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Oh boy here we go

Why would you treat criminals like this? Prison should be a hellhole, it is there to punish people for their wrongs.

Sports centre!

So prisoners don't suffer the wind or rain :D

>>720275
Its not supposed to be a punishment, its there to rehabilitate criminals so they can reenter society without causing more crime.

I'm okay with this.

>>720254
cant wait for the first murder in that pool

Library for reading Atlas Shrugged

>>720287
Why would we want to rehabilitate them? They transgressed against society, prison should be so horrible people will do anything to avoid going back.

>>720297
>for reading Atlas Shrugged

Won't happen, too cruel and unusual.

>Go to Spain
>to whatever the fuck you want for as long as you can
>End up in a prison like this


If my life ever gets too much for me this is certainly something to consider

Meanwhile, 20% of the Spanish labour force is unemployed. I'm sure they're glad their government spent their tax money on providing a conformable, cozy home for murderers instead of helping them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4beUC3-ckw

>>720304
He's got a point.

The only real way to teach or change people is to provide a form of negative reinforcement for doing bad things and rewarding for doing good things.
Since these people did bad things they should be punished, not given a free hotel paid for with precious taxpayer money.

>mfw prisons like these actually work

sheeeeeiit, here in adams county we only got a gym, cable and internet

>>720324

What do I have to get into this place?

Countries with nicer prisons have lower crime. Maybe some people are happy to pay a price in terms of more crime and more expense in locking them up, in order to know that those who commit crimes are tortured for their tenure in prison. I am not.

>>720358
Rape an attractive Spainard

>>720328
only works with petty crime, not psychologically motivated crime

>>720363
Wouldn't the money be better spent helping homeless people who never commited crime? Surely money spent on them is worth more than money spent on criminals.

The US could seriously learn something from this. It's no coincidence that the people who serve time in Europe come back to society alot better.

HAHA, this is what your money is going on Germany and France.

And you wanted Britain to give our tax money to bail out this...

And Spain wonders why they are close to default.

There are private prisons like this in the US, they operate on a profit too. When locked up you don't care about 1$ a hr labor when you have all your needs met better than outside the prison.

This is the 'company town' ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Company_town ) sort of market socialism that's helping society reform itself. You can knock it for being socialism all you want but it's better than the previous system.

>>720380
If we provide a standard of lving better than the sort they have on the outside there is no incentive for the offender to avoid prison. If it is a terrible place the criminal will be heavily motivated to fall in line

Those are the kind of prisons rich people go to in the united states.

>>720377

I'd rather spend some more money to have fewer criminals. Which would cost less overall, since you don't have to pay as much back for the damage to society from the initial crime, and you don't have to incarcerate as many people.

These criminals don't receive this money in hand, but we all benefit from it being spent, including them.

>>720380
These are not unlike most federal prisons, my sisters prison(she got locked up for being part of a drug conspiracy) was nicer than my high school in terms of quality of facilities. I went to a brand new technical highschool too just as an idea, here prison is really nice.

She's since reformed and is now an instructor for 40 women, completely changed. She gets out next march, so proud of her.

>>720400

But the figures don't suggest this. America, where prisons really are shitholes, has the highest incarceration rate on the planet. Some of this is due to retarded war on drugs laws, sure. But mostly it's because people commit crimes, and they are released and they do it again, and they are released and they do it again.

This doesn't happen in countries where the prisons are not pressure cookers full of psychopaths, run as labor camps for profit, and patrolled by mercenaries.

Maybe it's hard to understand why treating people like shit makes them treat other people like shit. Oh no wait, it isn't hard at all.

>>720392

Are you kidding me? Those places pretty ran themselves out because they used their own currency. It pretty much made workers slaves to them.

>>720364
noo.... not the lap of luxury!!!

>>720438
No these prisons are a test case that voluntary market socialism does work.

Inside these prisons these inmates are being shown that if they voluntarily act reasonable then society will reward them. No form of government, even limited governments are fair, they are all coercive but that shouldn't be the point.

The best governments are those that maximize political/economic freedom and equality.

These institutions are clearly institutions doing a better job at it than the previous and should be the test case for the way the rest of society is structured.

At least that's how I feel about it, I'm sure this will upset you but it's how I believe.

BRB MURDERING SOMEONE IN SPAIN FOR FREE RENT

>>720528
believe society should be structured*.

>>720275

I rather have prisoners help them rehabilitate themselves by any means necessary. Other wise, you rather prefer prisoners form up prison gangs and getting into the same shit they did on the streets in prison, and becoming better criminals.

>>>720433
>But mostly it's because people commit crimes, and they are released and they do it again, and they are released and they do it again.

The real question is why?

>>720275
The point of prisons is to protect society, not punishment. Countries with prisons like this and Norway also have a lower crime rate than the US.

>inb4 niggers

>>720592
Maybe if we let the niggers play WOW and frolic in the water all day they wouldn't be out stealing and murdering. Oh wait they can't figure out how to use computers and they can't swim.

I'm thinking of moving to a European country and committing a crime so that I can live in a resort if I'm unable to find a job after I graduate from college.

>>720592
>not punishment
WHY NOT?

FOLLOW THE RULES OR YOU GET PUNISHED

IF THERE IS NO THREAT OF PUNISHMENT THERE IS ANARCHY

>>720592
You protect society by punishing criminals. It's the same reason the death penalty is common sense

>>720592
You forgot that correlation doesn't equal causation as well. Based on this "protection from society," do we even need fines for traffic violations?

Have there been cases where people actually commit petty crime to get into facilities such as had and practically get taken care of for the whole duration of their sentence?

>>720622
>implying fines work

>>720605

>Oh wait they can't figure out how to use computers

I don't where you're from, but around here, niggas know technology.

>>720576

There could be arguments about why exactly.

But we can know that prisons that treat them like people have lower recidivism than prisons that treat them like animals.

I would say that people will treat others, when they have the freedom to choose how to treat them, or the power to treat them as they will, how they have been treated by whatever authority existed in their lives up to then, and they will react to situations in the way that has best served them in their lives up to then. Prisons treat prisoners like they are nothing, not worth basic human dignity, so they treat civilians like that when they get out. And when you are challenged in prison, you have to respond with unreasonable levels of violence, or you will be a target from then on, and so when you get out you continue this behavior.

>>720659
Niggas love smartphones- they're really skilled with them too. I've never seen anyone but Korean schoolgirls type so fast with their thumbs. But as far as computers go, there are very few competent blacks.

>>720612

Only if it reduced murder rates. If it had no effect on murder rates, it would be cold-blooded to inflict it. And if it was correlated with increased murder rates, it would be absurd to continue it.

Pool being closed due to aids is probably more likely here than anywhere in this history of memes.