>Mandate ruled unconstitutional (might survive as a tax)>Stolen Valor act struck downold thread: >>3882290
what happen
>>3885576http://www.scotusblog.com/cover-it-live/
C-Span reports mandate is constitutional
>>3885576>Amy Howe: The Medicaid provision is limited but not invalidated. what does this mean?
hahaha can't believe they upheld it
AHAHAHAHAHA WE MANDATE NOWSUCK IT /POL/USA USA USA USA USA
>>3885597You can read the opinion for yourself when it's officially released, probably going to be a couple minutes. The reporters are typing as fast as they can
>>3885590it could be up-held as a tax, or so the rumor goes
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oh god i can't wait to see those foxnews tears
>The bottom line: the entire ACA is upheld, with the exception that the federal government's power to terminate states' Medicaid funds is narrowly read.
cnn says they struck it down
can't wait to watch rachel maddow cry tonight
>>3885639It was already a tax. What did you think it was? Did you think Feds were going to kick in your door or something?
Tom: Chief Justice Roberts' vote saved the ACA.
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>Medicaid, free health care shut down>Forced health insurance upheldAmerica, why u makan the poor more poor.
>>3885690Jesus, Roberts, can you suck the Executive Branch's cock any deeper?
>>3885639what does this mean?so it'd be like medicare or social security?
ROBERTS VOTES WITH LIBERALSLET ME TASTE YOUR TEARS /POL/
>CNN>Mandate struck down>Whole bill upheld>reading things before putting foot in mouth
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This is fucking ridiculous. I'm voting for Romney to repeal all this bullshit.
The entire ACA was upheld except for the govt.'s power to terminate state's medicaid funds, which is limited5 - 4, Roberts deciding vote. Kennedy goes with the GoPers
Fox news live stream:Woman on the side: "And to the IRS, I am not going to comply with this unconstitutional tax! You might as well come and get me now, because I'm not going to pay!"
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>>3885748>>3885748>>3885748lol good luck with that cuntservatard
>>3885751Gotta love it.
>>3885751lel, I guess she knows the constitution better.>mandate to buy muskets>mandate for sailors to buy healthcare>Wickard v. Filburn>Taxing power, not a find
>America>telling it's people what to do but not the states since 1776
inb4 deluge of republican tears
>>3885748>Pony PictureHarsh, are you also that crossdressing conservative with pictures of Reagan (god rest his soul)
Roberts is a backstabbing traitor. This will stir up the Romney base like crazy.
>>3885797>>3885751 Amy Howe: The court reinforces that individuals can simply refuse to pay the tax and not comply with the mandate.
>Implying Obama didnt load the courts>Implying this isn't judicial activism>implying freedom didnt die today
>>3885824>refusing to do your duties as a citizen
>>3885810>>3885810ha they haven't reported it yet, hahahahaha
>>3885834>Implying Obama didnt load the courtsNigga, please.Give it up.
>>3885834>chief justice appointed by a republican president
>>3885834>loading the courtsEvery president does that you idiot. It's their constitutional right.
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wait wait, so , if a state decides it doesn't want to expand medicare the government cannot force that state off medicare completely. So there are no ramifications for not following the healthcare law. 10/10 lawyers write amazing laws.
>4 Amy Howe: Another way to think about Medicaid: the Constitution requires that states have a choice about whether to participate in the expansion of eligibility; if they decide not to, they can continue to receive funds for the rest of the program. LOL
>>3885834>Implying Obama replaced any conservative Justices
>The position causing the most controversy, however, is the statement that they oppose the teaching of "higher order thinking skills" -- a curriculum which strives to encourage critical thinking -- arguing that it might challenge "student's fixed beliefs" and undermine "parental authority." >only rich republicons should be able to read, write and understand legal rulings
>>3885824That's wrong.People can simply pay the tax and not comply with the mandate.
>>3885824>Tom: Apologies - you can't refuse to pay the tax; typo. The only effect of not complying with the mandate is that you pay the tax.
>>3885871they will find some other way to force them, they just can't cut existing medicaid funding
>>3885824Tom: Apologies - you can't refuse to pay the tax; typo. The only effect of not complying with the mandate is that you pay the tax.
Whur muh free healf care at?
>The only effect of not complying with the mandate is that you pay the tax. NO FUCKING SHIT.I can't believe this was even the central point of the opposition's argument. It's so fallacious I can't believe it.
>>3885834>Implying Obama didnt load the courtsPlease, nigger. Even Democratic appointees are one a steady march to the right as time goes on.
>>3885861No it isn't you fucking idiot. Obama fucking loaded the courts so he could push this garbage through.And this is the most blatant act of judicial activism since Brown v. Board. Law scholars are going to look back at this decision in 100 years and wonder what the fuck the courts were thinking.Enjoy your hollow victory, libtard.
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It's a tax.
Obama's Republic of Hitlerstan begins NOW
>>3885840Tom: Apologies - you can't refuse to pay the tax; typo. The only effect of not complying with the mandate is that you pay the tax.
Everyone on the Fox livesteam is bitching about how "THIS IS STILL BAD BECAUSE OBAMA LIED ABOUT IT BEING A TAX. HE SAID IT WASN'T A TAX, BUT THE SUPREME COURT SAYS IT IS. ROMNEY 2012!"
>>3885912>Chief Justice Roberts, appointed by W., was the saving vote>Chief Justice Roberts, appointed by W., was the saving vote>Chief Justice Roberts, appointed by W., was the saving vote>Chief Justice Roberts, appointed by W., was the saving vote>Chief Justice Roberts, appointed by W., was the saving vote>Chief Justice Roberts, appointed by W., was the saving vote>Chief Justice Roberts, appointed by W., was the saving vote>Chief Justice Roberts, appointed by W., was the saving vote>Chief Justice Roberts, appointed by W., was the saving vote>Chief Justice Roberts, appointed by W., was the saving vote>Chief Justice Roberts, appointed by W., was the saving vote>Chief Justice Roberts, appointed by W., was the saving vote>Chief Justice Roberts, appointed by W., was the saving vote
there are no republican or democrat justices, they have no political accountability whatsoever, they can vote however they want for their own reasons
Fox News:Let's call it a tax now.Most bizarre tax in history
>>3885925>he's only replaced one judge>of which the the one that voted in favor isn't moderate or liberal
>>3885950Link?I want a fair and balanced perspective on this.
>>3885925>conservative majority>only 2 obama appointees>most lower court appointees blocked by GoP>several conservative lower courts upheld mandate>OBAMA STACKED THE COURTS!It's a tax that affects people that don't have healthcare. It's what it always was before the idiots in the media latched on to the "mandate"
Amy Howe: The Court holds that the mandate violates the Commerce Clause, but that doesn't matter b/c there are five votes for the mandate to be constitutional under the taxing power.
>>3885852>Implying Bush was any more Republican than Obama.
>>3885925>>3885925>>3885925>>3885925>>3885925>>3885925>>3885925>>3885925>>3885925>>5 republican judges>>4 democrat judges>>Obama stacked the deck>>Not knowing how to countSHIGGITY DIGGITY MOTHER FUCKER, SHIGGITY DIGGITY LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
>>3885925>And this is the most blatant act of judicial activism since Brown v. Board. Law scholars are going to look back at this decision in 100 years and wonder what the fuck the courts were thinking.>ignoring Citizens United>Most blatant example of judicial activism>Court tells people to come back later with a broader case so the Court can make a broader, more sweeping decision.>typical blind conservative ignoring the obvious.
>>3886003>dat denialY'all weren't saying that after Bush got reelected.
>>3885840the constitution provides no provision for taxing income, my duties include abiding by laws that abide by the constitution and defending the country from all enemies foreign and domestic. none of that involves paying whatever extortions some politician in a distant capital can come up with to fund his pet projects. you want my freedom, come and take it you tyrannical piece of shit.
What I don't understand is this. Do people without any income have to pay a tax if they don't buy health insurance?
Who can't wait for the House to strike this shit down? It's going to be glorious to see Boehner rip this shitty bill a new asshole.
>>3886041they don't
>>3885993And IIRC one of his appointees wasn't allowed to vote right?Also: Fox, man yelling: "THIS IS THE LARGEST TAX INCREASE ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE IN HISTORY. THIS IS WHAT THE BILL IS ABOUT."People still yelling about Obama lying. People yelling about Roberts being owned by special interests.
didn't obama say the health care law wasn't going to raise taxes?
>>3886005you know that this will help ensure Obama doesn't get re-elected, because the conservatives are now going to be galvanized beyond belief to vote, right?
>>3886046implying Boehner isn't the most incompetent and ineffective speaker in modern history
>>3886026>he still hasn't read the citizens united decisionIt's okay bro, no one expects you to be informed before spewing retarded vitriol.
>>3886041If you can't afford health care you don't get penalized for it.
>>3886041Yes they do. This is a massive blow to the American working and middle class.
>>3885925You don't think it's a president's right to nominate justices to the court? You're retarded.
GuysGUYSWhen is Limbaugh's show on today? I'm on the NY/CT border.I have to hear this
>>3886041Low-income earners receive a subsudy for healthcare, or are covered by medicaid.So, yes or no. Depends on how poor we're talking.
>>3886034According to the Supreme Court, there is.Enjoy Mexico.
>>3886069You must have missed the last one.
As a Liberal this is how I'm coping.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGtWssdauME
>>3886041Yes, but you also qualify for medicare just for being poor now. So you would have to also not sign up for medicare to have to pay the tax.
>>3886041No. If you have no, or very little, income, you are covered under medicaid. At least in theory.
>>3886108Unless your state disagrees.
Feel free to move to Europe. hahahaha
Link to Fox stream?
>>3886148http://video.foxnews.com/video-live-streaming.html?video_id=1155606218001Nothing but lulz
>>3886054>>3886074>>3886090>>3886115ITT: People who have not read the bill.Spoiler: Everyone gets taxed. There is no way to be extempt. You either have health care, or get raped by Big Brother.
