Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)14:34
No.4796677

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)14:34 No.4796677

>>4796649
Can we please just throw birthers in the gas chambers?

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)14:34
No.4796683

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)14:34 No.4796683

Yes it is fake.

A pretty bad fake.

So what?

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)14:35
No.4796691

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)14:35 No.4796691

>>4796649

Doesn't hold a candle to laying off thousands of American workers and shipping their jobs overseas to China all while making millions of dollars while paying a single digit tax rate to do so. I'd rather take an immigrant president over a traitor like Romney.

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)14:35
No.4796698

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)14:35 No.4796698

>>4796677
>9/11 was a conspiracy

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)14:35
No.4796708

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)14:35 No.4796708

>>4796677

OY VEY SIX MILLION

NEVER FORGET

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)14:36
No.4796732

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)14:36 No.4796732

>>4796677
Not OP, honestly it's within the realm of possibility that he was born in Africa. It's actually quite a realistic probability.

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)14:37
No.4796742

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)14:37 No.4796742

If that is fake, why was his birth announcement in the newspaper

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)14:37
No.4796745

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)14:37 No.4796745

File: 1344796636490.jpg-(47 KB, 900x570, 22733001-sad-hitler.jpg)

>Prove to me this isn't fake
>244x206 res.

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)14:37
No.4796751

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)14:37 No.4796751

>>4796691
insane buttmad

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)14:38
No.4796763

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)14:38 No.4796763

>>4796742

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s9StxsFllY

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)14:40
No.4796817

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)14:40 No.4796817

File: 1344796841331.jpg-(60 KB, 392x356, proof-obama-was-born-in-k(...).jpg)

>>4796677
>pretend to be from Kenya for 16 years to sell your book
>call people stupid for believing it

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)14:43
No.4796869

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)14:43 No.4796869

>McCains reaction to the forgery revelations; silence
>Palins reaction to the forgery revelations; silence
>Pauls reaction to the forgery revelations; ridicule
>Newt's reaction to the forgery revelations; silence
>Romney's reaction to the forgery revelations; silence
>Rush's reaction to the forgery revelations; one 30second blurb and nothing afterwards
>Hannity's reaction to the forgery revelations; one 2min segment on his show and nothing afterward

This speaks volumes in and of itself if the scandal hungry GOP isn't even interested. Old farts with WebTV think they've dug up something Karl Rove missed in 2008.

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)14:44
No.4796882

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)14:44 No.4796882

>has a white mother
>implying a young white woman would survive in kenya without dying of AIDS

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)14:44
No.4796886

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)14:44 No.4796886

File: 1344797056904.jpg-(47 KB, 558x558, 1343617103618.jpg)

>>4796817
>Breitbart image

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)14:45
No.4796900

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)14:45 No.4796900

>>4796882
AIDs didn't exist back when Obama was born.

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)14:46
No.4796935

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)14:46 No.4796935

>>4796886
So you're saying its fake? even NBC reported on it.

it was made while he was at Harvard.

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)14:47
No.4796954

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)14:47 No.4796954

>Be born in the canal zone
>Be born during a time when the canal zone isn't us territory due to technicality
>no one raises a fuss when I run for pres, but the other guy gets conspiritards claiming he's from africa.
>He's more US than I am
>I'm white, he's black
>mfw I'm john mccain

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)14:48
No.4796982

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)14:48 No.4796982

>>4796649
Some dude in the Obama Administration screwed up and put a copy online instead of scanning an image I really don't see the conspiracy. Also you do know that Obama shares the same name as his father which is why President Obama is the Jr while his father is Senior.

Mr K. Dilkington !5zkfKga5yU
08/12/12(Sun)14:49
No.4797010

Mr K. Dilkington !5zkfKga5yU 08/12/12(Sun)14:49 No.4797010

File: 1344797376764.jpg-(55 KB, 900x613, Karl_Pilkington_don__t_kn(...).jpg)

>argument from ignorance

Good job making an ass of yourself, OP.

Pic related, it's OP.

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)14:50
No.4797031

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)14:50 No.4797031

>>4796935

So, explain the silence from the republican party. Why would they ignore something that would get obama out of the whitehouse before Nov 2nd?

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)14:56
No.4797164

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)14:56 No.4797164

>>4797031
They would, but the liberal media made people who know the truth look crazy and irrational. It is a fake, that is a fact.

Everyone from a sheriff's investigation team to a wealthy businessman with a lot to lose in public appeal confirmed it. Neither of them would risk their reputations and careers by saying something that isn't true.

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)14:56
No.4797174

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)14:56 No.4797174

>>4796900
AIDS wasn't formally recognized by the medical community until the 1980s. The first recorded death from AIDS was in 1959 which was found from preserved blood samples that were later tested. Now given how long it takes for AIDS to take its course, this would've meant the virus had been undoubtedly around at least a decade before this if not a few decades.

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)14:59
No.4797233

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)14:59 No.4797233

>>4797164
>liberal media

The liberal media has no effect on conservatives, if they did the republicans wouldn't have gone after Clinton about the blowjob.

As for Trump/Joe, one is a man who managed to bankrupt a casino in AC multiple times, the other let his deputy get knocked up by a drug dealer. That speaks volumes about their reputation right there.

But hey, dont let that stop you from ranting, every time you lose a lawsuit/goto prison for half-baked attempts at inciting insurrection in the military, I get a good belly laugh.

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)14:59
No.4797237

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)14:59 No.4797237

File: 1344797991229.jpg-(31 KB, 225x225, 1343934956821.jpg)

>>4797164
Please be a troll.

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)15:01
No.4797257

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)15:01 No.4797257

>>liberal media

I can sense foaming at the mouth, rabid angry republitards everytime I hear that phrase. The mythical 'liberal media'.

Which happens to be corporate owned. hm...

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)15:03
No.4797305

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)15:03 No.4797305

>>4797164
Even for the birther argument, that's got to be the flimsiest "reasoning" I've ever seen. If it could be proven, like actually proven, then the people the 'liberal' media has 'demonized' to look crazy would be vindicated, AND the lid would be blown off of the evil liberal media's brainwashing plans.

But then, for that to happen, there'd have to be any truth behind the claims that Obama's birth certificate was a fake, so it's pretty clear that there isn't.

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)15:05
No.4797356

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)15:05 No.4797356

>>4797031
its dangerous. it can open up to being called a racist etc.

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)15:05
No.4797366

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)15:05 No.4797366

>>4796649
>>4796649

I have a challenge OP:

Prove any historical event happened. Any one of them.

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)15:06
No.4797388

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)15:06 No.4797388

>>4797305
the truth doesn't matter. there will never be definitive proof so as long as the media just paints anyone who doesn't believe their version of the story as a psycho racist, and thats what they'll appear to be.

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)15:07
No.4797397

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)15:07 No.4797397

>>4797366
I watched the 9/11 attacks on television as they happened.

So, how'sa bout that birth certificate, huh?

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)15:07
No.4797415

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)15:07 No.4797415

>>4796742
Birth announcement doesn't state WHERE he was born, just that a local couple had themselves a baby. Means nothing.

Out of curiosity, I'd like to see another 1961birth certificate from the same hospital of another negroid child designating said child as "race = african". Because accorging to the US Census bureau of the time, his correct racial designation would be "negro". And then in the 1970 census, either "negro" or "black".

Just seems queer that a hospital would use irregular terminology in their demographic records.

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)15:08
No.4797426

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)15:08 No.4797426

>>4797388
So basically, as long as you deny things that you don't like, you're just a victim of the liberal media? That's good to know. Have fun living in denial.

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)15:08
No.4797437

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)15:08 No.4797437

>>4797356
>being called a racist etc.

They've been called racists ad nauseum over the past decade, why would it matter anyway since a successful probe by GOP lawmakers would boot Obama out, toos all of his laws/appointments and implicate hundreds of Democratic lawmakers/aides involved in the coverup. The reward would outweigh the risk 10^9000 if the birther's theories and "proofs" where legit.

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)15:08
No.4797442

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)15:08 No.4797442

>>4797397

So you believe everything you see on T.V.? Obviously the images were doctored before being shown on T.V. Did you actually SEE the attacks?

Mr K. Dilkington !5zkfKga5yU
08/12/12(Sun)15:09
No.4797444

Mr K. Dilkington !5zkfKga5yU 08/12/12(Sun)15:09 No.4797444

>>4797397
Good job falling for videos doctored by the Jews.

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)15:10
No.4797483

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)15:10 No.4797483

>>4797415
>Birth announcement doesn't state WHERE he was born, just that a local couple had themselves a baby
>state where......local
>where local

Local isn't a location anymore? It doesn't mean in the vicinity of a place then? So the local grocery store is no longer located near my house then? That would mean Romney wasn't outsourcing jobs, he was just sending them to local places, right?

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)15:10
No.4797493

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)15:10 No.4797493

I just saw this video from the anon that posted it before. Damn. It seems really really solid.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s9StxsFllY

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)15:12
No.4797515

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)15:12 No.4797515

>>4797442
No, I didn't not see them in person. You have also not seen the birth certificate be forged with your own eyes. So, if anything, by your own silly 'logic,' you have no proof that the birth certificate is a forgery, since you did not witness it being made.

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)15:13
No.4797536

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)15:13 No.4797536

> Have birth announcement in obscure Hawaiin newspaper to a black kid named Barack Obama
> In 1961, when blacks couldn't drink at white drinking fountains
> Put in announcement anyways as a fake in case he becomes president

seriously

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)15:14
No.4797574

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)15:14 No.4797574

>>4797536
I find it shocking that you don't see the obvious and sinister logic behind such a move, anon.

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)15:14
No.4797575

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)15:14 No.4797575

>4 years
>200+ lawsuits, including 7 that reached the supreme court
>40 bills that would have forced obama to present his vault BC at the state ballot office
>5 officers in the military given DD's for trying to incite revolution
>all failed dramatically in court

You'd think birther's would take a hint...

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)15:15
No.4797581

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)15:15 No.4797581

>>4797515

I'm not even talking about the birth certificate. I'm trying to get you to understand what you're asking and how people are supposed to prove it.

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)15:15
No.4797583

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)15:15 No.4797583

>>4797415
that was the race designated to his father, not him, in which case they might've labeled it different to distinguish between black americans and actual africans, which his father was

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)15:15
No.4797586

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)15:15 No.4797586

Obongo is also a Muslim. In November, Ryan and Romney will remove kebab from premises.

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)15:15
No.4797596

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)15:15 No.4797596

>>4797575

It's how you know the GOP is so low on ammo against Obama this election season

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)15:17
No.4797622

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)15:17 No.4797622

File: 1344799024107.jpg-(263 KB, 998x1320, President_Barack_Obama's_(...).jpg)

here is a bigger version of the photocopy since OP is retarded and posted a fucking thumbnail

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)15:18
No.4797664

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)15:18 No.4797664

>>4797596
>no ammo
why do you think obama is trying to talk about Mitt's taxes? the republicans have all the ammo they need with the economy.

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)15:20
No.4797696

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)15:20 No.4797696

>>4797581
You're really grasping at straws. No one should believe everything they see on tv or read or whatever, but to disbelieve everything that you haven't seen with your own eyes is just stupid. Using that flimsy reasoning to invalidate things you don't like just makes you look like a child. How do I know unemployment is really as high as it allegedly is? I haven't seen 8.4% of the US population out of work, and if I count ten people I know in real life, all of them are employed. So by your logic, US has 100% employment! Hooray!

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)15:21
No.4797718

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)15:21 No.4797718

>>4797483
Correct. A "local couple" does not indicate a couple located at that very moment in the general vicinity. It indicates a couple who reside the neighborhood. Out here in the world beyond your mother's basement, people can travel abroad, go on vacation, visit their old madrass, or just skip town for a year and still be a "local couple" known to the newspapers readers as locals.

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)15:23
No.4797764

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)15:23 No.4797764

>>4797586

If anything he is agnostic. His white grandparents were both nonpracticing christians of different sects. His father who was only raised muslim until age 6, converted to christianity, which didn't even matter because he proclaimed himself an athiest later on. Such is life in the western US, growing up without religion

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)15:26
No.4797818

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)15:26 No.4797818

>>4797718

So, obama's biological parents faked his birthplace just so he could become president in 2008?

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)15:29
No.4797871

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)15:29 No.4797871

>>4797696

So what makes the birth certificate an exception? It has just as much backup saying it is real as stuff like the Ems Dispatch existing or the Magna Carta, but you choose to believe one is real and not the other, despite both having overwhelming pools of evidence.

The guy became the President of the USA. Don't you think other agents in the government would vet him and confirm his citizenship?

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/birthcertificate.asp

>>4797575

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)15:29
No.4797879

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)15:29 No.4797879

>>4797581
An old math professor said, Pproof is when you convince someone that something it true. It can be a false proof, but if it convinces, you've proved it."

So, for me, proof would be supplying the document when it was called for in the primaries, or at least issuing a HIPAA waiver for the hospital to release a copy to anyone who wanted to see it, and not spending many thousands of dollars resisting and delaying its release.

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)15:30
No.4797893

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)15:30 No.4797893

>>4797718
Oh, ok. Thanks for pointing that out. So, that would mean that even though I don't live in Paris, the Eiffel Tower is still a local attraction! I am glad you've brought me around to your valuable philosophy of believing anything that I want to without any validity or evidence!

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)15:33
No.4797943

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)15:33 No.4797943

>>4797871
Which government agency do you believe has the authority to verify a candidate's ligitimacy?

Only the Press could have exposed the fraud, and the Press was gagging on his gay dick at the time.

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)15:34
No.4797953

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)15:34 No.4797953

>>4797871
I would say that it stems from the birthers' repeatedly showing that they will rest their argument on things that they don't actually have proof of as being legitemate proof against the validity of something that does exist. Is there proof that every single black child born in that time frame was listed as 'negro' on their birth certificate, and that then somehow Obama's is the outlier?

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)15:35
No.4797963

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)15:35 No.4797963

>>4797943
>Only the Press could have exposed the fraud, and the Press was gagging on his gay dick at the time.

Why didn't Fox news/AM Radio pursue it then? They don't care about being called racists, it's a badge of honor to them.

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)15:36
No.4797984

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)15:36 No.4797984

>>4797943

I would assume any that would be affected by a change in the president, most likely the NSA and Department of Defense.

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)15:37
No.4798006

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)15:37 No.4798006

>>4797893
Sarcasm works better when you understand the concept being discussed. Even when you are visiting the Eiffel Tower, you are still known to your neighbors as a local faggot.

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)15:41
No.4798077

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)15:41 No.4798077

>>4798006
>still known to neighbors as a local
So then, what's the problem? If the birth announcement was placed in a local paper, and his parents were known to be locals, what did the Hawaiian doctors do? Travel to Kenya to deliver the kid with a blank Hawaiian birth certificate to fill out?

Yeah, the evidence is just super clear.

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)15:41
No.4798083

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)15:41 No.4798083

>most likely the NSA and Department of Defense

And once the symbiote is detected, they deploy SG-1 to stop the election.

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)15:42
No.4798091

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)15:42 No.4798091

>>4796649
>Prove to me this isn't fake.

How do you prove a negative?

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)15:46
No.4798168

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)15:46 No.4798168

>>4798083

>symbiote

>not the hive fleet

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)16:01
No.4798410

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)16:01 No.4798410

>>4798091
Prove to me that you can't prove a negative.

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)16:12
No.4798622

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)16:12 No.4798622

>>4798410
I can't.
QED

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)16:35
No.4799107

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)16:35 No.4799107

File: 1344803715438.jpg-(49 KB, 259x194, 1344479288063.jpg)

>>4798410
wat

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)16:38
No.4799165

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)16:38 No.4799165

File: 1344803892349.jpg-(19 KB, 650x366, totalrecall09.jpg)

>>4798091
>>Prove to me this isn't fake.
>How do you prove a negative?

isn't illogical <=> is logical
isn't fake <=> is authentic

>mfw my mind is barely able to bear that much logic power at the same time.

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)16:45
No.4799264

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)16:45 No.4799264

>>4797483
You just don't understand. Local Hawaiian newspapers report on international births all the time. ESPECIALLY random babies born in Kenya. It's a local tradition. They have 500 pages dedicated to it in the Sunday edition.

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)16:46
No.4799299

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)16:46 No.4799299

>>4798410
I simply asked a question. It's bizarre to answer a question with a command.

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)17:04
No.4799643

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)17:04 No.4799643

why would the jews want a muslim president?

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)17:15
No.4799862

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)17:15 No.4799862

Does the birth certificate even matter?

A natural citizen of the US only needs one parent to be a citizen, which his mom clearly was at the time. Even if he were born in Kenya, he would still have legal US citizenship.

I really don't even know how this became a thing.

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)17:17
No.4799932

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)17:17 No.4799932

>>4799862

To be president you have to be a natural-born citizen.

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)17:23
No.4800047

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)17:23 No.4800047

>>4799932
... People born outside of the country to a citizen are considered natural born citizens.

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)17:26
No.4800094

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)17:26 No.4800094

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Probatio_diabolica

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)17:29
No.4800141

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)17:29 No.4800141

>>4796649
>Implying once can prove something to a person when their mind is already made up

You're worse than a creationist, OP.

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)17:36
No.4800267

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)17:36 No.4800267

When Glenn Beck and Ron Paul call you retarded, it's time to hang it up.

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)17:39
No.4800321

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)17:39 No.4800321

>>4796649
That looks like the same paper that my original birth certificate was printed on. It's difficult to forge that. Too bad my own original birth certificate got destroyed by some stupid bullshit (someone ripped it up in front of me because they hated me so hard).

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)17:41
No.4800365

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)17:41 No.4800365

>republicans
>SHOW US YOUR BIRTH CERTIFICATE OBAMA? WHAT HAVE YOU GOT TO HIDE?

>w-what? show romney's tax returns? w-why should he? this is irrelevant and will be twisted in some manner!

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)17:45
No.4800454

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)17:45 No.4800454

>>4800047

What

My father was born to a citizen in poland and spent his first stint in the us as an illegal immigrant. Then he realized his mother was american went to the consulate and was recognized as us citizen

Question is, was he technically always a citizen???

Wtf am i an amerishit???

Oh god its like that movie with the jew hating guy please tell me

Oh god

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)17:50
No.4800554

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)17:50 No.4800554

File: 1344808254154.jpg-(530 KB, 655x3405, birthers-gettin-told.jpg)

I'm a former employee of the State of Oregon's Department of Human Services Center for Health Statistics. (aka, the birth certificate office)

I've personally looked up, printed, and mailed out about 100,000 birth, death, marriage, and divorce certificates in my life. I've also personally entered about 3-4,000 new records into the state database and microfiche tape system.

I'd wager that I'm exceedingly more knowledgeable about these things than any of you.

I have no doubt that Barack Hussein Obama was born in the state of Hawaii. I am 100% convinced that no birther will ever be satisfied, simply because the evidence they demand cannot .. legally .. be provided. Ever.

I made the attached macro image for confused persons straddling the line between sanity and birtherism. Enjoy.

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)17:52
No.4800584

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)17:52 No.4800584

>>4797397
I saw a big mutated lizard on its hind legs trash New York on TV once, your point?

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)17:54
No.4800624

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)17:54 No.4800624

>>4800321
Vital stats guy here. It's really easy to get a new copy. Usually costs about $15-25. Some states you can go into an office and get it the same day.

www.vitalchek.com

You can order one online from there..

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)18:07
No.4800889

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)18:07 No.4800889

File: 1344809259055.jpg-(48 KB, 400x304, Rodney-King2-nsn6212012.jpg)

>>4800554
I'm a former employee of the State of Oregon's Sherrif's Office. (aka, the pig central)

I've personally booked, printed, and jailed about 100,000 black, hispanic, asian, and white criminals in my life. I've also personally entered about 3-4,000 new records into the state database and microfiche tape system.

I'd wager that I'm exceedingly more knowledgeable about these things than any of you. I am a god.

I have no doubt that no police officer ever assaulted or otherwise attacked a person that wasn't an agressive suspect. I am 500% convinced that no hater will ever be satisfied, simply because the evidence they demand cannot .. legally .. be provided. Ever.

I made the attached macro image for confused persons straddling the line between sanity and righteousness. Enjoy.

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)18:16
No.4801050

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)18:16 No.4801050

>>4800889
So what's your point?

First of all, you're not a cop. If you were you'd be more knowledgeable about police procedures. You're likely some edgy 19 year old pseudo libertarian struggling through community college.

Where as I actually am an industry expert.

I mean, clever attempt at a strawman attack but I'm not made of straw little boy.

Do you wish to actually become informed about how the birth certificate process works, or do you just want to sit up on your perch and make louay shot attempts to sniper me?

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)18:18
No.4801081

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)18:18 No.4801081

>>4800624
You must be paid to do this.
You're here for every Obongo thread, saying "vital stats guy, nobody could ever fake anything like that, it's absolutely impossible. That they have power over exactly everyone that has designed the entire system, administrates it and could alter it, doesn't matter. I know this because I personally live in the archives and I never ever sleep. It's impossible, so stop discussing it, guys."
The next day, same thing. The day after that, same thing. The day after that, same thing.
You keep posting here in EVERY birth certificate thread.

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)18:19
No.4801100

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)18:19 No.4801100

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>>4801050
Someone's new.

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)18:24
No.4801190

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)18:24 No.4801190

>>4801081
I do post in every birth certificate thread, yes. It's because I feel its a stupid debate. Absolutely stupid.

I'm currently a business intelligence analyst working for IBM. That's what I'm paid to do. Not debunk dummy birthers. This is more of a hobby.

Again, nice attempt at a strawman. But I'm not made of straw.

Tell me, why do you believe you have the right to order the state of Hawaii to open their vaults and let the public view original birth records?

You must not be a libertarian, or an advocate of the 10th amendment.
>>4801100
Been here since before /new/ was made and destroyed.

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)18:28
No.4801255

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)18:28 No.4801255

>>4801190
>BI Analyst
>thinks that has anything to do with cops and birth certificates.
>expects anyone to believe he isn't just a troll

Yeah, if you think that being here since /pol/ started makes you an oldfag... god help you.

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)18:36
No.4801407

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)18:36 No.4801407

>>4801190
>why do you believe you have the right to order the state of Hawaii to open their vaults and let the public view original birth records?
Nice attempt at a strawman. But I'm not made of straw.

If this was set up, Obongo didn't walk into the office and asked someone to fix him up with fake details. People with connections would've done so, or agencies. I know you think everything the government tells us is true, and that they have to follow the constitution, but this is not the case.
For everything you know and can do, they know more, and they can do it better. It may very well be a forgery. The digital copy is, and a sheriffs office have investigated this, and reported it to the press.
Again, I understand that you have full faith in the government, the agencies, and all the rich people behind them.
But they've pulled off far more complicated things than this, if it is indeed fake.

A simple question, though - why would Obongo spend so much money on lawyers over months and months of time, to supress all of this information?

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)18:36
No.4801410

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)18:36 No.4801410

>>4801255
Again, brave straw knight.
I ask you.

By what right do you feel you can legally demand the Governor of Hawaii, and the Hawaiian State Congress, bypass their own laws and unlock the vault which stores every Hawaiian citizen's original birth record for the general populace to allow inbreds from West Virginia to paw through them?

Why would you denounce SOPA, NDAA and the Patriot Act .. but advocate the federal government to march in and throw confidential health information and the means of self identification into the wind?

Surely you must not be a libertarian or Ron Paul supporter..

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)18:39
No.4801472

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)18:39 No.4801472

>>4801407
> A simple question, though - why would Obongo spend so much money on lawyers over months and months of time, to supress all of this information?

A simple answer. And the first question answered here. >>4800554

He hasn't. He has spent $0 "hiding" his birth certificate. His birth certificate is hidden, by default, with every other Hawaiian Born Citizens birth record, in accordance to Hawaiian law.

Just as yours is owned by the state government in which you were born, and hidden by your state registrar from the public record.

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)18:41
No.4801511

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)18:41 No.4801511

>>4801410
Different people.
>>4801255
>>4801407
Good job, though, Mr 'Oldfag' IBM employee.

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)18:53
No.4801689

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)18:53 No.4801689

>>4801472
Again, going on and on about shit nobody cares about.
Yes, we know that nobody can go and look at his document. Everyone gets that, it's the only point you keep grinding on and on about.

Your point, then, is that the birth certificate is the only document in the world that governments, agencies or anyone else, could never manipulate, correct?
This is what you keep hinting at, and that whole picture basically says "You can't look at it, you can't look at it, you can't look at it, some guy said it was legit, it must be because he is immune to any and all things anyone could do to affect this, and nobody could ever forge this in any way, it's impossible."

Even the people that made the system couldn't have forged it, even the people who have access to everything.
There's thousands of agents in the world, they infiltrate the highest levels of government in some cases, yet you have the audacity to declare Obongos birth certificate (not necessarily birth certificate - what I mean is whatever document there is, the one he gave a faked digital copy of and refuse to show the actual original of) is a document which nobody could ever have faked. Right.

You can do anything with enough money and connections, except fake a birth certificate, because you worked there.
It's like saying "I worked the FBI and I never saw anything like that happen, you needed top clearance for everything and everything is logged, clearly nobody could ever fake anything. The system is 100% secure. Even the old files before we had this system can't have been tampered with or faked. Nope, it's impossible."

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)19:16
No.4802053

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)19:16 No.4802053

>>4801689
The databases are designed with triggers in place to identify modifications to a record. Because yes, some records get modified. (adoptions, paternity changes).

The id's are created in sequential order. The presidents record number is 1961-010640 because he was the 10,640th record entered. Someone else next in line in the inbox was assigned 1961-010641, and so on. With about 14,000 births that year. Thus, an INSERT INTO is impossible. Only an UPDATE SET is possible. This is basic data management. Consider it a law of technology, not unlike a law of physics.

The records showcase to data operators (order entry people in the call center) which ones have been modified.

Order entry operators can look up anybody's information. I personally looked up in laws and Phil Knights just out of curiosity. As with most order entry centers, there is an awful attrition rate - a very high employee turnover rate. Most others, like me, get a job in vital stats, get some skills, and get out.

So it stands to reason that anybody hired by Hawaiian vital stats could between July 2000 and present could have looked up the presidents birth record. And probably have.

None of those .. dozens if not hundreds of call center flunkies have reported seeing a flag that shows a modification.

The databases storing the data printed by the call center are offline. Thus, someone with state level access would have to update someone else's record (id # 1961-010640), remove the trigger (exceptionally difficult if not technologically impossible), and seek out the original person assigned record # 1961-010640 and kill them, and eliminate all traces of them from society or history.

Now tell me.
How likely is this?

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)19:32
No.4802308

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)19:32 No.4802308

The way I look at it is that the whole idea of Obama having a fake birth certificate makes no sense.

If there's some powerful cabal out there, why would they need or want to get some guy from Kenya into the White House? If they want a pawn in the white house, wouldn't it be easier to just get a "real" American?

Randy Butternubs
08/12/12(Sun)19:38
No.4802406

Randy Butternubs 08/12/12(Sun)19:38 No.4802406

Obviously the Jews made up this controversy because they're afraid Obama is the anti-Christ.

Randy Butternubs
08/12/12(Sun)19:39
No.4802438

Randy Butternubs 08/12/12(Sun)19:39 No.4802438

>>4802308

BECAUSE THE LIBERALS HATE MURCA THATS WHY

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)19:46
No.4802542

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)19:46 No.4802542

>During the 2008 election, some conservatives demand that Obama presents his birth certificate; they state that if he has nothing to hide, he should have no issue with presenting it
>OH MY GOD CONSPIRACY TINFOIL HAT NUTJOBS, I BET YOU ALSO THINK THE WORLD IS CONTROLLED BY LIZARD PEOPLE

>During the 2012 election, some liberals demand that Romney presents his tax returns; they claim that if he has nothing to hide, he should have no issue with presenting them
>WHAT, HE'S NOT DOING IT? HE MUST NOT PAY ANY TAXES AT ALL

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)19:47
No.4802570

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)19:47 No.4802570

Obama is a nigger born in Kenya.

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)19:50
No.4802642

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)19:50 No.4802642

>>4802542
During the 2008 presidential election, it was legally impossible for Senator Barack Hussein Obama to obtain a long form copy of his birth certificate from the State of Hawaii. Hawaii has ownership of the original, and abolished the practice of issuing long forms in 2001.

Governor Willard Mitt Romney owns the copies of his older tax records, and could produce these at any time if he wanted to.

Anonymous
08/12/12(Sun)19:51
No.4802660

Anonymous 08/12/12(Sun)19:51 No.4802660

>>4802570
And you're a cousin fucker born in your mothers dresser drawer.