s'ok i put it all into bitcoin

Your mom will come into your room and kiss you goodnight in T minus 20 minutes.

USA - Mexico of the developed world. or make that, Iceland times 1000. Enjoy our holiday shopping season. USA= Use Salvation Army.

>>441485
HIIIIIII MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTTTTT

>>441485
Good move, it's just as safe as gold and other investments!

www.wired.com/magazine/2011/11/mf_bitcoin/all/1

>>441485

MOOT YOU CUNT UNBLOCK CHINESE ISPS SO I CAN POST

FUCKING HELL I HAVE TO POST FROM A VPN IT'S GAY AS FUCK

I EMAILED YOU

YOU IGNORED ME

>in4 shitstorm

sage for mootfaggotry. Attention whoring newfag.

Don't worry everyone. You'll all have a place at camp FEMA.

To be fair, it could be worse. At least this way we get one step closer to glorious anarchism! XD

What is this thread about again?

>>441485
Thanks for the ssl support, need moar.

>>441502
try changing your browser User-Agent.

>>441485
By the way, Moot, doing anything about making another /v/idya board, one about esports?

I get my money the old fashion way, I pan for it.

>>441514
It's just the same old Paultard conspiracy nutjobbery. These freaks have been prophesying the end of the economy for years.

>>441514

It was something 4chan changed. I could post before a few weeks ago. If I really want to post I have to load the VPN, and then shut it after posting.

My chinese software on my pc scans my PC for a VPN every 30 minutes and shuts off the internet if it finds anything....

wuts a user agent

>>441508
anarchism is never stable, it just represents a transitive period which typically ends up as an oligarchical state.

>>441523
I'm no pauldrone.

It's just easy to see that the economy is NOT going to survive this crisis.

>>441485
Moot?
A Libertarian?

>>441533
Wait, the people who invest are bitcoin are Libertarians?

I guess that proves that Libertarians really are retards.

>In a display of the US economy's underlying strength, retail sales on Black Friday hit a new record for the start of the holiday shopping season that follows Thanksgiving, according to early estimates.

>The increase in sales appeared to be far higher than the inflation rate, which eased to 3.5 percent in October as compared with a year ago, according to US Labor Department data.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5i7Es7lLOZn9AasYbuV70icoE-eOg?docId=CNG.926ff288bc
eb884eff14d5529b05bd9b.1f1

What crisis?

>>441523
you seem to be the only one referencing Ron Paul in this thread.

Are the two of us looking for someone to hold our hand and tell us that we are right, and reaaly smart? Sorry, no one to share your latent buttfrustration and ideological crisis with here. Go read the editorials in the NYTimes, you will have better luck.

>>441544
High black friday sales don't get away from how badly retail is doing elsewhere.

Also, Moot, can we make this (or another Economy thread) a sticky? It'd be nice to have more proper discussion on the economy, instead of the usual "BLACKS ARE DUMB LOOK AT THIS UNSOURCED JPG".

>>441485
Its good to see /pol/iticians unaffected by your presence.

Will property be useless too? Can I borrow California for a bit?

>>441563
>unsourced
Look who's talking. I provided a source that shows the fundamentals of the economy are strong. All you have are your unsourced ideological diatribes against the free market American system.

>>441574
Why would you want to borrow california?

>>441524
user agent is just something in the browser, says like whether you are using firefox or IE. What kinds of languages, alphabets and fonts are supported. And sometimes information like what country you are from.

Some websites use header files like this (often the User-Agent header) to direct and sometimes neglect to serve traffic. As long as its 4chan.org that is neglecting to serve you and not the firewall, something like changing the User-Agent might be able to get you in.

>>441579
>All you have are your unsourced ideological diatribes against the free market American system.

What?

All I said was that the US is suffering elsewhere, and that high black Friday sales don't make everything OK.

Ultimately, Black Friday means NOTHING when your banks have huge assets in european countries which are soon to collapse.

If the Euro collapses, what actually happens?

Will the dollar lose all its value?

>end of the world
>every day on /new/ and now /pol/

>>441600
Over 2/3 of the US economy is consumer spending. It's fundamental to the American economy. A little bank crisis means nothing compared to the massive power of consumer spending.

>>441485

>>441610
well, the currency ($USD) would probably again deflating very quickly, much like it did in 2008 (maybe worse). There would be problems with the US economy if that happened, but the US is actually probably one of the best insulated countries against a euro collapse. The country could likely sustain itself just by selling treasuries

>>441625
This is different. This is real, and it's not just us saying it.

The UK government just came out and said "when the Euro collapses, we need to be able to get our citizens back so they can avoid the riots".

ALL newspapers are saying it will happen.

All leading economists (who want to tell the truth) are saying it.

It's fucked.

>>441641
>this is different. this is real

>>441638
>the US is actually probably one of the best insulated countries against a euro collapse.

That'll be why in EVERY situation, European and US markets have mirrored each other, right?

>>441648
Are you saying there isn't a financial crisis happening right in front of our very eyes?

>>441582

12th largest economy in the world by production. Even if money is worthless, products and production are not.

Soon, everyone will be trillionaires!

>>441610
In the short term there would be a flight to the dollar as a safety.

But the dollar is doomed too in the long run

Right now silver is going back on my menu, due to the low price.

The euro is going to collapse. That is a given. As new national currencies are introduced anyone holding euros is going to get stung. The end of the euro means the end of US EU swap lines, which is one way central banks are manipulating exchange rates now.

The pound looks like a bag of turd too. It is being printed at a phenomenal rate. Bubbles in UK, like housing and the bond bubble, are being propped up by money printing. When the euro falls I expect the pound to go soon after.

The dollar is in really bad shape too. When sound money is introduced anywhere else in the world expect a capital flight. The dollar will then tumble.

>>441481
She looks like a post sex-change Max Keiser. xD

>>441656
I'm saying if you're not prepared by now, don't bother trying. Enjoy I hope you like FEMA camp food, bro. Is shit going to get worse before it gets better? Yeah.

Is is going to be mad max gun-huns on the highway, robbery, raping and looting? In some areas. Will other areas weather the storm just fine? Yeah. What you are afraid of is the unknown, because you are not prepared.

Neat.

We witnessed the rise and fall of United Eurotrash within a decade. I remember how proud they were, not seven years ago.

>>441653
There is one factor that can change the whole game. Which is on that chart there is always a european currency that competes directly with the dollar and is accepted in international trade.
So far as I understand it, this hypothetical impending situation implies that there may not be a competitive European currency moving forward. A massive worldwide devestiture like that would leave people fleeing to assets like Gold, Oil and the $USD

>>441680

The dollar used to buy 1.5 euros. Now it buys 0.75. Enjoy your worthless paper.

>>441671
Britfag here, the pound IS fucked, but we probably won't feel the crisis quite as badly here as in other places. Especially those people who aren't in London.

When the pound goes, we'll likely see a return (in smaller cities, towns and villages) to the WW2 spirit. Keep calm and carry on, and all that. We'll not have any wars or revolutions.

>>441680
The EU is so...1990's. Multiculti corporate think tanks wanted Europe to be whole since 1955. Only the fall of communism made them push for it harder and look where it has taken Europe.

>>441688
>We'll not have any wars or revolutions.
Now that is whistling past the graveyard....

>>441671
>implying that there's anything that rivals the dollar on the horizon

Welcome to the pacific century. North West Asia and Africa will be left behind.

>>441524
>My chinese software on my pc scans my PC for a VPN every 30 minutes and shuts off the internet if it finds anything....

Ffs China get your shit together. Can you not delete it or reformat or something?

>>441671
do you think euro as a currency will disappear completely or just some countries will introduce their new currencies while euro will still exist in germany/france?

also, what do you think about switching to swiss franc, i think it''s the most stable of them alll

>>441688

The pound will die on the forex. It will be pretty quick. Right now the weakness of the euro and dollar, combined with swap lines and hot air are keeping the pound stable. But it will go, sure as eggs is eggs.

When it does things will be really shitty in UK for a while. Really shitty. But that's the way the cookie crumbles.

>>441692
Multi-cult is a fallacy and thankfully we have pretty much proven it as such by now. How anyone can look at a successful mono-culture and actually beleive that the problem is lack of diversity is beyond me.

Interesting times as Europe fragments and everyone scrambles to get as much as possible in the greatest feeding frenzy of our lives.

>>441696
We won't though, for a few reasons.

1. We have WAY too much tradition.
2. Most people would be opposed to one.
3. We have no proper weaponry.
4. We're pretty laid back as a whole.

>>441641
>The UK government just came out and said "when the Euro collapses, we need to be able to get our citizens back so they can avoid the riots".

Sauce.

>>441707
Likely we will witness Greek levels of civil unrest. Hell, we had that earlier this year during the 'youth' riots.

Im not really a big fan of Faux News, but one of the pundits on Fox Business said it very succinctly.

"Right now, the US Dollar looks like the best horse in the glue factory"

>>441714
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/8917077/Prepare-for-riots-in-euro-collapse-Foreign-Office-w
arns.html

>As the Italian government struggled to borrow and Spain considered seeking an international bail-out, British ministers privately warned that the break-up of the euro, once almost unthinkable, is now increasingly plausible.

>Diplomats are preparing to help Britons abroad through a banking collapse and even riots arising from the debt crisis.

>A senior minister has now revealed the extent of the Government’s concern, saying that Britain is now planning on the basis that a euro collapse is now just a matter of time.

>>441704

When one country pull out it is over.There is no practical way to seperate one countries currency form another eurozone currency. Attemts will be made, of course. Capital controls, bank holidays, that kind of thing. But that will just hasten a capital flight and cause bank runs. Basically the euro is kaput.

>>441713
What industry other than war do you suppose will occupy all of jobless, destitute and poor Europe? When you cannot literally feed yourself all bets are off.

>>441704
its the PIIGSS that get the most out of the Euro. If anything, France and Germany ( and maybe england this time, who knows) Jointly print another currency, without all the leaches.

>>441717
Hah, that's really good.

>>441725

Things pick up pretty quick with a sound currency and free markets. Look at germany after the war. But the collapse is going to hurt.

>>441723
OH YEA IT'S ON NOW

does anyone think this will cause the EU to break up?

because if that happens, than that sucks because all the free travel agreements between EU members would be thrown out.

im just an american with citizenship in the UK, and I want to travel freely in europe some day

>>441741
Not really that sure if it'll lead to an EU breakup.

It all depends on how major the crisis is.

>>441735
Yes, the collapse is going to hurt and hurt. As far as I can tell, Europe has NOT been civil or lackadaisical in their unrest of late.

>>441741
>I hope economic collapse does not happen
>it will really ruin my travel plans
>All Americans

>>441741
i think traveling freely will be the least on your list of problems

I guess it's older people with pensions and savings who are going to really take a hit. The young will be able to pick themselves up after a year or two. The old are going to be screwed.

>>441758
>>441759
its not just travelling, those agreements allow living and working in various EU member countries without the requirement of a visa

because if those agreements are thrown out, then EU citizens have less options and have to jump through alot more hoops to go to different places

>>441713
We've been killing each other for centuries and we'll do it again.
We need a good excuse to change the political system.

>>441766
Everyone is going to get screwed. Does it not piss you off that this is happening at the supposed prime of your life?

>>441771

The depression has already fucked my life up. Sure, it could get worse. But what do I give a crap?

>>441771
Think of the adventure!

>>441779
>The depression has already fucked my life up.
>But what do I give a crap?

Indeed.

>>441780
This is the hope! Wow, you really are a silver lining, that awesome glass is half full kind of guy. Hope will save us. Never change, anonymous.

>>441789

Unless you work for a bank you are being screwed too. Your salary is being easten by inflation. Your job prospects are reduced by unemployment.

>>441789
>This is the hope! Wow, you really are a silver lining, that awesome glass is half full kind of guy. Hope will save us. Never change, anonymous.

Strife is character building. Deal with it.
I mean all most of us ever do is work, sit here on 4chan or play vidya, hardly the hight of living is it.

Small part of me wants this country to burn.

Oh well, time to go inna woods.

>>441766
The governments they voted for spent all the taxes THEY paid into the system, then promised them that YOU would pay for their retirement. It IS going to suck for them, but there seriously should have been laws against that kind of bullshit to start with. I think my parent's and grandparent's generations were promised a bunch of things that could never be delivered on. It sucks but in a way it is fair that they pay for the mistakes they made, What isnt fair is that generations after them will also have to pay for it.

I have no money ;___;

>>441805
My life has been screwed as well. They cut my GI Bill benefits, forcing me to attempt to get a job every three months for a month and a half.

Which has proven impossible, forcing me to stop school to find steady employment, in the worst economic conditions of our lives, competing against half of mexico. I can't even get supposed 'safety net' employment like waiting or busing tables. Because I would need to speak spanish in the town I was born in.

>>441813
I really was being sincere. Real talk, hope will save us.

ITT: People fretting when they're living in unprecedented prosperity and security.

>>441659
GDP is consumption not production.

>>441832
>were living

ftfy

Are you more concerned about your money being worthless, or not even being able to draw any out?

>>441831
Well in that case good luck in the collapse!

I'm about to graduate as a double major in asian studies and IPE.

>me when I will benefit greatly from the euro collapse

>>441832
That is a good point and I think you are channeling Penn Jillette. Who said, "Two things are always true. The world is always getting better, and people always think its getting worse".

This will likely get sorted out eventually and after a few years we will be better off. On the other hand, its not going to get sorted out unless people "frett" and discuss the issues.

>>441854
Too bad you're making it up...

But don't let me stop the incoming roleplay.

I live in Serbia, we are in crises for 20 years, whatever happens in the world things couldnt get much worse than what it was in the 90s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3R6ShOFj1M&feature=related

Ausbro here, should I invest in Yuan or stick to our own dollar?

>>441832
>prosperity and security.

I can just about afford alcohol and cigarettes. I haven't bought a luxury anything in years. No vidya, new tv, new computer nothing.

>>441853
I've got my gear ready, have had for the last five years. I only plan to evac if martial law is declared or some such. I'm NOT living in a police state fuck this gay earth.

But my stock of rice, beans, other edibles, as well as my ability to forage off the land does place me more comfortably than others. I will NEVER stand in a bread line or enjoy the wonders of a FEMA camp.

>>441859
brb serbian lulz

>>441872
>>441872
THIS!

My grandmother just sold off a lot of Jewelry she has been collecting her entire life to help our family members who are literally not eating.

>>441859
You have the least to lose so will feel it less. Richer European countries and America will be hardest hit because their people are so used to a very high standard of living.

>>441859
ffffffffuck.

>>441872
POOR WHITE TRAILER TRASH/ INNER CITY GHETTO NIGGER/ BARRIO LATINO CHICANO/ ON-REZ INJUN/ URBAN ETHNIC DETECTED.

"I'm _____ and I got arrested". - their motto.

>>441837

>Implying the government doesn't guarantee a certain amount of the money you have in banks

>Implying most people don't have a substantial amount of money stored as cash

>Implying you're not a paranoid schizophrenic

>>441859
god look at them! people get a loaf of bread and STILL beg for more...

i mean, i know they need it but jesus.

>>441892
I'm sure in Joisey Shore and Noos Yawks, the Italian community has a shitload of money, and how the fuck they made it cuz they're European.

ITALIANS. WOP DAGO GUINEE. LULZ.

>>441859

0:40

THE WALKING DEAD

>>441892
>implying i'm not white lower middle class who lives out in the sticks on a small holding

The US is no longer the land of opportunity (and anyone in Cal., NY state and Chicago definitely agrees).

>>441894
Yeah, you're right. most people have ample food stores and cash on hand in 2011. Also, banks will NEVER close withdrawal capability.

The future is so bright what was I thinking? Actually, we will live BETTER than our parents generation, and NOT be the first to live worse at all. Because of ________.

>>441859
>>441859
>>441859

is this real life?

>>441914
This. Until I get my degree, I could find work easier if I went to Mexico, became a citizen and then jumped the border back here. In my area, if an illegal with no license, no registration, no insurance is stopped by police he is let go.

Because for US, it's a simple ticket for $300 or whatever. But an illegal they have to tow the car, do loads of paperwork, etc.

So it is literally better to be an illegal mexican right now, in my area, than a native son. All of my hate.

>>441929
Coming to a town near you!

>>441929
The inland valleys of southern Cal. are much like this, so are the rust belt former factory towns in the Ohio valley and post-war inner suburbs of New Jersey/ northeast corridor.

Yeah, its possible, a whole generation born and raised less better off than their parents (or grand parents), and whole communities are warped by it by more crime, drugs, gangs, racial tension, class warfare, unemployment and welfare rolls.

>>441936
Native American...tribal members can get 150k a year in some cases, only if they are on the res and/or their names in the federal tribal rolls.

To mark "Indian" in the US census race box, makes you a black/colored/negro in a way, and looking white, you can't get affirmative action (or can you? Try applying at Mcd's or Wal-mart as a night shift janitor or most lowest paying job).

>>441859

lulz, wassup serbbro!

i remember 90s also, in my town people had to take wood parquet from floors in their house and set it on fire in order to get warm because heating wasnt working, no money for that. Also, it was very common everyday to see few kilometers of lines for sugar, flour, bread. during that time hyperinflation was in full power, my grandparents used their savings (12 pensions, 6 grandma and 6 grandpa) to but only 1 kg of apples and 1 kg of oranges. that was the only time i saw my granpa crying

fucked up times bros, i wish no one sees what we've seen here

>>441952
>Try applying at Mcd's or Wal-mart as a night shift janitor or most lowest paying job

Yeah...

>>441964
God damn...

>>441964
Communism works wonders, komrad?
Yugoslavia/Serbia is an example of a total collapse or fall of a white European nation.
The Soviets/USSR was a much larger one.

>>441965
Hispanic...brown skin...green card/no proof of citizenship...no English skills, broken Indian dialect of Mexican Spanish...dress in a rancher outfit...double for women, yet entirely male...you get the job.

>>441981
So you're telling me to pose as an illegal immigrant to get a job in my own home town?

FFS I must have lost my mind. Time to go and murder mexicans until they leave my land.

WHAT EXACTLY IS HAPPENING IN FOUR DAYS

>>441991
All. Fall. Down.

>>441989
Kill mexicans, take their cash. Repeat until I can get a job.

>>441991
Some anon said he was a stockbroker and that everything would implode on wednesday.

>>441999
itt or when?

Ok guise, I'm serious.

What's going to happen to United States in the next 4 days?

>>442003
Nothing. On day five though...

>>442001
Couple of days ago.

>>442009
...................................................................

what?

>>441713
He's right, but the cities will collapse big time.
Expect mass riots in Manchester, Birmingham and London, and places like Liverpool to a lesser extent.

If you live in Britian I'd get out of the cities as soon as you can move to a small town or village.

this may be your last chance.

>>442003
I'd keep your ignorance if I were you. At least you'll still be happy for a while.

>>442023
Pretty much complete financial breakdown. Your money will be worth 1/100 of it's value right now. If your bank even lets you withdraw it. Imagine the moment your ATM card stops working. Now add that to all of America.

Remember what they tried to prevent when they bailed out the banks? The other shoe is now dropping. My advice? Buy rice and beans by the sack full and have a minimum of 15 gallons of potable water on hand.

>>442033
North of England/Scotland is the safest place to be.

Remember how all the southern cities rioted?

Guess how many there were in the north.

>>442012
>>442012
>>442012
>>442012

more info, how was that anon, and how do you know he wasnt trolling?

>>442003
WE DONT CARE.
Focus on our Christmas, holiday shopping and multiculti obeservance of the winter solstice.
Americans...don't care, other than having money and the right to worship (their) GAWD.

>>442059
Anonymous listen to what we are telling you.

>Credit Suisse’s Fixed Income Research unit: “We seem to have entered the last days of the euro as we currently know it. That doesn’t make a break-up very likely, but it does mean some extraordinary things will almost certainly need to happen – probably by mid-January – to prevent the progressive closure of all the euro zone sovereign bond markets, potentially accompanied by escalating runs on even the strongest banks.”

Willem Buiter, chief economist at Citigroup: “Time is running out fast. I think we have maybe a few months — it could be weeks, it could be days — before there is a material risk of a fundamentally unnecessary default by a country like Spain or Italy which would be a financial catastrophe dragging the European banking system and North America with it.”

[CITATION NEEDED]

>>442046
There were none in Wales and Scotland. Safest place to be is out side of England.

When I was young, I dreamed of having a family, buying a house and getting a car when I was older.

The first thing I dropped was buying a house, it looks like in my lifetime this'll never happen, the best I'll get will be to inherit my mothers.
The next thing I dropped was getting a car, with the taxes, insurance and petrol prices I'll never be able to afford one and pay my rent at the same time.
Now I'm thinking about never having kids, I mean not because of typical 4chan reasons, I have a fiancee and all that, but I'd never be able to afford to give them a life they deserve, I'm going to wait and see on that one, maybe things'll get better but I'm severly doubting that...

>>442082
>2011
;_;

>My father died a month ago
>My best friend just found out he's suffering from an incurable disease
>United States is going down

I'm surprised I haven't given up hope...

>>442076
Yeah I remember travelling from London to Cardiff the night of the riots.

In London a hoard of the were decending on the bus as it left the station
Cardiff was a ghost town when I arrived, the population there were too proud to wreck their own city. There wasn't even extra police patrolling the city centre.

>>442065
I hope it doesn't happen on Wednesday.
That's my day off.

>>442103
ofc nothing will happen on wednesday

>>442082
When i was young, I always dream of moving to the states and work for NASA.

Now I don't think I can do that.

Fuck you reality for trolling me,.

>>442103
yeah...

Hope in one hand and shit in the other. See which one fills up first :)

No one knows for sure, but when the CHIEF economist at Citibank is saying it, and

>>442122
My goals were at least realistic.
Every adult I knew had done that.

I think being able to own your own place to live, own transport and raise a family should be a basic right in civilised countries.
I have a feeling that mostly everybody in the west is unwanted and that the previous generation though nothing of what would happen to us and still don't think anything of what will happen to us.

>>442141
>>442141
everybody in the west 25 years old or younger I meant.

>>442141
it's going to suck

>>442099
>the population there were too proud to wreck their own city

That and we're always friendly drunk.

WHAT DO I DO?
WHAT DO I DO WITH MY MONEY NOW?

DO I ONLY HAVE UNTIL WEDNESDAY

SHOULD I DRAW IT ALL OUT OF MY SAVINGS AND KEEP IT IN A SHOE BOX?
SHOULD I JUST BUY EVERYTHING I EVER WANTED RIGHT NOW AND HOARD IT FOR ALL TIME?
SHOULD I JUST BY TINS OF TUNA?

WHAT SHOULD I DO!?
PLEASE HELP ME!!!

>>442181
Serious or no?

>>442181
Yes.

When I was young I dreamt of fighting running battles against an oppressive government force amidst a dystopian world.

>mfw it's going to happen

>>442181
1. guns
2. bullets
3. food
4. gold/silver to barter with

>>442181

buy a ticket to balkans, i heard it's safe haven for all worried people

>>442186
YES I AM SERIOUS
THIS IS A SERIOUS SITUATION!
>>442189
YES WHAT?

>>442192
EUROPE
NO GUNS
>>442193
BALKANS
YOU'RE JOKING RIGHT. HAHA
NO.

>>442194
Just yes. To everything.

>>442200
>EUROPE
>NO GUNS

Make your own or learn to use a bow.

>>442200

no, i am not joking, that place is so unimportant, no one will try to do shit with it

>>442193
Balkanite here. If the dollar falls, so will the Euro and thus the Balkans would also be severely fucked. Do not move to Balkans.

>>442200
Shotguns are common in the UK.

>>442206
The balkans are worse when healthy than Europe when unhealthy.

>>442203
So i should draw all my money out, buy all the video games and sofas I can afford and buy tuna with the change?
>>442204
I think you're over exaggerating the situation. I'm not going to murder people.
>>442206
20 years ago it went to shit and the kosovo situation is still volitile, I'm staying out.
>>442217
I don't want to riot or shoot people.

>>442222
>I don't want to riot or shoot people.

You may be forced to shoot people. Anyway that kind of attitude in Europe is good, it means those of us with guns instantly have more control.

>implying this isn't the usual bullshit not backed up by anything

>>442242
Whistling past the graveyard...

http://wallstcheatsheet.com/stocks/citigroups-chief-economist-time-is-running-out-for-eurozone.html/

German here, don't give a fuck. Money is invested in bioscience stocks (oil algae development) and in 47 hectars of old farmland that will be rezoned to "building land" and at least triple in value when we get our mayor elected next year. Only 2000€ in currencies, for short term liquidity. Money is too expensive for just having it lie around.

The government will take care of the rest. There won't be such a thing as a state bankruptcy. If Greece need's economic care, they will take it. And they will pay the debts they made. If their neocommunists try to interfere, the german riot police knows how to handle troublemakers. And the greek puppet government will be happy to send an invitation.

>>442242
see
>>441723

everything is fine

>>442245

Wow more speculation. I remember when portugal and ireland and italy were going to default.

>>442246
That post is insane and incoherent.

>>442267
The british foreign office doesn't dabble much in 'speculation'

>>442276
This.

>>442295
I have that hung up on me wall.
God bless the Queen I say!

>>442276

>telegraph
>Murdoch paper

Only source is -

One senior minister says

Yeah I don't see this story anywhere else, correct me if i'm wrong

>>442310
Well you keep thinking everything is fine
When your savings are worth nothing don't come crying to us.

>>442310
The Telegraph isn't a Murdoch paper.

Also, the Telegraph and the Guardian are the two most trustworthy newspapers in the UK.

>>442317

My mistake.

The guardian is fucking leftist tripe, all the newspapers are shit

>>442313

I have fuckall savings, so I couldn't give less of a shit, I have a mace though

>>442329
>The guardian is fucking leftist tripe

Nice opinions, doesn't make the stories false.

I could say the same about the Telegraph, that it's conservative bullshit, but I'm at least willing to accept that it's a reputable sight with reliable news stories.

>>442329
>I have fuckall savings

See it's already happening!

You assholes cried wolf too much. This exact same shit has happened dozens of time on this board and elsewhere, with just as many sources.

I have no idea what to believe with so much bullshit flying everywhere.

At least I live in a very insular rural community that is the most self-sustainable place in the state, so I don't really give all that much of a fuck. I'll have time to react before any shit reaches here.

Britfag student here.

Live in a medium size city in the midlands. No guns, but have a baseball bat.

How fucked am I?

>>442346
Very.
If the population of your city exceeds 50,000 then you'll most likely be eaten.

Run to the hills.

>>442344
Believe the fact that EVERYONE is talking about it now, not just the weird fucks on here.

>>442346
You are gonna get fucked with your own bat, mate.

>>442346
Is there space to grow food and create a makeshift shelter in your city?

If not I suggest you squat on some farmers land get learn some joinery.

>>442356
That's what the weird fucks on here claim ALL THE TIME.

>>442346
Very.

>>442359
Yeah but other people are.
Watch the fucking news for once in your life.
Check the british consul status updates.

>>442358
>If not I suggest you squat on some farmers land get learn some joinery.

You'll be shot.

>>442346
Which city?

>>442356

Everyone being the telegraph, market minipulators and /pol/

If this was real it would get onto tv news

>>442368
THE JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS
... or something. Hey, build a bunker.

>>442366
>>442366

Derby.

Sounds like I'm fucked then, lads.

>>442356
Yeah no. This happens with every fear surge. It's still just the nutjobs. Some are you are just part-time headcases that get infected by other people freaking out. It's no different than the "normal people" who hear the 2012 bullshit so much that they start thinking it might be real.

Nothing happening in this thread is any different from the others. But hearing different doomsday theories from assholes in a constant fucking barrage is getting taxing.

>>442377
We trained this goy well.

>>442365
Out of the way.
He probably won't be able to afford to work all his land so he might not notice you for a long time.

All land in britian is owned unfortunately so if you want to grow shit it has to be in your own back yard or you steal land from somebody else.

>>442377
>But hearing different doomsday theories from assholes in a constant fucking barrage is getting taxing.
But what other use does /pol/ have?

>>442381
Piss off already.

>>442382
Or you know, you could offer to help the farmer and the local rural community in return for food, shelter and protection.
You can't just come out here and steal our shit but extra willing hands are always welcome especially if there is no more fuel.

I think it was on youtube, but there was some religious guy saying that December 1st was going to be the start of some bad times. Then on the 24th of december...well.. that was supposed to be the original end of the mayan calender until the media got a hold of it and made it a year later.

Also, Hi moot. Y us so cool?!!? ^_^

>>442381
Yes.
But we must not relax yet.

>>442416
Shalom, Jewish Pride World Wide. God be with you by fellow JIDF.

>>442413
Guys, guys. A crazy ranting homeless person on the metro told me, that on December 23rd the frogs are gonna return to reclaim the Kingdom of Fwaghrd. The rivers are gonna run thick with their young, the sky will turn black and the stores are all gonna run out of yoghurt. It will be the end of human civilisation as we know it. Save yourselves, take your gold a make a bunker of it so you can hide from the inevitable looting jew-frog hybrids!

Could the world financial collapse wait a few more weeks? I want to buy some spam cans of 7.62x54r so I'm not stuck using .30-30 for longer range work.

>>442435
Dunno, ask Israel.

Like I know myself, I wouldn't even notice the crash until a day or two into it. Probably when I try to order groceries or a pizza and they suddenly don't take € anymore and want exotic currencies like Dollar or Zloty instead. Quite inconvenient, but I don't understand why you retards want to eat each other so badly. That's kinda gross, don't you think?

>>442439
Ok


JIDF, COULD YOU PLEASE USE YOUR JEW-HIVEMIND TO TELL THE FINANCIAL RULERS OF THE WORLD TO HOLD OFF THIS COLLAPSE FOR A FEW MORE WEEKS? I WANT TO GET SOME SHIT DONE. FEEL FREE TO MAKE THE PLUNGE MUCH WORSE IF IT MEANS I CAN GET SOME MORE CHEAP AMMO.

Love, your favorite Goy.

>>442440
>Zloty
>A new global currency
Oh yes, muhaha

>>442458
>implying it won't be the shekel

>>442464
I sure love spending my ₪s!

>>442435
Hay there, goyim.

To be honest, we're not really sure because we need more data on our current situation.
Hey, we still subject to Chaos Theory.

Also, Obama will be your next president and you will enjoy it.

>>442458

Which part of "exotic currency" do you need explained?

>>442478
If they take Zloty outside of Poland it will become global, fuckhead.

>>442473
we're going to have a government post-economic shitstorm?

I was kinda hoping it was going to devolve into small factions and loners and basically become STALKER minus the artifacts, vodka, and food.

>>442485

In this case I have bad news for you. I take every currency that is freely convertible and halfway trustable. So all currencies are global now?

>>442413
>>442413
>>442413
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKlcheOXx00

FROM THE FUCKINGT 70's!!!

>>442489

Where's the fun in such a lifestyle? You wouldn't live better than a street bum. Can't understand why people dream of this.

>>441641

>ALL newspapers are saying it will happen.

Ah, newspapers tell it, it probably be true.

>>442542
realistically, there is no way that the eurozone exists as it does today in a decade.

>>442542

The news agencies never lie.

>>442531

Exactly.

Those people are the real example of today's non real thinking society.

They wan't what they don't have.
>EXTRAAAEEEM FRRREEEDUM
But when they get what they think they want.
Then they will see how good some things are, they now think are shit!

>>442531
All the stupid unprepared people are dead. No more hipsters, no more yuppies, no more niggers, no more white trash, no police, no federal government, any government that arises is local and subject to their own laws, in which the people who live in that area have a say.

Basically, it will kill off all the unwanted trash, and when they're gone and the people with the foresight to prepare and understand what is happening in the world, will be the ones to rebuild society.

>>442549

;)

Hey moot, if you're still here, can you make a sticky on every board about the usage of emo-cons? such as ^_^ =P ;_; >_> >_< =D etc etc and how its Perfectly fine to use them, due to the nature of this image board we call 4chan and internet. People bitch at me Constantly about it, why? I got no clue. "go back to gaia faggot" Lame!!

>>442501
If most people acted like you, then yes. Since you are in a very small minority then no, Twilight Sparkle.

>>442563
I'm used to living in the mountains far from retardation that is modern society.

I'll sit in my cabin by the warm fire I started myself with the wood I sawed and chopped myself, drinking my home-grown mint tea, snacking on walnuts and chestnuts I gathered myself, reading Dickens and Dostoevsky. Honestly I could care less about what happens outside of that idyllic world which I retreat to every few months. When I come back, I'm bombarded with BLACK FRIDAY, JERSEY SHORE, FAUX NEWZ, and all the other broken byproducts of a long dead world.

Western society died years ago, they just haven't gotten around to burying the corpse.

so i'm from EU. i have some small savings, should i buy things i want now?

I'vew been saving for shit to get cheaper...

>>442574

Oh, you believe in this "judgement day purge" trope the christians and communists propagate. Think it over again. Seriously. It's a really stupid con and you should feel stupid for falling for it.

why 4 days?

>>442579
Go back to Gaia, faggot

>>442616
Not so much a "purge" but its more of a situation that will force people to realize how lucky they WERE. When you're struggling to find food and fresh water, suddenly not having that iPhone 4s doesn't seem all that bad. A real event like this would purge only the worst of society, but more than likely bring people together in the long run. Imagine a world where neighbors who never so much as speak to one another are suddenly united with a common goal. There would be less political apathy, and less whining over the unimportant stuff.

>>442622
I would have lold if moot told me that, but ultimately, No, you're not cool yet.

>>442636
And if that's not your thing, just imagine a world where you can kill niggers without repercussions. I know more than half of /pol/ would jizz at the thought of that.

>>442654
Don't care, we don't have any around here.

>>442659
And I would much rather have three square meals a day without having to fight squirrels with rabbies for their nuts.

>>442670
Who wouldn't? I'm not saying I hope an economic collapse happens, I'm just saying that if/when it does, this would be the preferred version. I hope to fuck it doesn't happen, I don't want to lose everything and have to start over. I stockpile food and ammo because I'm AFRAID of it happening.

>>442636

And guess what happens with the dangerous lunatics who want to kill off all their "unwanted" in such an environment. The warning shot can also be the second or third one. No one will ask further questions about them, because there are already enough problems to solve without a violent sociopath running free and making extra trouble.

If you have such problems communicating with your neighbours, maybe a conversational therapy might be more useful to you than a complete breakdown of society.

>>442217

Fool. You don't want a gun because you don't plan on shooting someone? Is that what a gun is for?

MFW, liberals won't survive! Yes!

A gun gets you food. Its called hunting.
A gun saves your life. Its called defense.
A gun helps you barter. Its called a silent partner.

In a survival situation a gun is the most important tool outside of cord, combustion and cover.

>>442222

Oops, meant to reply to this.

>>442849
You are now aware that the real "far left," along with anti-authoritarian leftists, tend to own firearms.

>>442872

Need some proof bro.

>>442877
dude, hitler. He was a socialist.

>>442872

'anti-authoritarian leftist'

Contradiction. To be 'left' you rely more on a centralized government whether 'social' or bureaucratic.

>>442887

You fucking twit. Hitler was certainly NOT anti authoritarian.

>>441533
Moot was always a libertarian you fucking dumbass.

>>442872
>You are now aware that the real "far left," along with anti-authoritarian leftists, tend to own firearms.
Is this a joke?

>>441485

I have always appreciated your humour.

Plus nobody can derail a thread as exceptionally as yourself.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/27/us-eurozone-integration-ecb-idUSTRE7AQ00F20111127

EU countries will draw closer together, and weather the problem until markets stabilize. Crisis over. /thread. Go about your day.

>>442903
I am a "far left," and I own 2 rifles, 1 shotgun, two .38s and a .45 Colt 1911, with all of which I am how you say, qualified

there are something like 223 million firearms in the USA. You didn't honestly think that they all belong to rightwingers, did you?

Why do people think that everythimg will go fallout mode? Unless countries go to war nothimgs gonna burn. Jist a lot more unemployed.

>>443076
Wait and see.

>>442888
no, not really, "left" goes from "liberal" (who are actually centrists) federalized government to local workers co-ops decision making to libertarians to anarchists and finally mountain men

"There is a story, probably apocryphal, of a Native American scouting expedition that came across the starving members of the Donner Party in 1847, who were snowbound in the Sierra Nevadas and resorted to cannibalism in order to survive. The expedition, which had never seen white people before, observed the Donner Party from a distance, then returned to base camp to report what they had seen. The report consisted of four words: 'They eat each other.' Frankly, if I could summarize the argument of [my book] 'Why America Failed' in a single phrase, this would be it. Unless the Wall Street protests manage to turn things around in a fundamental way, 'They eat each other' is going to be our epitaph."
--Morris Berman.

>>442849
You do realize all living creatures on this planet will do anything to survive, politics is just a game.

Why are neo-cons always fags

"I'm sorry that I didn't build you a stronger ship, young Rose."