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>http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4308099,00.html

>1. A lull for a period of more than 15 years.

>2. An immediate cessation of arms smuggling and the transfer of weapons to Gaza.

>3. Cessation of rocket fire on the part of all armed Palestinian factions and an end to attacks on soldiers near the Gaza border.

>4. Israel has the right to hunt down terrorists in the event of an attack or if it obtains information on an imminent attack.

>5. The Rafah border crossing between Gaza and Egypt will remain open, but the crossings on the Gaza-Israel border will remain closed.

>6. Egypt's politicians, headed by President Mohammed Morsi, will be the guarantors of any ceasefire agreement. Meaning, the agreement will be backed by Egypt's political echelon rather than by its security establishment.
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>>7475136 (OP)
>A lull for a period of more than 15 years.

So, wait... they won't stop attacking Palestine until 15 years have passed?
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>>7479085
Is this how long Israel thinks it will take to completely wipe out all the remaining Palestinians, or something?

That seems like a HELL of a "Requirement" to *START* peace....
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>>7479085

No it means that these terms will be standing for 15 years+
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They made unreasonable terms because they don't want it to end, they want to wipe Gaza clean.
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so it's basically stop doing what you're doing while letting us continue doing what we've always been doing?
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>>7479138
Is it possible to have 15 years of peace before the 72 hour deadline?

That seems a little unreasonable...
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>>7479085
are you fucking retarded
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If /pol/ were really white theyd start plotting and executing a plan to ensure this agreement fails.
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>A lull for a period of more than 15 years.
Oh god i think Israel just assassinated my sides.
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>>7479181
>are you fucking retarded

Would you like to explain it to me like I am retarded?
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>4. Israel has the right to hunt down terrorists in the event of an attack or if it obtains information on an imminent attack.

so basically Israel can do whatever it likes in Gaza and just say that they though someone was about to attack them.
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>>7479200

It means that the terms for this ceasefire will need to be adhered to for at least 15 years but review will take place.
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>>7479223

sorry I meant before ...not but.
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>>7479223
>It means that the terms for this ceasefire will need to be adhered to for at least 15 years but review will take place.

So, what you are saying, is that Israel will not be peaceful to Gaza, until gaza lays down for 15 straight years?

That still seems a little outlandish....
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Something tells me that Israel isn't very serious about peace at all....
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More like objectives, the muslims don't listen.
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>>7479247

No these are Israel's peace terms. What Israel are stating is that they will cease to attack Palestine if Palestine accept their offer, which will need to be in place for 15 years+ before review of the terms happens.

Really are you retarded, what type of peace terms mean that one side can attack you for 15 years but you cant attack them.
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>>7479305
>More like objectives, the muslims don't listen.

Were you.... responding to someone?

Your post doesn't contain the necessary context to properly understand your thought.

What did you mean?
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Just dropping in to remind you the Middle Eastern Conflicts have no affect on you and are merely a distraction from the ailing economy, faltering American hegemony, and rising rates of crime.
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>>7479325
>what type of peace terms mean that one side can attack you for 15 years but you cant attack them.

Well, considering that Israel has been attacking Palestinians since Israel's inception in 1948, and has been condemned by the United Nations Humanitarian council more than every other nation on earth combined.... I would say the one that Israel is offering, actually...
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what have people here been saying about the Anonymous leak of Israeli personal information?


is JIDF gonna start trying to dox people who post here and ddos the site?
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>TL;DR the jews are going to invade Palestine because their is no way in hell the stubborn Mudslimes are going to accept such terms.

Get out your whiskey and party streamers boys we're about to watch some A-Rabs get holocausted.
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>>7479329
he means the muslims don't listen, so these aren't really terms, which would require the consideration of both parties. instead, they're objectives for Israel to accomplish, regardless of Palestine's consent

is what he's saying
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>>7479389
>Get out your whiskey and party streamers boys we're about to watch some A-Rabs get holocausted.

You see what I mean about them not really being serious about peace?
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>>7479344
>rising rates of crime
>I'll just wipe my cherry ass with the statistics that say otherwise, if you don't mind.
You just tactical'ed my sides with yer ignorance.
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Jesus this is painful......obviously if Israel broke the terms of their own ceasefire terms then they would be condemned and Palestine would attack Israel again in turn as the ceasefire would have been broken by Israel.

Obviously you can infer anything you want based on Israels past actions. But what they are offering here are their terms for a ceasefire to happen.
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>>7479210
pretty much. Terrorists, terrorists fucking everywhere.
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>>7479397
>he means the muslims don't listen, so these aren't really terms

What government authority are they suing for peace?

Or are they going to take any attack on an Israeli citizen by a Palestinian as a breach of the terms of peace?
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>>7479384
did I post this in a JIDF thread?


why is everyone ignoring my question?
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>The IDF has completed its preparations for a possible invasion of Gaza.
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>>7479435

YES

>3. Cessation of rocket fire on the part of all armed Palestinian factions and an end to attacks on soldiers near the Gaza border.

AND NO

>4. Israel has the right to hunt down terrorists in the event of an attack or if it obtains information on an imminent attack.
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don't forget yahweh is the god of war they had multiple gods but.chose this one because war could give them more in a quicker manner but that backfired

jews know they are all going to hell because they turned their backs on jesus and mohamad they pick and chose prophets that will benefit the schekel sacks
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>>7479421

They simply are tryign to get world favor. THey propose a peace treaty, if Hamas refuse, theya re seen as an obstacle to peace and jew wins.
If they accept jews can simply smuggle a few rockets in gaza and give to some retard. Boom rockets in Israel and a end to the ceasefire with the palestinian as the initiator.

It's a clever jew move, and it is saddening that people will fall for it easily
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>>7479421
>Obviously you can infer anything you want based on Israels past actions.

Indeed... although these are less "Inferences" than they are "Knowledge of the Operating Motive of Israel"

>But what they are offering here are their terms for a ceasefire to happen.

You mean, the terms for no longer shelling and bombing a imprisoned population that it has kept in a state of military siege for decades?
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>>7479357
Well, considering that Palestinians have been attacking Israel since it's inception in 1948,...

Just fuck off already you stupid fuck
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>>7479384
I'm sure if they want to hit the real Anti-Semites they'll go and DDoS/dox Stormfront or some other faggy site. Everyone here is merely trolling and are autistic enough that they present no threat to Israel anyway.
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>>7479305

>Cut power and communications to Gaza
>Call a ceasefire
>Wonder why they dont know about the ceasefire

Damn muslim terrorists!
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>>7479535
Agreed on autistic, disagree on trolling.
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>>7479344
>Just dropping in to remind you the Middle Eastern Conflicts have no affect on you
Too bad it might mean half my family is in danger


Stop being ignorant
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>>7479526
>Well, considering that Palestinians have been attacking Israel since it's inception in 1948,...

You mean the part where the Palestinians were forced off their land at the barrel of a gun?

That inception?
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>>7479459
must of bro, I for one need to see this.
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>>7479466
>dunecoon religions, not even once
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>>7479550
>disagree on trolling

Well I'm living in hope. Otherwise it's a good thing each successive generation seems to be getting more retarded as we go along or some worrisome sorts might find their way into power.
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>>7479466
>uwotm8.jpg
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>>7479565
Yes after it officially became the state of Israel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestine_war
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>>7479577
>Otherwise it's a good thing each successive generation seems to be getting more retarded as we go along or some worrisome sorts might find their way into power.

The people who would be considered "redpilled" are some of the smartest 'average' people on the internet. It takes a certain sense of perception to break free from brainwashing.
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>>7479596
>Yes after it officially became the state of Israel
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestine_war

>At the issue of the war, the State of Israel kept of the area that had been recommended by the UN General Assembly Resolution 181. Israel also took control of almost 60% of the area allocated to the proposed Arab state. including the Jaffa, Lydda and Ramle area, Galilee, some parts of the Negev, a wide strip along the Tel-Aviv-Jerusalem road and some territories in the West Bank.

Are you talking about the part that the UN resolution granted them, or the part that they took through force?
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>>7479344
a)
>implying we're all American
b)
>he doesn't know his tax dollars are paying for those weapons
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I still just don't understand why Israel is being so damned RACIST against the Palestinians....

And they ALWAYS call them violent, and yet Israel makes absolutely SURE that the Palestinians environment is one that actively encourages violence....
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None of those things benefit Palestinians aside from causing further death, it just would give Israel more power over the territory.

Wow they really don't want peace.
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>>7479842
And then, there is the Anti-Palestinian Brutality perpetrated by the privileged IDF, using white phosphorus, attacking civilian targets, using CHILDREN as human shields... it's absolutely outrageous!
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>>7475136 (OP)
Completely unreasonable.

Have to be braindead to accept that. No wonder Hamas said "The negotiations have broke down"

No mention of the illegal blockade in international waters either.

I hate Israel because the Jews killed a thousand British soldiers during the Jewish insurgency in Palestine. 1944-1948
All the leaders of Israel were/are military generals and are descended from members/leaders of the Irgun.

Also because they lied and/or exaggerated about the Holohoax and have become the very thing they opposed.
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These are peace terms?

They're practically terms of surrender.
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>>7479883
You didn't think Israel was just killing for fun did you? This is their way of negotiating.
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>>7479883
>These are peace terms?

>They're practically terms of surrender.

That's because Israel doesn't want peace... they want the land.
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so the great happening is coming to an end?
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>>7479913
>You didn't think Israel was just killing for fun did you? This is their way of negotiating.

They want the land, and they are willing to SAY and DO anything to get it.... Human life be damned....
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Brit here.

I'm conceding that as a nation this was largely Britain's fault that it actually came into fruition. Under pressure we adopted a policy of appeasement and they kept on taking and the pressing for more. Bit like we did with the Nazis. And low and behold there's a fucking Lebensraum policy once again driving a minority population into the shit, where naturally they react with violent frustration.

People kick off about immigration shit in the UK as it is now. Imagine if we actually were outnumbered within a couple of decades and the UN agreed to redraw borders giving us Wales and Scotland to live in while a different cultural and religious group takes control of England. I would personally have a major issue with that and I expect my kids and grandkids would too.

You know Condoleeza Rice actually suggested it would be a good idea to relocate the Palestinians to Chile? Does that not ring alarm bells for everyone?
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Do you guys know if Israel has started herding Palestinians into refugee camps, and assaulting them with military hardware yet?

Trying to "Cleanse" them?

In an.... ethnic fashion?

Racially?
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>>7475136 (OP)
>1. A lull for a period of more than 15 years.
>4. Israel has the right to hunt down terrorists in the event of an attack or if it obtains information on an imminent attack.
You pledge to never attack us, we pledge to attack you whenever we fucking feel like it.
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>>7479999
Nice quads yo... but you shouldn't take this all on yourself, bro... the Rothchilds had some heavy hand in this shit, and their financial power was.... well.... substantial.
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>>7480006
What they're doing is crippling and neutralizing Palestinian capability to halt the expansion of Israeli settlements just outside Gaza.

The Palestinians saw what this did in the West Bank with Israel basically claiming the land for themselves.
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Always wondered why don't we do airdrops in palestine. It would work.
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>>7480065
That would be antisemitic and violate the airspace of land Israel claims is both Palestinian when convenient and Israeli otherwise.
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>>7480046
Yeah, aggressive land expansion policy, coupled with a sustained PR campaign to paint Israel as the perpetual victim in all things.

Oh, those poor, poor, Militarily advanced jews... being picked on by a corralled, besieged, and impoverished bully, armed with the latest stick and rock technology....

The fucking humanity of it all....
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>>7475136 (OP)
>a lull for 15 years

>gaza is projected to be unlivable in 2020
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>>7479842
If you don't understand why Israel is behaving this way, you should read up more on their practice awarding citizenship...
If you are of Jewish decent AND faith, you get it. if you are Jewish genetically but decided to have a non-Jewish sanctioned religion you are forbidden to get Israeli citizenship.
Such practices have led to religious and ethnic purity.
Conclude for yourself....
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>>7480108
>a lull for 15 years

>gaza is projected to be unlivable in 2020

Well, that's kind of the point, isn't it?

"Don't you dare attack us while we are ethnically cleansing you to steal your land!"
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>>7480121
>If you are of Jewish decent AND faith, you get it. if you are Jewish genetically but decided to have a non-Jewish sanctioned religion you are forbidden to get Israeli citizenship.

So, not only is it a Racist state, but a theocracy as well?

That's interesting, isn't it?

Anyone care to take a guess at how many U.N. resolutions were passed against Israel's Nuclear weapons program?
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>>7480146
>So, not only is it a Racist state, but a theocracy as well?

Israelis who want to get married in a fashion that's unapproved by the state (i.e. to a non-Jew or in a non-Jewish ceremony) usually leave the country for Cyprus to do it before returning back.
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>>7480146
Watch this video
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPWi6x8HshM
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let's be honest, you guys only hate Israel because they're winning

haters gonna hate
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>>7480172

joo pls go
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>4. Israel has the right to hunt down terrorists in the event of an attack or if it obtains information on an imminent attack.

so basically they can kill anyone and say well he was planning to commit an attack in isreal
doesn't make sense
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>>7480162
"Your mother lied with arabs"

Oh, they be racist and shit....
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>>7480172
>let's be honest, you guys only hate Israel because they're winning
An international pariah state that relies completely on the protection of the USA.
"Winning".
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>>7480172

Hahaha, silly juden
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>>7480089
I'd like to see the outcome of Israel shooting down Turkish aircraft. Israel=crater in the ground.

They'll nuke their own nation if a force greater than them invades.
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>>7480210
>An international pariah state that relies completely on the protection of the USA.

Well, technically speaking, they have a POWERFUL propaganda and espionage apparatus operating in the United States, and especially Washington D.C. to "Coerce" US representatives into complying with Israeli interests....
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>>7480245

>Israel
>Powerful

Pick one
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>>7480006
Gaza itself is nothing but a huge concentration camp
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>>7480268
>Israel
>Powerful
>Pick one

You saying that the US representatives DON'T have to cowtow to Israel demands to get elected?

Why else do you think the USA supports Israel?
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>>7480297
>Gaza itself is nothing but a huge concentration camp

Yeah... Israel's "Demands for Peace" is basically a subtle way of saying:

We won't bomb Gaza, if the Palestinians move to Egypt....
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>1. A lull for a period of more than 15 years.
>4. Israel has the right to hunt down terrorists in the event of an attack or if it obtains information on an imminent attack.

>jews
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whats the chance that the palestinians will accept these terms?
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>>7480300
>You saying that the US representatives DON'T have to cowtow to Israel demands to get elected?

>Why else do you think the USA supports Israel?

While the Israel lobby is strong in America, it couldn't do shit without fundamentalist Christians. They are the biggest Zionists.
South Baptists and Evangelicals, fucking shit up again.
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>>7480341
>whats the chance that the palestinians will accept these terms?

HAHAHAHAHA you mean "What is the chance that ISRAEL will accept these terms?"
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>>7480348
>While the Israel lobby is strong in America, it couldn't do shit without fundamentalist Christians. They are the biggest Zionists.
South Baptists and Evangelicals, fucking shit up again.

I can't exactly argue with you there... but they DO bribe the big time fundamentalist evangelicals to basically demand obedience to Israel from their flock.
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>>7480379
They also had Jewish producers make dozens of pro-Israeli movies over the span of decades to influence general American perception.

There's like not a single American movie where the Palestinians are shown in a humanizing way, if at all.
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>>7480404
>There's like not a single American movie where the Palestinians are shown in a humanizing way, if at all.

Wait... you mean to tell me that there ARE American movies where the Palestinians are even acknowledged as existing in reality?
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>>7480425
>Wait... you mean to tell me that there ARE American movies where the Palestinians are even acknowledged as existing in reality?

Yes.

They're always ugly, loud men who look nothing like average Palestinians, and always soldiers attacking the protagonists.
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>>7480425
>>7480404

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4157QYY3o4
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Has anyone considered just letting them duke it out without interference?
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>>7480472
You mean doing what we've done all along? We haven't intervened in any fighting between these two. We might have at some point, but Israel spends a lot of time and money making sure America's veto power ensures it can do what it does without outside interference.
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>>7480472
>Has anyone considered just letting them duke it out without interference?

By "Interference" do you mean:

Billions of dollars of Financial aid from U.S.A.
Nuclear assistance from France
Cutting edge, state of the art military hardware from US companies

Etcetera?
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>>7480472
That's what we're doing. Israel's goal is to get American candid support to have free reign over the West Bank and Gaza so that neither we nor the rest of the world will think to intervene.

If they had been Serbs you can damn well be certain we'd bomb them until they agreed to sit down and come to actual terms.
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>>7480472
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.
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>>7475136 (OP)
>http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4308099,00.html

>those comments

my god how horrifying
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The only reason that Israel still exists, is because the United States political process and Mass Media establishments pretty much submit to Jewish=Israel wishes.

If you don't support the Israel Regime, and their mass murder of Palestinians, you are slandered as an anti-semite, and chased from office.

Period.
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>>7480612
We cracked down on the Serbs and the South Africans, but the Jews are somehow untouchable despite being hardly any different.
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>>7480646
>We cracked down on the Serbs and the South Africans, but the Jews are somehow untouchable despite being hardly any different.

Do you know how much jewish power is in American Media?
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>>7480449
>>7480449
>>7480449
>>7480449
>>7480449
This board is relatively privy to the zionist agenda, but is a complete minority when put agaisnt common americans. Hell, there were so many debate questions that blantly asked at what length would each candidiate go to protect Isreal from the "evil, dirty, war mongerers".
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>>7480688
yeah, that's exactly what I'm talking about... the media is almost completely controlled by zionists.
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>>7480688
It's actually ingenious in a super-villainous way. They took all the stereotypes of hook nosed Jews and Nazi stormtroopers and turned them on Arabs in our movies. And it works because Arabs are so close to Jews genetically that you'll find lots of people to act that fit the visual look they want.
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CNN, BBC - pure anti israel and they admit it. they try taking arab markets to make more cash.
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>>7475136 (OP)

If these terms seem a little harsh, that's because they are not terms between equals.

The Palestinians lost the war. Wars. These are basically terms of surrender.

They would be well advised to accept them. Otherwise the next phase of the operation will begin, and maybe even worse terms will be offered after that.
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>>7480769
lel

keeping dreaming
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>>7480769
>CNN, BBC - pure anti israel and they admit it. they try taking arab markets to make more cash.

That's one, bro... (BBC is British)

How many other channels can you name?
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>>7480828
i know the "I fucked your sister" channel bro
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>>7480877
>i know the "I fucked your sister" channel bro

Do you know the "You have 5 venereal diseases now" channel, bro?
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Awww.... come on JIDF!!! why don't you want to play anymore?

I was having great fun crushing your arguments like a paper cup!

Don't be a sore loser... come back and play!
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>>7479152
Pretty much this.

If Israel really cared about peace, they wouldn't be so touchy and bitchy when anyone brings up the two-state solution--going so far as to lecture and berate Obama on national TV for holding this apparently unthinkable position.

If Palestine was a real state, Israel could just tell the Palestinians to fuck off to their new homeland, and have a real government to hold accountable whenever something happens. The way it is now, they have a bunch of hapless cattle corralled into corrugated steel hovels, malnourished from sanctions. packed cheek to cheek with any extremists for high collateral whenever they pull an air strike, and a just barely elected "government" of Hamas to be the scapegoat, and that's the way they like it.
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>>7480121
Are you fucking kidding me?
I have weak ties (Which I even doubt are true) in terms of family to Judaism. I lack any faith. I have been an Israeli citizen for over 7 years. I must be non-existent, eh?
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>>7479999
You're not entirely to blame. You got the land from the Turks who already did a pretty effective job of breaking up Palestine, which they nabbed from the Romans who had their own agenda.
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>>7480090
Pretty fucked up, shit..


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