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Explain to me why the age of consent shouldn't be 7 (the true age when someone can understand sexuality if they aren't 'protected' from that knowledge in typical american fashion).

I'm all ears, moralfags.
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because I'll fucking kill you if you touch my daughter.

It's for your own protection really.
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when you have children you will understand OP......and if you ever do...may god have mercy on them
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This is just another reason why we need to have a revolution.

Posts like this?

PURGE. GULAG. RINSE. REPEAT.
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>>6094516
Would it be okay with you if I cuddled her gently and stroked her hair? Where is the line drawn?
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>>6094533
The line is drawn when you're six feet under, sicko
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You cannot understand sexuality if you are not even sexual. Prepubescent 7 year old girls thus cannot understand it.

Now if you asked why AoC should not be 13, that would be a better question..
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>>6094533
When its not not your kids or boner.
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sage shitposting
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>>6094517
this

yeah OP, have your own daughter an molest her
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>>6094517
>implying if OP had children he wouldn't just rape them
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>>6094548
I am offended.

>>6094553
But children masturbate. The only reason they aren't overtly sexual is because we shield them completely from anything involving sex to the point where they are educated by the TV and pop music.

>>6094559
>i-it's shitposting b-because I don't like it

Lol
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>>6094600

No. They don't understand it. Nor do they have the need for it that Teenagers do. I started masturbating in 5th grade.I was 11. But i was in school a year early so i should be twelve.

OP Has made it clear he doesn't care about any little girl in his life. Infact im going to go all Jesse Slaughter on this sick fuck and call the"Cyber Police"
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Children should only play with kids no more than 2 years older. Adults should not be allowed to have sex with minors until they are 21.
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OP now on FBI watchlist
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Explain to me why the age of consent should be 7.
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>>6094516
>mfw a ped would be more willing (and probably more adept) at killing than you would
>mfw you would get your ass handed to you
>mfw you wouldn't mind someone fucking your underage kid if you weren't brainwashed
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>>6094600
>But children masturbate. The only reason they aren't overtly sexual is because we shield them completely from anything involving sex to the point where they are educated by the TV and pop music.

False conclusion fallacy.
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>>6094670

I thought your kind had left 4chan by now
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>>6094600

Just because they masturbate does not mean they are sexual, as in feeling sexual attraction towards the opposite sex. That starts during puberty.
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>>6094670
>>mfw you wouldn't mind someone fucking your underage kid if you weren't brainwashed
Yeah that's why Arabs went around clubbing each other in the head back in the 800s when other men fucked their daughters
>mfw
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Nothing to do with morals. It is legally impracticable to provide for consent under the age of majority.
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>>6094665

Because it is fucking wrong. Its sick. Even in the olden days when women were having children at 13 and 14. That i can understand. Lots of other people can too because in some places the Age of Consent is 14. I live in MA and over here its 16. Thats fine but at 7 your body isn't ready for it. Both mentally and phyically.
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>>6094670

Its natural instinct to want to protect your children, if you werent a degenerate psychopath and were capable of having a family then maybe you would understand.
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>>6094458 (OP)
It was in Delaware a little over hundred years ago. Of course, people back then had just finally abolished slavery, women still couldn't vote, and shooting injuns was still the national sport.
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>>6094720
for the sake of argument

why is your implication that everyone will immediately start having sex with 7 year olds?
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>>6094670


>mfw a ped would be more willing (and probably more adept) at killing than you would
>mfw you would get your ass handed to you

Tell that to the US Federal Prison System.

Pedophiles are, in general, the weakest and most easily raped/killed demographic of prisoners.

Not to mention the fact that pedos are betas to the extreme.

Good riddance.
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>7

yeesh, that's pretty young. Wait until they hit puberty, at least.
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>>6094741

I never implied that
>inb4 implied.
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PIDF pls go
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>>6094630
>Infact im going to go all Jesse Slaughter on this sick fuck and call the"Cyber Police"

Crying to the police because someone holds a certain political viewpoint?

This is what americans actually do.
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>>6094792

No. But your eurofags don't understand sarcasm.
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OP seems like a reasonable person.
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>>6094720
MA?
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>>6094792
>Allowing the spreading of evil when it's called politics

This is what the naive actually do.
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>>6094838
he means Morocco, maybe.
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>>6094838
Middle arab country perhaps???
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>>6094720
>Thats fine but at 7 your body isn't ready for it. Both mentally and phyically.

Sex doesn't mean sexual intercourse.
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hmm. this actually is a very good question, as many adults are only as smart as 7 year olds and similarly lack the capacity to defend themselves.

of course, regardless, it is distasteful to most parents the notion of adults using children for the purposes of sexual gratification. and most of us wish to be parents. if i had a daughter and knew that there was a kidtoucher who had become aware of her... hm... i must say that my mind wuold be preoccupied with the matter of how to exterminate that unfortunate fellow...
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>>6094940
of course, if you give them an inch...

i can imagine that if you legalize pedophilia, there will be many man children pedophiles who will attempt to adbuct children and hold them hostage whilst claiming that the children are there under their own volition, and that society permits such unions.

and that is just something i don't want to tolerate.

i still have nothing against loli drawings and the such... it's not my taste but fantasy is fantasy...
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>>6094940

When she's 16 you'll still want to kill any penis that goes near her, same when she's 18, 21.... probably know she's had plenty of cock after that, but you'll still want rid of any man you don't think is good enough.
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>>6094720
kinda sounding like you're saying its cool to fuck a 13 year old if everyone else is doing it, dude you a freak!
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Get 'em while they're young, that's when they're the tightest. Good thinking OP.
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>>6094940
>it is distasteful to most parents the notion of adults using children for the purposes of sexual gratification

You are disgusting, I'm talking about hands-on sex education. Or y'know, just leave it to the cool older kids, I'm sure they're the most responsible and safe teachers.
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>>6094981
when she's 16, she's still living under my care and i will do my best to instruct her as to the dangers of fucking older men for kicks or money.

when she is 18 or 21, i hope to god that she will have grown out of her naivete and will think about her needs more carefully.
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>>6094458 (OP)

Because 7 year old children are not grown-up people and you are a sick fuck when you are sexually attracted to them.

Pedophilia not a culture-thing, it's just a mental sickness. Get some help.
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>>6094458 (OP)

Because 7 year old children are not grown-up people and you are a sick fuck when you are sexually attracted to them.

Pedophilia not a culture-thing, it's just a mental sickness. Get some help.
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I guarantee you OP just got put on a blacklist by the FBI or his ISP. I fucking hope so. OP is a fucking pedophile. Age of consent at 15-16 Sure why not but 7? Fucking hell.
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i didn't know that this was a PC board, this is worst than the holocaust
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>>6095121
>PC

Fuck you, you can spin this bullshit anyway but FUCKING A 7 YEAR OLD ISN'T FUCKING NORMAL. 15 and up is fine because they fucking developed and know what kind of choice they are making. 7 years old ISN'T FUCKING NORMAL.
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>>6095082
Again, it's a political view. I feel seriously fucking sorry for anyone living in a country where expressing a certain political view that's TOO FAR OUT THERE merits surveillance. Jesus christ you americans don't even realise how insane you sound.

>>6095078
>Pedophilia not a culture-thing, it's just a mental sickness
The same was said about gays.

>>6095144
PC POLICE RESPONSE TEAM. BREACH OF NORMALITY IMMEDIATE DISPATCH REQUIRED
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>>6094458 (OP)

Sexual attraction is part of your basic instinct and a signal for fertility. So when you get a boner for a 7 year old child, your drives are telling you by mistake that that child would be able to give birth.

So yeah, it's a mental and physical disfunction and therefore a crime.
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>>6095197
>So yeah, it's a mental and physical disfunction and therefore a crime.

ahaha oh wow, those huge jumps in logic.

Also, gay sex is not a crime.
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>>6095082
Don't worry, the hurt feelings police will knock down OP's door any moment now.

>OH GOD SOMEONE DISAGREES WITH MUIH VIEWPOINT

>>>/reddit/
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>>6095186

You just better hope I never become Emperor, pal, because freaks like you will be tortured and executed for my amusement and the amusement of my harem filled with 16 and 17 year old girls.
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>>6095144
fuck off PCIDF, this thread is what /pol/ should be about, if you don't agree you are en edgy moral teenager
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>>6095186

You are just spitting out lame excuses and try to justify your paedophiliac behaviour. You don't know shit about biology, do you?
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>>6095186
>it's a political view

No, it's a mental illness that is incurable and the only way to get rid of it is a bullet to the head.
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you know what... maybe laws against pedophilia are like laws against racial bigotry. perhaps it is only really vile when the pedophile does something vile, such as rape a child or take a child prisoner. perhaps we don't actually need laws against pedophilia. i mean, what does it accomplish, really?
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>>6095231
>Doesn't support pedophilia
>Somehow from reddit

Yeah, nah you're a cunt.
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>>6095272
because the next step is to outlaw anal sex or hebephilia and i can't be having that.
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>>6095231

You can't put paedophilia and homosexuality on the same level.

A 7 year old child has no sense of responsibility, so when you have intercourse with one, you make use of their irresponsibility which is basically abuse.

Two homosexual grown-ups however have this sense of responsibility, so it's OK that they have intercourse with each other.

Quit pulling strawmen arguments for your mental sickness.
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>>6095256
>You are just spitting out lame excuses and try to justify your paedophiliac behaviour. You don't know shit about biology, do you?

Please enlighten me... without using vague and arbitrary concepts like 'normal' or 'fertile', I want to hear the science behind your viewpoint.

>>6095263
>wanting to change the age of consent is an illness
Oh god
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>>6095331
It is a Mental Illness when the age of Consent is fucking 7 years old
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>>6095331

How about you bring up some arguments that support your illness?
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The filthy pedophilia obsessed degenerates in this thread need to be crucified
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>/pol/ is a moralfag shithole
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>>6095369
>against people having sex with 7 year olds
>moralfag

Please stop using that word improperly.
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>>6095361
Please enlighten me... without using vague and arbitrary concepts like 'normal' or 'fertile', I want to hear the science behind your viewpoint.
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>>6095387
Would you be in favor of a law that would enable people to both date and have sexual relations with pic related.
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>>6094735
>shooting brown people for sport
>a bad practice
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>>6095387

Sex is basically a tool of reproduction. You can't reproduce with a 7 year old. When you want to have sex with one, you think you could, which is wrong.

Quit defending yourself, enjoy your v&.
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>>6095313
you could make the same argument about a 25 year old and a 50 year old. in fact, i think that very relationship is illegal in some states -which i think is silly at best.

if the 25 year old and the 50 year old want to have a relationship, well, who is being harmed? perhaps the 50 year olds' sperm is more likely to produce a downie but eh,,, what if neither party wants kids? and what if there is technology to circumvent birth defects (inb4 abortion quagmire)

i agree with the notion that the govt should protect people from harm but i am repulsed by the idea of some shithead nanny asshole telling anyone that they can't do what they please when it doesn't harm anyone else. i would rather pass laws to prevent things that most people would find negative -such as ensuring that your baby will be free of birth defects before pumping it into the world, for instance.
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>>6095451
*not american states
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>>6095441
you can't reproduce with men either, but we still allow you to have sex with them.
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>>6095429
>You don't know shit about biology, do you?
Please enlighten me... without using vague and arbitrary concepts like 'normal' or 'fertile', I want to hear the science behind your viewpoint.

>>6095441
>When you want to have sex with one, you think you could, which is wrong.
Please enlighten me... without using vague and arbitrary concepts like 'normal' or 'fertile', I want to hear the science behind your viewpoint.
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>>6095387
Children at young ages are in a period of time where they are still developing. During this period of time they see adults as people in a position of authority and as figures they have to listen to and respect. Sex and sexual relations fail unless the two people in the relationship are able to stand are equal grounds in agreement, between a child and an adult this is completely impossible.
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>>6095469
You didn't answer my question. Would you be in favor of a law that would enable people to both date and have sexual relations with >>6095429
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>>6095451

>you could make the same argument about a 25 year old and a 50 year old

>perhaps the 50 year olds' sperm is more likely to produce a downie

Jesus Christ you are fucking stupid. Go back to Bible School you retarded fuck. Can't argue with such a moron.
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>>6095034
>when she is 18 or 21, i hope to god that she will have grown out of her naivete and will think about her needs more carefully
You don't go out much, do you?
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>>6095441
actually, you can reproduce with a 7yo. you can even reproduce with a 5yo.

> they see adults as people in a position of authority and as figures they have to listen to and respect
not everyone is like that. my parents raised me to be a skeptic. but then, i am an unemployed med school drop out so...

that reminds me... i need to get back to work.
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>>6095482
>Sex and sexual relations fail unless the two people in the relationship are able to stand are equal grounds in agreement, between a child and an adult this is completely impossible.

[citation needed]

>>6095486
Don't palm off my question, just answer it.

You *can* answer it, right?
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I love how people ITT think 'right' and 'wrong' means anything.

'Right' and 'wrong' is what YOU consider 'right' and 'wrong'.

If I think you're talking out of your buttcrack, who's wrong?

'MUH FEELINGS' isn't gonna cut it.
Provide objective FACTS and authority or gtfo of this thread.
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>>6095531
I'm not the biology guy. I'm not arguing about Biology.
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>>6095226
Sexual attraction is part of your basic instinct and a signal for fertility. So when you get a boner for a person of the same gender, your drives are telling you by mistake that that person would be able to give birth.
So yeah, it's a mental and physical disfunction and therefore a crime.
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>>6095486
Fucking no. And if I would find out you were doing something like that, I'd beat you, peel your testicles and feed them to you, then shoot you starting at your ankles and working up till I put the last one between your eyes.
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>>6095553
Good job, that proves you don't have a mental illness unlike half the people in this thread.
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>>6095274
What's funny is that reddit had several pedo and pedo-related boards, making reddit users more supportive of pedophilia than 4chan users.
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>>6095567
I know, i was gonna say something but i didn't feel the need.
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>>6095290
Hebephilia doesn't exist to the public. It's only a legal term.
If she's under 18, you're a paedo, despite that not even being the case.
That might be why it's seen as such a bad thing by moralfags, if you like anyone under the age of consent - because it's always called "paedophilia", regardless of age.
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>>6095313

You're right, making a jump from one extreme (faggots) to another (pedophiles) is hard to grasp at the possibility of ever happening. I prose this question to you anon, since you're able to logically claim that because two homosexual adults have a sense of 'responsibility', and this makes it okay for them to proceed in intercourse. By that logic, you cannot discriminate against incest relationships so long as the brother and sister (or brother/brother, sister/sister) are adults that accept full responsibility and proceed with intercourse.

This is your logic anon, remember that you are the one who claimed that the reason homosexuals are OK to have intercourse is due to their "sense of responsibility". This sense of judgement means that any adult can consent to a relationship of any kind whether it be incest or polygamy so long as the people engaged are responsible adults. Tell me anon, responsibility can be a subjective word, what do you mean by definition when you use that word? Are you using the word responsibility in its denotative or connotative format?

Note that I'm not supportive of pedophilia (which is a mental illness that cannot be cured except with a bullet through the skull), incest, polygamy, or faggotry, but am merely playing devil's advocate to see if you intend to discriminate other adults who can be just as responsible in their consent in a relationship that is neither gay nor straight, but is instead incestual and/or polygamist.
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>>6095531
You disagree with my statement?
Okay, there are two clauses you can disagree with.
1. Sex and sexual relationships are built upon equal stance in agreement. As in, no side of the group is forced into it, or put in a position where they feel they have to agree.
2. Children view adults as being in a position of authority and power.
Which one don't you agree with?
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>>6095482
>During this period of time they see adults as people in a position of authority and as figures they have to listen to and respect.

Confirmed for having never talked a child as an adult.
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Op I'll appeal to you reasonably. 7 year old girls are not sexually mature. If you penetrate a female that is not sexually mature you risk damaging her reproductive system and you hinder its develop which could lead to her not being able to enjoy sex at a later age. 12 to 13 is the age that most humans reach sexual maturity. I have no problem with sexual relations with a person that is sexually mature. However, you must understand that we as humans have attached so much to sex and there are so many complexities and nuances to human sexuality that a 12 or 13 year old most likely would not fully comprehend until their brain matures. The act itself by itself is not sick. But the fact that people can, have, and do exploit children for these reasons is detestable. Now if whoever your sex partner is, is fully educated in sexuality (at any age) and can prove as much, then I feel that it is fair to engage in sexual activity with them. Just my two cents on the matter.
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>>6095560
>EVERYONE WHO THINKS DIFFERENTLY THAN MY IS DUMB
Rationalize your opinion without making assumptions about the physical and mental states of the people involved in the act as they are highly individual. You can't? That means you are wrong.
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>>6094458 (OP)
Because it's not biologically feasible. The child is too small. Children can't consent. They aren't develped emotionally and mentally enough to consent to having sex with someone older.
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>>6095611
They can consent to just about everything else, why not sex? Why can I hug them but now have sex with them?
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>>6095451
I think an older mother is more likely to produce a downie, supposedly sperm have the ability to re-grow telomere, so the older the guy is, the older the child will live to be, iirc. because it passes that down somehow.
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>>6095611
>Because it's not biologically feasible.
>The child is too small.
>They aren't develped emotionally and mentally enough to consent to having sex with someone older.

The same can be said for midgets.
You just sound like a bigot.
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The practice should return that when women reach the age of puberty, her parents begin looking for an on-the-rise young man to marry her off to. She would be around 12 years old, and her prospective husband would be anyone from 14-19, or even greater in some cases. They would both receive excellent homeschool educations, far beyond the scope any private or public school can offer at these ages, and be fully aware of their duties and ambitions in life. The young man would already be moving in a positive direction and would be viewed as an excellent candidate to wed this family's daughter.

They would arrange for the two to meet and see how they get along. If they like each other then they would be married.

They would thereafter spend the rest of their lives only knowing one another's company: it would be a brute fact of one another's lives that they have each other.

Life then would not be about being good enough to acquire a mate, for you would always have one. Life would now be about developing your mind and serving your republic: improving your civilization for the good of posterity. The menial pursuit of the opposite sex would be erased entirely. This is the promise of civilization.
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>>6095511
If it was really about women "growing up" and being responsible, we should set the age at 30-35. Only when the clock starts ticking real loud, do they start coming to their senses.
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>>6095600
>Which one don't you agree with?

Let's pretend I'm a blank slate. Prove to me that your stance is correct or even that those statements hold truth in any way.

>>6095611
>Because it's not biologically feasible

Meaning what?

>The child is too small
Sex =/= sexual intercourse

>Children can't consent
Why not? Can they consent to a hug or a high five or a game of mario kart?

>They aren't develped emotionally and mentally enough to consent to having sex with someone older
See the point above
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>>6094458 (OP)
because not all females are developed enough physically to handle a dicking, nor are they developed enough to handle a fuck em and leave em situation.

not only that, but the only valid reason for sex is reproduction, anything else is deviancy.

if it cant reproduce, then sex is only to fulfill selfish desires, and not for the betterment or future of the species. so ask yourself op

do you want to fuck little girls because they want it? or because you want it.
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Here's the trufax, no-MUHFEELINGS truth.

Children generally can't consent to sex by any modern definition of consent (children are capable of feeling sexual pleasure but not really sexual *attraction*). Furthermore, because of their, for lack of a better word, innocence, they fail to see sex as something that should be given out very carefully and thus are prone to manipulation.

Is it possible in theory for a child and adult to be mutually attracted to each other and have sexual contact on a non-manipulative and mutual basis? Probably. Is that 1/100000 occurrence worth putting the other 99,999 kids at risk? No.

With that said, I hope science can dredge up enough money to create cheap VR machines for pedophiles so they can mindjump into loli animoo land (animoo lolis > real children anyway) or mass-produce loli clones with sexual awareness so we don't have to go through this shit. There's nothing even the most fascistic government can do about pedophilia until we invent pre-crime, and that's a road we do not want to go down.
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>>6095655

That system goes against our very nature which is to seek out as many mates as possible. In the early days the only reason we had monogamous mates was to ensure the survival of our children. In this new age the old ways are obsolete and we should be free to pursue whatever we like to our hearts content. You only have one life, why must I dedicate mine to the rest of you fags?
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>girls can train for the olympics since age 6 (gymnastics)
>girls can't consent at age 7
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>>6094458 (OP)

Look at all these moralfags, it was fine thousands of years ago to fuck women as young as 11 and the germans raped russian girls as young as 8.

Morals change all the time you're all brainwashed
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>>6095699
Free yourself from base hedonism and accept the full capabilities of the flourishing human being: your countercultural regressionism is only harming our ability to progress as a species.
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>>6094458 (OP)
>why the age of consent shouldn't be 7

Because of her
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>>6095641
All hugging of minors (people under 18) is rape, since it is physical contact they can't consent to.
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>>6095687

You do realize that dolphins, chimps, and bonobos fuck for pleasure right? Are they fucking over their species by doing so?
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>>6095707
THIS, woman as young as 7 have been natural reproductive partners in every point of history except the last 70 years, so what does makes more sense?
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>>6095716

I don't owe this species SHIT. Anything I do I do for me, now if it benefits you so be it. You want mindless drones to do the bidding of you and people like you for what you interpret as progress and best for us all, but people have their own concept of whats best for them, its called sentience. If you want a robot then build one.
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>>6095669
Sex is emotionally and psychologically charged and the secrecy and guilt aspects of, say, doing it with a male relative, really messes you up over time, even if you like the guy who's molesting you (He's still the only guy I've ever met who actually kissed me before putting his dick inside me - I do have to admit he did a damn good job of grooming me)

I will admit that the effects are exacerbated by how the cops/psychs handled it, but the secrecy, lying and the guilt of being touched that way and then being told to hide it and not tell anyone - it was awful.
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Realisticaly, it would be when puberty starts to hit, but that shit is pretty haphazard.

I'd say 13-14 at the VERY lowest, when you're sure that they're all on the same page biologically speaking. That'll keep people who aren't bonefide babyfuckers from being ruined for life with child rape charges (including teenagers who fuck one another and/or send naked pictures to each other.)

If you want kids in the 8 or under range, you need some help.
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>>6095669
First one, rape and other forms of sexual coercion are wrong. They damage the psyches of the people involved and are harmful to society. If you want me to prove this you may as well ask me to show that language can hold any purposeful meaning in conveying thoughts for as far your dick is up your own ass.

Second one, our society is built on a structure wherein adults are constantly in a position of power and authority over kids. Teachers, parents, police, doctors, and lots of other positions are positions only held by adults that children have to listen to. There are effectively no examples of the contrary, positions where children are in positions of authority over adults. This demonstrates that children view adults as having positions of power and authority.

From these two points we can reach a conclusion, that any adult who requests sex or attempts to position a child into sex will be viewed as the child as being in a position of authority, and these requests will make use of this position regardless of whether the adult intends to or not. This is then an example of forceful coercion into sex, which has been shown to be bad.

I tried to make this easy by showing the counterpoint to be absurd, but fine be difficult.
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>>6095646
Yes I'm a bigot. Trying to stop you from tearing up seven year old's orifices. Horrible.
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On new years eve 2006 I was round my Aunt's house on a visit for the new year.

I was 17 at the time and I had sexual fantasies about my 8 year old girl cousin. during the new year festivities, my parents being the massive drunken alcoholics they were became completely shitfaced in the house. Wallowing in their on puddle of filth and vodka and crashed out on the table.

I was left alone with my cousin. I was put in charge of her to put her to sleep soon. I was sat down with a couple of beers watching the new years TV coverage, when she came over to me and sat on my lap. I say lap, what I really mean was she grinded her little groin into my dick as i sat there trying to contain my boner. So i had a plan, I went into the bathroom and got utlra-strong sleeping pills, and dropped 3 pills into a glass of water i gave to her when i set her off to bed. I abused my trust for sexual gratification, and I raped her in a few hours later when she was out cold in her little bed
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>implying understanding sexuality means they're responsible enough to engage in it
>implying social customs haven't just adjusted to take note of developmental periods
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>>6095847
>I was 17 at the time and I had sexual fantasies about my 8 year old girl cousin. during the new year festivities, my parents being the massive drunken alcoholics they were became completely shitfaced in the house. Wallowing in their on puddle of filth and vodka and crashed out on the table.

Does she know?
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>>6095806
>They damage the psyches of the people involved and are harmful to society.

Actually it's been shown that your 'sexual coercion' (i.e anything you don't like the thought of) of kids is proven to be lacking in harm.
http://digilib.bc.edu/reserves/sc563/mcgu/sc56310.pdf

>This demonstrates that children view adults as having positions of power and authority.
Nope, it demonstrates that adults have power over children, not that every adult is automatically seen as an authority figure.
This point is meaningless anyway.

>This is then an example of forceful coercion into sex

It is not forceful or coercion, though it can be.

>I tried to make this easy by showing the counterpoint to be absurd, but fine be difficult.

You're assuming things from your cultural standpoint you fucking idiot. At least try to be objective.
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>>6095885

Nope, they were well and truely out of it. Been drinking since the afternoon, they had no idea.
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>>6095806
In theory, but in practice, a lot of kids don't even listen to their parents, and certainly not to teachers and doctors. Maybe police because police hold coercive power over everyone. And if you're some random with a random desk job, realistically, what sway do you

This isn't the 50s anymore where kids are innocent little flowers until their early-mid twenties. Due to TV making it okay to be cheeky to adults and undermining them as authority figures your average 10 year old is dressing and talking (and possibly looking at porn) like the average 16 year old just 10-15 years before.

If there was any time in modern history where you could say children could consent to sex (at least in theory), it's right now.
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I think OP's a Catholic priest. 7 is their "age of reason".
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>>6095776
I want the civilization to prosper. Base & egoist hedonists like you are apropos to this happening. After we liberate ourselves from the liberal dark age and accept eugenics & progress, your kind will be scorned and eliminated. 'tis only as a collective that humanity will flourish. Brigands like you will forever fail.
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>>6095733
once they become adults they do. and of course animals obviously know their safe and unsafe days so they can continue to fuck without the annoyance of child birth. they also fuck with rubbers and other forms of birth control.

also I would like to point out that mammal instincts are incentive based, and this is all well and fine, because the pleasure is needed to makes procreation a more attractive concept. the moment you add birth control or engage in anything other than dick in vagina it becomes deviancy.
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>>6095922
>eugenics
>not precise genetic engineering

Nazi pleb detected.
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>>6095943
Bonobos engage in pedophilia.

Deal with it.

>the moment you add birth control or engage in anything other than dick in vagina it becomes deviancy

Deviancy is not unnatural or bad for humans.
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>>6095894
>rind et al
>using college students as your sample
>dat selection bias
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>>6095957
>your argument is wrong because hitler
try again lib
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>>6095970
>child adult sex is the most awful traumatic thing ever, BUT college students are magically immune to it
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>>6095977
You clearly can't into reading comprehension.

Eugenics is old, outdated science that doesn't have exact results. Genetic engineering is where it's at.
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>>6095965
bonobos are animals that do not have the capacity to understand the repercussions of their actions, nor do they have a complex society that heavily relies on the psychological stability of its members.

that is the difference between humans and animals.

animals do to fulfill selfish needs. humans are able to make choices that wont ruin another human being's life simply because "it feels good" and "i want to"

but of course if you're a pedophile you're sub human anyway.
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>>6096008
eugenics = well genetics. i support well genetics.
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obligatory pedobear pic
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>>6096033
Except it's inefficient and could hide dangerous recessive genes.
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>>6095894
>I'm assuming things from a cultural standpoint
I'm using things from a cultural standpoint to show our culture shouldn't allow such things. How the fuck am I supposed to show something about our culture from outside our culture?

You strawmanned my point of sexual coercion. Sexual coercion is using force to get somebody to agree to sex. Are you going to argue approval of sexual coercion or what?

I don't get why you think views don't stretch. We don't view everything objective from everything else, and that goes doubly so for children. Even though kids will ignore instructions, adults still hold a position of authority over them in our society.

Using a position of authority in order to get somebody to do something is forceful coercion. An adult can't lower themselves to the status of a child and try to talk on an equal standing, they'll have to do it from a position of authority and that makes the results forceful.
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>>6096030
i also forgot to mention that animals are incapable of acknowledging or respecting another animals "rights"

i should stop talking because i'm dangerously close to becoming racist against niggers and sand monkeys with this kind of talk
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>>6095970
You're saying that COLLEGE STUDENTS as a sample (from dozens of institutions making up thousands of subjects) produce such a distortion from average that it totally removes any significant correlation between sexual contact as a kid and harm in later life?

My sides, my sides are moving rapidly.
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>>6096045
it's inefficient if not fully embraced; it would euthanize retards at birth, and work towards a fully integrated population that isn't dragged down by incapable moochers
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>>6096056
Force is defined as physical force in this context. You're bending the argument like a motherfucker to desperately make your point seem logical.

You're wrong and I've explained exactly why, plus research backing it up. Just deal with it.
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>>6096030

Humans are animals. We're classified in the kingdom Animalia. By denying what we are at our roots, we are damaging ourselves. This "society" and "civilization" is basically just a big game that we've agreed to play with each other to pass the time before we do because unfortunately we're self aware and need to keep busy to keep the fear of death at bay.
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When a girl starts menstruating, isn't that kind of nature's way of telling that she is ready to reproduce? I know that argument does not really work in reality because of how the majority of our society has viewed sex for a long time thanks to various religions. What if this wasn't the case, would it be okay then?
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>>6096104
I wasn't defining it as physical force. There is more then just that as a type of force. Are you saying blackmail isn't force? There are wider definitions of force then just physical. Is that seriously your counterargument?
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>>6096174
>Is that seriously your counterargument?

>>6095894
is my counterargument. The post you're replying to is just me having fun exposing your endless stupidity.

So can you respond to my actual argument or are you going to go off on another tangent?
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>>6096225
You didn't respond to my argument then.
I responded to your points at: >>6096056
Your response was >>6096104
Which didn't raise any real issues with my point, which baffled me as to why you'd use that post in response as I said at: >>6096174
I'm sorry am I missing something here?
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>>6095240
Huh, me too. Instead of the prison system, i'll bring back gladiatorial arenas for punishment where we can see people like OP get eaten by lions.
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>>6096297
Why not bears?
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>>6095922
>eugenics
See, i never get why people think it's wrong. It's the ultimate improvement for the next generation.
Frankly i think the only ones opposed just realise that they're genetic dead ends.
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Lol. I love how pedophiles always try their best to come off as nice but still employ every single logical fallacy.
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>>6096396
I guess there could be bears too. Especially since they could probably be trained to use a weapon to some minor extent, which would be hilarious.
But mostly it would just be prisoners fighting each other. It would do away with paying oodles of money keeping people comfortable in prison for years, when you can just say, "1st degree murder? You're sentenced to ten fights. After that, you can go."
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>>6096470
Fine. Jackie Chan gladiator matches.
In a ladder factory!
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>>6096490
Oh God yes. It'd be a huge revenue raising thing too. Since things like that and typical Roman-esque fights would be cheap (cinema prices?) to watch, but big battles (like recreating Carthage and Thermopylae or giving them guns and having some UT04 bombing run/CTF) would be more expensive.
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>>6096115

yes we are animals but justifying that because we are animals it is okay to violate the natural rights of other creatures is abhorrently wrong. We have the power to think and make choices where other animals only have instincts.

humans can think, can rationalize and abstract. and it's because of this horrible people can rationalize the psychotic behavior they inflict on other creatures, both humans and less mentally advanced animals alike.

but it's also why we can chose to respect the rights of others, and to live with them instead of against them.
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>>6094458 (OP)
It's for your own good

If you fucked a 7 year old her dad would probably kill you
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>>6096555
What if it WAS the dad that was fucking the 7year old?
Ah, see? Trapped you with your own logic!
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>>6096572
Well suicide is illegal so it's no better...
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Sexual identity should be discovered without the help of Uncle Jimbo wanting to get his jollies off. Sex comes with emotional shit that most adults are not prepared for. I don't think it's morally right for an adult to force a child into sexual maturity. Don't come at me with hurr durr I'm not forcing, you basically are. Sex for humans is very psychological.. If uncle Jimbo has any respect or decency he will allow that child to find their own way and wont impress his sexuality on that child. If the law cant deter paedophiles from doing what they do. Then I'm doubtful that any moral person in this thread can convince them.
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>>6096609
it's because they're sub human.
the same reason we've given niggers unlimited chances to better themselves and they still rape steal and kill.
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>>6096271
You took the most irrelevant part of my post, isolated it and ignored everything else.

Super nitpicking, pal.
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>>6096572
Then the family would probably kill him

You pedos are all sick in the head and need help. It's a 7 year old ffs, she doesn't even know how sexuality works and it's not your place to give her a hands on demonstration.


fucking sickos, if I ever meet one, he's getting beat
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don't worry op, first gay marriage then this
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>>6096641
Only thing I ignored in my response was the study, which presented a conclusion before everything else based on stats and analysis of papers I don't rightly know along with possibilities of sample bias. More importantly I was arguing with you, not with the scientific papers published by somebody else.

I believe I responded to every other point you made. If there's a point I missed, please post it and I will happily respond.
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>>6094548
you're fucking dead, kiddo
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At age 7, I didn't understand sexuality even though I was never 'protected' from it.

I didn't start puberty until I was 10 years old. Got my period at 13 years old.

Now die, mentally fucked scumbag..
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>>6096787
And shit, I didn't understand sexuality until age 17.

I'm 18 now.
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>>6096821
>notsureiftroll.TIFF

>>6096787
OP hasn't heard of puberty. In fact I'm willing to bet his balls haven't dropped yet.
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>>6096787
TITS OR GTFO
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related?

http://images.4chan.org/b/src/1349800356089.gif
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>>6097257
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Why do we apply the same standard to sexual relations as we do legal documents? It's not like it's asking a young girl to sign away her labor for the next 10 years.

sure isn't sexual hangups in here.
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>>6094517
>marry trashy crack whore
>pump out 2-3 daughters
>distract mom with crack
>turn daughters into horny sluts by age 8
>take off with them once they hit 16-18 ish
>pump out more daughters with them
>repeat above steps

>livingthedream.jpg
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I find it telling that most 'anti-pedos' are so pro-murder. An objectively more heinous crime than child molestation. And certainly more heinous than pedophilia (which isn't a crime)

Is it because of the American 'nipples bad, explosions good,' upbringing that lets them assign zero value to human life so easily? It's scary.
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>>6094458 (OP)

Well, I for one am pretty glad that laws prevent old ugly men from manipulating me into letting them fuck my seven years old boyass.
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>>6097641
>true_australian_hero.png
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>>6097656
I don't get the anti-murder faggots. We have plenty of humans. What's the problem with getting rid of the problematic ones? You wouldn't think twice about killing an insect, certainly not one which might harm you.
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Because the Prefrontal Cortex the executive center of the brain, does not fully mature until around the age of 25.

/thread
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>>6097699
>implying most gay young boys don't want hard pedo cock

I've been to a lot of gay bars, everyone there lost their anal virginity around 11-14 and it was to someone at least 5-10 years older.

The easiest way to get cock as a young faggot was to hit up the local pedo creep's house in some tight shorts and put on the old "innocent lost boy act".

shit was cash man
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>>6097782

Killing in self-defense =/= murder. I suggest you seek help.
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>>6094458 (OP)
Reddit Detected!
also thousands of studies on brain maturity, fucking pedophilic scum
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>>6097806
>>implying most gay young boys don't want hard pedo cock


Well, I am not gay, but as every kid, i was pretty naive at the age of seven and any pedo would have been able to make me let him fuck me.
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>>6097851
I meant it more in reference to the death penalty. Obviously going around murdering people indiscriminately would fall under the banner of "problematic."
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>>6094720
>other guy asks why the age of consent should be 7
>you say because it's wrong
>lolwut
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>>6097894

Oh, so you're pro-death penalty for child molestation?

>monilgm penalize
Silly captcha
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>molested at Age 5, 7, 9 multiple times
>why god, why
>rest of my adult life tainted by my childhood abuse

Because seven year olds are children who do not have the capacity to understand the repercussions of sex, are still easily molded by authority figures, and still require the protection and care of authority figures.
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>>6098012
BUT THEN WHO WILL WE HAVE TO BE OUR STRIPPERS?????
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>>6097891
Well, 7 is a rather far cry from 11.

For the most part (though you'll never hear this for obvious PC reasons), the general consensus is "where were all those boy-raping Catholic priests when I was a kid?)
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>>6097957
Yea, and plenty of things, really. Though only because it's the closest to proper punishment we have in the "civilised" world. Frankly i'd prefer a return to the Roman methods described above.
Gonna have less people diddling kids when they could face a few rounds in the arena against dudes twice their size with better weapons.
Or just a few days of torture followed by crucifixion.
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>>6098102
It's funny because Rome was okay with diddling kids, boys and girls (at least if you were in the nobility)
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the interracial dating of 2012
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>>6098102

So you put child rape squarely above adult rape? Or are they equals? If they are equals, what would you do about fraudulent claims?

Seems psychotically extreme to sentence a man to death because his ex is feeling vindictive.
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>>6098153
Indeed.
It was said to build character.
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>>6098153
Not really okay with it. It was frowned upon, but they just didn't punish it as much.
A lot of the time, though, they would just use it as an insult when someone became unpopular.
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>>6098239
>Ganymede had been tending sheep, a rustic or humble pursuit characteristic of a hero's boyhood before his privileged status is revealed. Zeus either sent an eagle or turned himself to an eagle to transport the youth to Mount Olympus. All the gods were filled with joy to see the youth, except for Hera, Zeus's consort, who regarded Ganymede as a rival for her husband's affection.

HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>6098209
Equals, i suppose. And of course there'd be decent scrutiny of cases. But there would also be matching punishments for those who would commit fraud. For everyone involved (her lawyers and any supporting witnesses, for example).
But in the end, Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius.
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>>6098301
Quis Molestat Ipsos Molestiae?
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>>6098333
Men who molest molestation?
They'd be thrown to the lions (or bears) too...
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>>6098301

Then what about those who mis-remember? Fraud is one thing, but in the heat of the moment, fact and fiction blend together. If an eye-witness/victim recalls an assailant's nose being a little wider than it really was, are they too condemned to death?
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>>6098395
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just look it up.
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>>6098449
I did. That's what it came back with.
I'm a trifle confused...
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>>6094458 (OP)
Because its WRONG...

The age of consent should probably be puberty and decided by the parents.

/eternity.
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>>6098439
If the jury decide beyond all reasonable doubt that she mis-remembered, i guess they'll be free to go.
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>>6098468
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>>6098514
>>6098506
This IS relevant!!
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>>6098535
Ahhh, that makes more grammatical sense.
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>>6098556
How is that relevant to witnesses remembering things incorrectly?!
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DO WANT
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>>6098514

Well, I for one would never even consider stepping forward as an eye witness in your proposed justice system.

There's far too much risk involved in being a decent human being and trying to help solve a crime.
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>>6094458 (OP)
Because while a child has the possibility of understanding sex, they do not have the possibility of giving birth or taking responsibility for a child.
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>>6098799
>7 years old
>giving birth

hahaohwow.jpg
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>>6098963
CHALLENGE ACCEPTED
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>>6098963
5 years old. Your move.
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>>6101633
>oh wow one 5 year old who was fucking pubescent at 5 means every flat chested 7 year old loli can have kids
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Screw the discussion and debate crap I want to (gently with regard to her immature undeveloped girlparts) fuck the shit out of Elle Fanning.

Blond little girls in dresses with pantyhose is my fetish.
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>>6101711
feed em a bucket of hormones and you're good to go!
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>>6102343
Corporations already do this in developed countries, the law needs to catch the fuck up.

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