Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)08:35
No.6093712

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)08:35 No.6093712

Replies: >>6093734

BWAHAHAHAHAHA

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)08:37
No.6093734

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)08:37 No.6093734

Replies: >>6097547

>>6093712
Yeah... you laugh now...
Soon, your children will be watching him on TV and reciting the alphabet and doing basic arithmetic.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)08:38
No.6093760

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)08:38 No.6093760

clone mark wahlberg

>Wahlberg had been in trouble 20–25 times with the Boston Police Department in his youth. By the age of thirteen, Wahlberg had developed an addiction to cocaine and other substances.[8][9] At fifteen, he harassed a group of black school children on a field trip by throwing rocks and shouting racial epithets. When he was sixteen, Wahlberg approached a middle-aged Vietnamese man on the street and, using a large wooden stick, knocked him unconscious (while calling him "Vietnam fucking shit"). He also attacked another Vietnamese man, leaving him permanently blind in one eye

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)08:42
No.6093795

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)08:42 No.6093795

Replies: >>6093813 >>6093829

for fuck's sake, disagree with obama all you want but he's not a fucking socialist. anyone with half a brain could tell you that (which explains the tea party pretty well)

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)08:43
No.6093813

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)08:43 No.6093813

Replies: >>6093833

>>6093795

That's what pro-socialist(read: obama) people always say.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)08:44
No.6093829

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)08:44 No.6093829

File: 1349786656428.jpg-(40 KB, 393x550, Mitt-Romney-wants-to-canc(...).jpg)

>>6093795
Bitch, the only thing I want from you is to tell me how to get to Sesame Street!

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)08:44
No.6093833

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)08:44 No.6093833

Replies: >>6093864

>>6093813
except i'm not pro-obama

sage for disinfo

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)08:46
No.6093864

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)08:46 No.6093864

Replies: >>6094689

File: 1349786818971.jpg-(32 KB, 417x315, 1349372228925.cached.jpg)

>>6093833
Either you're with us, or you're with the Muppets.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)08:52
No.6093945

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)08:52 No.6093945

File: 1349787158847.jpg-(33 KB, 527x513, big-bird-and-the-letter-o.jpg)

Wow. He really was on SNL.

http://www.hulu.com/watch/409934

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)09:00
No.6094062

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)09:00 No.6094062

Replies: >>6094172

Its not like Sesame Street sells clothing lines, toy lines and everything in between from dishes to bath towels.

Oh wait they do.

Fuck them. Cut every fucking cent from PBS and NPR funding. They'll make up for it by increasing the sales of merchandise or underwriters.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)09:09
No.6094172

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)09:09 No.6094172

>>6094062
Indeed. Big Bird's video games for the Xbox360 were runaway bestsellers

Anonymous
get a clue: in rea(...) 10/09/12(Tue)09:15
No.6094238

get a clue: in reality... Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)09:15 No.6094238

Replies: >>6094433 >>6094469 >>6094493 >>6099306

I have toddlers:

1. pbs is obsolete, heard of the internet?
2. sesame street loudly advertises they use their funding to make a foreign version of their program in countries around the world
3. nick jr is much better -much much much better-- and with no commercials
4. pbs might as well be called "multiculti" programming.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)09:32
No.6094433

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)09:32 No.6094433

Replies: >>6094523 >>6094632 >>6099306

>>6094238
Millions of Americans don't have cable or satellite like you do you prick.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)09:35
No.6094469

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)09:35 No.6094469

Replies: >>6094540

>>6094238
>nick jr is much better

i don't believe you actually think that. why are people so stupid allowed to have kids?

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)09:37
No.6094493

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)09:37 No.6094493

Replies: >>6094602 >>6094673

File: 1349789868411.jpg-(273 KB, 500x636, 1335642062978.jpg)

>>6094238
You're ACTUALLY making a big deal of Sesame Street?
Compared to the rest of the federal budget and sources of real waste...
that show costs almost NOTHING.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)09:40
No.6094523

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)09:40 No.6094523

>>6094433
bullshit

Not only is that a fucking lie: public libraries.

Books!!

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)09:42
No.6094540

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)09:42 No.6094540

Replies: >>6094565 >>6094583

>>6094469
much much much better: sesame street is bad by comparison to the worst nick jr kids show

plus: public schools and public libraries

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)09:44
No.6094565

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)09:44 No.6094565

Replies: >>6094688

>>6094540
You realize those public schools and public libraries (much like the Public Broadcasting System) are publicly funded?

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)09:45
No.6094583

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)09:45 No.6094583

Replies: >>6094615

>>6094540
wow. it's like you WANT your kids to grow up retarded.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)09:46
No.6094591

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)09:46 No.6094591

Replies: >>6099173

File: 1349790413729.jpg-(439 KB, 1600x1143, Warhammer 40k furfags fur(...).jpg)

>I had a vision of the future of Sesame Street... if Mitt Romney is elected

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)09:47
No.6094602

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)09:47 No.6094602

Replies: >>6094618 >>6094648

>>6094493
Cutting has to start somewhere, so why don't you make some suggestions, complete with numbers, and then consider how damaging publicly detailing those cuts would be to a candidate for POTUS.

I'm not strictly defending Romney here. I'm not defending politics. But be realistic, and be specific. If you attempt to make specific, and consequential cuts you get Ron Pauled

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)09:49
No.6094615

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)09:49 No.6094615

>>6094583
lold

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)09:49
No.6094618

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)09:49 No.6094618

Replies: >>6094687

>>6094602
FINE.
We go back to the 1997 budget and taxation-rates.
From there... we make incremental adjustments.
How's that?

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)09:51
No.6094632

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)09:51 No.6094632

Replies: >>6094667

>>6094433
The US doesn't offer free to air television anymore

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)09:52
No.6094648

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)09:52 No.6094648

Replies: >>6094696 >>6094755 >>6096544

File: 1349790725092.png-(2 KB, 270x250, 9b6b4ac6234a38d7f61757290(...).png)

>>6094602

Oh I don't know.........maybe we could do some cutting

<-----HERE

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)09:53
No.6094667

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)09:53 No.6094667

>>6094632
Yeah they do. You just need a digital coverter box if you don't have a new enough TV that they are already built in. I think they are around $10

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)09:53
No.6094673

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)09:53 No.6094673

>>6094493
How much of the federal budget is PBS, anyway? I doubt it's even one percent. Military funding and entitlements are the real elephants in the the room. Heck, if you want to make a token gesture, cutting congressmen's salaries would be a more impressive austerity measure. It's not like most of them aren't rich bastards anyway.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)09:54
No.6094677

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)09:54 No.6094677

Replies: >>6094685

Last weeks SNL was the first funny one in a long time, and BBs appearance was the highlight. Very classily done.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)09:54
No.6094685

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)09:54 No.6094685

Replies: >>6094745

>>6094677
fuck, i missed SNL last week because they're usually shit. talk about your liberal jew media, i tell ya hwut

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)09:55
No.6094687

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)09:55 No.6094687

>>6094618
That's nice. But that is how we got here. Budgets for everything already account for incremental adjustments, automatically inflating year to year. You need to go back farther, before guaranteed inflation was a reality.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)09:55
No.6094688

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)09:55 No.6094688

Replies: >>6094728 >>6099390

>>6094565
>>6094565
Your helping my case not hurting it.

Duplicative redubdant spending makes PBS a perfect icon for bad public spending.

PS public school!!

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)09:55
No.6094689

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)09:55 No.6094689

Replies: >>6094726 >>6101502

>>6093864
Posting shitty Reddit meme images should be an autoban.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)09:55
No.6094696

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)09:55 No.6094696

Replies: >>6094754

>>6094648
lol. we know what you're saying... but you need to label your chart for it to make sense.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)09:57
No.6094726

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)09:57 No.6094726

>>6094689

The only meme images that count come from outposts of patriotism like freerepublic and hisfirsthugecock.com, everybody knows that.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)09:57
No.6094728

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)09:57 No.6094728

Replies: >>6094795

File: 1349791065279.gif-(1.96 MB, 300x200, animated LolCats in car d(...).gif)

>>6094688
>redubdant spending
>50 state governments
>Army
>Navy
>Air Force
>Marines
Why not start there?

And anyway... with something as important as education...
Every little bit helps.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)09:57
No.6094729

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)09:57 No.6094729

Replies: >>6094802 >>6095073

File: 1349791067558.png-(99 KB, 504x504, romney_defense_1.jpg1.png)

Plus, it's not like Romney is actually talking about cutting any budgets. Whatever cuts the republicans talk about is bullshit. They want to cut programs they don't like and give that money to "Private Sector" military contractors. That's how Romney plans to create jobs in the "Private Sector". What a sham!

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)09:58
No.6094745

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)09:58 No.6094745

>>6094685
Meyers was obviously traumatised by Obama's debate performance, although he channeled his butthurt into some laughs.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)09:59
No.6094754

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)09:59 No.6094754

>>6094696

Oh yeah. That chart represents current military budgets by country.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)09:59
No.6094755

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)09:59 No.6094755

Replies: >>6094777 >>6094839 >>6094847 >>6097774

>>6094648
Ok. So say we cut ALL defense spending....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0RkWqyn1y4

Well shit, we're still turning deficits.

Cutting has to come from everywhere. This liberal notion that defense spending should be first or the only consideration is so short sighted it hurts.

Starting with the largest budget requirement and working down is not how you cut. You put everything on the table and ask the question. What the FUCK is the Federal Government's responsibility, really?

The answer is protecting national sovereignty. Defense. Federal Government has few other responsibilities.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)10:01
No.6094777

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)10:01 No.6094777

Replies: >>6094836

>>6094755
>The answer is protecting national sovereignty.
We're surrounded by two oceans. If Canada can get by on a minimalist military, so can we.

And also...
a lot of us would like to see tax rates restored to the 1990s rates.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)10:02
No.6094795

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)10:02 No.6094795

>>6094728
>implying a president can cut state budgets
>implying pbs is the extent of his plan

now ur just lashing out

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)10:03
No.6094802

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)10:03 No.6094802

>>6094729


that's romney's whole plan==suck that jewish dick and attack anyone whom they tell him to. you can bet if romney gets into office, war with iran is for sure. repukes love war. there hasn't been a repuke in office that didn't start or prolong a war.


and of course, since repukes are even sacrificing their goy children for their messianic rothchild master, the money flows, each day getting them more and more in debt so that the next actor can't do sheyat but the same thing

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)10:05
No.6094836

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)10:05 No.6094836

Replies: >>6094915

>>6094777
>international shipping lanes
>nation dependent on imports
>world reserve currency

Yeah, we're perfectly safe without much of any military. Canada does it, and it isn't like their neighbor is the largest military spender by a factor of 4, and they are allies with that Nation.

You're interpreting my arguments that defense should not be cut. I already made the argument that everything should be on the table. The implication being that everything is subject not strictly to 100% cuts, but partial cuts. But keep making this only about military instead of acknowledging that SS, Medicare, Medicaid, and the interest on our debts are what are ultimately killing us.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)10:06
No.6094839

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)10:06 No.6094839

Replies: >>6094982

File: 1349791604748.png-(51 KB, 800x600, 800px-U.S._Defense_Spendi(...).png)

>>6094755

LOL. Defense? You mean invasion and occupation don't you?

You been duped. Was our "national sovereignty " at risk in 2000 when we had a military base budget around $300,000,000,000? It's more than doubled in the last 10 years.

But that is just keeping up with inflation right?

Nobody is suggesting military be the only thing cut, but to increase it even further, which is what Romney is suggesting, is absolutely fucking absurd.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)10:07
No.6094847

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)10:07 No.6094847

Replies: >>6094962

>>6094755
Yeah... those numbers are fishy to me.

The Education and NASA numbers seemed overblown...
And the military numbers seemed underblown.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)10:11
No.6094903

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)10:11 No.6094903

elect Romney who will lead us to a glorious military state. yes, do that and the evil socialism will go away and be replaced by even more rampant militarism and a likely eventual dictatorship.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)10:12
No.6094915

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)10:12 No.6094915

Replies: >>6094947

>>6094836
The programs you talk of are programs millions of emericans that have worked their whole lives and paid into. When they are old and ready to rest for the remaining 20 years of their life after being a wage slave for 45 years, they rely on social security and medicare to get treated for illness, keep a roof over their head, and food on the table. I don't think they can take shelter in an aircraft carrier or eat a pegasus missile.

I question the state of mind of someone who believes we need to say "Fuck you old people, we need to spend more on military!"

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)10:14
No.6094947

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)10:14 No.6094947

Replies: >>6095073

>>6094915
Yes, because stating twice now that military should be subject to cuts means "SPEND MORE ON MILITARY"

you are clearly not open to having an honest debate.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)10:16
No.6094962

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)10:16 No.6094962

>>6094847
National budget is about 3 trillion. Defense is some 700 billion. Are you SURE the numbers are being manipulated, because defense STILL requires MOST of the year's tax "income".

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)10:17
No.6094982

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)10:17 No.6094982

Replies: >>6095042 >>6095279 >>6095299

>>6094839
You're assuming I support Romney. I am talking about balancing a fucking budget. Romney is as bad as Obama.

Can we move on now? Defense should be cut, but not eliminated. WE STILL HAVE A BUDGET DEFICIT. What else do we cut?

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)10:22
No.6095042

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)10:22 No.6095042

Replies: >>6095283

>>6094982
We increase revenue (hint: Bush tax cuts).

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)10:25
No.6095073

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)10:25 No.6095073

Replies: >>6095299

>>6094947

see>>6094729

You can talk about cutting all you want. The reality is that Romney will increase the military. Do I acknowledge that other programs need to be cut as well as military? Yes.

Social security and medicare can be shored up with some minor tweaks without raising the eligiblity age.

Medicaid should have more spending for their fraud department which would save billions. You read more and more how they are catching doctors for defrauding medicare and medicaid.
There is money to be saved across the board, but in reality just cutting budgets will never reduce the deficit. There has to be revenue increases at well. That's why the Bush tax cuts need to go.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)10:39
No.6095279

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)10:39 No.6095279

Replies: >>6095364 >>6095717

>>6094982

You might have fun with this.

http://crfb.org/stabilizethedebt/

Have fun trying to balance the budget. Post your results.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)10:39
No.6095283

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)10:39 No.6095283

File: 1349793557880.jpg-(65 KB, 301x358, 4830075284_0dfa658e64.jpg)

>>6095042
Ok, so say we cut about 600 trillion in total.

We still have a deficit.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)10:40
No.6095299

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)10:40 No.6095299

>>6095073
see
>>6094982
This isn't about Romney.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)10:44
No.6095364

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)10:44 No.6095364

Replies: >>6095519 >>6095688

>>6095279
I am the guy suggesting to cut everything but military, and then go ahead and cut military by 50% anyway, because we have debt to pay, and the sooner we repay, the lower the interest payments until debts are clear. Let the States handle everything else, IF they want to.

I'm trying to get other people to commit to something, but instead the argument is I should defend what should be cut. My defense is that we spend too much, and have a 100% debt to GPD ratio to show for it. Now it is "your" turn to balance the budget.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)10:55
No.6095519

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)10:55 No.6095519

Replies: >>6095616

>>6095364
How was it we had a balanced budget in the 1990s anyway???

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)11:03
No.6095616

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)11:03 No.6095616

Replies: >>6095823

>>6095519
Do go into detail. I'm not the one to explain your position for you, nor do you want me to.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)11:08
No.6095688

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)11:08 No.6095688

Replies: >>6095823 >>6095967

>>6095364

Good point sir! All this talk about abolishing the federal government and states rights. We had a massive federal government in the 90's AND a balanced budget.

Plus, wouldn't having all of the states with separate governments essentially make us the Separate States of America? It is being the UNITED States of America that makes us strong.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)11:10
No.6095717

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)11:10 No.6095717

Replies: >>6095734 >>6095746 >>6095788

>>6095279
>http://crfb.org/stabilizethedebt/
i balanced it.
raised taxes, especially on cake eaters
cut spending, especially on cake eaters
raised retirement age 2 years.

got 58% by 2020 and sustainable levels.

not hard.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)11:11
No.6095734

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)11:11 No.6095734

Replies: >>6095754 >>6095773

>>6095717
what are "cake eaters"?

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)11:12
No.6095746

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)11:12 No.6095746

Replies: >>6095773

>>6095717

By "cake eaters" do you mean the poor and elderly? That is exactly how Patrick Bateman would balance the budget! Nice Job.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)11:12
No.6095754

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)11:12 No.6095754

Replies: >>6095773

>>6095734
Small business owners

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)11:14
No.6095773

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)11:14 No.6095773

File: 1349795661523.jpg-(27 KB, 220x315, 220px-Mighty_ducks[1].jpg)

>>6095734
>>6095746
>>6095754
>mfw no one knows what cake-eaters means.

fucking children.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)11:15
No.6095788

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)11:15 No.6095788

Replies: >>6095812 >>6095813

>>6095717

Fuck it. Why don't we all work until we die, and get no social security or medicare. Sounds like a great quality of life!

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)11:16
No.6095812

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)11:16 No.6095812

>>6095788

You think you're going to survive on just social security and medicare?

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)11:16
No.6095813

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)11:16 No.6095813

Replies: >>6096063

>>6095788
>2 years
>waaah, no benefits work till we die

hyperbole much.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)11:17
No.6095823

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)11:17 No.6095823

Replies: >>6095871 >>6095878

>>6095688
see
>>6095616
I'm asking for detail, and you just "point to the 90s". Economies were different, and the 90s were not without bubbles distorting revenue.

Otherwise your argument about being "United" is bullshit, because this nation was founded exactly as you describe. 13 competing colonies, that otherwise shared a common interest in basic civil rights to life and liberty. That all men (people) are sovereign unto themselves, nevermind the states, etc were sovereign to themselves.

You're argument is that it is GOOD the states compromised on slavery because they UNITED, and being UNITED is inherently good. I argue otherwise. It cost over 500k Americans to keep us that way, and right what eventually would have happened anyway, courtesy of the cotton gin.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)11:20
No.6095871

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)11:20 No.6095871

Replies: >>6095913 >>6095921 >>6095927

>>6095823

So let's go back to the north and the south. Brilliant dude. Do you have a confederate flag displayed anywhere at your residence or on your vehicles by any chance?

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)11:20
No.6095878

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)11:20 No.6095878

Replies: >>6095913 >>6095921 >>6095967

>>6095823
How the hell did we go from talking about the 1990s to talking about the 13 colonies?

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)11:22
No.6095913

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)11:22 No.6095913

>>6095871
>>6095878
I'm out. Said it already, but no one else is remotely interested in an honest debate.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)11:23
No.6095921

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)11:23 No.6095921

>>6095871
>>6095878
>mah 90s

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)11:23
No.6095927

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)11:23 No.6095927

File: 1349796233564.png-(501 KB, 640x480, exploitable sinister hand(...).png)

>>6095871
Make your own!

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)11:26
No.6095967

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)11:26 No.6095967

Replies: >>6096050

>>6095878

This guy is peppering his opinions with states rights lingo to which I responded >>6095688

Hers are some of his "states rights" quotes:

"What the FUCK is the Federal Government's responsibility, really?"

"The answer is protecting national sovereignty. Defense. Federal Government has few other responsibilities."

"Let the States handle everything else, IF they want to."

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)11:31
No.6096050

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)11:31 No.6096050

File: 1349796702725.gif-(18 KB, 383x230, beating dead-horse animated.gif)

>>6095967
Ahhhhh.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)11:32
No.6096063

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)11:32 No.6096063

Replies: >>6096071 >>6096119

>>6095813
I'm saying why stop at 2 years? 2 will become 5 and 5 will inevitably become 10. You see where I'm going with this. Where does it stop? That is why you need to leave social security and medicare alone and stop paying for all of these tax cuts. No cuts to social services before trying to balance the revenue side first. Seems common sense to me. I'm glad you don't mind being a sheep led around by all of this "We're broke, we can't afford social security anymore, we are going to have to raise the retirement age.

How about raising the amount of income subject to social security tax from $110,000 to $250,000? That should pay for the next century of social security right there.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)11:33
No.6096071

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)11:33 No.6096071

Replies: >>6096165

>>6096063
>How about raising the amount of income subject to social security tax from $110,000 to $250,000? That should pay for the next century of social security right there.
Err... where'd you hear that?

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)11:36
No.6096119

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)11:36 No.6096119

Replies: >>6096238 >>6096435

>>6096063
slippery slope fallacy much?
it stops when it's solvent.

how much has life expectancy increased since the retirement age was set at 65?

i did raise social security taxes, why don't you play the game and see how well you can balance without any cuts at all to anything.

increased revenue alone isn't going to lower the debt or eliminate the deficit.

fucking buttmad pleb.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)11:39
No.6096165

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)11:39 No.6096165

Replies: >>6096194

>>6096071

As Paul Ryan would say "I don't know the math". But if somebody who is not as lazy as me would care to calculate we could see.

The point being, you don't have to cut, you can raise revenue to shore up social service programs.

But the popular talk right now is "cut this" "cut that" "flim flam" "shim sham". "cut cut cut cut cut" but don't cut the military because "muh freedum"

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)11:41
No.6096194

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)11:41 No.6096194

Replies: >>6096278

>>6096165
so you're attacking based on a strawman, despite that i said i raised taxes especially on cake eaters, and most of service i cut was cake eater crap?

or do you seriously not understand the term cake eater?

>implying i didn't make every single military cut offered in the game except veteran benefits

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)11:43
No.6096238

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)11:43 No.6096238

Replies: >>6096275 >>6096408

>>6096119

You are getting debt and deficit confused. Automatically discredited from knowing anything other than regurgitated myths.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)11:45
No.6096275

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)11:45 No.6096275

Replies: >>6096316

>>6096238
no, i'm not getting them confused at all.

the point of the game was to lower the debt.

eliminating the deficit can not be accomplished simply by increased taxes without cuts.

the only regurgitation here is that line about confusing them you just pulled.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)11:45
No.6096278

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)11:45 No.6096278

Replies: >>6096288

>>6096194

passive aggressive much

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)11:46
No.6096288

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)11:46 No.6096288

>>6096278
it's not passive aggression when i'm flat out calling you stupid.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)11:47
No.6096316

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)11:47 No.6096316

Replies: >>6096337

File: 1349797664456.jpg-(62 KB, 500x500, laughingbuddha.jpg)

>>6096275

>eliminating the deficit can not be accomplished simply by increased taxes without cuts.

Dream on.

Take in another trillion and congress will spend 2 trillion more.

The US doesn't have a tax revenue problem. It has a spending problem.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)11:49
No.6096337

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)11:49 No.6096337

Replies: >>6096352 >>6096448

>>6096316
it can't be accomplished with just cuts, either.

fuckin' maroon.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)11:49
No.6096352

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)11:49 No.6096352

Replies: >>6096361

>>6096337
that's not true at all. Cut all federal spending and the current tax revenue will MORE than compensate

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)11:50
No.6096361

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)11:50 No.6096361

Replies: >>6096403

>>6096352
>cut all federal spending
yeah, it can't be accomplished, so shut the fuck up.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)11:53
No.6096403

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)11:53 No.6096403

>>6096361
Then we'll just start with Big Bird...
He's a symbol of everything that's wrong!

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)11:54
No.6096408

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)11:54 No.6096408

Replies: >>6096435 >>6096442

>>6096238

I'm talking about increased revenue specifically related to social security not the entire budget. Raising the ceiling from 110,000 to 250,000 would certainly shore up social security for a long time without raising the retirement age or cutting benefits.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)11:55
No.6096435

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)11:55 No.6096435

>>6096408

was actually aimed at you >>6096119

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)11:56
No.6096442

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)11:56 No.6096442

Replies: >>6097073

>>6096408
it wouldn't really, to be sound through the retirement and death of the boomers you'd need to increase SS tax and retirement age.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)11:56
No.6096448

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)11:56 No.6096448

Replies: >>6096482 >>6096525

>>6096337

Of course it can.

What you really mean is, you don't want them to cut the things you like. You, and the tens of millions of people like you, are exactly why the US has a spending problem that will never be fixed.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)11:57
No.6096456

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)11:57 No.6096456

how about getting rid of all of the tax deductions to religions? If you look at land maps where I live, these churches are buying up 1000's of acres of land and they don't have to pay taxes on it. I imagine they turn around and sell it for a tidy tax free profit.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)11:59
No.6096482

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)11:59 No.6096482

Replies: >>6096512 >>6096606

>>6096448
no, it can't be done by things that are remotely realistically cuttable.

people like you with your refusal to compromise from an unattainable position are the reason the US has problems in general that'll never be fixed.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)12:02
No.6096512

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)12:02 No.6096512

Replies: >>6096574

>>6096482
Which is precisely why Paul Ryan is an asshole.

Speaking of which...

http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/150385/plucked

Your thoughts on this clip?

Anon
10/09/12(Tue)12:03
No.6096525

Anon 10/09/12(Tue)12:03 No.6096525

Replies: >>6096596

>>6096448

Romney went to Massachusetts claiming he wouldn't raise taxes and he when he got there he did take a cuts first approach but he ended up having to raise fees significantly and he closed loopholes.

He was criticized by conservatives for the fees hikes because while he claimed that the fees weren't as broad as taxes, there were some that disagreed that this applied to all of the fees he raised.

I think what one can learn when just looking at the way he governed, is that even he realized you can't just go into office and only cut taxes. You have to do something to raise revenue as well when the place you govern is having economic difficulties. It's irresponsible to do anything but.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)12:04
No.6096544

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)12:04 No.6096544

>>6094648 is not the spending problem!

No! It's the millions of hard working Americans that pay into social security their whole live and would like to see the benefits when they retire.

Quit blaming everyone else. The government fucked us and now they have us blaming each other. Where did all of the money that was in the social security "trust fund" go? They took our social security money and paid for other shit with it and now they want us to work longer and pay more in to make up for their losses.

Open you eyes sucka. You just went full retard.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)12:05
No.6096574

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)12:05 No.6096574

Replies: >>6096607 >>6096681

>>6096512
>http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/150385/plucked
southpark used to be good.
and it's weird to watch 2 libertarians bash ayn rand on national tv.

Anon
10/09/12(Tue)12:07
No.6096596

Anon 10/09/12(Tue)12:07 No.6096596

>>6096525

Oh, and just to clarify the point of sentence 2. He was criticized because the difference between some of the fees and a tax were superficial.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)12:08
No.6096606

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)12:08 No.6096606

Replies: >>6096623 >>6096665

>>6096482

I refuse to compromise.

So what spending are you willing to cut, Mr Compromiser?

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)12:08
No.6096607

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)12:08 No.6096607

Replies: >>6096618

>>6096574
They aren't libertarians.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)12:09
No.6096618

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)12:09 No.6096618

Replies: >>6096647

>>6096607
Closet democrats?

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)12:09
No.6096623

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)12:09 No.6096623

Replies: >>6098269

>>6096606
>I refuse to compromise.
Whats the point of negotiating then.

Politics is about compromise.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)12:10
No.6096647

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)12:10 No.6096647

>>6096618

Comedians. And like most americans they don't have a convenient label.

Obviously they are socially very liberal, but economically they aren't true libertarians. If you've listened to interviews, a lot of the libertarian stuff comes from the fact that they have a lot of libertarian friends.

Kind of like that they make fun of mormons a lot even though neither of them are/were mormons.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)12:11
No.6096665

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)12:11 No.6096665

>>6096606
military, numerous subsidies, increase SS/medicare age 2 years is about 60% of the deficit in cuts, asswipe.

refusing to compromise is why you're everything wrong with everything ever.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)12:13
No.6096675

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)12:13 No.6096675

Replies: >>6096698 >>6096801 >>6098607

File: 1349799181010.jpg-(66 KB, 720x588, 1346196769795.jpg)

The American way is socialist
Its the global elites and Jewish bankers that threaten the American way with their "free market" ideology which is just government assistance and collusion with the rich and nothing but exploitation of the American family.

the greatest generation were great because of the NewDeal, GI bill, and union manufacturing jobs.

Anon
10/09/12(Tue)12:13
No.6096681

Anon 10/09/12(Tue)12:13 No.6096681

Replies: >>6096701

>>6096574

Ayn Rand did not support the Libertarian Party in her day. In her interviews she explicitly calls them out. I believe she says something (either referring to them or conservatives) where she says she respected a Marxist more because they at least had principles, or something to that effect.

So seeing two libertarians bash her, to me, seems about right. I don't think they are as hardcore as most libertarians anyways. They call themselves very "middle of the road" at times and they mostly only seem libertarian when it comes to social issues.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)12:14
No.6096698

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)12:14 No.6096698

Replies: >>6096720 >>6096724 >>6096855

>>6096675
How common actually is it to see fat people in the US in scooters?

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)12:14
No.6096701

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)12:14 No.6096701

>>6096681
Ayn Rand kept getting perpetually pissed off at one group after another her entire life.
It had less to do with her "principles", than with her being a particularly insufferable cunt, even for a woman.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)12:15
No.6096720

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)12:15 No.6096720

Replies: >>6096727

>>6096698
It's... becoming pretty common.

http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/d4nqqv/doesnt-this-bother-you

↑
it's related. and it should bother you.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)12:16
No.6096724

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)12:16 No.6096724

>>6096698
fairly common.
any major grocery store will have 1 at any given time 24/7.
wallmart will literally have 6 or so scooting around.

outside those places not so much cause they don't do anything outside those places and their civil service jobs.

i know, i work civil service and it's all giant black women with wobbly arms larger than my head.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)12:16
No.6096727

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)12:16 No.6096727

Replies: >>6096735 >>6096907

>>6096720
actually.. the clip was too short. just watch the episode. it's pretty good.

In the end... the day is saved thanks to Michelle Obama and James Cameron.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)12:17
No.6096735

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)12:17 No.6096735

>>6096727
i can only skim episodes of southpark now, like the simpsons.

already skimmed that one.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)12:19
No.6096764

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)12:19 No.6096764

A South Park episode does not reality make.

Anon
10/09/12(Tue)12:19
No.6096768

Anon 10/09/12(Tue)12:19 No.6096768

Replies: >>6097171

Here it is:

Ayn Rand on Libertarisanism

"I could deal with a Marxist with a greater chance of reaching some kind of understanding, and with much greater respect."

http://www.aynrand.org/site/PageServer?pagename=education_campus_libertarians

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)12:21
No.6096801

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)12:21 No.6096801

>>6096675

That cartoon is awesome.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)12:24
No.6096855

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)12:24 No.6096855

Replies: >>6096893 >>6097149

>>6096698

I saw one at the grocery store yesterday. I pushed my cart into the aisle and I look up and see this great big fat lady in one of those scooters. She took up the whole aisle. I felt immediate disgust and revulsion, it was like seeing Baron Harkonned in the flesh except her scooter couldn't fly. I screamed internally and I turned my cart around and got the fuck out of that aisle.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)12:27
No.6096893

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)12:27 No.6096893

>>6096855
it's so much worse in the south, where an aisle can have like 2 or 3 at a time trying to maneuver around eachother while breathing heavily.

i'm disgustingly fat imo with just a jiggly belly and these people... ugh.

sage
10/09/12(Tue)12:27
No.6096907

sage 10/09/12(Tue)12:27 No.6096907

Replies: >>6097138

File: 1349800059910.png-(355 KB, 500x375, action_hank.png)

>>6096727
Michelle Obama only gave a shit once James Cameron did what James Cameron did, because he's James Cameron.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)12:36
No.6097073

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)12:36 No.6097073

Replies: >>6097177

>>6096442
Or the government can stop stealing our money out of the social security fund to pay for tax cuts. And then they turn around and say "We need to cut your social security benefits and raise the retirement age", and dumbasses like the one guy ITT buy it hook, line, and sinker.

He is getting robbed and he is defending the robbers! What a fool.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)12:40
No.6097138

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)12:40 No.6097138

>>6096907
Yeah, but she beat the crap out of Cartman and even for a TV show...
My god, that felt good to watch.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)12:41
No.6097149

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)12:41 No.6097149

>>6096855
Who's up for some SCOOTER TIPPING?

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)12:42
No.6097171

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)12:42 No.6097171

>>6096768
Yeah, sounds like she was acting like an insufferable cunt that needed to change her tampon

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)12:42
No.6097177

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)12:42 No.6097177

Replies: >>6097217 >>6097824 >>6097999

>>6097073
yes, we can go back in time and stop reagan form fucking things up, that'll certainly fix things now.

you're spouting unsustained emotional drivel that doesn't solve an actual problem.

the robbery already happened, probably before you were born, you can't just magic it away, you can prevent it from happening again but you still have to deal with having lost what you did.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)12:44
No.6097217

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)12:44 No.6097217

>>6097177

I know how to solve the problem..........tax cuts for everybody!!!!!

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)12:49
No.6097326

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)12:49 No.6097326

Replies: >>6097343

File: 1349801355031.gif-(11 KB, 384x256, Arkansas State Flag (1).gif)

Really Arkansas? Wow. Way to separate church and state!

State Rep. Loy Mauch (R-AR)

"If slavery were so God-awful, why didn’t Jesus or Paul condemn it, why was it in the Constitution and why wasn’t there a war before 1861?
The South has always stood by the Constitution and limited government. When one attacks the Confederate Battle Flag, he is certainly denouncing these principles of government as well as Christianity."

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)12:50
No.6097343

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)12:50 No.6097343

Replies: >>6097437

>>6097326
lol. when did he say that?

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)12:54
No.6097437

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)12:54 No.6097437

Replies: >>6097479

>>6097343
2009 I think.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)12:56
No.6097479

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)12:56 No.6097479

Replies: >>6097523

>>6097437
How far we've come.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)12:58
No.6097523

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)12:58 No.6097523

>>6097479

Yeah we're fucked.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)13:00
No.6097547

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)13:00 No.6097547

>>6093734
DEAR GOD NO!

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)13:08
No.6097774

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)13:08 No.6097774

>>6094755
i dont think anyone says we need to cut ALL defense spending. but do you think we should invest in building more nucluer arms? i mean, we dont even need the amount we have now. we dont need to be able to blow up the world 100x's over. whats the reasoning?

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)13:10
No.6097824

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)13:10 No.6097824

Replies: >>6097901 >>6098321

>>6097177

We can have the rich, who got the money from Reagan in the form of tax cuts, pay the money back to the social security fund. There fixed.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)13:14
No.6097901

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)13:14 No.6097901

Replies: >>6098321

>>6097824
raising their taxes is needed just to pay for everything else.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)13:16
No.6097945

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)13:16 No.6097945

Replies: >>6098031

File: 1349802993031.jpg-(226 KB, 640x960, 1348029667374.jpg)

>>6093699 (OP)

I am not going to do shit. I flat out tell my fellow conservatives this and they lose their fucking minds and start to view me as an enemy of America. The thing is though, they are the ones that have sold out and destroyed the country their entire lives. The right in this country is a bigger threat to the country than the left BECAUSE they have no fucking plan. They have totally lost the culture war at every single turn and have always bent themselves over to get ass raped by the left and the fake conservative politicians. There is no hope for America when the people who hate the way the country is going will NEVER do anything to reverse it or stop it. They will always bend over and take it up the pooper and pretend they made the right decision for America.

Abandon all hope America.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)13:19
No.6097999

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)13:19 No.6097999

>>6097177

the government is still putting surplus social security revenue into the general fund and spending it elsewhere.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)13:21
No.6098031

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)13:21 No.6098031

Replies: >>6098089 >>6098266

File: 1349803266448.jpg-(96 KB, 366x500, sarah palin derp idiot fa(...).jpg)

>>6097945
Whatever do you mean?

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)13:24
No.6098089

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)13:24 No.6098089

Replies: >>6098183

File: 1349803461757.jpg-(28 KB, 550x400, slide_10625_140474_large.jpg)

>>6098031

"Let me hear the momma grizzlies holla!" Okay, not let's have the hockey mom's raise the roof!"

Okay how about "I'm not a witch"

Here's your conservatives you fuckin' losers.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)13:26
No.6098145

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)13:26 No.6098145

File: 1349803619373.jpg-(79 KB, 750x600, sarah bristol palin bad f(...).jpg)

How FUCKED are we as a country that our Vice-presidential candidate's daughter got knocked up and gave birth to a bastard child while she was in HIGH SCHOOL??

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)13:28
No.6098183

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)13:28 No.6098183

Replies: >>6098223

>>6098089
She was cute. I actually really miss her. And I'm not even a conservative.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)13:30
No.6098223

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)13:30 No.6098223

>>6098183
I hope you're joking. But I'll bet you're not.

Let's vote for the cutest candidates. What are we in fucking high school?

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)13:32
No.6098266

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)13:32 No.6098266

File: 1349803974101.jpg-(87 KB, 400x579, 1348030343879.jpg)

>>6098031

I hope you like eating a hope dick because that is what the fake conservative politicians are going to give america again. They have sold out america for decades and the people are too stupid to notice.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)13:33
No.6098269

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)13:33 No.6098269

>>6096623

So what spending are you willing to compromise on?

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)13:34
No.6098294

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)13:34 No.6098294

Replies: >>6098324 >>6098341

sesame street does fine. they sell merchandize. they don't need government help.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)13:35
No.6098321

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)13:35 No.6098321

Replies: >>6098363 >>6098464 >>6098584

>>6097824
>>6097901

Tax them at 100% and it still won't even come close to paying for your unfunded liabilities.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)13:35
No.6098324

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)13:35 No.6098324

Replies: >>6098436

>>6098294
I think it's more a matter of misplaced priorities.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)13:35
No.6098341

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)13:35 No.6098341

>>6098294

But Billionaires need our help if they are going to give us jobs. That is why we need to get rid of social security to pay for tax cuts for them.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)13:37
No.6098363

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)13:37 No.6098363

Replies: >>6098553

>>6098321
THEIR unfunded liabilities, not ours.

Not even a good attempt sir.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)13:40
No.6098436

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)13:40 No.6098436

Replies: >>6098502

File: 1349804452939.png-(56 KB, 1406x482, ScreenHunter_10 Oct. 09 13.39.png)

>>6098324
Hmmm. I guess Romney wouldn't be in a position to threaten Big Bird's job after all.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)13:42
No.6098464

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)13:42 No.6098464

>>6098321
not good at following the thread, are you.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)13:43
No.6098502

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)13:43 No.6098502

>>6098436
big bird doesn't rely on government funding, the rest of PBS does.

and it's a miniscule amount to make it a non issue to distract from their constant desire to increase military spending.

cutting big bird is meaningless when you spend 100 times as much as you cut on new shiny war machines we don't use.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)13:46
No.6098553

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)13:46 No.6098553

Replies: >>6098646

>>6098363

Theirs? Oh, so you've been voting for people who were going to cut spending. Good for you.

RedAgent
10/09/12(Tue)13:47
No.6098574

RedAgent 10/09/12(Tue)13:47 No.6098574

Replies: >>6098590

File: 1349804825181.jpg-(61 KB, 295x319, lel.jpg)

>democrates
>socialist

AHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHA THEIR COWARDICE CAPITALIST LIBERAL SCUM AND ANTI-GUN

Opposite of a socialist.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)13:47
No.6098584

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)13:47 No.6098584

Replies: >>6098838

>>6098321
except i played the linked game and actually lowered the debt to 58% of GDP by 2020 while keeping SS and medicare in existence.

faggot.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)13:47
No.6098590

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)13:47 No.6098590

Replies: >>6098889

>>6098574
Hmmm. Nope.
I think they're mostly anti-gun in Sweden, Canada, and England. Japan too.

RedAgent
10/09/12(Tue)13:49
No.6098607

RedAgent 10/09/12(Tue)13:49 No.6098607

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>>6096675
sooooo much thisss it hurts.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)13:51
No.6098646

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)13:51 No.6098646

Replies: >>6098796

>>6098553
Have you taken any bath salts today? I'm having a real hard time understanding what the fuck are talking about.

lrn to communicate

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)13:59
No.6098796

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)13:59 No.6098796

Replies: >>6098922

>>6098646

They're your unfunded liabilities. You voted for the people who created them, expanded them, and refuse to do anything about them. Your solutions for them are laughable.

You are part of the problem.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)14:01
No.6098838

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)14:01 No.6098838

Replies: >>6098879

>>6098584
The hard part for me was when I increased veterans benefits and highway funding. That fucked me.

I mean these boys go over there and get all fucked up "for murrika and freeduhm" and then they come back and the same politicians that sent them over there want to cut veterans benefits. Talk about some fucking assholes!

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)14:02
No.6098879

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)14:02 No.6098879

Replies: >>6098957

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>>6098838

Always with the veterans.

RedAgent
10/09/12(Tue)14:02
No.6098889

RedAgent 10/09/12(Tue)14:02 No.6098889

Replies: >>6098981 >>6099017 >>6099041 >>6099250

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>>6098590
None of those countries are socialist.The Swedish government is actually centre right-wing and Canada's government is VERY right wing,do you even read up on these things or just assume they are socialist because of affordable/free healthcare. having free healthcare does not make a country socialist,such a thought is very simple minded. England really? their a bunch of liberal statists. Wait did you just call japan socialist? Dear God i hope your trolling they are the epitome of capitalism. Where as an actual socialist nation like Vietnam has a very large gun market.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)14:04
No.6098922

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)14:04 No.6098922

Replies: >>6099499

>>6098796

You are part of the Herp Derp. Which unfunded liabilities are you referring to exactly? And, the candidates that I vote for never win office., so you can suck a fart out of my ass.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)14:06
No.6098957

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)14:06 No.6098957

Replies: >>6099061

>>6098879
You don't think it's fucked up that these guys with no arms and legs are getting shit on by the government? You sir, are not a gentleman or a scholar.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)14:07
No.6098981

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)14:07 No.6098981

Replies: >>6099041

>>6098889

I stopped reading at "The Swedish". That's how many fucks were given.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)14:09
No.6099017

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)14:09 No.6099017

Replies: >>6099378 >>6099560 >>6099602 >>6099695

>>6098889
>having free healthcare does not make a country socialist
Nope.
That's pretty much the all-or-nothing criteria.

Central healthcare = socialism.

That's pretty much what everyone else thinks too.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)14:10
No.6099041

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)14:10 No.6099041

Replies: >>6099499

>>6098889
↓ see? that just shows you that's what everyone thinks is the basis for the definition.
>>6098981

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)14:11
No.6099061

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)14:11 No.6099061

Replies: >>6099188

>>6098957
Lol. He was trolling.
He put in a 120year old political cartoon from a time when the government was trying to GET RID of a surplus.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)14:16
No.6099164

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)14:16 No.6099164

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZxs09eV-Vc

It gets good at the 0:09 second mark.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)14:16
No.6099173

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)14:16 No.6099173

Replies: >>6099207

>>6094591
that's not 40K you faggot, that is Battletech!

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)14:17
No.6099188

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)14:17 No.6099188

>>6099061

Trying to get rid of? I guess that's one way to look at it.

I prefer to think of it as nearly bankrupting the country by throwing money at veterans. Of course, that's a republican for you.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)14:17
No.6099197

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)14:17 No.6099197

HOLY FUCK.

They finally went completely insane at FOXNews:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-october-8-2012/children-s-television-chop-shop---this-week-wit
h-george-snuffleupagus

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)14:18
No.6099207

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)14:18 No.6099207

>>6099173
Lol. Yeah, I know. It pisses people off even more when they see that's what I named the file.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)14:18
No.6099208

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)14:18 No.6099208

>>6093699 (OP)
I dunno they just told Obama to STUFF it today.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)14:19
No.6099250

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)14:19 No.6099250

Replies: >>6099499

>>6098889
last time i checked vietnam was a communist country. who do you think is more socialist, Canada or china?

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)14:22
No.6099306

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)14:22 No.6099306

Replies: >>6099343

>>6094433
Actually, while being for PBS subsidies (because of NPR), something like 79% of the country has some form of cable programming.

>>6094238
But you sir, are a prick. How do you get to those libraries? Maybe you don't have a car, or the buses don't run that way. We don't need to be parking more kids in front of screens. That's how you get Amerifats. But if they ARE going to be in front of screens, let it be educational. Also, nick jr only recently improved, and is still not *that* great.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)14:24
No.6099343

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)14:24 No.6099343

Replies: >>6099451

>>6099306
>pbs is multiculti!
>nickjr and dora the explorer are great!

srs?

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)14:25
No.6099378

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)14:25 No.6099378

>>6099017

its fine if people want to believe that, but thats not even remotely close to what socialism is or meets the criteria for making a country socialist

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)14:26
No.6099390

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)14:26 No.6099390

>>6094688
>Your
>Duplicative redubnant

Yeah, you know a lot about how we should spend public education dollars, being so educated right?

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)14:29
No.6099451

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)14:29 No.6099451

Replies: >>6099494

>>6099343
I'm not who you think you're responding to. PBS is obviously multiculti. And those benefitting from public broadcasting the most would be the poor and minorities. So multiculti isn't a bad message when they have their own factions screaming domination. Jackass.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)14:31
No.6099494

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)14:31 No.6099494

Replies: >>6099548

>>6099451
but nickjr is like, teaching kids fucking spanish, it's way more multiculti.

RedAgent
10/09/12(Tue)14:31
No.6099499

RedAgent 10/09/12(Tue)14:31 No.6099499

Replies: >>6099539

>>6098922
Okay be immature about it, typical

>>6099250
There has never been a communist country. In communism there is no state. I do not know to much about the current Chinese corporatist government so i wouldn't know. I am not going to make assumptions about it because I am not a moron.

>>6099041
I know right? It just shows what blind drones these people are.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)14:32
No.6099539

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)14:32 No.6099539

Replies: >>6099633

>>6099499
>just shows what blind drones these people are.
it's what most people in the USA believe, too.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)14:33
No.6099548

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)14:33 No.6099548

Replies: >>6099648

>>6099494
And Sesame Street didn't teach basic spanish for thirty years before? I live in the South. We have to take a language to graduate. Most people take Spanish. From seventh and eighth grade all the way to graduation, you can take spanish, and pretty much have to in seventh and eighth for lack of options. They still come out like dumbfucks, forgetting the whole language in like 3 years for lack of use. Teaching Americans foreign languages is like throwing your money away.

RedAgent
10/09/12(Tue)14:33
No.6099560

RedAgent 10/09/12(Tue)14:33 No.6099560

Replies: >>6099714 >>6099754

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>>6099017
With all do respect, There is no way you are this dense, maybe you just don't care enough?

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)14:35
No.6099602

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)14:35 No.6099602

Replies: >>6099660 >>6099714 >>6099754

>>6099017
0/10 or fucktard/10

either way, cant tell if ignorant or troll

RedAgent
10/09/12(Tue)14:37
No.6099633

RedAgent 10/09/12(Tue)14:37 No.6099633

Replies: >>6099754

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>>6099539
As an American I do know this very well unfortunately. I'm Trying not to lose faith but the liberals and conservatives are fucking things up so bad.

MFW people think socialism is inherently big government

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)14:37
No.6099648

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)14:37 No.6099648

>>6099548
>I live in the South. We have to take a language to graduate.
That applies to EVERY school in the USA.
And it wasn't completely useless.
Even after all these years... you still remember at least a pinch of Spanish sufficient that you can get the gist of simple signs.

RedAgent
10/09/12(Tue)14:38
No.6099660

RedAgent 10/09/12(Tue)14:38 No.6099660

Replies: >>6099754

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>>6099602
I think i might have to agree

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)14:39
No.6099695

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)14:39 No.6099695

Replies: >>6099754

>>6099017
1/10

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)14:40
No.6099714

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)14:40 No.6099714

Replies: >>6099764 >>6099838

>>6099560
>>6099602

Nope. That's really all it comes down to.

Canada, Sweden, Germany, U.Kingdom all openly hold themselves out to the world as being Socialist.

Their most notorious common-thread? Centralized governmental healthcare.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)14:41
No.6099754

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)14:41 No.6099754

Replies: >>6099809 >>6099963 >>6100837

>>6099695
>>6099660
>>6099633
>>6099602
>>6099560

Lol. Alright, my enlightened conservative friends...

What do YOU think is the critiera for determining whether a country is socialist or not?

>in b4 you try to classify full-tilt countries like North Korea (which the rest of the world call Communist) as being "Socialist"

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)14:42
No.6099764

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)14:42 No.6099764

Replies: >>6099825

>>6099714

so explain to me how the workers own the means to production in those countries

face it, all those countries operate in mixed economies taking aspects of both capitalism and socialism

call yourself whatever you want, that doesn't make it true; national socialism, democratic peoples republic, what the fuck ever

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)14:44
No.6099809

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)14:44 No.6099809

>>6099754
>NK
>communist
1/10

>national healthcare
>socialist
2/10

>me
>conservative
0/10

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)14:44
No.6099825

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)14:44 No.6099825

Replies: >>6099868 >>6099877 >>6099993

>>6099764
>so explain to me how the workers own the means to production in those countries
Easy. We usually don't call those countries Socialist. We use the term "Communist."

Also... whenever you use the term "national socialism"...
you're pretty much putting on a hat for the entire world to see:
"I AM A RIGHT-WING LUNATIC THAT IS SO VIRULENTLY OPPOSED TO LIBERALS THAT I'LL GO TO ANY LENGTH TO DERIDE ALL OF HISTORY'S VILLAINS AS BEING LIBERALS INCLUDING THE NAZIS AND HITLER!!"

RedAgent
10/09/12(Tue)14:45
No.6099838

RedAgent 10/09/12(Tue)14:45 No.6099838

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>>6099714
You know i might say you have a point If the Canadian government WAS NOT right wing.

please give me a source where it says what you claim.

Good troll.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)14:46
No.6099868

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)14:46 No.6099868

>>6099825
>workers control the means of production
>>We use the term "Communist."
You don't know your shit.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)14:47
No.6099877

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)14:47 No.6099877

Replies: >>6099993 >>6100014

>>6099825

i'm confused, you call them communist?

so you know that definition is incorrect but continue to use it?

none of the countries that were listed above are even remotely communist and barely socialist as it is

RedAgent
10/09/12(Tue)14:51
No.6099963

RedAgent 10/09/12(Tue)14:51 No.6099963

Replies: >>6100158

>>6099754
> conservative

I am a red star loving Libertarian Socialist

RedAgent
10/09/12(Tue)14:52
No.6099993

RedAgent 10/09/12(Tue)14:52 No.6099993

Replies: >>6100014

>>6099877
>>6099825

Communism=a stateless society

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)14:53
No.6100014

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)14:53 No.6100014

Replies: >>6100078 >>6100123

>>6099877
>so you know that definition is incorrect but continue to use it?
YEP!!!!!

And you know damn well that all of these 'labels' are horribly imprecise.
If anything... virtually every economy on Earth is a mixed-system to one degree or another.

BUT...

the Americans do have a pretty simple and USEFUL nomenclature.

*Capitalism is on the right end... with USA being maybe the only true member, due to it lacking centralized governmental healthcare.
*Socialism is in the center... with almost all of the industrialized countries sitting here due to having centralized governmental healthcare BUT with each of them possibly being closer to the right end or left end than the others.
*Communism on the left end... with North Korea, Vietnam, Bengal, China, and some of the former Soviet Republics being here... but this has changed a lot in recent years.

Why is it useful?

Because it distinguishes the Americans as being very unique compared to the rest of the West, and because it puts the Communists in a league of their own.


>>6099993
Yeah.... that's not how we use the nomenclature. Apologies to Marx and Engels.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)14:56
No.6100078

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)14:56 No.6100078

Replies: >>6100138

>>6100014
>Because it distinguishes the Americans as being very unique compared to the rest of the West
Uniquely idiotic.

You're gonna vote for Goldman Sachs and you're gonna like it!
10/09/12(Tue)14:58
No.6100115

You're gonna vote for Goldman Sachs and you're gonna like it! 10/09/12(Tue)14:58 No.6100115

I cant believe the Obama campaign is showing Romney's obsession with Big Bird. I know is parody and all, but we know that Romney is an idiot, so it's unnecessary.

RedAgent
10/09/12(Tue)14:58
No.6100123

RedAgent 10/09/12(Tue)14:58 No.6100123

>>6100014
Welp im voteing for Romney. He starts WW3 and the west gets a restart button, If i'm lucky I live through it and try to correct these weird nomenclatures Aha im kidding......

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)14:58
No.6100138

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)14:58 No.6100138

Replies: >>6100171

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>>6100078
Yep. :)

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)14:59
No.6100158

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)14:59 No.6100158

Replies: >>6100288 >>6100461

>>6099963
>I am a red star loving Libertarian Socialist
k...
that sounds like an oxymoron, but,
care to elaborate on what that is?

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)15:00
No.6100171

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)15:00 No.6100171

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>>6100138

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)15:00
No.6100181

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)15:00 No.6100181

Replies: >>6100242

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>We'll outsource all our jobs to china and then realize we're fucked!

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)15:03
No.6100242

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)15:03 No.6100242

>>6100181
Yeah, yeah... end of history and all that.
Of course I know what "Communism" might mean to the academics...
but that's just not how it's used in day-to-day matters.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)15:05
No.6100288

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)15:05 No.6100288

Replies: >>6100492 >>6100596

>>6100158
Anon probably (correctly) defines libertarian as an advocate of individual free will and socialist as supporting collectively controlled means of production (likely through workers cooperatives).

RedAgent
10/09/12(Tue)15:11
No.6100461

RedAgent 10/09/12(Tue)15:11 No.6100461

Replies: >>6100538

>>6100158
the red star loving part just means that If America become socialist I would want a red star put on the flag/military symbols and what not. Libertarian Socialist as in small government socialism ITT: I'm against statism and the government regulations the Obama administration implemented, like the ones for BUILDING YOUR OWN HOUSE. I am for a few of the government agencies being disbanded. mixed market. that....Call me retarded or idiotic if you want.

RedAgent
10/09/12(Tue)15:13
No.6100492

RedAgent 10/09/12(Tue)15:13 No.6100492

>>6100288
Yes,exactly.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)15:15
No.6100538

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)15:15 No.6100538

Replies: >>6100629

>>6100461
You're only retarded for your namefaggotry.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)15:17
No.6100596

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)15:17 No.6100596

Replies: >>6100625 >>6100690

>>6100288
Yeah... we just call that "liberal."

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)15:19
No.6100625

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)15:19 No.6100625

Replies: >>6100690 >>6100746

>>6100596
>supporting individual liberties
>liberal
Not in America, buddy.

RedAgent
10/09/12(Tue)15:19
No.6100629

RedAgent 10/09/12(Tue)15:19 No.6100629

>>6100538
ahahahaha i actually laughed anon and yes I figured as much

RedAgent
10/09/12(Tue)15:21
No.6100690

RedAgent 10/09/12(Tue)15:21 No.6100690

Replies: >>6100822

>>6100625
this

>>6100596
Are you kidding? I also approve gun ownership with very little regulation. The Czech Republic has zero firearm regulation and there is almost zero gun violence.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)15:21
No.6100699

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)15:21 No.6100699

Replies: >>6100849

You know what this outrage really is?

Liberals demanding that government and television raise their children for them.

"Bawwww, if you take away Sesame Street, my kids won't learn the alphabet or basic math, they'll grow up to be retards! (Just like how, without ultrapowerful unions, we'd all be literally enslaved by big companies overnight.)"

"Why don't you teach your kids the alphabet and basic arithmetic yourself?"

"No time, gotta hit Starbucks before I head to the protest. Consuela will make sure PBS is turned on though, if that EVIL Mitt Romney doesn't kill it!"

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)15:23
No.6100746

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)15:23 No.6100746

Replies: >>6100967 >>6101060

>>6100625
>supporting individual liberties
Go eat shit, my deluded friend.

The liberals are the ones advocating against racial, religious, sexual-orientation discrimination...
advocating against censorship in books and media...
advocating for adequate legal representation for the accused...
advocating for criminal justice that emphasizes rehabilitation over retribution...
and yes...
advocating for the right to get an ABORTION.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)15:26
No.6100822

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)15:26 No.6100822

>>6100690
Admittedly... the "dividing line" isn't perfect. And gun-control might be a good example of where it isn't perfect.

But as regards CIVIL freedoms (as distinguished from ECONOMIC freedoms)... the liberals usually seek to confer more leeway.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)15:26
No.6100837

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)15:26 No.6100837

Replies: >>6100867 >>6101092

>>6099754
I'm a registered Democrat, and the reason we all think you're trolling is because no one is POSSIBLY this fucking retarded.

But thanks for hammering it in that you actually are

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)15:27
No.6100849

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)15:27 No.6100849

Replies: >>6100888

>>6100699
Lol. I have a sinking suspicion that liberals in the upper-tax brackets would be more empirically apt to spend time reading to their kids and teaching them math than their conservative counter-parts.

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)15:28
No.6100867

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)15:28 No.6100867

>>6100837
lol... you gonna name-call or give me that criteria i asked for, "democrat"?

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)15:29
No.6100888

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)15:29 No.6100888

Replies: >>6100933

>>6100849
>I have this suspicion that people I like are good and honest and true and that the people I don't like are assholes and you're wrong

YOU DON'T SAY?!

Anonymous
10/09/12(Tue)15:30
No.6100933

Anonymous 10/09/12(Tue)15:30 No.6100933

Replies: >>6100984 >>6101162

>>6100888
How many Republicans do you know that volunteer at the soup kitchen?