Anonymous
The 'Human Soap' H(...) 11/18/12(Sun)09:30
No.7444722

The 'Human Soap' Holocaust Myth Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)09:30 No.7444722

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One of the most lurid Holocaust claims is the story that the Germans manufactured soap from the bodies of their victims. Although a similar charge during the First World War was exposed as a hoax almost immediately afterwards, it was nevertheless revived and widely believed during the Second.

More important, this accusation was "proved" at the main Nuremberg trial of 1945-1946, and has been authoritatively endorsed by numerous historians in the decades since. In recent years, though, as part of a broad retreat from the most obviously untenable aspects of the "orthodox" extermination story, Holocaust historians have grudgingly conceded that the human soap tale is a wartime propaganda lie.

In their retreat, though, these historians have tried to dismiss the soap story as a mere wartime "rumor," neglecting to mention that international Jewish organizations, and then Allied governments, endorsed and sanctioned this libelous canard.

http://www.codoh.com/library/document/1075

Anonymous
Many Holocaust Cla(...) 11/18/12(Sun)09:33
No.7444774

Many Holocaust Claims Abandoned Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)09:33 No.7444774

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Since World War II the Holocaust story has changed quite a lot. Many extermination claims that were once widely accepted have been quietly dropped.

For example, it was authoritatively claimed for years that Jews were killed in gas chambers at Dachau, Buchenwald and other concentration camps in Germany proper. That part of the extermination story proved so untenable that it was abandoned many years ago. No serious historian now supports the once supposedly proven story of “extermination camps” in the territory of the pre-1938 German Reich. Even famed “Nazi hunter” Simon Wiesenthal acknowledged that “there were no extermination camps on German soil.” [1]

Prominent Holocaust historians now claim that large numbers of Jews were gassed at just six camps in what is now Poland: Auschwitz, Majdanek, Treblinka, Sobibor, Chelmno and Belzec. However, the evidence presented for gassings at these six camps is not qualitatively different than the now-discredited “evidence” for alleged “gassings” at camps in Germany proper.

Anonymous
Other Absurd Holoc(...) 11/18/12(Sun)09:34
No.7444790

Other Absurd Holocaust Claims Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)09:34 No.7444790

File: 1353249257308.gif-(276 KB, 618x805, hoax01b.gif)

At one time it was seriously claimed that the Germans manufactured soap from Jewish corpses, [4] and that they systematically exterminated Jews with steam and electricity.

US officials charged at Nuremberg that the Germans had killed Jews at Treblinka, not in gas chambers, as is now claimed, but by steaming them to death in “steam chambers.” [5]

American newspapers, citing a Soviet eyewitness report from the just-liberated Auschwitz camp, told readers in 1945 that the methodical Germans had killed Jews there using an "electric conveyor belt on which hundreds of persons could be electrocuted simultaneously [and] then moved on into furnaces. They were burned almost instantly, producing fertilizer for nearby cabbage fields." [6]

These and many similarly bizarre Holocaust stories have been quietly abandoned over the years.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)09:42
No.7444951

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)09:42 No.7444951

Replies: >>7445146

Hey, I don't really know anything about the Holocaust, but I'm interested.
I heard a bit about the denier side, but have some problems with it.

Can you explain to me where the Jews went if they weren't killed?

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)09:47
No.7445037

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)09:47 No.7445037

Replies: >>7445203

>>7444699 (OP)
bad science is bad.
even the guy who made this report agreed
also got raped in court under oath for bad science.

guess what, cry all you like about bad chemistry proving nothing. Holocaust happened and only retards will believe outdated evidence made by right wing benefactors that has been proven wrong both in the field and in a court of law.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)09:53
No.7445146

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)09:53 No.7445146

Replies: >>7445186 >>7445256

File: 1353250397962.jpg-(122 KB, 799x1245, deathroll.jpg)

>>7444951
You say that as though there are millions of people missing. This is a wrong assumption you are making.

It's a reasonable assumption to make. After all, if people claim millions died, surely they can at least demonstrate millions are missing, right?

The shocking reality is that despite Germans keeping meticulous records of all camp inmates, there is no evidence the phantom millions claimed to die in the gas chambers were ever arrested, detained, or even born.

In short: No explanation is needed as these missing people are only in your imagination.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)09:56
No.7445186

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)09:56 No.7445186

Replies: >>7445243

>>7445146
funny that because the camp records at auschwitz are on public display and show the numbers. Been there, seen them, Holocaust happened get over it. You would think that Lovers of hitler would not be trying to hide his biggest success.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)09:57
No.7445203

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)09:57 No.7445203

Replies: >>7445283

File: 1353250625143.jpg-(79 KB, 800x533, Image324.jpg)

>>7445037
Germar Rudolf was imprisoned for holocaust denial. There's no law against "bad science".

He wasn't accused of being wrong. They never claimed his results were inaccurate, nor the result of "bad science".

It is simply illegal to debunk the holocaust.

Germar Rudolf served three years in prison for scientific results which contradict historical lies.

Bad science?
Hahah 11/18/12(Sun)09:58
No.7445220

Hahah Bad science? 11/18/12(Sun)09:58 No.7445220

Do you know how to read. They guy explaining chemistry was a moron oxides dont readily form such as he was talking. If any HCN was used it would still hace great amiounts found in the walls.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)09:59
No.7445243

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)09:59 No.7445243

Replies: >>7445272 >>7445273 >>7445348

>>7445186
The death certificates record the names of 68,864 individuals, who died at Auschwitz (Birkenau), of whom about 30,000 were listed as Jews.

The officially claimed death toll at Auschwitz is 1.1 million, a discrepancy of over 1 million.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)10:00
No.7445256

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)10:00 No.7445256

Replies: >>7445373

>>7445146
>there is no evidence the phantom millions claimed to die in the gas chambers were ever arrested, detained, or even born.
That's a lie. There are German and foreign documents about the rounding up and deportation of Jews.
The Jews show up in pre-war censuses and in Nazi estimates about the number of Jews present.
There are numerous people who simply noticed that Jews went missing.
So basically there's a paper trail right until the Jews arrive at the camps and if you do not accept that they were killed there, you have the problem that these regions should swarm with Jews, which is not the case.

The document you posted shows the number of confirmed killed German citizens (not just Jews) and a person is only added to that list, if someone inquires, which means that if an entire family was annihilated, nobody would be there to do that.

Anonymous
Auschwitz Death Records 11/18/12(Sun)10:01
No.7445272

Auschwitz Death Records Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)10:01 No.7445272

Replies: >>7445286 >>7445320

File: 1353250870358.png-(13 KB, 252x360, Capture.png)

>>7445243
Having both the birth and death dates, we can calculate the age at death. The following is a break-down of the records by age. This is of interest, as Jews claim that the old, young, and anyone unfit for work, were immediately gassed on arrival at Auschwitz (and, of course, Jews claim, no record was kept of these killings, while careful records were kept of all other deaths). Clearly, this was not the case. It is particularly unlikely, that the three ladies over 90 years old, were fit for any sort of work.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)10:01
No.7445273

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)10:01 No.7445273

Replies: >>7445320 >>7445373

>>7445243
People who were killed on arrival were never entered into that list and the list is incomplete anyway.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)10:01
No.7445283

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)10:01 No.7445283

Replies: >>7445313 >>7445447

>>7445203
He did not debunk the holocaust though he used fudged figures and bad science to try and debunk the holocaust. As a scientist i could not give 2 fucks if he denies the holocaust or not but he should be in prison for his shoddy work which was refuted at the time and even Rudolf himself has said that he could neither prove or disprove the holocaust using chemical means, he said this after another group of scientists thoroughly rebuked his claimed using sound scientific method. The guy is a hack and has no ability to give any credible scientific data on the holocaust, using him as a means to disprove it is a bad idea.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)10:01
No.7445286

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)10:01 No.7445286

>>7445272
Where did you get the information for that table from?

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)10:03
No.7445313

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)10:03 No.7445313

Replies: >>7445554

>>7445283
Rudolf also habitually cited texts he wrote himself under different names.
He later claimed this was meant as a joke.

Not really scientific work.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)10:03
No.7445320

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)10:03 No.7445320

Replies: >>7445442

>>7445273
>People who were killed on arrival

See: >>7445272

The "killed on arrival" fairy tale used to try and explain the lack of documentation supporting the six million lie is easily disproved by the death certificates.

>Having both the birth and death dates, we can calculate the age at death. The following is a break-down of the records by age. This is of interest, as Jews claim that the old, young, and anyone unfit for work, were immediately gassed on arrival at Auschwitz (and, of course, Jews claim, no record was kept of these killings, while careful records were kept of all other deaths). Clearly, this was not the case. It is particularly unlikely, that the three ladies over 90 years old, were fit for any sort of work.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)10:04
No.7445348

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)10:04 No.7445348

Replies: >>7445489 >>7445505

>>7445243
yawn. So much bullshit in your mind. So much debunked and refuted evidence that you cling to in the hope that you can get 1 shred of evidence that something that did happen and the world believes happened did not. You are failing on all levels, not 1 scientist has backed up or peer reviewed any claim by any source on scientific grounds,

Not one holocaust revisionist has ever been able to answer the question of where the nazis were taking the jews if not for disposal

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)10:06
No.7445373

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)10:06 No.7445373

Replies: >>7445420 >>7445481 >>7445510

File: 1353251177406.png-(110 KB, 406x406, 1309881157728.png)

>>7445256
Looks like you are getting your wires crossed with your fellow JIDF.

This guy has the "correct" official explanation for the lack of documentation for the supposedly gassed inmates >>7445273

You are quite a shameless liar to claim such documentation exists. The explanation for why it doesn't exist is tightly woven into the holohaox fable.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)10:09
No.7445420

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)10:09 No.7445420

Replies: >>7445476 >>7446952

>>7445373
cry more holocaust happened get over it and over yourself. Come one if you love hitler why say that he did fuck all to the jews during the war. considering you hate jews so much does it not make you feel warm inside knowing they were gassed, burned, shot by the millions ?

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)10:10
No.7445442

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)10:10 No.7445442

Replies: >>7445527

>>7445320
>The "killed on arrival" fairy tale used to try and explain the lack of documentation supporting the six million lie is easily disproved by the death certificates.
How?

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)10:10
No.7445447

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)10:10 No.7445447

Replies: >>7445536 >>7445558

File: 1353251433542.png-(285 KB, 491x491, 1331063977562.png)

>>7445283
>he used fudged figures

No he didn't, you lying Jew. This is what you have been reduced to? Just telling blatant lies in the hopes nobody will wonder why you can't provide sources or evidence for your claims?

>his shoddy work which was refuted at the time

His work has never been refuted.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)10:11
No.7445476

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)10:11 No.7445476

File: 1353251511839.jpg-(222 KB, 859x1109, 6trillionbilliongazillionomg2.jpg)

>>7445420

MUH SIX TRILLIONS

give us your printing presses to repay us, stupid goy

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)10:12
No.7445481

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)10:12 No.7445481

>>7445373
>You are quite a shameless liar to claim such documentation exists.
Well, seeing how all historians support my claim that this documentation exists and that there are archives full of it, your lies are quite brazen.
I thought you had some kind of explanation, but you simply close your eyes and pretend there's nothing there.
Disappointing.

Anonymous
Captured German Do(...) 11/18/12(Sun)10:12
No.7445489

Captured German Documents Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)10:12 No.7445489

Replies: >>7445505 >>7445548 >>7447900

File: 1353251555018.jpg-(102 KB, 672x364, 1321652180559.jpg)

>>7445348
At the end of World War II the Allies confiscated a tremendous quantity of German documents dealing with Germany's wartime Jewish policy, which was sometimes referred to as the “final solution.” But not a single document has been found that even refers to an extermination program. To the contrary, the documents show that Germany’s “final solution” policy was one of emigration and deportation, not extermination.

One of the most important of these is the confidential German Foreign Office memorandum of August 21, 1942. [10] “The present war gives Germany the opportunity and also the duty of solving the Jewish problem in Europe,” the document notes. The policy “to promote the evacuation of the Jews in closest cooperation with the agencies of the Reichsführer SS [Heinrich Himmler] is still in force.” The memo noted that “the number of Jews deported in this way to the East did not suffice to cover the labor needs there.”

The memorandum quotes Foreign Minister von Ribbentrop as saying that “at the end of this war, all Jews would have to leave Europe. This was an unalterable decision of the Führer [Hitler] and also the only way to master this problem, as only a global and comprehensive solution could be applied and individual measures would not help very much.”

The memorandum concludes by stating that the “deportations [of Jews to the East] are a further step on the way of the total solution... The deportation to the [Polish] General Government is a temporary measure. The Jews will be moved on further to the occupied [Soviet] eastern territories as soon as the technical conditions for it are given.”

Anonymous
Hitler and the 'Fi(...) 11/18/12(Sun)10:13
No.7445505

Hitler and the 'Final Solution' Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)10:13 No.7445505

Replies: >>7445548 >>7447900

File: 1353251603245.jpg-(159 KB, 672x367, 1321652214868.jpg)

>>7445348
>>7445489
There is no documentary evidence that Adolf Hitler ever gave an order to exterminate the Jews. Instead, the record shows that the German leader wanted the Jews to leave Europe, by emigration if possible and by deportation if necessary. A confidential document found after the war in the files of the Reich Ministry of Justice records his thinking. In the spring of 1942, State Secretary Schlegelberger noted in a memorandum that Hitler’s Chief of Chancellery, Dr. Hans Lammers, had informed him that “the Führer [Hitler] has repeatedly declared to him [Lammers] that he wants to see the solution of the Jewish problem postponed until after the war is over.” [11]

And on July 24, 1942, Hitler emphasized to close colleagues his determination to remove all Jews from Europe after the war: “The Jews are interested in Europe for economic reasons, but Europe must reject them, if only out of self interest, because the Jews are racially tougher. After this war is over, I will rigorously hold to the view...that the Jews will have to leave and emigrate to Madagascar or some other Jewish national state.” [12]

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)10:13
No.7445510

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)10:13 No.7445510

>>7445373
>there's a paper trail right until the Jews arrive at the camps
>People who were killed on arrival were never entered into that list
I don't see a contradiction.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)10:14
No.7445527

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)10:14 No.7445527

File: 1353251666003.png-(13 KB, 252x360, Capture.png)

>>7445442
Having both the birth and death dates, we can calculate the age at death. The following is a break-down of the records by age. This is of interest, as Jews claim that the old, young, and anyone unfit for work, were immediately gassed on arrival at Auschwitz (and, of course, Jews claim, no record was kept of these killings, while careful records were kept of all other deaths). Clearly, this was not the case. It is particularly unlikely, that the three ladies over 90 years old, were fit for any sort of work.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)10:15
No.7445536

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)10:15 No.7445536

Replies: >>7445671 >>7448833

>>7445447
yes he did he used bad science on a number of occasions and if you are so sure that his work was not refuted why dont you post the trial transcript where it gets torn to shreds or the independently reviewed work where it does the same? they guy is a hack and has no business doing science, he lied under oath and claimed he was an expert witness when he blatantly was not.

Oh noes you want evidence and proof that his work is refuted, google that shit , google the court transcript, look up the further studies and maybe get some real science in your head so you can see that this guy is full of shit.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)10:16
No.7445548

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)10:16 No.7445548

Replies: >>7448076

>>7445489
>>7445505
>reading cover up terms literally
>ignoring all context
>saying Himmler of all people was overseeing the "evacuation", Himmler who we have on tape saying that his task was the extermination of the Jewish people

Deportation was the preferred policy at one point, but was gradually replaced by one of total extermination in 1941/42.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)10:16
No.7445554

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)10:16 No.7445554

Replies: >>7445697 >>7447061

File: 1353251796754.jpg-(84 KB, 1280x521, 1299936497320.jpg)

>>7445313
>He later claimed this was meant as a joke.
Source? (He didn't, you're lying, saying "source" is me calling your bluff.)

Jews are so stereotypical. When confronted on their lies they just lie, and lie, and lie some more.

Jewish logic: Try to lie your way out of the lies you got caught in.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)10:16
No.7445558

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)10:16 No.7445558

Replies: >>7445679 >>7445799

>>7445447
>His work has never been refuted.

I was going to say that I had never heard of his work being refuted.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)10:18
No.7445601

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)10:18 No.7445601

>testing the Auschwitz museum's gas chambers
>ignoring that Auschwitz was dismantled because it kept freaking out Soviet soldiers who were stationed there

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)10:21
No.7445671

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)10:21 No.7445671

Replies: >>7445762

File: 1353252108609.png-(138 KB, 517x468, 1320609079593.png)

>>7445536
>claim something exists
>don't post it
>tell the person you are disagreeing with to post what you are referring to
>unable to post it yourself for some reason

Is JIDF outsourcing to India? I thought Jews were supposed to be intelligent.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)10:22
No.7445679

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)10:22 No.7445679

Replies: >>7445916

>>7445558
Markiewicz, Gubala, and Labedz refuted his work

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)10:23
No.7445697

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)10:23 No.7445697

Replies: >>7446053

>>7445554
http://www.holocaust-history.org/denial/nym.shtml
He used several names for no reason.
Using one to protect himself I could understand, but so many and with titles he does not have?

Not very sincere.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)10:26
No.7445762

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)10:26 No.7445762

Replies: >>7448833

>>7445671
http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/chemistry/blue/

yawn If you cba to look and will settle on shit work then you really must suck.
also transcripts read em
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/i/irving.david/libel.suit/ftp.py?people/i/irving.david/libel.su
it//transcripts//day008.41

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)10:28
No.7445799

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)10:28 No.7445799

Replies: >>7445955

File: 1353252490193.jpg-(71 KB, 568x505, 1321651738697.jpg)

>>7445558
The guy is just making up blatant lies. Despicable, blatant, shameless lies.

The only response to The Rudolf Report comes from Richard Green. It is very flimsy and relied heavily on personal attacks and appeals to emotion. Anyone can read their exchange themselves and see that Germar Rudolf comes out on top.

>The Rudolf Report: Expert Report on Chemical and Technical Aspects of the ‘Gas Chambers’ of Auschwitz (Rudolf)
http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/trr/

>Leuchter, Rudolf and the Iron Blues (Green)
http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/chemistry/blue/

>Some considerations about the ›Gas Chambers‹ of Auschwitz and Birkenau (Rudolf)
http://vho.org/GB/c/GR/Green.html

>Chemistry is Not the Science (Green)
http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/chemistry/not-the-science/

>Character assassins (Rudolf)
http://vho.org/GB/c/GR/CharacterAssassins.html

>Postscript to Chemistry is not the Science: Rudolf's Character Suicide (Green)
http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/chemistry/not-the-science/postscript.shtml

>Dr. Richard Green's Evasions (Rudolf)
http://vho.org/GB/c/GR/Evasions.html

Anonymous
8.4.2. False Metho(...) 11/18/12(Sun)10:33
No.7445916

8.4.2. False Method of Analysis Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)10:33 No.7445916

File: 1353252781373.png-(7 KB, 427x193, table23.png)

>>7445679
On the contrary, The Rudolf Report demolishes the fraud done by Markiewicz et al. The Markiewicz study was intended (and failed) to refute Leuchter.

>Many people, both experts and laymen, rely good-naturedly upon the findings of the Jan Sehn Institute for Forensic Research in Cracow, i.e., the study published in 1994 by Prof. Markiewicz and colleagues. These Polish scientists, however, tested their samples with analytical methods that were unable to detect stable iron cyanide compounds.

>Prof. Markiewicz and his colleagues did not even attempt to find any explanation for the high iron cyanide concentration in the walls of the disinfestation chambers and their blotchy-blue surfaces.

>The conclusions to be drawn from the above is clear: the only 'scientific' attempt to refute Fredrick A. Leuchter's sensational argument proves, upon closer examination, to be one of the greatest scientific falsifications of the 20th century.

>How desperate must one really be, if it is believed necessary to stoop to such methods in an attempt to defend the established version of the Holocaust, i.e., the alleged systematic extermination of the Jews in homicidal 'gas chambers'?

http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/trr/8.html#8.4.2.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)10:34
No.7445955

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)10:34 No.7445955

Replies: >>7447031

>>7445799
you really are retarded the essay is by green based on the evidence by the cracow forensic institute. Good work though.

still not answered any questions regarding where they were sending the jews

or defended your reasoning behind denying something that obviously happened.

or managed to explain why even the original document has been shunned by the person who wrote it.

or managed to tell anyone why the jews feel the need to lie about the holocaust even now after so many years when worse acts of genocide have taken place.

Sorry for all your posturing and use of emotive words you are failing at converting people to your idiotic idealism.

I am no supporter of the jews but in the grand scheme of things nothing is changed by your rhetoric and you are just looking more and more retarded.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)10:35
No.7445990

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)10:35 No.7445990

Replies: >>7446184

File: 1353252958710.png-(299 KB, 704x480, 1352994733380.png)

>ask deniers to back up any of their claims besides the chemistry shit nobody, not even they, understands
>dead silence

I have to conclude that you are really just trying to spread propaganda.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)10:38
No.7446053

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)10:38 No.7446053

Replies: >>7446206

File: 1353253128202.jpg-(148 KB, 850x446, 1346762827468.jpg)

>>7445697
>Ctrl+F "joke"
>not found

You know exactly what the lie was. I quoted your lie in the post, asking for you to source this lie. Here, I will quote your lie again:

>He later claimed this was meant as a joke.

This is a lie. You lied.

Now here you are acting oblivious. It's almost like you are a member of a certain tribe of habitual liars who behave this exact way when caught in their lies...

Anonymous
Typhus, Not Poison Gas 11/18/12(Sun)10:44
No.7446184

Typhus, Not Poison Gas Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)10:44 No.7446184

Replies: >>7446232 >>7446277 >>7446302 >>7453093

File: 1353253475123.jpg-(415 KB, 1032x559, dr_larson.jpg)

>>7445990
It is reasonable to conclude the holocaust didn't happen for the same reason we conclude unicorns or bigfoot don't exist: lack of evidence.

There is not evidence of a single inmate death from poison gas, and the phantom millions have vanished without leaving any forensic evidence or human remains behind. The only "evidence" ever presented in favor of the holohoax lie are tortured confessions and supposed 'eyewitness' reports.

You should be wondering why the holocaust believers in this thread can't provide a scrap of evidence of even a single inmate being murdered in gas chambers.

>As part of a US War Crimes Investigation Team, Dr. Larson performed autopsies at Dachau and some twenty other German camps, examining on some days more than 100 corpses. After his grim work at Dachau, he was questioned for three days by US Army prosecutors. [1]

>Dr. Larson's findings? In an 1980 newspaper interview he said: "What we've heard is that six million Jews were exterminated. Part of that is a hoax." [2] And what part was the hoax? Dr. Larson, who told his biographer that to his knowledge he "was the only forensic pathologist on duty in the entire European Theater" of Allied military operations, [3] confirmed that "never was a case of poison gas uncovered." [4]

http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/libcamps.shtml

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)10:45
No.7446206

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)10:45 No.7446206

Replies: >>7452877 >>7452993

>>7446053
>This is a lie. You lied.
No, I read that somewhere, but I couldn't find it now.
Sorry, I don't copy paste everything I ever read in text files like you denier people.

It's weird that this is what upsets you, not that your supporter is a highly suspicious fraudster. You don't seem to mind that at all.

Deniers really are the biggest liars on /pol/, other people could be misled or simply stupid, but you deny facts when they're waved in your face and insist you know everything about something you never read anything about.

Anonymous
Moshe Peer's astou(...) 11/18/12(Sun)10:45
No.7446212

Moshe Peer's astounding Holy Shoah tale - Gassed six times by the Nazis and survived! Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)10:45 No.7446212

File: 1353253539519.jpg-(167 KB, 799x918, x3iem9.jpg)

ST. LAURENT - As an 11 year-old boy held captive at the Bergen-Belsen concentration camp during World War II, Moshe Peer was sent to the gas chamber at least six times. Each time he survived, watching with horrors as many of the women and children gassed with him collapsed and died. To this day, Peer doesn’t know how he was able to survive. “Maybe children resist better, I don’t know,” he said in an interview last week.

http://exposing-the-holocaust-hoax-archive.blogspot.ca/2010/04/moshe-peers-astounding-holy-shoah-tal
e.html

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)10:46
No.7446232

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)10:46 No.7446232

Replies: >>7446321

>>7446184
>The only "evidence" ever presented in favor of the holohoax lie are tortured confessions and supposed 'eyewitness' reports.
No, not really.
You just close your eyes and yell "lalalala" whenever someone brings up other evidence until that person gets tired and leaves you alone and then go back to spamming your lies.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)10:48
No.7446277

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)10:48 No.7446277

>>7446184
>http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/libcamps.shtml

please post something that is independent and not biased by right wing ideologies.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)10:49
No.7446302

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)10:49 No.7446302

Replies: >>7446364 >>7446473

>>7446184
>You should be wondering why the holocaust believers in this thread can't provide a scrap of evidence of even a single inmate being murdered in gas chambers.
Why does it matter?
There's evidence for literally everything else, including human remains, but unless historians can show the the last ounce of ashes, you will simply continue to deny that ANY evidence exists at all.

How do you feel about the Einsatzgruppen reporting to the RSHA that they killed ten thousands of Jewish civilians in Russia?
Do you think these commanders were simply lying?

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)10:50
No.7446321

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)10:50 No.7446321

Replies: >>7446376 >>7446406

File: 1353253830917.png-(54 KB, 771x704, holocaust_nafcash_com.png)

>>7446232
If you can show me only two pieces of evidence I will believe the holocaust:

1. Evidence of even a single inmate death from poison gas
2. 1/1000th of 1% of the missing human remains.

These would be easy to find, were the holocaust actually true.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)10:52
No.7446364

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)10:52 No.7446364

Replies: >>7446430

File: 1353253959720.jpg-(434 KB, 1624x1628, holocaustphotos.jpg)

>>7446302
> last ounce of ashes

How about showing even 0.001% of them?

Millions of pounds of ashes bones and teeth don't just vanish without a trace.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)10:53
No.7446376

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)10:53 No.7446376

Replies: >>7446919 >>7447024

>>7446321
>1. Evidence of even a single inmate death from poison gas

Why the hell would something like that exist? Do you think the Germans stockpiled corpses or gassed people until the Commies walked in and stopped their hand?
This was a secret action, the Nazis tried to hide what they did as good as they could.

>2. 1/1000th of 1% of the missing human remains.
Do things found by Polish or Soviet investigation commissions count?

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)10:54
No.7446406

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)10:54 No.7446406

Replies: >>7446863

>>7446321
>2. 1/1000th of 1% of the missing human remains.
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2031066,00.html

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)10:54
No.7446421

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)10:54 No.7446421

>>7444699 (OP)
>Let's see if they can prove the holohoax happened (they can't).

You're right, we can't prove that the holocaust was faked, because it was real.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)10:55
No.7446430

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)10:55 No.7446430

Replies: >>7446483 >>7446558

>>7446364
>Millions of pounds of ashes bones and teeth don't just vanish without a trace.


>At Treblinka it is clear that the ash contains many bones. Bone fragments can still be seen on the surface of the ground, especially after rain.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-16657363

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)10:57
No.7446473

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)10:57 No.7446473

Replies: >>7446502 >>7446546 >>7446741

>>7446302
I think such reports don't prove the holocaust, because the supposed holocaust is genocide using gas chambers at the internment camps. This would be like finding a report of Americans murdering Japanese POWs in Japan and using it to claim millions of Japanese were murdered in homicidal gas chambers in America. There's no logical connection from point A to point B.

Furthermore reports can only be used as the first step to investigation. If a report says "people killed here", then you can go look there for the people who were killed. If you find no evidence there you should suspect the report is inaccurate or forged. Reports are a good starting point, but hardly evidence of anything.

On the other hand how do you feel about the complete lack of reports about inmates being gassed? How did they coordinate the genocide without discussing it, even in encrypted communications?

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)10:57
No.7446483

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)10:57 No.7446483

>>7446430
inb4 never released document on gpr at treblinka containing no bodies. done by someone who was not in the country at the time and has no experience with gpr.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)10:59
No.7446502

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)10:59 No.7446502

Replies: >>7446591

>>7446473
not 1 person ever tried for war crimes ever denied the holocaust. Surely this would be a great defence.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)11:01
No.7446546

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)11:01 No.7446546

>>7446473
what were the huge gas chambers in birkenau used for and why did the germans blow them up and leave the rest of the place standing ?

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)11:01
No.7446548

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)11:01 No.7446548

Holocaust did happened. But numbers and gas chambers are lies. Main killer was typhus. And it couldn't be 6000000.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)11:01
No.7446558

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)11:01 No.7446558

Replies: >>7446583 >>7446609

>>7446430
That's quoting a fraudulent report written by Soviets shortly after the war.

The same Soviets who built the fake gas chamber, submitted fake 'human soap' to the Nuremberg trial, and also forged evidence framing Germany for the Katyn massacre, also officially accepted at Nuremberg.

The BBC article itself is about a person who claims they found mass graves, yet refuses to dig them up to prove they are mass graves, because they already concluded there are mass graves there before doing any investigation.

It's pseudoscience of the worst kind.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)11:03
No.7446583

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)11:03 No.7446583

Replies: >>7446664 >>7446690 >>7446736

>>7446558
>The same Soviets who built the fake gas chamber
Hahahahaha. Oh, brother. Take your tinfoil hat off and let your scalp breath. Do you have a legitimate source for your claims?

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)11:03
No.7446591

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)11:03 No.7446591

Replies: >>7446672 >>7447900

File: 1353254620653.jpg-(157 KB, 837x397, 1313766626656.jpg)

>>7446502
Plenty of people denied it. Many key defendants mysteriously died before being able to present their case in court.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)11:04
No.7446609

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)11:04 No.7446609

Replies: >>7447388

>>7446558

yeah they refused to dig up a mass grave...
So it must be false.

Funny how you revisionists were all behind the GPR when it proved nothing, and ditch it as soon as it actually proves the opposite,

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)11:05
No.7446615

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)11:05 No.7446615

Replies: >>7447659

Discussions of this nature on 4chan's /pol/ board will go no where. Even outside of cesspool's such as this place, it is extremely difficult to convince one side of their mistakes. The OP (and the others in this thread agreeing with him) are arguing towards a conclusion while accepting that the conclusion is already true. The language used such as "stupid Jews don't know logic" and "Jew logic is not logic" are simply misdirections used in an attempt to mask the ignorance of their arguments. Ad hominem, circular logic, and begging the question are not credible strategies of debate.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)11:07
No.7446664

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)11:07 No.7446664

Replies: >>7446707 >>7446708

>>7446583
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWCOjOj4RAU

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)11:08
No.7446672

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)11:08 No.7446672

>>7446591
Old man dies of heart attack is not a shocker. Also his lawyer made him say nothing not deny the existence of gas chambers.

I was under direct orders is a much better defence than actually denying the whole thing.though.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)11:08
No.7446677

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)11:08 No.7446677

Wow, redditors are really bad at asking for legitimate sources. For some reason, people accept the pictures posted as evidence. It's absurd.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)11:08
No.7446690

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)11:08 No.7446690

Replies: >>7446825

File: 1353254932493.jpg-(195 KB, 1280x419, 1342874532267.jpg)

>>7446583
Really, this isn't common knowledge by now?

The supposed gas chamber shown to tourists at Auschwitz was built after the war by Soviets. They modified a morgue that had doubled as an air raid shelter. They also added a huge fake chimney, to make it look more sinister.

It's officially claimed to be a "re-"construction, but is an obvious fabrication like every other piece of Soviet made anti-German propaganda.

The director of the Auschwitz museum discusses how it is a "re-"construction in an interview with David Cole:

http://youtu.be/PWCOjOj4RAU

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)11:09
No.7446707

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)11:09 No.7446707

Replies: >>7446798 >>7447719

>>7446664
Write a sentence, idiot.

How come deniers always copy paste or link to hour long videos when pressed, while normal people are able to elaborate in their own words?

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)11:09
No.7446708

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)11:09 No.7446708

>>7446664
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWCOjOj4RAU

lol is that the gas chamber in auschwitz that says on the outside that this was rebuilt after the war and was merely a representation of what the original gas chamber at auschwitz looked like?

More fucking retarded right wing bias

Anonymous
Was the Auschwitz (...) 11/18/12(Sun)11:10
No.7446736

Was the Auschwitz Gas Chamber reconstructed in the '60's? Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)11:10 No.7446736

Replies: >>7446876 >>7447007

>>7446583
Of course the traditional historians admit (today) that there were changes made and "reconstruction." The argument then becomes what is meant by "reconstruction." To revisionists this strikes of fraud and fakery, to the Holocaustorians it means that the rooms were changed or destroyed near the end of the war and were later restored to resemble their earlier deadly design.

The problem for the Holocaustorians becomes if there were no plans or architectural drawings for gas chambers and if the rooms that were found were no longer designed nor functioning as gas chambers, with what information was the room "restored?"

With that question we arrive back at the topic of "eyewitness testimony." The traditional historians generally accept it while the revisionists generally do not.

http://codoh.com/library/document/1060

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)11:11
No.7446741

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)11:11 No.7446741

>>7446473
>the supposed holocaust is genocide using gas chambers at the internment camps
No, far less than half of the victims of the Nazis died in extermination camps and only about half of the Jews too.
How come you deny something when you don't even know the most basic things?

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)11:13
No.7446783

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)11:13 No.7446783

Replies: >>7446833 >>7453237

Has anyone here who denies that this happened actually been to Birkenau?

You should it is obvious what the place is when you are stood in it.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)11:14
No.7446798

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)11:14 No.7446798

Replies: >>7447719

>>7446707
This. This a million times.

Not only are the youtube videos long but they are completely unsourced. I can't check any of their claims.

Same with every picture in this thread. If someone makes a claim, no one should be accepting it until proper evidence is provided. It needs to be sourced and everyone should be easily able to read and verify it.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)11:15
No.7446825

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)11:15 No.7446825

Replies: >>7447165

>>7446690
The mainstream view has been for a long time, that Germans used that room as a gas chamber, but it was converted and that the Soviets restored that room for a memorial.

On what ground do you claim that that is false information?

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)11:15
No.7446833

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)11:15 No.7446833

Replies: >>7446929

>>7446783
>Birkenau
You know that nothing is original in the camps right? Most of it were built after the war for that exact reason i.e. brainwash people.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)11:16
No.7446863

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)11:16 No.7446863

File: 1353255418616.jpg-(150 KB, 640x613, holocaustmyth.jpg)

>>7446406
>the remains of 16 bodies
>uncremated
>not camp inmates
>not dead from gassing

With evidence like this how could you NOT believe that millions of camp inmates were murdered in gas chambers!

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)11:17
No.7446876

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)11:17 No.7446876

>>7446736
>The traditional historians generally accept it while the revisionists generally do not.
Well, historians want to know what happened in the past, "revisionists" already do and dismiss everything that doesn't support their view.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)11:19
No.7446919

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)11:19 No.7446919

Replies: >>7446975

>>7446376
Why the hell would you believe anyone was gassed if there's no forensic evidence of even a single inmate death from poison gas?

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)11:20
No.7446929

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)11:20 No.7446929

>>7446833
Hahaha Birkenau is just across the road from Auschwitz. been there got the t shirt. Even have part of a pair of glasses from canada 2

keep up with the myth though its funny.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)11:21
No.7446952

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)11:21 No.7446952

Replies: >>7447018

>>7445420
There is a difference between hating a race and committing genocide upon it.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)11:22
No.7446975

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)11:22 No.7446975

>>7446919
lol forensic evidence can neither prove or disprove that gassings did not happen at Auschwitz.

I wonder who said that ?

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)11:22
No.7446980

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)11:22 No.7446980

Replies: >>7447062 >>7447991

Alright, holohoax deniers, I have a hypothetical situation for you.


If tomorrow, documents were released that proved the holocaust did not occur, or didn't occur in the way that jews have been propagating for the last 70 years, what would actually change? I'm talk a chest of documents signed by Hitler about how much he loved the jews, a video in the concentration camps showing jews getting along just fine, anything. What do you think would actually change?

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)11:23
No.7447007

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)11:23 No.7447007

Replies: >>7447748

File: 1353255837721.jpg-(103 KB, 760x522, auschgasbluep.jpg)

>>7446736
>with what information was the room "restored?"
Maybe they used the blueprints?

You people are ridiculous.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)11:24
No.7447018

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)11:24 No.7447018

Replies: >>7447217

>>7446952
Really ? based on what evidence.
Lets see the historical evidence of people that hated another race that did not attempt genocide on them please.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)11:24
No.7447024

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)11:24 No.7447024

Replies: >>7447120 >>7447152

>>7446376
Sure, provided they did a full excavation, inventoried the remains, quantified them accurately, and invited international investigators to come confirm their findings.

If you're going to cite that "bones laying on the surface" report, it doesn't meet any of those criteria.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)11:25
No.7447031

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)11:25 No.7447031

Replies: >>7447061

>>7445955
Man, I need that image of how hitler argued with the jews here.

We aren't talking about that part at the moment, do not move the goalposts before a point is resolved.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)11:26
No.7447061

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)11:26 No.7447061

Replies: >>7447156

>>7447031
Wait, here it is.
>>7445554

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)11:26
No.7447062

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)11:26 No.7447062

>>7446980
Nothing would happen because no one would care about this new information except 1% of americans that probably vote for gary johnson, buncha hipster fucks, and a few people in every country who won't even break the 1% mark.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)11:29
No.7447120

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)11:29 No.7447120

>>7447024
>inventoried the remains, quantified them accurately, and invited international investigators to come confirm their findings.
Yeah, thought so.
Why the hell would they do that, especially the last thing.
The Germans say they killed the Jews, the Jews say they were killed, the locals say Jews were killed there and then you find a pile of dead bodies.


You realize that this wasn't about making a court case in America in 2012 about some obscure shit that nobody knows anything about, but that to these people this was plainly obvious and they just documented what they found?
Were there international commissions verifying the burial of the dead of the American civil war?

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)11:30
No.7447152

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)11:30 No.7447152

Replies: >>7447900

>>7447024
yeah because digging up graves is something that would happen 70 years after the fact to justify your ridiculous ideas.

You may as well say nobody ever died in a graveyard because you wont dig up the graves to see the corpses with your own eyes.

Still no response on what the germans intended to do with all the jews they transported or why not one person ever on trial said the holocaust did not happen,

History is in agreement here and no matter how many stupid pictures you show it will not change the fact that it happened.
cry more butthurt nazis.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)11:30
No.7447156

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)11:30 No.7447156

>>7447061
It's funny, because on literally everything but chemistry the deniers have zero answers once their copy pastas are proven to be bullshit and the only reason for that is that normal people cannot understand the chemistry.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)11:31
No.7447165

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)11:31 No.7447165

Replies: >>7447202 >>7447265 >>7447516

File: 1353256280096.jpg-(130 KB, 504x346, BlueprintKremaI.jpg)

>>7446825
1. The original blueprint for the building shows it had the internal walls the Soviets removed to make a large "chamber" (see attached)
2. The blueprints are not for a gas chamber
3. There are no plans found from the Germans to convert it
4. There is no evidence the Germans removed internal walls, then replaced the walls exactly as the original blueprints had been
5. There is a grate in the floor the victims could have kicked the Zyklon B pellets down
6. Chemical testing has shown the building was not exposed to cyanide gas
7. The Soviets added a big fake chimney attached to nothing

Anonymous
Gas chambers that (...) 11/18/12(Sun)11:33
No.7447202

Gas chambers that really were used by the Nazis Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)11:33 No.7447202

File: 1353256382494.gif-(34 KB, 360x287, gcdlb3.gif)

>>7447165
8. They for some inexplicable reason didn't use any of their existing gas technology in this supposed "gas chamber".

>Because the Germans actually had equipment and technology easily adaptable for mass murder in their concentration camps and in major railroad centers such as Budapest, why wasn't this technology used in Auschwitz or Dachau or -- for that matter -- Budapest? Why would the Nazis have employed rather ordinary, dreary cellars with little holes in the ceilings instead of well-designed delousing chambers, or perhaps large-scale variations of those chambers? To be consistent with the extermination theory, the answers to the above questions must of necessity be so bizarre that they are easily demolished by simple technical arguments.

http://www.historiography-project.com/misc/nazigaschambers.html

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)11:33
No.7447217

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)11:33 No.7447217

Replies: >>7447317

>>7447018
For example, I hate the jews.

However, I have never attempted to genocide you.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)11:34
No.7447239

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)11:34 No.7447239

Replies: >>7447258

File: 1353256469294.jpg-(35 KB, 500x240, they_live_obey.jpg)

you people need to realize there were children liberated from Auschwitz. Yes, the children who were supposed ton gassed on their first day.

And I'm talking about 0-3 year olds here who needed constant care which they received, since Auschwitz like the other camps also had a children's hospital.

That alone should make you realize something is wrong around the story, yet you're busy fighting against claims no one cares about.

For me its clear that the Germans commited war crimes but its also clear that the official story is bullshit in some parts.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)11:35
No.7447258

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)11:35 No.7447258

>>7447239
Both sides committed horrible atrocities, but one side after the war continues to demonise the other.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)11:35
No.7447265

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)11:35 No.7447265

>>7447165
>implying that the germans actually built Auschwitz.
>implying that the chemical testing was done at Auschwitz
>implying that the polish camp that was there was originally a death camp

Do you even know about the sites ?

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)11:38
No.7447317

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)11:38 No.7447317

Replies: >>7447414

>>7447217
you have no power to be able to
and i am not a jew
Its not only jews who think the holocaust happened retard.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)11:41
No.7447388

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)11:41 No.7447388

Replies: >>7447454

>>7446609
>1. A mass grave would disturb the soil
>2. This soil is not disturbed
>3. Therefore there is no mass grave here

This makes logical sense. If the soil is undisturbed it rules out the existence of a mass grave

>1. Digging a hole for any reason will disturb soil
>2. This soil is disturbed
>3. Therefore it is a mass grave

This makes no logical sense. Not all holes in the ground are mass graves.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)11:42
No.7447414

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)11:42 No.7447414

Replies: >>7447497

>>7447317
Even if I did have the power to, kike, I would not. Because I don't particularly like human misery. Instead I would support the peaceful emigration of jewish people; possibly to israel if they want it so much.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)11:44
No.7447454

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)11:44 No.7447454

>>7447388
after 70 years you could tell the difference between disturbed and undisturbed soil.

good work there

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)11:45
No.7447497

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)11:45 No.7447497

Replies: >>7447655

>>7447414
you live in a magical kingdom of pixies and faries too?

you are delusional.
show me evidence of 2 races that hate each other and one does not try to kill the other ?

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)11:46
No.7447516

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)11:46 No.7447516

Replies: >>7448226 >>7450016

>>7447165
>1. The original blueprint for the building shows it had the internal walls the Soviets removed to make a large "chamber" (see attached)
Uh, what?
The huge room to the bottom right was the gas chamber.
IIRC the soviets later made the room bigger than it was before, but that doesn't really change much since we know the original plans and they're even there on display, I think.

>2. The blueprints are not for a gas chamber
All gas chambers were called morgues on plans, as far as I know.
Remember, this was a secret task.

>3. There are no plans found from the Germans to convert it
They obviously did it, so why does it matter?
Most documents were destroyed.

>4. There is no evidence the Germans removed internal walls, then replaced the walls exactly as the original blueprints had been
See 1.

>5. There is a grate in the floor the victims could have kicked the Zyklon B pellets down
That was not in the "morgue" room originally, the Soviets fucked up the restoration, I think.

>6. Chemical testing has shown the building was not exposed to cyanide gas
I don't know about that and I don't trust studies done by fraudsters.

>7. The Soviets added a big fake chimney attached to nothing
Completely irrelevant.

>8. They for some inexplicable reason didn't use any of their existing gas technology in this supposed "gas chamber".
I don't know why they didn't use that, they probably had their reasons.
either way this is completely irrelevant. Things were not perfect in the past.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)11:50
No.7447655

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)11:50 No.7447655

Replies: >>7447820

>>7447497
So kill implies genocide now? Typical kike argumentation, this is exactly what hitler said would happen.

In response to your question, I would say that blacks and caucasians hate each other; and yet you don't see the caucasians, who have the far stronger balance of power, to be murdering the blacks in great numbers.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)11:51
No.7447659

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)11:51 No.7447659

Replies: >>7447688

>>7446615
Holy fuck, if you had read the thread you'd realize how retarded your post is. I've been lurking this thread and this is my first post and you clearly haven't read a single thing posted for either 'side'.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)11:52
No.7447688

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)11:52 No.7447688

>>7447659
And now you see how strong the presence of jidf is on /pol/

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)11:53
No.7447719

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)11:53 No.7447719

Replies: >>7447768 >>7447780

>>7446707
>>7446798
How about the source being that he is actually walking around fucking Auschwitz? Pull your head out of your ass.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)11:54
No.7447748

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)11:54 No.7447748

Replies: >>7447847

File: 1353257647911.jpg-(78 KB, 504x334, GasChFloorMark.jpg)

>>7447007
That blueprint shows the building with the internal walls removed by the Soviets. The question is what did the Soviets base their "reconstruction" on?

Don't you feel silly?

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)11:54
No.7447768

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)11:54 No.7447768

>>7447719
Also isn't this David Cole guy in hiding due to this video? I only seen this mentioned in passing, so i've no idea.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)11:54
No.7447780

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)11:54 No.7447780

>>7447719
How is that a source for anything?
Do they still burn thousands of Jews every day there and have ten thousands work under terrible condition without food?

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)11:56
No.7447820

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)11:56 No.7447820

Replies: >>7447896

>>7447655
Are you seriously trying to revert to semantics with the difference between killing and genocide?

also you must be retarded if you think whites have never attempted genocide on black races
The british tried to poison aborigines in Australia
The early americans tried to wipe out the native americans

In reverse the Hatians wiped out the french white people there

You are seriously retarded if you think genocide is not what happens when 2 races hate each other.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)11:56
No.7447847

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)11:56 No.7447847

Replies: >>7447886 >>7448226

>>7447748
That's impossible to answer without more information.
Maybe they used the blueprints but made the gas chamber bigger for some reason.
Maybe they used eye witness accounts that were not right.
Why does it matter? Like, at all?
The blueprint is there, so why does the present state matter?

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)11:57
No.7447886

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)11:57 No.7447886

>>7447847
You guys realise that the germans did not build Auschwitz right?

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)11:58
No.7447896

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)11:58 No.7447896

Replies: >>7448127

>>7447820
I'm sorry, could you show me any evidence of genocide commited by white people upon blacks after 1920, when civilisation became more civilised?

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)11:58
No.7447900

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)11:58 No.7447900

Replies: >>7447949 >>7448033

>>7447152
>Still no response on what the germans intended to do with all the jews they transported or why not one person ever on trial said the holocaust did not happen,

Those have been replied to. Stop lying. Anyone can scroll up and see you are lying: >>7445489 >>7445505 >>7446591

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)12:00
No.7447949

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)12:00 No.7447949

Replies: >>7447984

>>7447900
Yeah, but that's nazi propaganda copypasta and easily shown to be bullshit, not a real rebuttal.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)12:01
No.7447984

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)12:01 No.7447984

Replies: >>7448076

>>7447949
>the evidence you showed was FALSE!
>I can't show you why though

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)12:01
No.7447991

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)12:01 No.7447991

>>7446980
It doesn't matter what would actually change. The truth is important here. You put personal investment in this (Or rather, alot of believers have been in this thread), whereas it shouldn't be either way.

Wasn't Israel basically given to the Jews because of the Holocaust, though? It would back peoples claims of it being a rogue nation with nuclear power which has no 'right' to exist. It's been too long anyway, so it's not like they would just have it taken from them again.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)12:03
No.7448033

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)12:03 No.7448033

>>7447900
So why did they move jews further away from The soviet east during the later stages of the war?
I am not amazing at geography but they moved jews from the east further west to concentration camps.
This holds no water.

Also Baer had a heart attack and said nothing about extermination camps while awaiting trial under his lawyers advice.

Try harder

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)12:04
No.7448076

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)12:04 No.7448076

>>7447984
see this >>7445548

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)12:06
No.7448127

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)12:06 No.7448127

>>7447896
how about partition
The attempted genocide of aborigines continued until the 60s
here you go genocide
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocides_in_history
one race hates another so much that it attempts to wipe it out. Your arguments are invalid and wrong.
You live in a fairy world full of bullshit.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)12:10
No.7448226

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)12:10 No.7448226

Replies: >>7448269 >>7448468

File: 1353258620845.jpg-(146 KB, 726x548, 1314510573759.jpg)

>>7447516
>Completely irrelevant.

How do you figure it is not relevant that the Soviets built a huge fake chimney beside the fake 'gas chamber'? It exposes that their goal was not honest reconstruction. They were engaging in blatant fraud.

>>7447847
The blueprint shows it is not a gas chamber. The building matched the blueprint when it was found.

It was subsequently modified by the Soviets so they could have a fake gas chamber to show off as propaganda.

It is in fact the morgue room of the crematorium.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)12:12
No.7448269

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)12:12 No.7448269

Replies: >>7448479

>>7448226
>The building matched the blueprint when it was found.
No it wasn't. Even Cole notices remains of walls that shouldn't be there according to the original plan.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)12:20
No.7448468

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)12:20 No.7448468

>>7448226
A gas chamber is not a WMD.
Someone who says something as inane as that cannot be taken seriously and everything else he says is highly suspect.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)12:20
No.7448479

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)12:20 No.7448479

Replies: >>7448551

>>7448269
Regardless, it certainly wasn't a gas chamber in the original design.

There's no way to introduce gas, nor any ventilation systems. The Soviets crudely knocked some holes in the roof which were not part of the original building.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)12:23
No.7448551

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)12:23 No.7448551

>>7448479
It was a prototype.

>On September 3 Fritsch decided to experiment. First he crammed five or six hundred Russians and another 250 sick prisoners from the camp hospital into an underground detention cell. Then the windows were covered with earth. SS men wearing gas masks opened the Zyklon-B canisters to remove what looked like blue chalk pellets about the size of peas, creating a cloud of poison gas. After they left, the doors were sealed. (Höss, Commandant at Auschwitz, 173. See also Yehuda Bauer, "Auschwitz," in Jäckel and Rohwere, eds., Der Mord an den Juden, 167-68)

>Höss wrote later that death was instantaneous. Perhaps that was what he was told. But he was not present to witness the event; he was away on a business trip. Other sources indicate that even the next day not everyone was dead, and the SS men had to release more insecticide. Eventually all the prisoners died. When Höss returned to Auschwitz, he heard about the successful experiment. On Eichmann's next visit to Auschwitz, Höss told him about the possibilities of Zyklon-B, and, according to Höss, the two decided to use the pesticide and the peasant farmstead for extermination.

Anonymous
Where is Elie’s (...) 11/18/12(Sun)12:24
No.7448557

Where is Elie’s Tattoo? Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)12:24 No.7448557

Replies: >>7451708

File: 1353259441176.jpg-(123 KB, 480x562, xxxtatoo02.jpg)

Elie Wiesel has said under oath that he has one, and that it is number A7713.

But in the 1996 full-length documentary film “Elie Wiesel Goes Home,” we see his bare arm, but where is the tattoo?

http://www.eliewieseltattoo.com/the-evidence/the-tattoo/where-is-elies-tattoo/

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)12:34
No.7448833

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)12:34 No.7448833

File: 1353260077971.png-(16 KB, 325x385, 1348160272793.png)

>>7445536
>the trial transcript where it gets torn to shreds

>>7445762
>also transcripts read em
>http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/i/irving.david/libel.suit/ftp.py?people/i/irving.david/libe
l.suit//transcripts//day008.41

Did you expect nobody to read this? Or you didn't read it yourself?

It only mentions The Rudolf Report to say they haven't read it yet.

Your lie would have been more believable if you hadn't posted this link, which shows you are a liar. Anyone can follow the link themselves and see you are lying about the contents.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)12:38
No.7448942

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)12:38 No.7448942

Replies: >>7448979

File: 1353260308700.jpg-(199 KB, 602x405, 1321651305889.jpg)

>The "6-million-gas-chambers myth "is an arithmetic and technical nonsense. As a matter of fact the howling, snivelling, Shoa business, 50 years after the war, is disgusting, debasing, : it is a disgraceful shame .

>No people in History has ever been wailing about its losses 50 years after a war, even its true and real losses. Even if the 6-million-gas-chambers were true, it would be a dishonour to make such din and pump up so much money everywhere: who were the usurers of the Weimar Republic? You know it as well as I do. It is all the more so as we know that 6.000.000 is gross exaggeration and that the zyclon B gas chambers are a technical impossibility. (See Degesh Trial in 1949). In fact 150,000 or 200,000 Jews died in the German camps of typhus or starvation. Many others died but as fighters against Germany to which we, the Jews, had declared war in 1933! ( Hitler was allergic to the hegemony of gold and of the dollar: so he could give work to six million unemployed, before the functioning of German armament factories!).

>Do you know the book published at this period and written by our congener Kaufmann: GERMANY MUST PERISH? We know that 80,000,000 Goyim were slaughtered in the USSR, in a political regime which was entirely Jewish, from Marx and Warburg, to Kaganovitch, Frenkel, Yagoda, the executioners. We know that after 1945 Americans and Russians killed and raped German communities all over Europe from Lithuania to Albania. We know that 1,500,000 German war prisoners were starved to death after the war (a famous book was published a few years ago, but is ignored to day).

—Jewish French revisionist Dr. Roger Dommergue Polacco de Menasce

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)12:39
No.7448979

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)12:39 No.7448979

>>7448942
Cool incoherent rambling, bro.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)12:40
No.7448983

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)12:40 No.7448983

Replies: >>7451144

File: 1353260403309.jpg-(77 KB, 580x554, holocaustatrocities.jpg)

Reports of widespread torture at the postwar American-run "war crimes" trials at Dachau leaked out, resulting in so many protests that a formal investigation was eventually carried out. A US Army Commission of inquiry consisting of Pennsylvania Judge Edward van Roden and Texas Supreme Court Judge Gordon Simpson officially confirmed the charges of gross abuse. German defendants, they found, were routinely tortured at Dachau with savage beatings, burning matches under fingernails, kicking of testicles, months of solitary confinement, and threats of family reprisals. Low ranking prisoners were assured that their "confessions" would be used only against their former superiors in the dock. Later, though, these hapless men found their own "confessions" used against them when they were tried in turn. High ranking defendants were cynically assured that by "voluntarily" accepting all responsibility themselves they would thereby protect their former subordinates from prosecution.

Judge Edward L. van Roden, "American Atrocities in Germany," The Progressive, Feb. 1949, pp. 21-22. Reprinted in: The Congressional Record - Appendix, Vol. 95, Sec. 12, (March 10, 1949), pp. A1365-66.; Dachau trial defense attorney Lt. Col. Willis M. Everett, Jr., reviewed prosecution methods in a petition submitted to the Supreme Court. Complete text in: The Congressional Record - Senate, Vol. 95, Sec. 2, (March 10, 1949), pp. 2159-2165. Important excerpts were published in: The Congressional Record - Appendix, Vol. 95, Sec. 13, (April 5, 1949), pp. A-2065-67. Also useful are: Montgomery Belgion, Victor's Justice (Regnery, 1949).; Reginald T. Paget, Manstein: His Campaigns and His Trial (London: 1951).

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)12:45
No.7449138

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)12:45 No.7449138

Replies: >>7451106

File: 1353260729864.gif-(17 KB, 217x320, Auschwitz.gif)

Let's have a look - this is the door to the 'gas chamber' at Auschwitz - Yes, that is a window, and it is unbarred. The door itself is a typical wooden office door, it is not sealed. A visitor recently asked a guide why the prisoners didn't break the window and escape, the guide replied that an armed guard was stationed outside the door. That is, they really expect people to believe that this was a 'gas chamber', and, amazingly, people do. The 'gas chamber' is actually a morgue room in a crematorium.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)12:50
No.7449267

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)12:50 No.7449267

>>7444699 (OP)
>Let's see if they can prove the holohoax >happened (they Can't)

Nice one OP, still no proof yet....

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)12:57
No.7449485

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)12:57 No.7449485

Replies: >>7449788

http://www.youtube.com/verify_controversy?next_url=/watch%3Fv%3Dxm8UmMuRSSw

This one usually wakes people up. Especially the segment with the Jewish lady talking about how she painted Snow White murals for the children's barracks and put on a play eith all the kids who were supposedly gassed as soon as they got there.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)13:02
No.7449636

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)13:02 No.7449636

Replies: >>7450140

OP, can you refute the gas chamber claims in this article? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Holocaust_denial

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)13:07
No.7449788

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)13:07 No.7449788

Replies: >>7449841

File: 1353262056965.png-(303 KB, 1492x746, 1319548708527.png)

>>7449485
Here's an unblocked version of it.

http://youtu.be/Ux4n8E-PUIU

It's a short clip from a full 2 hour movie debunking Speilberg's movie "The Last Days", which prominently features a lying woman who claims she ate and defecated diamonds for years, escaped from inside a gas chamber, and was experimented on by Mengele himself. When you see what an obvious liar she is, but still somehow got featured in a mainstream holocaust movie, it really makes you wonder about the motivations and integrity of people promoting the holocaust.

It's like they don't even care she is lying, they just want to feature the most sensationalistic horror stories.

http://youtu.be/F7tHB8tD34s

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)13:08
No.7449809

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)13:08 No.7449809

Replies: >>7450593 >>7451001

File: 1353262094993.jpg-(7 KB, 125x190, Hitler_laughing.jpg)

>Develop Tabun and Sarin nerve agents specifically for the purpose of killing human beings
>Never use it for ethical purposes, coincidentally Allies don;t find out about it until well after the war
>Use anti-lice pesticide for the purpose of killing human beings despite having much more potent homicidal nerve agents with no OTHER use for them
THOSE WACKY NAZIS, BOY, THEY NEVER MAKE SENSE!

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)13:09
No.7449841

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)13:09 No.7449841

>>7449788
Don;t forget how Mengele himself removed Zisblatt's tattoo, that's why she doesn't have one! What reason do you have to doubt her anti-semites?

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)13:09
No.7449846

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)13:09 No.7449846

This shit was cleared up in that David Irving lawsuit. There's a full transcript available.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)13:11
No.7449904

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)13:11 No.7449904

Replies: >>7452762

File: 1353262293906.jpg-(365 KB, 1161x1104, churchillholyhoax.jpg)

WHAT A COINCIDENCE!

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)13:15
No.7450016

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)13:15 No.7450016

Replies: >>7451185

>>7447516
>All gas chambers were called morgues on plans, as far as I know.
Maybe because they WERE morgues.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)13:20
No.7450140

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)13:20 No.7450140

Replies: >>7451154

>>7449636
That entire section is full of debunked lies. The Rudolf Report debunks the part about chemical testing. Notice how they don't even mention The Rudolf Report in that section, and cite the Markiewicz fraud as though it were credible, despite being thoroughly debunked by Rudolf.

>The Rudolf Report: Expert Report on Chemical and Technical Aspects of the ‘Gas Chambers’ of Auschwitz
http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/trr/

>8.3.2. Institute for Forensic Research, Cracow
http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/trr/8.html#8.3.2.

>8.4.2. False Method of Analysis
http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/trr/8.html#8.4.2.

Mel Mermelstein is an exposed liar. Doesn't it raise some red flags for you that the word of a proven liar is used as "evidence" of gas chambers? Were the gas chambers true they wouldn't be so desperate that they have to cite known liars. This reflects the mentality of holocaust proponents, they don't care about honesty they just want to trick you by any means necessary.

>'Best Witness': Mel Mermelstein, Auschwitz and the IHR
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v14/v14n1p25_Okeefe.html

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)13:35
No.7450593

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)13:35 No.7450593

Replies: >>7451221

>>7449809
The whole premise of the Jewish Holocaust defies simple logic: Why would Germany, fighting a war on two fronts...with fuel scarce...short of all resources...ship millions of Jews by railroad...hundreds and thousands of miles...to camps specially built just to hold them...feed them...clothe them...tattoo them in order to keep track of them....just to KILL them?

It doesn't even begin to make sense. If the Germans had wanted to kill the Jews, they would have done it the way the Russian Jews murdered 20 to 80 million Russian Christians earlier in the century...with a bullet to the base of the skull, wherever they were found.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)13:48
No.7450968

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)13:48 No.7450968

Auschwitz - Why the Gas Chambers are a Myth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcHni-Im1lw

Ernst Zundel - Holocaust Dismantled
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGMNecZ4Pms

Ernst Zundel vs. Zionist - Truth vs. Blasphemy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DNdlWp_CAE

Herman Rosenblat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j30sWIOMIak

The Holocaust Lie by David Irving
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VOv3APYilI

The Holocaust Testimonies You Didn't Hear
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtlPlZGvgY0

The Montel Williams Show - David Cole and Mark Weber
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jx9G4zmpKv0

Off Your Knees Germany (Ernst Zundel 1983-2003)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9flaOFBqQXc

One-Third of the Holocaust
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzBpcuE8mpc&feature=related

The Phil Donahue Show - Holocaust Denial
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRrP7AevKi4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOfZu7lu7So&feature=relmfu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAQ16VVmv60&feature=relmfu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czDx-7nl28s&feature=relmfu

Spielberg's Hoax - The Last Days of the Big Lie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80GgRWuXcO8&feature=player_embedded

The Transfer Agreement
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCX62OpLggA&feature=youtu.be

The Truth Behind the Gates of Auschwitz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGPhfe1jSLk

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)13:50
No.7451001

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)13:50 No.7451001

>>7449809
Guess the Germans are stupid, I mean, they did kill more than 10 million people and they didn't use chemical agents anywhere.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)13:56
No.7451106

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)13:56 No.7451106

>>7449138
How do you know that is the original door?
It is my understanding that both deniers and historians agree that Krema I was reconstructed at least once, most likely twice.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)13:57
No.7451144

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)13:57 No.7451144

>>7448983
It is interesting that the final report on that did not support the allegations of torture, only of trickery and the simple fact that this caused such a huge scandal completely debunks the denier claim that torture was used systematically and nobody on the Allied side cared or that they successfully covered it up.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)13:58
No.7451154

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)13:58 No.7451154

Replies: >>7451247 >>7452100

>>7450140
Doesn't it raise some red flags for you that the word of a proven fraudster is used as "evidence" against gas chambers?

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)13:59
No.7451185

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)13:59 No.7451185

>>7450016
Maybe, but then why the undressing rooms? and why does an aerial photo show people walking from a train towards them?
Did the SS start the introduction to the camps with a guided tour through all facilities?

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)14:00
No.7451221

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)14:00 No.7451221

Replies: >>7451313

>>7450593
You should listen to some Nazi propaganda. These people truly believed that the Jews are born evil and could not be taught to be good.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)14:01
No.7451247

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)14:01 No.7451247

Replies: >>7451305

>>7451154
Who?

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)14:03
No.7451305

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)14:03 No.7451305

Replies: >>7451476

>>7451247
Germar Rudolph.

>He also fraudulently assigns academic degrees to his nyms. For example:
Dr. Manfred Gerner
Dr. Ch. Konrad, Historiker
Dr. jur. Werner Kretschmer
Dr. Lennard Rose
Dr.Dr. R. Scholz, Chemiker und Pharmakologe
H.K. Westphal, Dipl.-Ingenieur
>He often writes articles using two or more of his nyms as separate authors:

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)14:04
No.7451313

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)14:04 No.7451313

Replies: >>7451340

File: 1353265442312.jpg-(36 KB, 232x237, 1345771256081.jpg)

>>7451221
Why would Germany, fighting a war on two fronts...with fuel scarce...short of all resources...ship millions of Jews by railroad...hundreds and thousands of miles...to camps specially built just to hold them...feed them...clothe them...tattoo them in order to keep track of them....just to KILL them?

It doesn't even begin to make sense. If the Germans had wanted to kill the Jews, they would have done it the way the Russian Jews murdered 20 to 80 million Russian Christians earlier in the century...with a bullet to the base of the skull, wherever they were found.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)14:05
No.7451340

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)14:05 No.7451340

Replies: >>7451430

>>7451313
It makes a lot of sense to kill the Jews, even during a war, if you're a Nazi.
What kind of retard are you? You neither know history nor even the Nazi side?

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)14:08
No.7451430

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)14:08 No.7451430

Replies: >>7451479

File: 1353265733128.gif-(21 KB, 450x573, 1324939197850.gif)

>>7451340
Why would Germany, fighting a war on two fronts...with fuel scarce...short of all resources...ship millions of Jews by railroad...hundreds and thousands of miles...to camps specially built just to hold them...feed them...clothe them...tattoo them in order to keep track of them....just to KILL them?

It doesn't even begin to make sense. If the Germans had wanted to kill the Jews, they would have done it the way the Russian Jews murdered 20 to 80 million Russian Christians earlier in the century...with a bullet to the base of the skull, wherever they were found.

Anonymous
Character assassins 11/18/12(Sun)14:11
No.7451476

Character assassins Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)14:11 No.7451476

Replies: >>7451558

File: 1353265860479.jpg-(32 KB, 200x286, germar.jpg)

>>7451305
Nowhere in that brochure is reference made to the special expertise and qualifications of the authors given (H. K. Westphal, Dipl.-Ingenieur, Dr. W. Kretschmer, Jurist, Dr. Ch. Konrad, Historiker, Dr. R. Scholz, Chemiker und Pharmakologe), nor would the claims and arguments brought forward in this brochure require the qualifications of these experts. Though it was certainly incorrect to do this, I would like to explain why it was done, as it was certainly not done in order to claim qualifications that are actually not present. Let me therefore be a bit more detailed.

In spring and summer 1992 I was called by several defence lawyers as an expert witness in several trials imposed on Revisionists in Germany (see footnote 103 of the brochure mentioned). In these trials -- as in all trials against Revisionists -- the judges refused to accept any evidence presented by the defence, including all expert witnesses. I had to learn that a chemist (me) was being refused because he was neither a toxicologist nor a historian, an engineer (Leuchter) being refused because he was neither a chemist nor a historian, a historian (Prof. Haverbeck) being refused because he was neither a chemist nor an engineer. My conclusions were that one obviously had to be at the same time an engineer, a chemist, a toxicologist, a historian and a perhaps even an barrister to be accepted as an expert witness at a German court. The legal process being so perverted in Germany, we decided to mock it by inventing a person with all these features, but then we realized that this would be a bit unrealistic, so we split that person into many. That is the background.

http://vho.org/GB/c/GR/CharacterAssassins.html

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)14:11
No.7451479

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)14:11 No.7451479

Replies: >>7451596

>>7451430
You can just post "bump".

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)14:14
No.7451558

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)14:14 No.7451558

>>7451476
He claimed to have credentials he didn't actually have. His explanation is weak as hell.
>I'll commit fraud to mock someone who isn't even going to read my texts
Yeah, sure. Makes a lot of sense.
99% of the people who read his stuff cannot possibly know that he's just playing a prank and will assume the article was really written by Dr.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)14:16
No.7451596

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)14:16 No.7451596

Replies: >>7451646 >>7451710

File: 1353266165099.jpg-(352 KB, 1172x791, 1327364329495.jpg)

>>7451479
You keep responding to the post while ignoring the contents. It has become surreal.

Why would Germany, fighting a war on two fronts...with fuel scarce...short of all resources...ship millions of Jews by railroad...hundreds and thousands of miles...to camps specially built just to hold them...feed them...clothe them...tattoo them in order to keep track of them....just to KILL them?

It doesn't even begin to make sense. If the Germans had wanted to kill the Jews, they would have done it the way the Russian Jews murdered 20 to 80 million Russian Christians earlier in the century...with a bullet to the base of the skull, wherever they were found.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)14:18
No.7451646

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)14:18 No.7451646

Replies: >>7451727

>>7451596
The Germans shot more than a million Jews dead, but deniers deny that part of the holocaust too...

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)14:20
No.7451708

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)14:20 No.7451708

Replies: >>7451782

>>7448557

On his other arm?

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)14:20
No.7451710

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)14:20 No.7451710

>>7451596
>bullet to the head where ever they were found
lol this is what stormfags actually believe

That whole gulag thing?
Never happened!
The reds just shot everyone in the street! They NEVER shipped millions of people thousands of mile cross country to the middle of nowhere to work camps!

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)14:21
No.7451727

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)14:21 No.7451727

Replies: >>7451772 >>7451819 >>7452099

File: 1353266486738.png-(40 KB, 235x255, 1322128023801.png)

>>7451646
But, why would Germany, fighting a war on two fronts...with fuel scarce...short of all resources...ship millions of Jews by railroad...hundreds and thousands of miles...to camps specially built just to hold them...feed them...clothe them...tattoo them in order to keep track of them....just to KILL them?

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)14:23
No.7451772

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)14:23 No.7451772

>>7451727
The ones that were clothed and fed worked.
The other ones couldn't be killed where they lived because the whole operation was secret and if you shoot thousands of people in the streets of Paris, the world couldn't have ignored that.
Shooting civilians was also very hard on the people doing it, so more impersonal means were preferred once available.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)14:23
No.7451782

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)14:23 No.7451782

Replies: >>7451808

>>7451708
It's supposed to be on the left.

>Q. And what [number] was tattooed on your left arm?
>A. My number was A7713. My father’s number was 7712.

Which is irrelevant anyways. He has both sleeves rolled up in the video. Both arms are visible.

http://youtu.be/Mr8_JaKde2Q
http://www.eliewieseltattoo.com/the-evidence/the-tattoo/where-is-elies-tattoo/

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)14:24
No.7451808

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)14:24 No.7451808

Replies: >>7452188

>>7451782
Eli Wiesel is a huge liar anyway, pretty much everything he ever said has been proved to be impossible by historians and plain common sense.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)14:25
No.7451819

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)14:25 No.7451819

Replies: >>7451941 >>7452280

>>7451727
Why would the Soviet Union, ship millions of counter-revolutionaries thousands of miles cross country, feed them and clothe them, only to kill them?

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)14:27
No.7451887

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)14:27 No.7451887

>wasting resources to kill millions of people is illogical
Who knew?

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)14:30
No.7451941

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)14:30 No.7451941

Replies: >>7452083

>>7451819

The Soviet Gulags weren't a cog in a genocidal program.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)14:36
No.7452083

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)14:36 No.7452083

Replies: >>7452210 >>7452280

>>7451941
Irrelevant.
The point is they wasted resources to transport people thousands of miles just so they could die. An act that when viewed without proper context doesn't appear to make sense.

Stormfags claim this logic is good cause to doubt the existence of the holocaust yet I don't see too many of them sticking up for the Soviets.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)14:37
No.7452099

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)14:37 No.7452099

Replies: >>7456556

>>7451727

Why would the U.S., during that same war, collect all Japanese Americans from across the west coast, ship them to specially built camps, feed them, clothe them, and number them, for no reason except to ensure they weren't spies?

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)14:37
No.7452100

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)14:37 No.7452100

Replies: >>7452154

File: 1353267425247.jpg-(42 KB, 469x354, 1321927189915.jpg)

>>7451154
What is used as evidence against the gas chambers is forensic science. It involves chemical testing, empirical evidence, reproducible results, and hard data.

This is in stark contrast to someone's word (a.k.a. testimony), in which case you are relying entirely on the trustworthiness of the person giving testimony. Mel Mermelstein is not only a proven liar, he was proven to be lying in his testimony about gas chambers specifically. His word is worthless, and citing it demonstrates the inherent dishonesty of that wikipedia article.

You are conflating forensics with eyewitness testimony. One depends on the scientific method, the other depends on trust.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)14:39
No.7452154

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)14:39 No.7452154

>>7452100
>What is used as evidence against the gas chambers is forensic science. It involves chemical testing, empirical evidence, reproducible results, and hard data.
Do you claim to be able to follow the arguments based on chemistry?
Don't make me laugh. You just blindly believe the side that supports your notion.
There's circumstantial evidence for that: no denier ever explains what exactly is wrong with the official studies and what Rudolf found in their own words.
It's always copy paste.
A chemist should be able to throw us a simplified explanation or summary of the main points, but that never ever happens.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)14:40
No.7452188

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)14:40 No.7452188

Replies: >>7452253

File: 1353267650100.jpg-(83 KB, 672x480, 1321652268683.jpg)

>>7451808
And he is a staple of the holocaust industry. Nobody involved with it has any integrity.

The holocaust is promoted a bunch of liars who know damn well they are promoting lies. That's why they have no compunction about supporting blatant liars like Elie Wiesel and Irene Zisblatt and helping to spread their lies far and wide.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)14:41
No.7452210

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)14:41 No.7452210

>>7452083

>genocidal intentions
>irrelevant to the Holocaust

Seriously, nigger?

http://www.enotes.com/gulag-68689-reference/gulag
>The Gulag differed from straightforward conscripted slavery in that its victims were convicted of an offense and given a specific sentence. People did leave the Gulag at the end of their sentences, although many were re-sentenced on the completion of their initial term, and millions died before their release date was reached, either due to the harsh conditions of Gulag life or through execution. The Gulag camps were distinctly different also from Nazi concentration camps, in that they were not primarily places of extermination. Their primary purposes were economic and political rather than genocidal.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)14:43
No.7452253

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)14:43 No.7452253

>>7452188
Many Jews inside and outside of Israel have criticized the instrumentation and commercial exploitation of the Holocaust.
This is a completely different field; you can condemn that without denying the holocaust at all, on the contrary, you can criticize these people BECAUSE it really happened.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)14:43
No.7452255

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)14:43 No.7452255

Replies: >>7452367 >>7452505

File: 1353267817480.jpg-(27 KB, 400x500, concentration%20camp%20wo(...).jpg)

So are all those people who gave eyewitness testimonies were part of this conspiracy? They all got together after they were freed and conspired to create an elaborate ruse? Pretty impressive how they were able to all have the same idea like that.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)14:44
No.7452280

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)14:44 No.7452280

Replies: >>7452320 >>7452376 >>7453733

File: 1353267858839.jpg-(180 KB, 800x600, 1339106893996.jpg)

>>7451819
>>7452083
The gulags weren't extermination camps. There was no genocide taking place there.

I think you just put your foot in your mouth. By drawing the comparison you are tacitly admitting the German internment camps were also for detainment, not extermination.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)14:45
No.7452320

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)14:45 No.7452320

Replies: >>7452419

>>7452280

>only one guy in the photo
>this implies he dug it himself! impossible!
>just ignore the bodies
>this is why the holocaust never happened

MY SIDES

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)14:47
No.7452367

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)14:47 No.7452367

Replies: >>7452446

>>7452255
What about these ones?

http://youtu.be/Ux4n8E-PUIU

Besides, if the "sonderkommandos" (all three surviving ones by the way, just happen to be brothers) were the only ones who saw the actual extermination process, why would anyone else claim t have seen the gassing? I thought it was a secret.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)14:48
No.7452376

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)14:48 No.7452376

Replies: >>7452420

>>7452280
>lets ignore the reports written by the Einsatzgruppen in the field and sent to and archived by the RSHA and pretend there is no hard evidence at all

As to your post: the Germans killed Jews they did not need for labor. the others were to be exterminated through work under inhuman conditions.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)14:49
No.7452419

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)14:49 No.7452419

>>7452320
You realize that's not a picture of a German soldier or dead jews right?

Doesn't that gun look a little modern to you?

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)14:49
No.7452420

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)14:49 No.7452420

Replies: >>7452463 >>7454204

File: 1353268196920.jpg-(24 KB, 450x592, 135273897132.jpg)

>>7452376

>THE NAZIS GASSED AND BURNED THE JEWS!!!!
>190+ post later
>WELL, THE NAZIS WORKED THE JEWS TO DEATH

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)14:50
No.7452446

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)14:50 No.7452446

>>7452367
It was kept a secret, but the camps were not completely disconnected from the outside world and of course the people inside would learn about what happens relatively quickly.
They see trains full of people arriving and a hand full out of hundreds or thousands being added to the workforce while the rest gets a tour to the "morgue" that takes forever.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)14:51
No.7452463

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)14:51 No.7452463

>>7452420
Not all Jews were killed with the same method.
The only people who ever claimed that were Holocaust deniers.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)14:51
No.7452476

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)14:51 No.7452476

Replies: >>7452549

File: 1353268315476.png-(680 KB, 1445x1000, 1322467430906.png)

The Nazis starved and infected Jews with typhus before gassing them to hide their hideous crimes.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)14:52
No.7452505

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)14:52 No.7452505

Replies: >>7452707

File: 1353268365115.jpg-(182 KB, 504x315, 1307836685638.jpg)

>>7452255
How many of them claim to have witnessed gas chambers in operation?

>Pretty impressive how they were able to all have the same idea like that.

Yeah, miraculous. It's almost like there were newspapers in those days which published allied propaganda. But no, it could only be that everyone independently came to the same conclusion without reading or hearing about these war crimes accusations second hand.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)14:54
No.7452549

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)14:54 No.7452549

Replies: >>7452595 >>7452654

>>7452476
Actually typhus only killed a very small number of Jews.
That's obvious to anyone with half a brain, since the height of the extermination was reached before the strategic bombing campaign really took off.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)14:56
No.7452595

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)14:56 No.7452595

Replies: >>7452644 >>7452654

File: 1353268596486.gif-(24 KB, 1026x704, deaths-by-day.gif)

>>7452549
Pictured is a day by day record of Auschwitz deaths. The peaks coincide with known Typhus epidemics.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)14:58
No.7452644

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)14:58 No.7452644

Replies: >>7452674

>>7452595
>death certificates
Not issued for people who were killed on arrival, only for prisoners who were registered.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)14:58
No.7452654

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)14:58 No.7452654

Replies: >>7452701

File: 1353268710094.jpg-(9 KB, 400x262, BelsenDeaths.jpg)

>>7452549
>>7452595
According to Ben Shephard, After Daybreak: the Liberation of Bergen-Belsen, 1945 (2005) although 18,000 inmates died in Belsen before liberation by the British on April 15, 1945, as many as 14,000 inmates died after liberation over several months in spite of the general abundance of food and medical care and DDT. Did the internees who died before liberation look any worse than those who died afterward? Of course, not—but, there simply was no interest in photographing and publicizing the photos of those who died under British care.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)14:59
No.7452674

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)14:59 No.7452674

Replies: >>7452760 >>7452876

File: 1353268764790.png-(13 KB, 252x360, Capture.png)

>>7452644
Having both the birth and death dates, we can calculate the age at death. The following is a break-down of the records by age. This is of interest, as Jews claim that the old, young, and anyone unfit for work, were immediately gassed on arrival at Auschwitz (and, of course, Jews claim, no record was kept of these killings, while careful records were kept of all other deaths). Clearly, this was not the case. It is particularly unlikely, that the three ladies over 90 years old, were fit for any sort of work.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)15:00
No.7452701

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)15:00 No.7452701

Replies: >>7452754

>>7452654
>as many as 14,000 inmates died after liberation over several months
Source on that?
Also, it only shows in what a poor conditions the Nazis left these people.
They were not criminals but political or ethnic prisoners who never committed any real crimes and yet were arrested.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)15:00
No.7452707

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)15:00 No.7452707

Replies: >>7452762 >>7453093

>>7452505

Oh, so you're saying the Allies made up these claims before they had ANY evidence, then all the prisoners decided to play along after they were freed because I guess they liked the attention, then the major world governments went to work fabricating evidence of their own lies which the prisoners then ratified? Yes, very plausible. Totally makes sense. I can see why countries emerging from a war they just won would feel a need to use huge amounts of resources on the greatest hoax ever conceived simply for propaganda purposes against an enemy they'd already defeated.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)15:02
No.7452754

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)15:02 No.7452754

Replies: >>7452889

>>7452701

>blaming Nazis for Allied bombing

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)15:03
No.7452760

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)15:03 No.7452760

>>7452674

>a small number of old people were apparently useful
>this is somehow undeniable proof of Jew lies

Maybe they were skilled at a craft or cooking or something. Not all work is grueling physical labor.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)15:03
No.7452762

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)15:03 No.7452762

Replies: >>7452943

>>7452707
see
>>7449904

Ignore the "de-nazification" programs to demoralize the postwar German citizenry and all the psychwarfare experts who visited the camps by the way.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)15:07
No.7452876

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)15:07 No.7452876

>>7452674
Has probably something to do with this and other stuff.
http://www.holocaust.cz/en/history/events/family_camp

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)15:07
No.7452877

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)15:07 No.7452877

Replies: >>7452972

>>7446206
>No, I read that somewhere, but I couldn't find it now.
aahahahaha
They don't pay you enough.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)15:08
No.7452889

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)15:08 No.7452889

>>7452754
Are you saying the death rate in the camps was the same as across the German population?
I hope not, because that would be complete bullshit.

Anonymous
11/18/12(Sun)15:08
No.7452897

Anonymous 11/18/12(Sun)15:08 No.7452897

Can somebody tell me what the "six million Jews" thing in the New York Times records means?