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    18 KB Anonymous 12/07/11(Wed)18:51 No.574330  
    Why are/aren't you a part of the Occupy movement, /pol/?
    >> almostphysicist 12/07/11(Wed)18:52 No.574342
    >>574330
    Because I accept the responsibility of my student loans, and I am not an entitled hipster with nothing to do but bitch and moan about my shitty life.
    >> almostphysicist 12/07/11(Wed)18:53 No.574357
    >>574330
    And I also didn't waste four years of my life majoring in liberal arts and then wondering why I can't find employment.

    And I believe in free market.

    But mostly, I'm not a retarded young adult who never grew out of his angsty tennager phase.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/11(Wed)18:54 No.574374
    >>574342
    But aren't unfit student loans just a component to the movement's itinerary? For you to emphasize on just one chief complaint of the movement and use ad hominem generalizations against the supporters only shows that you aren't versed in what the demands are.

    Next.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/11(Wed)18:55 No.574377
    Because I'll never go full retard
    >> Anonymous 12/07/11(Wed)18:56 No.574389
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    >>574330
    Because it is in essence a socialist movement. Americans are so ignorant they actually believe the Occupy Movement is something new, they think that socialism is something involving dictatorships or Adolph Hitler by definition.

    Once the movement organizes a political party with common goals and intelligent candidates, i might begin to listen to them, But a LOT more police brutality needs to happen before these kids drop their iPads.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/11(Wed)18:56 No.574390
    >>574342
    >>574357

    This.
    /thread.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/11(Wed)18:56 No.574392
    i didn't go to college for a lib arts degree and expect some one to pay me 6 figures for knowing underwater basket weaving. I don't expect everyone else to pay for shit when i fail. i don't have a trust fund to rely on when i turned 21. I've seen what the USSR was and what it has become. I know why China is communist in name only and why t hey are gonna be hit harder than ever when they collapse. I know how to take on responsibility.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/11(Wed)18:57 No.574410
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    It's pointless
    >> Anonymous 12/07/11(Wed)18:58 No.574411
    I am an Iranian who came here at the age of 14, learned English, and worked my way to get into a top university all while my parents worked multiple jobs to pay for my education so I could have a better life than they did. I will not waste my time skipping out on school to waste their hard earned love and help. Come the fuck at me
    >> Anonymous 12/07/11(Wed)18:58 No.574413
    >>574392
    >>574342
    >>574357

    This.
    /thread.
    For real now.
    >> almostphysicist 12/07/11(Wed)18:58 No.574420
    >>574374
    >For you to emphasize on just one chief complaint of the movement

    Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't realize you wanted a giant list of reasons. I gave you one very major one.

    >you aren't versed in what the demands are.
    They were never organized to the point that they could agree on what their demands were. That's another reason I would never stand behind them, because they can't get their shit together. And the fact that they've been out there so long without any kind of organization implies they're just happy to be out there for the sake of bitching, because it feels good to vent your anger, regardless of whether or not you accomplish anything.

    Which is completely childish.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/11(Wed)18:58 No.574424
    >>574374
    What are the demands of the movement? You are a supporter of the OWS, surely you know them?
    >> Liberty !!nQrIRh+JHbs 12/07/11(Wed)18:59 No.574438
    >>574330

    They are anti-corporation and support Obama. Obama has received more money from corporations than all the republicans candidates combined.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/11(Wed)19:01 No.574448
    >>574389
    >Once the movement organizes a political party

    Isn't that exactly what they're against? They're ushering in an ideology of an ad hoc political party, disorganized as it may be, it's collective representation of what the movement stands for in its cause. Your obscuring of the movement by calling it socialist doesn't make much sense, either. Of course there'll be a consensus of the protestors that might be projecting their personal blights onto the movement, but in no way is that representative to the bigger picture.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/11(Wed)19:01 No.574452
    >>574330
    Because I am not someone who spends their time being envious of things other people have.

    Oh, and I actually fucking work for a living.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/11(Wed)19:01 No.574459
    Might actually head out to OLA on Saturday.
    I was really into it when it first started, because the initial message was get wall street out of politics, but it devolved into a bunch of socialist bums within weeks, I really don't want to be part of a socialist movement. There are some good parts, yeah, and the message started nice, but between the socialists, bums, hippies and massive amounts of outright ignorance it's really too shitty to be worth it.
    >> ryesta7971 !!eLlkEQUMVKd 12/07/11(Wed)19:03 No.574473
    because Providence, RI has shitty parking, and I don't feel like getting parking tickets
    >> Anonymous 12/07/11(Wed)19:03 No.574475
    Ron Paul supports Occupy movement

    http://amherst.patch.com/articles/ron-paul-defends-occupy-wall-street#video-8518569
    >> Anonymous 12/07/11(Wed)19:06 No.574498
    >>574389
    FUCKING SAVED
    >> Anonymous 12/07/11(Wed)19:06 No.574504
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    I was actually at the Occupy Los Angeles and it was a big pile of nothing.

    A bunch of dirty hippies and hipsters sitting in a park for a long time, some of which made treehouses. Shouting revolution slogans that were drowned out by police helicopters.

    Police force came, kicked em all out, nothing happened, everyone stopped giving a fuck the next day. What were their demands? No one fucking knows or cares.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/11(Wed)19:09 No.574530
    What OWS does not "get" is that the ONLY occupation that matters is Congress. Because the ONLY way any of the things that they care about can be changed is through legislation. So until they come up with a scheme to actually get a significant number of progressives elected to Congress they are wasting their time with a lot of nonsense. Say what you like about the Tea Party, but they were intelligent enough from the start to focus on political goals, and in 2 years they've achieved a great many of them. OWS will achieve nothing this way.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/11(Wed)19:10 No.574538
    >>574424
    I'm not a supporter, my stance on what's going is indifferent. They bring some interesting concepts to the table and there are some rational arguments/constructive criticisms against the cause. The fact that Zizek and Chomsky support the cause is intriguing enough to at least read up on what the movement.
    >> almostphysicist 12/07/11(Wed)19:10 No.574542
    >When asked about Occupy Wall Street, he said it was unfair to dismiss the concerns that are being expressed by the protesters.

    >While he supports public anger towards government and banks, Paul said that we should avoid blaming businessmen who have gained wealth honestly.

    Please stop slandering Ron Paul. He does not "support OWS," he supports their right to have a voice.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/11(Wed)19:11 No.574548
    >>574530
    OWS wants government to own them and thereby remove any personal responsibility.

    They do not want to protest government, they want to give themselves over to it.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/11(Wed)19:11 No.574550
    Because the FBI's official training manual for 2011 says that protesters are "low level terrorists" and the NDAA that just bipartisanly passed the house and the senate says the US military can come indefinitely detain US citizens accused of being terrorists.

    Have fun committing acts of low level terrorism and then being detained in the brig.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/11(Wed)19:12 No.574565
    >>574550
    >2011
    >not being a homebred terrorist

    ISHYGDDT
    >> Anonymous 12/07/11(Wed)19:12 No.574567
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    >>574548
    >> Anonymous 12/07/11(Wed)19:14 No.574589
    Weren't civil rights supporters considered communists/socialists too? I don't get it.
    >> Liberty !!nQrIRh+JHbs 12/07/11(Wed)19:16 No.574609
    >>574589

    A support for theft of labor and the removal of choice will get you labeled as such.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/11(Wed)19:17 No.574624
    I don't get why the hipster buzzword is thrown around so carelessly when OWS discussions come about, honestly. Aren't hipsters shallow husks of the corporations that they surround themselves with? Wouldn't it be unproductive of them to protest against big corps?
    >> Anonymous 12/07/11(Wed)19:20 No.574659
    Leftist Organized Labor:
    >It is wrong to pay people poor wages for a long, hard days work. People who work hard should be rewarded. People should not be working for free you know!

    Leftist Tax Policy: You make too much money, so we must take a percentage of it, which means that you will spend some time, the amount of which of course we should determine, working for free.
    >> Liberty !!nQrIRh+JHbs 12/07/11(Wed)19:22 No.574682
    >>574668

    I am referencing the act in that post.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/11(Wed)19:28 No.574766
    I'm against corrupt financial institutions, which happen to be in Wall St. Does that mean I'm a supporter of the movement? You have to be painfully oblivious to what's going on in the nation to not realize that lobbyists have a tight grip on what is fed to us American citizens.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/11(Wed)19:29 No.574775
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    because im not a faggot.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/11(Wed)19:29 No.574783
    because a productive capitalist working my way towards the 1%, fuck off bum.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/11(Wed)19:31 No.574818
    >>574783
    Are you Jewish? Are you part of Zionism? Are you a direct relative to the Rockefellers? Were you born into royalty?

    If you've answered no to any of these, you're not part of the 1% and never will be.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/11(Wed)19:40 No.574916
    >because a productive capitalist working my way towards the 1%

    ha good luck motherfucker. Long ago they shut the doors on becoming one of the true elite for anyone not directly related by blood or a friend of theirs from business school.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/11(Wed)19:40 No.574922
    Anyone who says he has no idea what these folks are protesting is not being truthful. Whether we agree with them or not, we all know what they are upset about, and we all know that there are investment bankers working on Wall Street getting richer while things for most of the rest of us are getting tougher. What upsets banking's defenders and politicians alike is the refusal of this movement to state its terms or set its goals in the traditional language of campaigns...They mean to show that there is an inappropriate and correctable disconnect between the abundance America produces and the scarcity its markets manufacture.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/11(Wed)19:45 No.574962
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    >>574916
    You said it, anyone pretty much not a Jew is automatically not in the 1%.

    If anyone is interest check out "the international jew" to learn how white people got screwed over by kikes
    >> Anonymous 12/07/11(Wed)19:57 No.575098
    >>574962
    This. If you're not in that margin, then you shouldn't be against the movement, you should be with it, retards.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/11(Wed)20:04 No.575175
    You what is really amazing, most of the people in /pol/ who are opposed to OWS are really ungrateful that a significant amount of people are exercising their constitutional rights because they're protesting against the wrong topic.

    With people complaining that American's are politically apathetic, you should actually thank them.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/11(Wed)20:08 No.575233
    I think the main problem I have is with the hypocrisy of business. If it doesn't go their way they bitch and moan until they get it their way. "we want a free unregulated market! we are tired of government interference!" they fuck up and lose a shitton of money "can haz bailout now?" that shit is retarded. If I fuck up and spend all my money on lottery tickets, thinking It will be ok I will win the lottery if I buy enouph tickets I can't ask for some money from the government to pay my bills. Those companies should have gotten their shit together, gm, chrysler, the banks, all of em, they should have suffered the consequences. Even now the mpaa and music corps are trying to have the internet censored, it's not the job of the government to fight your legal battles for you.



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