have fun in the gulag OP just remember to bring a mosin nagant to help fight back.

>Liberals in russia
No thanks. Even the retarded slavic neo-nazis(hitler would laugh so hard) have better policies than you.

lol Enjoy your ass beating.
The only way toward freedom is to follow the way of the Chechens

its written the Duma
and idk ive seen it mentioned that there are riots in russia but not really much on what theyre about just protesting the elections, what specifically is it that you are protesting? like what unfairness?

I heard about
>hundreds of falcifications. All of them to make the ruling party... take the majority of the sits to themselves again.
but not
>10000 people gathering on a civil meeting in Moscow the next day after the Parliament Elections on the 5th of December. Or that it was treated by the Police as a riot - people beaten with riot shields and night sticks, a group of especially active liberal bloggers arrested along with about 300 other people.

What does this mean?

I am completely unsurprised by what is currently occuring in Russia.

>>581369

moist nugget

>>581398
You are worse than Hitler if you support Единая Россия

I understand Putin is incredibly powerful over there, the image i've always seen of him has been positive. Obviously thanks to media being his friend and that sort of thing.

Though I want to know more specifically, what has he done that is so terrible?

Many of us here are not in the know so we'd need something a bit more detailed.

Though I saw videos last night of activists finding ballot boxes stuffed with ballots before voting started and of counters falsifying papers as well.

>>581398
"You're worse than Hitler, United Russia"

lol still think america is a fascistvpolice state?

United Russia was forming groups with falcified voting slips, the urns were half full of votes for UR before the voting started and so on.

>>581398

you are worse than hitler you cursed/damned united-russian.

>>581359

>"Fucking Russia"

its "Fuked Russia"

>>581398
"im so angry i made a sign"

I think the Russian people deserve at least a shitty two-party system instead one corrupt and criminal party which can't make progress any longer.

>>581426
This is an answer to >>581392

wait a second..

I have seen spots on television and heard it brought up on AM radio, but it's not really major gossip stateside yet from all I've seen.

Putin isn't the right guy but I haven't a clue who is.

There are no protests in Russia, it's all propaganda by western CIA.

Stop lying you rat

>>581473
Sometimes I feel like the most retarded idiots spend all of their time on /pol/

Poster is lying

Everything is normal in Russia, I live in moscow. There are no protests. All media lies by western media.

>>581412
People are not very excited to see him omnipresent behind Medvedev (current president) back considering Medvedev was his protege from the beggining. Also they are going to switch being PM and President again. And seeing how the rigged the parliament elections and are getting away with this - this is frightening. Also what results have we got from him and his faggot boyfriend? Nothing, the corruption is stronger than ever etc etc

I just want a fair election and as it is we are stuck with those two bastards forever.

Delete this thread now.
Traiter telling lies about Putin

Putin is loved by all Russians. Rat

>>581501

You know what must be done.

DELETE THIS THREAD
ALL LIES

Hey OP, quick question, do you support Навального?

All I know about your elections is that Putin is running for President again (trying to replace his hand-picked successor, Medvedev) and the most recent elections dealt his party a hard blow, leading many to question his ability to win that election.

Something about people being fed up with the way he's run government (by force).

Russia is seriously fucked

>>581501
The elections were more or less fair. The info about them being staged is a well-made provocation.
And fuck off, I'm russian and I think Putin is the way to go right now.

Putin is leader of all Russians

I thought Russians liked to suffer?

>>581523
I do not read his blog but I support democracy in general and his movement is at least informing and encouraging people to stand for their future and what freedoms they have left.

>>581557
I bet you also support the liberation of Libya, Egypt, Iraq and the upcoming war with Iran.

>>581572
I couldn't give less of a fuck about sand niggers killing each other, but I don't see anything like this happening in Russia at least for now.

>>581359

I've heard of massive fraud and corruption in your elections with the purpose of bringing Putin back.

You have my sympathy, but to be honest we've got enough political troubles of our own to worry about.

Best of luck to you.

Surprisingly, now the US's government and ruling is more corrupt than russia's, due to capitalism

its like the opposite of when the Soviet Union existed

>>581610
jesus dude
you have absolutely no idea about the russian government

>>581592
So you don't see how america has basically staged civil wars in several of those countries,and put a pro-american government there, just like it did with Ukrane and how now it tries to do the same with russia?

Yeah, it's been in the news over here...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16084743
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/08/russia-elections-vladimir_n_1136029.html?ref=world
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/12/07/world/europe/russia-protests/index.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/gallery/2011/dec/06/russia-protests-rallies-elections

Glad Russia is finally trying to into a real democracy.

OP, I can sympathize with you, but not supporting United Russia means letting the second largest party, the Communist Party, take power.

You do remember about the 65+ million mostly Christian men, women, and children murdered by the Bolshevik Jew regime, yes? How can you want a return of that?

>>581689
People simply won't let the communists come to power. If it happens, a civil war will start, I'm sure of it.

Rational people vote for the Apple

>>581689
As we can see United Russia is going to fight for it's place under the sun with at least that much fervour.I just want someone to represent people's interests in parliament.

>>581643
...what?

I know we throw up dictators but nobody in America would touch Russia with a thousand mile pole.

>>581689
Don't worry, the third largest party are pretty much the Slavo-Nazis, run by the self hating Jew in denial Zhirinovsky

>>581689

>Bolshevik Jew regime, yes?

Have you ever read a history book?

>>581722
Cant wait for the slavic nazis to take power. And they will.

>>581721
You would think. Some of the protests are being sponsored from the outside.
"Want easy money? Here's your 100$ now go in there and shout". I'm not saying all of them are like that, just some.
And of course america doesn't do it openly, it won't send military or anything. But there is a lot of disinformation concerning the events, like the Fox news incident.

I like how most of minorities in Russia in internet magically becomes majorities.
One visiting ru zone of web may even think that Russia consists only of vegans, homosexuals and liberals. While all of them are less than 1% of actual population.

>>581722
Only old people vote for him, they think he's cute, and funny.

Well, you can blame America all you want, just as long as you can kill most of our congressmen and let Ron Paul be our president.

Bulgaria bro here.Listen to your emperor you russian pseudo-liberal and work for him till we all go nazi mode and then the world will be saved

Cry some more.
The smaller the dog, the louder it barks.
You've got your 3 percent in the elections.

Russian guy, my ass!

Well, that sucks for you, Russia. I've not heard anything about it in America, our news is to busy trying to hide our own protestors getting beating by talking about Kim Kardashian or whatever celebrity bullshit is in the spotlight this week.

My advice for you is to get the fuck outta Russia. I mean, seriously, it has always been an awful place to be if you're just a regular motherfucker, from the days of the tsars, to communist times, to whatever the fuck you are now. Fucking living in Mongolia would probably be better... no it would definitely be better, fucking young Mongolians chicks, herding goats and yaks, being a pastoral nomad, fuck yeah awesome life. Let's all go to Mongolia!

>>581875
You've clearly never been to Mongolia.

>>581359

10,000 ? There wasn't even a thousand. I live nearby.
And that's Moscow.
This means less than a hundred protesters in the city like Yekaterinburg. And about a dozen in any other town.
Get over it, you right wing guys lie even more than the government. Probably that's why no one likes you.

OP is a faggot and probably not even in Russia, but working out of some unmarked building in a commercial district somewhere in the Washington DC region, pumping out material to further the foreign policy goals of a certain country.

>>581957
http://martin-sqare.livejournal.com/154263.html#cutid1

how about that?

>>581957
lol yeah I wish. I would move to any fucking where else except I would have to live under a bringe working at McDonalds so I would pass.

>>581917
I thought so as well but it seems shit is going to hit the fan fairly soon.

>>581851
United Russia got barely less than a half of the votes. 50% of those who wasn't lazy enough to go and vote aren't happy with Putin so yeah, fuck off

>>582045
in soviet russia hippies oppress cops

The protests are the beginning of an American coup attempt. The US CIA and State Department are manufacturing dissent and arming the rebels with rhetoric. There are people in every society who will come out to bitch about anything if someone gives them the chance. The next step is to provoke violence. We can expect American covert forces to launch a false flag attack on the fake protests. The end goal is to destroy Russia and turn it into just another American vassal state.

>>582331
i love how only the russians believe the CIA is competent

The thing about russia is...

the rest of us don't give a shit. russians in our mind will solve all of their own problems. i mean you guys are fucking pro at revolutions, just start another one.

>>581359
>>581359

What are your demands OP?

Is there another political leader/party in Russia that could do a better job than Putin?

Or are you simply protesting for the unfair elections?

Please tell us more.

I've read statistics about who are the strongest supporters of United Russia. The younger the electorate gets the more support the party gets, which is insane for any democratic process. For some reason young people actually vote in Russia, or at least that's what the statistics say.

Also because of this trend, it's likely to suspect that Putin isn't going anywhere anytime soon. He only gains more support as the years go by.

>>582452
What was the source of this information? United Russia?

>>582477
Boris Nemtsov, the co-founder to Union of Right Forces, an opposition party to United Russia.

>It is tragic that the next generation is lost to our struggle. I naively thought that our children would be more freedom-loving than us, but that is not the way it turned out. Surveys show that it is young people under 25 who are the most loyal to the regime. This is a generation that grew up watching Putin's TV networks; it is deeply cynical and pragmatic. This is mostly a generation of kleptocrats and parasites looking to buy patronage and protection. They dream of getting close to the state budget, to live and steal more easily. Organizations like Nashi [the United Russia youth party] are built on a myth of upward social mobility: acting like a spineless lackey is supposedly a guarantee of material success. Young people will do anything to make money and have a career, but they are not ready to join a fight, if they do not know when they can collect their winnings.

>>582413
Basically we want a fair election, that is all.

>>582452
You can vote once you're 18 which is pretty much like everywhere else. But United Russia organizes activities and rallies for teens to win them over and recruit them as a supporter. Or they would just relieve college or high school students from studies and use them without any previous propaganda work. And since they can't actually vote UR would use them as a show - give a high schooler or a freshman at college 10 bucks and ship 200 of those to the location, give them props (last thing the came up with were fucking drums). Here you go, there's you instant politically active youth who support UR.

>>582600
>>582600
>Basically we want a fair election

WTF does that mean?

What if the leader/party that gets elected is worse?
You need to be more specific.
Talk to us a little about Putin's policies and the policies of the opposition.

Also, do not forget that Bush also stole the elections and the Americans took it up the ass like whores. What makes you think you stand a chance against Putin?

>>583014

>>583014
What the fuck do you think it means? I want to see the percentage of people who really want to see more of United Russia presence in Duma and not an accumulated number of those and fake votes that UR managed to get themselves. This is all. Is that fucking unreasonable? I voted for communist party just because I knew it was going to get a lot of voices (more or less - I would expect UR do 40% without any dirty tricks) and the communist delegates are sure to make some noise when UR comes up with some ridiculous new law.

Run this shit through google translate )(all makes sense except Hilary Clinton called the election unfair (tranlated as "fair") bla bla bla who cares
http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/2011/12/08_a_3919078.shtml

This is the kind of shit laws I don't want to face if we are to have another 5 years of UR just oblitirating any opposition and doing whatever they want.

Also we are not yet talking about president election - but I think it's just important to have a party with an alternative opinion and a presence that would actually matter.

I lost my trip cuz I originally posted from work but who cares

Protester here.

I was captured at 20:30 near the "Чистые Пруды" (Clear Ponds, region in the center of Moscow, where the meeting against unfair elections have happened").

There were 22 guys, one of them was New York Times emploee lol. He showed his ID and police let him go.

Rest of us were arrested for 48 hours. First ~12 we spent in cage, 13 people in bigger, 9 people in smaller. Without water or food, until our lawyers arrived... but in other police stations, people hadn't even seen their lawyer, water or food. It is torture.

And about elections. It was unfair from the start, coz most of political patries hadn't acess to. From the ultra-left ("Another Russia), to moderate nazis (National-Democraic Alliance), more then 10 parties hadn't any chances to take their part in elections.

Communists' meeting gathered 300 people. Our meeting gathered ~7000 people)

In the real fair elections, noone would clearly "win".

Sorry for my english, haven't practiced so much.

>>583666

23, sorry. 22 russian guys and American. He was really nice.

America being America. They aren't strong enough to invade you militarily so they invade with propaganda.

Hope you don't fall for it again. Remember the last 20 years.

>>583696
Our current goverment is pro-American. Some of protesters want to unite with Euro-Union, some of them want only to defeat completely corrupted goverment, some of them are dreaming about Great Russian Empire.

>>583696
Hey, out own Putin is sure not making it easy for us. So it's either take one up our collective ass from him or see if we can escape being made another Ukraine or Georgia and still stand for our fucking free will.

So how long until some lone wolf assassinates Putin?

So OP, do you support Putin?

Why don't you start a riot, get rid of all the corrupt government and the mafia?

Also why are you so obsessed with bears?

>>583748
I don't support Putin and his party. But I wouldn't want a riot in which the whole government is overthrown to destabilize the country.

And about bears - it's a fucking logo, should be a symbol of nation or whatever. Here, have another.

>>583748

Bear is logo of "United Russia". Bears here are caricature, created by activists (Navalny's supporters, Solidarity's members, lone haters)

>Voting for UR
>Thinking that making Putin into a dictator of Russia is a good idea

ISHYGDDT

Even at "only" 45% of the vote, if you add the LDP, United Russia are virtually guarunteed a majority

Even excluding irregularities, United Russia are certainly a lot more popular than the other parties. Putin is the strongman, and in Russia the strongman is all that really matters. As there is no other important presidential candidate except his own protege, any party without his support will very likely fail to gain much support

And don't forget the alternative is literally communism, or Fair Russia (each around 13%). Yabloko (Liberals) manage only 4%

>Thinking Putin is a good guy

http://www.kavkazcenter.com/eng/content/2009/09/06/10979.shtml

>One of the odder footnotes to the whole affair was a statement that Gennady Seleznyov, the Speaker of the Duma, had made on the floor of Parliament on the morning of September 13, 01999. I have just received a report, he had announced to legislators. An apartment building in the city of Volgodonsk was blown up last night.

>While Seleznyov got the basics right - an apartment building had indeed just been blown up - he had the wrong city; the blast that morning had been at 6/3 Kashirskoye Highway in Moscow. Which put the Speaker in kind of an awkward spot when an apartment building in Volgodonsk was blown up three days later. At least one Duma member found that puzzling.

>Mr. Speaker, please explain, he had asked Seleznyov on the Parliament floor, how come you told us on Monday about the blast that occurred on Thursday?

>In lieu of an answer, the questioner had his microphone quickly cut off.

Why do people still try to act like he's a good person?

>>583716
You underhanded traitorous coward.

>>583860

Yabloko ("Apple" lol) have at least twice more, most of votes were stealed from Apple and Fair Russia. So real rating of UR, as observes said, 5-17%. It is significat, but they need many alliances to keep the ruling.

>>583813

What about the mafia? I know a Turkmen woman and she says that if you live in Russia and own an extremely small business like a grocery store, you will still have to fuck with mafia. And she also says that cops are mafias too.

Why don't you start killing cops and attacking every mafia you know with your bare hands? I am completely serious. And also I like you, I like the way how open minded and honest and warm Russians are. You got fucked by the czar, then you got raped by Stalin and now you're getting sodomized by the mafia. I feel sad for you. Why don't you just start a riot?

>>581381
No, he wouldn't. It was always a normal thing.

>>583879
If you want to call me "Traitor", i'd like to agree. Yes, i'm traitor to this so-called "goverment", but goverment are traitors to whole Russian nation

>>583716
>Current government is pro-American

Could've fooled the rest of the world. You sure as fuck aren't pro-EU, that's for sure.

Putin stopped the Iran invasion. Saved millions of women and children and probably saved millions of Americans from the guaranteed retaliatory strike and invasion too. If you somehow dislike the man you're not a man at all.

>>583696
lolwut?

>>583914

>>582600
Why? So the communist party can get even more seats? That's real smart man.

>>583908
>Russian governments
>Traitors
>yes
Getting rid of the tsar was the worst mistake you guys ever made
Hail Putin I

>>583908
No you're a traitor in general. I suspect you're an American. Nobody would wish their country sold out to the people who've tried to destroy it for half a century. To anyone. Government is always bad. It's not necessary in a country that would fight invasion without command. That's what Russia was and is. You want to change that.
You could be Russian. Anything's possible. Youth are gullible, propaganda can convince them of anything. This join the EU shit is the product of propoganda. It's sabotage. Acting upon it is treason. It would be like youths in the USA demonstrating a movement to make it part of a South American union. Make it's currency a peso and pull down it's borders.

>>583928
Where have you been the last few months?

>>583980
>The US was going to nuke Iran
>Iran magically had the capability to hit CONUS
>This was all prevented because of the might and valor of Putin

What world are you living on where this happened?

>>583933
Better them than United Russia. Fuck those guys. Seriously. I'm a person who cares little for politics but I would rather have 3 parties with somewhat equal number of delegates than UR with 65% and who the fuck cares about all the others if they can't beat them in voting? There was a video where all the delegates just left Duma and since their voice wouldn't matter a law was passed with one buy who was ordered to press all the buttons on the chair so that everyone voted positive. Let them fucking work instead of doing shit like this. Communists or no - they should opose every piece of shit law UR is trying to push.

Y'know, after how Stalin had such a cult of personality and propaganda, I'm really surprised that the Russian people fell for the propaganda surrounding Putin.

>>583988
This one.

>>582045
This guy is fucking awesome

>>584051
That's a rotary launcher for a B-52.

What's your point?

>>584044
I'm not surprised Americans fell for Bush or Obama.

>>583964

>Sold out to the people who tried to destroy it for half a century

The USSR doesn't exist anymore, brosef. That battle is over.

>youths demonstrating to tear down American borders

Uh, yeah, ever listened to a liberal? They would love to abolish the border so we get flooded with Mexicans.

>>584059
My point is you're ignorant of current events. Willfully ignorant.

>>584070
Yes. Because Bush and Obama have photo ops of them hunting tigers, running around with their shirts off, their own brands of vodka and all news organizations filled with stories about how amazing they are/were, right?

Yeah, the treatment they get is totally the same as Putin, and the US has had past presidents that were deified like Stalin was, rite?

>>584082
How?

By you posting an image of a rotary launcher from a B-52?

Do you honestly believe any of the following that you alluded to previously?

>The US was going to use nuclear weapons on Iran

>Iran has the capability to hit the United States with a nuclear weapon

>Putin saved the US and Iran from a nuclear holocaust

Which of those do you believe?