Okay so in america guy pulls out a gun in a movie theater and stars shooting everyone.How is it that none of the other americans had guns? Especially in Colorado
God that would have been hilarious. a guy pulls out a gun, everyone also pulls out their guns, a massive shootout ensues, the whole word shakes their head as they mutter to each other "America..."
Theater was a "gun free zone".
EXACTLY!This is what people should be asking themselves!!!@3123@#!$!@41Why didn't anyone stop him?
>>4291934>Implying there are any gun free zones in America
Remember to arm your kids with machine guns when they go to the movies.- America.
>How is it that none of the other americans had guns? Especially in ColoradoColorado is full of granola eating hippies, only the ranchers are armed.
This is actually a very good question, I don't believe there wasn't a single gun nut that would have pulled out this shotgun and blow the shooter awy
Why the fuck do americans go into shooting sprees anyway?I could understand shooting , I dunno, the boss who fired you, the business partner who cheated you... but why the fuck kill random people? It seems retarded
>>4291956
If only there had been someone else with a gun there to stop him. Because nothing is safer than having multiple gunmen in a dark, crowded theater full of panicky people running around.
From the other thread:>The irony is that it's illegal to carry a gun into any place that charges admission.>So even though Colorado is an open carry state with easy to get concealed carry licenses, nobody in that theater could legally have a gun to shoot back with.Well I guess that explains it, now if only this incident could be used to improve guns laws rather than the inevitable tightening of gun laws.
>liberals
Isn't the only gun law in Colorado"Don't point it directly at police officers" ?
>>4291913Colorado is full of Tofu-eating pseudo socialists and niggers within the cities...With any luck the Shooter and most if not all the victims will also be Black.
>>4292033> it's illegal to have a gun in a cinema.> guy with a gun shows up in a cinema.Fail @ security.
Eurofag here.There's never, ever been a shooting in a school or generally public place.People here do not have guns.Criminals here do not usually have guns.Finding guns is not particularly easy.I'm sure guns protect your freedom, but have fun being armed while your wife and teen daughter are being brutally pounded in your home at gunpoint while you're out protecting your freedom carrying a gun.
James Holmes, 24, of North Aurora, was apprehended at the scene clad in a bullet-proof vest and riot helmet.
>>4292093just wait until muslims rape you in front of your wife and daughter.Soon
>>4292093Dunblane massacre
>>4292132I hope you're not implying Europe is one country
>>4292093>People here do not have guns.>Criminals here do not usually have guns.>Finding guns is not particularly easy.This 100%Here in yurop guns are very rare, only in the hands of high-tier criminals, which generally don't bother robbing the plebs
>>4292089>it's illegal to run someone over with a car>someone runs you over with a carfail @ not being in a car 24/7
>>4292148Obviously not.
>>4292093>I'm sure guns protect your freedom, but have fun being armed while your wife and teen daughter are being brutally pounded in your home at gunpoint while you're out protecting your freedom carrying a gun.Please explain how this is any worse than my wife and daughter being raped at knifepoint.And how I have to defend them with a bat instead of a shotgun.
It's pretty sad that you have to carry a gun around in Amerifatland to feel safe.Oh Europe, how glorious art thou.
>>4292169Not only can someone who is unarmed defend himself against an attacker with no firearms, but the lack of firearms strips criminals of the confidence needed to attack an occupied house.
Drudge UpdateSuspect Identified: James Holmes, 24, white, only contact with police was traffic ticket in 2011
>>4292093>>4292158>Here in Europe we there are no mass killings with guns>Mfw
>>4292196Confirmed: Traffic tickets cause gun violence.I'm sure he played video games too.
>>4292206Damn you GTA!!!
>>4292193>Not only can someone who is unarmed defend himself against an attacker with no firearmsWhat if there are multiple attackers? What if they have knives, or clubs?>but the lack of firearms strips criminals of the confidence needed to attack an occupied house.>home invasions do not occur in places with no guns
>>4292193You prefer a police stateHow's that worked out in history?
>>4292205
>>4292196>Whiteyeah about as white as Zimmerman, we aren't seriously doing this again are we......
>>4292205Toulouse massacreJooz did it, right?oh waithave fun with your millions of mustards
>>4291931>Someone starts playing jaunty piano music>People being thrown out flapping saloon doors
>>4292219What if they have body armour?
>>4292225did I upset you in some way?
>>4292249That's why you use an rifle, or a shotgun with slugs.
I love how all the europeasants conveniently forgot the massacre in Norgay. Not to mention the fucking bombing that happened the other day.Europe confirmed for violent shithole.
I love living in Colorado. Shooting happened in Aurora which is chimp-town
>one massacre happens in Europe>for the first time we also have a shooting at a school>meanwhile, Americans have one massacre every 6 months>they call Europe a police state while their kids have to go through metal detectors to enter school/college grounds>their airport security is sexually harassing them and confiscating everything in front of their own eyes>B-B-BUT EUROPE IS A POLICE STATE
>>4292205So that's one in the same timeframe that there have been, what, 20 or so mass shootings in America?
>>4292220The US is a police state.Don't let the facade of democratic processes fool you. It's called 'inverted totalitarianism.' You live in a managed democracy, like in Russia. The powerful dictate who will win, not you. Their money and influence ensures it. And where that fails, the courts, the votecounts, all will be manipulated accordingly. It's how bush won ffs.They let you have guns for a reason. You fucking retards actually believe you're free - that a fucking semi-auto firearm is freedom embodied, never mind all the other freedoms that matter more.Goddamn idiots. Every one of you.
>American shoots people in a cinema>Everyone claps at the end
>>4292318finally, another enlightened shrim user.
>>4292310How about you compare casualties in the same time-frame bud and try not to include shootings by subhuman niggers or spics (which ironically rules this one out).
>>4292205>Norway>EuropeHOLY SHIT AMERICANS CAN'T BE THIS STUPID
If everybody had guns, they could have shot him.
>>4292318
couldn't shoot him. He was Trayvon's cousin and no one wants to be Zimmermaned by the press.
Because life isn't a video game or the wild fucking west. The solution to stopping shit like this isn't to give people more guns. You think that would make these fuckers think twice about their actions? He was wearing a bullet proof vest for christs sake, hell he was probably anticipating a gun fight to make things more exciting.
Europoor have been slaughtering each other for 4,000 yearsdictatorsgenocidesdragged the planet into 2 warsthen claim moral high groundfuck off and die euroscum
>>4292346>Sweden is Europe but Norway isn'tYeah k whatever you reckon bro!
>>4292380So you're saying he WANTED a gun fight?Sounds kinda exciting actually.
God can you imagine if the shooter was a nigger? They'll debate for fucking months about how he is pressued by society into doing this and how the white man brought him down, everyone will be at fault except him. Can you imagine if someone white had shot him and he was black? Another TrayTray "You can't prove that he was planning to shoot people with that gun, you killed him in cold blood"
>>4292380>hurr durr just take it from everyoneThen only criminals will have it dumbass.Just like Drugs, those are illegal. Then how do so many people have drugs?
Yuropoor here.I know one guy with a gun. He had to get a license though and they had to check him up.He got it because some stray dogs near his summer house walked into his yard and killed his dog in front of his family and he was helpless. So now he owns a gun.But he's a reliable family man and in order to get it he had to go through rigorous checking.
>>4292396Because Sweden joined The Euro Union you fucking moron.How can americans be this fucking stupid?
>>4292408Also a few times per year the police come to his home and inspect his good, license and safe, right?
This thread is full of Euromuslims, wanna be Euromuslims self hating Americans and maybe a troll or two. Goddamnit. >America, either there are no gun-free zones or there are more massacres.>Europe, just because bad things happen in the States does not mean that Europe isn't just as much, if not more so of an Orwellian hellhole. Get your shit together and stop pretending like nothing bad is happening across the pond.
>>4292412So Sweden is in Europe then? Yes?It is the "European Union" after all!
>>4291993Actually you have the gun to defend yourself. You can defend others but you can't make a mistake. Conceal carry doesn't make you a policeman. If you shoot an innocent by mistake, you don't have the degree of immunity that law enforcement has. You can't just think you know who the bad buy is. You must know or feel like you are personally in danger. But it is funny the anti-first amendment jackasses never cite the gun violence in Chicago. Oh that's right, you already can't carry a gun there and the murder rate is higher than a war zone.
>>4292423>Europe, just because bad things happen in the States does not mean that Europe isn't just as much, if not more so of an Orwellian hellhole. Get your shit together and stop pretending like nothing bad is happening across the pond.The only bad things happening here are Jews and Muslims fucking each other, I think the whole European continent has less murders than America in a year.
>>4292419ausfaila bro hereThey do that shit>when there is a shooting>whenever they feel like it
>>4292430>>4292430Are you straight up mentally retarded?
Colorado man here.Contrary to popular belief of us being considered another Texas like state, were pretty pop culture enveloped.That's why no one had fire arms to stop him, most people don't even know what a concealed weapons license is, it's pretty sad. This is just a unplanned excuse to get more control on guns and expand police force.
>>4292412>>4292430>remember, kids! Norway is European if it supports my argument, and it isn't European if it doesn't!
>>4292457>Sweden is in Europe but Norway isn'tEase up with the Ad hominem, is this your actual opinion?
>>4292193Which is why they make sure nobody is at home before robbing you. either way you are fucked.
>>4292480>>4292481http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/de/EU_Globe_No_Borders.svgHere's a map of Europe for you faggots.And I never seen anyone on this board say that Norway is in the Yurop, if they did, they were probably Americans
Inb4 he did it because of videogamesrockmusicrighttobeararmsracismislamWONT SOMEONE PLEASE BAN SOME SHIT ALREADY GODDAMMIT QUICK BEFORE SOMEONE ELSE DOES IT. I MUST HAVE BANS
>>4292493That's the European Union, you doltEU =/= Europe.http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/de/Europe_orthographic_Caucasus_Urals_boundary.svg
The right to bear arms. Proof that America is a shittily managed and founded country.
>>4292493According to that map Switzerland isn't in Europe either, you're a turkey mate!
Let's think about this logically for a second, guys. Even if you did have a gun>Crowded theater>Smoke>People running everywhere in panicYou wouldn't seriously consider firing a weapon in those conditions, would you?
Enjoy your metal detectors and pat-downs before entering cinemas now, Americans.And you call Britain bad for having CCTV cameras everywhere. I'd rather some bored CCTV operative watch me walking round town than get executed in the cinema because any retard with a roll of notes can buy a fucking arsenal.
>>4292547Follow the muzzle flashes, in order for him to wound that many he must have been going at it for a while.
>>4292569This is why people don't respect the gun nuts. You aren't going to be a fucking cowboy and shoot the people with a blind goddamn shot. Fuck.
>>4292547Theaters are angled down, we can see him just find if your standing.
>>4292592Yeah and everyone else is going to remain calmly in their seats while this friendly exchange of crossfire happens.
What the hell to you do in a situation like this?Do you flee towards the exist?Or do you hide under a corpse/chair?
>>4292547The public carrying guns are usually just to scare off would-be assailants. Having a gun doesn't turn you into Dirty Harry, I imagine seeing someone get their head streamlined right in front of you would be pretty fucked up.It's easy to whip it out and look scary when some punk has a knife, but to actually now how to operate in a firefight when the other guy is already shooting is a different world. Certainly not the world of some fat fuck who shoots at paper targets every other saturday and thinks he's Deadpool.
>>4292569He was wearing a vest and there's bad visibility. You would risk hitting other people so you could fire blindly at muzzle flashes? Never mind the fact you could be mistaken for a second shooter and cause even more chaos.
>>4292569In a dark room with a loud as fuck action film playing behind him and a hundred or so people running in every direction?Enjoy your prison sentence for manslaughter fucking outright stupidity.
>cosplaying faggot wearing Joker face begins shooting up the Batman movie>another faggot cosplaying as The Punisher stands up, pulls out a revolver and headshots the Joker with one neat shotALL PRAISE THE BASED PUNISHER
>>4292605half of everything is luck.in this case i think hiding would have been better since apparently people were getting stuck at the door.
>>4292605basically ducking, playing dead, and hoping the assailant doesn't come over to your area and double tap.Also, just to mention, this happened during a big gun fight in the movie, so there's some disorientation too.
>>4292659and the other half?
>>4292653Even in fantasies, Marvel beats DC
>>4292628>>4292649>>4292591I'm not saying blindly shoot towards the flashes, I literally mean follow the flashes! Follow them until you are right on top of him then BAM! Provided of course he doesn't shoot you first - hopefully he'll be too distracted trying to get all the cats running for the door.
>>4292709... fate.
>>4292611I fully understand. I'm pro-guns but I'm also pro-logic. My only concern is one of those clowns who think they'll just go operator on the shooter's ass would get caught up in the adrenaline and the panic of the moment and behave even more idiotically than they would while at their computers with a calm mind.
>>4292158>>4292093except school shootings in germany.
I find this whole shit to be stupid.
>>4292735You could do that if you're suicidal, but apparently the shooter was using teargas and not just regular smoke, so that almost certainly wouldn't work.
Corporations can ban guns on their premises.
As a European living in America, I guarantee you issues like this would be reduced or even eliminated by tightening gun laws.
>>4292709Fate.https://twitter.com/jessicaredfieldhttp://jessicaredfield.wordpress.com/2012/06/05/late-night-thoughts-on-the-eaton-center-shooting/>I can’t get this odd feeling out of my chest. This empty, almost sickening feeling won’t go away. I noticed this feeling when I was in the Eaton Center in Toronto just seconds before someone opened fire in the food court. An odd feeling which led me to go outside and unknowingly out of harm‘s way. It’s hard for me to wrap my mind around how a weird feeling saved me from being in the middle of a deadly shooting.>Girl narrowly avoids Toronto shooting only to be killed in a movie theater shooting.
what the fuck is wrong with you fucks? the guy just followed his american dream and stand up for his ideals and priorities!
>>4292611I would just like to mention in passing that you are an imbecile and a liar, no big deal. Colorado must be full of sheep and limp-wrists like you. This is what happens when low-life scum try that krap in Florida:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2175170/Harrowing-moment-elderly-internet-cafe-goer-guns-robbers-chases-door.html.
>>4291931Lol, it would be in like that old xbox ad where everyone shoots eachother with hand-guns.
>>4292825And as another european immigrant to america you can go fuck yourself.I own 6 guns, all for hunting purposes, no harm done with them, and you're telling me they should crack down on my gun rights?
>>4292842Link didn't work but I think this is what you were linking anyway.http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=428_1342491285&comments=1
>>4292836Girl confirmed to be assassination target?
Gunfag logicYOUR KID SHOULD HAVE A GUN WHEN HE GOES TO DAYCARE OTHERWISE YOURE ASKING TO BE A VICTIM. DONT BLAME THE CRIMINALS, BLAME THE VICTIMS.GUNFAG LOGIC
>>4292839Oh man, if I had a picture that would represent the absolute apex in the quality of strawman construction, I would choose that one. And your comment that went along with it wasn't too shabby either.
>if we outlaw guns, only criminals will have access to them!>as long as guns are legal, people can defend themselves!>number of killing sprees that failed because citizens shot back: 0 >number of killing sprees that were only possible because every insane fuck can get a gun: most of them
Blame the videogames.
>>4292881>you can see their bloodstainsBut holy fuck was that dude a bad shot. There was one thing I learned in self defense class if you had a gun, never shoot to injure.ALWAYS shoot to kill.
>>4292932Is it national fallacy day today? Or maybe it's national "I have no evidence for any of my statements" week,
>>4292842>>4292881>Hold-up in an internet cafe>Shooting in a crowded theater with teargasYes, these situations are clearly alike.
>guy in theatre tweets a bad review of the movie so far>Nolan fan walks in and kills everyoneThis seems like the most logical chain of events based on the Rotten Tomatoes comments.
>>4292933THIS!!!!!!!!
>>4292947In his defense I think he only had a pea shooter.
>>4292947Did your self-defense training cover going on a shooting spree on darkened movie theater?
>>4292932>>number of killing sprees that failed because citizens shot back: 0 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appalachian_School_of_Law_shootingWhat?
>>4292906i wounder why he havent used the fucking machine gun. also standing up for own ideas against the liberal scum around him
>>4292962Theres always a chance, all that old guy had was a little pea shooter and the assailants shat themselves.If 2 or 3 or 5 cinema goers had been carrying, surely one of them would have taken him out and SAVED SOME LIVES!
>>4292976But he only seemed to get them in the waist area, and only 3 shots connected, he needed to aim more near the robbers' upper chest/upper back.>>4292986No, but he was an ex cop. Cool guy, too, just old as fuck. Pretty much what he said is that "IF they're still alive, they're either going to:A: run awayorB: try and get you back"and a 50/50 chance isn't a good enough chance."Same things cops are taught.
He showed up with a fucking rifle, how the hell did he walk in with a fucking rifle and nobody saw him?Also, I've yet to hear of a single case someone stops a shooting spree because they had a gun themselves. If anything, either nobody has a gun to stop the shooter with....What is this the second shooting spree in two weeks?Fuck yea, America! Right!?...>idiots
>>4293010>having a gunfight in a crowded theater would save lives. Gunfag logic.
>>4293005Oh Breivik, how I long for you.
>>4293010It would be just as likely that they would have shot at random people.It is a fucking stuffed movie theater with teargas, I don't think it is the easiest place to find and neutralize a target if you are not sitting right next to him.
>>4293027Better than a blind massacre. They really just need more cops patrolling the mall and make sure they're equipped VERY well.
>>4293062>false choiceObviously it's either a massacre or a bloodbath, there are no other options, like say, keeping the weapons away from the crazy fucks in the first place.
Interesting this comes just a week prior to the President signing the UN small arms treaty.
>>4292989>According to Bridges: at the first sound of gunfire, he and fellow student Mikael Gross...>Mikael Gross, a police officer...>Bridges, a county sheriff's deputy...While a police man is indeed a citizen, I assume he didn't include police officers in his definition of citizens. They stop plenty of crimes.
>>4293005>mfw when "bring your gun to new Batman premiere" facebook flash mob
>>4293049>>4293027He was obviously going at it for a long time, 50 injured!It wouldn't be that hard to pick a chance (preferable when he's reloading) to pop him once with your .460!
So how do we deal with all of these recent gun crimes?I, propose, we ban all handguns and semi automatic, non bolt action rifles.
Oh god, am I gonna get groped by security when I watch TDKR in a few hours?
>>4293183
>>4292093>There's never, ever been a shooting in a school or generally public place.Bull fuckin' shit.- Northern Ireland, from the '60s to the '90s. Many instances – ironically, they still have some of the most lax gun laws in Europe (open carry is legal, handguns still legal, self-defence still a legitimate reason to get a gun license)- Norwegian shootings; how did you forget about this one?- Cumbria (UK) shootings- Hungerford massacre (UK again)- Dunblane (UK) school shootingsNeed I go on? There are civilian-perpetrated shootings in Europe.
what's that saying? i'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6?
>>4292932No one can stop shooting sprees (period). You CAN however, prevent them from becoming any worse, and while every insane fuck that wants to go on a shooting spree will still have access to guns, those whom seek to keep those insane fucks from unloading 60 rounds, instead of "only" 30, will be unable.Get your head out of your jidf
>>4293183Then what the fuck would we do with all the people who own semi-automatic shotguns and rifles? And what about those with handguns?
>>4293220Don't worry we already debunked that bloke, if he saw your posts he would proceed to inform you that all the places you mentioned are "not Europe".He's that kinda guy!
In London alone - over the May Bank Holiday weekend (27-29th May 06) - Police recorded over 50 knife attacks
>>4293183Funny you should bring that up, Jew!http://www.un.org/disarmament/convarms/SALW/It isn't like this was all planned from the get go to rally support for this sort of horseshit
if other people had guns they'd probably just end up killing other innocent people rather than the shooterthen when the police show up they won't know who the original shooter is so they'll kill the people with guns who weren't the original shooterguns are a bad idea
>>4293255Take the weapons away and give them some money as compensation.
>>4293317>>4293317>if other people had guns they'd probably just end up killing other innocent people rather than the shooterI-I- what?Have you never fucking shot a gun before?
>>4291952The only gun-free zones in America are government buildings and places that serve alcohol.
>>4293402And corporations who say they don't want guns on their premises.
Check out what the nogunz are saying about this, predictable as it is retardedhttp://britfa.gs/b/res/309041.html
>>4293416It's not illegal, though - you can get fired, but not illegal.
>>4293434Civilians themselves can't bring their firearms in, either.
>>4293434you do realize corporations can be things other than office buildings, right?
>>4293388Generally I would agree with you but this was a special case. A crowded movie theater, teargas, general panic. Hardly the best place for sharpshooting.The spreeshooters will find the means, guntotting rednecks aren't going to stop them. If the guns become too difficult to use they move on to bombs and the only thing left is bunch of triggerhappy idiots and loads of gun related accidents.
> live in a yuropean country> nobody has a gun to defend against armed attackers> there are no armed attackers.Feels good man.
