Okay this is what I don't get. "Official" story by the police is that Holmes purchased a ticket and walked in with a crowd. >Holmes hasn't/didn't speak a word to the police whilst in custody>Deathly silent and 'out of it' at his court appearance http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4MW_qhAPAUEye witness says he had an accomplice who let him in through an emergency exit and had a gas mask on, armor on up to his throat and a crotch plate.>Authorities have 'ruled out' the accomplice storySo how the fuck is a guy with a shotgun, two glocks and a AR-15, wearing extensive armor and a gas mask supposed to casually stroll in buy a ticket and walk in with other people?
I'm sick of repeating this.INSIDE JOB.MK ULTRA OR OTHER MIND CONTROL TECHNIQUES.That's why he looks zoned out in court. His brain is fried.
Go into theatre with everyone. Wait until movie starts. Go out back door. Keep it propped open with someshit. Gear up at your car. Go back through backdoor, into theatre. Do your thang.I don't understand what you don't understand.
>>4375454I'm no conspiracy theorist, but i'm starting to come around to your side. None of this adds the fuck up that's why
>>4375477watch the fucking youtube video. The eye witness was sitting behind the guy who got a phone call and got up to open the emergency exit and that's when the 'gun man' entered.
>>4375477>implying all those doors dont have cameras and sensors.>implying they're noobs, prop door so 100 people can come in for free movies!
>>4375486>>4375454I hope this is just some kind of meta-trolling.
>>4375477Walk back from the car through the car park, through the various lobbies, past the staff, past the crowds lining up for tickets and into the theater without being noticed in your full armored suit with guns.Yeah, sounds realistic.
>>4375505Of course they do. But he was only gone for a couple of minutes. I've been to movie theatres and have snuck out backdoors and let people in and shit. It's not a big deal. It's very easy to do.>>4375498How would the eye witness know what that person did once they left the theatre? For all he knows it's just one of those close call survivors that left the theatre right before Holmes came in to shoot up the place. Oh you saw someone leave the theatre right before some mass murderer walked in? Those two MUST be in cahoots! Retards.
>>4375535>gear up with all his shit, load guns BY HIMSELF>couple of minutes you know fuck all about guns and armor
>>4375512
There's a good chance mall security cameras will have caught some footage.Or maybe the "anti piracy cam", if it was there.
>>4375512Have you never been to a movie theatre? There are plenty of exits off to the side and the back of each building. Since there are so many theatre rooms, it would be wise to have many exits in case of fire and other emergencies.
>>4375560i don' know guys, looks like he lost alot of blood. maybr hes dead and this one in court is really a doppelganger
>>4375557Yeah. It's that easy. He had this attacked planned and trained for it. He was a man on a mission. That's all it takes. It's not like he had to assemble all of his guns and shit first. Not to mention he might've even had his holsters and armour already on him under his clothes when he initially entered.
>>4375560Wait, I thought the AR had a 100 round drum mag. That looks like a standard mag...
>>4375591> trained for itSorry who trains you to put full body armor, up to the throat, on? and how would one pay for this being unemployed grad student?
>>4375591>probably just wore it under his clothes>throat gaurd, ballistic gloves/ankle covers/tacticoool bootsyeah no
>>4375613he worked at McDonald's. I'm sure he saved up.I don't really know much about his life. All I know is that I'm a proponent of Occam's Razor. And grasping for straws, weaving complicated explanations for things which simpler explanations can be attributed to, is not my thing.
>>4375632>implying he would put all of them on and not just stuff that fit under his clothes and put that other stuff on later in the car to lower prep time.seriously, it's like you guys force yourselves to be stupid.Are you guys trolling right now? I want to know. Do you seriously believe this shit is some kind of conspiracy?
>dat feel when theres dozens of AR-15's reported missing in Canada>Canada>tight gun regulation >dozens of assault rifles going 'missing'seems legithttp://blogs.ottawacitizen.com/2012/07/23/dozens-of-ar-15s-reported-stolen-in-canada/
>>4375454<INSIDE JOBI'm gonna try to turn this into a meme at /hc/
>>4375454From what I have heard, he was a Neuroscientist (or studying to be anyway) was top of his class and his area of study before he dropped out was how the human brain told reality apart from fantasy.I dare say he started experimenting on himself and accidently brainwashed himself into thinking he was a supervillian, probably with the help of Psychoactive drugs like Scopolamine.
>>4375440>>4375454>Will Colorado Shooting be Blamed on Alex Jones?>MFW this is what Alex Jones titled his video on Colorado shooting massacrefucking paranoid conspiracy theorists
>>4375673Brain doesn't work like it does in the movies. Shit is not that simple (I don't mean doing it, I mean your understanding of the mind is not that simple).ITT: People who don't understand how the brain even works or what MKULTRA actually did/accomplished.
>>4375658Atleast we won't shoot each other with them like Americans or Mexicans, probably at some hillbilly grow op as we speak.>mfw i get shot tommorow
>>4375477Why no alarm on the emergency exit? Wouldn't this have prevented the occurrence better than gun control?
>>4375699I do understand that, but it is quite easy to brainwash people and there are many mental illnesses that can be brought out by drug use that make the brain lose the ability to tell fantasy from reality, Schizophrenia is the most common.If his area of study was to try figure out how the brain can tell reality apart from fantasy and he decided to experiment certain things on himself, It would explain his behavior.
>>4375713There's plenty of emergency exit doors that aren't actually connected to alarms. I agree that if it did it probably would have prevented the shooting (maybe). Also, movie theatres have exits off to the side of the buildings just so there is less congestion at the entrance. They want patrons to use those doors, so they tend not to rig them to alarms.
>>4375477This, it isn't hard to do.
>>4375673That sounds way more out there than "the FBI did it."
Holy shit you faggots are so retarded I can't even believe I am reading anything you guys are saying.
>>4375603he supposedly had a 100 round mag, yes
>>4375777a 100 round drum mag is something like a 2 liter bottle of coke sawed in half. Pic related. Look at the pic of the scene. That looks like a standard 20 or so round mag.
>>4375658>AR-15>assault rifleI'm tired of having my jimmies rustled by people who don't know what they are talking about when it comes to guns on this boardgo to >>>/k/ and call the AR-15 an assault rifle
>>4375805some reports are saying that he had a 100 round mag in a 'Smith and Wesson' automatic rifle do S&W even produce AR-15s?
Guys, he's on LSD. Seriously.>Dilated Pupils>Not talking>Looking around at things in a bewildered manner.Also,>People suggested that MKUltra was involved long before the courtroom video was released>courtroom video clearly shows him on LSD>MKUltra has a half-century long history with LSD.
>>4375892Yes they do. One thing I find funny is that on thing I've heard is that his gun jammed during the shooting. It was probably due to the 100 round magazine because they are known for jamming a lot.
>>4375926but the image clearly shows a standard mag in the AR-15
>>4375947Perhaps the media has been lying to everybody about the 100 round baby killing assault clipazine? Anyway, he probably reloaded with a regular mag after his gun jammed.
>>4376019But he didn't. Swapped to shotgun and pistols, it's why the death count was so low, but the injury rate so high.
>>4375924shut up
>>4375440easy. back entrance was left ajar so employees could take smoke breaks. or he was cosplaying.journalists get fuckign everything wrong; that's not a sign of conspiracy. if it WAS a conspiracy serious enough to include all major media outlets, the details would all add up perfectly.
>>4375735his mother wasn't in any way surprised when the cops contacted her, though, so either she's the most irresponsible parent in the world (seriously, who WOULDN"T do everything in your power to get your kid checked into a psych ward?) or he's been like this for awhile
>>4375805http://www.surefire.com/mag5-100.htmlThey do make 100 rounders that are not drums, however they are still fuckhuge compared to a standard mag.
>>4375924This! it's not that hard to fuck yourself up good with too much LSD, and all it takes is a little push, a little bug planted in his rotted out mind.
obviously this could be exactly what it appears to be, a lone killer who planned and carried out an attack himself. But it's also likely that this was an mk ultra type affair. There's no reason to assume that it was, but its plausible.
>>4376223Look at the pic. It doesn't look like that huge dragondildo of a mag.
>>4376255
>>4376226>>4375924I somehow can't picture dressing yourself up in full tacticool gear and shooting people on LSD. Those are a bit too complex actions for someone who's tripping. Too much planning. Besides, it's impossible for him to be fucked up on acid from friday until now - tolerance builds very fast to psychodelics and so you have to take weeklong breaks to produce fully trippy effects at least.
>>4376274i think anons are implying that MKUltra is feeding him the shit
>>4376274what about the manson murders? Experienced LSD users executed a plan, albeit not too elaborate, to surpass the security system of a mansion, and killed everyone in the house. A telephone pole was climbed, and the right wire for the gate or an alarm was cut.
>>4376274It doesn't really need to be LSD at all, the guy appears heavily drugged in all the post shooting pics I've seen though.
>>4375924LSD sucks at brainwashing, along with most psychedelics because they only give you "pseudo-hallucinations" meaning, you know the hallucinations are fake, unlike a Skitzo person who thinks their hallucinations are real, it's how you tell apart someone suffering from HPPD from someone who is Bipolar or Skitz as the HPPD person knows what is a hallucination and what is real.Also Psychedelic Tolerance can last upwards of a month and a Psychedelic trip on LSD lasts only around 12 hours. If he is tripping on a drug and if a drug was used to brainwash, either by himself or some organization, a deliriant like Scopolamine or Hyoscyamine would be much more effective.
>>4376339HPPD? that's not histrionic but i can't think what it'd be
>>4376339High doses of drugs like DPH though, can induce full hallucinations (full being defined as "it's unlikely that the user could differentiate it from reality without external help). Or scopalmine (not sure on spelling), which some other posters have suggested in other threads.
>>4376371hallucinogen persisting perception disorder
>>4376381wow I missed the last part of your post where you pretty much already suggested this, my bad
>>4376371It's basically your trip lasts longer than the drug.So long after the drug has left your system, you are still tripping, only like 0.5 percent of people get it and it usually goes away after a week, but some people have had it for 10-20+ years.It can be brought on by all sorts of shit, psychedelics, anti-histamines, Ritalin, poisoning, but it is very, very rare and usually attributed to a "bad trip" and terrible set and setting.
>>4375498I am guessing the idea was that the chance of an eyewitness to it survivng was very low.I am normally very adverse to conspiracy theories but the official story is fucking retarded. No way he could have just walked in carrying all them weapons. The cosplay story doesn't stack either as he is armed to the teeth with coco the clown hair.
I'm more inclined a kid is playing at trying to be the joker a little too hard, post-shooting.
>>4376468inclined *to believe
>>4376402Not exactlyIt's hardly a full-blown trip feeling, just a thought, a feeling reminiscent of what you experienced then. Mostly visual stuff for me, streetlights pulsing a bit, general static. LSD shouldn't even be called a hallucinogen since all you get is visual geometrical distortions at most. The real hallucinogen is, for example - benzydamine. This shit sends you into a trembling land of fear where wormlike shapes scare the shit out of you and in my case I was left with black smudges in front of my eyes for well over a week after that. Never fucking again
>>4376468how do you dilate your pupils in a well lit room by pretending? that's a cool trickalso the joker acted aware and alert at all times, not drugged and confused
Wasn't it a midnight premier of batman? There were probably a bunch of people in stupid costumes.
>>4376478>LSD shouldn't even be called a hallucinogen since all you get is visual geometrical distortions at most. You didn't do it right.>teenfag did it once and is now an expert.
>>4375454Evidence?Who are the 'insiders'?
>>4376498>Okay, let's bring some logic and information to this thread, paranoid ignorant childs:1. Try to do something into psycho drugs. 1.1 Pain 1.2 Unable to even dress 1.3 Unable to shoot without fear.These things are made with crack/meth/cocain, ask to narcos.2. Dilated pupils are a sign of anxiety.>To the other side1. 6000 rounds???2. Explosive traps in house3. Weapons and armor4. Works on mcdonalds5. A month ago was on ph.D
>>4376583Maybe maphieuse billionards sayin' somethin' to possibru anonssomthin like nigga thou not touch my moneys or look wut happensalso revolution in ur ass, look to the movie, look to their consequences, werk and shutupJust saiyan
Get out of your tinfoil hats pussies, this is fucking 4chinStop thinking that talking is not possible, how many CP threads have you see on your time here? Use your fucking right of freedoom of speech
What are you doin on 4chan appart of losing time?Go derper guys, don't lose control and keep in mind that with speculations the truth will not come, only with investigation.
>>4376868Is it common for a phd student to end up working at mcdonalds? I'm curious as to how he failed out of his phd and ended up working for minimum wage. Drug addiction?
>>4377018it's pretty common for useless fields like the one he was inif he was in med school or engineering, it'd be different
>>4377018Dunno, his university can't reveal his academic results, but I think it's common in USA work in these sites for paying the university bill. Thw thing is that 6000 rounds+ all that shit are not precisely cheap. And I believed that there was a maximum of bullets that a person can afford a month, if that bullets were illegal that would be even more and more moneys.
look, if you don't want to be tracked, you're not normal.http://edition.cnn.com/2012/07/23/tech/social-media/colorado-suspect-social-media/index.html?hpt=hp_The media as expected is feeding their interests. Don't need to conspirate, they use that things when they happen.
>>4377072Yep. Engineeringfag here. Working on nanoelectronics modeling. My research actually pays me and waives tuition.The NSF knows how not to squander their funds on useless research areas like his.
>>4377150>It's impossible, of course, to draw broad conclusions about his mindset based on the fact that he didn't share onlineBut we're going to try!
>neuroscience>uselesswut
>>4377183What if he finally speaks?What if he is killed/an hero?
What's with all mad-genius that committed murders wearing their hair funny? Is it a sign of feeling enlightened and above everyone else?
>>4376583No one, of course.Go back to bed, silly goy
>>4377236When was the last time neuroscience affected you?When was the last time something like developments in nanotransistors affected you? Other than now, as you use your computer, of course.
>>4377266dude on the left was a ramones manager, not a geniusweirdos are weird
>>4377236neuroscience itself isn't uselessthis guys contributions to it were
>>4377300>>4377266>genius>implications over 9000
How is Holmes even a genius? I laugh my ass off when the media mentions his group of "elite researchers". Clearly they don't know how small a research team normally is in graduate school.He was probably a typical nerd no smarter than the average PhD student.
People dress up to go to fan films all the time.Star Wars, The Lord of the Rings, etc.Probably thought he was a loser fan boy.Or.... backpack + tench-coat.
>>4377300>ramones managerlol no, he's phil spector, he produced a ramones albuminvented the wall of sound in music.Rich and highly successful.
>>4377365off thread.Keep on thread please.
>>4377328i wasn't the one who first used the word>>4377365oh, sorryproducer, not manager
>>4377420you're kidding rightthis isn't a fucking neopets forum
This guy seems like 4chan material to me. Does anyone agree?
>>4377595>and he was never heard from again.
Buy ticket and walk in in street clothes.Prop open exit door or place something to stop it from locking.walk to car and suit up.Walk back to exit door that is open and open fire.
>>4377595>Sophisticated killings HHAHHA walks into a movie theather and starts to shoot people dressed in paintball gear. Yeah seams hard man.......
>>4377595>Sophisticated killing spree>Killing 12 people in a movie theater.Oh USA, you so silly.
http://www.infowars.com/colorado-batman-shooting-shows-obvious-signs-of-being-staged/>the comments>oh my sides
>>4377732I'm pretty sure 90% of those comments are from agent provocateurs.
>>4377662Yeah isn't it obvious that that's what he did?I don't understand all the confusion.
>>4377595The dude probably learned to build the bombs online through TOR or somethingas for everything else.. it's America land of the stupid, you could buy body armor and a whole arsenal of weaponry and they'd let you walk home with it and a coupon for more gunsAs for $10,000, well he could've saved up for it
>>4377731How sophisticated do you think the mureens are?
>>4377788I know marines are the few, the proud, the meatshield.But still.
>>4377662Buy ticket and walk in in street clothes.Tell the entire neighborhood to wait behind the door to see a free film.Prop open exit door or place something to stop it from locking.Everyone walks in.Watch free film.Cool.
I am loling hard at all this conspiracy theory nonsense. How did he get 10k? Believe it or not there are still rich people in this nation. He probably had a trust fund or some such shit. How did he get the weapons and armor? Everything he has is legally purchasable from any gunshop. Fuck, you can order body armor on the internet now. How did he HURP A DURP? Some people are just fucking loony. He was probably depressed as fuck because he wasn't getting laid and decided to go out with a bang.
>>4377784i keep reading that he could have just saved up for it, but what seems strange about that is him buying it over a several month timeframe.You don't earn 10,000 dollars of disposable income in 3 months at McDonalds. He was buying parts over a few months of time, which makes no sense if he saved up 10k and could have just bought it all at once.
>implying this case doesn't fit the pattern of every MK Ultra victim's shootingNot that we'll have anything close to definitive evidence within 5 years, of course...
>>4377864Online poker?Overdrawing credit cards?What the fuck is 10k to a man determined to go out in a blaze?
>The most dangerous drug in the world: 'Devil's Breath' chemical from Colombia can block free will, wipe memory and even killScopolamine often blown into faces of victims or added to drinksWithin minutes, victims are like 'zombies' - coherent, but with no free willSome victims report emptying bank accounts to robbers or helping them pillage own houseDrug is made from borrachero tree, which is common in ColombiaRead more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2143584/Scopolamine-Powerful-drug-growing-forests-Colombia-ELIMINATES-free-will.html#ixzz21XrOTHCD
>>4377662you realize they have senors on the doors because of this to keep faggots out who don't pay?People use to do this shit at the theater I would go to and within minutes they'd get kicked out for not paying.
>>4377888no gf
>>4377929Exactly.
>>4377864Probably doesn't know that America is full of retards and they won't do anything if you bought all that at onceOr he didn't have all the money and kept buying it as he saved up
>>4377912holy fuck this is som voodoo shit
he just tried to beat cho's score.what's wrong with you people bringing up conspiracy shits and shits unrelated.
Why wear all that body armor if you were just going to surrender to the police. Also, why the the police about his booby trapped apartment. He could have just let them find it on their own giving it a better chance to blow up
>>4378007How did they know the dude has been planning this for 4 months or so as well?Hasn't he been silent this entire time?I would assume the police would have reason to suspect his apartment would have booty-traps because he had bombs with him at the theater.
>>4377595I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces.
>>4377957Other usesThe use of scopolamine as a truth drug was investigated by various intelligence agencies, including the CIA, during the 1950s. see: Project MKULTRA. It was found that, due to the hallucinogenic side effects of the drug, the truth was prone to distortion, and the project was subsequently abandoned.[citation needed]. Nazi doctor Josef Mengele experimented on scopolamine as an interrogation drug.Scopolamine is used criminally as a date rape drug[citation needed] and as an aid to robbery, the most common act being the clandestine drugging of a victim's drink.[citation needed] Victims of this crime are often admitted to a hospital in police custody, under the assumption that the patient is experiencing a psychotic episode. A telltale sign is a fever accompanied by a lack of sweat.In Colombia a plant admixture containing scopolamine called Burundanga has been used shamanically for decades. In recent years its criminal use (as outlined above) has become an epidemic. Approximately fifty percent of emergency room admissions for poisoning in Bogotá have been attributed to scopolamine. Also in Caracas, Venezuela, crime related to burundanga techniques has multiplied in the last years.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyoscine#Popular_culture
>>4378043Copypasta is stale and it's guerrilla not gorilla.
