You wouldn't download a gun, would you?http://www.forbes.com/sites/markgibbs/2012/07/28/the-end-of-gun-control/Oh wait...
No I would just torrent it off Piratebayhttp://thepiratebay.se/torrent/7483897/AR-15_Lower_Receiver___5rd_Magazine
It just means that in order to enact full gun control, you'd have to completely control the internet to regulate the downloads. And regulate physical transfer of information so people can't just hand off a USB stick with the gun on it. And regulate what people read so they can't learn how to build a gun from scratch by reading old blueprints. And regulate what people think so they can't just design a gun on a computer from memory or invent one themselves.
Or regulate the ammo which seems to be the new tact taken by gun control advocates.
>>4543162But what happens when you can print the ammo off?
Just one more reason the government will try to regulate the netThey'll be unable to though, of courseThat article warmed my heart, thanks OP
Good, I am glad we will have a better armed society
>>4543162Yeah, but you can already make ammo at home relatively easily.The gun is the hard part what with all the engineering and testing that goes into it.
Try to fire a round with the printed plastic shit and it will explode in your face
>>4543173Printing the case and the bullet would be easy enough but without a primer or gunpowder you just have a pretty little bauble.
>>4543218"When the weapon was assembled with the printed receiver HaveBlue reported he fired 200 rounds and it operated perfectly."
>>4543225As someone in the last thread mentioned you could just buy fireworks and take the powder out.
>>4543212no, the ammo requires some sort of ignition substance that you cant print out
Here's one. It works too. If they ban assault rifles, I'll just print more up. Fuck tha police.
>>4543258Graphene will fix it.Graphene will fix all problems with everything ever.
>>4543284When can I into graphene?
>>4543054>Printing your own AR Lowers>Print a Lower out of whatever you want.>Bread AR>Cheese AR>Nerf ARHow is this not the next step of weapon development?
>>4543054Th first thing that some idiot will do it print an automatic receiver and attach it to a regular ar-15.. They could already do this i think with current equipment if someone just puts a little time into it...of course this is very stupid, you will be locked away fora very long time
>>4543329Wikipedia?Graphene can self repairGraphene can photosynthesisGraphene is 1 atom thick but 200 times stronger then steelGraphene can distill waterGraphene can be printed
>>4543369wrong pic sorry
AIRSOFT GUNS FOR EVERYONE!!!
>>4543386sovereignty in the modern age.it cannot be stopped
Would not a plastic receiver be ridiculously dangerous to use?
>>4543352>>4543368looks like i know what im doing this weekend
>>4543482high end ones can into metal.also>fired 200 rounds and it worked perfectly
>>4543482ARs are primarily made out of plastic.
>>4543225Nitrocellulose is very easy to make, as it only involves nitrating cellulose.Gunpowder is even easier.
>>4543284>>4543328Graphine won't fix it, but there are clay substances and ovens you can use. I can easily imagine a future wherein weapons can be printed and then assembled on-demand and ammunition can be similarly made. I mean, you'll have to buy either bags of primers or print out hollow shells of something ignitable like magnesium for the primers. I'm still waiting for my caseless, electrically-fired assault rifle with ceramic explosive rounds. Naturally, it should have an IR laser rangefinder that auto-adjusts and have adaptive optics for low-light, IR, etc. It will someday happen. Hell, we already have "smart" bullets.
So basically Deus Ex HR is our future?Graphene is flexible so Jensen's glasses are possible.
>>4543386So, when? Its not like I can buy graphene at wallmart now, right?
>>4543555They just discovered it. Expect it in wide commercial use by 2015
http://www.wikihow.com/Make-Gunpowderhow do i into gunpowder? oh wait
>>4543482Not necessarily. There are commercial plastic AR's. They have gotten mixed reviews, and break before an aluminum one would, but I wouldn't call them dangerous.>>4543501This is false. On a standard AR the plastic parts are the stock, grip, and foreend. The same parts that were made out of wood on firearms before it.
>>4543532the sovereign revolution is the futureinternet shall replace governmentautomation shall make subsistence farming economically feasiblefree info shall educate the masses without masters.people shall create and defend their own.master and slave shall perish form the earth
>>4543579how do you make it?i'd prefer making it.
Check out this 3D printing video. >tough durable prints>ability to make changes on the fly>can print multiple moving objects with 1 piece
>>4543637Expect government to go into this age kicking and screaming.
Incoming completed control and regulation of the internet detected.
>>4543662I assume you need a lab at the moment, did a quick search and found thishttp://physicsworld.com/cws/article/multimedia/2011/sep/29/how-to-make-grapheneDunno if that helps
>>4543669whoops!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aghzpO_UZE
>>4543689of coursebut they will fall
I've always though of it this way The most successful criminals wear suits The most successful anarchists wear pocket protectors
>>4543699In this special video report, Physics World reporter James Dacey visits Geim and Novoselev's laboratory at the University of Manchester to learn how graphene is created and why it is so special. To begin, Dacey meets researcher Branson Belle who demonstrates the famous "Scotch tape" method for isolating graphene. This surprisingly simple technique involves placing a sample of graphite onto sticky tape and then folding and peeling the tape several times to create progressively thinner layers of graphite – eventually leading to a single layer of carbonlooks like all I need is scotch tapescience has saved us finally, no more masters no more slaves.
Does this mean I can download people into 3d objects?I'm fairly sure it does.
>>4543662They made it first in the lab with sticky tape and a pencil. It wasn't of much use in small quantities and you couldn't make a sheet of it like that but it wasn't some particularly hightech discovery.
>>4543699Making graphene.. every single person here has already made graphene without even realizing it.. Take a piece of tape and stick it to a pencil tip, pull it off.. repeat process.. you now have grahpehne.. but its fucking invisible.. Making it isn't the real problem. the problem is how to make it into something useful.
>>4543736>The most successful anarchists wear pocket protectorsI like it.
>>4543756It really is a magic matieral.Everyday we discover more and more about it. Everyday its strength over steel increases, the more we learn about Graphene the more wonderful it becomes
YEAH GOOD LUCK BUYING AN INDUSTRIAL LEVEL 3D PRINTER for like 20kYour shitty 2,000 makerbot that uses shitty ABS won't be able to make a gun that wont melt after a couple of shots
>>4543736LONG LIVE THE CNT!!
We must buy all the pencils and scotch tape from the local stores immediatelyConsider it an investmentThen, once we have tons of the stuff, we can sell it at a profit
>>4543798The cool thing about 3d printers is they are going down in cost every year. Soon personal fabricators will have the same detail as a professional one but be under $1000.
>>4543798
>>4543689what about you?
>>4543819Also 3d printers can already print their own parts!What happens when ma and pa start selling printers for $300? The prices will drop and continue to drop.
>>4543736It's true. You want to know the most truly dangerous demographic on Earth? Scientists and engineers. Well, properly motivated scientists and engineers. One pissed off patriot militia type is dangerous, yes. If he has some organic or physical chemistry, he's MUCH more dangerous. People don't realize just how potentially destructive or disruptive a science education can be. Fortunately for everyone, most of us are sane and our "Bond Villain" side is firmly under control.
>>4543819Protip: Every new technology goes down in cost over time.
>>4543218high end 3d printers can use metals and ceramics now
>>4543839You can have one for $300 now. You just make it yourself.http://reprap.org/wiki/RepRapEveryone needs to visit there.
>>4543839I was having a conversation about utter self sufficany and sovereignty in the modern age, and saying that people would have their own personal foundry's to make replacement parts for their weapons/defenses/ and agricultural automatons, but this..... this makes things... this changes everything.
>>4543234>"When the weapon was assembled with the printed receiver HaveBlue reported he fired 200 rounds and it operated perfectly."Dumbass only the receiver was plastic, try making the barrel out of shitty ABS and enjoy your gun melting
>>4543637thisthe government will try to oppress us and then this will happen
>>4543890actually a pistol was already made entirely out of abs plastic.. yeah it jammed after a short period of time.. but it still fired without melting
>>4543890Still, this makes the assembly of a functional AR15 much more easy and cheap. Not having to buy a lower is a major step.
>>4543885You've probably heard of this but incase you haven't.opensourceecology.org/ (down temporarily, will be back soon I guess, was up a few hours ago).en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Source_Ecology_(project) In the mean time.And here too >>4543884
All hail the gift economy
>>4543890then print it with some scotch tape carbonor metal
>>4543885You might as well throw out any visions of the future. Between 3D printing, Graphene, Organ Printing, and Skin printing (both of which we can do today) the future is upon us
>>4543819>The cool thing about 3d printers is they are going down in cost every year. Soon personal fabricators will have the same detail as a professional one but be under $1000.None of these CHEAP 3d printers can print gun parts. They print using the same shitty plastic that is used to make toys from Macdonalds.
>>4543949Here's a pic of the things you can potentially make.
Anybody ITT have love for biohackers? It's not 3d printing, but it's catching on. As bioinformatics, sequencing, and proteonomics (need high-end computing) become cheaper and more accessible, the manipulation or outright creation of organisms is going to get easier. Hell, most modern large molecule drugs are infinitely cheaper to make thanks to synthetic biology. I've personally ordered viral DNA, inserted into cells, and gotten virus. It's pretty basic stuff, but it was almost impossible only 20 years ago.
Whats all this fucking hysteria about, only 4percent of gun homicides are cause by rifles, let alone the really scary ones! oooooh. More chance of dying by falling furnituree. libtards. 4 real.
>>4544009ABS isn't shitty plastic.
Don't copy that glocky!-Paid for by the NRA
>>4544013grow ideas in the garden of ur mind
>>4544021Yes it is, take any Macdonalds toy and squeeze it, it will break in like 2 seconds
>>4544013Correct. You think it, you can print it.
a. the illegal gun market is already hereb. you will still get a long sentence in a niggerrape dungeon for thisalso hurrr what are raw materials costs?
>>4544036Do you know what ABS is?
>>4544013er let's not get carried away This guy printed the little square in the middle of the rifle I think
>>4544039Nah this isn't printing it's a OS farming project, but still very much related to the direction we're headed.
>>4544013ABHA GAH GA GA GAHso much yesThe sons of liberty shall be reborn in the modern age...
3T's Metal Additive Manufacturing process http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRv4jp-hhBEEconomics of 3D Printing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5K69e_VwuQ&feature=related
>>4544052>>4544052http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChKwIUhx_icIts alot cooler then you thought
>>4543825Me? I'm preparing every way I know how. Got my weapons, got my food, I'm educating myself in various sciences so I have a basic handle of how things work... Also I'm designing a flag so that me and my family can designate our sovereignty.
>>4544052I should have explained myself better, those aren't to be printed but built in a workshop.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Source_Ecology_%28project%29
ABS is hardcore fuckin plastic4/10
Reposting this from last thread>Put graphene printer on wheels>Make design for national elevated road grid.>Dig holes about 20 feet deep for every pilar>Place wheeled graphene printers in holes.>execute roadgrid.file>Grahpene printers build columns in all the holes >once at sufficient height start extending out road way to link up with other pillars>print off-ramps that lead to every garage. >Multiple road levels are printed so that no intersections exist >all roadways merge on different levels>all road surface now maintained automatically by wheeled printing bots>now drive from point A to point B without ever stopping or breaking at autobahn speeds + 100mph drive downtown in a few minutes, or drive to next city in less than 10.>All road space at ground level is now free to be replaced with nature streams rivers, trees crops gardens extra living space ect.Welcome to future worldPost some more cool ideas faggots
>>4543821>tomato not a fruitwhat the fuck? that image is great, but that tomato part is actually right.
>>4543054we are on the verge of inventing universal constructors and moving to a post-scarcity civilization and you idiots are worried about gun control?
Seriously 2020 is going to be way different then what we imagined
>>4544091Sovereignty? Join, or die.Seriously, you have a FAMILY. Don't force the fatal consequences of your little cosplay fantasy on them.
>>4544124Oh here we go again printing a gun receiver is not the same as printing a car
>>4544124Guns will be necessary to stop the elite from preventing post-scarcity civilization.You think greedy corporations and bankers will go quietly into the night?
>get a nasty scrape in an accident>go home to my skin printer>put my arm in and get a new layer of skin2027
>>4544124>we are on the verge of inventing universal constructors and moving to a post-scarcity civilizationIf it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.
The coppers smashed my father’s printer when I was eight. I remember the hot, cling-film-in-a-microwave smell of it, and Da’s look of ferocious concentration as he filled it with fresh goop, and the warm, fresh-baked feel of the objects that came out of it.The coppers came through the door with truncheons swinging, one of them reciting the terms of the warrant through a bullhorn. One of Da’s customers had shopped him. The ipolice paid in high-grade pharmaceuticals—performance enhancers, memory supplements, metabolic boosters. The kind of thing that cost a fortune over the counter; the kind of thing you could print at home, if you didn’t mind the risk of having your kitchen filled with a sudden crush of big, beefy bodies, hard truncheons whistling through the air, smashing anyone and anything that got in the way.They destroyed grandma’s trunk, the one she’d brought from the old country. They smashed our little refrigerator and the purifier unit over the window. My tweetybird escaped death by hiding in a corner of his cage as a big, booted foot crushed most of it into a sad tangle of printer-wire.Da. What they did to him. When he was done, he looked like he’d been brawling with an entire rugby side. They brought him out the door and let the newsies get a good look at him as they tossed him in the car, while a spokesman told the world that my Da’s organized-crime bootlegging operation had been responsible for at least twenty million in contraband, and that my Da, the desperate villain, had resisted arrest.
>>4544151But we already have printed a motorcylce....
>print out machine to make 3d printing material>make your own 3d printing material>print replacement parts for when it breaks down>HOLY FUCK>profitwe've hit the technological equivalent of perpetual motionall the energy could come form an at home wind turbine.
>>4544124Yup. We're still a ways from post-scarcity, but it's certainly on the horizon. As materials from asteroids and abundant energy become a reality, technology to exploit these things will also develop. The world is going to become a crazy place.
>>4544146>ForceThat would defeat the point. Voluntary interaction only.
>>4544186I saw it all from my phone, in the remains of the sitting room, watching it on the screen and wondering how, just how anyone could look at our little flat and our terrible, manky estate and mistake it for the home of an organized crime kingpin. They took the printer away, of course, and displayed it like a trophy for the newsies. Its little shrine in the kitchenette seemed horribly empty. When I roused myself and picked up the flat and rescued my peeping poor tweetybird, I put a blender there. It was made out of printed parts, so it would only last a month before I’d need to print new bearings and other moving parts. Back then, I could take apart and reassemble anything that could be printed.By the time I turned eighteen, they were ready to let Da out of prison. I’d visited him three times—on my tenth birthday, on his fiftieth, and when Ma died. It had been two years since I’d last seen him and he was in bad shape. A prison fight had left him with a limp, and he looked over his shoulder so often it was like he had a tic. I was embarrassed when the minicab dropped us off in front of the estate, and tried to keep my distance from this ruined, limping skeleton as we went inside and up the stairs.“Lanie,” he said, as he sat me down. “You’re a smart girl, I know that. Trig. You wouldn’t know where your old Da could get a printer and some goop?”
>>4544189You still need raw materials. You can't just make the plastic out of electricity.
>>4544201I squeezed my hands into fists so tight my fingernails cut into my palms. I closed my eyes. “You’ve been in prison for ten years, Da. Ten. Years. You’re going to risk another ten years to print out more blenders and pharma, more laptops and designer hats?”He grinned. “I’m not stupid, Lanie. I’ve learned my lesson. There’s no hat or laptop that’s worth going to jail for. I’m not going to print none of that rubbish, never again.” He had a cup of tea, and he drank it now like it was whisky, a sip and then a long, satisfied exhalation. He closed his eyes and leaned back in his chair.“Come here, Lanie, let me whisper in your ear. Let me tell you the thing that I decided while I spent ten years in lockup. Come here and listen to your stupid Da.”I felt a guilty pang about ticking him off. He was off his rocker, that much was clear. God knew what he went through in prison. “What, Da?” I said, leaning in close.“Lanie, I’m going to print more printers. Lots more printers. One for everyone. That’s worth going to jail for. That’s worth anything.”
>>4544202the raw materials are cheap. Just imagine once everything being printed is graphene.
>>4544117my creation is getting copy pasta'd..yes the free market is making it happen!!
>>4544202if the raw materials is silicon or graphene, they are incredibly commonmost raw materials are, its the synthesizing thats the problem, but if you print out a synthesizing machine...
So did all of you guys fail 8th Grade physical science or what? I mean like all of you.
>>4544202Can you make plastics from plant oils though? If so you could grow your own.>hemp plastic
>>4544202yea you can.>air condensing tank>separate out the CO2>put it through electrolysis>microassembler used the carbon to make plastics all of that could be done with enough power.
>>4544192abundant energy shall come form your own personal wind or water powered turbine.everyone shall be sovereign and the internet shall replace government.HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
>>4544187wowCant wait till I can download Bugatti plans and drive around like a badass, who cares if everyone has one.
>Space Mininghttp://www.planetaryresources.com/>Mars Colonyhttp://mars-one.com/en/>Free Educationhttp://www.khanacademy.org/And 3D printing.I'm forgetting a bunch of stuff, but damn am I glad to be living in this era. We're either going to enter a new era of post-scarcity enlightment, or we're going to destroy ourselves in a massive conflagration of glory.
>>4544050Yes I actually work at a company that makes 3d printersThe shit that gets printed out is easily breakableI have also worked with fiberglass, other plastics like polyethylene, various other esters and epoxys. Abs is an insanely weak plastic
>>4544262not being sarcasticjust laughing in natures facegoodbye natural selection, hello artificial selection!good bye master/slave, hellos sovereign!Good by economy, hello automated personal farms!
I HAVE BEEN FILLED WITH UNBENOUNCED HOPE TODAY!!!The hardest challenge still awaits us however....
>>4544263I cant wait till we print moon/mars bases and spaceships and space stations
>>4544312or seasteads!
>>4544291http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abs_plastic#Properties
>Send 3D printer to mars.>It prints rover to gather raw materials for printer>It prints out prefabricated living units which are assembled by printed robots>Within a year or two a whole colony is built>Send humans to their fully functional home on mars.
>>4544146you dont understandpeople who attempt sovereignty will undoubtedly be attacked by master/slave sociteys (all sociteys) for some stupid reason or another.And when that happens sovereign people will either choose to help each other or not and wait till they get attacked themselves. but that is the whole point, choice. having the personal power required to be free.
>>4543054With 3d printing technology, the die has been cast. What will the future bring?
Makerbot Replicatorhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTuL_nKSKFgget to work anonsIts happening..but not like anything we imagined..not alike anything we could have possibly imagined
>>4544360Oh god this, why cant NASA or anyone in space realize this?
Anarchists are monitoring this thread...
>>4544287were entering a period of sovereign individualsbasically the original American dream shall be fully realized. There will be no more sociteys as we know them now.
Both this article and this thread put a smile on my face. Is the gun legal if I put a serial number on it?
>>4544394you cant put a serial on a gun unless you are a manufacturer.. Check your state laws.. in many states as long as its for personal use.. no serial required
On one hand, technology promises a glorious future of unprecedented freedom and luxury.On the other hand, there is so much that threatens to destroy that future before it can be realized.Which way modern man?
Does it matter?Build it anyways
>>4544382>Technoarchy>using chinese 主HAO HAO GWEILO
>>4544291>ABS's light weight and ability to be injection molded and extruded make it useful in manufacturing products such as drain-waste-vent (DWV) pipe systems, musical instruments (recorders, plastic clarinets, and piano movements), golf club heads (due to its good shock absorbance), automotive trim components, automotive bumper bars, medical devices for blood access, enclosures for electrical and electronic assemblies, protective headgear, whitewater canoes, buffer edging for furniture and joinery panels, luggage and protective carrying cases, small kitchen appliances, and toys, including Lego bricks.[8]I think you're telling us porkie pies.Tell us about printing fibreglass then?
CAN WE BUILD IT?FUCK YES WE CAN, AND FOR CHEAP
>>4544393Yes, but some people are either unwilling or unable to take responsibility for their own lives, and will violently act out when they aren't kept in control by force. Others can't stand to see people acting in ways they don't approve of and will not want to lose the power to enforce their own behavioral norms. Neither of these groups will willingly cede the era of the state.Authoritarians will be the human challenge.http://members.shaw.ca/jeanaltemeyer/drbob/TheAuthoritarians.pdfThe only question is which group wins out.
>>4544446So... The Culture?
>>4544340>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abs_plastic#Properties>Dumbass who knows nothing about plasticsSeriously kid? Learn about Thermoplastics vs Thermoset Resinshttp://composite.about.com/od/aboutcompositesplastics/a/Thermoplastic-Vs-Thermoset-Resins.htmABS is thermoplastic, which by definition is SHITTIER than thermo setting resins. Nigger, do you know fiberglass? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3CuPjLjhjkVide related, generic fiberglass stopping bulletsIf you work in the palstic industry you will know that there are plenty of plastics stronger than fiberglassAbs is primarily used to make shitty consumer products
Here is a really, really, really, rough draft of my soverign flaguse it if you wantthe symbolism is the pushing away of heaven and hell to create your own infinite existence. red white and blue for liberty nostalgia
>>4544497I like it, but I'm not going to steal it.
>>4544497....Can I be your neighbor?
>>4544489http://www.strongwell.com/selected_markets/ballistic_panels/Ballistic panels made from fiberglass
>>4544489And canoes and car components and protective carrying cases? All weak as shit.Just admit it, you got told. And now you're mad and furiously googling to prove me wrong.
>>4544446as long as sovereign people understand that they are nations un and to themselves and must behave as such i.e. the greatest thing a nation should strive for is martial superiority, they should be fine.as in, learn and practice military tactics.
>>4544489I told you to tells us about the process of printing with fibreglass, not the strengths of fibreglass, which is well known.
I wish I had a group of like minded people near me so we could help each other achieve this sovereignty.smart poor fag surrounded by idiots and lazy bastards here.
>>4544575I could printout the machine that synthesizes it.
Gentlemen you were born at the right time. Under the age of 35? Congratulations on having an expected life span of 140+You will see a space elevator builtYou will see a mars colonyYou will see driverless carsYou will see organs grown just for youYou will see volumetric 3D displays, and screenless displaysYou will see power armorIf you can not get in an accident or killed by israel nukes then chances are you are going to be immortal. You may have a lifelike cyborg body or maybe you will just replace failing parts. The most extreme of us may end up mind uploading themselves into computers. You thought Ghost in a Shell was just an anime? Think again.We live right now on the cusp of the future. And its more wonderful then anything Blade Runner, Deus Ex, or star wars could dream of.
>>4544544no ABS is used in Canoes and some parts of the car.But for car parts its mostly made for shitty things that don't take loadspic related its a MAP sensor taht typically found in cars, it is primarily made from ABS. A typical canoe or carrying case made out of ABS would break from a hammer hit.Its mostly used in toys, because it is CHEAP AND SHITTY, melts easily, and breaks in two hits. DO you know how hot a gun barrel gets? You do realize that abs melts at 200. You are a fucking retard if you think that one of the shitty ABS plastic suitcases you can buy is STRONG
>>4544673
>>4544673I dunno about all that, but I am looking forward to the sovereign revolutionremember, do not attack, but defend to absolution(kill whoever attacks you)command no one and do not let yourself be commanded(unless you want to)personal power means do what you want.
>>4544651That doesn't mean anything. You said you work at a 3D printing manufacturer and work with fibreglass, in what context? Are you laying up the fabric then covering it with epoxy using the printer?
>>4544673But will we be happy?or are we all going to have cameras in our house and will universal science be banned?
>>4544691then use graphene i got scotch tape
I fucking love 3d printers. That shit right there is absolute freedom and prosperity.>use 3d printers to make even better 3d printersBeautiful.
>>4544691That shit doesnt break in two hits, it sits under the hood of a very hot environment with all kinds of petroleum chemcials leaking around.. you want to get that shit off hitting it with a wrench wont do it, youll have to use vice grips or a hack saw..
>>4544714no, thats what the sovereign thing is about.
>>4544575guy who works with 3d printers again, I also worked with fiberglass in the past.Typically you would buy the chemicals, and once you mix them together the chemicals form a super hard plastic that hardens irreversibly. You would then typically mix some sort of fiber like chopped strand mat or woving roving or nexus veil etc.... to make it stronger
>>4544673Don't forget nuclear propulsion in the form of nuclear thermal rockets, nuclear-powered VASIMR, and even nuclear pulse propulsion. Someday, massive solar-powered accelerators will make antimatter to catalyze fusion reactions. Hell, "torchships" aren't all that far-off a concept.
>>4544691i can print that.
You better fucking believe I would.Even the very concept of a gun is are easy to improvise / manufacture even now if you want to go to jail, its the ammunition and pressure tolerances that are the hard part
>>4544712>>4544673I love you guys. I'm also increasingly annoyed at small-minded people who seek control over this development and each other, rather than letting it free to develop into our glorious future.
>>4544691Which is funny as I've seen many APS plastic products hit with hammers and survive.You know why?Because ones of it's main properties is HIGH IMPACT RESISTANCE.As has been stated clearly in several sources throughout this thread.And we've never aid you could use it as a gun barrel, but you started off claiming you could crush it with your hands.Who's the retard now?
I am just glad we are all going forwards together. Maybe one day I will meet you when our seastead flotillas gather. Or maybe it will be when we immigrate to Mars on the same ship. Perhaps in a virtual internet version of /pol/?I'm glad I am human you guys.
>>4544713I worked in the past with fiberglassCurrently I work with a 3d printing company that does ABS, and that thing is so shitty and weak compared to the plastics I used to work with
>>4544413But you are the manufacturer...
>>4544753fiberglass..its alright.. i used to make surfboards.. its lightweight and strong.. but its very brittle, two surfboards collide at low speeds (light weight) they will crack or ding, same board made of epoxy or plastic.. no crack no ding, im sure fiberlass is lighter more rigid and stronger though
>>4544769>increasingly annoyed at small-minded people who seek control over this developmentYou sir, are officially a bro. I feel the exact same way. Let the future be free I say.
>>4544793Which is why it's used in all sorts of mid strength environments?
OK kids let's do it again.The most important mechanical properties of ABS are impact resistance and toughness. A variety of modifications can be made to improve impact resistance, toughness, and heat resistance. The impact resistance can be amplified by increasing the proportions of polybutadiene in relation to styrene and also acrylonitrile, although this causes changes in other properties. Impact resistance does not fall off rapidly at lower temperatures. Stability under load is excellent with limited loads. Thus, changing the proportions of its components ABS can be prepared in different grades. Two major categories could be ABS for extrusion and ABS for injection moulding, then high and medium impact resistance. Generally ABS would have useful characteristics within a temperature range from -20 to 80 °C (-4 to 176 °F)
>bickering about abs plastic when we are discussing a machine that can basically print FUCKING ANYTHING.give it 10 years and well have graphene or whatever the fuck else some fuck comes up with as an alternative.
>>4544814Fiberglass guy here againThere are different types of fiberglassThere are over 100 different resins, and over 100 different hardeners. You can mix many combinations of these to get plastics with various strengths and weaknesses. The strength is also greatly effected by your fiber materials like nexus veil/woven/roving/chopped strand matWoven roving is insanely strong
We need a faster, cheaper, more precise CNC mill for < $500 to go with the 3d printeroh and some software to turn a 3d model into a set of CNC instructions
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/07/30/3d_printed_assault_rifle/
all you skepticalfags are going to be jelly when i fly my 3d printed F15 places. so jelly.
The most common plastic used in the world is ABSABS is typically used to make things like Legos and other toys. Shit like food containers etc..It is definitely not considered a strong plastic.
so this is like the standard template construct?
>>4544896If 3d printing is going to be stifled or controlled, it's going to be by alarmists using lines of reasoning similar to this.
>>4544927Yeah imagine a 3d printer with every sort of blueprint in it.
i just want a sex robot. nothing more
>>4544949Fuck yeah, I want one too. The best way is 3d printers.>3d printers can bring my waifu to real life
>>4544949Synthetic biology can help with that. No need for artificial vaginas when you could, potentially, grow a real one and keep it hooked up to nutrient feeds.
>>4544920Are people itt deliberately being anti-intellectual or am I the only one seeing this evidence that proves you wrong?
>>4544935it will be, don't you see? thats the pointwhat starts a revolution in earnest? tyranny.there will be the traditional revolution led by the delusional communists and the like, and the sovereign revolution.
>>4544970or you can buy a blow up doll
>>4544992I don't think I have to explain why a blow up doll is vastly inferior to a sexbot.
>>4544988What the fuck is soverign revolution?is that like a retarded way of saying your an anti authoritarian?Well whatever you are ill leave your house alone. but i will come by once a year to see if you want to partake in the community festivities. ill bring offerings of organic treats and 3d objects of love making.
>[UPDATE] HaveBlue uploaded his digital model to several 3D model archives and at least one, Makerbot, has since banned gun designswow. no balls, man
>>4545054Doesn't really matter. We can just get gun designs from somewhere else.
>>4545045Its the idea that man has no right to govern anyone but himself.Basically, I grow my own food, build my own shit, and defend my own shit.If everyone did this people would have a very hard time dominating each otherall wars would be reduced to minor conflicts over keeping master/slave dichotomy form reemerging.
>tfw the pirate bay created a category for 3d designs months ago>tfw demonoid will still have all of the cool shit 5 years from now when this is useful
>>4545011we have the technology
>>4545054yeah but their leaving his up for a bit.could be a fbu honey pot. fire up those proxies
>>4545068I know man, but still
>>4545076What about people who can't or won't grow and build their own shit?
http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/7477522/AR15_IGES_files_for_Machining_(Upper_Lower_Handle)THE SPICE MUST FLOW
>>4545054your going to need to learn and develop skills.all sovereignty is based on personal power, which comes in the form of knowledgego learn coding and how to deep weband fighting armed and un armedand everything engineeringespecially these printers and their "ink"
>>4545076>implying rednecks are not way ahead of you
>>4545107downloading just to have it before big brother snatches it down
>>4545113implying rednecks are smart enough to employ the technology necessary to keep the usa army form killing them.
>>4545076Good job, I support you wholeheartedly and would also like to do the same thing as you in the future.
great excuse to regulate the internet
>that feel when Canadian liberal and will finally be able to have all the guns I want regardless of how the rest of the country feelsYES
If you would print weapons you seriously lack creativity. Anything you could possibly want and you would just waste it on pointless things like that...
>>4545104>guns>automated adrino gardens>3d printersat this rate a wheel chair bound person could do it.but physical athleticism and competence would definitively be a plus.
>>4545128They seem pretty obsessed about that particular kind of technology
>>4545104thats where anarchism steps in.this "sovereign" idea could work in a libertarian society.There would no doubt be anarcho-communists inb4 HURR DURR I HEARD COMMIE IM TURNING OFF.who would teach people infinite ways to sustain themselves. whether or not they want to stay within the community is up to them.in fact thats happening now, the 3d project is bassed around free info and free learning.
>>4545161Its not you can only make 1 thing. Its I can make weapons as well as all these other wonderful things
>>4545146The future?if you havn't noticed thats now.prepare while you can.if you have to ride the regular revolution to get the resources to set up, good luck, but id be getting shit together now if i could.
>>4545187I don't have a problem with anarcho-commies, the black bloc retards and "all of those communists statist governments weren't actually communists" guys have to be exiled though.
>>4545205Well, I have to get the money to own land first, and figure out how to build a home without puttting myself in debt for 30-50 years. But yes, I would agree with you. Preparing sooner is definitely better than later.
>>4545187It wouldnt be anarchism, it wouldnt be society either.something like this has never been done before.but yeah, people would do what they want pretty much
........We.....We could print our own decentralised floating homesteads and link them up at sea.....
>>4545081Sauce on this?
>>4545245Personally Im trying to form a group in my area with the goal of individual sovereigntymy plan was we would buy a plot of land with pooled resources and then grow weed and legally sell it to medical dispensary. or write computer code or whatever. and use the money to get everyone set up. It's a radical idea to alot of people and most are to scared and lazy, but I'll find some.
GrapheneIts creators have hailed it ‘as versatile as all the plastics put together.’ The list of potential uses by various people are huge and range from exciting and futuristic to dull but kind of useful. From paper-thin phones you can roll behind your ear, super computers, wallpaper-thin lighting panels and the next generation of aircraft to super sensitive gas sensors, 100% air-tight coatings, and an alternative to carbon-fibre bodywork, Graphene is being touted to be as defining to our age as bronze was to stone-age men. It can even be used to distil alcohol.
>>4545245Make sure you bone up on preparing your soil, and get familiar with local rainwater laws.http://www.resilientcommunities.com/has a good newsletter/article feed.
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>>4545326or build a greenhouse
>>4545288>group>individual sovereigntyGood luck sport
>>4545195You could print anything you ever dreamed of and that would be near the top of your list? That's just dissapointing, there are 1000s of things i would get before boredom sets in.The common fool would print weapons, money and other pointless shit.
>>4545294I just want blade runner arcology and space elevators.
>>4545359The top of my list is printing off a car, then maybe a house.
>>4545288Putting a group together could be feasible for me, but I don't own any property which is a pretty big negative. I do want to build a primarily passive solar design house so I can avoid central air conditioning systems (heating is completely useless in my climate) and other such expenses. I really don't know much about the building codes in my area (I'll definitely break them), but I'm pretty sure that if I do most of the actual construction myself, then it won't break any laws. (Obviously, I'd hire some guy to put in electricity and plumbing since I don't have that kind of skill). The problem, is coming up with a feasible design. Most likely, I'll start small scale using some 3d printers and stuff to measure the temperature and what not.
>>4545235Well the blac bloc was actually formed in germany during the 80s to help squat people into houses in eviction defense. [also to create alternative sustainable radical living spaces to test all these theories of sustainability and freedom].inb4 hurrr durrr you didnt earn that empty huse!!!it has since evolved into helping in the defense of all those peraceful protest libtards from literally being killed by the police.there are countless instances where the black bloc served to liberate the "permitted marchers" by breaking through the police barricades [doing the nitty gritty work] and allowing all the libs and grannys to march to where they intended.The side that you are probably refering to that "need to be exiled" are the blac bloc people who go on the offensive and smash things up. Most people see them as young no nothings who just ant to provoke police and break things, but really its an existential crisis.you have all this shit thats been build on lies and slavery and fear mongering. you have all this theft of resources, violence and the world doesnt even notice...some people feel they need to direct that energy in a way that doesnt involve them serving life sentences.its either that or they could join occupy....lolregardless, this 3d printing stuff is fucking greatness
>>4545288I would love to grow weed. I am definitely botanist material.>spend all day outside with your hands
>>4545357I dont see why notwe all have the same goal.Right now sovereignty is mimicked by corporations and groups of people by taking form others. but even at the top of the heap you are vulnerable.So I'll get a group that dosent want to be at the top of the traditional heap but instead transition to self sufficiency using modern tools.
>>4545359Weapons aren't pointless.I can agree that it can do a lot more useful things, but it's better to have it and not need it than to not have it and need it.
>>4545326Luckily for me, Texas doesn't really have any rainwater laws.
>>4545359design and print iron man suitalways out in public in my iron man suit.
>>4545409you have to have weapons and be well trained in their tactile usewe live in a physical world, if you cant physically defend yourself, you will be dominated. If you cant physically provide for yourself, you will be blackmailed into submission.
>>4545359Weapons are what keep your belongings safe. You print a car, I print a weapon.I use my weapon to take your car. That's what you need a weapon for.
>>4545444>be well trainedNot really, a gun is very simple to use. Just aim and pull the trigger and you'll hit your mark. Not much physical exertion required.
>>4545424>mfw my iron man suit has a built in mechanical fleshlight>mfw it provides intravenous injections of testosterone and Viagra to give me non-stop erections>mfw I've had to have my heart replaced with a machine that can withstand the pressure of maintaining a nonstop erection-pleasure machine>mfw I'm smiling 24/7
All people here go play Hostile Waters.Current Corporate Government=The CabalShining Future Ahead of Us=The Good Guys.
>>4545461then someone who has trained in stealth and free running as well as normal tactics gets the drop on you.you need the traingingas powerful as the weapon is, if they have the same weapon, it comes down to skill. everyone needs to have the skillgonna print out some graphene body armor myself.
>>4545486ultra light weightstronger then steelx200fuck yes
>>4545472lol wut
>>4545486Training goes to shit under stress, so you need to have a solid baseline of skill otherwise you won't be worthwhile. Other than that, controlling the terms of engagement then matter more than pure tactics.
>>4545486>trained in stealth and free runningUmm, you have been watching too many movies. When defending your own property, you won't need to be "trained in stealth" or any crazy nonsense. You just need to defend yourself and with a gun, that is easy.
>>4544714The downside to immortality is that no one will ever retire.I hope you seriously love your field of work.
What is the singularity? How close are we to it? How will it effect society?
>>4545359top of my list is actually a breeder reactor.next is a cache of weaponry.
>>4545518Will we work in the future?I would rather be a paid explorer, exploring out into space. >never age>3d printer makes whatever I want>vertical farming on ship>space internet
