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Actually, I've heard that California is working on one that will connect the northern areas with the southern areas. It's more or less that the major population centers are so spaced far apart that there is little day-to-day travel between them to require the need of a high speed railway. The only other area I could see a high speed railway going up would be in the Northeast between the Boston-NY-Philly areas.
>>5246902>confirmed for living 12,000 miles from California, in a cave with your eyes shut and your fingers in your ears.
Because unlike you guys, we have space between our cities.
Because it is still slower than a plane
Why is the american left so infatuated with trains? They are sinkholes for money, but then again the left love their pork projects, no doubt the legislators are taking a cut.
>>5246768impractical, expensive, not needed, can be ran efficiently, niggers, bums, no one would use it because it would only take you to a city and american cities still have a fuck ton of walking distance and most people live in suburbs.
>>5246929You are aware that they're breaking ground on the tracks right?
>>5246981Pork projects like rail at least provide some benefit to the population, where pork projects like oil and military do almost nothing for Americans.
We have trains. They are the muscular kind that haul freight. Get your passenger shit out of here.
>>5246981>>5247012>If you don't have a car you shouldn't be allowed to go anywhere!
>>5246902Merced and Fresno are not major population centers
>maglevs>affordable>not a dickwaving project
>>5247068>if I don't have a car you should build train to take me where I need to go
>>5247062>oil and military does nothing for Americans.............im going to assume that was a troll post, cause no one is intentionally that stupid.
>>5247142Yes, me and the millions of others who don't own cars.
>MFW OIL RUNS OUT>MFW AMERICANS ARE ISOLATED FROM THE WORLD IN THEIR SUBURBS >MFW THE REST OF THE WORLD CONTINUES ON IN THEIR TRAINS
>implying US airlines aren't a publicly subsidized socialist project periodically run into the ground by "jerb creators".
>>5247214The FAA and airports are mainly funded by user fees
Because self-driving electric cars are more suited to the needs of Americans.
>>5247142trains are certainly expensive but so are roads. People like to complain that trains could never be profitable like the auto industry, but could auto manufacturers be profitable if it weren't for government built roads? Trains are an awesome way to move people both long and short distances and would take away the need for lots of people to have cars effectively putting money back in their pockets making it a backdoor stimulus on top of everything else
>>5247194>implying oil will run out>implying we dont have enough corn to fuel the earth>implying everyone in the rest of the world relies on trains and not mostly cars like the US, or walking.>implying that an absent of oil wont mean the end of trains as well
>>5247044Breaking ground?You don't say!
>implying the TGV isn't much better and SWAG
>>5247338but in a country as large as ours to use trains as the main source of transportation they's have to make every road and drive way train ready.
We can't because our country is not suitably structured for one. Trains are usually for trade and commerce more than transport.
Because no one ever builds these things in straight lines like the Romans.You're all fucking retarded. Also fuck train threads.How many years straight have you been spamming /pol/ with this now? So many things have happened since then, we've had a full term with a magic negro president, osama is finally dead, the middle east has civil warred, USA has abandoned Israel and libertarianism is now a mainstream ideology
>>5247407I mean civilian transport.
>>5247338roads are built with gas taxes
>>5247374You only need to get people to the general area of where they're going, then you use taxis, bikes or buses to get them the rest of the way.
>>5246768because hurr durr train r waste munee infrastructure useless muh free murkutz LESS GUBMENT NOW U DINT BUILT DAT
Because there's no reason to.The only place in America where high speed trains make sense is the Northeast. And the fact is, getting new right of ways there is a massive and expensive pain in the ass. And re-purposing existing track is a full retard idea. We transport a greater percentage of our freight by rail than any other country but Russia, and a far greater gross amount than anyone. Hampering our existing freight rail infrastructure so a few fags can go from NYC to Philly in 45 minutes instead of 90 minutes is fucking stupid.
Eisenhower thought interstate highways would be a good idea instead of letting the free market fix it.
>>5247346Electricity: How does it work?
>>5247539It's not that the Free Market should fix it. It's that it's just a stupid idea regardless of who does it.
>>5247595fossil fuels mostly.you run out of oil, the other fossil fuels like coal will fucking skyrocket beyond belief.told.
>>5247685Are you really retarded enough to believe that fossil fuels are the only way to produce electricity?
>>5247665So lets stick with our crumbling highways and forget it because it's "expensive" and "hard". America, fuck yeah!
>>5247194>MFW allcaps
>>5247711>Highways crumbling?>Lets build trains instead of fixing highways...Yeah I can see the logic in this method.
>>5247737Why not both. People bitch about cost, but infrastructure spending is one area where you should be willing to fund huge projects. That and education.
>>5247711I just drove 1500 miles in the last week. I didn't see any crumbling highways. And it's not a bad idea because it's expensive or hard. It's a bad idea because it's completely unnecessary, and possibly even harmful
>>5247772Harmful to whom?
>>5247711Where does this crumbling highways shit come from?I think it started with that bridge collapse in Minneapolis/St Paul. Which is kind of stupid because the bridge collapsed because it was severely overloaded, not because it was old or in disrepair.
>>5247708mostly you cock sucking faggot.most electricity is produced via fossil fuels, like OIL. in fact OIL makes up probably half of it.wind is shit, solar is weak, nuclear is great but liberals who want the trains are fucking cry baby dick sucking faggot pussies even though its the safest fuel source of all of them.how ever, the amount of electricity to run a train, especially cross country is fucking insane, and electric doesnt have the sheer raw power to move 80 tons as efficiently as fossil fuel sources.
>>5247798See>>5247487If you can get entirely new right of ways build this shit on, go for it. But that's very unlikely in the north east. Most proposals for high speed rail in the us involve repurposing existing track, to the detriment of our rail freight capacity.If we do that, for every car you take off the road, you're going to have another semi-trailer on it.
>>5247874Don't waste your breath, there's no way of explaining things like EROEI to idiots like this.They just want to power their cars with coal and forget where it comes from when they feel a twinge of guilt around that shell of an existence they call a "self".
>>5247874Most fossil fuel electricity comes from coal you ignorant fucking cunt. And soon it will mostly come from natural gas.
>>5247874See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel-electric_transmissionRemove the diesel engine and what do you have?
Not even Europe has them.I think they are only practical in very specific situations.Like connecting an airport to a city center.And even then conventional trains do the job almost just as good.
>>5247967A train that doesn't move.
>>5246768Because cars are better.
>>5248208Well just add electrified track and you're set.Pretty much all modern locomotives use electric motors. It's just a question where the electricity comes from. Either from the track itself, or from diesel generators in the locomotive.
Implement a system where the train moves by magnetic acceleration. Polarized magnets at opposite endsRepel/Attraction
>>5248378i dont think that would work very well.especially since you need a fuck ton of magnetic power to moove a train and everyone on bord whereing anything or holding anything with iron nickle or cobalt would be fucked.
>>5248661Hire people to scan the passengers and make sure they don't have any iron, nickel, or cobalt on them. Solution solved.
>>5248378What do you think a maglev train is?
Because trains are for moving cargo, not people.
What kind of cargo?
>>5248831tooth filling, bone plates and support, and how about the train itself and luggage?
>>5247338Difference being that Roads more than pay themselves through taxes directly on car owners. People who love trains generally aren't willing to pay for them.
>>5247763>why not bothBecause unlike train users drivers are already paying for their roads and not getting what they paid for.Taxes/excise on road users more than pays for roads yet the government takes that money and spends it on other shit like trains for yuppies.
Because fuck you. that's why. Getting fucked means someone is winning, and it sure as shit isn't us. Oil companies profit > the people.
>>5249888Bulk materials mostly
For those of your statists blaming "the free market" for lack of trains, there is a long history of overbearing regulation on railroads that has crippled railroad entrepreneurs. Not to mention countless subsidies given to those with the highest political connections which have also crippled the industry and funneled wealth and legal monopolies down to a few parties. For those statists willing to have their beliefs questioned, I recommend Albro Martin's books, especially Enterprise Denied and Railroads Triumphant. No Way to Run a Railroad by Stephen Salsbury is also a good one. Kevin Carson has also put a lot of research into the subject. Here is a good piece of his talking about the distorted effects by the state on both roads and rail. http://www.thefreemanonline.org/features/the-distorting-effects-of-transportation-subsidies/
We have DART in Dallas, and the state is planning a high-speed rail network between Houston, Austin, and Dallas.
