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Just releasing more hot air. He never acts on any issue.

(A veto isn't an action it's choosing not to act)

Is there an election coming up?

What people of all political stripes have failed to realize is that you don't make lasting victories by electing a candidate or passing legislation. You make them by moving the debate to where both sides are roughly in line with your ideals.

>>718683

No

I didn't think there were enough christians left to bother fishing for votes.

>>718689
so in that sense this is a win for the right

was this the same David Cameron that said Christians should learn to be more tolerant and welcoming after children's aid refused to let a christian couple have foster Children because they were afraid their Christian beliefs on gays would twist the children.

This man don't speak the truth, he says exactly what his audience wants to hear.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1364411/David-Cameron-Foster-ban-ruling-right-anti-gay-Chris
tian-couple.html

PLAY BALL WITH MERKEL'S PLAN TO TAKE OVER THE CONTINENT YOU SILLY BRITCUNT

UR FUCKING UP THE CURRENCY WITH YOUR DRAMATICS

If it leads to us taking less muslim dick I don't see too much of an issue with it.

>>718700
>I am not qualified to speak on this subject

>>718696
>That sentence

Blair was far worse in his talks about Christianity.

This is the only thing a country can do to defend against it's culture being taken over.

If a country is mostly atheist it will sit back and let Muslims take over till their largest religion is Islam.

Has a point, we are a Christian country.

The only people brave enough to voice thier religious beliefs in this country though are Muslims.

I didn't even know Cameron was a Christian until now, no one wants to talk about religion anymore, and considering its still a huge part of society ... that seems rather counter-intuitive in terms of cultural harmony, no?

I love Cameron for the fact he says shit like this, it really must rustle the jimmies on the lib dems and extremist groups. Even if he doesn't act on anything half the time it is hilarious to watch accusations of racism on forums and video comments.

Keep up the trolling Dave.

>>718676
Queen of England is the head of the church

England is a christian country

>>718759

And Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland

Cameron seems more and more badass.

NO CATHOLICS THOUGH!

An old WW2 sailor once said.

"There are no athiests when your ship is under attack"

>MFW every comment I come across in which someone mentions they are christian has been downvoted

Stay petty athiests.

I think the face that he says "live and let live" had too often become "do what you please" really encapsulates the failures of multiculturalist theories. Sure it's nice to have a few new folks over, but when the expectation is for you to kowtow to people who are supposedly your equals, things have gotten out of hand.

I don't think Cameron has done a very good job overall, but this one gesture really speaks to me.

>>718692

When asked what religion they were. 72% of people said Christian.

How many of those 72% were serious is anyones guess though.

Can you start your own religion?

>>718800

Yes, you need 10,000 followers for it to be officially classes as a religion and receive tax exception.

Jedi should have become a religion but no one has come forward to officially set it up.

>>718785

> Talk about how this is good for non religious people because it gives a culture to grab onto so we don't get swept away in a tide of immigrants
> Down voted

Fucking liberals man.

Big deal. So he said something to appeal to Christian voters. He won't pass any laws to strengthen Christianity. He won't do anything to counter multiculturalism. If he's going to be a decent prime minister he should start acting and stop talking.

Cameron always goes for the right wing views that appeals to the ignorant masses that live in England. His actual policies are detrimental to the vast majority of the country, so he balances it out by peddling fear, and typical Daily Mail views.

Like when he said he would remove the benefits of the rioters, and used it as an opportunity to try remove the Human Rights Act.

>>718823

> Telling EU and Muslims to fuck off
> detrimental to the vast majority of the country,

>Is he being an idiot again or just doing what he can to stem the tide of muslims?

the only way to stem the tide of muslims is to lose religious freedom.

>you anglican nao!
>butbut i'm catholic!!!
>butbut i'm protestant!!!
>butbut i'm orthodox!!!
>butbut i'm from the western branch of american reform presbylutheranism

>>718807


The religion of political incorrectness.
Pledge your life to the cause of spreading jokes of a racial humour at least once a day.
If you don't, well, ok, it's not like we are going to cut your head off.
And if they try to shut us down we can shout them down as being racistswantstokill6millionpeopleoffaith

>>718823

> "Elitist babble"

Maybe I read the Daily Mail because i'm sick of trying to be brainwashed into having my beliefs be lockstep with that of Labour's, as every other paper except the Telegraph wants of me. A lot of good you fucking liberals have done for this country...

>>718840

If you're a Christian in Britain you're already going to be Church of England.

>>718832

You do know he told the EU to fuck off because they wanted to further regulate the banks? The regeneration of many cities in the UK has been funded by EU money through the EDA. The trade opportunities that the EU represent have helped the economy of the UK, more than it has damaged it. Now we are isolated, purely because Cameron and Osborne wanted to protect The City of London. They haven't even tried to spin it, that is what they have said. The same City of London that caused the problems, and economic crisis.

Muslims are not a threat to the way of life in this country, even if the Daily Mail, and The Sun have brainwashed you to believe otherwise. Sorry.

>>718840
How about shutting down immigration from their countries, sending them back if they commit a crime and then rigidly policing their communities?

Let me pose a question.

What newspaper is acceptable from the denizens of /pol/?

>>718785

This is why I hate modern atheism.

>You may call me an agnostic, but I do not share the crusading spirit of the professional atheist whose fervor is mostly due to a painful act of liberation from the fetters of religious indoctrination received in youth. I prefer an attitude of humility corresponding to the weakness of our intellectual understanding of nature and of our own being.
>Albert Einstein

It's embarrassing that more and more dummies are claiming to represent science or logic in the name of 'atheism' - when all they are is anti-religion and its fucking obvious.

>>718855

The Independent is usually quite good if you want to steer clear of political bias (as the name suggests) but they are INCREDIBLY liberal, sometimes to the point of frustration. I've found the Herald to be a pretty decent all rounder, they have won alot of awards recently for thier journalism as well.

>>718864

Lol, Cameron defended the banks because we are a banking nation. We make money through banking and do the most banking in the entire world.

The EU regulations would have hurt our banks.

> Muslims are not a threat to the way of life in this country

Tell me that when we're a majority brown nation in 2050

>In British Attitudes Survey in 2010, 43% were Christian and 51% no religion

That makes the rest of the religions, that the Daily Mail have convinced many idiots are a threat, make up about 4 percent of the rest of the country. But anything to justify voting for, and backing this fascist idiot.

He is trying to appeal to the strong christian vote. Labour have lost significant votes from christian communities due to Labours obvious support of Islamification. Labour really only appeals to uneducated working class northerners, immigrants and trade union lefties. Gays in UK vote Lib dems.

>>718858

god save the queen-pope

>>718882
Your banks will be your economic doom one day.

>>718890
>fascist idiot

Who?

>>718882

The banks are what caused the current economic crisis, and it wasn't because they were borrowing money to nations. Don't say its a banking nation when its not, they pay next to no tax, and neither do a lot of companies in the UK thanks to this government. The banks do not support the UK in anyway.

>>718855

Don't read the daily mail dude, they don't know what side they're on.

Sometimes they post articles about how immigrants cause everything, then they post an article about how the EDL, the only people standing up to immigrants, are Nazis.

>>718875
>How about shutting down immigration from their countries, sending them back if they commit a crime and then rigidly policing their communities?

rigidly policing their communities has a bad aftertaste. when you can get away with doing it to them, why not expand it some moar? where's the downturn?

>>718895

>Gays in UK vote Lib dems.

I don't think anyone votes Lib Dem anymore.

>>718905

>nevergofullretard.png

>>718905

> The banks do not support the UK in anyway.
> 10% of GDP is banking

> The banks are what caused the current economic crisis

Just not our banks

> they pay next to no tax, and neither do a lot of companies in the UK thanks to this government.

That's a good thing, people seem to forget that the idea of the UK was originally that it was a free market like the US.

>>718905

They support the UK, but they are not loyal to it.

I think thats why Cam was wrong to protect them so much. HSBC moved to China, whats to stop others doing the same? Nothing.

>>718932

> HSBC moved to China

Really? People are this stupid?

You realise HSBC means Hong Kong Shanghai Banking corporation right?

>>718944

Obviously.

I meant they moved operations out of the UK.

Didn't think that was hard to understand.

>>718944
HSBC MADE ITS WILD PROFITS BY BEING THE PREMIER HK BANK, ACTING AS GATEWAY TO MONETARY FLOWS FOR TRADE IN AND OUT OF ASIA

HK WAS THE BRITISH OWNED BANKING CHOKE POINT OF ASIA FOR OVER A CENTURY

> OWS fags blaming the banks because their lib arts degree can't get them a job

Why do you want to join the EU so much and suck Jewish cock? They're just going to put measures in place because they're jelly of our banking.

Damn immigrants everywhere.

Fuck all you guys, I am voting Tory and BNP from now on.

>>718981

Just Tory, any vote that isn't for Tory is a vote for labour.

>>718944

People who back the banks, and this government aren't very smart to begin with.

>>718981
Vote tory? LOLWUT

Immigration has gone up since David Cameron got into power. Vote BNP or UKIP

Christians in UK 72%

then it was athiests at 16%

muslims 3% lol.

hindus 1%

yeah muslims are sure running over the uk.

>>718991

See

>>718984

Immigration has gone up for two reasons, one the EU control our borders, two we don't have a Tory government. We have a Tory government with a lib dem boat anchor round their necks.

>>718944

Really? People are this stupid?

You realise that HSBC was run in british interests for over a century, and that Hong Kong was owned by Britian until 1997?

You are the cancer that is killing /banking/

>>718984
BNP cant get anything done?
How is it a vote for BNP is a vote for labour?

Sorry but I am young and have only voted once, pretty much media/schooling had me thinking labour was good for our country and Tory were racists.

>>718984

Why would anyone vote Labour over the Tories? I mean Labour are backed by the unions, and the Tories are backed by the banks, and patriots like Philip Green. Why would anyone vote for Labour who are backed by organisations that represent the vast majority of the country? Vote Tory, they're backed by the small, financial elite.

God, English people are so dumb.

>>719005

It's funny how people who generally try to defend the banks, do it because they refuse to believe that this government would be so brazen in the shocking measures that they take. Frightening, I can't wait to leave England.

Cameron has been acting very strange recently.

>>719007

Few people vote for labour directly but don't realise that a vote for any other party but Tory is an indirect vote for labour.

>>719006

Because you are wasting your vote on small parties instead of combining it with everyones vote for Tory so they can beat Labour by a majority.

>>719021

Yeah when was the last time we had a Prime Minister that helped the country like he's doing?

UK is becoming more nationalist because of constant pressure from the EU and Immigrants. He want's to keep the votes so adapts.

>>718676

Sarkozy did it first.

>>719021

He has been thrown off recently by the euro crisis mostly, those hours spent in the chamber with the rest of the EU leaders and no support (you aren't even allowed to have an aide in with you) was probably one of the toughest points of his career.

The fallout when he got home was also probably quite disheartening.

>>719038

I thought France was doing everything possible to remove it's cultural identity not defend it.

>>719041

> The fallout when he got home was also probably quite disheartening.

Does he understand that pretty much everyone in the UK agrees with his position.

I wouldn't want him to believe the Lib Dems whispering in his ear that he did bad.

>>719035

Fuck off back to the Daily Mail comments section, fascist.

I remember once in school we were discussing politics and teacher asked what party we thought we would vote for. People were for the most part saying Labour with a few lib-dems inbetween.
Then it came to me and I said Tory. Silence afterwords with other kids staring at me. lol no friends after that.

>>719051

> Be Nationalist
> Get called Fascist and Racist.

Typical liberal response.

Remember when being proud of your culture and country wasn't called bad things?

>>719055

Was the class filled with poor people?

>>719050

There are plenty of people who disagree with his position, more so if the EU actually manages to pull itself out of the mess and be stronger for it. I think mostly, the people who agree with him are either blind nationalists (fair enough, but at least admit it) or are gambling that the EU is going to get significantly weaker and/or collapse (so they want to stay out of it, again fair comment)

If that dosen't happen however, his choice will evolve into being a mistake in the eyes of history. Globalization is the future, and many argue that a fiscal union EU is also the future.

Anyway, this is off topic so I'll leave it at that.

>>719071

> Globalization is the future

Ian Hislop described the EU fiasco on have I got news for you fantastically.

"EU politicians have been claiming Britain will be left on the sidelines! That's a horrible thought, EU going down the plug hole and we're left on the sidelines".

>>719021

Cameron is stuck in a rut because his associations with Murdoch really damaged him over the summer. Especially after he said "I have no problems with Andy Coulson as my director of communications, I believe he didn't do anything" and look how that turned out.

The public seem to have a lack of trust in what he is doing so he is trying everything to get support, especially with Murdoch revelations flying out weekly from the Leveson Inquiry. Cameron's so associated with Murdoch that anything that happens there is going to hit him and his cabinet hard. So he's doing this to try build support in the media while he can afford to and before the papers all become extremely toxic to politicians as the inquiry goes on. (Can't rely on TV to give you a good word due to OFCOM rules)

>>719071

>globalisation

Just wait until that oil runs out

>>719088
>Implying the UK isn't going down the plughole anyway

There were legit arguments for veto'ing the treaty proposed, but those weren't the arguments used. Instead it was "herpa derp derp BRITAIN IS BEST derp derp derp". David Cameron appears more the blundering buffoon the more I see of him.

>>719071

Even if Europe regains control and becomes rich what is wrong with staying out of it?

The problem with the EU is it's not compatible with our way of life, continental countries have had constantly changing borders and their cultures are pretty much all the same.
We have a defined border and have a vastly different culture to Europeans. In the past we never bothered with Europe and instead built out colonial empire.

Mainly I'm against the EU for their desire to remove sovereignty from nations and put power in unelected leaders.

>>719070
Meh kind of.
I would say it was half middle class half poor.
No one was rich, they all went to a better school. Also no immigrants in the school either.

>>719099

>Implying the UK isn't going down the plughole anyway
>implying its not going down because it's being dragged by the EU

Can't wait to return to puritan Britian, with our glorious leader zombie Oliver Cromwell!

>put power in unelected leaders

all of our shitty leaders were elected by us.

People seem to have this strange view that we need the EU more than they need us.
They say we do most of a trading with the EU so need to stay within it.

In actual fact we trade more with all the countries we've spent hundreds of years building economic ties with. America, Australia, India, East Asian countries.

We don't need the EU for trade, but they need us for our money, nuclear deterrent, army and strong alliance with the US.

>>718676

Switzerland and the United Kingdom should form some kind of Christian heritage union

>>719130

Is Switzerland a Christian nation?
I thought it was mainly an atheist nation.

Globalisation is OK as long as it includes only the culturally compatible western world, and is globalisation, not centralisation (no EU, yes to free movement of people and capital).
Third world mozlems and niggers should not be allowed in, at least until they stop being mozlems and niggers.

>>719117

There were a bunch of Germans in a palace already telling us what to do well before the EU

>>719136
>>719136

You're using the term globalization as if it were a choice. It isn't.

Getting involved in European affairs was the worst idea ever.

We should have just chilled and remained neutral in WW2 like Switzerland. Hitler wasn't going to attack us, he respected our imperialism. But we just HAD to defend Poland didn't we?

We could have been chilling right now with our Empire intact and the Glorious German Reich controlling the world with us.

>>719133
http://www.bfs.admin.ch/bfs/portal/en/index/themen/01/05/blank/key/religionen.html

>>719110
>Implying the EU caused the housing bubble in the UK
>Implying the EU was responsible for both private and public over-spending in the UK
>Implying the EU was responsible for the UK banking crisis

>>719133

No. More than 90% Christian

>>719159
>>719161

No wonder all the Muslims stay out.

>>719160

I'm sure the millions paid to the EU every day instead of fixing those issues isn't a problem.

A strong christian revival is the best chance the West has to save itself from multiculturalism. I say this as an atheist.

>>719199
>I say this as an idiot.
Fixed.

>>719203
butthurt atheist detected.
Even I agree with him and I am a atheist.

>>719147

Globalisation with muslims / niggers is a choice.

>>719214
Get real, faggot, this is a false dichotomy, you ignore the alternative of a modern secular and free society.
I rather have 10% niggers and civil liberties than hardcore Christians in power who outlaw porn and wearing skirts that end above the knee, but that's not the choice we face. A free society can limit immigration just fine and the people start to learn why that's preferable, now that the results of the multicultural dogma become apparent.

>>719088

Watch last nights one. There was more gold though there was a bit more hammering of Cameron for being belligerent. Though the Channel 4 re-inactment of when Nick Clegg found out was gold (God I love C4 news. They just realized the world has just gone absurd and are just rolling with it.)

Also drink every time they say "allegedly" if you are watching tonights Have I Got Even More News For You. Guaranteed alcohol poisoning

He's supporting Christianity because it supports multiculturalism

Mr Cameron also said it was "easier for people to believe and practise other faiths when Britain has confidence in its Christian identity".

"Many people tell me it is much easier to be Jewish or Muslim here in Britain than it is in a secular country like France," he said.

"Why? Because the tolerance that Christianity demands of our society provides greater space for other religious faiths too.

"And because many of the values of a Christian country are shared by people of all faiths and indeed by people of no faith at all."

>>719284
The problem is that "Christian values" contain a whole lot of oppressive bullshit and all of them are based on an old book that can be read in a myriad of ways and used to justify everything.

You can have all these values without the ridiculous belief.
Christianity has no place in politics. It's inherently irrational.

>>719267

Your choice are as follows

Christianity that is so lax that it's basically Secularism that's called Christianity

Radical Islam


Cameron chose the first.

>>719284

It's easier to practise a religion in Britain than France because Britain hasn't banned all public displays of religion.

It's this thing we call freedom.

>>719251
So is suicide.

Christianity at its heart is an apolitical religion.

Islam at its heart is a political religion.

Guess which one is more compatible with secularism?

>>719300

You are an idiot. Clearly you have never studied religion or history.

>>719316
Not really. You can have both religions acting both ways. Just visit some rural regions in middle Europe, you'll be under a reign of fundamentalist Christian would-be popes that try to run their town the good ole traditional way, beat women and hide inter-marital rape.

I believe that Cameron is not being an idiot...this time. Secularism has basically caused a gap that Christianity used to fill, and Islam is planning to fill. Accepting Christianity in the public sphere is imperative to maintaining European culture in this time of mass immigration, though a bit of national pride helps as well.

>>719316

>>719345
>Just visit some rural regions in middle Europe
You mean like the Czech republic, which is 70% atheist? A lot of formerly communist countries have seen a massive detoriation of Christianity during the cold war, with Poland and Lithuania being notable exceptions.

>>719353
>>719353

No, I mean countries like Austria, Switzerland and Germany. I've lived in all three countries for a while - christian nutsacks are everywhere. Mostly concerning is that most of these whackjobs are in rather high political positions.

>>719351
This is Christianity:
Catholocism is the grumpy old dad who keeps telling his kids (Protestants) to get their shit straight and his wife (Orthodox) to get back to the kitchen.
Church of England is the guy who hardly takes anything seriously and is pretty easy going.
Evangelism is the extremely cheerful little girl who wants to talk to everyone.
Westboro Baptist church is the backwards, inbred cousin the rest of the family is ashamed of.

>>719316
> more compatible
less incompatible

>>719345
I am from Eastern Europe, and you are retarded, basing all you say on primitive accusations.
>>719345
That's because both Poland and Lithuania both shared the same culture during their dissolution in 1795, and so the Catholic Church became the main source of disobedience towards occupying powers. This was used as a pattern during commie days after WWII, and it worked.

> Using a Middle eastern religion to defend against another Middle eastern religion.

If we want to defend European culture shouldn't we convert to Druidism?

Cameron meets the authors of the KJB!?
Seriously, wasn't the whole idea of the printing press and reformation in England to get rid of these parasites?
FAIL!

>>719337
Clearly you live in an ivory tower and completely ignore what religious people outside of academics think and believe.

>>719364
>trying to personify denominations
in what way are wbc truth claims any less valid than the other denominations truth claims?

>>719364
Here in the Netherlands with have the Christen union (stupid party) these guys want to ban freedom of speech.
if someone wants to deny the holocaust, let them.
freaking nut jobs.

I also know the son of one of their parties highest guys.
I heard that guy talking with his gf about a pregnancy test so I lolled when he didn't listen to daddy to wait before marriage.
fucking non catholics.

>>719390
Because WBC can't into bible study while the other denominations at least try to interpret the scripture.

For example, I'm not even a christian and I can already tell that "God hates fags" is nonsense. In Christianity (after the NT), the doctrine basically became "hate the sin, love the sinners" so "God hates faggotry" would be more accurate.

>>719394
Fellow Dutchman here.
Isn't holocaust denial already banned in Germany?

I do agree with you on freedom of speech though. Freedom of speech is exactly there to protect what other people DON'T want to hear, and as long as you back up what you say with logical reasoning or evidence and remain polite, there shouldn't be a reason why you can't say whatever you want.

>>719402
Holocaust denial is banned in Germany.

>>719402
>>719403
Try to search stormfront.org on google.de.
I don't agree with sf but that is never a reason to deny freedom of speech.

>>719403
Fucking nonsense. I know the holocaust is sensitive in Germany, but if people have legitimate reasons to doubt it, one should be able to discuss it. Whatever we wish to say or think is no affair of the state, and only a totalitarian regime would dream of doing it.

Then again, democracy is arguably the one of the most totalitarian political systems around.

>>719383
Yes. Considering the British Isles were Celtic and Norse, we should pretty much just go back to that.

>>719403
Germany is a also a fortified democracy.
It's not truly free in any sense.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streitbare_Demokratie

>>719410
This. HAIL WOTAN.

>>719410
That ship has sailed the very moment the British set off to fuck up other countries on the other side of the world.