No.7730185

Replies: >>7730258

>>7729559 (OP)
>conventional war

I don't even know what that means anymore.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:45
No.7730186

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:45 No.7730186

>>7730093

There is no infrastructure in the north to support a large military presence, all the supplies would need to be brought with the soldiers. Also you could drive across the ice in the winter.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:45
No.7730203

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:45 No.7730203

Replies: >>7730232 >>7730598

>>7730143
Theoretically you could wipe out a lot of the east coast through a tidal wave.

There is a earth slide waiting to happen (can't remember where) that could easily be detonated to cause a tidal wave.

I call it geological warfare.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:46
No.7730208

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:46 No.7730208

Replies: >>7730244 >>7730276 >>7730321

You see this is why we have guns and that is why the United States can never be envaded. Look how that turned out for the British in 1812. A bunch of rednecks with guns

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:46
No.7730209

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:46 No.7730209

>>7730142
you bigger dummy, the satellites don't have the bombs they just guide them, you really think we just float bombs up in space? like mother fuckin' redbull style? get ya head outta ya ass shitdick

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:46
No.7730222

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:46 No.7730222

Replies: >>7730366

>>7730111

And yet, if this is true, we still have better equipped and better trained soldiers.

So enjoy that anal-pain.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:47
No.7730232

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:47 No.7730232

Replies: >>7730252

>>7730203
canary islands.
Thought it was debunked theory though.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:47
No.7730237

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:47 No.7730237

>>7730111
>Just look at their military history, slapped silly by sand niggers.

If that's what you call two destroyed countries, the rest keeping their mouths shut, and a decade of occupation...

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:48
No.7730244

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:48 No.7730244

Replies: >>7730366

>>7730208
exactly, every redneck i've known in my life are falling over themselves to defend america. the trick with america is you gotta kill all of us at the same time

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:48
No.7730251

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:48 No.7730251

Replies: >>7730273 >>7730282

>>7729948
>They have literally never fought a real war in their entire history.

This is a stupid thing to say and you are a stupid person for saying it.

The next time you europeans start a world war, why don't you handle it yourselves. Don't beg America to save your ungrateful asses.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:48
No.7730252

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:48 No.7730252

>>7730232
I was gonna say cannary's. Never heard the debunk.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:48
No.7730258

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:48 No.7730258

>>7730185

It's just the difference between using Geneva approved tactics and strategies (conventional) and gurella warfare (unconventional).

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:48
No.7730260

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:48 No.7730260

Replies: >>7730340

>>7729559 (OP)
Frankly in a totally conventional war the entire world couldn't defeat the US. They pay for 70% of the military expenditure in Europe via NATO. Russia have vast reserves of material but no ability to deploy them, and they are in poor repair. China likewise has no ability to deploy its forces. Europe is practically disarmed in its current state and can't effectively project power to the Balkans or North Africa.

There are area denial tactics that could check the US Anti-shipping Ballistic missiles are not very effective but they can keep carriers at a distance when combined with deisel subs laying in wait on the continental shelf armed with supercavitating torpedoes. Huge volumes of conventional anti-shipping missiles might also get through the screen erected by the escorts but it is getting less likely every year.

The US is not invincible but it rightly deserves the title of Hegemon

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:49
No.7730273

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:49 No.7730273

Replies: >>7730283

>>7730251
>implying WWII was not unconventional by definition and the standards of the time

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:49
No.7730276

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:49 No.7730276

Replies: >>7730294 >>7730338

>>7730208
wow even knowledge of your own history is shit.
No need to invade just let you dumbasses kill yourselves.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:50
No.7730282

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:50 No.7730282

Replies: >>7730306 >>7730307

>>7730251
>implying the US was important in beating the axis in WW2.
>implying it wasnt USSR that did all the work
>implying americans dont always take credit like the jew faggots they are.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:50
No.7730283

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:50 No.7730283

>>7730273

Yeah, nah, it was the opposite.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:50
No.7730294

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:50 No.7730294

Replies: >>7730379

>>7730276

> This is the best you have, cause no one else can do it.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:51
No.7730298

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:51 No.7730298

>>7730143
The US has a weapon where it can drop large metal poles from space. its more deadly than a warhead. its the final form of siege warfare. srsz

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_bombardment

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:51
No.7730306

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:51 No.7730306

Replies: >>7730854

>>7730282
>>implying it wasnt USSR that did all the work

Yeah, and they did it with American trucks, American tanks, American jeeps and American cans of Spam.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:51
No.7730307

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:51 No.7730307

>>7730282

Someone's mad.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:51
No.7730311

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:51 No.7730311

Replies: >>7730347 >>7730607

>>7730130
>No, ships and planes are what win wars, at least in the 21st century.
Winning wars by bombing stuff, really? Look how great it worked in Vietnam. At some point you still have to endage the enemy on ground.

>So were the Soviets.
This is ignoring the numbers though. Besides the Mujahadeen were better armed than the Soviets too, supported by the west and all.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:52
No.7730321

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:52 No.7730321

Replies: >>7730392 >>7730569

>>7730208
from 1800-1900 The UK was involved on the winning side of nearly 100 wars and successfully beat Russia, France, China, and most of Africa. You really think that rednecks with guns had no help from anyone?

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:53
No.7730338

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:53 No.7730338

Replies: >>7730450

>>7730276
he glossed over a couple facts sure, namely the french helping, but you got the point and now you're just upset so either stop with the insults or back them up euroboy

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:53
No.7730340

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:53 No.7730340

Replies: >>7730402

>>7730260
http://www.globalfirepower.com/

The real advantage of the US has been logistics since WW2. They move more shit than everybody else could combined. They don't even have a merchant marine because the Navy essentially has shipping companies working as serfs to its whim.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:53
No.7730347

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:53 No.7730347

Replies: >>7730389 >>7730422

>>7730311

But we're discussing a hypothetical conventional war here. The US would win it easily. Even then, American land forces are also the best in the world.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:54
No.7730366

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:54 No.7730366

Replies: >>7730383 >>7730398 >>7730472

>>7730222
Did I denie the better equippment?

The soldiers are the problem though, way too much of a pussy.

>>7730244
>implying some fat retard with a gun is a threat

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:55
No.7730379

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:55 No.7730379

>>7730294
Taking america is easy.
just invent a new type of coke, put it on a tv show and 350 million mewling fat cattle enslaved.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:55
No.7730383

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:55 No.7730383

Replies: >>7730512

>>7730366
>way too much of a pussy.

I'd like to know where you get this notion.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:56
No.7730388

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:56 No.7730388

>>7729948
>Revolutionary War

>War of 1812
>burnt down Canadian capital and had own capital burnt down
>ended in a draw

>Civil War

But more to the point, after WW2 they lost the vast majority of western forces fucking with the Soviets.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:56
No.7730389

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:56 No.7730389

Replies: >>7730412 >>7730430

>>7730347
>best in the world
See, threads like these turn into American ego driven circle jerks.

>Nobody could beat us!
Yeah, a few nations could.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:56
No.7730392

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:56 No.7730392

Replies: >>7730515

>>7730321

> More than a century ago...
Meh... And you say 100 wars, but really it was more like 100 skirmishes.

Funny how my captcha is: skirmishes hlegula

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:56
No.7730398

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:56 No.7730398

Replies: >>7730512

>>7730366
oh you think rednecks are stupid about guns? do ho ho well okay fine, come and invade the USA, youll get sniped off by them stupid redneck a mile from your landing position. so remember you dont gotta be smart to pull a trigger

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:56
No.7730402

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:56 No.7730402

>>7730340
>The real advantage of the US has been logistics since WW2.
This. 125% this.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:57
No.7730412

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:57 No.7730412

Replies: >>7730449 >>7730531 >>7730665

>>7730389
>See, threads like these turn into American ego driven circle jerks.

But American land forces really are the best in the world.

>Yeah, a few nations could.

Nope. Being realistic, no nation could beat the United States in a conventional war.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:57
No.7730422

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:57 No.7730422

Replies: >>7730445 >>7730447

>>7730347
>hypothetical conventional war here. The US would win it easily
Till it comes to the real deciding war, okay I give you that.

>American land forces are also the best in the world.
This is why they didnt win a single war? Look at Vietnam, Somalia, Iraq, Afghanistan, superiorly armed american land forces, having the numbers too, got nothing on some sand niggers with shit from the 60s.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:57
No.7730424

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:57 No.7730424

File: 1354028277928.jpg-(61 KB, 627x658, 1351368616077.jpg)

>>7777777

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:58
No.7730429

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:58 No.7730429

>>7730060
>Your little civil war was nothing in comparison to a real war.
Fully half of all Southern townships were burnt down. Mericans loving burning shit.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:58
No.7730430

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:58 No.7730430

Replies: >>7730466 >>7730488

>>7730389
>See, threads like these turn into American ego driven circle jerks.

Did you not read the OP?

I tell you what, give us something to work with. Something tangible other than, "I just believe they can do it!" and we'll listen. I promise.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:59
No.7730445

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:59 No.7730445

Replies: >>7730572

>>7730422
>This is why they didnt win a single war?

No, we won those. The problem is the public image looked otherwise, and you bought into it.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:59
No.7730447

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:59 No.7730447

Replies: >>7730572

>>7730422
okay i give ya iraq and afghanistan, but vietnam and somalia were operations not wars

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:59
No.7730449

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:59 No.7730449

Replies: >>7730466 >>7730565

>>7730412
>But American land forces really are the best in the world.
But no their not. I'm sorry, but it just isn't true.

>Nope. Being realistic, no nation could beat the United States in a conventional war.
This, again. Just isn't true.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)09:59
No.7730450

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:59 No.7730450

Replies: >>7730481 >>7730490

>>7730338
back up what?
the fact that some retard thinks that america beat the british empire with just some rednecks and guns, forgetting the massive french help and the fact that at the time the UK was fighting a number of wars.
or maybe back up the fact that the USA could and will one day be invaded. and one day it will fall. To think otherwise is really stupid.
but for the most part the USA will wipe itself out of the gene pool long before anyone goes to invade.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:00
No.7730466

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:00 No.7730466

Replies: >>7730501

>>7730449

see

>>7730430

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:00
No.7730472

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:00 No.7730472

Replies: >>7730572

>>7730366
>The soldiers are the problem though, way too much of a pussy.

Compared to who? You? Are you Fremen? Are you a Space Marine? What civilization of warriors do you come from, that gives you the right to call anyone "pussy"?

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:00
No.7730476

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:00 No.7730476

Just defend well and wait for the Americans to blow themselves up.

Or have snipers take out all their basketballs and xboxes in their base, then wait for their forces to just start raping each other to death.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:00
No.7730481

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:00 No.7730481

>>7730450
so you're admitting defeat?

USA USA USA

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:00
No.7730488

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:00 No.7730488

Replies: >>7730501 >>7730503

>>7730430
So you can ignore it, stick your fingers in your ears a hum a tune like US posters do anytime someone tells them they aren't number one?

Sure.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:00
No.7730490

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:00 No.7730490

Replies: >>7730648

>>7730450
>one day be invaded. and one day it will fall.
But not today. Not tomorrow. Not a year from now. Not a decade.

You have a really long wait.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:01
No.7730493

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:01 No.7730493

Fremens are cool as fuck

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:01
No.7730500

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:01 No.7730500

File: 1354028497250.jpg-(218 KB, 1600x1120, annex canada.jpg)

>>7729979
>implying we wouldn't invade both of them first.
>implying the Old World could move its forces to Canada and Mexico when they are out tonnaged 2 to one by the US Navy
>imply no power armor in Alaska

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:01
No.7730501

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:01 No.7730501

>>7730466

see

>>7730488

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:01
No.7730503

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:01 No.7730503

Replies: >>7730506 >>7730542

>>7730488

So you're not offering anything, even with your superior *whateverattitudethisissupposedtobe*?

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:02
No.7730506

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:02 No.7730506

>>7730503

USA! USA! USA!

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:02
No.7730511

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:02 No.7730511

Replies: >>7730794 >>7730807

>>7729559 (OP)
If there was at any stage a world war between Europe and the USA that did not result in thermonuclear war, it would initially be massive casualties on the European side, and then slowly the European war machine would grind into gear like a locomotive. After 5 years, Europe would overtake the US in military size, technology and navy. And their naval production per year would be half the current size of the US navy.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:02
No.7730512

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:02 No.7730512

Replies: >>7730545 >>7730565

>>7730383
Besides the obvious failures, something like

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/04/iraq-afghanistan-war-veterans-combat-trauma_n_1645701.html

>tl;tr: Almost a quarter million Iraq or Afghanistan vets have been diagnosed with mental health injuries from combat service. Many more are not diagnosed, yet go on with their lives while experiencing short-term memory loss, headaches, insomnia, anger or numbness

>>7730398
>you dont gotta be smart to pull a trigger
Very true but before he can finish the second shot, the faggot would be penetrated himself.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:02
No.7730515

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:02 No.7730515

>>7730392
>1812 war
>more than a century ago
>that is the point

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:03
No.7730521

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:03 No.7730521

>>7730060

My God, the stupid in the post hurts.

>Your way of life would not have changed much
Tell that to the millions of Southern families who were wiped out, ruined economically, or driven from the country, chief.

>Your civilian population would not have been enslaved or exterminated
Wrong. Prisoner of wars on both sides were enslaved and tortured. And many years afterward, people still killed each other over the Civil War.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:03
No.7730531

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:03 No.7730531

Replies: >>7730560

>>7730412
>But American land forces really are the best in the world.
nope even the american military know this.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:04
No.7730542

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:04 No.7730542

Replies: >>7730571

>>7730503
Yeah, we can say this nation has better trained troops or a bigger air-force or how bad a certain nation has done over it's military history.

But there you go, fingers in ears again.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:04
No.7730545

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:04 No.7730545

>>7730512
and another would take his place, ever since the civil war southerns have been getting ready for an outside invasion, what you think rednecks are a novelty? a joke? they are just the first ones you'll meet, then ya got the gangsters defending their "turf" and then ya got the regular people with guns, and THEN the military may step in if the citizens dont have it in the bag already

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:05
No.7730560

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:05 No.7730560

>>7730531

Yeah, that Republican Guard Saddam had, those land fighting elites, they sure turned the tide, huh?

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:05
No.7730565

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:05 No.7730565

Replies: >>7730614 >>7730627

>>7730512

PTSD is not a uniquely American problem. It also does not make you a pussy if you suffer from it. Thousands of soldiers were executed for it during WW1.

>>7730449
>This, again. Just isn't true.

Yeah, how so? The US has the most advanced and well-funded military in the world, and it's also pretty huge.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:06
No.7730569

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:06 No.7730569

Replies: >>7730586

>>7730321
>implying the point of the Revolutionary war was not to make the Colonies unprofitable to hold
>implying we don't mention the monetary assistance of France and the one armada of 25 ships the French sent late in the war. You forget that those rednecks were Englishmen who had crushed the French and Algonquins 20 years earlier in the French/Indian War. They were better trained for frontier fighting than the British.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:06
No.7730571

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:06 No.7730571

Replies: >>7730614

>>7730542
Ask for something useful... get this...
>But there you go, fingers in ears again.

You're in denial.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:06
No.7730572

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:06 No.7730572

Replies: >>7730610 >>7730659

>>7730447
Call them how you want. America went into an armed conflict and couldnt do shit. Sounds like a lose from me.

>>7730445
Tell me how you "won" them please.

>>7730472
You ever saw Russian soldiers? This niggers are fucking hardcore, no fucking idea about Chinese but they look more dependable too, though this one is just guessing I give you that.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:06
No.7730579

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:06 No.7730579

Replies: >>7730588 >>7730619 >>7730630

well:

1. Vietnam beat USA in a 20 year war
2. Afghanistan have achieved at least a draw against USA in a 10 year war
3. Cuba continues to win a 50+ year and counting war with USA (better life expectancy, better education, than USA)

you can make this masturbatory threads all you want, but whenever push comes to shove, you tend to lose wars, against nothing opponents.

I would fancy France on their own, against the US, let alone Europe

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:07
No.7730586

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:07 No.7730586

>>7730569

I like how they treat the Revolutionary war like a conventional war and pretend it's the same.

The colonies were fighting an unconventional war. Plain and simple.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:07
No.7730588

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:07 No.7730588

>>7730579

0/10

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:07
No.7730598

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:07 No.7730598

>>7730203
Actually that won't happen because the slumping isn't going to be instantaneous, but assuming you used a nuke to trigger it that would also fuck up Europe and Brazil very badly.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:08
No.7730607

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:08 No.7730607

Replies: >>7730643

File: 1354028905401.jpg-(97 KB, 555x427, civilian firearms per capita.jpg)

>>7730311
> At some point you still have to endage the enemy on ground.

Indeed and considering how the occupation of Afghanistan and Iraq are going, imagine attempting the same in the U.S.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:08
No.7730610

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:08 No.7730610

Replies: >>7730682

>>7730572

Meh, you're a Eurobloo. The best you can do is pretend.

We went in, we smashed some shit, and we stayed, and nobody can do shit to stop us or get rid of us. Sounds like a win.

Even Russia didn't say shit to stop us.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:08
No.7730614

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:08 No.7730614

Replies: >>7730628 >>7730641 >>7730735

>>7730565
Besides the fact other countries have access to the same level of tech as the Americans but with bigger forces?

>>7730571
>Ignore the point
>Resume plugging of ears
>You're in denial
lol

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:09
No.7730619

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:09 No.7730619

>>7730579

> "wars"

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:09
No.7730621

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:09 No.7730621

Replies: >>7730683 >>7730715

Given the current growth rate of china and their complete disregard for sane development schedules, in 10 years time China could take on the world.
Man I wish I knew what was going on in those ghost towns and underground superfacilities. Gotta be some good shit there.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:09
No.7730627

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:09 No.7730627

Replies: >>7730646 >>7730740

>>7730565
Thousands - to hunderd thousands americans
Its only naturally for them to be pussy, kids from some well-funded military training how grew up in a peaceful neightborhood vs kids who grew up in misery and war, who would end up less of a pussy?

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:09
No.7730628

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:09 No.7730628

Replies: >>7730654 >>7730685

>>7730614
>other countries have access to the same level of tech as the Americans but with bigger forces?
No. In all cases, no.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:09
No.7730630

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:09 No.7730630

Replies: >>7730661

>>7730579
okay okay, i give ya all that, so why hasnt american been taken over yet? if its kids are so stupid, and the military apparently filled with pussies, why isnt the USA called People's United Nation?

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:10
No.7730641

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:10 No.7730641

>>7730614
>Besides the fact other countries have access to the same level of tech as the Americans but with bigger forces?

>same level of tech
>bigger forces

But those are wrong. The United States Navy and Air Force are both qualitatively and quantitatively superior to any other country's navy and air force.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:10
No.7730643

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:10 No.7730643

>>7730607
Oh god, charts with the rest of the world vs America in anything remotely ethically debated are always fucking hilarious.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:10
No.7730646

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:10 No.7730646

Replies: >>7730730

>>7730627

> Meanwhile, I'm not even allowed to own a gun.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:10
No.7730648

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:10 No.7730648

Replies: >>7730673 >>7730707

>>7730490
but not literally impossible.

also without the use of nuclear deterrent a unified Europe would probably beat the USA.
The war would be very unconventional though and would not end well for anyone.
I would not be happy about it though because i love you redneck fucks like a ginger stepchild.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:10
No.7730654

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:10 No.7730654

Replies: >>7730696

>>7730628
You really believe that don't you? You think the war economy isn't privatized don't you?

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:11
No.7730659

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:11 No.7730659

Replies: >>7730730

File: 1354029072492.jpg-(89 KB, 567x600, spetsnaz.jpg)

>>7730572
>thinks all Russian soldiers are Spetsnaz

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:11
No.7730661

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:11 No.7730661

>>7730630

USA has the best ability to defend it's own borders, but it is incapable of taking that power outside of it's borders

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:11
No.7730665

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:11 No.7730665

Replies: >>7730714

>>7730412

>But American land forces really are the best in the world.

They aren't. They probably have the best, most expensive tech, but their soldiers aren't rated very highly. Mostly kids looking for a life, hoping it'll be like CoD.

There's plenty videos on youtube of US soldiers shitting their pants and screaming when shit goes down, totally going to pieces. They can sit in the base working out, or march round dustbowls looking tough, but when death comes knocking they crumble, because they weren't told about this. They were told they'd be slaying dragons and delivering freedom to happy welcome parties.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:11
No.7730668

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:11 No.7730668

The entire eurasian continent could easily be taken by a collective of Russia and China. Cheer manpower and cheap vehicles will be enough.

On the other hand, america has absolute air and naval superiority. Air superiority is pretty useless against modern AA installations. The war will unfold into abolute attrition, into a cold war.

Also, america; ChiRusEuPoor's have your oil.
So, it's basically Africa, Europe, China and Russia against North and south America minus Brazil. Brazil has signed into a pact with china and russia.

NA's superior technology comes at a massive price. A single guided bomb to take out some conscipts is a very uneven trade. They will be jewed out before they know it. With it's already massive debt, total war would mean economic crisis for America. You guys will be fighting a second civil war.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:12
No.7730673

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:12 No.7730673

Replies: >>7730757

>>7730648
>but not literally impossible.
If this is the best you got, then that's like saying, "I'm betting against 1/100 odds." Only much worse.

> The war would be very unconventional
Kinda defeats the purpose of this thread.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:12
No.7730676

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:12 No.7730676

Turns out all you really need to do is hurt the American ego...

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:12
No.7730682

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:12 No.7730682

Replies: >>7730733

>>7730610
>We went in, we smashed some shit, and we stayed, and nobody can do shit to stop us or get rid of us
No, thats a fucking occupation, not a win of a war. After youre gone, shit will be the same as it was before. Youre just playing on time till the funds are gone. The same way you could give every native 1000 bucks a month to tolerate your ass.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:12
No.7730683

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:12 No.7730683

Replies: >>7730781

>>7730621
Explain Underground Superfacilities

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:12
No.7730684

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:12 No.7730684

>>7729618
goku would be overkill. nappa actually does it on the show, to have fun and kill some time.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:12
No.7730685

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:12 No.7730685

>>7730628
Maybe you don't realise this yet, but it is much easier to sell Military technology to your competitors than it is to have them just steal it and build it anyway without you knowing.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:13
No.7730696

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:13 No.7730696

Replies: >>7730711

>>7730654
You really believe the Northrop/Grumman ect aren't parts of the DoD in all but name. They are run by former soldiers, they literally are the one truly socialistic part of our economy.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:13
No.7730699

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:13 No.7730699

File: 1354029206883.jpg-(84 KB, 640x455, general usa ball.jpg)

11 supercarriers

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:14
No.7730707

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:14 No.7730707

Replies: >>7730820

>>7730648
>also without the use of nuclear deterrent a unified Europe would probably beat the USA.
Really http://www.globalfirepower.com/, really?

How do you plan on deploying your forces? You can't even deploy to fucking Balkans or Africa without US help. At least the Chinks can take Taiwan and maybe Japan.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:14
No.7730711

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:14 No.7730711

>>7730696
Yeah and ford sold bombers to the nazi's during WW2

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:15
No.7730714

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:15 No.7730714

Replies: >>7730761

>>7730665

Another 0/10.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:15
No.7730715

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:15 No.7730715

Replies: >>7730745 >>7730863

>>7730621

Considering the average Chinese has around 7% humanity to 93% cold reptilian survivalism, imagine what their top level scientists are cooking up in their concrete tombs a mile underground.

In 2050 Chinese soldiers will probably all carry a fucking Hellraiser Puzzle Box and just float around the battlefield, fueled by Chinese psykers back home.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:15
No.7730730

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:15 No.7730730

Replies: >>7730756 >>7730760 >>7730784 >>7730851

>>7730646
>thinking that guns are manly
Every pussy can kill people with guns, try the same with knifes.

>>7730659
They dont have to be Spetsnaz. They have a shitty live before and a shitty, cruel military training at the shittiest places out there.
Shitty live makes one strong.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:15
No.7730733

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:15 No.7730733

>>7730682
>No, thats a fucking occupation, not a win of a war.

And how did we get to that occupation again? Oh, right...

Checkmate.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:15
No.7730735

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:15 No.7730735

Replies: >>7730770

>>7730614

How delusional do you have to be to claim that there are countries with the same level of military hardware, in greater numbers, as the USA?

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:16
No.7730740

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:16 No.7730740

Replies: >>7730775

>>7730627
>hunderd thousands americans
What? We haven't even deployed hundreds of thousands?

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:16
No.7730745

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:16 No.7730745

>>7730715
>Chinese has around 7% humanity to 93% cold reptilian survivalism
I laughed pretty hard at this.

I'm sorry Chinabros but you know it's fucking true.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:16
No.7730756

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:16 No.7730756

>>7730730
>Every pussy can kill people with guns, try the same with knifes.
> I brought a gun to a knife fight.
Dumbass.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:16
No.7730757

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:16 No.7730757

Replies: >>7730766 >>7730785

>>7730673
No war on occupied soil is ever conventional.
If you gave an atmosphere to the moon and had all of americas army fight all of any other countries army then you would have your conventional war, there is no other way.
To totally enslave the USA could be done without firing a single shot though.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:17
No.7730760

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:17 No.7730760

Replies: >>7730818

>>7730730
>thinking that guns are manly
>Every pussy can kill people with guns, try the same with knifes.

Here we go again with that "i'll fucking cut ya cunt" Yuropoor mentality that claims that guns are unmanly and weak. Those do not matter. In a war, you fight to win, and you do whatever you can to win. The only unfair and unmanly fight is the one you lose.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:17
No.7730761

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:17 No.7730761

Replies: >>7730778

>>7730714
he's exaggerating a lot, but he is right that our regular forces are nothing special training-wise.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:17
No.7730766

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:17 No.7730766

Replies: >>7730843

>>7730757
>No war on occupied soil is ever conventional.
Not really a war anymore if it's an occupation.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:17
No.7730769

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:17 No.7730769

Russia won WWII. America definately lost 'nam. America won afghanistan by letting the cia throw around a few billion dollar's. Iraq cannot be won, and they had to lie to even get some supporters.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:17
No.7730770

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:17 No.7730770

Replies: >>7730801

>>7730735
>"have access to" is the same as "already own"
HURR HURR NUMBER 1 RIGHT?

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:17
No.7730775

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:17 No.7730775

>>7730740
300 000 in Iraq alone.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:18
No.7730778

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:18 No.7730778

Replies: >>7730802

File: 1354029493379.gif-(20 KB, 220x299, sf_patch.gif)

>>7730761

> What the fuck did you say about me you little bitch?

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:18
No.7730781

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:18 No.7730781

File: 1354029502341.jpg-(75 KB, 800x600, base02oo2.jpg)

>>7730683
Here, have a pattern of short earthquakes resembling mining detonations in china near a military facility.
They've been building underground air force bases for years and years.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:18
No.7730784

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:18 No.7730784

Replies: >>7730878

>>7730730
>They have a shitty live before and a shitty, cruel military training at the shittiest places out there.
>Shitty live makes one strong.

And hard men who grew shitty lives do not win wars. Hardware and logistics win wars, which the US has more and better of. You're like the people who claim that Germany would've won if they had StG. 44s instead of 98ks.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:18
No.7730785

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:18 No.7730785

>>7730757

>To totally enslave the USA could be done without firing a single shot though.

Israel have shown us that.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:19
No.7730794

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:19 No.7730794

>>7730511
>After 5 years, Europe would overtake the US in military size, technology and navy. And their naval production per year would be half the current size of the US navy.
You gonna make new ship yards while they are being attacked by carriers? What do you think the Murricans will be doing, not building any more ships? Jesus man, their boneyard navy is ever larger than their floating one. They have more ships in reserve the the rest of the world has in total.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:19
No.7730801

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:19 No.7730801

Replies: >>7730834

>>7730770
>"have access to"
>"y-yeah guys they don't have it yet, but they will! Promise!"

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:19
No.7730802

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:19 No.7730802

>>7730778
>specifically refer to regular forces
>counters with picture of special forces badge
I rest my case.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:20
No.7730807

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:20 No.7730807

>>7730511
>the European war machine would grind into gear like a locomotive.

What "war machine"? Even Britain's military is so downgraded that's it's almost a defense force.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/the_queens_diamond_jubilee/9305678/Diamond-Jubilee-The-Queen-
no-longer-rules-the-waves.html

>After 5 years, Europe would overtake the US in military size, technology and navy.

After five years, all the factories and shipyards in europe would be a bombed out ruin. Infrastructure like power plants, highways and railroads would be destroyed.

America controls the middle east and we would bomb all your oil pipelines to Russia, so europe would be cut off from oil. You Europeans would be starving in the streets and begging Putin and China to save you.

A failed painter conquered most of europe. Imagine what all of America could do.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:20
No.7730818

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:20 No.7730818

Replies: >>7730848

>>7730760
>claims that guns are unmanly and weak.
Implying they are not.

>The only unfair and unmanly fight is the one you lose.
Implying the other side doesnt have guns.

You brought up guns being legally avaible for every turd in USA as some kind of plus point, I explained why its bullshit.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:20
No.7730820

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:20 No.7730820

>>7730707
>http://www.globalfirepower.com

Yes really
If you took 3 man and put them up against a battalion of an invading army on an island how long would you give the 3 men ?

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:21
No.7730834

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:21 No.7730834

Replies: >>7730860

>>7730801
>ignoring the fact this level of tech is available to many nations
At least practice before you try and troll... Either that or you actually are retarded.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:21
No.7730843

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:21 No.7730843

>>7730766
so ww1 was not a war... glad you cleared that up for me.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:22
No.7730846

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:22 No.7730846

How do you think countries win those wars? Russia is well capable of bombing USA into worse condition than Somalia or even back to stoneage but if nukes aren't allowed USA can't win Russia or China either, just because USA has power to send small well equipped army into Afghanistan and hold the land doesen't mean it could do the same vs. Russia or China. It would become insuperable logistical issue to even keep soldiers fighting long enough on foreign land against so big armies if USA had to fight completely alone. Sure US has far superior army compared to China and Russia but actually gaining anything from the war would be impossible.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:22
No.7730848

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:22 No.7730848

>>7730818
>Implying they are not.

Well, it's a matter of opinion. Point is, they do the job.

>, I explained why its bullshit.

That doesn't explain shit. The huge availability of guns in the US would mean a shitton of partisan warfare that would seriously hamper any invading army. You have not rebutted that at all.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:22
No.7730849

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:22 No.7730849

America still has the largest manufacturing base but an alliance of a few countries could outproduce the US in state of the art weapons in a WW2-type industrial war. So the US would be at a disadvantage.

Just because countries don't have a lot of naval and air materiel compared to the USA right now doesn't mean they can't immediately start shitting out modern aircraft and ships instead of cheap lead paint toys, vodka, and BMWs.

Do you think the USA had the capability of invading western europe and Japan in 1939 or even 1941? No, we built that stuff during the war. Anyone can do that.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:22
No.7730851

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:22 No.7730851

>>7730730
>They have a shitty live before and a shitty, cruel military training at the shittiest places out there.
Then why did they have such a poor showing in their last border skirmish?

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:22
No.7730854

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:22 No.7730854

>>7730306

and american conscripts with american mosin nagant rifles chambered in all american 7.62x51R kept warm in the snow by glorious american vodka.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:23
No.7730860

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:23 No.7730860

>>7730834
>available

Yeah, exactly. They can hypothetically own it. Doesn't mean they can have it before the US fires ballistic missiles at their production facilities.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:23
No.7730863

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:23 No.7730863

>>7730715
Fuck that, the government could have just mandated that every person in china has to build one single small ICBM according to government specifications and let them do it in their free time, and when they finish the job give them a bag of rice.
Then on Chinese new year they all light the fuzes and give us fireworks.

Anonymous
11/27/12(Tue)10:24
No.7730878

Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:24 No.7730878

>>7730784
So how did the superior logistics and hardware help against the Taliban?

Germany had rather bigger problem with a stupid big front, not the tech.
"Hurr durr, lets attack everybody in reach"

Though if you mentioned them already, look how Russia won with shitty peasants who got guns against well trained Germany army.